RE: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

2009-09-04 Thread Cliff Partlow
Careful he has one of his czars watching this list, and he is taking names.
Or not :-)

 

 

From The Sunny Side Of The Street!

Cliff P.

 

From: MarvinC [mailto:marv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

 

I agree! Please don't use this as a soap box for whatever obvious issues you
have against the President or his administration and their efforts to
include technology as a medium for reaching our YOUTH! Lord forgive him and
the others that have tried this same method. Wait, no, there have been no
other presidents to reach out through our youth via a technical medium. What
on earth is he thinking! The fact that you'd use a list geared towards
helping technical professionals to make this point is a contradiction within
itself. 

While I respect the technical mindsets that help to drive this list and
provide help to those of us in need I can't tell you how scary most of you
sound and look through your OT posts. I agree with keeping the posts
dedicated to the technical and pushing OT to other lists. Maybe create
another list geared towards supporting political propaganda.

I don't think it matters how technically proficient you are, if you lack the
ability to recognize anyone's attempt to utilize technology as one of many
ways to reach our YOUTH then you've obviously lost sight of the simple
beauty that technology represents, which is GROWTH!

 

I say nuke this post!!! 

.02

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote:

OK.  Please, just stop.  This is not the proper place for this
discussion.  I don't care which side of the fence you're on, or if you
even know.  Take it to Admin_Misc, or Free Republic, or Daily Kos, or
wherever.  Stu is literally hovering over his keyboard, ready to push
his It's time to move on hot key combination.  Let's save him the
trouble, shall we?

And besides, our non-US brethren could care less anyway.

I'm happy to discuss it.  Just not here.


rs

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RE: SPAM Solution

2009-09-04 Thread tony patton
I rebuild my desktop at home roughly every six months just for the fun of 
it, it's a lot less hassle than removing all the crap I install to take a 
look at.

I always take a ghost image of it just before I blow it away as there is 
always something that I forgot to copy, the final straw was when I didn't 
realise the wife had over 10gig of photos sitting on her desktop, but she 
had a gog of them also under her temp folder.

Frosty reception for a while after that :-)

That's why I keep an old dell gx-270 under the desk, incase I forget a 
driver or do something else stupid.
UBCD4Windows also comes in very handy at times for a rebuild as well.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov
To:
NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:
03/09/2009 21:12
Subject:
RE: SPAM Solution



local drives, with no backup at the moment.  I personally don't have a lot 
to lose on my computer, but my wife would kill me if she lost her music... 
 I've been thinking about Mozy, or something like that, but haven't gotten 
around to it.  My machines at home are home-built, and the newest is about 
2-3 years old now.  About all we do on them, really, is listen to music, 
and play MMOs... 

If a computer crashed, I'd have to build from scratch.

 Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 10:15 AM 
What do you do for file storage? Local C: drives and backups? If so, to
what?

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:16 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
 
 I have a computer room, with 3 desktops connecting through a router to
 my cable modem.  My daughter connects from her room, through wireless
 to the same router.  That's as complicated as I get at home, unless I
 fire up my Ubuntu box, which I'm using for learning purposes, but even
 then, I unplug the third computer to do that.
 
 Unfortunately, that room is the hottest room in the house to begin
 with, doesn't get the same flow through the AC duct as the rest of the
 house, so my cooling bill is pretty outrageous in the summer.
 
 That's not saying that I wouldn't like to do some other stuff, like
 poke around with virtualization, etc., but I don't have the budget to
 go out and buy hardware for it, and don't really have space for it
 either.
 
  Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 8:00 AM 
 Meh... I had ESXi running at home before we decided to go in on the
 business.
 
 At a cost of free, and with the flexibility you get, I don't see why
 you would NOT do it on a home net, unless you had some specific
 hardware
 you needed that ESXi choked on.
 
 And the home net _IS_ for play/non-work use. Music streaming, photo
 library, home movie streaming, interweb access, IP phone service,
 online
 Netflix/dish network, Exchange server, hobby mailing list servers,
 etc...
 
