RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

[Greg Mulholland]

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=compare+hyperv+to+esx&btnG=Search&meta=



From: Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

Hi Ken,
We just want to compared what can each VM solution do and what they cannot do. 
Basically it is like a feature to feature comparison.
MS and VMWare will have their own marketing team to bash the other party up and 
we would like to have a more independent and fair comparison.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
WY


- Original Message 
From: Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 12:32:58
Subject: RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

I have a fairly detailed comparison, but it's our internal IP. Do you have 
specific areas that you want compared?

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Hi,
>
> With Hyper V now officially shipping from MS. Does anyone know of any website
> that does a detailed comparison between Hyper V and VMWare ESX?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Wei Yu


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RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

[Ken Schaefer]

I suspect it would be exactly the same speed using either Virtual Centre or 
System Center Virtual Machine Manager. You just grab your template and away you 
go...

Building a VM using PXE will be slightly problematic using Hyper-V, because the 
new "synthetic" 10gbps NICs don't show up until you install the Integration 
Services. SO you need to use a low performance Legacy Nic, and then swap them 
out after the server is built.

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: HELP_PC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 4:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: R: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Well, I would like then ask which will be the easiest and fastest for setting
> up a VM
>
>
> GuidoElia
> HELPPC
>


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R: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

[HELP_PC]

Well, I would like then ask which will be the easiest and fastest for setting 
up a VM 


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: martedì 1 luglio 2008 8.03
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Re: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

Hi Ken,
We just want to compared what can each VM solution do and what they cannot do. 
Basically it is like a feature to feature comparison.
MS and VMWare will have their own marketing team to bash the other party up and 
we would like to have a more independent and fair comparison.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
WY


- Original Message 
From: Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 12:32:58
Subject: RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

I have a fairly detailed comparison, but it's our internal IP. Do you have 
specific areas that you want compared?

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Hi,
>
> With Hyper V now officially shipping from MS. Does anyone know of any 
> website that does a detailed comparison between Hyper V and VMWare ESX?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Wei Yu


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RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

[Ken Schaefer]

There is public information (e.g. max ram supported, max CPUs supported) etc 
available on the various vendor's websites.

If you want other information, it's probably not freely available (as I 
mentioned, we have a detailed comparison between a number of virtualizaion 
products - Hyper-V, ESX, Xen, Sun Containers etc), but I can't share it because 
it's my company's IP, not mine.

If you have a specific area(s) you want looked up, I'm happy to do that though

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 4:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Hi Ken,
> We just want to compared what can each VM solution do and what they cannot do.
> Basically it is like a feature to feature comparison.
> MS and VMWare will have their own marketing team to bash the other party up
> and we would like to have a more independent and fair comparison.
> Thanks.
> Best Regards,
> WY
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 12:32:58
> Subject: RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> I have a fairly detailed comparison, but it's our internal IP. Do you have
> specific areas that you want compared?
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:32 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > With Hyper V now officially shipping from MS. Does anyone know of any
> website
> > that does a detailed comparison between Hyper V and VMWare ESX?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Wei Yu


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Re: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

[Active Elk]

Hi Ken,
We just want to compared what can each VM solution do and what they cannot do. 
Basically it is like a feature to feature comparison.
MS and VMWare will have their own marketing team to bash the other party up and 
we would like to have a more independent and fair comparison.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
WY


- Original Message 
From: Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 12:32:58
Subject: RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

I have a fairly detailed comparison, but it's our internal IP. Do you have 
specific areas that you want compared?

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Hi,
>
> With Hyper V now officially shipping from MS. Does anyone know of any website
> that does a detailed comparison between Hyper V and VMWare ESX?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Wei Yu


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RE: WiFi setup

[Ken Schaefer]

Doesn't 802.1x use EAP? If so then EAP-TLS is just one way of authenticating 
the client...

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 7:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
>
> How would you use Radius/802.1x technology without certificates?
>
> Carl
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:09 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
>
> If you are forced to WPA/WPA2 use a Max length pass phrase with
> randomized Upper lower, Numbers, Special Characters (you know the
> drill). It might take the sting out of the crackers Anything with
> pre-shared keys is crackable given enough time and processor power. I
> don't think 802.1x with Radius is susceptible, provided you are using
> certificates.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:04 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
>
> You shouldn't have any problems then. It is more of a track record on
> WEP/WPA and related that is to worry about, but you can always handle
> that when the time comes. Currently the only WPA2 that can be cracked is
> that which uses pre-shared keys.
>
> Marc Maiffret
> Founder/CEO
> Invenio Security
> Security Services & Training
> http://www.inveniosecurity.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:35 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > We have cisco 440r controllers and a acs appliance.  We use WPA2 with
> > 8021.X for authentication against our active directory..
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Sent: 6/30/08 3:17 PM
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports
> > WPA2 and uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.
> >
> > In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the
> > "n" throughput boost.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:56 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and
> > engineer this?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi
> > systems
> > and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection
> > mechanisms
> > such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
> > attacks.
> >
> > Marc Maiffret
> > Founder/CEO
> > Invenio Security
> > Security Services & Training
> > http://www.inveniosecurity.com
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: WiFi setup
> > >
> > > I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> > > Yeah.
> > > I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> > > datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> > > I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> > > Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building
> with
> > 3
> > > floors?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: WiFi setup

[Ken Schaefer]

Um, how do you think certificates work? They use public/private key technology 
to exchange a symmetric key pair. Given enough time and processing power you 
can break any TLS based encryption mechanism as well :-)

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Mike French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 7:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
>
> If you are forced to WPA/WPA2 use a Max length pass phrase with
> randomized Upper lower, Numbers, Special Characters (you know the
> drill). It might take the sting out of the crackers Anything with
> pre-shared keys is crackable given enough time and processor power. I
> don't think 802.1x with Radius is susceptible, provided you are using
> certificates.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:04 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
>
> You shouldn't have any problems then. It is more of a track record on
> WEP/WPA and related that is to worry about, but you can always handle
> that when the time comes. Currently the only WPA2 that can be cracked is
> that which uses pre-shared keys.
>
> Marc Maiffret
> Founder/CEO
> Invenio Security
> Security Services & Training
> http://www.inveniosecurity.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:35 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > We have cisco 440r controllers and a acs appliance.  We use WPA2 with
> > 8021.X for authentication against our active directory..
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Sent: 6/30/08 3:17 PM
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports
> > WPA2 and uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.
> >
> > In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the
> > "n" throughput boost.
> >
> > Carl


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RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

[Ken Schaefer]

I have a fairly detailed comparison, but it's our internal IP. Do you have 
specific areas that you want compared?

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Hi,
>
> With Hyper V now officially shipping from MS. Does anyone know of any website
> that does a detailed comparison between Hyper V and VMWare ESX?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Wei Yu


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R: Imaging Software

[HELP_PC]

Storagecraft is ,IMO, the best for Servers, workstations even with HIR 


GuidoElia
HELPPC

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Paul DaSilva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: lunedì 30 giugno 2008 23.05
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Imaging Software

Good Afternoon,
I'm looking in getting some new imaging/cloning software for 
workstations. I've used the Symantec Ghost Suite previously, but I'm open to 
different vendors. What are some of your favorites? Any suggestions, comments?




-Paul

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Migrating to new domain

[mck1012]

I am in the process of migrating to a new AD forest. The user accounts have 
already been created in both domains, they have not been migrated so there is 
no sid history. I what to get your suggestions on the best way to migrate the 
workstations over and have the users preserve their current desktop and app 
settings. I am not sure the ADMT will work because of the SID history.


  
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RE: Impression on AVAMAR from EMC

[Martin Blackstone]

Take a look at Data Domain.

 

From: Andrew Leong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Impression on AVAMAR from EMC

 

Hi all,

We are considering Avamar form EMC to provide backup and recovery support
for our branches. Our branches have only a single file server with 100-200 G
of user files and some have lotus notes servers with 30-50G of data. 

I realize the "gotcha" with respect to system recovery at a branch. What we
like to know is your experience/opinion with respect to functionality,
administrative, ease of use .. from a system admin point of view. lastly is
the user self file restore feature useable, as advertised.

Thanks.

Andrew


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Re: Impression on AVAMAR from EMC

[Active Elk]

Not to say Avamar is a bad product, but have you considered Symantec Pure Disk?
WY


- Original Message 
From: Andrew Leong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 9:51:05
Subject: Impression on AVAMAR from EMC

Hi all,

We are considering Avamar form EMC to provide backup and recovery support for 
our branches. Our branches have only a single file server with 100-200 G of 
user files and some have lotus notes servers with 30-50G of data. 

I realize the "gotcha" with respect to system recovery at a branch. What we 
like to know is your experience/opinion with respect to functionality, 
administrative, ease of use .. from a system admin point of view. lastly is the 
user self file restore feature useable, as advertised.

Thanks.

Andrew



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Impression on AVAMAR from EMC

[Andrew Leong]

Hi all,

We are considering Avamar form EMC to provide backup and recovery support
for our branches. Our branches have only a single file server with 100-200 G
of user files and some have lotus notes servers with 30-50G of data.

I realize the "gotcha" with respect to system recovery at a branch. What we
like to know is your experience/opinion with respect to functionality,
administrative, ease of use .. from a system admin point of view. lastly is
the user self file restore feature useable, as advertised.

Thanks.

Andrew

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Re: Image - destructive load

[Steve Pruitt]

Rick, since you plan to use SMS you need to ask your questions in the mssms 
mailing list (see 
http://www.myitforum.com/lists/#Microsoft_Systems_Management_Server_(SMS)_List 
to subscribe). That's where you'll find experts on using MDT 2008 (MS 
Deployment Toolkit) with SMS. That provides the tools you need for your 
rollout, including saving and restoring user data through USMT. MDT makes use 
of other technologies and tools where appropriate, while making them even 
easier to use.

