RE: DPM issue

[Bob Fronk]

No, but I keep getting the "retryable VSS error".  But good luck finding 
resolutions for DPM.  Information seems to be limited on the intertubes.

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DPM issue

Anyone ever come across this issue - Recovery Manager was unable to create a 
Recovery Point. Unknown error(-1). It is only happening to one server I'm 
protecting and oddly enough it's the only server in the same subnet.
TIA
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
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RE: NDTS KCC Errors

[Brian Desmond]

Sounds like you have a ForestDnsZones NC defined in your forest but it isn't 
actually replicated anywhere. You can use ntdsutil to cleanup the orphan NC and 
then use the DNS MMC (or dnscmd) to recreate it.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NDTS KCC Errors

We have been receiving this error in the Directory Service, in Event Viewer, 
for a couple of weeks and I haven't been able to determine what would be 
causing this.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

[cid:image001.png@01C98850.78158FD0]

We have three different sites, one of the sites hasn't been added to the forest 
yet.  The DC's at two of the sites can see each other and replicate any AD 
changes.

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Re: Friday OT: Demotivational poster of the week

[Steve Pruitt]

http://despair.com/government.html


- Original Message - 
From: "Angus Scott-Fleming" 

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:22 AM
Subject: Friday OT: Demotivational poster of the week



OK, what's everybody's favorite (de)motivational poster?

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/misspelling-it-still-
matters-alot-demotivational-poster.jpg


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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[John Hornbuckle]

Agreed.

I think IT guys understand, conceptually, that businesses want to make 
money--but they're hazy on the practicalities of using technology to that end. 
IT people have tended to push technology for the sake of technology. Businesses 
bought the hype for a long time, spending a bunch of money on hardware and 
software projects that did little for their bottom line even if the projects 
were successful. But to make matters worse, way too many IT projects AREN'T 
successful--the failure rate in our industry is astounding.

Well, the party's over. Not only are businesses tired of that routine, but they 
simply can't afford to continue it. IT professionals in the coming years are 
going to have to have skills that extend beyond the technical realm and into 
the business and project management realm. That's why I'm investing in my 
education now; I want to be in a position where I can play the game as the 
landscape shifts.




-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, John Hornbuckle
 wrote:
> This is critical because there has traditionally been
> somewhat of a disconnect between business and IT ...

  I find there is somewhat of a disconnect between business and most people.

  It's really quite astounding how many people don't understand that
the purpose of a business is to make money, and anything that's not
advancing that goal is bad for business.

-- Ben

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RE: Application Downtime Survey

[Ken Wallewein]

We're a small IT services company with a lot of clients.  We have a lot
of computers under our care, but our viewpoint is that of a small
business.  How does your survey handle that?

/kenw

-Original Message-
From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbeltsoftware.comt] 
Sent: February-06-09 1:51 PM
To: Ken Wallewein
Subject: Application Downtime Survey

Hello NTSYSADMIN Subscribers, 

We hope that 2009 is off to a good start for all of you, without any
server 
or application downtime anywhere. We'd like to invite you to participate

in the latest joint ITIC/Sunbelt Software survey. The topic of this
survey 
is Application Availability and the impact on your organization. It
should 
only take a few minutes of your time to answer the 10 multiple choice
and 
one essay question.

We want your opinion! We want to hear what you have to say and we value
your 
feedback whether your organization is an SMB or a very large Enterprise.

So ITIC and Sunbelt will give away two (2) free iPods - one to the IT 
manager or executive at an SMB shop and another to the IT
manager/executive 
at a large enterprise who provides us with the most insightful comment
to 
Question 12 - the essay section on how your company handles Application 
Availability and its impact on your business. Be sure to include your 
Email address at the end of the comment section so we can notify you if 
you're one of the lucky winners. All responses will be kept confidential

and no salesperson will call to solicit you. And as always, anyone who 
completes the survey can contact Laura DiDio at: ldi...@itic-corp.com 
to request a complimentary copy of the full Report once it's published.
Thanks in advance !! Stu Sjouwerman & Laura DiDio. Here is the link: 

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=zyuMvU0Cjr0J31bEax7VHA_3d_3d 

Thanks in advance!

Warm regards,

Stu
NTSYSADMIN List Manager


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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Troy Meyer]

Ok to those of you that don't follow the links from Wserver news

http://www.flixxy.com/cars-and-drivers.htm


btw Stu, really like the live.sunbeltsoftware.com setup.  Really good idea.

-troy

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and 
sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of 
imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the fail train AND the 
thread that wont die.



Seriously, what happened to Friday funny?

-troy 


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Beer = men

 

Shook

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

TVK is always down for free beer..

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email: ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone: 401-639-3505

MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

I'm there...As long as you're buying Sherry. J

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there 
now..

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 


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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Michael B. Smith]

Sorry, I've been on the road all day. I'll get something out in just a few
minutes  :-)

(Not that I'm the only poster of Friday funnies...)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php


-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight
and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are
that of imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the fail
train AND the thread that wont die.



Seriously, what happened to Friday funny?

-troy 


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Beer = men

 

Shook

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

TVK is always down for free beer..

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email: ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone: 401-639-3505

MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

I'm there...As long as you're buying Sherry. J

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there
now..

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 


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Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:42 PM, John Hornbuckle
 wrote:
> This is critical because there has traditionally been
> somewhat of a disconnect between business and IT ...

  I find there is somewhat of a disconnect between business and most people.

  It's really quite astounding how many people don't understand that
the purpose of a business is to make money, and anything that's not
advancing that goal is bad for business.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Troy Meyer]

You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and 
sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of 
imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the fail train AND the 
thread that wont die.



Seriously, what happened to Friday funny?

-troy 


-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Beer = men

 

Shook

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

TVK is always down for free beer..

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email: ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone: 401-639-3505

MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

I'm there...As long as you're buying Sherry. J

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there 
now..

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 


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RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[Cameron Cooper]

We had it somewhat setup years ago... but then we retired that server
and never got around to setting it back up again.

___
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IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS

Appreciate the feedback from everyone... I was hoping someone out there
is
using CPS, lol.  Ah well.

I too run full backups at the end of each week.  What bugs me is, I know
that most of the data that is backed up every Friday in the full backup
has
NOT changed since the previous full backup.  Which means we end up
having a
lot of duplicate data on our tapes... Any thoughts on an easy way to
combat
this?  

For example, if on a Friday my full backup is 1TB, and of that 500GB
hasn't
changed ONE BIT since last Friday, it kinda sucks that I still end up
backing up that data again and again and again each week...   I was
under
the assumption CPS would address that kind of thing. ?



-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS

Out of curiosity...

Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis,
or
monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are
you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an
incremental
or differential backup?

Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec
things
IMHO).

Just wondering what others are doing out there
Thanks




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Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

I just dont like the idea of carrying that many incrementals around between
full backups.:(
 


Original Message:
-
From: Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:45:14 -0600
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS


Why not just do incremental backups instead of full?

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
wrote:

> Appreciate the feedback from everyone... I was hoping someone out there is
> using CPS, lol.  Ah well.
>
> I too run full backups at the end of each week.  What bugs me is, I know
> that most of the data that is backed up every Friday in the full backup
has
> NOT changed since the previous full backup.  Which means we end up having
a
> lot of duplicate data on our tapes... Any thoughts on an easy way to
combat
> this?
>
> For example, if on a Friday my full backup is 1TB, and of that 500GB
hasn't
> changed ONE BIT since last Friday, it kinda sucks that I still end up
> backing up that data again and again and again each week...   I was under
> the assumption CPS would address that kind of thing. ?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS
>
> Out of curiosity...
>
> Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis,
> or
> monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are
> you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an
> incremental
> or differential backup?
>
> Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
> Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
> expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec
> things
> IMHO).
>
> Just wondering what others are doing out there
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 
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Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[Steve Ens]

Why not just do incremental backups instead of full?

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:40 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
wrote:

> Appreciate the feedback from everyone... I was hoping someone out there is
> using CPS, lol.  Ah well.
>
> I too run full backups at the end of each week.  What bugs me is, I know
> that most of the data that is backed up every Friday in the full backup has
> NOT changed since the previous full backup.  Which means we end up having a
> lot of duplicate data on our tapes... Any thoughts on an easy way to combat
> this?
>
> For example, if on a Friday my full backup is 1TB, and of that 500GB hasn't
> changed ONE BIT since last Friday, it kinda sucks that I still end up
> backing up that data again and again and again each week...   I was under
> the assumption CPS would address that kind of thing. ?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS
>
> Out of curiosity...
>
> Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis,
> or
> monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are
> you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an
> incremental
> or differential backup?
>
> Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
> Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
> expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec
> things
> IMHO).
>
> Just wondering what others are doing out there
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 
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RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

Appreciate the feedback from everyone... I was hoping someone out there is
using CPS, lol.  Ah well.

I too run full backups at the end of each week.  What bugs me is, I know
that most of the data that is backed up every Friday in the full backup has
NOT changed since the previous full backup.  Which means we end up having a
lot of duplicate data on our tapes... Any thoughts on an easy way to combat
this?  

For example, if on a Friday my full backup is 1TB, and of that 500GB hasn't
changed ONE BIT since last Friday, it kinda sucks that I still end up
backing up that data again and again and again each week...   I was under
the assumption CPS would address that kind of thing. ?



-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS

Out of curiosity...

Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis,
or
monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are
you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an
incremental
or differential backup?

Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec
things
IMHO).

Just wondering what others are doing out there
Thanks




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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[John Hornbuckle]

Degrees are pricey, to be sure. I'm going to an "inexpensive" public 
university, but the program isn't cheap by any means. But it's an investment 
that will yield a return, and even a pricey degree is often worth the 
investment.

If the chart at 
http://www.earnmydegree.com/online-education/learning-center/education-value.html
 is accurate (it cites Census Bureau numbers), on average people with a 
Bachelor's degree earn over $1 million more in a lifetime than those with a 
high school diploma. On an annual basis, those with a Bachelor's earn around 
$20,000 more.

So let's say it costs $60,000 to get a Bachelor's. That's sounds fairly pricey, 
but statistically speaking you'll make your money back in three years and 
everything after that will be profit. It's a no-brainer.