 Doesn't just about everybody have a home net these days? I'd only
 expect
 the nerds like us here to actually run a domain and have an IIS
server,
 but we're also the audience that would likely then benefit from having
 a
 virtual infrastructure too...
 
 Last time I needed to move a server to a newer hardware platform it
was
 just a file copy 
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:49 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
 
  Key words for you Steven, were business startup.  When I'm at
home,
  work is the farthest from my mind, if at all possible.  I play at
 home,
  work at work...
 
   Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 7:32 AM 
  Really?
 
  I have four ESXi hosts, one pair handling my home network, and
 another
  pair handling the production, dev, and test VM's, along with VPN and
  SharePoint servers for a business startup I'm involved with.
 
  I'd bet lotsa' folks here have ESXi at home...
 
  -sc
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
   Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:25 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: Re: SPAM Solution
  
   You, sir, have just gone to the top of the geek list, for having
 ESXi
   and VMs installed at home...
  
tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 9/3/2009 12:21
AM
  
   +1 for untangle, i have it running in a vm on esxi at home, really
  like
   it
   and pretty easy to set up.
  
   Regards
  
   Tony Patton
   Desktop Operations Cavan
   Ext 8078
   Direct Dial 049 435 2878
   email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 
  
  
  
   From:
   Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com
   To:
   NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
   Date:
   03/09/2009 02:59
   Subject:
   Re: SPAM Solution
  
  
  
   I think Sunbelt's Ninja/VIPRE is a great choice for an in-house
   Exchange-based solution and should 

Re: SPAM Solution

2009-09-04 Thread tony patton
+1 on home setup not being work, get to play with stuff that I can't at 
work and keep the brain occupied.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
To:
NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:
03/09/2009 21:05
Subject:
Re: SPAM Solution



I think the business startup is ancillary to the discussion.

There are more than a few of us that have fairly substantial networks at 
home.  Some with virtualization, even.  I don't call working on my home 
network work.  It's both a hobby and career improvement.


-ASB  - http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker



On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote:
Key words for you Steven, were business startup.  When I'm at home, work 
is the farthest from my mind, if at all possible.  I play at home, work at 
work...

 Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 7:32 AM 
Really?

I have four ESXi hosts, one pair handling my home network, and another
pair handling the production, dev, and test VM's, along with VPN and
SharePoint servers for a business startup I'm involved with.

I'd bet lotsa' folks here have ESXi at home...

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:25 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: SPAM Solution

 You, sir, have just gone to the top of the geek list, for having ESXi
 and VMs installed at home...

  tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 9/3/2009 12:21 AM

 +1 for untangle, i have it running in a vm on esxi at home, really
like
 it
 and pretty easy to set up.

 Regards

 Tony Patton
 Desktop Operations Cavan
 Ext 8078
 Direct Dial 049 435 2878
 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



 From:
 Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com
 To:
 NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Date:
 03/09/2009 02:59
 Subject:
 Re: SPAM Solution



 I think Sunbelt's Ninja/VIPRE is a great choice for an in-house
 Exchange-based solution and should be in your short list of products
 for
 consideration.

 Another option for an in the cloud solution is Postini by Google
 Message
 Security.  Last fall I switched two networks to it at just
$3/user/year
 for inbound filtering.  It's been nearly perfect but I don't know if
 they
 still offer that same minimal service at that price.

 You might want to check out UnTangle (http://www.untangle.com/home).
 It's
 not too difficult to install and will probably meet your client's
needs
 for the cost of a spare PC.


 Roger Wright
 ___




 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Matt Plahtinsky cbusitl...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 I have a client that is really tight on money.  I need to implement a
 Anti-SPAM solution.  In the past I have worked with 3 different
 products
 Barracuda, GFI, and xWall.  My favorite by far is Barracuda b/c of the
 ability to easily sort through the logs to tighten the rules.  I HATE
 GFI,  it might be a good product but I was never able to get it to
work
 well for me.

