Re: Seeking Hardware Advice for Site to Site VPN

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 18 Jan 2008 at 17:07, Fred Sawyer  wrote:

> I am currently reviewing lower cost hardware solutions for a site to site
> VPN for a remote office. The top contender I see so far would be the
> Sonicwall TZ Series. 
> 
> Any one with hands on time willing to offer up some input on these devices.
> Are they easy to configure? Do they have a stable uptime? 
> 
> Are their any other hardware solutions that I should review? 
> 
> In advance any advice is greatly appreciated! 

I'm using a site-to-site VPN with a pair of IPCop [ http://ipcop.org/ ] boxes 
with absolutely no problems, but my needs are probably less than yours.  You 
install IPCop on an old computer, so if you have two older boxes around that 
you can use, the only hardware cost would be two additional NICs to install in 
the two old computers you use.  The software is GPL and free.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




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RE: OT: Snow Resort in Fort Worth, TX?

[Tom McCarty]

Fort Worth and Snow Resort.  Seems like an oxymoron.  :)
 
I survived several summers there thanks to Tandy in the 80's and 90s.
 
Tom McCarty


  _  

From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Snow Resort in Fort Worth, TX?



Where are they supposed to build this so that you can 'see' the Fort Worth
skyline?!?! From noth of Fort Worth, it would have to be south of the North
820/I-35w interchange. I wouldn't see this near Alliance. And who would want
to see the Fort Worth skyline? Granted there are some nice modern
architecture, but there hasn't been a new building erected there in quite
some time. Oh, well 
 
And layers of polymers?!? Even in the Texas heat it would melt. And how are
you supposed to get that out of you 'winter' clothes? Sounds like it would
be more of a goo when it gets past 95 degrees F. How are they supposed to
keep that from melting? They would have to install a large refrigeration
unit, or several small ones, and put in another reactor at Glenn Rose,
perhaps? That is alot of surface area that they are talking about. 
 
And I survived the Heat Wave of '80, too! 100+ days of the temp over 100
degrees F.
 
Well... let's see what happens.


 
On Jan 18, 2008 10:12 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



A man in the UK invented a snow/ice type substance that doesn't melt! There
are plans to have a huge snow resort in the Alliance area. The website below
has all of the details! 

http://www.bearfireresorts.com/

Hey Kim, can you see snow skiing here in August???  

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."
-Albert Einstein 

































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RE: Sharing Contacts and Calendar between 2 AD forests

[Ken Schaefer]

IIFP (Identity Integration Feature Pack) will do GAL sync, but does it automate 
calendar sharing?

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2008 6:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Sharing Contacts and Calendar between 2 AD forests

Look at MIIS, the free version will do what your want.

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

-Original Message-
From: Ajay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Sharing Contacts and Calendar between 2 AD forests

Hi folks,

Our company with Windows 2003 AD and Exch 2003 is merging with another
one
that has its own similar AD forest and Exchange. At this time we don't
want
to migrate one forest into another. What would be the most
efficient/economical way to share contacts and calendars between the two

companies, assuming it is possible?

I am already studying options presented in this article:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technolog
ies/directory/activedirectory/mtfstwp.mspx
but would like to hear from someone who has actually implemented a
solution.
Thanks.

Jay
So. Pasadena, CA


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Re: OT: Snow Resort in Fort Worth, TX?

[Daniel Rodriguez]

Where are they supposed to build this so that you can 'see' the Fort Worth
skyline?!?! From noth of Fort Worth, it would have to be south of the North
820/I-35w interchange. I wouldn't see this near Alliance. And who would want
to see the Fort Worth skyline? Granted there are some nice modern
architecture, but there hasn't been a new building erected there in quite
some time. Oh, well

And layers of polymers?!? Even in the Texas heat it would melt. And how are
you supposed to get *that* out of you 'winter' clothes? Sounds like it would
be more of a goo when it gets past 95 degrees F. How are they supposed to
keep that from melting? They would have to install a large refrigeration
unit, or several small ones, and put in another reactor at Glenn Rose,
perhaps? That is alot of surface area that they are talking about.

And I survived the Heat Wave of '80, too! 100+ days of the temp over 100
degrees F.

Well... let's see what happens.



On Jan 18, 2008 10:12 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> A man in the UK invented a snow/ice type substance that doesn't melt!
> There are plans to have a huge snow resort in the Alliance area. The website
> below has all of the details!
>
> http://www.bearfireresorts.com/
>
> Hey Kim, can you see snow skiing here in August???
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."
> -Albert Einstein
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: SSL certificates

[Ken Schaefer]

Yeah - WM5 devices are not capable of requesting the entire certificate chain 
if your cert (e.g. from GoDaddy) is signed by an intermediate CA not in the 
device's cert store. I believe that this was added in WM6 (but I'm not 100% 
sure)

Cheers
Ken

From: Rick Corgiat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2008 5:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL certificates


Be sure to investigate whether or not mobile devices will work with the lesser 
know cert providers. I recently had a tough time getting an older Cingular 
phone to work with a GoDaddy cert.

Rick


From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SSL certificates


Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using 
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for renewal, and 
I want to look around at other options, but don't want to get sucked into a bad 
issuing authority.

Joe Heaton





























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Re: OT: Snow Resort in Fort Worth, TX?

[Eric Woodford]

Looking at the developer's website, the snow will actually be layers of
polymer. Interesting, but if you crash do you get rug burns?

http://www.snowflex.com/snowflex.html



On Jan 18, 2008 7:12 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> A man in the UK invented a snow/ice type substance that doesn't melt!
> There are plans to have a huge snow resort in the Alliance area. The website
> below has all of the details!
>
> http://www.bearfireresorts.com/
>
> Hey Kim, can you see snow skiing here in August???
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a persistent one."
> -Albert Einstein
>
>
>
>
>

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Seeking Hardware Advice for Site to Site VPN

[Fred Sawyer]

I am currently reviewing lower cost hardware solutions for a site to site VPN 
for a remote office.  The top contender I see so far would be the Sonicwall TZ 
Series.

Any one with hands on time willing to offer up some input on these devices.  
Are they easy to configure?  Do they have a stable uptime?

Are their any other hardware solutions that I should review?

In advance any advice is greatly appreciated!


Thank you,

Fred Sawyer
727-562-0101 ext 245
Sunbelt Software

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RE: Small IT company software application

[Benjamin Zachary]

How do you get it to scan remotely? Do you bring it on a laptop per se when
you go on site? I use spiceworks to get me a quick rundown of an
environment, but in the office I have no way of detecting what a client's
machines may install or uninstall. If it has an agent, that's okay (in my
scenario). 

 

  _  

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small IT company software application

 

 

(Sorry I got carried away.)

I used to use the inet-sciences tool for my help desk solution, but Ilient
is also free (for up to 3 technicians) and has an inventory function that
automatically tracks when software/hardware is added/changed/removed. Also
has a useful tool where you can track licensing and compare it to what's
actually installed on the machines. VERY nice to see when someone loaded
say, iTunes, etc.

You can assign assets to companies, locations, etc. Very easy to
use/configure. You can install the client piece from a central location -
you can browse your network and see which machines don't have the client
installed, highlight them, and push it out. Has a little VNC tie-in (which
can optionally be pushed with the client) that right from the help desk
ticket you can launch VNC to remote to the PC (I don't use that feature, but
still cool). A shortcut is created on the client PC and when a user clicks
on it automatically assigns the machine name and currently logged in user to
the ticket - the user doesn't even have to "log in" to the app. It also has
a "screenshot" feature if the user clicks it the screen is auto-included in
the helpdesk call (it knows to not screenshot the HelpDesk app). Very cool!
On my Dell machines the client piece even auto-reports the machine type and
Dell s/n in the hardware inventory page, as well as the last time it
connected to the Ilient server. 

Speaking of, it's pretty unobtrusive and the Ilient server takes very little
resources and easily run with on the same box as my combo WSUS/Trend
OfficeScan/Backups server. It could probably run on a Pentuim III desktop.

Like any good help Desk app, it can auto escalate tickets once it becomes a
certain age, can send new ticket notices via SMTP (I have it send a text msg
to my phone), etc etc.

And these are just the features I use. It has additional functionality, and
if you pay licensing it can use a SQL back end, etc.

Really friggin' slick for the price, and very user friendly setup and use,
which is a top priority for me. Killer functionality does me no good if I
need 20 hours to figure it out since I'm not at any one client 20 hours in a
week!

www.ilient.com for Help Desk, and www.ks-soft.net for
hardware/services/event log/connectivity monitoring, WSUS 3.0 for patching.
But that's just for my night job, my day job here @ NWEA uses other
stuff.(TeamTrack / Nagios).

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small IT company software application

 

 

I know theres a lot of free ones. Spiceworks has a nice software mgmt app
but requires domain rights and such, their help desk is simple but nothing
fancy.

For help desk stuff with asset tracking/control I use www.inet-sciences.com
  all web based, includes time/billing
features that can be easily imported/managed by a bookkeeper, and has a
'tiny' version that works well on phones. That made it great for us to be
able to do service tickets in the field. 

It has a client login option for ticketing, and the client can assign an
asset to it. You can set it up in help desk or consulting mode. Consulting
mode carves out the inventory by company, so everyone at company A doesn't
see company B's assets, or tickets.

The software mgmt tool is decent, has like 20 slots + serial #'s but its all
done by hand. Used in conjunction with Spiceworks reports you can cross
reference it to get you going. 

5 user free tech, spiceworks is free so not too bad.

  _  

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Small IT company software application

 

 

Lo chaps,

Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me. I'm
after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients here. We
were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right on paper but
doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support tickets (ie
helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also include asset
management and be able to associate an asset with a companys record, so that
we can see assets belonging to companies. We also have to be able to add a
lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you asso

RE: Small IT company software application

[David Lum]

(Sorry I got carried away...)

I used to use the inet-sciences tool for my help desk solution, but
Ilient is also free (for up to 3 technicians) and has an inventory
function that automatically tracks when software/hardware is
added/changed/removed. Also has a useful tool where you can track
licensing and compare it to what's actually installed on the machines.
VERY nice to see when someone loaded say, iTunes, etc.

You can assign assets to companies, locations, etc. Very easy to
use/configure. You can install the client piece from a central location
- you can browse your network and see which machines don't have the
client installed, highlight them, and push it out. Has a little VNC
tie-in (which can optionally be pushed with the client) that right from
the help desk ticket you can launch VNC to remote to the PC (I don't use
that feature, but still cool). A shortcut is created on the client PC
and when a user clicks on it automatically assigns the machine name and
currently logged in user to the ticket - the user doesn't even have to
"log in" to the app. It also has a "screenshot" feature if the user
clicks it the screen is auto-included in the helpdesk call (it knows to
not screenshot the HelpDesk app). Very cool! On my Dell machines the
client piece even auto-reports the machine type and Dell s/n in the
hardware inventory page, as well as the last time it connected to the
Ilient server. 

Speaking of, it's pretty unobtrusive and the Ilient server takes very
little resources and easily run with on the same box as my combo
WSUS/Trend OfficeScan/Backups server. It could probably run on a Pentuim
III desktop...

Like any good help Desk app, it can auto escalate tickets once it
becomes a certain age, can send new ticket notices via SMTP (I have it
send a text msg to my phone), etc etc.

And these are just the features I use. It has additional functionality,
and if you pay licensing it can use a SQL back end, etc.