From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

John,
I think that the relevance of college degrees in the 21st century will depend 
greatly on the cost of attending college either A) continuing to spiral out of 
control in relation to other costs or B) leveling off and then coming back into 
line with other costs of living. If option A bears out, then no one other than 
the extremely wealthy, will have college degrees 10 years from now.
YOMV,
TVK


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I think that trend will end, though, as we move forward in the 21st century. I 
suspect that more and more employers will expect the IT pros they hire to have 
degrees and the knowledge that (hopefully) comes with them.

The Master's I'm working on is in Management Information Systems. 
Interestingly, this program actually falls under the university's College of 
Business. The coursework focuses strongly on aligning IT skills with business 
needs-in fact, several of the courses we take are actually part of the MBA 
program. This is critical because there has traditionally been somewhat of a 
disconnect between business and IT, but companies in recent years have started 
to push much more strongly for business justifications for IT investments. IT 
pros are having to learn how to more closely integrate with the business side 
of things.




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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

They don't need to be free ever since I stole your identity.
:-P

From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Beer = men

Shook

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

TVK is always down for free beer..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I'm there...As long as you're buying Sherry. :)


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there 
now..

--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke




















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~   ~

RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I told you I was buying this year Z. MBS was happy to pick up your frosty mug 
in your absence though. :)
Maybe next year...I thought 2010 was supposed to be in NOLA. We can all hang in 
the Big Easy with EZ. EZ squared! :)
TVK

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

TVK is always down for free beer..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I'm there...As long as you're buying Sherry. :)


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there 
now..

--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Andy Shook]

Beer = men

Shook

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

TVK is always down for free beer..

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I'm there...As long as you're buying Sherry. :)


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there 
now..

--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

John,
I think that the relevance of college degrees in the 21st century will depend 
greatly on the cost of attending college either A) continuing to spiral out of 
control in relation to other costs or B) leveling off and then coming back into 
line with other costs of living. If option A bears out, then no one other than 
the extremely wealthy, will have college degrees 10 years from now.
YOMV,
TVK


From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I think that trend will end, though, as we move forward in the 21st century. I 
suspect that more and more employers will expect the IT pros they hire to have 
degrees and the knowledge that (hopefully) comes with them.

The Master's I'm working on is in Management Information Systems. 
Interestingly, this program actually falls under the university's College of 
Business. The coursework focuses strongly on aligning IT skills with business 
needs-in fact, several of the courses we take are actually part of the MBA 
program. This is critical because there has traditionally been somewhat of a 
disconnect between business and IT, but companies in recent years have started 
to push much more strongly for business justifications for IT investments. IT 
pros are having to learn how to more closely integrate with the business side 
of things.







From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

All valid points, and I was not in any way discounting the value inherent in 
possessing a degree. My ultimate point was that I've never seen them to be a 
valid indicator of whether or not an individual has the skills necessary to 
perform their job requirements, nor does the lack of a degree limit how far one 
can advance in this field. In fact the vast majority of the higher-paid 
($100k+) professionals I know in IT don't have a college degree and a couple of 
them don't even have a high school diploma. Maybe I simply know more 
exceptional people than most. :)

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

While it's certainly true that people can find success without a degree, that's 
the exception rather than the rule. Most higher-paying professional positions 
require one, and statistically people with degrees tend to earn much more money 
over their lifetimes than those without.

We all know that neither degrees nor certification, by themselves, prove 
anything other than that you've invested the time and money to get them. And 
you do have to have some degree of smarts, at least to get a degree from a real 
university. But they still have value, and in my experience most people 
recognize that.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us




From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I was in consulting for ~6.5 year, both direct and subcontracting to other 
consulting firms,  and would argue the opposite actually. I've never had any 
Microsoft certs and don't have a college degree. Out of hundreds of engagements 
I only once had a customer ask about this. That turned out to be the project 
from hell as well. :)

Additionally, I do a fair bit of hiring right now and honestly I could care 
less if someone is certified or has a degree. All I care about is whether or 
not candidates know what they are doing. Certs have never told me this and I 
don't really see how they ever could...

That being said this is surely an interesting thread so far.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Bah.

You should think of certs and degrees merely as ways to get you entry.

I work with lots of banks and educational institutions; and subcontract to 
other consulting firms. Certs and degrees are the price of entry.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php




















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Ziots, Edward]

TVK is always down for free beer..

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email: ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone: 401-639-3505

MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

I'm there...As long as you're buying Sherry. :-)

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there
now..

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Ziots, Edward]

Or as the song says..

 

"take this cert and shove it, I aint studying for you no more!"

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email: ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone: 401-639-3505

MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +



From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

Then they'll just get drunk and argue who has the bigger cert

 



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there
now..

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 

 
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

I'm there...As long as you're buying Sherry. :)


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there 
now..

--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke





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~   ~

Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

Oddly, somebody has a case of the Monday's on a Friday!  :-)

--
ME2



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Sherry Abercrombie  wrote:
> Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there
> now..
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Jake Gardner]

Then they'll just get drunk and argue who has the bigger cert



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there
now..

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke


 

 


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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

4 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to 
> law school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a

> one point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five 
> Fs out of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in law/military school?
>  A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
>
> -- Ben
>
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Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Sheesh, sounds like somebody needs to find a happy hour pub and go there
now..

-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Joe Tinney]

Vanderbilt Divinity School.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in law/military school?
>  A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Eric Brouwer]

 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in law/military school?
>  A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
>
> __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus 
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>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
>
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>
> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>
> http://www.eset.com
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
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>
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Eric Brouwer]

This is exactly what my Master's of Business Information Technology was
like.  Really helped me relate better to the "business" side of the house.

 

  _  

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

I think that trend will end, though, as we move forward in the 21st century.
I suspect that more and more employers will expect the IT pros they hire to
have degrees and the knowledge that (hopefully) comes with them.

 

The Master's I'm working on is in Management Information Systems.
Interestingly, this program actually falls under the university's College of
Business. The coursework focuses strongly on aligning IT skills with
business needs-in fact, several of the courses we take are actually part of
the MBA program. This is critical because there has traditionally been
somewhat of a disconnect between business and IT, but companies in recent
years have started to push much more strongly for business justifications
for IT investments. IT pros are having to learn how to more closely
integrate with the business side of things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

All valid points, and I was not in any way discounting the value inherent in
possessing a degree. My ultimate point was that I've never seen them to be a
valid indicator of whether or not an individual has the skills necessary to
perform their job requirements, nor does the lack of a degree limit how far
one can advance in this field. In fact the vast majority of the higher-paid
($100k+) professionals I know in IT don't have a college degree and a couple
of them don't even have a high school diploma. Maybe I simply know more
exceptional people than most. :-)

 

Thanks,

 

Jeremy Phillips

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

While it's certainly true that people can find success without a degree,
that's the exception rather than the rule. Most higher-paying professional
positions require one, and statistically people with degrees tend to earn
much more money over their lifetimes than those without.

 

We all know that neither degrees nor certification, by themselves, prove
anything other than that you've invested the time and money to get them. And
you do have to have some degree of smarts, at least to get a degree from a
real university. But they still have value, and in my experience most people
recognize that.

 

 

 

John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

318 North Clark Street

Perry, FL 32347

 

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

 

 

From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

I was in consulting for ~6.5 year, both direct and subcontracting to other
consulting firms,  and would argue the opposite actually. I've never had any
Microsoft certs and don't have a college degree. Out of hundreds of
engagements I only once had a customer ask about this. That turned out to be
the project from hell as well. :-)

 

Additionally, I do a fair bit of hiring right now and honestly I could care
less if someone is certified or has a degree. All I care about is whether or
not candidates know what they are doing. Certs have never told me this and I
don't really see how they ever could.

 

That being said this is surely an interesting thread so far.

 

Thanks,

 

Jeremy Phillips

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 

Bah.

 

You should think of certs and degrees merely as ways to get you entry.

 

I work with lots of banks and educational institutions; and subcontract to
other consulting firms. Certs and degrees are the price of entry.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP

My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael

I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[Ralph Smith]

Full daily, rotating 5 disks Monday through Friday.
Last business Day of the month the daily disk is replaced by a monthly
disk which is retained for 12 months.
Last Business day of the year an annual disk replaces the normally
scheduled disk and is retained indefinitely.

We are currently backing up around 50 GB using Iomega REV disks and
Retrospect.

> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS
> 
> We run full backups daily.
> 
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> IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
> Aurico Reports, Inc
> Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
> ccoo...@aurico.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS
> 
> Out of curiosity...
> 
> Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly
basis,
> or
> monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what
are
> you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an
> incremental
> or differential backup?
> 
> Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
> Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
> expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec
> things
> IMHO).
> 
> Just wondering what others are doing out there
> Thanks
> 
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Phil Guevara]

 question
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in law/military school?
>  A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
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RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[Michael Ross]

I do FULL backups each night if I can. One server is too large so I do one
full Monday night (I change my tapes on Monday morning to coincide with the
work weeks) and Tues thru Sun I do Differentials, so I only need , in
theory, 2 tapes,  to do a full restore of that server.

This way, if a server dies on a Thursday, I just restore Monday night and
Wednesday night , and ive lost, at most, 24 hours of data.

That week's tapes have a retention period of 4 weeks.

 

I also do B2D, following the same thing, except they are retained for 2
weeks since I back up the B2D to tape once a week.

 

From: Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) [mailto:joe.haral...@ge.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS

 

Backup Schedule and Retention:

 


 

Sunday

Monday

Tuesday

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday


Week 1

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Weekly


Week 2

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Weekly


Week 3

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Weekly


Week 4

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Monthly

 

 Full BackupFull Backup
Differential Backup

 

Daily backups will have a retention period of 2 weeks.

Weekly backups will have a retention period of 4 weeks.

Monthly backups will have a retention period of 52 weeks.

 

The Monthly backup is to happen on the last Saturday of every month and will
replace the Weekly backup for that week.

 

  _  

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS

Full weekly on the weekend on tapes that are rotated & once a month a full
monthly run that becomes a permanent tape at our off-site storage.
Incremental dailies except for the *nix stuff that I have to use
Differential/Modified Time on for them to work properly (that includes the
stupid mac server stuff).  

Exchange is a full every day. 

Haven't used CPS.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com 
wrote:

Out of curiosity.

Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or
monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are
you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental
or differential backup?

Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things
IMHO).