 This client currently has GFI (which is up for renewal) and I don't
 think
 I they can afford a Barracuda appliance.  I'm going to be looking at
 VIPRE
 but didn't know if there were any other reasonably priced solutions I
 should be evaluating.

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Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread James Rankin
Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?

I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
(or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
file level.

I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.

2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




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Re: OT Funny/Lame: RDP Infinite Loop

2009-09-04 Thread RichardMcClary
Classic - thanks!
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 I made RDP divide by zero!  (Was trying to test RDP from home into 
 the same box).  lol.
 
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RE: change operatins master

2009-09-04 Thread Ken Schaefer
Client numbers are irrelevant. Infrastructure Master works by comparing what it 
has in its database with what a GC has in its. If you make the IM a GC, then 
when it compares its db with another GC there are no differences. And the IM 
then doesn't do anything.

If you only have a single domain, then GCs don't store anything more than 
regular DCs. If all the DCs in the domain are also GCs, then there's nothing 
for the IM to do anyway.

But if you have 1 domain, and not all DCs are GCs, then you need the IM to do 
things. And that means the IM can not be on a GC.

Cheers
Ken

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 4 September 2009 5:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: change operatins master

That warning does not apply to a single (small) domain model if I remember 
correctly.  You would have issues if this were a multi-domain, large number of 
clients type of setting.

Jon
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, James Kerr 
cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote:
ok it seems I will be ok transferring this role to a single DC since this is a 
single forest single domain setup. Thanks for the help Erik.

James
- Original Message -
From: James Kerrmailto:cluster...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: change operatins master

Thanks, going from ADUC on the 2003 DC did the trick. Now I'm reminded of 
something. Getting a popup stating that infrastructure master role should not 
be transferred to a GC server. Argh, its going to be the only server at that 
site. Do I have really need to have two DCs at a small site? What may happen if 
I hit yes to transfer the role?
- Original Message -
From: Erik Goldoffmailto:egold...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: change operatins master

but no other servers in the list ???

Does the new server show up in Domain Controllers' container in ADUC ?

ok, in ADUC, right click on the domain.local and you should have an option to 
connect to another server, pick the one you want to house the role 
then click on Operations master and click the CHANGE button

OR, if you did this from the 2008 server, the change should already be set with 
the old server holding the role, and the new server in the second position to 
Change to




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Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Terri Esham
That's exactly what I do, but I need the folders to not lose their share
permissions so users can still access the share over the network.

Thanks, Terri

Brian Desmond said the following on 9/3/2009 10:07 PM:
 Hi Terri-

 Others have chimed in with tools, but, I'll add the other part. Why are you 
 using share permissions? They aren't granular and they just add confusion. 
 Manage all your ACLs on NTFS (where you can do whatever you want more or 
 less), and just grant Everyone:FC on shares.

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 br...@briandesmond.com

 c - 312.731.3132

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 -Original Message-
 From: Terri Esham [mailto:terri.es...@noaa.gov]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to 
 Another

 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one SAN 
 disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the NTFS 
 permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large amount of 
 folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have to recreate all 
 the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all critical 
 updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Terri Esham
That is what I do.  I set the share permission to everyone full rights
and use NTFS permissions.  I obviously, didn't word my problem
correctly.  I just need the folders to show up as a share once they are
moved so users can access them over the network.

Thanks, Terri

James Rankin said the following on 9/4/2009 3:46 AM:
 Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?

 I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
 (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
 to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
 file level.

 I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
 and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
 reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.

 2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
   
 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 



   

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Terri Esham
I think I've solved my problem.  I might be able to use the Microsoft
File Server Migration tool to move the files.  I'll try that.

Thanks for all your help.

Terri

Jonathan Link said the following on 9/3/2009 9:18 PM:
 And for copying, I'm partial to robocopy for the mirroring/security
 copying.  Mirroring is useful if you have a narrow window for a
 transition.  Run it once to do the bulk initial copy, then again right
 before the transition to the new disk/volue/device/whatever.