Really friggin' slick for the price, and very user friendly setup and
use, which is a top priority for me. Killer functionality does me no
good if I need 20 hours to figure it out since I'm not at any one client
20 hours in a week!

www.ilient.com for Help Desk, and www.ks-soft.net for
hardware/services/event log/connectivity monitoring, WSUS 3.0 for
patching. But that's just for my night job, my day job here @ NWEA uses
other stuff...(TeamTrack / Nagios).

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small IT company software application

 

 

I know theres a lot of free ones. Spiceworks has a nice software mgmt
app but requires domain rights and such, their help desk is simple but
nothing fancy.

For help desk stuff with asset tracking/control I use
www.inet-sciences.com   all web based,
includes time/billing features that can be easily imported/managed by a
bookkeeper, and has a 'tiny' version that works well on phones. That
made it great for us to be able to do service tickets in the field. 

It has a client login option for ticketing, and the client can assign an
asset to it. You can set it up in help desk or consulting mode.
Consulting mode carves out the inventory by company, so everyone at
company A doesn't see company B's assets, or tickets.

The software mgmt tool is decent, has like 20 slots + serial #'s but its
all done by hand. Used in conjunction with Spiceworks reports you can
cross reference it to get you going. 

5 user free tech, spiceworks is free so not too bad.



From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Small IT company software application

 

 

Lo chaps,

Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me.
I'm after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients
here. We were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right
on paper but doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support
tickets (ie helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also
include asset management and be able to associate an asset with a
companys record, so that we can see assets belonging to companies. We
also have to be able to add a lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate
the data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than
an IT company servicing multiple clients.

Any suggestions ?

I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but
I can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution.

 

Olly

 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: office 2007 retail on TS?

[Bob Fronk]

IIRC, retail is treated like a "book".

 

Only one person can read the book at once.  Using a retail version of
office would allow multiple concurrent users, which is not what retail
licensing is for.  So you would need some type of volume license on a
TS.

 

 

Bob Fronk

 

 

 

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: office 2007 retail on TS?

 

 

 

So I try to install this for an admin account on a TS box and am told
that its not licensed correctly. So do I require OLP or something even
though only one user (admin) is going to actually use the software?

 

 The remote users all run an app and never get to the desktop so we are
sure licensing will be okay, just didn't think it wouldn't install at
all J

 

 

 

 





 




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RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

[Tom Strader]

It's the "Dirty South" because so many "Yanks" have come to live down
here now.
 
DOH!!



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs




You know I will go "Dirty South" and whip ya boy :-)

 

Z

 



From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Bring it on, you Rhode Island wuss-boy :-) 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Shon Harris CISSP Prep Guide, ISC official guide to the SSCP CBK, and
Wiley SSCP prep book. I am almost finished with the SSCP prep I just
need to get the Boson tests, whip though them ( Or just go down and whip
SHOOK which would be a lot of fun: even though its TVK's turn this
month) and go sit the test in March or April, then study the rest of the
areas for 3 months and go sit the CISSP. 

 

Z

 



From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 


Are you using any particular resources to prepare for the SSCP and
CISSP?

On Jan 17, 2008 3:21 PM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

SSCP, CISSP, CISM, CISA, GIAC. 

 

SSCP ( More technical), CISSP (Technical and generalistic also), CISM (
If you want to be a security manager, which would be more
administrative), CISA ( When you want to be the one auditing others
security), GIAC ( from SANS, definitely technical) 

 

 

Doing SSCP/CISSP now, and moving away from the trenches to the security
realm. Then looking towards CISM/CISA. 

 

Z

 



From: Manpreet Chaniana [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I need some advise and help in terms of certification and want to know
which IT Security holds value. 

 

Example like SCP, ISC2, CISSP ETC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Manpreet

 

 

 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 


 











 










 
 
 


 











 










 
 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 











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RE: office 2007 retail on TS?

[Benjamin Zachary]

It definitely makes sense they want tighter control on licensing but didn't
think I would have to resort to a corporate version of the product to make
it work. I thought about that though, I could do it, but would prefer
licensing to be correct.

 

Thanks

 

  _  

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: office 2007 retail on TS?

 

 

I ran into this before and what I did was temporarily turn off T/S, install
office, and then turn it back on. That was feasible in my environment, since
it was a test environment, it may not be in yours.

 

Office retail versions are not licensed for T/S installs. Refer to the PUR.
(And it should be contained in the EULA for the retail products as well.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: office 2007 retail on TS?

 

 

 

So I try to install this for an admin account on a TS box and am told that
its not licensed correctly. So do I require OLP or something even though
only one user (admin) is going to actually use the software?

 

 The remote users all run an app and never get to the desktop so we are sure
licensing will be okay, just didn't think it wouldn't install at all :-)

 

 

 

 














 
 


 

 







 


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RE: office 2007 retail on TS?

[Michael B. Smith]

I ran into this before and what I did was temporarily turn off T/S, install
office, and then turn it back on. That was feasible in my environment, since
it was a test environment, it may not be in yours.

 

Office retail versions are not licensed for T/S installs. Refer to the PUR.
(And it should be contained in the EULA for the retail products as well.)

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Benjamin Zachary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: office 2007 retail on TS?

 

 

 

So I try to install this for an admin account on a TS box and am told that
its not licensed correctly. So do I require OLP or something even though
only one user (admin) is going to actually use the software?

 

 The remote users all run an app and never get to the desktop so we are sure
licensing will be okay, just didn't think it wouldn't install at all J

 

 

 

 







 


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office 2007 retail on TS?

[Benjamin Zachary]

 

So I try to install this for an admin account on a TS box and am told that
its not licensed correctly. So do I require OLP or something even though
only one user (admin) is going to actually use the software?

 

 The remote users all run an app and never get to the desktop so we are sure
licensing will be okay, just didn't think it wouldn't install at all :-)

 

 


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RE: Small IT company software application

[Benjamin Zachary]

Oh yah I hear GLPI is pretty good an associate of mine uses it, but hes an
in house tech so I don't know how it works in a consulting environment.



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RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

[Andy Shook]

Dirty South, sounds like Blackstone slang to me...

 

Andy



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

You know I will go "Dirty South" and whip ya boy :-)

 

Z

 



From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Bring it on, you Rhode Island wuss-boy :-) 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Shon Harris CISSP Prep Guide, ISC official guide to the SSCP CBK, and
Wiley SSCP prep book. I am almost finished with the SSCP prep I just
need to get the Boson tests, whip though them ( Or just go down and whip
SHOOK which would be a lot of fun: even though its TVK's turn this
month) and go sit the test in March or April, then study the rest of the
areas for 3 months and go sit the CISSP. 

 

Z

 



From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 


Are you using any particular resources to prepare for the SSCP and
CISSP?

On Jan 17, 2008 3:21 PM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

SSCP, CISSP, CISM, CISA, GIAC. 

 

SSCP ( More technical), CISSP (Technical and generalistic also), CISM (
If you want to be a security manager, which would be more
administrative), CISA ( When you want to be the one auditing others
security), GIAC ( from SANS, definitely technical) 

 

 

Doing SSCP/CISSP now, and moving away from the trenches to the security
realm. Then looking towards CISM/CISA. 

 

Z

 



From: Manpreet Chaniana [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I need some advise and help in terms of certification and want to know
which IT Security holds value. 

 

Example like SCP, ISC2, CISSP ETC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Manpreet

 

 

 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 


 











 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 


 











 










 
 










 










 
 
 
 


 

 










 










 
 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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Re: Small IT company software application

[Kurt Buff]

OCS-NG plus GLPI - find it on sourceforge.

On Jan 18, 2008 6:54 AM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Lo chaps,
>
> Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me. I'm
> after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients here. We
> were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right on paper but
> doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support tickets (ie
> helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also include asset
> management and be able to associate an asset with a companys record, so that
> we can see assets belonging to companies. We also have to be able to add a
> lot of custom fields across the board.
>
> AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate the
> data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than an IT
> company servicing multiple clients.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but I
> can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution.
>
>
>
> Olly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

[Ziots, Edward]

You know I will go "Dirty South" and whip ya boy :-)

 

Z

 



From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Bring it on, you Rhode Island wuss-boy :-) 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Shon Harris CISSP Prep Guide, ISC official guide to the SSCP CBK, and
Wiley SSCP prep book. I am almost finished with the SSCP prep I just
need to get the Boson tests, whip though them ( Or just go down and whip
SHOOK which would be a lot of fun: even though its TVK's turn this
month) and go sit the test in March or April, then study the rest of the
areas for 3 months and go sit the CISSP. 

 

Z

 



From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 


Are you using any particular resources to prepare for the SSCP and
CISSP?

On Jan 17, 2008 3:21 PM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

SSCP, CISSP, CISM, CISA, GIAC. 

 

SSCP ( More technical), CISSP (Technical and generalistic also), CISM (
If you want to be a security manager, which would be more
administrative), CISA ( When you want to be the one auditing others
security), GIAC ( from SANS, definitely technical) 

 

 

Doing SSCP/CISSP now, and moving away from the trenches to the security
realm. Then looking towards CISM/CISA. 

 

Z

 



From: Manpreet Chaniana [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I need some advise and help in terms of certification and want to know
which IT Security holds value. 

 

Example like SCP, ISC2, CISSP ETC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Manpreet

 

 

 
 










 










 
 










 










 
 
 


 











 










 
 
 


 











 










 
 
 


 

 










 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Sharing Contacts and Calendar between 2 AD forests

[Andy Shook]

Look at MIIS, the free version will do what your want. 

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  

-Original Message-
From: Ajay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Sharing Contacts and Calendar between 2 AD forests

Hi folks,

Our company with Windows 2003 AD and Exch 2003 is merging with another
one 
that has its own similar AD forest and Exchange. At this time we don't
want 
to migrate one forest into another. What would be the most 
efficient/economical way to share contacts and calendars between the two

companies, assuming it is possible?

I am already studying options presented in this article:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technolog
ies/directory/activedirectory/mtfstwp.mspx
but would like to hear from someone who has actually implemented a
solution. 
Thanks.

Jay
So. Pasadena, CA


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Sharing Contacts and Calendar between 2 AD forests

[Ajay Kulsh]

Hi folks,

Our company with Windows 2003 AD and Exch 2003 is merging with another one 
that has its own similar AD forest and Exchange. At this time we don't want 
to migrate one forest into another. What would be the most 
efficient/economical way to share contacts and calendars between the two 
companies, assuming it is possible?


I am already studying options presented in this article:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technologies/directory/activedirectory/mtfstwp.mspx
but would like to hear from someone who has actually implemented a solution. 
Thanks.


Jay
So. Pasadena, CA


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RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

[Andy Shook]

Bring it on, you Rhode Island wuss-boy :-) 

 

Shook

http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook  



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Shon Harris CISSP Prep Guide, ISC official guide to the SSCP CBK, and
Wiley SSCP prep book. I am almost finished with the SSCP prep I just
need to get the Boson tests, whip though them ( Or just go down and whip
SHOOK which would be a lot of fun: even though its TVK's turn this
month) and go sit the test in March or April, then study the rest of the
areas for 3 months and go sit the CISSP. 

 

Z

 



From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 


Are you using any particular resources to prepare for the SSCP and
CISSP?

On Jan 17, 2008 3:21 PM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

SSCP, CISSP, CISM, CISA, GIAC. 