Steve

  - Original Message - 
  From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:59 PM
  Subject: RE: Image - destructive load


  Not necessarily.  The image is something we've had for some time.  Somehow, 
the baseline has become "skewed" and needs to be brought back into compliance.  
The image is used on every new load today, but it is a manual method. 


  We plan to use SMS to deploy the new image.

  Most, if not all the applications will be on the new image.  Any others will 
be deployed via SMS packages.

  Network is pretty robust and supports multicast.

  Yes, we've considered the user profiles/states and are now looking at USMT 
and other tools to take care of this.  (As for the analysis - yes, we have - 
it's really pretty scary to be honest with you.  We scanned one subnet and 
extrapolated the size of that subnet out and came to almost 108TB of data - no 
that's not a typo.  Obviously, not scientific, but a lot of data none-the-less.)

   

  Right, we've analysed the applications using SMS.  We've listed most and have 
started creating packages to accommodate them.  Anything that we can't create a 
package for, we're testing on the Terminal Server.  

   

  I think we have a good understanding, just want to ensure we don't miss 
anything.  What you have listed for the last couple of steps is pretty much 
what I had listed as well.

   

  Appreciate your comments,
  Rick

   

   

  From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Image - destructive load

   

  Well, we've done plenty of desktop deployment projects, but it seems you 
already have an image, so you've jumped the gun a bit here haven't you?

   

  What deployment methods/technologies do you have available? 

  How will you lay down the applications afterwards?

  What is your network like?

  You obviously have a user data issue (not just documents, but also 
preferences, configuration, settings etc) - have you done any analysis to see 
what is out there?

   

  Usually you'd start with an analysis phase - look at what's out there, and 
what you have available.

  Then do a design for how it's going to work

  Then do a Proof of Concept

  Then do a Pilot

  Then do your full rollout

   

  Cheers

  Ken

   

   

   

  From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 9:36 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Image - destructive load

   

  We have a requirement to load our new image on close to 30,000 desktops.  I'm 
attempting to put together a project management plan to do so and wanted to 
know if anyone has seen such a plan?  We have noted that in most cases, our 
users are not storing their MyDocuments on the server, so we want to consider 
stuff like this.

   

  Anyone have a step by step process they might have used in the past?

  Thanks

  Rick

   

  

 







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RE: Image - destructive load

[Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC]

Not necessarily.  The image is something we've had for some time.  Somehow,
the baseline has become "skewed" and needs to be brought back into
compliance.  The image is used on every new load today, but it is a manual
method. 


We plan to use SMS to deploy the new image.

Most, if not all the applications will be on the new image.  Any others will
be deployed via SMS packages.

Network is pretty robust and supports multicast.

Yes, we've considered the user profiles/states and are now looking at USMT
and other tools to take care of this.  (As for the analysis - yes, we have -
it's really pretty scary to be honest with you.  We scanned one subnet and
extrapolated the size of that subnet out and came to almost 108TB of data -
no that's not a typo.  Obviously, not scientific, but a lot of data
none-the-less.)

 

Right, we've analysed the applications using SMS.  We've listed most and
have started creating packages to accommodate them.  Anything that we can't
create a package for, we're testing on the Terminal Server.  

 

I think we have a good understanding, just want to ensure we don't miss
anything.  What you have listed for the last couple of steps is pretty much
what I had listed as well.

 

Appreciate your comments,
Rick

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Image - destructive load

 

Well, we've done plenty of desktop deployment projects, but it seems you
already have an image, so you've jumped the gun a bit here haven't you?

 

What deployment methods/technologies do you have available? 

How will you lay down the applications afterwards?

What is your network like?

You obviously have a user data issue (not just documents, but also
preferences, configuration, settings etc) - have you done any analysis to
see what is out there?

 

Usually you'd start with an analysis phase - look at what's out there, and
what you have available.

Then do a design for how it's going to work

Then do a Proof of Concept

Then do a Pilot

Then do your full rollout

 

Cheers

Ken

 

 

 

From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Image - destructive load

 

We have a requirement to load our new image on close to 30,000 desktops.
I'm attempting to put together a project management plan to do so and wanted
to know if anyone has seen such a plan?  We have noted that in most cases,
our users are not storing their MyDocuments on the server, so we want to
consider stuff like this.

 

Anyone have a step by step process they might have used in the past?

Thanks

Rick

 

 

 

 

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Re: VMWare in DR site

[Durf]

Hi Wei;

A slightly lower-tech way of doing it described below:

I have a client who is doing this using SunGard's DR services (they provide
replacement hardware under contract, as well as phones and desktops). It's a
small subsidiary of a large insurance company.  We determined they have a
12-24-hour Recovery Time requirement, with a 1-day Recovery Point objective.


Given that, we image their servers (4) using Symantec BESR to a NAS unit,
that then transfers the images to USB drives.  We then have Iron Mountain
pick up the drive images weekly, along with their backup tapes.  Last
night's backup tape also always goes offsite.

We conducted a successful DR test last year, restoring the images onto the
physical hardware.  This year, BESR has better support for VMWare, so we
will be experimenting with saving the client some $$$ by dropping the number
of SunGard provided servers from 4 to 2 and using BESR to recover to MS
Virtual Server.

This works well with the client's RT and RP requirements, as we were able to
restore in about 18 hours, including getting Internet services and remote
access up and working.  We so far are choosing not to use a direct pipe to
replicate traffic to SunGard, as the Iron Mountain solution works well with
their requirements - IM will drop tapes and drives directly to the SunGard
facility - and SunGard charges quite a lot for direct data sync.

Yours,
Durf

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Active Elk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> HI,
>
> They basically wanted to replicate files and even DHCP server. I do not see
> any Exchange but maybe SQL is somewhere hidden and not made known to us.
>
> As for budget, they really have no idea as they are first time doing this.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Wei Yu
>
> - Original Message 
> From: "Ziots, Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 7:41:51
> Subject: RE: VMWare in DR site
>
> Which pieces of the main site are they wanting to replicate? This it the
> starting point.
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> Network Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: VMWare in DR site
>
> Hi,
>
> Our client wants to have a DR site.
>
> In the primary site, all servers are in physical box. There is no
> virtualization in place. In the DR site, they wanted all the DR servers
> to be in a virtual environment. May I know for guys have implemented
> this, do you mind sharing your experience and what to look out for?
>
> So far what I can think of is using software like CA XOSoft or Double
> Take to do a host to host replication to the DR site. Is there a better
> way to do it?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Wei Yu
>
>
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RE: Image - destructive load

[Ken Schaefer]

Well, we've done plenty of desktop deployment projects, but it seems you 
already have an image, so you've jumped the gun a bit here haven't you?

What deployment methods/technologies do you have available?
How will you lay down the applications afterwards?
What is your network like?
You obviously have a user data issue (not just documents, but also preferences, 
configuration, settings etc) - have you done any analysis to see what is out 
there?

Usually you'd start with an analysis phase - look at what's out there, and what 
you have available.
Then do a design for how it's going to work
Then do a Proof of Concept
Then do a Pilot
Then do your full rollout

Cheers
Ken



From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Image - destructive load

We have a requirement to load our new image on close to 30,000 desktops.  I'm 
attempting to put together a project management plan to do so and wanted to 
know if anyone has seen such a plan?  We have noted that in most cases, our 
users are not storing their MyDocuments on the server, so we want to consider 
stuff like this.

Anyone have a step by step process they might have used in the past?

Thanks
Rick




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[Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC]

We have a requirement to load our new image on close to 30,000 desktops.
I'm attempting to put together a project management plan to do so and wanted
to know if anyone has seen such a plan?  We have noted that in most cases,
our users are not storing their MyDocuments on the server, so we want to
consider stuff like this.

 

Anyone have a step by step process they might have used in the past?

Thanks

Rick


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Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...

[Kurt Buff]

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Google says that first line indicates an EtherChannel misconfiguration -
> one side is configured for EtherChannel and the other isn't.

This would make sense, in a way, in that the 3400cl is replacing a
2948G-L3. But, again, the 2950T-24 worked with the 3400cl where the
2950T-48 didn't.

> BTW I find that HyperTerminal Private Edition works better than the
> HyperTerminal shipped with Windows. It appears to no longer be freeware,
> but the last freeware edition (6.3) can be located via Google.
>
> We use SecureCRT (http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html);
> it's a much better product and works better for our needs (we're a
> reseller of used network infrastructure equipment). If you don't need
> the SSH features the plain CRT product is cheaper.

Nice to know. I just checked - Putty can do a serial port. I've just
installed that on the really old Sony Win9x laptop we upgraded to
Win2k to deal with this. I think that'll come in handy.

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RE: WiFi setup

[Ben Schorr]

Right.  It's a very low hurdle.

 

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From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 

+1 - Any security expert will tell you that MAC address filtering is
nothing more than placebo.

 

And if someone says otherwise, you need to doubt their "expert" status.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I was messing around with cracking APs and its pretty easy to clone the
MACs of devices connected to the AP to gain access when they are using
MAC filtering. 

- Original Message - 

From: David W. McSpadden   

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I have been getting the MAC's from all the other devices on the
WAN.  We are greating VLAN 127.  It is the default vlan and will get to
the internet only. If you don't have a MAC on the ACL you get a 127 dhcp
address and pumped to the internet only.

It isn't fully functional yet but it is coming.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Steve Ens   

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

And use MAC address filtering...