 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Share permissions can be copied via PERMCOPY from one of the older
 resource kits (2000 or 2003, IIRC)

 See also:  http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/?File=Perms.TXT
 http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/?File=Perms.TXT and
 http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=DupPerms-A.BAT
 http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=DupPerms-A.BAT

 -ASB
  http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker




 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov
 mailto:terri.es...@noaa.gov wrote:

 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions
 from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did
 copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move
 a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't
 want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri


  

  


  

  

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Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread James Rankin
Back in the day you used to have to export Registry permissions for
the shares, but I think in this modern age the File Server Migration
Tool does the trick as mentioned by someone earlier

2009/9/4 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
 That is what I do.  I set the share permission to everyone full rights and
 use NTFS permissions.  I obviously, didn't word my problem correctly.  I
 just need the folders to show up as a share once they are moved so users can
 access them over the network.

 Thanks, Terri

 James Rankin said the following on 9/4/2009 3:46 AM:

 Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?

 I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
 (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
 to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
 file level.

 I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
 and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
 reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.

 2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:


 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~











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into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question.

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

2009-09-04 Thread Maglinger, Paul
I absolutely refuse to comment on this thread.  (oops!) 

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

This is WOFT [1], and is SFA [2]. Particularly so after the rash of OT
[3] posts that have recently been hitting this list.  I was really
hoping things were getting back to normal.  Can't these things at
least be saved until Friday?

And OK, my interests are peaked.  Is this FUD [4]?  I ask because the
only sites online I see reference this are nothing I would concider
trustworthy news sources.  The White House blog makes no mention of
such an agenda for the 8th [5].

1.  Way Off F***ing Topic
2.  Super F***ing Annoying
3.  Off Topic
4.  Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
5.  http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/My-Education-My-Future/

--
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Giannamoregene.giannam...@abideinternational.com wrote:
 WOT = way off topic or wide open throttle?



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 whereby he may address our youth directly asserting his influence on
 educational policy.  This is political in nature and subject to differences
 of opinion to-which adults may debate but should be transparent to our youth
 (especially 4-12 years old).  A live broadcast does not allow parents
 sufficient time to counter the influence of the leader of the free 
 worldÿÿ(tm)s
 perspective on education.
 No usurpation of parental rights.  Parents have the unequivocal right to
 guide their children in matters of politics, religion, morality, and etc.
 The president may have rights and responsibilities to speak to the public,
 but will violate parental rights by speaking to minors directly without
 supplying a written transcript or preview of the broadcast.
 No captive audience.  Without and Opt-in policy by the Livermore Valley
 Joint Unified School District , our children will be a captive audience to
 the influence of a politician.  I believe need not make mention of
 historical abuses of this power by other nations.



 No matter how benign the Presidential address may seem, it reduces our
 liberty and our authority over our own children.  So if you do not force our
 students to watch either by not broadcasting or having parents Opt-in, then
 you show your dedication to parental rights and authority.



 Thank you,

 Livermore parents







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Ian Roche
I used Robocopy to migrate the company fil servers data onto new hardware 
.Retaing all permissions I used the /COPYALL switch and it worked a treat.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Between that, and Google's distributed commodity storage model, I think
there's some real compelling point for consideration for how some
specific-purpose resources can be provided.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k
 
 Wow, that might acutally satisfy our DBAs... for a year or two...  :-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k
 
 http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-
 build-
 cheap-cloud-storage/
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Realtek NIC issues

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
This is true from a performance issue as well, not just reliability.

RealTek cards have notoriously had sucky buffer designs.

Yes... that's a technical term.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:31 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Realtek NIC issues
 
 Did you try the latest driver from Fujitsu?
 
 My experience is that the latest driver from RealTek doesn't always
 play
 nice.
 