Just wondering what others are doing out there..
Thanks




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Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[Cameron Cooper]

We run full backups daily.

___
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: backup question... and Symantec CPS

Out of curiosity...

Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis,
or
monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are
you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an
incremental
or differential backup?

Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec
things
IMHO).

Just wondering what others are doing out there
Thanks




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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[John Hornbuckle]

I think that trend will end, though, as we move forward in the 21st century. I 
suspect that more and more employers will expect the IT pros they hire to have 
degrees and the knowledge that (hopefully) comes with them.

The Master's I'm working on is in Management Information Systems. 
Interestingly, this program actually falls under the university's College of 
Business. The coursework focuses strongly on aligning IT skills with business 
needs-in fact, several of the courses we take are actually part of the MBA 
program. This is critical because there has traditionally been somewhat of a 
disconnect between business and IT, but companies in recent years have started 
to push much more strongly for business justifications for IT investments. IT 
pros are having to learn how to more closely integrate with the business side 
of things.







From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

All valid points, and I was not in any way discounting the value inherent in 
possessing a degree. My ultimate point was that I've never seen them to be a 
valid indicator of whether or not an individual has the skills necessary to 
perform their job requirements, nor does the lack of a degree limit how far one 
can advance in this field. In fact the vast majority of the higher-paid 
($100k+) professionals I know in IT don't have a college degree and a couple of 
them don't even have a high school diploma. Maybe I simply know more 
exceptional people than most. :)

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

While it's certainly true that people can find success without a degree, that's 
the exception rather than the rule. Most higher-paying professional positions 
require one, and statistically people with degrees tend to earn much more money 
over their lifetimes than those without.

We all know that neither degrees nor certification, by themselves, prove 
anything other than that you've invested the time and money to get them. And 
you do have to have some degree of smarts, at least to get a degree from a real 
university. But they still have value, and in my experience most people 
recognize that.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us




From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I was in consulting for ~6.5 year, both direct and subcontracting to other 
consulting firms,  and would argue the opposite actually. I've never had any 
Microsoft certs and don't have a college degree. Out of hundreds of engagements 
I only once had a customer ask about this. That turned out to be the project 
from hell as well. :)

Additionally, I do a fair bit of hiring right now and honestly I could care 
less if someone is certified or has a degree. All I care about is whether or 
not candidates know what they are doing. Certs have never told me this and I 
don't really see how they ever could...

That being said this is surely an interesting thread so far.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Bah.

You should think of certs and degrees merely as ways to get you entry.

I work with lots of banks and educational institutions; and subcontract to 
other consulting firms. Certs and degrees are the price of entry.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php















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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Andy Shook]

ary school?
>  A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
>
> -- Ben
>
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Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

ECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
>
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>
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Jeremy Phillips]

All valid points, and I was not in any way discounting the value inherent in 
possessing a degree. My ultimate point was that I've never seen them to be a 
valid indicator of whether or not an individual has the skills necessary to 
perform their job requirements, nor does the lack of a degree limit how far one 
can advance in this field. In fact the vast majority of the higher-paid 
($100k+) professionals I know in IT don't have a college degree and a couple of 
them don't even have a high school diploma. Maybe I simply know more 
exceptional people than most. :)

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

While it's certainly true that people can find success without a degree, that's 
the exception rather than the rule. Most higher-paying professional positions 
require one, and statistically people with degrees tend to earn much more money 
over their lifetimes than those without.

We all know that neither degrees nor certification, by themselves, prove 
anything other than that you've invested the time and money to get them. And 
you do have to have some degree of smarts, at least to get a degree from a real 
university. But they still have value, and in my experience most people 
recognize that.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us




From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I was in consulting for ~6.5 year, both direct and subcontracting to other 
consulting firms,  and would argue the opposite actually. I've never had any 
Microsoft certs and don't have a college degree. Out of hundreds of engagements 
I only once had a customer ask about this. That turned out to be the project 
from hell as well. :)

Additionally, I do a fair bit of hiring right now and honestly I could care 
less if someone is certified or has a degree. All I care about is whether or 
not candidates know what they are doing. Certs have never told me this and I 
don't really see how they ever could...

That being said this is surely an interesting thread so far.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Bah.

You should think of certs and degrees merely as ways to get you entry.

I work with lots of banks and educational institutions; and subcontract to 
other consulting firms. Certs and degrees are the price of entry.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php










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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[John Hornbuckle]

My job only requires an Associate's degree. However, since being here I've 
voluntarily completed my Bachelor's, and am now a grad student working on my 
Master's. Not because my employers have asked me to, and not because the 
degrees get me a raise or anything. Rather, it's because some day I may not be 
working here. In the current economy, even traditionally-safe public sector 
jobs can't be counted on for stability. I've got over a decade of professional 
experience and a broad knowledge base, but the degrees are the icing on the 
cake. An insurance policy. If I end up competing for a job with another guy 
who's as good as me, the degrees will give me the edge.

Plus, I've actually learned a lot that has helped me with my job. Working on my 
Master's has forced me to study things that I probably wouldn't have 
voluntarily studied, but that have benefited me and made me a better employee.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us



From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

IMO, certs may help identify a potential job candidate as someone with the 
drive, determination and discipline to study for and pass certain exams. I 
agree that it in no way helps identify someone qualified for a position over 
another candidate with experience. It just shows that person recognizes what 
employers are looking for in a potential candidate and that the candidate was 
willing/able to obtain those required "pieces of paper".

I've been at my current job for over 7 years now. I have about 11 years 
experience total. I feel that I'm effecient at my job and I'm always 
researching/educating myself on new technologies. With that said, I haven't 
taken a Microsoft exam since I obtained my MCSE on NT4. I've since only 
obtained a CCA for Presentation Server 4.0.

I've had no pressure to obtain any certs from my employer so I haven't. In 
fact, I've told both of my managers that if I start passing exams it's because 
I'm padding my resume in preparation for moving on to another job :)

- Sean





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Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Sean Martin]

n would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to law
> school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a one
> point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five Fs out
> of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
> in law/military school?
>  A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>  On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
> > A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
>
> -- Ben
>
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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Joe Tinney]

Does anyone know if it sticks to UDP 8247 for the P2P functions or if
logic is present to use another port when it communicates with the
Octoshape servers if that one is unavailable? 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

 

Interesting, I see it in add/remove programs only for the user that
installed it. I installed it on purpose with LocalAdmin1 and it is
there. But logging in with LocalAdmin2 it is not in add/remove programs.

 

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

 

I set Vipre to block the octoshape.exe and it found it on a deep scan.
In the article it states that there is an uninstaller for this.  On the
laptop that I found it on there is not an entry for Octoshape in
Add/Remove Programs.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
wrote:

Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
(link may wrap):
--

On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:

[Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss
more when it
has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure,
I'm
mentioned in the article. - Ryan]

The article is long, but here is the main concept:

"Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
live video to other viewers."

This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
network.  As mentioned in the article:

"Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
software, hackers could exploit the weakness."

http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
-with-CNN >
We have already found several systems on our network that have this
installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
this could be something you might want to check into on your own
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Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Eric Wittersheim]

Jim,

Thanks for the tip.  I logged on as the install user and there it is.

Eric

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  Interesting, I see it in add/remove programs only for the user that
> installed it. I installed it on purpose with LocalAdmin1 and it is there.
> But logging in with LocalAdmin2 it is not in add/remove programs.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2009 11:59 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)
>
>
>
> I set Vipre to block the octoshape.exe and it found it on a deep scan.  In
> the article it states that there is an uninstaller for this.  On the laptop
> that I found it on there is not an entry for Octoshape in Add/Remove
> Programs.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
> wrote:
>
> Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
> (link may wrap):
> --
>
> On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:
>
> [Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss more
> when it
> has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure, I'm
> mentioned in the article. - Ryan]
>
> The article is long, but here is the main concept:
>
> "Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
> application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
> live video to other viewers."
>
> This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
> other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
> But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
> network.  As mentioned in the article:
>
> "Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
> application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
> software, hackers could exploit the weakness."
>
> http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
> -with-CNN >
> We have already found several systems on our network that have this
> installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
> this could be something you might want to check into on your own
> networks.
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RE: Win2k3R2 Event forwarding to another Win2k3R2 server

[Juned Shaikh]

I beleive R2 added this functionality of forwarding events.. I am basically 
trying to "Forward" the events to Say a Win2k8 collector.. 

I already see the Forwarded Events view under event viewer of Wi2k3R2 std 
server.


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RE: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)]

Backup Schedule and Retention:

 

 

Sunday

Monday

Tuesday

Wednesday

Thursday

Friday

Saturday

Week 1

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Weekly

Week 2

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Weekly

Week 3

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Weekly

Week 4

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Daily

Monthly

 

Full Backup   Full Backup
Differential Backup

 

Daily backups will have a retention period of 2 weeks.

Weekly backups will have a retention period of 4 weeks.

Monthly backups will have a retention period of 52 weeks.

 

The Monthly backup is to happen on the last Saturday of every month and
will replace the Weekly backup for that week.




From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS


Full weekly on the weekend on tapes that are rotated & once a month a
full monthly run that becomes a permanent tape at our off-site storage.
Incremental dailies except for the *nix stuff that I have to use
Differential/Modified Time on for them to work properly (that includes
the stupid mac server stuff).  

Exchange is a full every day. 

Haven't used CPS.


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com <
jesse-r...@wi.rr.com> wrote:


Out of curiosity...

Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly
basis, or
monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups,
what are
you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an
incremental
or differential backup?

Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it
work as
expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most
Symantec things
IMHO).

Just wondering what others are doing out there
Thanks





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Arthur C. Clarke


 

 


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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Phil Guevara]

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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[John Hornbuckle]

While it's certainly true that people can find success without a degree, that's 
the exception rather than the rule. Most higher-paying professional positions 
require one, and statistically people with degrees tend to earn much more money 
over their lifetimes than those without.

We all know that neither degrees nor certification, by themselves, prove 
anything other than that you've invested the time and money to get them. And 
you do have to have some degree of smarts, at least to get a degree from a real 
university. But they still have value, and in my experience most people 
recognize that.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us




From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I was in consulting for ~6.5 year, both direct and subcontracting to other 
consulting firms,  and would argue the opposite actually. I've never had any 
Microsoft certs and don't have a college degree. Out of hundreds of engagements 
I only once had a customer ask about this. That turned out to be the project 
from hell as well. :)

Additionally, I do a fair bit of hiring right now and honestly I could care 
less if someone is certified or has a degree. All I care about is whether or 
not candidates know what they are doing. Certs have never told me this and I 
don't really see how they ever could...