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

and for security in a credit union environment, segment
the wifi and use VPN from there to get in to the resources on the wired
subnet (among other security measures)

 



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: WiFi setup

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit
Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that
the new datacenter will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was
coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft
building with 3 floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: WiFi setup

[Kennedy, Jim]

That is my understanding, per the guy that wrote the book on hacking wireless 
for the Marine Corps. His systems are used by places I can't mention, if I did 
one of you would have to kill me.


From: Mike French [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 I don't think 802.1x with Radius is susceptible, provided you are using
certificates.


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Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

[Active Elk]

Hi,

With Hyper V now officially shipping from MS. Does anyone know of any website 
that does a detailed comparison between Hyper V and VMWare ESX?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

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Re: VMWare in DR site

[Active Elk]

HI,

They basically wanted to replicate files and even DHCP server. I do not see any 
Exchange but maybe SQL is somewhere hidden and not made known to us.

As for budget, they really have no idea as they are first time doing this.

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Wei Yu

- Original Message 
From: "Ziots, Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Monday, 30 June 2008 7:41:51
Subject: RE: VMWare in DR site

Which pieces of the main site are they wanting to replicate? This it the
starting point. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare in DR site

Hi,

Our client wants to have a DR site.

In the primary site, all servers are in physical box. There is no
virtualization in place. In the DR site, they wanted all the DR servers
to be in a virtual environment. May I know for guys have implemented
this, do you mind sharing your experience and what to look out for?

So far what I can think of is using software like CA XOSoft or Double
Take to do a host to host replication to the DR site. Is there a better
way to do it?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

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Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...

[Phil Brutsche]

Google says that first line indicates an EtherChannel misconfiguration -
one side is configured for EtherChannel and the other isn't.

BTW I find that HyperTerminal Private Edition works better than the
HyperTerminal shipped with Windows. It appears to no longer be freeware,
but the last freeware edition (6.3) can be located via Google.

We use SecureCRT (http://www.vandyke.com/products/securecrt/index.html);
it's a much better product and works better for our needs (we're a
reseller of used network infrastructure equipment). If you don't need
the SSH features the plain CRT product is cheaper.

Kurt Buff wrote:
> I have a probably-useless truncated set of messages left from the
> hyperterminal session, but copy them here in case anyone's interested:
> 
> 00:01:45: %PM-4-ERR_DISABLE: channel-misconfig error detected on Po1, putting 
> Ge
> 00:01:46: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/1, 
> cn
> 00:01:46: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Port-channel1, 
> changen
> 00:01:47: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Port-channel1, changed state to down
> 00:01:47: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/1, changed state to down
> 
> For some reason, hyperterminal was acting quite wonky while working on
> this, and I wasn't able to get good output.

-- 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...

[Kurt Buff]

I have a probably-useless truncated set of messages left from the
hyperterminal session, but copy them here in case anyone's interested:

00:01:45: %PM-4-ERR_DISABLE: channel-misconfig error detected on Po1, putting Ge
00:01:46: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface GigabitEthernet0/1, cn
00:01:46: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Port-channel1, changen
00:01:47: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Port-channel1, changed state to down
00:01:47: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface GigabitEthernet0/1, changed state to down

For some reason, hyperterminal was acting quite wonky while working on
this, and I wasn't able to get good output.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not a clue.
>
> The text of the protocol error you got would help quite a bit...
>
> Kurt Buff wrote:
>> So, if that's the case, then why does the 2950T-24 work, with exactly
>> the same config as the 2950T-48?
>
> --
>
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RE: WiFi setup

[Mike French]

BlackMagic


From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup



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RE: WiFi setup

[Martin Blackstone]

You know. A little of this and a little of that.

-Original Message-
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

How would you use Radius/802.1x technology without certificates?

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Mike French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

If you are forced to WPA/WPA2 use a Max length pass phrase with
randomized Upper lower, Numbers, Special Characters (you know the
drill). It might take the sting out of the crackers Anything with
pre-shared keys is crackable given enough time and processor power. I
don't think 802.1x with Radius is susceptible, provided you are using
certificates.


-Original Message-
From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

You shouldn't have any problems then. It is more of a track record on
WEP/WPA and related that is to worry about, but you can always handle
that when the time comes. Currently the only WPA2 that can be cracked is
that which uses pre-shared keys.

Marc Maiffret
Founder/CEO
Invenio Security
Security Services & Training
http://www.inveniosecurity.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:35 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> We have cisco 440r controllers and a acs appliance.  We use WPA2 with
> 8021.X for authentication against our active directory..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: 6/30/08 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports
> WPA2 and uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.
> 
> In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the
> "n" throughput boost.
> 
> Carl
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:56 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and
> engineer this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi
> systems
> and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection
> mechanisms
> such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
> attacks.
> 
> Marc Maiffret
> Founder/CEO
> Invenio Security
> Security Services & Training
> http://www.inveniosecurity.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: WiFi setup
> >
> > I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> > Yeah.
> > I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> > datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> > I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> > Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building
with
> 3
> > floors?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: WiFi setup

[Don Ely]

"Very" carefully?

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Carl Houseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How would you use Radius/802.1x technology without certificates?
>
> Carl
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:09 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
>
> If you are forced to WPA/WPA2 use a Max length pass phrase with
> randomized Upper lower, Numbers, Special Characters (you know the
> drill). It might take the sting out of the crackers Anything with
> pre-shared keys is crackable given enough time and processor power. I
> don't think 802.1x with Radius is susceptible, provided you are using
> certificates.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:04 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
>
> You shouldn't have any problems then. It is more of a track record on
> WEP/WPA and related that is to worry about, but you can always handle
> that when the time comes. Currently the only WPA2 that can be cracked is
> that which uses pre-shared keys.
>
> Marc Maiffret
> Founder/CEO
> Invenio Security
> Security Services & Training
> http://www.inveniosecurity.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:35 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > We have cisco 440r controllers and a acs appliance.  We use WPA2 with
> > 8021.X for authentication against our active directory..
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Sent: 6/30/08 3:17 PM
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports
> > WPA2 and uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.
> >
> > In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the
> > "n" throughput boost.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:56 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and
> > engineer this?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
> > Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> >
> > Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi
> > systems
> > and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection
> > mechanisms
> > such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
> > attacks.
> >
> > Marc Maiffret
> > Founder/CEO
> > Invenio Security
> > Security Services & Training
> > http://www.inveniosecurity.com
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: WiFi setup
> > >
> > > I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> > > Yeah.
> > > I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> > > datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> > > I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> > > Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building
> with
> > 3
> > > floors?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: WiFi setup

[Carl Houseman]

How would you use Radius/802.1x technology without certificates?

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Mike French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

If you are forced to WPA/WPA2 use a Max length pass phrase with
randomized Upper lower, Numbers, Special Characters (you know the
drill). It might take the sting out of the crackers Anything with
pre-shared keys is crackable given enough time and processor power. I
don't think 802.1x with Radius is susceptible, provided you are using
certificates.


-Original Message-
From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

You shouldn't have any problems then. It is more of a track record on
WEP/WPA and related that is to worry about, but you can always handle
that when the time comes. Currently the only WPA2 that can be cracked is
that which uses pre-shared keys.

Marc Maiffret
Founder/CEO
Invenio Security
Security Services & Training
http://www.inveniosecurity.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:35 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> We have cisco 440r controllers and a acs appliance.  We use WPA2 with
> 8021.X for authentication against our active directory..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: 6/30/08 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports
> WPA2 and uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.
> 
> In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the
> "n" throughput boost.
> 
> Carl
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:56 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and
> engineer this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi
> systems
> and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection
> mechanisms
> such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
> attacks.
> 
> Marc Maiffret
> Founder/CEO
> Invenio Security
> Security Services & Training
> http://www.inveniosecurity.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: WiFi setup
> >
> > I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> > Yeah.
> > I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> > datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> > I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> > Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building
with
> 3
> > floors?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> >
> >
> 
> 
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RE: WiFi setup

[Mike French]

If you are forced to WPA/WPA2 use a Max length pass phrase with
randomized Upper lower, Numbers, Special Characters (you know the
drill). It might take the sting out of the crackers Anything with
pre-shared keys is crackable given enough time and processor power. I
don't think 802.1x with Radius is susceptible, provided you are using
certificates.


-Original Message-
From: Marc Maiffret [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

You shouldn't have any problems then. It is more of a track record on
WEP/WPA and related that is to worry about, but you can always handle
that when the time comes. Currently the only WPA2 that can be cracked is
that which uses pre-shared keys.

Marc Maiffret
Founder/CEO
Invenio Security
Security Services & Training
http://www.inveniosecurity.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:35 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> We have cisco 440r controllers and a acs appliance.  We use WPA2 with
> 8021.X for authentication against our active directory..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: 6/30/08 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports
> WPA2 and uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.
> 
> In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the
> "n" throughput boost.
> 
> Carl
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:56 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and
> engineer this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi
> systems
> and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection
> mechanisms
> such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
> attacks.
> 
> Marc Maiffret
> Founder/CEO
> Invenio Security
> Security Services & Training
> http://www.inveniosecurity.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: WiFi setup
> >
> > I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> > Yeah.
> > I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> > datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> > I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> > Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building
with
> 3
> > floors?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Imaging Software

[Paul DaSilva]

Good Afternoon,
I'm looking in getting some new imaging/cloning software for 
workstations. I've used the Symantec Ghost Suite previously, but I'm open to 
different vendors. What are some of your favorites? Any suggestions, comments?




-Paul

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Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...

[Phil Brutsche]

Not a clue.

The text of the protocol error you got would help quite a bit...

Kurt Buff wrote:
> So, if that's the case, then why does the 2950T-24 work, with exactly
> the same config as the 2950T-48?