 You are correct in your assessment that RealTek ethernet controllers
 are
 of inferior quality. Cards with Intel and Broadcom controllers cost
 more, and this is a situation where you get what you pay for.
 
 pierre.camill...@fosterclark.com wrote:
  Hi all
 
  I thought of posting this here just in case someone has encountered
 this
  issue before. We have a number of Fujitsu R570 workstations with
 onboard
  RealTek NICs. These are RTL 8168DP/8111DP Family PCI-E GBE type.
 We've
  been having intermittent issues with some of them. Sometimes they
  initialise, sometimes they don't. Meaning that when powering up the
  workstation and logging into Windows XP we get no network
 connectivity.
  When powering down the workstations and powering them up again after
  some time then the issue gets resolved. We also tried forcing the
  network speed on our HP switch and the NIC card i.e. we set them to
 100
  FDx.
  We're finding these issues very strange. By any chance does high
 humidty
  affect NICs? We've noted that Fujitsu in the past used to use
 Broadcom
  for their on-board NICs. Now it seems they're using Realtek. I think
  that Realtek are inferior in quality.
  Would appreciate any comments on this.
 
 --
 
 Phil Brutsche
 p...@optimumdata.com
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: SPAM Solution

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Lol...

 

I've just not bothered looking.

 

I was hoping for a net decrease when I finally retired the 14-drive SCSI
drive array[1], but the additional horsepower of the new servers has
seemed o slightly increase the BTU load in my equipment closet.

 

-sc

 

[1]-An Compaq fiber-attached array with 18GB discs in a RAID 5. I've had
that unit for 10+ years, in multiple harsh environments, and it endured
a cross-country move and subsequent loading in and out of storage while
we house shopped here... and I think I only lost one drive.  Compaq made
themselves some tough hardware back in the day.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SPAM Solution

 

Only $20-30?  LOL

My wife occasionally prays for power outages...

-ASB - http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker




On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM, N Parr npar...@mortonind.com wrote:

Bah!, it's required for true geektum.  Running Vsphere 4 at home for
months now.  I had a cobbled together Dell Precision workstation and was
running ESX 3.5 on it.  When we upgraded our triad at work to get the
CPU's to all match I talked my boss in to letting me take home the
Poweredge 2900 that didn't match any more.  Dual Quad Xeon's with 24 gig
of ram and about a TB of internal 15k SAS.  Then I put together a
storage server and installed Starwinds free ISCSI server on it.  So now
I can do full blown vmotion on shared storage between the Precision and
Poweredge.   And my electric bill has only gone up $20-30/month.  ;^)



-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: SPAM Solution

You, sir, have just gone to the top of the geek list, for having ESXi
and VMs installed at home...

 tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 9/3/2009 12:21 AM 
+1 for untangle, i have it running in a vm on esxi at home, really like
+it
and pretty easy to set up.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com
To:
NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:
03/09/2009 02:59
Subject:
Re: SPAM Solution



I think Sunbelt's Ninja/VIPRE is a great choice for an in-house
Exchange-based solution and should be in your short list of products for
consideration.

Another option for an in the cloud solution is Postini by Google
Message Security.  Last fall I switched two networks to it at just
$3/user/year for inbound filtering.  It's been nearly perfect but I
don't know if they still offer that same minimal service at that price.

You might want to check out UnTangle (http://www.untangle.com/home).
It's not too difficult to install and will probably meet your client's
needs for the cost of a spare PC.


Roger Wright
___




On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Matt Plahtinsky cbusitl...@gmail.com
wrote:
I have a client that is really tight on money.  I need to implement a
Anti-SPAM solution.  In the past I have worked with 3 different products
Barracuda, GFI, and xWall.  My favorite by far is Barracuda b/c of the
ability to easily sort through the logs to tighten the rules.  I HATE
GFI,  it might be a good product but I was never able to get it to work
well for me.

This client currently has GFI (which is up for renewal) and I don't
think I they can afford a Barracuda appliance.  I'm going to be looking
at VIPRE but didn't know if there were any other reasonably priced
solutions I should be evaluating.

Exchange 2003 / 60 email accounts / old hardware.

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SPAM Solution

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
No pictures? Tax/financial records? Home video?

A file server (even just using OS software RAID) is amazingly cheap to
acquire.