That being said this is surely an interesting thread so far.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Bah.

You should think of certs and degrees merely as ways to get you entry.

I work with lots of banks and educational institutions; and subcontract to 
other consulting firms. Certs and degrees are the price of entry.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: backup question... and Symantec CPS

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Full weekly on the weekend on tapes that are rotated & once a month a full
monthly run that becomes a permanent tape at our off-site storage.
Incremental dailies except for the *nix stuff that I have to use
Differential/Modified Time on for them to work properly (that includes the
stupid mac server stuff).

Exchange is a full every day.

Haven't used CPS.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:56 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
wrote:

> Out of curiosity…
>
> Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or
> monthly basis?  If you're doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are
> you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental
> or differential backup?
>
> Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
> Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
> expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things
> IMHO).
>
> Just wondering what others are doing out there….
> Thanks
>
>
>
> 
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

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RE: Win2k3R2 Event forwarding to another Win2k3R2 server

[Free, Bob]

Are you talking about Event Log subscriptions which are only available in 
Windows Vista and Windows Server 2008?

-Original Message-
From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win2k3R2 Event forwarding to another Win2k3R2 server

Hello,

I am trying to setup event forwarding to be collected on another Win2k3R2 (both 
standard) servers.. Googling isn't helping much. Does anyone on this list has 
achieved this before? Please share the steps, please.. thanks.
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RE: Win2k3R2 Event forwarding to another Win2k3R2 server

[Ziots, Edward]

You are going to have to use a syslog agent or maybe something like
Snare or others to forward the log to another system, but not a Win2k3
servers eventlog, only in 2k8 can you forward events,. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

-Original Message-
From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win2k3R2 Event forwarding to another Win2k3R2 server

Hello,

I am trying to setup event forwarding to be collected on another
Win2k3R2 (both standard) servers.. Googling isn't helping much. Does
anyone on this list has achieved this before? Please share the steps,
please.. thanks.
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backup question... and Symantec CPS

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

Out of curiosity…

Are most people doing Full data backups on a daily basis, weekly basis, or
monthly basis?  If you’re doing weekly or monthly full backups, what are
you doing on days the Full backup is not scheduled to run, an incremental
or differential backup?

Is anyone actually using Continuous Protection Server (CPS) from
Symantec/Backup Exec?  If so, for what functionality?  Does it work as
expected?  Or does it leave a lot to be desired (like most Symantec things
IMHO).

Just wondering what others are doing out there….
Thanks




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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[John Cook]

Unfortunately some companies require a cert or degree to even apply for certain 
positions. It really doesn't matter if your degree is even in that particular 
field (My Director has a Bachelors in English - go figure!) as long as you have 
a degree you can interview, even if you are clueless.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:jeremy.phill...@azaleos.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

I was in consulting for ~6.5 year, both direct and subcontracting to other 
consulting firms,  and would argue the opposite actually. I've never had any 
Microsoft certs and don't have a college degree. Out of hundreds of engagements 
I only once had a customer ask about this. That turned out to be the project 
from hell as well. :)

Additionally, I do a fair bit of hiring right now and honestly I could care 
less if someone is certified or has a degree. All I care about is whether or 
not candidates know what they are doing. Certs have never told me this and I 
don't really see how they ever could...

That being said this is surely an interesting thread so far.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Bah.

You should think of certs and degrees merely as ways to get you entry.

I work with lots of banks and educational institutions; and subcontract to 
other consulting firms. Certs and degrees are the price of entry.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Best reason I've heard yet for not getting a degree. :-P


From: dennis_rogov2...@yahoo.com [mailto:dennis_rogov2...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Hmm in that case degree is just a paper. However without a degree its almost 
impossible to land a managment position

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: "Ziots, Edward"
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:41:52 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
Concurr,

Both great points, that is why I said why do people continue to keep doing it. 
The Cert is just a piece of paper, experience is what I am looking for, no 
certificate can teach that or even measure it.. Only reason I can see is 
basically due to Gold/Platinum Partner requirements to have so many certified 
people on staff to maintain status.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
































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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Kennedy, Jim]

Interesting, I see it in add/remove programs only for the user that installed 
it. I installed it on purpose with LocalAdmin1 and it is there. But logging in 
with LocalAdmin2 it is not in add/remove programs.




From: Eric Wittersheim 
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a 
P2P client)



I set Vipre to block the octoshape.exe and it found it on a deep scan.  In the 
article it states that there is an uninstaller for this.  On the laptop that I 
found it on there is not an entry for Octoshape in Add/Remove Programs.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
mailto:peter...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
(link may wrap):
--

On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:

[Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss more when 
it
has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure, I'm
mentioned in the article. - Ryan]

The article is long, but here is the main concept:

"Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
live video to other viewers."

This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
network.  As mentioned in the article:

"Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
software, hackers could exploit the weakness."

http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
-with-CNN >
We have already found several systems on our network that have this
installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
this could be something you might want to check into on your own
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Phil Guevara]

For the slow ones

I only reiterated his point, therefore his statement declaring that I
was off point, is directly stating that he was off point. *Bait, caught
and trapped*


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 TOOT! TOOT!

Can you hear it?  The fail train is coming down the tracks!

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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Tim Vander Kooi 
wrote:
> No, it wasn't your point. And you second assertion has nothing to do
with reality.
> Perhaps you will learn from this failure. :-) TVK
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> That is exactly my point and a good example of this is why we didn't
vote for mcfail. We learned from mcbush.
>
> --
> --
> 
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:34 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>
> Experience can just as easily = learning from someone else's mistake. 
> It does not inherently require that a person make the mistake
themselves.
>
>
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>
> Eventually the doctor will get experience and his education will be 
> moot. (According to the logic in the ring analogy)
>
> "Education = learned before the mistake. Experience = learned after 
> the mistake."
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> But those facts are nearly as fun to throw around when one is a 
> liberal/socialist. ;-)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:34 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to 
> law school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a

> one point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five 
> Fs out of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

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>  A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain".
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class

> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
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Win2k3R2 Event forwarding to another Win2k3R2 server

[Juned Shaikh]

Hello,

I am trying to setup event forwarding to be collected on another Win2k3R2 (both 
standard) servers.. Googling isn't helping much. Does anyone on this list has 
achieved this before? Please share the steps, please.. thanks.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Jeremy Phillips]

I was in consulting for ~6.5 year, both direct and subcontracting to other 
consulting firms,  and would argue the opposite actually. I've never had any 
Microsoft certs and don't have a college degree. Out of hundreds of engagements 
I only once had a customer ask about this. That turned out to be the project 
from hell as well. :)

Additionally, I do a fair bit of hiring right now and honestly I could care 
less if someone is certified or has a degree. All I care about is whether or 
not candidates know what they are doing. Certs have never told me this and I 
don't really see how they ever could...

That being said this is surely an interesting thread so far.

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Bah.

You should think of certs and degrees merely as ways to get you entry.

I work with lots of banks and educational institutions; and subcontract to 
other consulting firms. Certs and degrees are the price of entry.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Best reason I've heard yet for not getting a degree. :-P


From: dennis_rogov2...@yahoo.com [mailto:dennis_rogov2...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Hmm in that case degree is just a paper. However without a degree its almost 
impossible to land a managment position

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From: "Ziots, Edward"
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:41:52 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
Concurr,

Both great points, that is why I said why do people continue to keep doing it. 
The Cert is just a piece of paper, experience is what I am looking for, no 
certificate can teach that or even measure it.. Only reason I can see is 
basically due to Gold/Platinum Partner requirements to have so many certified 
people on staff to maintain status.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: ezi...@lifespan.org
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


























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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Jake Gardner]

Finished search, found 4 entries.
 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App
Management\ARPCache\Octoshape add-in for Adobe Flash Player
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Oc
toshape add-in for Adobe Flash Player\UninstallString
 
and the same two but under HKU
 
 



From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)


 
 
I'm searching the registry now.  Found this listed for the
UninstallString
 
"C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
Player\www.macromedia.com\bin\octoshape\octoshape.exe" -uninstall

 
 


 

 

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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Kim Longenbaugh]

In the article the original poster linked, it says this:
" IT admins who'd like to turn off the installation of Octoshape within
their companies could disable Flash's update mechanism, as explained in
Adobe TechNote 16701594. But doing so would disable all auto-updates
from Adobe, not just Octoshape."

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)


Sometimes these types of pluggins get hosted on the domains of the
parent developer of the pluggin architecture.

So, what if Adobe hosts the Octoshape pluggin installer?  That would
make blocking Octoshapes website useless.

Is there a way to just prevent Flash pluggins from being installed all
together?

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

I got the ok to take the easy way out and block the Octoshape website,
so at least in the future, our users won't be able to install it even if
permissions will allow.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)


It will not. That is what is saving us also.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:50 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)


>   Anyone know if this client will install if the user doesn't have
> admin rights?


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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Jake Gardner]

 
 
I'm searching the registry now.  Found this listed for the
UninstallString
 
"C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
Player\www.macromedia.com\bin\octoshape\octoshape.exe" -uninstall

 
 

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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Cameron Cooper]

For Vista and Windows 7 that will be in a different location:

 

C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Local 

C:\Users\%username%\AppData\LocalLow

C:\Users\%username%\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia

 

 

 

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Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com  

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

 

Cheers for that, Eric.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

 

Here is where it was on the laptop that I found it on.

C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
Player\www.macromedia.com\bin\octoshape\octoshape.exe



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

I did find an entry for Octoshape in Add/Remove to the one machine I
have physical access too.  But I can't actually find where the EXE's are
located.

 

My Audit program doesn't list the paths of exe's found.  (Silly).

 

Does Vipre report a file path for you?

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

 

I set Vipre to block the octoshape.exe and it found it on a deep scan.
In the article it states that there is an uninstaller for this.  On the
laptop that I found it on there is not an entry for Octoshape in
Add/Remove Programs.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
wrote:

Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
(link may wrap):
--

On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:

[Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss
more when it
has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure,
I'm
mentioned in the article. - Ryan]

The article is long, but here is the main concept:

"Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
live video to other viewers."