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RE: WiFi setup

[Marc Maiffret]

You shouldn’t have any problems then. It is more of a track record on WEP/WPA 
and related that is to worry about, but you can always handle that when the 
time comes. Currently the only WPA2 that can be cracked is that which uses 
pre-shared keys.

Marc Maiffret
Founder/CEO
Invenio Security
Security Services & Training
http://www.inveniosecurity.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:35 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> We have cisco 440r controllers and a acs appliance.  We use WPA2 with
> 8021.X for authentication against our active directory..
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: 6/30/08 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports
> WPA2 and uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.
> 
> In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the
> "n" throughput boost.
> 
> Carl
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:56 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and
> engineer this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
> Subject: RE: WiFi setup
> 
> Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi
> systems
> and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection
> mechanisms
> such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
> attacks.
> 
> Marc Maiffret
> Founder/CEO
> Invenio Security
> Security Services & Training
> http://www.inveniosecurity.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: WiFi setup
> >
> > I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> > Yeah.
> > I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> > datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> > I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> > Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with
> 3
> > floors?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> >
> >
> 
> 
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RE: Blackberry outage?

[Ara Avvali]

Great!!!

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: June 30, 2008 3:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Blackberry outage?

Quote: 
"Since more than 1 hour, no data (1X, EVDO) are not available in Canada, at 
least for Bell Mobility.
Just got offline with them and had that confirmation."

Just received from the Blackberry outage list.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Depends on who's asking, eh?  Take off, you hoser.

Shook

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberry outage?

Did you go and get deported again?


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberry outage?

No.

Sent from my Blackberry on Bell in Canada.

Shook
-Original Message-
From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberry outage?

Hey everyone

Anyone here in Canada with Bell noticing blackberry outage? Thanks

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Re: Blackberry outage?

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Quote: "Since more than 1 hour, no data (1X, EVDO) are not available in
Canada, at least for Bell Mobility.
Just got offline with them and had that confirmation."

Just received from the Blackberry outage list.


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Andy Shook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Depends on who's asking, eh?  Take off, you hoser.
>
> Shook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Blackberry outage?
>
> Did you go and get deported again?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Blackberry outage?
>
> No.
>
> Sent from my Blackberry on Bell in Canada.
>
> Shook
> -Original Message-
> From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:53 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Blackberry outage?
>
> Hey everyone
>
> Anyone here in Canada with Bell noticing blackberry outage? Thanks
>
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Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...

[Phil Brutsche]

After thinking about it some more (comments inline)...

Phil Brutsche wrote:
> interface GigabitEthernet0/1
>  switchport trunk pruning vlan none
>  switchport mode trunk
>  switchport nonegotiate
>  flowcontrol send off
>  channel-protocol lacp
>  channel-group 1 mode on

The last line should read:

 channel-group 1 mode active

> int 23-24 lacp active
> trunk 23-24 trk1 lacp

The first line isn't needed, they default to active mode.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...

[Kurt Buff]

So, if that's the case, then why does the 2950T-24 work, with exactly
the same config as the 2950T-48?

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It looks to me like you are running into a PAgP (aka Cisco EtherChannel)
> vs LACP configuration issue.
>
> The 2950 series supports both and defaults to PAgP; any and all current
> HP switches only support LACP. HP dropped PAgP support a long time ago
> and IIRC the 3400cl switches *never* supported PAgP.
>
> Based on your posted configuration, if you want to do link aggregation
> with an between a Cisco and HP (or any other non-Cisco) switch the
> configuration for Gi0/1 and Gi0/2 should look something like this:
>
> interface GigabitEthernet0/1
>  switchport trunk pruning vlan none
>  switchport mode trunk
>  switchport nonegotiate
>  flowcontrol send off
>  channel-protocol lacp
>  channel-group 1 mode on
>
> You will also need to make sure the HP switch is configured for LACP;
> this snippet will configure port 23 and 24 as a LAG (HP uses the term
> "trunk") using the LACP protocol:
>
> int 23-24 lacp active
> trunk 23-24 trk1 lacp
>
> Kurt Buff wrote:
>> The port that has the trunk is gi 0/1 on each of the 2950T-48s.
>>
>> The config bits that I believe to be are relevant are:
>>
>> spanning-tree mode pvst
>> no spanning-tree optimize bpdu transmission
>> spanning-tree extend system-id
>>
>> interface Port-channel1
>>  switchport trunk pruning vlan none
>>  switchport mode trunk
>>  switchport nonegotiate
>>  flowcontrol send off
>>
>> interface GigabitEthernet0/1
>>  switchport trunk pruning vlan none
>>  switchport mode trunk
>>  switchport nonegotiate
>>  flowcontrol send off
>>  channel-group 1 mode on
>
> --
>
> Phil Brutsche
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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RE: WiFi setup

[Chyka, Robert]

We have cisco 440r controllers and a acs appliance.  We use WPA2 with 8021.X 
for authentication against our active directory..

-Original Message-
From: "Carl Houseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: 6/30/08 3:17 PM
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports WPA2 and 
uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.

In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the "n" 
throughput boost.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and engineer this?

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi systems
and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection mechanisms
such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
attacks. 

Marc Maiffret
Founder/CEO
Invenio Security
Security Services & Training
http://www.inveniosecurity.com


> -Original Message-
> From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: WiFi setup
> 
> I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> Yeah.
> I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
> floors?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> 
> 



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Re: WiFi setup

[James Kerr]

Administrative overhead of about 2 minutes if there are active cleints 
connected to the AP. So really, it is not effective.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Phillip Partipilo 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:05 PM
  Subject: RE: WiFi setup


  But macs are easily spoofed.  Any determined attacker would be sniffing the 
airwaves to snag a mac thats accessing the network and would spoof it to get 
around that barrier.  All MAC filtering would do is add administrative overhead.


  Phillip Partipilo
  Parametric Solutions Inc.
  Jupiter, Florida
  (561) 747-6107






--
  From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:07 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: WiFi setup


  And use MAC address filtering...


  On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use 
VPN from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other 
security measures)




From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: WiFi setup


I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter 
will have to have WiFi built in
I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 
floors?







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RE: Blackberry outage?

[Andy Shook]

Depends on who's asking, eh?  Take off, you hoser.

Shook

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberry outage?

Did you go and get deported again?


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberry outage?

No.

Sent from my Blackberry on Bell in Canada.

Shook
-Original Message-
From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberry outage?

Hey everyone

Anyone here in Canada with Bell noticing blackberry outage? Thanks

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RE: WiFi setup

[Carl Houseman]

I wouldn't worry about separate IPSEC if your Wi-Fi hardware supports WPA2 and 
uses a 802.1x (Radius server) for client authentication.

In fact, if you go for 802.11n, you're required to use WPA2 to get the "n" 
throughput boost.

Carl

-Original Message-
From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and engineer this?

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi systems
and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection mechanisms
such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
attacks. 

Marc Maiffret
Founder/CEO
Invenio Security
Security Services & Training
http://www.inveniosecurity.com


> -Original Message-
> From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: WiFi setup
> 
> I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> Yeah.
> I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
> floors?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> 
> 



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RE: Blackberry outage?

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Did you go and get deported again?


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberry outage?

No.

Sent from my Blackberry on Bell in Canada.

Shook
-Original Message-
From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberry outage?

Hey everyone

Anyone here in Canada with Bell noticing blackberry outage? Thanks

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RE: Blackberry outage?

[Ara Avvali]

Yeah right LOL

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: June 30, 2008 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Blackberry outage?

No. 

Sent from my Blackberry on Bell in Canada. 

Shook
-Original Message-
From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberry outage?

Hey everyone

Anyone here in Canada with Bell noticing blackberry outage? Thanks 

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RE: Blackberry outage?

[Andy Shook]

No. 

Sent from my Blackberry on Bell in Canada. 

Shook
-Original Message-
From: Ara Avvali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blackberry outage?

Hey everyone

Anyone here in Canada with Bell noticing blackberry outage? Thanks 

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Blackberry outage?

[Ara Avvali]

Hey everyone

Anyone here in Canada with Bell noticing blackberry outage? Thanks 

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Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...

[Phil Brutsche]

It looks to me like you are running into a PAgP (aka Cisco EtherChannel)
vs LACP configuration issue.

The 2950 series supports both and defaults to PAgP; any and all current
HP switches only support LACP. HP dropped PAgP support a long time ago
and IIRC the 3400cl switches *never* supported PAgP.

Based on your posted configuration, if you want to do link aggregation
with an between a Cisco and HP (or any other non-Cisco) switch the
configuration for Gi0/1 and Gi0/2 should look something like this:

interface GigabitEthernet0/1
 switchport trunk pruning vlan none
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport nonegotiate
 flowcontrol send off
 channel-protocol lacp
 channel-group 1 mode on

You will also need to make sure the HP switch is configured for LACP;
this snippet will configure port 23 and 24 as a LAG (HP uses the term
"trunk") using the LACP protocol:

int 23-24 lacp active
trunk 23-24 trk1 lacp

Kurt Buff wrote:
> The port that has the trunk is gi 0/1 on each of the 2950T-48s.
> 
> The config bits that I believe to be are relevant are:
> 
> spanning-tree mode pvst
> no spanning-tree optimize bpdu transmission
> spanning-tree extend system-id
> 
> interface Port-channel1
>  switchport trunk pruning vlan none
>  switchport mode trunk
>  switchport nonegotiate
>  flowcontrol send off
> 
> interface GigabitEthernet0/1
>  switchport trunk pruning vlan none
>  switchport mode trunk
>  switchport nonegotiate
>  flowcontrol send off
>  channel-group 1 mode on

-- 

Phil Brutsche
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Problem with installation of SP3

[Ziots, Edward]

Just uninstall Mcafee and reboot then re-try,. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3

 

 

 

Not running Norton, running McAfee...