I've suffered multiple individual component failures in desktops and
servers at home, but have never lost a lick of important data...
including music.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
 
 local drives, with no backup at the moment.  I personally don't have a
 lot to lose on my computer, but my wife would kill me if she lost her
 music...  I've been thinking about Mozy, or something like that, but
 haven't gotten around to it.  My machines at home are home-built, and
 the newest is about 2-3 years old now.  About all we do on them,
 really, is listen to music, and play MMOs...
 
 If a computer crashed, I'd have to build from scratch.
 
  Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 10:15 AM 
 What do you do for file storage? Local C: drives and backups? If so,
to
 what?
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:16 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
 
  I have a computer room, with 3 desktops connecting through a router
 to
  my cable modem.  My daughter connects from her room, through
wireless
  to the same router.  That's as complicated as I get at home, unless
I
  fire up my Ubuntu box, which I'm using for learning purposes, but
 even
  then, I unplug the third computer to do that.
 
  Unfortunately, that room is the hottest room in the house to begin
  with, doesn't get the same flow through the AC duct as the rest of
 the
  house, so my cooling bill is pretty outrageous in the summer.
 
  That's not saying that I wouldn't like to do some other stuff, like
  poke around with virtualization, etc., but I don't have the budget
to
  go out and buy hardware for it, and don't really have space for it
  either.
 
   Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 8:00 AM 
  Meh... I had ESXi running at home before we decided to go in on the
  business.
 
  At a cost of free, and with the flexibility you get, I don't see
 why
  you would NOT do it on a home net, unless you had some specific
  hardware
  you needed that ESXi choked on.
 
  And the home net _IS_ for play/non-work use. Music streaming, photo
  library, home movie streaming, interweb access, IP phone service,
  online
  Netflix/dish network, Exchange server, hobby mailing list servers,
  etc...
 
  Doesn't just about everybody have a home net these days? I'd only
  expect
  the nerds like us here to actually run a domain and have an IIS
 server,
  but we're also the audience that would likely then benefit from
 having
  a
  virtual infrastructure too...
 
  Last time I needed to move a server to a newer hardware platform it
 was
  just a file copy 
 
  -sc
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
   Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:49 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
  
   Key words for you Steven, were business startup.  When I'm at
 home,
   work is the farthest from my mind, if at all possible.  I play at
  home,
   work at work...
  
Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 7:32 AM

   Really?
  
   I have four ESXi hosts, one pair handling my home network, and
  another
   pair handling the production, dev, and test VM's, along with VPN
 and
   SharePoint servers for a business startup I'm involved with.
  
   I'd bet lotsa' folks here have ESXi at home...
  
   -sc
  
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SPAM Solution
   
You, sir, have just gone to the top of the geek list, for having
  ESXi
and VMs installed at home...
   
 tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 9/3/2009 12:21
 AM
   
+1 for untangle, i have it running in a vm on esxi at home,
 really
   like
it
and pretty easy to set up.
   
Regards
   
Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com
   
   
   
From:
Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com
To:
NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:
03/09/2009 02:59
Subject:
Re: SPAM Solution
   
   
   
I think Sunbelt's Ninja/VIPRE is a great choice for an in-house
Exchange-based solution and should be in your short list of
  products
for
consideration.
   
Another option for an in the cloud solution is Postini by
 Google
Message
Security.  Last fall I switched two networks to it at just
   $3/user/year
for inbound filtering.  It's been nearly perfect but I don't
know
  if
they
still offer that same minimal 

RE: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Thou shalt buy Intel NICS.

 

-sc

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit

 

Looking to add NICs to a Windows 2008R2 server (installed 64 bit) and
find that my old supply of 3Com 3c905B-TX aren't recognized, and no
64-bit drivers are on the 3Com site ...

 

s..

 

Any recommendations for 100 or 1000 ethernet adapters that have 64 bit
drivers and/or are recognized by Win2008 ?

 

Thanks

 

( this is for a lab system, not a mission critical production box )

 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Basic info:

 

What's the error?

 

Name resolution?

 

Ping IP/connectivity?