This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
network.  As mentioned in the article:

"Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
software, hackers could exploit the weakness."

http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
-with-CNN >
We have already found several systems on our network that have this
installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
this could be something you might want to check into on your own
networks.

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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Sam Cayze]

Cheers for that, Eric.

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

 

Here is where it was on the laptop that I found it on.

C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
Player\www.macromedia.com\bin\octoshape\octoshape.exe




On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sam Cayze 
wrote:

I did find an entry for Octoshape in Add/Remove to the one machine I
have physical access too.  But I can't actually find where the EXE's are
located.

 

My Audit program doesn't list the paths of exe's found.  (Silly).

 

Does Vipre report a file path for you?

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

 

I set Vipre to block the octoshape.exe and it found it on a deep scan.
In the article it states that there is an uninstaller for this.  On the
laptop that I found it on there is not an entry for Octoshape in
Add/Remove Programs.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
wrote:

Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
(link may wrap):
--

On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:

[Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss
more when it
has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure,
I'm
mentioned in the article. - Ryan]

The article is long, but here is the main concept:

"Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
live video to other viewers."

This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
network.  As mentioned in the article:

"Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
software, hackers could exploit the weakness."

http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
-with-CNN >
We have already found several systems on our network that have this
installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
this could be something you might want to check into on your own
networks.

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Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

 TOOT! TOOT!

Can you hear it?  The fail train is coming down the tracks!

--
ME2



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Tim Vander Kooi  wrote:
> No, it wasn't your point. And you second assertion has nothing to do with 
> reality.
> Perhaps you will learn from this failure. :-)
> TVK
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> That is exactly my point and a good example of this is why we didn't vote for 
> mcfail. We learned from mcbush.
>
> 
> 
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:34 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>
> Experience can just as easily = learning from someone else's mistake. It
> does not inherently require that a person make the mistake themselves.
>
>
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:27 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>
> Eventually the doctor will get experience and his education will be
> moot. (According to the logic in the ring analogy)
>
> "Education = learned before the mistake. Experience = learned after the
> mistake."
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> But those facts are nearly as fun to throw around when one is a
> liberal/socialist. ;-)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:34 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to law
> school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a one
> point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five Fs out
> of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
> in law/military school?
>  A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...
>
>  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
> in med school?
>  A: "Doctor".
>
> -- Ben
>
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Phil Guevara]

Your right, it wasn't my point and you fell right into it.  But im not
sure if you would understand that... 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

No, it wasn't your point. And you second assertion has nothing to do
with reality.
Perhaps you will learn from this failure. :-) TVK

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

That is exactly my point and a good example of this is why we didn't
vote for mcfail. We learned from mcbush.



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Experience can just as easily = learning from someone else's mistake. It
does not inherently require that a person make the mistake themselves.


From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Eventually the doctor will get experience and his education will be
moot. (According to the logic in the ring analogy)

"Education = learned before the mistake. Experience = learned after the
mistake." 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

But those facts are nearly as fun to throw around when one is a
liberal/socialist. ;-)


-Original Message-
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to law
school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a one
point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five Fs out
of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School. 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in law/military school?
 A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain". 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
wrote:
> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...

  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in med school?
  A: "Doctor".

-- Ben

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Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Eric Wittersheim]

Here is where it was on the laptop that I found it on.

C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash
Player\www.macromedia.com\bin\octoshape\octoshape.exe



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

>  I did find an entry for Octoshape in Add/Remove to the one machine I have
> physical access too.  But I can't actually find where the EXE's are located.
>
>
>
> My Audit program doesn't list the paths of exe's found.  (Silly).
>
>
>
> Does Vipre report a file path for you?
>
>
>
> *From:* Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2009 11:59 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)
>
>
>
> I set Vipre to block the octoshape.exe and it found it on a deep scan.  In
> the article it states that there is an uninstaller for this.  On the laptop
> that I found it on there is not an entry for Octoshape in Add/Remove
> Programs.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
> wrote:
>
> Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
> (link may wrap):
> --
>
> On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:
>
> [Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss more
> when it
> has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure, I'm
> mentioned in the article. - Ryan]
>
> The article is long, but here is the main concept:
>
> "Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
> application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
> live video to other viewers."
>
> This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
> other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
> But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
> network.  As mentioned in the article:
>
> "Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
> application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
> software, hackers could exploit the weakness."
>
> http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
> -with-CNN >
> We have already found several systems on our network that have this
> installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
> this could be something you might want to check into on your own
> networks.
>
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Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Kurt Buff]

Alternative:

Deny application/x-shockwave-flash at the firewall by default, and
then only allow it on a per-site basis for known, trusted sites.



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
> Sometimes these types of pluggins get hosted on the domains of the
> parent developer of the pluggin architecture.
>
> So, what if Adobe hosts the Octoshape pluggin installer?  That would
> make blocking Octoshapes website useless.
>
> Is there a way to just prevent Flash pluggins from being installed all
> together?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:01 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)
>
> I got the ok to take the easy way out and block the Octoshape website,
> so at least in the future, our users won't be able to install it even if
> permissions will allow.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)
>
>
> It will not. That is what is saving us also.
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:50 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
>> install a P2P client)
>
>
>>   Anyone know if this client will install if the user doesn't have
>> admin rights?
>
>
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> ~   ~
>
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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Sam Cayze]

I did find an entry for Octoshape in Add/Remove to the one machine I
have physical access too.  But I can't actually find where the EXE's are
located.

 

My Audit program doesn't list the paths of exe's found.  (Silly).

 

Does Vipre report a file path for you?

 

From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

 

I set Vipre to block the octoshape.exe and it found it on a deep scan.
In the article it states that there is an uninstaller for this.  On the
laptop that I found it on there is not an entry for Octoshape in
Add/Remove Programs.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
wrote:

Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
(link may wrap):
--

On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:

[Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss
more when it
has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure,
I'm
mentioned in the article. - Ryan]

The article is long, but here is the main concept:

"Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
live video to other viewers."

This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
network.  As mentioned in the article:

"Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
software, hackers could exploit the weakness."

http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
-with-CNN >
We have already found several systems on our network that have this
installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
this could be something you might want to check into on your own
networks.

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Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Eric Wittersheim]

I set Vipre to block the octoshape.exe and it found it on a deep scan.  In
the article it states that there is an uninstaller for this.  On the laptop
that I found it on there is not an entry for Octoshape in Add/Remove
Programs.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten  wrote:

> Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
> (link may wrap):
> --
>
> On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:
>
>> [Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss more
>> when it
>> has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure, I'm
>> mentioned in the article. - Ryan]
>>
>> The article is long, but here is the main concept:
>>
>> "Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
>> application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
>> live video to other viewers."
>>
>> This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
>> other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
>> But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
>> network.  As mentioned in the article:
>>
>> "Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
>> application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
>> software, hackers could exploit the weakness."
>>
>> http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
>> -with-CNN >
>> We have already found several systems on our network that have this
>> installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
>> this could be something you might want to check into on your own
>> networks.
>>
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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

Especially when arguing by one's self. Please note that no one ever said 
anything in response dealing with politics.
TVK


-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Your right, this is way OT. it's actually stupid arguing politics. It 
accomplishes nothing really...

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Election's over. Can we politics off the list, please?  I really got my
fill of last year (and I'm a political junkie, too).   


Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center
231-845-2319

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

That is exactly my point and a good example of this is why we didn't vote for 
mcfail. We learned from mcbush.



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Experience can just as easily = learning from someone else's mistake. It does 
not inherently require that a person make the mistake themselves.


From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Eventually the doctor will get experience and his education will be moot. 
(According to the logic in the ring analogy)

"Education = learned before the mistake. Experience = learned after the 
mistake." 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

But those facts are nearly as fun to throw around when one is a 
liberal/socialist. ;-)


-Original Message-
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to law 
school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a one point 
higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five Fs out of 8 classes 
in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School. 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class in 
law/military school?
 A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain". 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
wrote:
> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...

  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class in med 
school?
  A: "Doctor".

-- Ben

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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Phil Guevara]

Your right, this is way OT. it's actually stupid arguing politics. It
accomplishes nothing really...

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Election's over. Can we politics off the list, please?  I really got my
fill of last year (and I'm a political junkie, too).   


Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center
231-845-2319

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

That is exactly my point and a good example of this is why we didn't
vote for mcfail. We learned from mcbush.



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Experience can just as easily = learning from someone else's mistake. It
does not inherently require that a person make the mistake themselves.


From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Eventually the doctor will get experience and his education will be
moot. (According to the logic in the ring analogy)

"Education = learned before the mistake. Experience = learned after the
mistake." 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

But those facts are nearly as fun to throw around when one is a
liberal/socialist. ;-)


-Original Message-
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to law
school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a one
point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five Fs out
of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School. 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in law/military school?
 A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain". 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
wrote:
> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...

  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in med school?
  A: "Doctor".

-- Ben

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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Sam Cayze]

Sometimes these types of pluggins get hosted on the domains of the
parent developer of the pluggin architecture.

So, what if Adobe hosts the Octoshape pluggin installer?  That would
make blocking Octoshapes website useless.

Is there a way to just prevent Flash pluggins from being installed all
together?

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

I got the ok to take the easy way out and block the Octoshape website,
so at least in the future, our users won't be able to install it even if
permissions will allow.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)


It will not. That is what is saving us also.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:50 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)


>   Anyone know if this client will install if the user doesn't have
> admin rights?


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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Tim Vander Kooi]

No, it wasn't your point. And you second assertion has nothing to do with 
reality.
Perhaps you will learn from this failure. :-)
TVK

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

That is exactly my point and a good example of this is why we didn't vote for 
mcfail. We learned from mcbush.



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Experience can just as easily = learning from someone else's mistake. It
does not inherently require that a person make the mistake themselves.


From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org] 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Eventually the doctor will get experience and his education will be
moot. (According to the logic in the ring analogy)

"Education = learned before the mistake. Experience = learned after the
mistake." 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

But those facts are nearly as fun to throw around when one is a
liberal/socialist. ;-)


-Original Message-
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to law
school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a one
point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five Fs out
of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School. 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in law/military school?
 A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain". 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
wrote:
> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...

  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in med school?
  A: "Doctor".