 

SSCP ( More technical), CISSP (Technical and generalistic also), CISM (
If you want to be a security manager, which would be more
administrative), CISA ( When you want to be the one auditing others
security), GIAC ( from SANS, definitely technical) 

 

 

Doing SSCP/CISSP now, and moving away from the trenches to the security
realm. Then looking towards CISM/CISA. 

 

Z

 



From: Manpreet Chaniana [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I need some advise and help in terms of certification and want to know
which IT Security holds value. 

 

Example like SCP, ISC2, CISSP ETC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Manpreet

 

 

 
 










 










 
 


 











 
 


 











 
 


 

 





 


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RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

[Ziots, Edward]

Shon Harris CISSP Prep Guide, ISC official guide to the SSCP CBK, and
Wiley SSCP prep book. I am almost finished with the SSCP prep I just
need to get the Boson tests, whip though them ( Or just go down and whip
SHOOK which would be a lot of fun: even though its TVK's turn this
month) and go sit the test in March or April, then study the rest of the
areas for 3 months and go sit the CISSP. 

 

Z

 



From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 


Are you using any particular resources to prepare for the SSCP and
CISSP?

On Jan 17, 2008 3:21 PM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

SSCP, CISSP, CISM, CISA, GIAC. 

 

SSCP ( More technical), CISSP (Technical and generalistic also), CISM (
If you want to be a security manager, which would be more
administrative), CISA ( When you want to be the one auditing others
security), GIAC ( from SANS, definitely technical) 

 

 

Doing SSCP/CISSP now, and moving away from the trenches to the security
realm. Then looking towards CISM/CISA. 

 

Z

 



From: Manpreet Chaniana [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I need some advise and help in terms of certification and want to know
which IT Security holds value. 

 

Example like SCP, ISC2, CISSP ETC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Manpreet

 

 

 
 










 


 






 


 






 


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RE: Disable Wirless if Ethernet has a connection

[Mike Gill]

Amen.

-- 
Mike Gill

> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:36 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Disable Wirless if Ethernet has a connection
> 
> Heh.
> 
> If Outlook quoting wasn't so lame, I'd bottom post
> 
> Cheers
> Ken



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RE: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

[Ziots, Edward]

Shon Harris books and the CBK is what I am using definitely the
definitive resource for the CISSP cert. 

 

Z

 



From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 


Thanks!  I'll take a look at those.

On Jan 17, 2008 4:51 PM, Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

This is the book that was recommended to me and I purchased last week:
http://www.amazon.com/CISSP-Certification-All-One-Guide/dp/0071497870/re
f=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200606449&sr=8-1

 

This is what my colleagues used to get there cert:

http://www.amazon.com/International-Information-Security-Certification-C
onsortium/dp/0536108293/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1200606524&sr=11-1

 

Watch wrapping...

 

Rick

 



From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 4:23 PM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 


Are you using any particular resources to prepare for the SSCP and
CISSP?

On Jan 17, 2008 3:21 PM, Ziots, Edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

SSCP, CISSP, CISM, CISA, GIAC. 

 

SSCP ( More technical), CISSP (Technical and generalistic also),
CISM ( If you want to be a security manager, which would be more
administrative), CISA ( When you want to be the one auditing others
security), GIAC ( from SANS, definitely technical) 

 

 

Doing SSCP/CISSP now, and moving away from the trenches to the
security realm. Then looking towards CISM/CISA. 

 

Z

 





From: Manpreet Chaniana [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Advise required in terms of IT Security certs

 

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I need some advise and help in terms of certification and want
to know which IT Security holds value. 

 

Example like SCP, ISC2, CISSP ETC

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Manpreet

 

 

 
 
 










 


 






 


 






 


 






 


 






 


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RE: SSL certificates

[Joe Heaton]

It's the name recognition, not necessarily the reputation.  I just don't like 
the idea of having to pay $200 per year per cert more than going with another 
company, like Thawte.  Which is why I was asking here.  

Joe Heaton
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL certificates

What reputation is that, there poor customer service, bad business practices, 
or general arrogance that makes them so distasteful to deal with.


-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL certificates

I've used http://www.certificatesforexchange.com/ for an SSL cert for OWA.  
Just as good as the big guys and cheap!  Also purchased one through Godaddy.com 
a couple years ago - same authority, I think.

For online business transactions, however, I'd stick with Verisign, Thawte, or 
Geotrust for their recognition and reputation.


Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 
Artificial Intelligence:  Making computers behave like they do in the movies. 
  
  
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: SSL certificates 
  
  
Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using 
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for renewal, and 
I want to look around at other options, but don't want to get sucked into a bad 
issuing authority.
  
Joe Heaton 
AISA 
Employment Training Panel 
1100 J Street, 4th Floor 
Sacramento, CA  95814 
(916) 327-5276 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  



  
    

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RE: Small IT company software application

[David Lum]

Check out Ilient SysAid.

http://www.ilient.com/

 

Dave Lum  - Systems Engineer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025
"When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands" 

 

 

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small IT company software application

 

 

That does the help desk but not the asset management. What i'm really
after is something that will allow an external company to manage assets
and calls from many other client companies.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 January 2008 15:07
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Small IT company software application

 



AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus is for internal use. I think you want
AdventNet SupportCenter.

 

"Oliver Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

01/18/2008 09:54 AM 

Please respond to
"NT System Admin Issues" 

To

"NT System Admin Issues"  

cc


Subject

Small IT company software application

 



 

Lo chaps, 

Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me.
I'm after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients
here. We were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right
on paper but doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support
tickets (ie helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also
include asset management and be able to associate an asset with a
companys record, so that we can see assets belonging to companies. We
also have to be able to add a lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate
the data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than
an IT company servicing multiple clients. 

Any suggestions ? 

I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but
I can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution. 

  

Olly 






   
















 
 


 

 





 


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OT: SSL and SharePoint Services 3

[Bill Lambert]

Hello all...

 

While we're on the topic of SSL certs, I have an OT question...heh

 

I'm a newbie to SharePoint Services 3 (no SharePoint server, just SPS 3)
and have an instance set up on a test box.  I'm experimenting with
allowing access to it from the Internet and have installed an SSL cert
on it.  Now some of the objects return an IE error page when you click
on them saying 'This page must be viewed on a secure channel".  Seems
that the HTTP prefix is on these objects instead of HTTPS.  I've been
searching for the last two days for a solution including SharePoint
blogs, forums, etc and haven't received any responses.  I'm hoping some
of you folks have advice/links/help you can lend.

 

Apologies for the OT 

 

Bill Lambert

Windows System Administrator

Concuity

A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc.  

Phone  847-941-9206

Fax  847-465-9147

 

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RE: event log management

[Christopher Boggs]

Sorry to dig up old threads, but I just put OSSEC HIDS on one of our
linux FTP servers that sits out in the DMZ.  

Installation was easy as pie, it pretty much configured itself...  I
didn't run into any problems even though it's an older Redhat box.

Main usage is to block SSH and FTP brute force attacks, which I was
using DenyHosts for previously.  DenyHosts worked great for SSH (and
I've recently read about SSH DoS vulnerabilities with it, so I'm glad
I've dumped it) but even with help from the creator of DenyHosts, I
couldn't get it to detect and block FTP login failures using the custom
regex features.

Honestly, I haven't even scratched the surface of the abilities of OSSEC
HIDS with what I need it for, as I've just done a 'local' installtion on
one linux box, but I'll be testing other features soon.

cb


-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: event log management


FWIW our auditors suggested that one. I couldn't remember the name or I
would have spoken up sooner.


> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:42 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: event log management
> 
> On that note, I just remembered about OSSEC - it's an open source
> HIDS, using logs and such to monitor systems.
> 
> I'll be looking into it soon, as I think it has lots of potential.
> 
> On Dec 11, 2007 10:03 AM, Bill Songstad (WCUL)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > They say it is to be another level of intrusion detection.  I think
I
> may be
> > able to get away with just servers, routers and firewalls though.
But
> since
> > I have to find something, I might as well try to find what they
want.
> >
> >
> >
> > Somehow I get the feeling though, that many people are paying little
> more
> > attention to their logs than they were before they implemented a log
> > management solution.  There are times that I remember from the past
> where
> > having a log alert could have saved me a lot of pain, especially in
> the case
> > of dieing disks. Or failed services...  So as much as I don't enjoy
> finding a
> > solution, I expect to get a certain amount of value from it.  what I
> don't
> > want to do is purchase some monster to please the auditors, when
some
> > smaller program provides the same effective functionality.  If
people
> aren't
> > realizing an IDS value from their solutions, why would I want a
> solution
> > that boasts great IDS capability?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Songstad
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >  From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:41 AM
> >  To: NT System Admin Issues
> >  Subject: RE: event log management
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There was one on sourceforge I saw a few months ago that I cant find
> for the
> > life of me (not Nagios). I do use Snare for some of my servers.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do they really want you to monitor event logs of workstations too?
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Bill Songstad (WCUL) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 5:26 PM
> >  To: NT System Admin Issues
> >  Subject: event log management
> >
> >
> >
> > My auditors are whining like, well, like whining auditors, about my
> log
> > management and reporting strategy.  You see, currently I look to the
> logs
> > after something goes wrong.  Apparently, they want me to monitor all
> the
> > logs on my workstations, servers and network devices 24-7-365 and
use
> that
> > endless stream of mind numbing data to predict when something bad is
> about
> > to happen.  Apparently that way I can answer my phone and respond to
> an
> > emergency only a few minutes after it has crippled my systems,
rather
> than
> > sleeping through the night to deal with the crippled system in the
> morning
> > after a good night's sleep.  But I digress...
> >
> >
> >
> > I doubt that many of you are telling the future with your log
> management
> > solutions, but I'm interested to know if there are any log
management
> > products or services that are leaving a particularly memorable taste
> in
> > anybody's mouth.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Songstad

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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Phillip Partipilo]

ding ding ding. keep users out of administrator groups. Mitigates spyware
massively.
 
 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
 

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From: Eric E Eskam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/18/2008 08:40:25 AM:

> Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of 
> others on this 
> list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or 
> spyware (which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)? 

Users with admin privs, followed by not patching on a timely schedule (and
auditing your patch operation to find machines where the patches didn't
install!). 

Seriously, those are the biggest threats.  It's like trying to put the smoke
back in a log after you burn it. 

It's much easier to keep stuff off the machines in the first place then
trying to detect infections.  Detection is a loosing proposition - the bad
guys can mutate faster then the scan engines can keep up. 

I would like to look at products like Blink closer since they fit more into
the "keep it off the machine" philosophy, but I'm a little concerned with
the viability of eEye right now :( 

Eric Eskam
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RE: SSL certificates

[Rick Corgiat]

Be sure to investigate whether or not mobile devices will work with the
lesser know cert providers. I recently had a tough time getting an older
Cingular phone to work with a GoDaddy cert.

 

Rick

 



From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SSL certificates

 

 

Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for
renewal, and I want to look around at other options, but don't want to
get sucked into a bad issuing authority.

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 





 


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RE: Unstable wireless connection

[Jim Majorowicz]

Sounds like you have Dell's with the Intel PRO wireless.  Most likely this
will be resolved by downloading the latest drivers.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 5:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Unstable wireless connection

We have lots of Dell laptops with similar problems and stumbled on the
procedure Richard described. Most times a reboot will be required after the
adapter is found in the device list.  Really is a PITA!  Currently using
Lenovo R61's and have yet to have an issue with the wireless adapter.