 

But If I ever get this system back, I will download SP3 and then disable
McAfee

 

 

 



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3

Are you running AV at the time you do the upgrade? 

 

I have seen numerous threads on the Internet about download of IE7.
which is apart of SP3, and Norton being the root of the problem. 

 

Take a look 

 

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1302886&page=3

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3

 

Has not happened to me, but MS provides free support for Service packs
and patches.

 

From: Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Problem with installation of SP3

 

 

 

 

I was attempting to install the Windows XP SP3 on my laptop and got the
following error:

"The file or directory c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.  Please
run the Chkdsk utility."

 

I backed out of SP3 and run chkdsk and found nothing, on reboot; I
received an error that there was no Paging File.  I attempted to
recreate it but I still get the error on reboots.

 

I am also still getting the c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.

 

Has anyone else had this problem with SP3 and found a workaround.  From
Google, it appears to be an IE7 issue, but I don't have IE7 installed.

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

-Steve Nelligan

 

Steven M. Nelligan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 

 

 

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Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...

[Kurt Buff]

The port that has the trunk is gi 0/1 on each of the 2950T-48s.

The config bits that I believe to be are relevant are:

spanning-tree mode pvst
no spanning-tree optimize bpdu transmission
spanning-tree extend system-id

interface Port-channel1
 switchport trunk pruning vlan none
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport nonegotiate
 flowcontrol send off

interface GigabitEthernet0/1
 switchport trunk pruning vlan none
 switchport mode trunk
 switchport nonegotiate
 flowcontrol send off
 channel-group 1 mode on

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Andy Shook
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kurt,
> On the switches that don't work, do you have the command 'switchport
> mode access' on each port?
>
> Shook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 11:47 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Hoping to find someone tonight...
>
> How's that for a subject line, eh?
>
> But, it's true, though you'll have to meet some strict criteria.
>
> Namely, I need help with configuring an HP 3400cl and a set of Cisco
> 2950T-48s.
>
> Here's the sitrep:
>
> I'm trying to ditch an old Cisco 2948G-L3, and move to a 3400cl.
>
> I have a 2950T-24 that seems to work just fine with the HP - I can put
> the VLANs on it, and ping from one VLAN to another, and it seems to be
> fine.
>
> BUT - when I switch all of my servers (which each have a port of their
> own on the 3400cl, and are not connected to any other switch) and the
> 6x2950T-48s to the 3400cl, it falls apart, in a weird way. BTW -
> Internet access is through an HP 2524 that is also moving between the
> Cisco and HP, but it doesn't have any VLANs on it. It works just fine
> too.
>
> Once they've moved from the Cisco to the HP, the servers are just
> fine, and can talk with each other, and get out to the Internet via
> the HP 2524 - that's how I'm able to talk with you currently - but the
> 2950T-48s can't talk. Their link lights aren't even lit. Nothing.
> Nada. I power cycled both the 2950Ts and the 3400cl, with no luck.
>
> I've examined the configs on the 2950T-24, which works, and one of the
> 2950T-48s, which doesn't work, and I can't see any differences, aside
> from port count. Both are set up with trunks set up on gigabit port 1,
> same configuration down the line.
>
> This is the third time I've tried this, and I've engaged two different
> consulting firms to help out, and I'm going to stay here until it's
> either finished, or I can't stay awake any more, and have to switch it
> back.
>
> Any thoughts you might have would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Kurt
>
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RE: Problem with installation of SP3

[Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)]

 
 
Not running Zone Alarm and "True Vector" service does not appear to be
on my System.
 
Thanks,
-Steve
 
 



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3



http://www.technologyquestions.com/technology/internet-explorer/169578-s
olution-file-directory-c-secure-corrupt-unreadable-after-installing-ie7.
html

 

Also look at this one, 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3

 

Has not happened to me, but MS provides free support for Service packs
and patches.

 

From: Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Problem with installation of SP3

 

 

 

 

I was attempting to install the Windows XP SP3 on my laptop and got the
following error:

"The file or directory c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.  Please
run the Chkdsk utility."

 

I backed out of SP3 and run chkdsk and found nothing, on reboot; I
received an error that there was no Paging File.  I attempted to
recreate it but I still get the error on reboots.

 

I am also still getting the c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.

 

Has anyone else had this problem with SP3 and found a workaround.  From
Google, it appears to be an IE7 issue, but I don't have IE7 installed.

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

-Steve Nelligan

 

Steven M. Nelligan

 

 

 

 

 






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RE: Problem with installation of SP3

[Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)]

 
 
Not running Norton, running McAfee...
 
But If I ever get this system back, I will download SP3 and then disable
McAfee
 
 



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3



Are you running AV at the time you do the upgrade? 

 

I have seen numerous threads on the Internet about download of IE7.
which is apart of SP3, and Norton being the root of the problem. 

 

Take a look 

 

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1302886&page=3

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3

 

Has not happened to me, but MS provides free support for Service packs
and patches.

 

From: Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Problem with installation of SP3

 

 

 

 

I was attempting to install the Windows XP SP3 on my laptop and got the
following error:

"The file or directory c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.  Please
run the Chkdsk utility."

 

I backed out of SP3 and run chkdsk and found nothing, on reboot; I
received an error that there was no Paging File.  I attempted to
recreate it but I still get the error on reboots.

 

I am also still getting the c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.

 

Has anyone else had this problem with SP3 and found a workaround.  From
Google, it appears to be an IE7 issue, but I don't have IE7 installed.

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

-Steve Nelligan

 

Steven M. Nelligan

 

 

 

 

 






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RE: WiFi setup

[Chyka, Robert]

Do you have any good reference sites or docs on how to design and engineer this?

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: "Marc Maiffret" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: 6/30/08 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi systems
and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection mechanisms
such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
attacks. 

Marc Maiffret
Founder/CEO
Invenio Security
Security Services & Training
http://www.inveniosecurity.com


> -Original Message-
> From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: WiFi setup
> 
> I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> Yeah.
> I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
> floors?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> 
> 



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RE: WiFi setup

[Marc Maiffret]

Do not forget to use IPSEC or related to secure access between WiFi systems
and your main network. Almost all of the built-in WiFi protection mechanisms
such as MAC filtering, WEP, disabling broadcast, etc are all prone to
attacks. 

Marc Maiffret
Founder/CEO
Invenio Security
Security Services & Training
http://www.inveniosecurity.com


> -Original Message-
> From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: WiFi setup
> 
> I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> Yeah.
> I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
> datacenter will have to have WiFi built in
> I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
> floors?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
> 
> 



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RE: Problem with installation of SP3

[Ziots, Edward]

Are you running AV at the time you do the upgrade? 

 

I have seen numerous threads on the Internet about download of IE7.
which is apart of SP3, and Norton being the root of the problem. 

 

Take a look 

 

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1302886&page=3

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3

 

Has not happened to me, but MS provides free support for Service packs
and patches.

 

From: Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Problem with installation of SP3

 

 

 

 

I was attempting to install the Windows XP SP3 on my laptop and got the
following error:

"The file or directory c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.  Please
run the Chkdsk utility."

 

I backed out of SP3 and run chkdsk and found nothing, on reboot; I
received an error that there was no Paging File.  I attempted to
recreate it but I still get the error on reboots.

 

I am also still getting the c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.

 

Has anyone else had this problem with SP3 and found a workaround.  From
Google, it appears to be an IE7 issue, but I don't have IE7 installed.

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

-Steve Nelligan

 

Steven M. Nelligan

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 30 Jun 2008 at 10:01, Sherry Abercrombie  wrote:

> I can remember 3 major events in my life during the 80's.Graduation,
> marriage, divorce. 

I got married during the '80s but don't remember a thing about that day except 
that I felt like the light at the end of the tunnel *_WAS_* an oncoming train 
...

Still hitched to the same gal, so the train must have missed.


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




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R: Problem with installation of SP3

[HELP_PC]

It looks a good solution is ghosting the disk to a new one .Norton Ghost has an 
option to go on even if the source has errors. This should be a NTFS metadata 
error on MFT table
 
GuidoElia
HELPPC
 

  _  

Da: Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: lunedì 30 giugno 2008 19.07
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: Problem with installation of SP3


 
 
 
I was attempting to install the Windows XP SP3 on my laptop and got the 
following error:
"The file or directory c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.  Please run 
the Chkdsk utility."
 
I backed out of SP3 and run chkdsk and found nothing, on reboot; I received an 
error that there was no Paging File.  I attempted to recreate it but I still 
get the error on reboots.
 
I am also still getting the c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.
 
Has anyone else had this problem with SP3 and found a workaround.  From Google, 
it appears to be an IE7 issue, but I don't have IE7 installed.
 
Thanks in advance for any help,
-Steve Nelligan
 
Steven M. Nelligan
 






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RE: Problem with installation of SP3

[Ziots, Edward]

http://www.technologyquestions.com/technology/internet-explorer/169578-s
olution-file-directory-c-secure-corrupt-unreadable-after-installing-ie7.
html

 

Also look at this one, 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Problem with installation of SP3

 

Has not happened to me, but MS provides free support for Service packs
and patches.

 

From: Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Problem with installation of SP3

 

 

 

 

I was attempting to install the Windows XP SP3 on my laptop and got the
following error:

"The file or directory c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.  Please
run the Chkdsk utility."

 

I backed out of SP3 and run chkdsk and found nothing, on reboot; I
received an error that there was no Paging File.  I attempted to
recreate it but I still get the error on reboots.