-- Ben

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RE: WSUS In a child Domain

[Troy Meyer]

Those groups that its requiring membership in are local groups on the child 
server.  Add your parent domain admin group to that local group and you 
shouldn't have any issues adding it to the console.

-troy

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jer...@mapiadmin.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WSUS In a child Domain

Local Admins Groups has localPC\Administrator and ChildDomain\domain Admins

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WSUS In a child Domain

What does the local administrators group contain on the child WSUS server?

-troy

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jer...@mapiadmin.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WSUS In a child Domain

I am trying to manager my Child domain WSUS server from the parent domain.  I 
am logging in to my workstation as an "Enterprise admin" ( I know - don't yell 
at me about Security) and my user account is in the WSUS Admins group.  The 
WSUS admin security group only exist in the parent domain, not the child 
domain.  The Child domain WSUS server is a downstream server to the Parent 
domain WSUS server and it is syncing properly.  Whan I try to add the child 
domain WSUS server to the WSUS Console, (By using the FQDN) I recieve the error 
:

"Cannot connect to Server.FQDN.local.  You do not have premission required to 
access thiss WSUS Server.  To Connect to the server you must be a member of the 
WSUS Administrators or WSUS Reporters Security Groups"

I am a member of thoes groups in the parent domain, and thoes groups dont exist 
in the child domain.

What am I missing here?

TIA

Jeremy







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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Chinnery, Paul]

Election's over. Can we politics off the list, please?  I really got my
fill of last year (and I'm a political junkie, too).   


Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center
231-845-2319

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

That is exactly my point and a good example of this is why we didn't
vote for mcfail. We learned from mcbush.



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Experience can just as easily = learning from someone else's mistake. It
does not inherently require that a person make the mistake themselves.


From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org] 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Eventually the doctor will get experience and his education will be
moot. (According to the logic in the ring analogy)

"Education = learned before the mistake. Experience = learned after the
mistake." 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

But those facts are nearly as fun to throw around when one is a
liberal/socialist. ;-)


-Original Message-
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to law
school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a one
point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five Fs out
of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School. 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in law/military school?
 A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain". 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
wrote:
> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...

  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in med school?
  A: "Doctor".

-- Ben

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<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
 

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RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

[Phil Guevara]

That is exactly my point and a good example of this is why we didn't
vote for mcfail. We learned from mcbush.



From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Experience can just as easily = learning from someone else's mistake. It
does not inherently require that a person make the mistake themselves.


From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org] 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question


Eventually the doctor will get experience and his education will be
moot. (According to the logic in the ring analogy)

"Education = learned before the mistake. Experience = learned after the
mistake." 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 7:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

But those facts are nearly as fun to throw around when one is a
liberal/socialist. ;-)


-Original Message-
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:spars...@scetv.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

Sen. Kerry, Sen. McCain would be more appropriate. Bush didn't go to law
school. He got an MBA from Harvard. Bush also finished Yale with a one
point higher average than Kerry. Gore wasn't stellar either. Five Fs out
of 8 classes in grad school at Vanderbilt Divinity School. 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Guevara [mailto:pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

 Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in law/military school?
 A: "President George Bush, Senator Mccain". 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SUSPECT: RE: MCSE question

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Daniel Rodriguez 
wrote:
> A doctor. who is certified and has many years of schooling ...

  Q: What do they call the guy who graduates at the bottom of his class
in med school?
  A: "Doctor".

-- Ben

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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Kim Longenbaugh]

I got the ok to take the easy way out and block the Octoshape website,
so at least in the future, our users won't be able to install it even if
permissions will allow.

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)


It will not. That is what is saving us also.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:50 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)


>   Anyone know if this client will install if the user doesn't have
> admin rights?


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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Cameron Cooper]

When I first started here, everyone had local Admin rights on the
computers, after a while we changed those to reg. users and then setup a
GPO that requires the Domain Admin to enter user name and password in
order to install.

___
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

Mmm... I just found 5 instances on my network. Nobody here has admin
rights.  It's getting installed somehow.

Still digging.



-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

It will not. That is what is saving us also.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:50 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)


>   Anyone know if this client will install if the user doesn't have
> admin rights?


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~


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~   ~


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~   ~

RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Sam Cayze]

Mmm... I just found 5 instances on my network. Nobody here has admin
rights.  It's getting installed somehow.

Still digging.



-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
install a P2P client)

It will not. That is what is saving us also.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:50 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)


>   Anyone know if this client will install if the user doesn't have
> admin rights?


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~   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Del *.bak after 7 days

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> Fascinating!  Did anyone else get Angus's email encoded? Or is just
> Gmail puking?

  His message's RFC-822 headers and MIME extensions don't specify the
proper transport encoding type, so most mail clients won't know it's
MIME64 encoded.  Any mail client which does is doing content sniffing
and auto-decoding to try and "help" you.

-- Ben

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~   ~

RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Kennedy, Jim]

It will not. That is what is saving us also.


> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:50 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)


>   Anyone know if this client will install if the user doesn't have
> admin rights?


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: WSUS In a child Domain

[Jeremy Anderson]

Local Admins Groups has localPC\Administrator and ChildDomain\domain Admins

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WSUS In a child Domain

What does the local administrators group contain on the child WSUS server?

-troy

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jer...@mapiadmin.net]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WSUS In a child Domain

I am trying to manager my Child domain WSUS server from the parent domain.  I 
am logging in to my workstation as an "Enterprise admin" ( I know - don't yell 
at me about Security) and my user account is in the WSUS Admins group.  The 
WSUS admin security group only exist in the parent domain, not the child 
domain.  The Child domain WSUS server is a downstream server to the Parent 
domain WSUS server and it is syncing properly.  Whan I try to add the child 
domain WSUS server to the WSUS Console, (By using the FQDN) I recieve the error 
:

"Cannot connect to Server.FQDN.local.  You do not have premission required to 
access thiss WSUS Server.  To Connect to the server you must be a member of the 
WSUS Administrators or WSUS Reporters Security Groups"

I am a member of thoes groups in the parent domain, and thoes groups dont exist 
in the child domain.

What am I missing here?

TIA

Jeremy







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  ~


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~   ~

Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Peter van Houten  wrote:
>> "Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
>> application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
>> live video to other viewers."

  Anyone know if this client will install if the user doesn't have admin rights?

  All day-to-day accounts for us don't have them, so if that's the
case we get off easy.

-- Ben

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~   ~

RE: NDTS KCC Errors

[David Lum]

Have you tried EvenID.NET?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764



From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NDTS KCC Errors

We have been receiving this error in the Directory Service, in Event Viewer, 
for a couple of weeks and I haven't been able to determine what would be 
causing this.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

[cid:image001.png@01C98843.F5B906E0]

We have three different sites, one of the sites hasn't been added to the forest 
yet.  The DC's at two of the sites can see each other and replicate any AD 
changes.

___
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com







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~   ~<>

RE: AD design question

[Brian Desmond]

It's a nonissue because all your DCs are GCs.

I don't remember whether they still contact the DC on 3268 or not.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AD design question

Right now I just wanted to focus on the user logon aspect of this issue. I am 
aware of application issues that require GC access such as Exchange.

Specifically in a single domain forest do users need access to a GC for logon 
requests? From what I have read so far I don't think it is necessary. As long 
as they can hit a DC they should be authenticated.




Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003


From: br...@briandesmond.com [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AD design question

Hi Chris-

I don't particularly like that choice of words, but...

In a single domain forest you need to mark all your DCs as GCs so that they 
listen on 3268. You still need GCs to exist, simply if you query a GC it will 
always return the exact same results as if you query a DC.

You definitely don't need UGC and in general I don't expect hardly anyone needs 
it in a multidomain forest.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: AD design question

Working on a design for a Windows 2008 domain. My question is in regards to 
DC/GC placement and use. Specifically if we decide to go with a single domain 
model, it's my understanding that all DCs can authenticate logon requests, GCs 
are not required for logon:


In a single-domain forest, all domain controllers act as "virtual global 
catalog servers" in that they can all respond to any authentication or service 
request.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc737269.aspx

If this is correct, I would assume that Universal Group Membership caching 
would not be needed either. Can anyone confirm/deny/elaborate on this?

Thank you,




Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003









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NDTS KCC Errors

[Cameron Cooper]

We have been receiving this error in the Directory Service, in Event
Viewer, for a couple of weeks and I haven't been able to determine what
would be causing this.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

 

 

We have three different sites, one of the sites hasn't been added to the
forest yet.  The DC's at two of the sites can see each other and
replicate any AD changes.

 

---___

Cameron Cooper

IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified

Aurico Reports, Inc

Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896

ccoo...@aurico.com

 


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Re: Friday OT: Demotivational poster of the week

[Vicky Spelshaus]

I love Despair.com  - and own a fair amount of their products.  This one
hangs in the workroom.  It's dedicated to the IT and maintenance staff here
on campus.

http://despair.com/worth.html

And Krishna - Tradition is in my office... right next to Motivation.
http://despair.com/motivation.html
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Reddy, Krishna  wrote:

> http://despair.com/tradition.html
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Krishna Reddy
> IT Manager
> Nucomm, Inc.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:27 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Friday OT: Demotivational poster of the week
>
> http://despair.com/limitations.html
> --
> Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
> ASPCA Knowledge Management
> 1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
> 217-337-9761
> http://www.aspca.org
>
>
> "Angus Scott-Fleming"  wrote on 02/05/2009 11:22:53
> PM:
>
>  > OK, what's everybody's favorite (de)motivational poster?
> >
> >
> http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/misspelling-it-sti
> ll-
> > matters-alot-demotivational-poster.jpg
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> >   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>


-- 
Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't
handle stress and caffeine. - unknown

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: AD design question

[Christopher Bodnar]

Right now I just wanted to focus on the user logon aspect of this issue. I
am aware of application issues that require GC access such as Exchange. 

 

Specifically in a single domain forest do users need access to a GC for
logon requests? From what I have read so far I don't think it is
necessary. As long as they can hit a DC they should be authenticated. 

 

 

 

Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

  _  

From: br...@briandesmond.com [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: AD design question

 

Hi Chris-

 

I don't particularly like that choice of words, but.

 

In a single domain forest you need to mark all your DCs as GCs so that
they listen on 3268. You still need GCs to exist, simply if you query a GC
it will always return the exact same results as if you query a DC. 