Randy Ryan
Del Valle ISD Technology
512-386-3054 - Voice
512-386-3055 - Fax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Unstable wireless connection

Out of curiosity, if you ever encounter that machine again, try 
uninstalling rather than disabling the wired portion of the system.  Then 
try doing a "Scan for hardware changes" in the device manager.  Both 
portions may become functional...

We have one Dell laptop that will appear to boot fine, then the screen 
goes blank.  Nothing revives it.  It will work in safe mode.  Twice now 
(several months apart), I've uninstalled the display adaptor and 
re-booted.  The system finds the drivers, and all is well (for several 
weeks, anyway).
--
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ASPCA Knowledge Management
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217-337-9761
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"James Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 05:00:01 AM:

> 
> I had a similar thing happen to a friend that I only got around by 
> disabling his network card. After that the wireless stayed on 
> regardless of privilege. Luckily he didn't need to use the NIC, and 
> it took me so long to fix I didn't stay to work out why this cured 
> the issue - very unprofessional of me 

> On 17/01/2008, Silvio L. Nisgoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> A new  machine in a client has started behaving strangely : using a 
domain
> admin account, the wireless connection works ok. I could join the 
machine to
> domain, install apps, etc.
> But when logging with a common user, the connection drops repeatedly ( 
stays 
> on for some seconds, then fall, reconnects, fall again ) .
> 
> Just in this machine.
> 
> Is there something I´m overlooking?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Silvio.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Steve Kelsay]

I'd love to next year when the budget is approved. 

 

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

 





Steve,

Try ESET's new Smart Security Suite

 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent
virus protection it
gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate malware product in
addition to Counterspy.

I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some
interaction problems.
OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
   
"You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy and
vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."

So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only
to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on
1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not very
likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter how
much I like the product otherwise.

So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your
opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere
with the antivirus products?

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RE: SSL certificates

[Eldridge, Dave]

directnic.com
Been using them for years.



From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SSL certificates




Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for
renewal, and I want to look around at other options, but don't want to
get sucked into a bad issuing authority.

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

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RE: Small IT company software application

[Benjamin Zachary]

I know theres a lot of free ones. Spiceworks has a nice software mgmt app
but requires domain rights and such, their help desk is simple but nothing
fancy.

For help desk stuff with asset tracking/control I use www.inet-sciences.com
  all web based, includes time/billing
features that can be easily imported/managed by a bookkeeper, and has a
'tiny' version that works well on phones. That made it great for us to be
able to do service tickets in the field. 

It has a client login option for ticketing, and the client can assign an
asset to it. You can set it up in help desk or consulting mode. Consulting
mode carves out the inventory by company, so everyone at company A doesn't
see company B's assets, or tickets.

The software mgmt tool is decent, has like 20 slots + serial #'s but its all
done by hand. Used in conjunction with Spiceworks reports you can cross
reference it to get you going. 

5 user free tech, spiceworks is free so not too bad.

  _  

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Small IT company software application

 

 

Lo chaps,

Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me. I'm
after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients here. We
were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right on paper but
doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support tickets (ie
helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also include asset
management and be able to associate an asset with a companys record, so that
we can see assets belonging to companies. We also have to be able to add a
lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate the
data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than an IT
company servicing multiple clients.

Any suggestions ?

I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but I
can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution.

 

Olly

 

 







 


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RE: SSL certificates

[gsweers]

What reputation is that, there poor customer service, bad business practices, 
or general arrogance that makes them so distasteful to deal with.


-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL certificates

I've used http://www.certificatesforexchange.com/ for an SSL cert for OWA.  
Just as good as the big guys and cheap!  Also purchased one through Godaddy.com 
a couple years ago - same authority, I think.

For online business transactions, however, I'd stick with Verisign, Thawte, or 
Geotrust for their recognition and reputation.


Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 
Artificial Intelligence:  Making computers behave like they do in the movies. 
  
  
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: SSL certificates 
  
  
Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using 
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for renewal, and 
I want to look around at other options, but don't want to get sucked into a bad 
issuing authority.
  
Joe Heaton 
AISA 
Employment Training Panel 
1100 J Street, 4th Floor 
Sacramento, CA  95814 
(916) 327-5276 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  



  
    

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RE: SSL certificates

[Roger Wright]

I agree that NSI and VeriSign are terrible to deal with.

But VeriSign still remains the most commonly recognized authority for SSL 
verification and may provide users more confidence.  


Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL certificates

What reputation is that, there poor customer service, bad business practices, 
or general arrogance that makes them so distasteful to deal with.


-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL certificates

I've used http://www.certificatesforexchange.com/ for an SSL cert for OWA.  
Just as good as the big guys and cheap!  Also purchased one through Godaddy.com 
a couple years ago - same authority, I think.

For online business transactions, however, I'd stick with Verisign, Thawte, or 
Geotrust for their recognition and reputation.


Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388

Artificial Intelligence:  Making computers behave like they do in the movies. 
  
  
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SSL certificates 
  
  
Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using 
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for renewal, and 
I want to look around at other options, but don't want to get sucked into a bad 
issuing authority.
  
Joe Heaton 
AISA 
Employment Training Panel 
1100 J Street, 4th Floor 
Sacramento, CA  95814 
(916) 327-5276 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  



  
    

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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Tom Strader]

Steve,

Try ESET's new Smart Security Suite


 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent
virus protection it
gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate malware product in
addition to Counterspy.

I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some
interaction problems.
OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
   
"You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy and
vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."

So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only
to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on
1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not very
likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter how
much I like the product otherwise.

So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your
opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere
with the antivirus products?

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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

I suspect folks would consider you a unique individual.

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Not Symantec apologist. But as I use many of their products since many years
I cannot complain having more issues than I had with MS(i.e.) or Adobe

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

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Da: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 17.48
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

No question, just Guido being a Symantec apologist.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Not sure I understand the question.

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Opinion on using or just a firing to Symantec ?

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

  _  

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.03
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I’m
sure there are more, but it’s now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really
don’t know if that’s a Symantec-issue or not.

I’m sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You
can view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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[HELP_PC]

Not Symantec apologist. But as I use many of their products since many years I 
cannot complain having more issues than I had with MS(i.e.) or Adobe
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

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Da: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 17.48
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions




No question, just Guido being a Symantec apologist.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Not sure I understand the question.

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Opinion on using or just a firing to Symantec ?

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

  _  

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.03
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I'm 
sure there are more, but it's now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really don't 
know if that's a Symantec-issue or not.

I'm sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you 
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You can 
view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new 
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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RE: Small IT company software application

[Tim Vander Kooi]

If you are managing Microsoft environments then SCE and SCOM with the
Remote Management piece is really nice and very configurable.

TVK

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Small IT company software application

 

 

Lo chaps,

Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me.
I'm after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients
here. We were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right
on paper but doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support
tickets (ie helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also
include asset management and be able to associate an asset with a
companys record, so that we can see assets belonging to companies. We
also have to be able to add a lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate
the data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than
an IT company servicing multiple clients.

Any suggestions ?

I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but
I can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution.

 

Olly

 

 





 


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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

Never experienced anything bad with Altiris products.  Altiris is a great
company, and their products have really evolved over the time I’ve been
familiar with them, i.e., I’ve know them since about 1999, when it was
called Computing Edge.

Me – I just gather and propagate information supplied by the community.

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Question was :

Did you personally experienced something bad in Altiris products since
Symantec purchase or simply like to propagate well known opinions on
Symantec ?

 

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

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Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.41
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

Not sure I understand the question.

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Opinion on using or just a firing to Symantec ?

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

  _  

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.03
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I’m
sure there are more, but it’s now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really
don’t know if that’s a Symantec-issue or not.

I’m sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You
can view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Tim Vander Kooi]

No question, just Guido being a Symantec apologist.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Not sure I understand the question.

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Opinion on using or just a firing to Symantec ?

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 



Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.03
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I'm 
sure there are more, but it's now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really don't 
know if that's a Symantec-issue or not.

I'm sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you 
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You can 
view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new 
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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Re: Small IT company software application

[Durf]

ConnectWise and AutoTask are the market leaders right now in the small
consulting space.  ConnectWise has some modest asset and contract management
features which they may have improved lately.

-- Durf

On Jan 18, 2008 9:54 AM, Oliver Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>  Lo chaps,
>
> Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me.
> I'm after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients here.
> We were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right on paper
> but doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support tickets (ie
> helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also include asset
> management and be able to associate an asset with a companys record, so that
> we can see assets belonging to companies. We also have to be able to add a
> lot of custom fields across the board.
>
> AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate
> the data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than an
> IT company servicing multiple clients.
>
> Any suggestions ?
>
> I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but I
> can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution.
>
>
>
> Olly
>
>
>
>
>


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RE: Lantronix Spider KVM over IP

[Andy Shook]

Raspberry Beret?  You know, the kind you find at a second hand store...

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Lantronix Spider KVM over IP

On Jan 8, 2008 6:59 PM, Phil Guevara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone use the lantronix KVM over IP?
> Love it? Hate it?

  I happened to bump into someone at the LUG meeting last night who
brought one for show-and-tell.  He said they love them where we works
(which is named after a color and a type of head wear).  Fast,
trouble-free, feature-laden.  VGA, 2 x PS/2, USB, serial, 2-port
Ethernet switch, power from PS/2 or aux USB.  Virtual floppy and CD
via USB.  Good Java-based UI.  They're expensive but price-competitive
with other IP KVM stuff.

-- Ben

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Re: Lantronix Spider KVM over IP

[Ben Scott]

On Jan 8, 2008 6:59 PM, Phil Guevara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone use the lantronix KVM over IP?
> Love it? Hate it?

  I happened to bump into someone at the LUG meeting last night who
brought one for show-and-tell.  He said they love them where we works
(which is named after a color and a type of head wear).  Fast,
trouble-free, feature-laden.  VGA, 2 x PS/2, USB, serial, 2-port
Ethernet switch, power from PS/2 or aux USB.  Virtual floppy and CD
via USB.  Good Java-based UI.  They're expensive but price-competitive
with other IP KVM stuff.

-- Ben

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Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Bryan Garmon]

there are several customer favorites:

http://www.altirigos.com/ is one
http://forums.altiris.com/ is another



-Original Message-
From: Eric E Eskam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:03:50 -0500



Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 10:15:49 AM:

> Well I work for the Symantec Altiris Business Unit in the enterprise
> support group. 

Hi Bryan!  Does Altiris have a user community like myitforum.com for
SMS?  I was looking but could never find one... 

Eric Eskam
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R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[HELP_PC]

Question was :
Did you personally experienced something bad in Altiris products since Symantec 
purchase or simply like to propagate well known opinions on Symantec ?
 
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.41
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions




Not sure I understand the question.

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Opinion on using or just a firing to Symantec ?

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

  _  

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.03
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I'm 
sure there are more, but it's now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really don't 
know if that's a Symantec-issue or not.

I'm sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you 
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You can 
view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new 
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

Here's a couple I'm aware of.

 

http://www.altirigos.com   

 

http://juice.altiris.com

 

 

From: Eric E Eskam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 



Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 10:15:49 AM:

> Well I work for the Symantec Altiris Business Unit in the enterprise
> support group. 

Hi Bryan!  Does Altiris have a user community like myitforum.com for SMS?  I
was looking but could never find one... 