 

Accessing via NetBIOS or DNS names?

 

IPCONFIG /ALL output?

 

-sc

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

 

32-bit XP Pro.  The VPN does connect - no problem there.



Roger Wright
___

Sent from Tampa, Florida, United States

 

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Terry Dickson
te...@treasurer.state.ks.us wrote:

OK crazy question but is this a 32 0r 64-bit OS?  Cisco VPN Client will
not work on 64-bit.


-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

ArghI'm pulling my hair out on this one!

New R500 laptop with Cisco VPN client on Windows XP.  I can make the
tunnel connections all day long but can't hit any resources inside the
network.  I've noticed that when the VPN is active my gateway IP is the
same as the VPN-assigned machine IP so I guess that makes sense.

But this happens regardless of which VPN endpoint I hit, which creds I
use, wired or wireless NIC, etc.   And on this machine only.  And when
comparing the client settings with another they appear identical.

I've removed and reinstalled the OS, the Cisco client, reverted to a
previous version, logged in locally, etc, etc, - no go.

Any suggestions?


Roger Wright
___




 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I hate to admit it, but that  makes sense.. I did have to read it twice
tho.

 

-sc

 

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit

 

LOL !  I heard what you didn't say ...

 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

 

 



From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit

You can use anything you want as long as you want Intel or Broadcom. J 

 

Shook

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit

 

Looking to add NICs to a Windows 2008R2 server (installed 64 bit) and
find that my old supply of 3Com 3c905B-TX aren't recognized, and no
64-bit drivers are on the 3Com site ...

 

s..

 

Any recommendations for 100 or 1000 ethernet adapters that have 64 bit
drivers and/or are recognized by Win2008 ?

 

Thanks

 

( this is for a lab system, not a mission critical production box )

 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: change operatins master

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Did you ADPREP when you installed 2K8?

 

-sc

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: change operatins master

 

Actually the old DC is Win 2000 not 2003.

- Original Message - 

From: James Kerr mailto:cluster...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:57 PM

Subject: change operatins master

 

Heh all, I have an old 2003 DC and a new 2008 DC. Im trying to
remove the 2003 DC and when I got into change the operations master the
only DC listed in both sections is the 2003 DC. So how do I make the
2008 DC the operations master, or is this something that isnt even part
of 2008?

 

James

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: change operatins master

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
It's not a big deal really.

 

There's a MS Pro who blogged about this somewhere, but it won't kill you
for a small site.

 

-sc

 

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: change operatins master

 

Thanks, going from ADUC on the 2003 DC did the trick. Now I'm reminded
of something. Getting a popup stating that infrastructure master role
should not be transferred to a GC server. Argh, its going to be the only
server at that site. Do I have really need to have two DCs at a small
site? What may happen if I hit yes to transfer the role?

- Original Message - 

From: Erik Goldoff mailto:egold...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:16 PM

Subject: RE: change operatins master

 

but no other servers in the list ???

 

Does the new server show up in Domain Controllers' container in
ADUC ?

 

ok, in ADUC, right click on the domain.local and you should have
an option to connect to another server, pick the one you want to house
the role 

then click on Operations master and click the CHANGE button

 

OR, if you did this from the 2008 server, the change should
already be set with the old server holding the role, and the new server
in the second position to Change to 

 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

 

 



From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: change operatins master

Yeah, trouble is that below that button the 2000 DC is listed
there as well.

- Original Message - 

From: Erik Goldoff mailto:egold...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:01 PM

Subject: RE: change operatins master

 

should be a button for the second listing, where you can
change from the current to the desired DC

 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

 

 



From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: change operatins master

Heh all, I have an old 2003 DC and a new 2008 DC. Im
trying to remove the 2003 DC and when I got into change the operations
master the only DC listed in both sections is the 2003 DC. So how do I
make the 2008 DC the operations master, or is this something that isnt
even part of 2008?