 

You definitely don't need UGC and in general I don't expect hardly anyone
needs it in a multidomain forest. 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: AD design question

 

Working on a design for a Windows 2008 domain. My question is in regards
to DC/GC placement and use. Specifically if we decide to go with a single
domain model, it's my understanding that all DCs can authenticate logon
requests, GCs are not required for logon:

 

 

In a single-domain forest, all domain controllers act as "virtual global
catalog servers" in that they can all respond to any authentication or
service request.

 

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc737269.aspx

 

If this is correct, I would assume that Universal Group Membership caching
would not be needed either. Can anyone confirm/deny/elaborate on this? 

 

Thank you,

 

 

 

Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003

 

 

 

 
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RE: Friday OT: Demotivational poster of the week

[Reddy, Krishna]

http://despair.com/tradition.html 


Thanks,

 

Krishna Reddy
IT Manager
Nucomm, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Friday OT: Demotivational poster of the week

http://despair.com/limitations.html
--
Richard McClary, Systems Administrator
ASPCA Knowledge Management
1717 S Philo Rd, Ste 36, Urbana, IL  61802
217-337-9761
http://www.aspca.org


"Angus Scott-Fleming"  wrote on 02/05/2009 11:22:53
PM:

> OK, what's everybody's favorite (de)motivational poster?
> 
> 
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/misspelling-it-sti
ll-
> matters-alot-demotivational-poster.jpg
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
>   ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Weird DNS issue which I think is really a DHCP issue

[Brian Desmond]

If it is actually something that requires a periodic reboot I'd suspect some 
sort of resource shortage.

I'd be inclined to tell you to call PSS given the circumstances.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Sauvigne, Craig M [mailto:sauvig...@winthrop.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird DNS issue which I think is really a DHCP issue

Here is an update to my DNS issue. I was focusing on one of our two domains 
since that is the only place there were issues. Now I have heard it is 
happening in the other domain. I have narrowed down the problem. Here is what I 
am seeing.

We have three servers:

SVR1 - DNS
SVR2 - DHCP
SVR3 - DNS and DHCP

A client requests and DHCP-assigned IP from SVR3: Everything works as expected. 
If a client requests from SVR2, it received and IP address and it shows in 
DHCP. However, neither DNS server gets updated. I can see the DHCP entry has an 
icon with a pen on it meaning it is waiting to write to DNS. Those are the 
facts.

Here is my speculation. Each time I reboot SVR2, everything will work for a 
certain time (haven't had time to figure out how long that is just yet). At 
some point, that DHCP server stops updating DNS. Then DNS goes through its 
scavenging and cleans out those records since it thinks they are stale.

Aside from scheduling a server reboot within the scavenging period, does anyone 
have any suggestions? I have reset the credentials so that is not a problem. I 
do have reverse DNS set up. Any other suggestions?

Thanks!

Craig

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird DNS issue

You might set some auditing on the DNS containers in AD such that events get 
logged when the entries get deleted and see where it's coming from. I'd venture 
to guess that your records aren't being refreshed for one reason or another and 
are thus being scavenged.

Don't forget there are two scavenging settings:


è The interval the actual thread runs (this is on the properties of the DNS 
server in the UI)

è The timeout for the zone (this is on the properties of the zone, Advanced tab 
or something similar in the UI)

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Sauvigne, Craig M [mailto:sauvig...@winthrop.edu]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird DNS issue

I sent this earlier but had a technical issue so it may not have gone out. Here 
it is again.

Let's see if I can answer everyone's questions. I should have given all this 
info in my original post but was rushed while trying to send it.

The DNS entry does actually disappear from the zone on the DNS servers (we have 
two and the entries are gone from both). Each building (which means each lab) 
is in a different subnet.

We are a Windows shop so our DNS, DHCP, AD (obviously) are all Windows boxes. 
We have a few Win2000 but most are Win2003 (no 2008 just yet). Scavenging is 
set to 7 days.

When running an nslookup by hostname or FQDN, it returns a message saying 
"non-existent domain". Sometimes, other machines in that lab may respond.

I have checked the configs for our different zones and they look the same. This 
issue only affects the one zone that is used for our computer labs.

And we are a single site.

I think that was just about all the questions. Let me know if there is more I 
can provide to help get this resolved.

Thanks everyone!

Craig



From: Stephan Barr on behalf of lists
Sent: Thu 29-Jan-09 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird DNS issue
Tell us more please.  One subnet or more? Windows version.  All in one site or 
more?  What does your DNS config look like?

Cheers.


From: Sauvigne, Craig M [mailto:sauvig...@winthrop.edu]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird DNS issue

Okay. I have something odd going on that I can't seem to nail down.

I work for a University and we have a home-grown system that monitors all the 
lab computers around campus to see if someone is logged on (headcount 
tracking). Every few weeks, that system will suddenly show labs as empty that 
are not. In troubleshooting, we have found that those empty seats result from 
those machines having lost their record in DNS. The machines can't be pinged by 
hostname since there is no DNS entry anymore. The machines are still online 
(ping by IP works, remote management by IP works, computer is still usable). It 
just drops out of DNS. Today this happened in the middle of the day. The 
machines worked fine until around 1pm or 2pm. I don't show anything in logs on 
the DNS servers that look relevant.

Does anyone have any ideas on what I can look for? It is an odd one because it 
is random when it happens and random as to which machines are affected. It 
usually h

RE: AD design question

[Brian Desmond]

Hi Chris-

I don't particularly like that choice of words, but...

In a single domain forest you need to mark all your DCs as GCs so that they 
listen on 3268. You still need GCs to exist, simply if you query a GC it will 
always return the exact same results as if you query a DC.

You definitely don't need UGC and in general I don't expect hardly anyone needs 
it in a multidomain forest.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: AD design question

Working on a design for a Windows 2008 domain. My question is in regards to 
DC/GC placement and use. Specifically if we decide to go with a single domain 
model, it's my understanding that all DCs can authenticate logon requests, GCs 
are not required for logon:


In a single-domain forest, all domain controllers act as "virtual global 
catalog servers" in that they can all respond to any authentication or service 
request.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc737269.aspx

If this is correct, I would assume that Universal Group Membership caching 
would not be needed either. Can anyone confirm/deny/elaborate on this?

Thank you,




Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003









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RE: WSUS In a child Domain

[Troy Meyer]

What does the local administrators group contain on the child WSUS server?

-troy

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Anderson [mailto:jer...@mapiadmin.net] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: WSUS In a child Domain

I am trying to manager my Child domain WSUS server from the parent domain.  I 
am logging in to my workstation as an "Enterprise admin" ( I know - don't yell 
at me about Security) and my user account is in the WSUS Admins group.  The 
WSUS admin security group only exist in the parent domain, not the child 
domain.  The Child domain WSUS server is a downstream server to the Parent 
domain WSUS server and it is syncing properly.  Whan I try to add the child 
domain WSUS server to the WSUS Console, (By using the FQDN) I recieve the error 
:
 
"Cannot connect to Server.FQDN.local.  You do not have premission required to 
access thiss WSUS Server.  To Connect to the server you must be a member of the 
WSUS Administrators or WSUS Reporters Security Groups"
 
I am a member of thoes groups in the parent domain, and thoes groups dont exist 
in the child domain.
 
What am I missing here?
 
TIA
 
Jeremy


 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

WSUS In a child Domain

[Jeremy Anderson]

I am trying to manager my Child domain WSUS server from the parent domain.  I 
am logging in to my workstation as an "Enterprise admin" ( I know - don't yell 
at me about Security) and my user account is in the WSUS Admins group.  The 
WSUS admin security group only exist in the parent domain, not the child 
domain.  The Child domain WSUS server is a downstream server to the Parent 
domain WSUS server and it is syncing properly.  Whan I try to add the child 
domain WSUS server to the WSUS Console, (By using the FQDN) I recieve the error 
:

"Cannot connect to Server.FQDN.local.  You do not have premission required to 
access thiss WSUS Server.  To Connect to the server you must be a member of the 
WSUS Administrators or WSUS Reporters Security Groups"

I am a member of thoes groups in the parent domain, and thoes groups dont exist 
in the child domain.

What am I missing here?

TIA

Jeremy

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: UserAccountControl flags for NT4

[Jeff Bunting]

We discussed that briefly yesterday, but it is a production network, and I'd
be scared to do so since I my theory is that the accounts database on the
BDC is suspect.

I was hoping to be able to compare account info on each DC with nltest and
find differences, but after a couple of tests I'm finding I don't know how
to interpret the results, as they don't match the KB article.  I'm wondering
if NT4 has different flags, and perhaps some that aren't documented in that
article.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Christopher Bodnar <
christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote:

>  Any chance you could flip the roles? Promote the current BDC to PDC,
> which will demote the current PDC to BDC. See if you still see the problem.
> This may not be possible in a production network.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris Bodnar, MCSE
> Sr. Systems Engineer
> Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
> Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
> Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com
> Phone: 610-807-6459
> Fax: 610-807-6003
>   --
>
> *From:* bunting.j...@gmail.com [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2009 10:47 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
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RE: Weird DNS issue which I think is really a DHCP issue

[Sauvigne, Craig M]

Here is an update to my DNS issue. I was focusing on one of our two domains 
since that is the only place there were issues. Now I have heard it is 
happening in the other domain. I have narrowed down the problem. Here is what I 
am seeing.

 

We have three servers:

 

SVR1 - DNS

SVR2 - DHCP

SVR3 - DNS and DHCP

 

A client requests and DHCP-assigned IP from SVR3: Everything works as expected. 
If a client requests from SVR2, it received and IP address and it shows in 
DHCP. However, neither DNS server gets updated. I can see the DHCP entry has an 
icon with a pen on it meaning it is waiting to write to DNS. Those are the 
facts.

 

Here is my speculation. Each time I reboot SVR2, everything will work for a 
certain time (haven't had time to figure out how long that is just yet). At 
some point, that DHCP server stops updating DNS. Then DNS goes through its 
scavenging and cleans out those records since it thinks they are stale.

 

Aside from scheduling a server reboot within the scavenging period, does anyone 
have any suggestions? I have reset the credentials so that is not a problem. I 
do have reverse DNS set up. Any other suggestions?

 

Thanks!