Eric Eskam
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RE: An installed layered service provider LSP is outdated?

[Michael B. Smith]

I had to update a LSP just the other day in order to download non-DRM'ed
music from Amazon.com. But the D/L URL automagically pop'ed up from
Microsoft.com/downloads.

I know that doesn't help you much, but I'm just validating that I've seen an
error like that before.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Spencer Read [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: An installed layered service provider LSP is outdated?

Hi there,

I have a Vista Business laptop connecting to a W2K3 domain
It connects via standard windows VPN (PTPP) to ISA 2006

Outlook works find, web browsing works fine but if I try and access a
shared folder I get the above error message.

If I do the same on a Vista Home Premium machine it works fine

Google isn't much help so has anyone else seen this who could offer some
assistance

Thanks

...Spence




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RE: SSL certificates

[Roger Wright]

I've used http://www.certificatesforexchange.com/ for an SSL cert for OWA.  
Just as good as the big guys and cheap!  Also purchased one through Godaddy.com 
a couple years ago - same authority, I think.

For online business transactions, however, I'd stick with Verisign, Thawte, or 
Geotrust for their recognition and reputation.


Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 
Artificial Intelligence:  Making computers behave like they do in the movies. 
  
  
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:54 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: SSL certificates 
  
  
Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using 
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for renewal, and 
I want to look around at other options, but don't want to get sucked into a bad 
issuing authority.
  
Joe Heaton 
AISA 
Employment Training Panel 
1100 J Street, 4th Floor 
Sacramento, CA  95814 
(916) 327-5276 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  



  
    

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RE: SSL certificates

[Andy Ognenoff]

Both Thawte and GeoTrust (the one we use) are now owned by Verisign – but
all with different pricing.

 - Andy O. 

From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL certificates

I use Thawte. Been for years now. Great company to work with. 
 
Funny though... In another thread we were discussing domain name hijacking.
 I let one of my certs expire as we changed the domain name, and I'm getting
spammed by mail and phone from others trying to get me to move my cert/renew
with them for that domain name. 


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Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Eric E Eskam]

Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 10:15:49 AM:

> Well I work for the Symantec Altiris Business Unit in the enterprise
> support group. 

Hi Bryan!  Does Altiris have a user community like myitforum.com for SMS? 
I was looking but could never find one...

Eric Eskam
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The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any 
position of the U.S. Government
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protein; it rejects it."
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RE: Small IT company software application

[Michael B. Smith]

At my last employer, we wrote our own. 

 

The database was heavily normalized, so the relevant info record only
contained a customer-id, timestamp, activeflag, item-id, and desc - for the
assets. Calls weren't much more complicated.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Small IT company software application

 

 

That does the help desk but not the asset management. What i'm really after
is something that will allow an external company to manage assets and calls
from many other client companies.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 January 2008 15:07
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Small IT company software application

 



AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus is for internal use. I think you want AdventNet
SupportCenter.

 


"Oliver Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

01/18/2008 09:54 AM 


Please respond to
"NT System Admin Issues" 


To

"NT System Admin Issues"  


cc



Subject

Small IT company software application

 



 

Lo chaps, 

Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me. I'm
after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients here. We
were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right on paper but
doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support tickets (ie
helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also include asset
management and be able to associate an asset with a companys record, so that
we can see assets belonging to companies. We also have to be able to add a
lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate the
data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than an IT
company servicing multiple clients. 

Any suggestions ? 

I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but I
can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution. 

  

Olly 






   




















 
 


 

 







 


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RE: SSL certificates

[Louis, Joe]

I use Thawte. Been for years now. Great company to work with. 
 
Funny though... In another thread we were discussing domain name hijacking.
I let one of my certs expire as we changed the domain name, and I'm getting
spammed by mail and phone from others trying to get me to move my cert/renew
with them for that domain name. 

  _  

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SSL certificates




I let all my Verisign certs expire and went with Digicert.  Cheaper (but not
the cheapest) and excellent customer service.  

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

847-941-9206

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SSL certificates

 

 

Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for renewal,
and I want to look around at other options, but don't want to get sucked
into a bad issuing authority.

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 







 


















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RE: SSL certificates

[Bill Lambert]

I let all my Verisign certs expire and went with Digicert.  Cheaper (but
not the cheapest) and excellent customer service.  

 

Bill Lambert

Concuity

847-941-9206

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SSL certificates

 

 

Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for
renewal, and I want to look around at other options, but don't want to
get sucked into a bad issuing authority.

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 





 


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Re: SSL certificates

[jeff . wilhelm]

Comodo - InstantSSL





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01/18/2008 10:53 AM
Please respond to
"NT System Admin Issues" 


To
"NT System Admin Issues" 
cc

Subject
SSL certificates







Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using 
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for renewal, 
and I want to look around at other options, but don?t want to get sucked 
into a bad issuing authority.
 
Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 





 







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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Steve Kelsay]

My apologies to Sunbelt.

The issue this time was that Counterspy identified a threat, but when it
attempted to clean it, NOD32 prevented it from doing anything to the
file. Therefore, the threat could not be cleaned or quarantined, but
also it could not be used malevolently so the system was safe, but I
still got alerts from both systems daily on each of the infected
machines. I have the NOD32 exclusions (in the proper formats) in
Counterspy, so the program itself is protected from interaction, but the
bad files it finds are not in those excluded folders. 

That was the problem, not that they don't normally work together, but in
this one case they do not. I addressed the problem to both companies,
and I confused the responses between the two. Again, My apologies to
Sunbelt.

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SSL certificates

[Joe Heaton]

Someone recently mentioned an SSL issuing authority that they were using
outside of Verisign.  We have a certificate that is coming up for
renewal, and I want to look around at other options, but don't want to
get sucked into a bad issuing authority.

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 


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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

It's the comments I got a kick out of.

 

From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 


The results were surprising...  :P

On Jan 18, 2008 7:03 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I'm
sure there are more, but it's now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really
don't know if that's a Symantec-issue or not. 

I'm sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You
can view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions 

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>> 
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than 
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen. 

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues < 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500



Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a 
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products 
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out 
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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RE: Boggling machine startup script issue.

[Miller Bonnie L .]

And make sure the computer accounts (domain computers group for all systems) 
have at least read access to the shares and files that need to be run.  You can 
test whether things will work under the system account (used during startup 
scripts) by connecting to the machine with psexec (sysinternals/Microsoft 
tools) and launching cmd.

-Bonnie

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Boggling machine startup script issue.



Having trouble with a couple of simple machine side startup scripts that are 
not working. I usually have no problem with these but they are starting to 
annoy me.



Two simple machine GPO's to run bat files.  Gpresult shows them there. The 
registry shows them there yet they are not accomplishing their intended goal. 
One installs Flash 9 and the other installs Java 6. Hitting the bat file 
manually and they run error free.



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Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Don Ely]

The results were surprising...  :P

On Jan 18, 2008 7:03 AM, Rod Trent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>  Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.
> I'm sure there are more, but it's now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really
> don't know if that's a Symantec-issue or not.
>
> I'm sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if
> you need this and I can set it up.
>
> BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You
> can view the results:
>
> http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp
>
>
>
> *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
>
>
>
>
>
> Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new
> package, whatever that is.
>
>
>
> Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?
>
> >>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
> It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
> the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
> software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
> likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
> Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
> undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
> might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.
>
> I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
> them.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500
>
>
>  Hi Folks,
>
> I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
> user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
> application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
> new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
> those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
> what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
> seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
> organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
> licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
> factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
> if the others do the same.
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
> Tom Miller
> Engineer, Information Technology
> Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
> 757-788-0528
>
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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

Let's make it interesting.  Let's see what customer perception is like.
Here's a poll for 9 months after the acquisition...

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symaltsupport.asp   

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

Well I work for the Symantec Altiris Business Unit in the enterprise
support group. So here's what I would say about Symantec support:

The Altiris business unit support has been left alone since the
acquisition - it was not absorbed into the symantec support
organization. While I won't say Altiris support is perfect, our level 1
team has had some challenges in the past, I'm biased to believe that we
provide excellent support to our customers.

I don't have any direct experience with the Symantec support
organization as a customer, other than to hear a bunch of horror stories
about how bad other people say that it is so I'll leave that to others
who have had direct experience. I will say that in recent meetings, the
Symantec executive team has committed to solving whatever support
problems Symantec has had/is having.





-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:49:48 -0500


Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new
package, whatever that is.
 
Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

Not sure I understand the question.

 

From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Opinion on using or just a firing to Symantec ?

 

GuidoElia

HELPPC

 

 

  _  

Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.03
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I’m
sure there are more, but it’s now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really
don’t know if that’s a Symantec-issue or not.

I’m sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You
can view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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R: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[HELP_PC]

Opinion on using or just a firing to Symantec ?
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

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Da: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 16.03
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions




Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I'm 
sure there are more, but it's now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really don't 
know if that's a Symantec-issue or not.

I'm sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you 
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You can 
view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new 
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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An installed layered service provider LSP is outdated?

[Spencer Read]

Hi there,

I have a Vista Business laptop connecting to a W2K3 domain
It connects via standard windows VPN (PTPP) to ISA 2006

Outlook works find, web browsing works fine but if I try and access a
shared folder I get the above error message.

If I do the same on a Vista Home Premium machine it works fine

Google isn't much help so has anyone else seen this who could offer some
assistance

Thanks

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Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Tom Miller]

Thanks Eric, I'll check that site out.  

>>> Eric E Eskam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:43 AM >>>


"Tom Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 08:35:39 AM:

> before I purchase Zenworks can those of you who use 
> LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on what you 
> like/don't like about those products?   All of these products 
> seems to provide similar functionality.   

They are all very similar - however, SMS has an awesome community at 
myitforum.com.  The SMS email list there is top notch - it's almost like having 
a support contract.  All other things being equal, that would weigh pretty 
heavy in my decision making.  Initial acquisition costs are one thing, ongoing 
use of the system are another - and it sounds like MS has acquisition costs 
covered too. 

Eric Eskam
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Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Bryan Garmon]

It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,
 
I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.
 
Comments welcome. 
 
Thanks,
Tom
 
 
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Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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RE: Small IT company software application

[Roger Wright]

Not sure how it would function with outside clients, but Tech+Center
includes asset management:

http://www.inet-sciences.com/techspec.html



Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 

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From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:55 AM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Small IT company software application 
  
  
Lo chaps, 
Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me.
I'm after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients
here. We were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right
on paper but doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support
tickets (ie helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also
include asset management and be able to associate an asset with a
companys record, so that we can see assets belonging to companies. We
also have to be able to add a lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate
the data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than
an IT company servicing multiple clients.

Any suggestions ? 
I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but
I can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution.

  
Olly 
  
  






  



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Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Bryan Garmon]

Well I work for the Symantec Altiris Business Unit in the enterprise
support group. So here's what I would say about Symantec support:

The Altiris business unit support has been left alone since the
acquisition - it was not absorbed into the symantec support
organization. While I won't say Altiris support is perfect, our level 1
team has had some challenges in the past, I'm biased to believe that we
provide excellent support to our customers.

I don't have any direct experience with the Symantec support
organization as a customer, other than to hear a bunch of horror stories
about how bad other people say that it is so I'll leave that to others
who have had direct experience. I will say that in recent meetings, the
Symantec executive team has committed to solving whatever support
problems Symantec has had/is having.





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From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:49:48 -0500


Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new
package, whatever that is.
 
Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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OT: Snow Resort in Fort Worth, TX?

[Sherry Abercrombie]

A man in the UK invented a snow/ice type substance that doesn't melt! There
are plans to have a huge snow resort in the Alliance area. The website below
has all of the details!

http://www.bearfireresorts.com/

Hey Kim, can you see snow skiing here in August???

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RE: Small IT company software application

[Oliver Marshall]

That does the help desk but not the asset management. What i'm really
after is something that will allow an external company to manage assets
and calls from many other client companies.

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 January 2008 15:07
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Small IT company software application

 



AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus is for internal use. I think you want
AdventNet SupportCenter.





"Oliver Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

01/18/2008 09:54 AM 

Please respond to
"NT System Admin Issues" 

To

"NT System Admin Issues"  

cc


Subject

Small IT company software application

 







Lo chaps, 

Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me.
I'm after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients
here. We were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right
on paper but doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support
tickets (ie helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also
include asset management and be able to associate an asset with a
companys record, so that we can see assets belonging to companies. We
also have to be able to add a lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate
the data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than
an IT company servicing multiple clients. 

Any suggestions ? 

I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but
I can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution. 

  

Olly 






   












 


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Re: Small IT company software application

[jeff . wilhelm]

AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus is for internal use. I think you want AdventNet 
SupportCenter.






"Oliver Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
01/18/2008 09:54 AM
Please respond to
"NT System Admin Issues" 


To
"NT System Admin Issues" 
cc

Subject
Small IT company software application







Lo chaps,
Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me. 
I?m after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients 
here. We were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right on 
paper but doesn?t really work. Basically we need to manage support tickets 
(ie helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also include 
asset management and be able to associate an asset with a companys record, 
so that we can see assets belonging to companies. We also have to be able 
to add a lot of custom fields across the board. 
AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn?t let you associate 
the data with a company record, as it?s aimed at an IT Dept rather than an 
IT company servicing multiple clients.
Any suggestions ?
I?m thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but I 
can?t really believe that there isn?t an off the shelf solution.
 
Olly





 







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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

Reed Porter is about the only individual I know who still uses Altiris.  I'm
sure there are more, but it's now more hit-and-miss, it seems.  I really
don't know if that's a Symantec-issue or not.

I'm sure Reed would be willing to help you out offline.  Let me know if you
need this and I can set it up.

BTW: There was a recent poll on the Symantec acquisition of Altiris.  You
can view the results:

http://www.myitforum.com/absolutepm/polls/symalt.asp 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new
package, whatever that is.

 

Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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757-788-0528


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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Louis, Joe]

I'm not a big fan of a one solution piece for AV/Spyware. With Alex's help,
I have been fighting off one for the last few days that isn't detected by
many AV's or anti-malware

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/2a49fe11974871a1c5514729c4a06efe
http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/9da97b95e071686eebda50fc7025b905



-Original Message-
From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

 


I think that AV products also antispyware may detect but not ever blocking
in advance .
I use, with Av, Spybot S&D Immunized and with tea timer and spywareblaster
(just blocking) 


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 15.14
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

I am sold on the NOD32 for antivirus, I need to decide if I can safely use
it exclusively, or if I need additional Spyware software as well, since
NOD32 is reported to handle it as well. 

-Original Message-
From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

 


Really I trust  more  Spybot and Spywareblaster than  any othe antivirus
,nowadays


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 14.40
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

Cross-posting, heh?

OK then, I'll ask this forum as well...

Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of others on this
list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or
spyware (which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)?
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Kelsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 07:37:28 AM:

> How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent 
> virus protection it gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate 
> malware product in addition to Counterspy.
> 
> I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some 
> interaction problems.
> OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
> 
> "You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy 
> and vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."
> 
> So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only 
> to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on 
> 1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not 
> very likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter 
> how much I like the product otherwise.
> 
> So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your 
> opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere 
> with the antivirus products?
> 
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Small IT company software application

[Oliver Marshall]

Lo chaps,

Wondering if the collective knowledge could recommend something for me.
I'm after a package to help manage all the data we have about clients
here. We were looking at AdventNet ServiceDesk Plus, which sounds right
on paper but doesn't really work. Basically we need to manage support
tickets (ie helpdesk stuff), HOWEVER the crunch is that we need to also
include asset management and be able to associate an asset with a
companys record, so that we can see assets belonging to companies. We
also have to be able to add a lot of custom fields across the board. 

AdventNet Service Desk Plus does all this, but doesn't let you associate
the data with a company record, as it's aimed at an IT Dept rather than
an IT company servicing multiple clients.

Any suggestions ?

I'm thinking about going as far as to have something written for us but
I can't really believe that there isn't an off the shelf solution.

 

Olly


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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

Have you also considered the ScriptLogic products?  I was looking at them the 
other day, more comprehensively than I have before, and they’ve really beefed 
up their offerings.  I’m not sure about price, though.

Still, looking at the products they have acquired and seeing what improvements 
they have made, it won’t be long before ScriptLogic is part of that list you 
always see, i.e., Altiris, SMS, LANDesk, etc.

You might take a look…

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

600 on WAN-connected sites, another 100 or so on broadband sites (Zen can 
manage those broadband sites via an agent, not sure about the others).

 

I use Citrix for application availability for some apps, so the 
workstation/user management features are more important.  Imaging is also 
secondary, as we also use Ghost.

 

Tom

>>> "Rod Trent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 8:40 AM >>>

Tom…how many computers and servers are you managing?

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and user management here 
(imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying, application deployment, user 
and workstation management).  There is a new version out and it looks great.  
But, before I purchase Zenworks can those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and 
SMS give me some feedback on what you like/don't like about those products?   
All of these products seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing 
for me (as my organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit 
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a factor here. 
 But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out if the others do the 
same.

 

Comments welcome. 

 

Thanks,

Tom

 

 

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Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528

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Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Tom Miller]

Zen uses MSI format now, so I'd only have to create a pointer in the new 
package, whatever that is.
 
Looks like Altiris is now owned by Symantec.  Any issues with support?  

>>> Bryan Garmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 9:47 AM >>>
It's worth noting for your consideration that while there is the cost of
the software itself, I assume you're using Zenworks packages for
software distribution. If you choose to switch vendors, you'll more than
likely be rebuilding all of your application packages into a non
Zenworks format (possibly MSI or exe). This could be a significant
undertaking depending on how many application packages you have and
might be good enough reason to stick with Zen.

I'm biased toward Altiris but it will probably be the more expensive of
them.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:35:39 -0500


Hi Folks,

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and
user management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

Comments welcome. 

Thanks,
Tom


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Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528


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Re: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Eric E Eskam]

"Tom Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 08:35:39 AM:

> before I purchase Zenworks can those of you who use 
> LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on what you 
> like/don't like about those products?   All of these products 
> seems to provide similar functionality. 

They are all very similar - however, SMS has an awesome community at 
myitforum.com.  The SMS email list there is top notch - it's almost like 
having a support contract.  All other things being equal, that would weigh 
pretty heavy in my decision making.  Initial acquisition costs are one 
thing, ongoing use of the system are another - and it sounds like MS has 
acquisition costs covered too.

Eric Eskam
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Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Eric E Eskam]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01/18/2008 08:40:25 AM:

> Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of 
> others on this 
> list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or 
> spyware (which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)?

Users with admin privs, followed by not patching on a timely schedule (and 
auditing your patch operation to find machines where the patches didn't 
install!).

Seriously, those are the biggest threats.  It's like trying to put the 
smoke back in a log after you burn it.

It's much easier to keep stuff off the machines in the first place then 
trying to detect infections.  Detection is a loosing proposition - the bad 
guys can mutate faster then the scan engines can keep up.

I would like to look at products like Blink closer since they fit more 
into the "keep it off the machine" philosophy, but I'm a little concerned 
with the viability of eEye right now :(

Eric Eskam
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protein; it rejects it."
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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[HELP_PC]

 


I think that AV products also antispyware may detect but not ever blocking in 
advance .
I use, with Av, Spybot S&D Immunized and with tea timer and spywareblaster 
(just blocking) 


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 15.14
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

I am sold on the NOD32 for antivirus, I need to decide if I can safely use it 
exclusively, or if I need additional Spyware software as well, since
NOD32 is reported to handle it as well. 

-Original Message-
From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

 


Really I trust  more  Spybot and Spywareblaster than  any othe antivirus 
,nowadays


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 14.40
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

Cross-posting, heh?

OK then, I'll ask this forum as well...

Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of others on this 
list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or spyware 
(which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)?
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Kelsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 07:37:28 AM:

> How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent 
> virus protection it gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate 
> malware product in addition to Counterspy.
> 
> I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some 
> interaction problems.
> OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
> 
> "You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy 
> and vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."
> 
> So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only 
> to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on 
> 1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not 
> very likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter 
> how much I like the product otherwise.
> 
> So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your 
> opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere 
> with the antivirus products?
> 
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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Christopher Boggs]

Honestly, I don't administer it (except on a small closed lan) or make the call 
to keep using it, but we run Mcafee and have upgraded to 8.5i which has a lot 
more spyware related features.  It's all we run, and over the time of 3 years 
here, we've only had one PC out of ~250 that ever got badly infected.

IMHO, you shouldn't have to run two different programs.  I wouldn't want two 
different on-access scanners bogging down my system.  Our engineers complain 
enough about one on-access scanner.
 

I don't have an opinion on NOD32 though, so I'm not much help.

cb
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From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

 


Really I trust  more  Spybot and Spywareblaster than  any othe antivirus 
,nowadays


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 14.40
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

Cross-posting, heh?

OK then, I'll ask this forum as well...

Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of others on this 
list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or spyware 
(which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)?
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Kelsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 07:37:28 AM:

> How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent 
> virus protection it gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate 
> malware product in addition to Counterspy.
> 
> I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some 
> interaction problems.
> OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
> 
> "You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy 
> and vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."
> 
> So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only 
> to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on 
> 1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not 
> very likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter 
> how much I like the product otherwise.
> 
> So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your 
> opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere 
> with the antivirus products?
> 
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RE: WTF

[Louis, Joe]

I agree and in my mind, that hurts their credibility. I haven't read what
(if any) use agreement says for the search, but that brings up serious
privacy issues. I kinda liken that to google posting your searches everytime
you do a search for a new job. 

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Yes, but I expect it from others attempting to make a profit - I don't
however, expect it from the company that's hosting or has registered the
domain name.

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From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

ISC and a few others the same articles. It's not different than those that
swoop down on domain names as soon as it expires. It's a huge game now. 

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Just saw a similar article about that the other day-

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Network-Solutions-Flack-Producing-Mo
ves-61179.html

Leading domain registrar Network Solutions is under fire for a controversial
practice under which it briefly reserves domain names after it notices
search activity on the names.

Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters. Word of the approach
spread quickly last week after it was revealed that the company was using
its servers to automatically reserve domains temporarily after it recorded a
search on the term or name in question.

By doing so, the company effectively makes it impossible for a would-be
domain owner to register the domain with another reseller for at least four
days. 