 

I am also still getting the c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.

 

Has anyone else had this problem with SP3 and found a workaround.  From
Google, it appears to be an IE7 issue, but I don't have IE7 installed.

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

-Steve Nelligan

 

Steven M. Nelligan

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Problem with installation of SP3

[gsweers]

Has not happened to me, but MS provides free support for Service packs
and patches.

 

From: Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Problem with installation of SP3

 

 

 

 

I was attempting to install the Windows XP SP3 on my laptop and got the
following error:

"The file or directory c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.  Please
run the Chkdsk utility."

 

I backed out of SP3 and run chkdsk and found nothing, on reboot; I
received an error that there was no Paging File.  I attempted to
recreate it but I still get the error on reboots.

 

I am also still getting the c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.

 

Has anyone else had this problem with SP3 and found a workaround.  From
Google, it appears to be an IE7 issue, but I don't have IE7 installed.

 

Thanks in advance for any help,

-Steve Nelligan

 

Steven M. Nelligan

 

 

 

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Problem with installation of SP3

[Nelligan, Steve M (Facilities & Services)]

 
 
 
I was attempting to install the Windows XP SP3 on my laptop and got the
following error:
"The file or directory c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.  Please
run the Chkdsk utility."
 
I backed out of SP3 and run chkdsk and found nothing, on reboot; I
received an error that there was no Paging File.  I attempted to
recreate it but I still get the error on reboots.
 
I am also still getting the c:\$Secure is corrupt and unreadable.
 
Has anyone else had this problem with SP3 and found a workaround.  From
Google, it appears to be an IE7 issue, but I don't have IE7 installed.
 
Thanks in advance for any help,
-Steve Nelligan
 
Steven M. Nelligan
 

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RE: Treo 700wx question

[Joe Heaton]

ummm, I think I've used it before, but that may be a good question...
 
Joe Heaton
 



From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Treo 700wx question



Did you try formatting it on your PC first?

 

Christopher J. Bosak

Vector Company

c. 847.603.4673

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:21 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Treo 700wx question

 

Anyone have problems getting an SDRam card to work?  I pop one into my
phone and it says "Not enough memory to install driver" even though
there's almost the original memory amount available...

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 






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RE: portable printers

[Kyle Plummer]

We use HP DeskJet 460 (and previously the 450) model for our audit staff. They 
do not print as much since we have gone paperless, but we've rarely had any 
problems with them. We usually wear out the rollers on them well before they 
break. They've held up well (along with the Fujitsu S300 and LinkSys WRT54G 
routers) despite being used (abused even) on a daily basis.

Kyle B. Plummer
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: portable printers

We deployed the Canon IP90's a while back with battery packs. One user even
does infrared printing with it.  We also tested the HP with a battery pack
and didn't really have any complaints. The Canon was slimmer and fit nicer
into our rolling laptops bags. 

I don't know how much they get used but they were "gotta haves" at the time.
Never had to replace or service one so that's either a good sign or an
indication they aren't used...not quite sure which. :)

 - Andy O. 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: portable printers

Anyone have a good review of any portable printers out there?  We have a
marketing guy that's on the road quite a bit, and wants to be able to print
from his vehicle if need be.  This is not an absolute requirement, but an
option...  I've looked at HP and I believe Lexmark.  Neither received higher
than 8/10.  Any other ones I should look at?
 
Thanks,
 
Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
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RE: Treo 700wx question

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Did you try formatting it on your PC first?

 

Christopher J. Bosak

Vector Company

c. 847.603.4673

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:21 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Treo 700wx question

 

Anyone have problems getting an SDRam card to work?  I pop one into my phone
and it says "Not enough memory to install driver" even though there's almost
the original memory amount available...

 

Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

 

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Treo 700wx question

[Joe Heaton]

Anyone have problems getting an SDRam card to work?  I pop one into my
phone and it says "Not enough memory to install driver" even though
there's almost the original memory amount available...
 
Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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RE: portable printers

[Andy Ognenoff]

We deployed the Canon IP90’s a while back with battery packs. One user even
does infrared printing with it.  We also tested the HP with a battery pack
and didn’t really have any complaints. The Canon was slimmer and fit nicer
into our rolling laptops bags. 

I don’t know how much they get used but they were "gotta haves" at the time.
Never had to replace or service one so that’s either a good sign or an
indication they aren't used...not quite sure which. :)

 - Andy O. 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: portable printers

Anyone have a good review of any portable printers out there?  We have a
marketing guy that's on the road quite a bit, and wants to be able to print
from his vehicle if need be.  This is not an absolute requirement, but an
option...  I've looked at HP and I believe Lexmark.  Neither received higher
than 8/10.  Any other ones I should look at?
 
Thanks,
 
Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
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portable printers

[Joe Heaton]

Anyone have a good review of any portable printers out there?  We have a
marketing guy that's on the road quite a bit, and wants to be able to
print from his vehicle if need be.  This is not an absolute requirement,
but an option...  I've looked at HP and I believe Lexmark.  Neither
received higher than 8/10.  Any other ones I should look at?
 
Thanks,
 
Joe Heaton
AISA
Employment Training Panel
1100 J Street, 4th Floor
Sacramento, CA  95814
(916) 327-5276
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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RE: WiFi setup

[Phillip Partipilo]

But macs are easily spoofed.  Any determined attacker would be sniffing the
airwaves to snag a mac thats accessing the network and would spoof it to get
around that barrier.  All MAC filtering would do is add administrative
overhead.
 
 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 
 

  _  

From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup


And use MAC address filtering...


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use VPN
from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other
security measures)

  _  

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: WiFi setup


I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter
will have to have WiFi built in
I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
floors?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: WiFi setup

[Erik Goldoff]

Ideally financial institutions should use a TS/Citrix type solution as one
'layer of the onion' to provide secure application access, rather than local
application execution with confidential data traversing the networks, adding
this to a wifi subnet if needed should be simple.   Layered security
controls are definitely more secure than any single approach.

  _  

From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup



Agreed. 

 

But I’d personally keep the confidential data off the wireless all together.
If Joe Employee needs his laptop to go on the internet, then he can hop on
the wireless and stay off the main network. That way, his laptop never sees
customer data (and why should it need to for a bank)?

 

Christopher J. Bosak

Vector Company

c. 847.603.4673

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:07 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 

I agree.

MAC filtering is a pain to maintain and provides very little, if any,
security.

# 1 on George Ou’s six dumbest ways to secure wireless list.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

Now granted, you’ve not said what the purpose for this wireless is so maybe
you don’t need much security.

If it is for guests to web surf, put it on a separate vlan, give it internet
access and be done with it.

If it is for users and confidential credit union data, secure it as much as
possible.

Good luck.

 

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I was messing around with cracking APs and its pretty easy to clone the MACs
of devices connected to the AP to gain access when they are using MAC
filtering. 

- Original Message - 

From: David W. McSpadden   

To: NT System Admin Issues   

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I have been getting the MAC's from all the other devices on the WAN.  We are
greating VLAN 127.  It is the default vlan and will get to the internet
only. If you don't have a MAC on the ACL you get a 127 dhcp address and
pumped to the internet only.

It isn't fully functional yet but it is coming.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Steve Ens   

To: NT System Admin   Issues 

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

And use MAC address filtering...

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use VPN
from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other
security measures)

 

  _  

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: WiFi setup

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter
will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Watching VH1's "I Love the 80's" shows can be quite a flashback inducer.


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Sherry Abercrombie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I can remember 3 major events in my life during the 80's.  Graduation,
> marriage, divorce.
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> wrote:
>>
>> On 30 Jun 2008 at 7:25, Martin Blackstone  wrote:
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>> > Martin Blackstone would like to recall the 80´s
>>
>> Can't remember a thing about them.
>>
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WINXP machine account

[aci]

TIA for any and all ideas...

I have an XP workstation that was in the process of being renamed and joined to 
the domain when it encountered a duplicate name on the network issue. Bottom 
line, I have now have an XP workstation that I can not log into, as the machine 
account as it is either out of sync with the domain, or not found. I do not 
have the local admin password either. I had it (set it myself) but I have a 
feeling that there is no admin account yet established with a password as the 
domain enforces a 6 character minimum, and the new password is probably blank. 
I tried UBCD tools disk to reset the local admin password. It looks like its 
working, but I still can not log on. Any ideas?

Thanks,
aci
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RE: WiFi setup

[Christopher J. Bosak]

Agreed. 

 

But I'd personally keep the confidential data off the wireless all together.
If Joe Employee needs his laptop to go on the internet, then he can hop on
the wireless and stay off the main network. That way, his laptop never sees
customer data (and why should it need to for a bank)?

 

Christopher J. Bosak

Vector Company

c. 847.603.4673

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."

- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:07 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 

I agree.

MAC filtering is a pain to maintain and provides very little, if any,
security.

# 1 on George Ou's six dumbest ways to secure wireless list.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

Now granted, you've not said what the purpose for this wireless is so maybe
you don't need much security.

If it is for guests to web surf, put it on a separate vlan, give it internet
access and be done with it.

If it is for users and confidential credit union data, secure it as much as
possible.

Good luck.

 

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I was messing around with cracking APs and its pretty easy to clone the MACs
of devices connected to the AP to gain access when they are using MAC
filtering. 

- Original Message - 

From: David W. McSpadden   

To: NT System Admin Issues   

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I have been getting the MAC's from all the other devices on the WAN.  We are
greating VLAN 127.  It is the default vlan and will get to the internet
only. If you don't have a MAC on the ACL you get a 127 dhcp address and
pumped to the internet only.

It isn't fully functional yet but it is coming.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Steve Ens   

To: NT System Admin Issues   

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

And use MAC address filtering...

