Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX
On 1/17/20 12:05 PM, MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ wrote:
> Hi:
> When I compile a document with the following preamble:
> [...]
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
Hi Manuel,
as Hraban and Thomas mentioned, the module has been deprecated.
The commands \definefallbackfamily, \definefontfamily and \setupbodyfont
are standard ConTeXt commands, they don’t require any module.
> \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [serif] [Old Standard]
> [range={greekandcoptic, greekextended}, force=yes, rscale=auto]
"preset=range:greek" might replace "range={greekandcoptic, greekextended}".
Just in case it helps,
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 03:44:58PM +0100, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Thank you for the clarification!
You’re welcome :-)
> That means, I can mix e.g. {de,agr,ru} but not {de,en}, right?
Exactly. In the latter case, even with both languages marked up, the
mix of two completely different pattern sets is likely to be a disaster
(actually, even the full set of US English patterns contains some later
additions and isn’t completely consistent with itself ...)
> But apparently the combined patterns didn’t work for the OP.
That’s of course a problem, but no insight into that, sorry Manuel.
Best,
Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX
> Am 2020-01-17 um 15:36 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer
> :
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 01:51:42PM +0100, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Just \mainlanguage[es] and \language[agr] (= \agr) where you need it should
>> be enough.
>
> As Thomas said, that shouldn’t be necessary.
>
>> You can’t expect ConTeXt to auto-detect your language, even if that maybe
>> would work for Greek.
>> (My texts are usually in German, thus I have \mainlanguage[de] and use \en
>> or \fr to markup foreign quotes.
>>
>> Correct me if I miss something.
>
> Since the two patterns sets Manuel wants to load use two different
> writing systems, you can mix them without risking bad interactions. It
> effectively means using a pattern set that is the union of the Spanish
> and Ancient Greek patterns, the former are used when hyphenating Spanish
> words without affecting the Greek text, and vice-versa. No language
> detection (or markup) is necessary.
Thank you for the clarification!
That means, I can mix e.g. {de,agr,ru} but not {de,en}, right?
But apparently the combined patterns didn’t work for the OP.
Of course, no MWE to check…
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 01:51:42PM +0100, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Just \mainlanguage[es] and \language[agr] (= \agr) where you need it should > be enough. As Thomas said, that shouldn’t be necessary. > You can’t expect ConTeXt to auto-detect your language, even if that maybe > would work for Greek. > (My texts are usually in German, thus I have \mainlanguage[de] and use \en or > \fr to markup foreign quotes. > > Correct me if I miss something. Since the two patterns sets Manuel wants to load use two different writing systems, you can mix them without risking bad interactions. It effectively means using a pattern set that is the union of the Spanish and Ancient Greek patterns, the former are used when hyphenating Spanish words without affecting the Greek text, and vice-versa. No language detection (or markup) is necessary. Best, Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX
On 17.01.20 12:55, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
I suspect "patterns" understands only one file, as far as I understood the
source, but don’t trust me on this.
When you mark your Greek passages with {\agr ἡ Ἑλληνικὴ γλῶσσα} (or
\language[agr] instead of \agr), you should get the right pattern without that
setup.
No, since the patterns for Spanish and Greek are utf8, they can
co-exist, there's no need to mark the Greek passages.
The module simplefonts is obsolete since 2013.
Yes, that's right.
I get both Spanish and Greek hyphenation in a test file:
\mainlanguage[es]
\setuplanguage[es][patterns={es,agr}]
\setupbodyfont[gentium,11pt]
\starttext
\hyphenatedword{ἄνθρωπος selección}
\stoptext
If this fails for OP, he will have to produce a real example, taking out
irrelevant parts and telling us which version he uses. In the original
example, there was only "..." which of course doesn't hyphenate.
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX
> Am 2020-01-17 um 13:04 schrieb MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ
> :
>
> Thanks very much, but if the module simplefonts is obsolete, What should I
> indicate in the preamble to write with both languages?
Your font setup should be good without trying to load that module (that doesn’t
do anything anymore anyway).
Just \mainlanguage[es] and \language[agr] (= \agr) where you need it should be
enough.
You can’t expect ConTeXt to auto-detect your language, even if that maybe would
work for Greek.
(My texts are usually in German, thus I have \mainlanguage[de] and use \en or
\fr to markup foreign quotes.
Correct me if I miss something.
> When you mark your Greek passages with {\agr ἡ Ἑλληνικὴ γλῶσσα} (or
> \language[agr] instead of \agr), you should get the right pattern without
> that setup.
>
> The module simplefonts is obsolete since 2013.
>
> Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX
> Am 2020-01-17 um 12:05 schrieb MANUEL GONZALEZ SUAREZ
> :
>
> Hi:
> When I compile a document with the following preamble:
>
> \mainlanguage[es]
> %\setuphyphenation[method=traditional]
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
> \setuplanguage[es][patterns={es,agr}]
> \definefallbackfamily [mainface] [serif] [Old Standard]
> [range={greekandcoptic, greekextended}, force=yes, rscale=auto]
> \definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [TeX Gyre Schola]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface,11pt]
I suspect "patterns" understands only one file, as far as I understood the
source, but don’t trust me on this.
When you mark your Greek passages with {\agr ἡ Ἑλληνικὴ γλῶσσα} (or
\language[agr] instead of \agr), you should get the right pattern without that
setup.
The module simplefonts is obsolete since 2013.
Greetlings, Hraban
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[NTG-context] Hyphenation LuaTeX
Hi:
When I compile a document with the following preamble:
\mainlanguage[es]
%\setuphyphenation[method=traditional]
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setuplanguage[es][patterns={es,agr}]
\definefallbackfamily [mainface] [serif] [Old Standard] [range={greekandcoptic,
greekextended}, force=yes, rscale=auto]
\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [TeX Gyre Schola]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,11pt]
\starttext
...
\stoptext
with Context LuaTeX, hyphenation patterns work for Greek, but not for Spanish.
I do the compilation with Mac. Any ideas to solve it?
Thanks
Manuel González.
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