/snip
 

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WTF

Ok, so I'm getting ready to register a domain name and setup a web site for
my niece.  I search for a domain name at NSI and it comes up empty, no one
has it.  Good, I then search around for a registrar with the best price.  I
contact one register the domain name and am alerted that they're still
waiting for me to transfer the domain to them.  Huh?  I just bought the
domain, how can it be in a need of transfer

Well, it looks like I'm not the only one who is having this issue.
http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution
s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359

So, after I call NSI for some help, they tell me they'll release the domain
in 4 days, and if I want to buy it (which I already have) I can.
Here's the kicker - as I'm getting off the phone, the guy from NSI states,
hey Rick while I have you, I will give you the domain name for free if you
host it with us - we have the most secure and reliable server in the
industry.  I tell him - Ken, look, do you really think I'm going to do
business with you after you just d!cked me in the a$$ - uh, well, uhmmm,
yeah... right.  

Can't believe they'd do business like that.

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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Steve Kelsay]

I am sold on the NOD32 for antivirus, I need to decide if I can safely use it 
exclusively, or if I need additional Spyware software as well, since NOD32 is 
reported to handle it as well. 

-Original Message-
From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

 


Really I trust  more  Spybot and Spywareblaster than  any othe antivirus 
,nowadays


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 14.40
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

Cross-posting, heh?

OK then, I'll ask this forum as well...

Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of others on this 
list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or spyware 
(which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)?
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Kelsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 07:37:28 AM:

> How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent 
> virus protection it gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate 
> malware product in addition to Counterspy.
> 
> I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some 
> interaction problems.
> OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
> 
> "You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy 
> and vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."
> 
> So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only 
> to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on 
> 1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not 
> very likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter 
> how much I like the product otherwise.
> 
> So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your 
> opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere 
> with the antivirus products?
> 
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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Rod Trent]

Personally, I don't think there's a difference.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

Cross-posting, heh?

OK then, I'll ask this forum as well...

Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of others on this 
list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or 
spyware (which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)?
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Kelsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 07:37:28 AM:

> How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent
> virus protection it 
> gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate malware product in
> addition to Counterspy.
> 
> I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some
> interaction problems. 
> OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
> 
> "You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy and
> vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."
> 
> So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only
> to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on
> 1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not very
> likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter how
> much I like the product otherwise.
> 
> So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your
> opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere
> with the antivirus products? 
> 
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> ~   ~


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RE: WTF

[Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC]

Yes, but I expect it from others attempting to make a profit - I don't
however, expect it from the company that's hosting or has registered the
domain name.

-Original Message-
From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

ISC and a few others the same articles. It's not different than those that
swoop down on domain names as soon as it expires. It's a huge game now. 

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Just saw a similar article about that the other day-

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Network-Solutions-Flack-Producing-Mo
ves-61179.html

Leading domain registrar Network Solutions is under fire for a controversial
practice under which it briefly reserves domain names after it notices
search activity on the names.

Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters. Word of the approach
spread quickly last week after it was revealed that the company was using
its servers to automatically reserve domains temporarily after it recorded a
search on the term or name in question.

By doing so, the company effectively makes it impossible for a would-be
domain owner to register the domain with another reseller for at least four
days. 

/snip
 

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WTF

Ok, so I'm getting ready to register a domain name and setup a web site for
my niece.  I search for a domain name at NSI and it comes up empty, no one
has it.  Good, I then search around for a registrar with the best price.  I
contact one register the domain name and am alerted that they're still
waiting for me to transfer the domain to them.  Huh?  I just bought the
domain, how can it be in a need of transfer

Well, it looks like I'm not the only one who is having this issue.
http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution
s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359

So, after I call NSI for some help, they tell me they'll release the domain
in 4 days, and if I want to buy it (which I already have) I can.
Here's the kicker - as I'm getting off the phone, the guy from NSI states,
hey Rick while I have you, I will give you the domain name for free if you
host it with us - we have the most secure and reliable server in the
industry.  I tell him - Ken, look, do you really think I'm going to do
business with you after you just d!cked me in the a$$ - uh, well, uhmmm,
yeah... right.  

Can't believe they'd do business like that.

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RE: WTF

[Louis, Joe]

ISC and a few others the same articles. It's not different than those that
swoop down on domain names as soon as it expires. It's a huge game now. 

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Just saw a similar article about that the other day-

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Network-Solutions-Flack-Producing-Mo
ves-61179.html

Leading domain registrar Network Solutions is under fire for a controversial
practice under which it briefly reserves domain names after it notices
search activity on the names.

Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters. Word of the approach
spread quickly last week after it was revealed that the company was using
its servers to automatically reserve domains temporarily after it recorded a
search on the term or name in question.

By doing so, the company effectively makes it impossible for a would-be
domain owner to register the domain with another reseller for at least four
days. 

/snip
 

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WTF

Ok, so I'm getting ready to register a domain name and setup a web site for
my niece.  I search for a domain name at NSI and it comes up empty, no one
has it.  Good, I then search around for a registrar with the best price.  I
contact one register the domain name and am alerted that they're still
waiting for me to transfer the domain to them.  Huh?  I just bought the
domain, how can it be in a need of transfer

Well, it looks like I'm not the only one who is having this issue.
http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution
s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359

So, after I call NSI for some help, they tell me they'll release the domain
in 4 days, and if I want to buy it (which I already have) I can.
Here's the kicker - as I'm getting off the phone, the guy from NSI states,
hey Rick while I have you, I will give you the domain name for free if you
host it with us - we have the most secure and reliable server in the
industry.  I tell him - Ken, look, do you really think I'm going to do
business with you after you just d!cked me in the a$$ - uh, well, uhmmm,
yeah... right.  

Can't believe they'd do business like that.

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RE: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[HELP_PC]

 


Really I trust  more  Spybot and Spywareblaster than  any othe antivirus 
,nowadays


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: venerdì 18 gennaio 2008 14.40
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

Cross-posting, heh?

OK then, I'll ask this forum as well...

Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of others on this 
list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or spyware 
(which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)?
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Kelsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 07:37:28 AM:

> How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent 
> virus protection it gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate 
> malware product in addition to Counterspy.
> 
> I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some 
> interaction problems.
> OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
> 
> "You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy 
> and vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."
> 
> So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only 
> to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on 
> 1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not 
> very likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter 
> how much I like the product otherwise.
> 
> So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your 
> opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere 
> with the antivirus products?
> 
> ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~
> ~   ~


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RE: WTF

[Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC]

Actually, they are holding it hostage.  The only good thing I can say -
they're not trying to make any additional money on the domain.

However, I now have to wait 4 days to register the domain somewhere else,
because the NSI servers have it locked.  Additionally, when asked what about
if I wanted to set it up at NSI - oh, well, that we can handle immediately.
How is that not holding a domain hostage?  If they had the ability to
release the domain to someone else, I'd be all for it; but someone did not
think this through.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Well, they only do it for the first "xx" number of domains you search.

Discussed extensively on /. here:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/08/1920215

Here's NSI's response:
http://www.circleid.com/posts/81082_network_solutions_front_running/

I suppose it's not nice if you get bitten by this. But it's not as if NSI is
holding the domain hostage. And it might have been brought in to protect
people who'd otherwise get bitten by something nastier (someone who goes and
registers your domain before you can)

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 18 January 2008 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Just saw a similar article about that the other day-

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Network-Solutions-Flack-Producing-Mo
ves-61179.html

Leading domain registrar Network Solutions is under fire for a controversial
practice under which it briefly reserves domain names after it notices
search activity on the names.

Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters. Word of the approach
spread quickly last week after it was revealed that the company was using
its servers to automatically reserve domains temporarily after it recorded a
search on the term or name in question.

By doing so, the company effectively makes it impossible for a would-be
domain owner to register the domain with another reseller for at least four
days.

/snip


-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WTF

Ok, so I'm getting ready to register a domain name and setup a web site for
my niece.  I search for a domain name at NSI and it comes up empty, no one
has it.  Good, I then search around for a registrar with the best price.  I
contact one register the domain name and am alerted that they're still
waiting for me to transfer the domain to them.  Huh?  I just bought the
domain, how can it be in a need of transfer

Well, it looks like I'm not the only one who is having this issue.
http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution
s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359

So, after I call NSI for some help, they tell me they'll release the domain
in 4 days, and if I want to buy it (which I already have) I can.
Here's the kicker - as I'm getting off the phone, the guy from NSI states,
hey Rick while I have you, I will give you the domain name for free if you
host it with us - we have the most secure and reliable server in the
industry.  I tell him - Ken, look, do you really think I'm going to do
business with you after you just d!cked me in the a$$ - uh, well, uhmmm,
yeah... right.

Can't believe they'd do business like that.

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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Tom Miller]

600 on WAN-connected sites, another 100 or so on broadband sites (Zen
can manage those broadband sites via an agent, not sure about the
others).
 
I use Citrix for application availability for some apps, so the
workstation/user management features are more important.  Imaging is
also secondary, as we also use Ghost.
 
Tom

>>> "Rod Trent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1/18/2008 8:40 AM >>>


Tom…how many computers and servers are you managing?
 

From:Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 
 

Hi Folks,

 

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and user
management here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying,
application deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a
new version out and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can
those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on
what you like/don't like about those products?   All of these products
seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing for me (as my
organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a
factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out
if the others do the same.

 

Comments welcome. 

 

Thanks,

Tom

 

 

Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528
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RE: Unstable wireless connection

[Ryan, Randy]

We have lots of Dell laptops with similar problems and stumbled on the 
procedure Richard described. Most times a reboot will be required after the 
adapter is found in the device list.  Really is a PITA!  Currently using Lenovo 
R61's and have yet to have an issue with the wireless adapter.

Randy Ryan
Del Valle ISD Technology
512-386-3054 - Voice
512-386-3055 - Fax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Unstable wireless connection

Out of curiosity, if you ever encounter that machine again, try 
uninstalling rather than disabling the wired portion of the system.  Then 
try doing a "Scan for hardware changes" in the device manager.  Both 
portions may become functional...

We have one Dell laptop that will appear to boot fine, then the screen 
goes blank.  Nothing revives it.  It will work in safe mode.  Twice now 
(several months apart), I've uninstalled the display adaptor and 
re-booted.  The system finds the drivers, and all is well (for several 
weeks, anyway).
--
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ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"James Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 05:00:01 AM:

> 
> I had a similar thing happen to a friend that I only got around by 
> disabling his network card. After that the wireless stayed on 
> regardless of privilege. Luckily he didn't need to use the NIC, and 
> it took me so long to fix I didn't stay to work out why this cured 
> the issue - very unprofessional of me 

> On 17/01/2008, Silvio L. Nisgoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> A new  machine in a client has started behaving strangely : using a 
domain
> admin account, the wireless connection works ok. I could join the 
machine to
> domain, install apps, etc.
> But when logging with a common user, the connection drops repeatedly ( 
stays 
> on for some seconds, then fall, reconnects, fall again ) .
> 
> Just in this machine.
> 
> Is there something I´m overlooking?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Silvio.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> James Rankin
> Tel: +44 7902 193912 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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RE: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Rod Trent]

Tom.how many computers and servers are you managing?

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and user management
here (imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying, application
deployment, user and workstation management).  There is a new version out
and it looks great.  But, before I purchase Zenworks can those of you who
use LANDesk, Altiris, and SMS give me some feedback on what you like/don't
like about those products?   All of these products seems to provide similar
functionality.  One big thing for me (as my organization is not-for-profit)
is that Microsoft has non-profit licensing that is so much less than the
other three, and cost is a factor here.  But Zen does a lot in one package
and I need to find out if the others do the same.

 

Comments welcome. 