 

Craig

 

From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird DNS issue

 

You might set some auditing on the DNS containers in AD such that events get 
logged when the entries get deleted and see where it's coming from. I'd venture 
to guess that your records aren't being refreshed for one reason or another and 
are thus being scavenged.

 

Don't forget there are two scavenging settings:

 

è The interval the actual thread runs (this is on the properties of the DNS 
server in the UI)

è The timeout for the zone (this is on the properties of the zone, Advanced tab 
or something similar in the UI)

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

br...@briandesmond.com

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: Sauvigne, Craig M [mailto:sauvig...@winthrop.edu] 
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird DNS issue

 

I sent this earlier but had a technical issue so it may not have gone out. Here 
it is again.

 

Let's see if I can answer everyone's questions. I should have given all this 
info in my original post but was rushed while trying to send it.

 

The DNS entry does actually disappear from the zone on the DNS servers (we have 
two and the entries are gone from both). Each building (which means each lab) 
is in a different subnet.

 

We are a Windows shop so our DNS, DHCP, AD (obviously) are all Windows boxes. 
We have a few Win2000 but most are Win2003 (no 2008 just yet). Scavenging is 
set to 7 days.

 

When running an nslookup by hostname or FQDN, it returns a message saying 
"non-existent domain". Sometimes, other machines in that lab may respond. 

 

I have checked the configs for our different zones and they look the same. This 
issue only affects the one zone that is used for our computer labs. 

 

And we are a single site.

 

I think that was just about all the questions. Let me know if there is more I 
can provide to help get this resolved.

 

Thanks everyone!

 

Craig

 

 



From: Stephan Barr on behalf of lists
Sent: Thu 29-Jan-09 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Weird DNS issue

Tell us more please.  One subnet or more? Windows version.  All in one site or 
more?  What does your DNS config look like?

 

Cheers.

 



From: Sauvigne, Craig M [mailto:sauvig...@winthrop.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Weird DNS issue

 

Okay. I have something odd going on that I can't seem to nail down.

 

I work for a University and we have a home-grown system that monitors all the 
lab computers around campus to see if someone is logged on (headcount 
tracking). Every few weeks, that system will suddenly show labs as empty that 
are not. In troubleshooting, we have found that those empty seats result from 
those machines having lost their record in DNS. The machines can't be pinged by 
hostname since there is no DNS entry anymore. The machines are still online 
(ping by IP works, remote management by IP works, computer is still usable). It 
just drops out of DNS. Today this happened in the middle of the day. The 
machines worked fine until around 1pm or 2pm. I don't show anything in logs on 
the DNS servers that look relevant.

 

Does anyone have any ideas on what I can look for? It is an odd one because it 
is random when it happens and random as to which machines are affected. It 
usually happens to a full lab of computers but other machines in that building 
are unaffected.

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

 

Thanks.

 



Craig M. Sauvigne

System Administrator

Winthrop University

Rock Hill, SC 29733

sauvig...@winthrop.edu

SC143

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Fi

RE: Del *.bak after 7 days

[Glen Johnson]

I haven't taken the time decode any of it, but I believe some folks were
doing this deliberately last week.

Look back at the upside down text thread.

Prolly some Andy/Ben/Martin/. humor.

 

From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Del *.bak after 7 days

 


Me too, but thought it was the crappy Lotus Notes client that we use
instead of something proper, like Thunderbird, I won't even go anywhere
near lookOut of any description. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 



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I have been seing it for a few days.  I am also getting these strange
square boxes in some others mail.  Some time they are there sometime
they are not. 
  
Jon

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote: 
Fascinating!  Did anyone else get Angus's email encoded? Or is just
Gmail puking?

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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming
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>

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Re: Microsoft to put us out of a job. Or not, LOL

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

exactly.

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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Peter van Houten  wrote:
> Apologies ~ couldn't resist following this story:
>
> http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=167869
>
> On the 06/02/2009 17:55, Cameron Cooper wrote the following:
>>
>> Her bio scares me.
>>
>> ___
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>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Microsoft to put us out of a job. Or not, LOL
>>
>> Ina Fried scares me.
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>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10157210-56.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesAr
>> ea.1
>>>
>>> Customer: "Hey my machine is slow"
>>>
>>> Microsoft: "Click the 'Fix it' button and Windows will be removed an
>>
>> Linux
>>>
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>>>
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RE: PS/2 issues (reformatted)

[Ames Matthew B]

Tried all combinations of keyboards (USB & PS/2) and the same with the
mice.  With a USB keyboard it did not lock up the mouse, but no typing
was possible.  I formatted and reinstalled this morning.  Seemed the
easiest thing to do.  Now just the painful job of installing everything
again!

Booting from a Bart PE style of disk the original PS/2 kb & mouse were
fine.

Oh well! 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 05 February 2009 15:57
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PS/2 issues (reformatted)

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Ames Matthew B 
wrote:
> Seems strange how the keyboard seems to be fine until the first press 
> of a key after windows as booted.

  I agree, but computers do weird things sometimes.  It's really easy to
try another keyboard and/or mouse.  Diagnosing a broken Windows install
can sometimes approach the impossible.  (Re-imaging is a common practice
for a reason.)

  In particular, try:

  ... unplugging the PS/2 mouse (if any) and using just the keyboard.

  ... a different PS/2 keyboard (with and/or without same mouse).

  ... a USB keyboard and/or mouse instead of PS/2 flavors.

  ... booting an OS from CD (e.g., Win rescue console, Bart PE, Linux
live CD, etc.) to see if the problem occurs with a different OS
installation instance.

-- Ben

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DPM issue

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Anyone ever come across this issue - Recovery Manager was unable to create a 
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protecting and oddly enough it's the only server in the same subnet.
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RE: UserAccountControl flags for NT4

[Christopher Bodnar]

Any chance you could flip the roles? Promote the current BDC to PDC, which
will demote the current PDC to BDC. See if you still see the problem. This
may not be possible in a production network. 

 

 

 

Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Sr. Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
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To: NT System Admin Issues
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RE: DPM Prerequisite software

[Bob Fronk]

That is the update I mentioned.  It is already applied.

From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DPM Prerequisite software

Protected clients need hotfix 940349. See

From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 8:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DPM Prerequisite software

I am running into an issue I can't figure out.  DPM 2007 installed and able to 
protect some servers.  However, when setting up a protection group for a few 
servers, the error pops that "this item cannot be protected because some 
prerequisite software is not missing"

I have checked and re-installed the vss update rollup.

The SQL servers are running 2000 SP4.

The Exchange server is 2003 patched and up-to-date.

The MS Virtual Server is 2005 R2 SP1.

The OS on all the servers is 2003 patched and up-to-date service pack.

I am obviously missing something.  Any DPM experts have an idea?











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Re: Microsoft to put us out of a job. Or not, LOL

[Peter van Houten]

Apologies ~ couldn't resist following this story:

http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/showthread.php?t=167869

On the 06/02/2009 17:55, Cameron Cooper wrote the following:

Her bio scares me.

___
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IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Microsoft to put us out of a job. Or not, LOL

Ina Fried scares me.

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On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM, David Lum  wrote:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10157210-56.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesAr
ea.1


Customer: "Hey my machine is slow"

Microsoft: "Click the 'Fix it' button and Windows will be removed an

Linux

will be installed"

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


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Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Sherry Abercrombie]

WebSense.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  How are you blocking it?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2009 10:49 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to
> install a P2P client)
>
>
>
> Thanks Peter.  This is getting blocked at our office right now.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
> wrote:
>
> Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
> (link may wrap):
> --
>
> On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:
>
> [Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss more
> when it
> has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure, I'm
> mentioned in the article. - Ryan]
>
> The article is long, but here is the main concept:
>
> "Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
> application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
> live video to other viewers."
>
> This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
> other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
> But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
> network.  As mentioned in the article:
>
> "Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
> application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
> software, hackers could exploit the weakness."
>
> http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
> -with-CNN >
> We have already found several systems on our network that have this
> installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
> this could be something you might want to check into on your own
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Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

CNN are out of their G.D. minds...  Looks like I'll be pissing a bunch
of users off today, but security first with an iron fist.

Peter, thanks for passing this along!

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On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Sherry Abercrombie  wrote:
> Thanks Peter.  This is getting blocked at our office right now.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten  wrote:
>>
>> Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
>> (link may wrap):
>> --
>>
>> On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:
>>>
>>> [Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss more
>>> when it
>>> has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure, I'm
>>> mentioned in the article. - Ryan]
>>>
>>> The article is long, but here is the main concept:
>>>
>>> "Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
>>> application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
>>> live video to other viewers."
>>>
>>> This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
>>> other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
>>> But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
>>> network.  As mentioned in the article:
>>>
>>> "Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
>>> application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
>>> software, hackers could exploit the weakness."
>>>
>>> http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
>>> -with-CNN >
>>> We have already found several systems on our network that have this
>>> installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
>>> this could be something you might want to check into on your own
>>> networks.
>>>
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RE: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a P2P client)

[Louis, Joe]

This was something that was big during the inauguration. I read it 
somewhere...think it was on SANs or a similar site.

Joe Louis
Systems Network Manager

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Warning (watching live video on CNN requires you to install a 
P2P client)

Thanks Peter.  This is getting blocked at our office right now.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Peter van Houten 
mailto:peter...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Heads up for those not subscribed to Patch Management
(link may wrap):
--

On the 05/02/2009 23:49, Brandon Pearson wrote the following:
[Moderator's note: Off-topic for discussion, but FYI. We can discuss more when 
it
has a security hole and we need to patch it. :) Also fair disclosure, I'm
mentioned in the article. - Ryan]

The article is long, but here is the main concept:

"Clicking "yes" to a CNN.com dialog box installed a peer-to-peer (P2P)
application that uses your Internet bandwidth rather than CNN's to send
live video to other viewers."

This bothers me.  Even if all it is used for is to share the feed out to
other users, there's still the issue of bandwidth overhead to deal with.
But more concerning is that it might introduce a backdoor into a secure
network.  As mentioned in the article:

"Any Web site you visit that is "Octoshape aware" can invoke the
application. If a security vulnerability is discovered in the Octoshape
software, hackers could exploit the weakness."

http://windowssecrets.com/2009/02/05/01-Watch-a-live-video-share-your-PC
-with-CNN >
We have already found several systems on our network that have this
installed and are taking steps to remove it from the systems now but
this could be something you might want to check into on your own
networks.

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