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use VPN
from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other
security measures)

 

  _  

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: WiFi setup

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter
will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: WiFi setup

[Carl Houseman]

+1 - Any security expert will tell you that MAC address filtering is nothing
more than placebo.

 

And if someone says otherwise, you need to doubt their "expert" status.

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I was messing around with cracking APs and its pretty easy to clone the MACs
of devices connected to the AP to gain access when they are using MAC
filtering. 

- Original Message - 

From: David W. McSpadden   

To: NT System Admin Issues   

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I have been getting the MAC's from all the other devices on the WAN.  We are
greating VLAN 127.  It is the default vlan and will get to the internet
only. If you don't have a MAC on the ACL you get a 127 dhcp address and
pumped to the internet only.

It isn't fully functional yet but it is coming.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Steve Ens   

To: NT System Admin Issues   

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

And use MAC address filtering...

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use VPN
from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other
security measures)

 

  _  

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: WiFi setup

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter
will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: WiFi setup

[Glen Johnson]

I agree.

MAC filtering is a pain to maintain and provides very little, if any,
security.

# 1 on George Ou's six dumbest ways to secure wireless list.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43

Now granted, you've not said what the purpose for this wireless is so
maybe you don't need much security.

If it is for guests to web surf, put it on a separate vlan, give it
internet access and be done with it.

If it is for users and confidential credit union data, secure it as much
as possible.

Good luck.

 

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I was messing around with cracking APs and its pretty easy to clone the
MACs of devices connected to the AP to gain access when they are using
MAC filtering. 

- Original Message - 

From: David W. McSpadden   

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:08 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

I have been getting the MAC's from all the other devices on the
WAN.  We are greating VLAN 127.  It is the default vlan and will get to
the internet only. If you don't have a MAC on the ACL you get a 127 dhcp
address and pumped to the internet only.

It isn't fully functional yet but it is coming.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Steve Ens   

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:06 AM

Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

And use MAC address filtering...

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

and for security in a credit union environment, segment
the wifi and use VPN from there to get in to the resources on the wired
subnet (among other security measures)

 



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: WiFi setup

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit
Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that
the new datacenter will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was
coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft
building with 3 floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

[Sherry Abercrombie]

I can remember 3 major events in my life during the 80's.  Graduation,
marriage, divorce.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On 30 Jun 2008 at 7:25, Martin Blackstone  wrote:
>
> > Martin Blackstone would like to recall the 80´s
>
> Can't remember a thing about them.
>
> --
> Angus Scott-Fleming
> GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
> 1-520-290-5038
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RE: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 30 Jun 2008 at 7:25, Martin Blackstone  wrote:

> Martin Blackstone would like to recall the 80´s

Can't remember a thing about them.

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Re: WiFi setup

[James Kerr]

I was messing around with cracking APs and its pretty easy to clone the MACs of 
devices connected to the AP to gain access when they are using MAC filtering. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: David W. McSpadden 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:08 AM
  Subject: Re: WiFi setup


  I have been getting the MAC's from all the other devices on the WAN.  We are 
greating VLAN 127.  It is the default vlan and will get to the internet only. 
If you don't have a MAC on the ACL you get a 127 dhcp address and pumped to the 
internet only.
  It isn't fully functional yet but it is coming.

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Ens 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: WiFi setup


And use MAC address filtering...


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use 
VPN from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other 
security measures)



--
  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM 

  To: NT System Admin Issues

  Subject: WiFi setup


  I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
  Yeah.
  I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter 
will have to have WiFi built in
  I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
  Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 
floors?







  Data Security is everyone's responsibility.




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RE: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

[Steve Kelsay]

Oops. Wrong recall, should have been an internal message. Sorry.

 

From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

 

No, you can't have it back!



From: Steve Kelsay 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Mon Jun 30 10:18:37 2008
Subject: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question 

Steve Kelsay would like to recall the message, "Nod 32 & developer machine 
question". 

 

 





 

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RE: Nod 32 & developer machine question

[Steve Kelsay]

1.0.14 for the remote console, 2.7 for the local console. 

 

We should have IMON turned off entirely, but apparently someone has it
running. Sorry about the recall notice, it should have been for the
internal email I sent out. It is interesting that the recall shows up,
even if not intended. 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Nod 32 & developer machine question

 

What version of NOD you on?

 

Shook



From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Nod 32 & developer machine question

 

I have a developer that claims the IMON in NOD32 is interfering with her
program calls.  Are there any NOD32 experts out there that can tell me
if we can put exceptions into the IMON that would allow her calls to go
through, or somehow allow them to go through some other way?

 

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[Kelsey, John]

I would agree with Shook, sounds like an STP problem.  Make sure you
don't have 'spanning-tree portfast' turned on for the uplink ports.

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-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 18:09
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...


Too late, unfortunately - I'm now at work dealing with downed air
conditioning, after putting the switches all back together again on
Friday night.

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Andy Shook
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If not to late, would you please post the output of sh int  that is acting up> when your having the problem.  I've never seen a 
> Cisco switch with all ports throwing a protocol error, just single 
> ports here and there.  It "almost" sounds like a spanning-tree 
> problem...or a couple of bad switches.  Call the TAC if you have 
> smartnet or there less than a year old...
>
> Shook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:45 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Hoping to find someone tonight...
>
> Sorry - what I wrote below is a little misleading.
>
> I had a console attached to the 2948T-48s - they were the ones 
> reporting the protocol error. I didn't see much on the 3400cl.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> The link light would appear for a short while, then disappear, and 
>> output in the console window talked about a protocol error. For each 
>> and every one of the ports to which a 2950T-48 was attached. And, for

>> one of those ports, I undid the cable for the 2950T-24, and hooked a 
>> 2950T-48 into it. No go.
>>
>> Same exact cables, because the 2948G-L3 that we're replacing is less 
>> than 1U away from the HP 3400cl that's replacing it. I just took the 
>> cables from their ports on the 2948G-L3 and plugged them into the 
>> 3400cl.
>>
>> I also power cycled all switches, in sequence. Nothing.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Phil Brutsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>> No link?
>>>
>>> No link at *all*?
>>>
>>> Even with known-good cables?
>>>
>>> Generally speaking I've only ever seen that when one or both sides 
>>> of the link has bad ports.
>>>
>>> The only other time I've seen a Cisco switch not show an active link

>>> with a known-good cable is when the port is in the "shutdown" state,
> and
>>> I'm sure you've considered that possibility.
>>>
>>> Kurt Buff wrote:
 Their link lights aren't even lit. Nothing. Nada. I power cycled
> both
 the 2950Ts and the 3400cl, with no luck.
>>>
>>> --
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I have not followed it since we implemented it….not many people using it so it 
didn’t seem worth it. Good tip though, I will look into that……tyvm.




From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

Ok.
That makes sense.
I don't have any right now so I am only 'book' smart.
I think .n is supposed to be seemless.
- Original Message -
From: Kennedy, Jim
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:16 AM
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

.g


From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

You on .n?
- Original Message -
From: Kennedy, Jim
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

I second that, the survey to see where to put them is key.

We are having very good luck using certs on our roamers and then radius 
authentication via Cisco 1200 using the certs. So no one can connect to our 
AP’s unless they are a domain computer and they are in the OU that issues the 
cert. One downside is that you do not get seamless authentication between AP’s. 
So as they roam there is a second or two of offline before the new AP 
authenticates their cert….they have gotten used to it.





From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup


Spend the money on a professional survey to see where your access points need 
to be, it'll save you loads of aggravation.


From: David W. McSpadden
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Mon Jun 30 09:50:51 2008
Subject: WiFi setup
I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter will 
have to have WiFi built in
I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 floors?







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RE: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

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Re: WiFi setup

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k
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Shook 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:18 AM
  Subject: RE: WiFi setup


  OK 

  Just went through this and we moved into a new building back in February.  My 
council is go ahead and cable for "general AP placement" with generous service 
loops while the building is being cabled.  Then wait until you move in and get 
settled b\c you have no idea how your wireless signal is going to behave until 
after you move in; i.e. get a site survey done.  Definitely do PoE switches and 
Cat6 cabling.  Lastly, feel free to ping me off list and I'll be more than 
happy to share some lessons learned in my process of designing a new building 
with a new data center.  

   



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  Brand new.  Haven't even got the floor plans ironed out yet.

   

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From: Andy Shook 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:01 AM

Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 

D,

Is this a new or existing building?  

 

Shook




From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WiFi setup

 

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter 
will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 
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Re: WiFi setup

[David W. McSpadden]

Ok.
That makes sense.
I don't have any right now so I am only 'book' smart.
I think .n is supposed to be seemless.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kennedy, Jim 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:16 AM
  Subject: RE: WiFi setup


  .g

   

   

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:11 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: WiFi setup

   

  You on .n?

- Original Message - 

From: Kennedy, Jim 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:10 AM

Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 

I second that, the survey to see where to put them is key.

 

We are having very good luck using certs on our roamers and then radius 
authentication via Cisco 1200 using the certs. So no one can connect to our 
AP’s unless they are a domain computer and they are in the OU that issues the 
cert. One downside is that you do not get seamless authentication between AP’s. 
So as they roam there is a second or two of offline before the new AP 
authenticates their cert….they have gotten used to it.

 

 

 

 

 

From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

Spend the money on a professional survey to see where your access points 
need to be, it'll save you loads of aggravation. 




From: David W. McSpadden 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Mon Jun 30 09:50:51 2008
Subject: WiFi setup 

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter 
will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 
floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

[John Cook]

No, you can't have it back!