 

Thanks,

Tom

 

 

Tom Miller
Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
757-788-0528

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Re: Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[RichardMcClary]

Cross-posting, heh?

OK then, I'll ask this forum as well...

Out of curiosity (and I'd be interested in the opinions of others on this 
list), which is considered to be the more serious threat - viruses or 
spyware (which includes bots, key loggers, back doors, worms, etc)?
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Steve Kelsay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 07:37:28 AM:

> How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent
> virus protection it 
> gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate malware product in
> addition to Counterspy.
> 
> I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some
> interaction problems. 
> OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:
> 
> "You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy and
> vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."
> 
> So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only
> to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on
> 1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not very
> likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter how
> much I like the product otherwise.
> 
> So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your
> opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere
> with the antivirus products? 
> 
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> ~   ~


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Counterspy will not work with Nod32?

[Steve Kelsay]

How has NOD32 been handling malware for you guys, beside the excellent
virus protection it 
gives? I was wanting to stop using a separate malware product in
addition to Counterspy.

I submitted a support ticket with Sunbelt about the two having some
interaction problems. 
OK, I received this response from Sunbelt support:

"You should temporarily disable NOD32 when scanning with Counterspy and
vice versa; otherwise you'll get these errors."

So, I spend the bucks to buy an Enterprise level spyware utility, only
to be told that I have to manually disable my antivirus every day on
1100 machines to get it to work without raising alerts galore? Not very
likely that I will be renewing under those conditions, no matter how
much I like the product otherwise.

So, can a modern government agency make it with only NOD32, in your
opinions? Any other spyware products out there that do not interfere
with the antivirus products? 

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Altiris, Zenworks, LANDesk, SMS...decisions decisions

[Tom Miller]

Hi Folks,
 
I'm currently using Novell's Zenworks for workstation and user management here 
(imaging, ghosting, remote control, inventorying, application deployment, user 
and workstation management).  There is a new version out and it looks great.  
But, before I purchase Zenworks can those of you who use LANDesk, Altiris, and 
SMS give me some feedback on what you like/don't like about those products?   
All of these products seems to provide similar functionality.  One big thing 
for me (as my organization is not-for-profit) is that Microsoft has non-profit 
licensing that is so much less than the other three, and cost is a factor here. 
 But Zen does a lot in one package and I need to find out if the others do the 
same.
 
Comments welcome. 
 
Thanks,
Tom
 
 
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Engineer, Information Technology
Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board
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RE: WTF

[Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC]

Everyone (except NSI) seems to think that.  How ridiculous. 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

"Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters."

Uh... isn't that exactly what you're doing, Network Dissolutions?

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 07:18 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

That's exactly what happened too.  When speaking with the rep, it appeared
to me that this wasn't the first time it has happened.  It's quite
frustrating.  While I was getting ready to hang up, the tech says - "Hey,
while I have you, we can register that domain name for free if you want to
host it here.  We have the most secure...blah, blah, blah"  I said, you're
kidding me right?  You really can't believe that I'll give you money after
what you just did.  Have a nice day  

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Just saw a similar article about that the other day-

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Network-Solutions-Flack-Producing-Mo
ves-61179.html

Leading domain registrar Network Solutions is under fire for a controversial
practice under which it briefly reserves domain names after it notices
search activity on the names.

Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters. Word of the approach
spread quickly last week after it was revealed that the company was using
its servers to automatically reserve domains temporarily after it recorded a
search on the term or name in question.

By doing so, the company effectively makes it impossible for a would-be
domain owner to register the domain with another reseller for at least four
days. 

/snip
 

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WTF

Ok, so I'm getting ready to register a domain name and setup a web site for
my niece.  I search for a domain name at NSI and it comes up empty, no one
has it.  Good, I then search around for a registrar with the best price.  I
contact one register the domain name and am alerted that they're still
waiting for me to transfer the domain to them.  Huh?  I just bought the
domain, how can it be in a need of transfer

Well, it looks like I'm not the only one who is having this issue.
http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution
s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359

So, after I call NSI for some help, they tell me they'll release the domain
in 4 days, and if I want to buy it (which I already have) I can.
Here's the kicker - as I'm getting off the phone, the guy from NSI states,
hey Rick while I have you, I will give you the domain name for free if you
host it with us - we have the most secure and reliable server in the
industry.  I tell him - Ken, look, do you really think I'm going to do
business with you after you just d!cked me in the a$$ - uh, well, uhmmm,
yeah... right.  

Can't believe they'd do business like that.

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RE: WTF

[Christopher J. Bosak]

"Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters."

Uh... isn't that exactly what you're doing, Network Dissolutions?

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 07:18 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

That's exactly what happened too.  When speaking with the rep, it appeared
to me that this wasn't the first time it has happened.  It's quite
frustrating.  While I was getting ready to hang up, the tech says - "Hey,
while I have you, we can register that domain name for free if you want to
host it here.  We have the most secure...blah, blah, blah"  I said, you're
kidding me right?  You really can't believe that I'll give you money after
what you just did.  Have a nice day  

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Just saw a similar article about that the other day-

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Network-Solutions-Flack-Producing-Mo
ves-61179.html

Leading domain registrar Network Solutions is under fire for a controversial
practice under which it briefly reserves domain names after it notices
search activity on the names.

Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters. Word of the approach
spread quickly last week after it was revealed that the company was using
its servers to automatically reserve domains temporarily after it recorded a
search on the term or name in question.

By doing so, the company effectively makes it impossible for a would-be
domain owner to register the domain with another reseller for at least four
days. 

/snip
 

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WTF

Ok, so I'm getting ready to register a domain name and setup a web site for
my niece.  I search for a domain name at NSI and it comes up empty, no one
has it.  Good, I then search around for a registrar with the best price.  I
contact one register the domain name and am alerted that they're still
waiting for me to transfer the domain to them.  Huh?  I just bought the
domain, how can it be in a need of transfer

Well, it looks like I'm not the only one who is having this issue.
http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution
s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359

So, after I call NSI for some help, they tell me they'll release the domain
in 4 days, and if I want to buy it (which I already have) I can.
Here's the kicker - as I'm getting off the phone, the guy from NSI states,
hey Rick while I have you, I will give you the domain name for free if you
host it with us - we have the most secure and reliable server in the
industry.  I tell him - Ken, look, do you really think I'm going to do
business with you after you just d!cked me in the a$$ - uh, well, uhmmm,
yeah... right.  

Can't believe they'd do business like that.

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RE: WTF

[Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC]

That's exactly what happened too.  When speaking with the rep, it appeared
to me that this wasn't the first time it has happened.  It's quite
frustrating.  While I was getting ready to hang up, the tech says - "Hey,
while I have you, we can register that domain name for free if you want to
host it here.  We have the most secure...blah, blah, blah"  I said, you're
kidding me right?  You really can't believe that I'll give you money after
what you just did.  Have a nice day  

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WTF

Just saw a similar article about that the other day-

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/Network-Solutions-Flack-Producing-Mo
ves-61179.html

Leading domain registrar Network Solutions is under fire for a controversial
practice under which it briefly reserves domain names after it notices
search activity on the names.

Network Solutions describes the technique as a way to protect legitimate
interest in domains from modern-day cyber-squatters. Word of the approach
spread quickly last week after it was revealed that the company was using
its servers to automatically reserve domains temporarily after it recorded a
search on the term or name in question.

By doing so, the company effectively makes it impossible for a would-be
domain owner to register the domain with another reseller for at least four
days. 

/snip
 

-Original Message-
From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr ARMY GUEST USA USASOC
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WTF

Ok, so I'm getting ready to register a domain name and setup a web site for
my niece.  I search for a domain name at NSI and it comes up empty, no one
has it.  Good, I then search around for a registrar with the best price.  I
contact one register the domain name and am alerted that they're still
waiting for me to transfer the domain to them.  Huh?  I just bought the
domain, how can it be in a need of transfer

Well, it looks like I'm not the only one who is having this issue.
http://www.domainnamenews.com/featured/domain-registrar-network-solution
s-front-running-on-whois-searches/1359

So, after I call NSI for some help, they tell me they'll release the domain
in 4 days, and if I want to buy it (which I already have) I can.
Here's the kicker - as I'm getting off the phone, the guy from NSI states,
hey Rick while I have you, I will give you the domain name for free if you
host it with us - we have the most secure and reliable server in the
industry.  I tell him - Ken, look, do you really think I'm going to do
business with you after you just d!cked me in the a$$ - uh, well, uhmmm,
yeah... right.  

Can't believe they'd do business like that.

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Re: Unstable wireless connection

[RichardMcClary]

Out of curiosity, if you ever encounter that machine again, try 
uninstalling rather than disabling the wired portion of the system.  Then 
try doing a "Scan for hardware changes" in the device manager.  Both 
portions may become functional...

We have one Dell laptop that will appear to boot fine, then the screen 
goes blank.  Nothing revives it.  It will work in safe mode.  Twice now 
(several months apart), I've uninstalled the display adaptor and 
re-booted.  The system finds the drivers, and all is well (for several 
weeks, anyway).
--
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ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"James Rankin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/18/2008 05:00:01 AM:

> 
> I had a similar thing happen to a friend that I only got around by 
> disabling his network card. After that the wireless stayed on 
> regardless of privilege. Luckily he didn't need to use the NIC, and 
> it took me so long to fix I didn't stay to work out why this cured 
> the issue - very unprofessional of me 

> On 17/01/2008, Silvio L. Nisgoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> A new  machine in a client has started behaving strangely : using a 
domain
> admin account, the wireless connection works ok. I could join the 
machine to
> domain, install apps, etc.
> But when logging with a common user, the connection drops repeatedly ( 
stays 
> on for some seconds, then fall, reconnects, fall again ) .
> 
> Just in this machine.
> 
> Is there something I´m overlooking?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Silvio.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: Unstable wireless connection

[Silvio L. Nisgoski]

Thanks, I will go there later in the day and try that.


  - Original Message - 
  From: James Rankin 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:00 AM
  Subject: Re: Unstable wireless connection



  I had a similar thing happen to a friend that I only got around by disabling 
his network card. After that the wireless stayed on regardless of privilege. 
Luckily he didn't need to use the NIC, and it took me so long to fix I didn't 
stay to work out why this cured the issue - very unprofessional of me 


  On 17/01/2008, Silvio L. Nisgoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,

A new  machine in a client has started behaving strangely : using a domain
admin account, the wireless connection works ok. I could join the machine to
domain, install apps, etc.
But when logging with a common user, the connection drops repeatedly ( 
stays 
on for some seconds, then fall, reconnects, fall again ) .

Just in this machine.

Is there something I´m overlooking?

Thanks.

Silvio.




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Re: Unstable wireless connection

[James Rankin]

I had a similar thing happen to a friend that I only got around by disabling
his network card. After that the wireless stayed on regardless of privilege.
Luckily he didn't need to use the NIC, and it took me so long to fix I
didn't stay to work out why this cured the issue - very unprofessional of
me

On 17/01/2008, Silvio L. Nisgoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> A new  machine in a client has started behaving strangely : using a domain
> admin account, the wireless connection works ok. I could join the machine
> to
> domain, install apps, etc.
> But when logging with a common user, the connection drops repeatedly (
> stays
> on for some seconds, then fall, reconnects, fall again ) .
>
> Just in this machine.
>
> Is there something I´m overlooking?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Silvio.
>
>
>
>
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