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Subject: Recall: Nod 32 & developer machine question

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RE: Nod 32 & developer machine question

[Andy Shook]

What version of NOD you on?

 

Shook



From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Nod 32 & developer machine question

 

I have a developer that claims the IMON in NOD32 is interfering with her
program calls.  Are there any NOD32 experts out there that can tell me
if we can put exceptions into the IMON that would allow her calls to go
through, or somehow allow them to go through some other way?

 

I really do not want to disable my internet virus monitor. 

 

 

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[Steve Kelsay]

Steve Kelsay would like to recall the message, "Nod 32 & developer machine 
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RE: WiFi setup

[Andy Shook]

OK 

Just went through this and we moved into a new building back in
February.  My council is go ahead and cable for "general AP placement"
with generous service loops while the building is being cabled.  Then
wait until you move in and get settled b\c you have no idea how your
wireless signal is going to behave until after you move in; i.e. get a
site survey done.  Definitely do PoE switches and Cat6 cabling.  Lastly,
feel free to ping me off list and I'll be more than happy to share some
lessons learned in my process of designing a new building with a new
data center.  

 

 

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From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

Brand new.  Haven't even got the floor plans ironed out yet.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Andy Shook   

To: NT System Admin Issues
  

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:01 AM

Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 

D,

Is this a new or existing building?  

 

Shook





From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WiFi setup

 

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
datacenter will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building
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RE: WiFi setup

[Kennedy, Jim]

.g


From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

You on .n?
- Original Message -
From: Kennedy, Jim
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: WiFi setup

I second that, the survey to see where to put them is key.

We are having very good luck using certs on our roamers and then radius 
authentication via Cisco 1200 using the certs. So no one can connect to our 
AP’s unless they are a domain computer and they are in the OU that issues the 
cert. One downside is that you do not get seamless authentication between AP’s. 
So as they roam there is a second or two of offline before the new AP 
authenticates their cert….they have gotten used to it.





From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup


Spend the money on a professional survey to see where your access points need 
to be, it'll save you loads of aggravation.


From: David W. McSpadden
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Mon Jun 30 09:50:51 2008
Subject: WiFi setup
I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter will 
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I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
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[Steve Kelsay]

I have a developer that claims the IMON in NOD32 is interfering with her
program calls.  Are there any NOD32 experts out there that can tell me
if we can put exceptions into the IMON that would allow her calls to go
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Re: WiFi setup

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You on .n?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kennedy, Jim 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:10 AM
  Subject: RE: WiFi setup


  I second that, the survey to see where to put them is key.

   

  We are having very good luck using certs on our roamers and then radius 
authentication via Cisco 1200 using the certs. So no one can connect to our 
AP’s unless they are a domain computer and they are in the OU that issues the 
cert. One downside is that you do not get seamless authentication between AP’s. 
So as they roam there is a second or two of offline before the new AP 
authenticates their cert….they have gotten used to it.

   

   

   

   

   

  From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:00 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: WiFi setup

   

  Spend the money on a professional survey to see where your access points need 
to be, it'll save you loads of aggravation. 


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  From: David W. McSpadden 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Mon Jun 30 09:50:51 2008
  Subject: WiFi setup 

  I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

  Yeah.

  I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter 
will have to have WiFi built in

  I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

  Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 
floors?

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

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Re: WiFi setup

[David W. McSpadden]

Sub level, Main floor, and second story.
Right now (without floor plans) it comes to about 4000 sq ft.  Roughly 1335 
sqft a floor.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Martin Blackstone 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:07 AM
  Subject: RE: WiFi setup


  Is it really 3 stories tall and only 4000 sq ft?

   

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:02 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: WiFi setup

   

  Brand new.  Haven't even got the floor plans ironed out yet.

   

- Original Message - 

From: Andy Shook 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:01 AM

Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 

D,

Is this a new or existing building?  

 

Shook




From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WiFi setup

 

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter 
will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 
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RE: WiFi setup

[Kennedy, Jim]

I second that, the survey to see where to put them is key.

We are having very good luck using certs on our roamers and then radius 
authentication via Cisco 1200 using the certs. So no one can connect to our 
AP’s unless they are a domain computer and they are in the OU that issues the 
cert. One downside is that you do not get seamless authentication between AP’s. 
So as they roam there is a second or two of offline before the new AP 
authenticates their cert….they have gotten used to it.





From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup


Spend the money on a professional survey to see where your access points need 
to be, it'll save you loads of aggravation.


From: David W. McSpadden
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Mon Jun 30 09:50:51 2008
Subject: WiFi setup
I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter will 
have to have WiFi built in
I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 floors?







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Re: WiFi setup

[David W. McSpadden]

I have been getting the MAC's from all the other devices on the WAN.  We are 
greating VLAN 127.  It is the default vlan and will get to the internet only. 
If you don't have a MAC on the ACL you get a 127 dhcp address and pumped to the 
internet only.
It isn't fully functional yet but it is coming.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve Ens 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:06 AM
  Subject: Re: WiFi setup


  And use MAC address filtering...


  On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use 
VPN from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other 
security measures)




From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: WiFi setup


I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter 
will have to have WiFi built in
I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 
floors?







Data Security is everyone's responsibility.




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RE: New SAN Selection Question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I was just going to say this. Xiotech has some really great technology, and 
integrates with ESX as well if not better than all the others.
Tim

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New SAN Selection Question


I highly recommend adding Xiotech to the list. Their new "ISE" based SAN 
(specifically look at the Emprise 7000) is impressive. Played with it at 
Storage World in Orlando last month, and was highly impressed.




"Jeffrey Showen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

06/29/2008 06:57 PM
Please respond to
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To

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Subject

New SAN Selection Question







I'm looking for a methodology to evaluate new Storage Area Network solutions 
for our enterprise environment.  We have tight power, weight, and support 
requirements and have narrowed the field to 8 vendors based on a variety of 
these (and other) threshold requirements.  The challenge now is that the vendor 
submissions/solutions are mostly so close to each other that a paper evaluation 
fails to significantly differentiate them.  We are on a tight schedule 
(management - don't ask) and it looks like we will end up testing I/O on 
solutions from all 8 vendors (Dell, EMC, IBM, NetApp, LeftHand Networks, Sun, 
Overland, HP).

We are an ESX shop - is it enough to just configure the eval SANs (the same) 
for our environment and then run Iometer tests from a client to the primary 
SAN(s) or is there a better or more thorough approach?  We want to use 
mirroring/replication at the SAN level between redundant SANs for high 
availability but that can get expensive so I am open to any ideas here as well.

I know this is a big question with sketchy details but there are a lot of 
moving parts and I was just wondering if someone had done this and could 
provide insight.

Thanks

Jeff Showen
iGov Systems Engineer
Tampa, FL 33619

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RE: WiFi setup

[Martin Blackstone]

Is it really 3 stories tall and only 4000 sq ft?

 

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: WiFi setup

 

Brand new.  Haven't even got the floor plans ironed out yet.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Andy Shook   

To: NT System Admin Issues   

Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:01 AM

Subject: RE: WiFi setup

 

D,

Is this a new or existing building?  

 

Shook

  _  

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WiFi setup

 

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter
will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: WiFi setup

[Benjamin Zachary - Lists]

Wireless and Credit do not go together :-)

 

Wireless N is out in the 'home' markets and it works reasonable well, but I
haven't tried doing anything like jumping spots. Most people use commercial
grade products like Cisco devices, which have POE for easier deployment and
can bridge or hotspot depending on your needs. You also can roam access
points with that type of setup. Im sure wimax and others make similar stuff
but I have only used 3com (802.11b originally) and then cisco for commercial
locations with multiple units. 

 

 

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From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WiFi setup

 

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter
will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Data Security is everyone's responsibility.

 

 

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Re: WiFi setup

[Steve Ens]

And use MAC address filtering...

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Erik Goldoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use
> VPN from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other
> security measures)
>
>  --
> *From:* David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* WiFi setup
>
>  I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
> Yeah.
> I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter
> will have to have WiFi built in
> I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
> Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
> floors?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Data Security is everyone's responsibility.
>
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> Virus Database: 270.4.3/1526 - Release Date: 6/30/2008 8:43 AM
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Re: WiFi setup

[David W. McSpadden]

Brand new.  Haven't even got the floor plans ironed out yet.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Shook 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:01 AM
  Subject: RE: WiFi setup


  D,

  Is this a new or existing building?  

   

  Shook


--

  From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: WiFi setup

   

  I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

  Yeah.

  I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter 
will have to have WiFi built in

  I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

  Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 
floors?

   

   

   

   

   

   

   

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RE: WiFi setup

[Andy Shook]

D,

Is this a new or existing building?  

 

Shook



From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WiFi setup

 

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.

Yeah.

I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new
datacenter will have to have WiFi built in

I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.

Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
floors?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: WiFi setup

[Erik Goldoff]

and for security in a credit union environment, segment the wifi and use VPN
from there to get in to the resources on the wired subnet (among other
security measures)

  _  

From: David W. McSpadden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WiFi setup


I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter
will have to have WiFi built in
I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3
floors?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: WiFi setup

[John Cook]

Spend the money on a professional survey to see where your access points need 
to be, it'll save you loads of aggravation.


From: David W. McSpadden
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Mon Jun 30 09:50:51 2008
Subject: WiFi setup

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter will 
have to have WiFi built in
I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 floors?







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WiFi setup

[David W. McSpadden]

I get to build a whole new datacenter for the Credit Union.
Yeah.
I am pretty good on everything with the exception that the new datacenter will 
have to have WiFi built in
I am looking at 802.11g for now but I thought n was coming out.
Does anyone have any comments on how to WiFi a 4000sqft building with 3 floors?







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