 

James

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: SPAM Solution

2009-09-04 Thread tony patton
I learnt the hard way, had 2 500Gb drive in raid 0 in my desktop.
Bought a 1Tb drive to put into the esxi box to act as a file store and 
backup, had 75% of the stuff copied onto it when 1 of the 500's died.
Some of the stuff that was lost was about 30Gb of the wife's photo's that 
she was working on, she still had the originals, but had lost the work she 
had done on them.

After that she bought a Mac and an external hard drive to backup to, but 
still getting her to backup is a nightmare and all she has to do is 
connect the external and the Mac does it automatically for her.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
To:
NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:
04/09/2009 14:08
Subject:
RE: SPAM Solution



No pictures? Tax/financial records? Home video?

A file server (even just using OS software RAID) is amazingly cheap to
acquire.

I've suffered multiple individual component failures in desktops and
servers at home, but have never lost a lick of important data...
including music.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
 
 local drives, with no backup at the moment.  I personally don't have a
 lot to lose on my computer, but my wife would kill me if she lost her
 music...  I've been thinking about Mozy, or something like that, but
 haven't gotten around to it.  My machines at home are home-built, and
 the newest is about 2-3 years old now.  About all we do on them,
 really, is listen to music, and play MMOs...
 
 If a computer crashed, I'd have to build from scratch.
 
  Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 10:15 AM 
 What do you do for file storage? Local C: drives and backups? If so,
to
 what?
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:16 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
 
  I have a computer room, with 3 desktops connecting through a router
 to
  my cable modem.  My daughter connects from her room, through
wireless
  to the same router.  That's as complicated as I get at home, unless
I
  fire up my Ubuntu box, which I'm using for learning purposes, but
 even
  then, I unplug the third computer to do that.
 
  Unfortunately, that room is the hottest room in the house to begin
  with, doesn't get the same flow through the AC duct as the rest of
 the
  house, so my cooling bill is pretty outrageous in the summer.
 
  That's not saying that I wouldn't like to do some other stuff, like
  poke around with virtualization, etc., but I don't have the budget
to
  go out and buy hardware for it, and don't really have space for it
  either.
 
   Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 8:00 AM 
  Meh... I had ESXi running at home before we decided to go in on the
  business.
 
  At a cost of free, and with the flexibility you get, I don't see
 why
  you would NOT do it on a home net, unless you had some specific
  hardware
  you needed that ESXi choked on.
 
  And the home net _IS_ for play/non-work use. Music streaming, photo
  library, home movie streaming, interweb access, IP phone service,
  online
  Netflix/dish network, Exchange server, hobby mailing list servers,
  etc...
 
  Doesn't just about everybody have a home net these days? I'd only
  expect
  the nerds like us here to actually run a domain and have an IIS
 server,
  but we're also the audience that would likely then benefit from
 having
  a
  virtual infrastructure too...
 
  Last time I needed to move a server to a newer hardware platform it
 was
  just a file copy 
 
  -sc
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
   Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:49 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
  
   Key words for you Steven, were business startup.  When I'm at
 home,
   work is the farthest from my mind, if at all possible.  I play at
  home,
   work at work...
  
Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 7:32 AM

   Really?
  
   I have four ESXi hosts, one pair handling my home network, and
  another
   pair handling the production, dev, and test VM's, along with VPN
 and
   SharePoint servers for a business startup I'm involved with.
  
   I'd bet lotsa' folks here have ESXi at home...
  
   -sc
  
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SPAM Solution
   
You, sir, have just gone to the top of the geek list, for having
  ESXi
and VMs installed at home...
   
 tony patton tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 9/3/2009 12:21
 AM
   
+1 for untangle, i have it running in a vm on esxi at 

RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Which reminds me: the default closed share perms on new shares in Win2K8 are 
annoying.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One
 SAN Disk to Another
 
 Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?
 
 I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
 (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
 to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
 file level.
 
 I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
 and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
 reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.
 
 2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
  What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from
 one
  SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy
 the
  NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a
 large
  amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to
 have
  to recreate all the shares.
 
  The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
  critical updates installed.
 
  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks, Terri
 
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 --
 On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
 into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
 not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
 could provoke such a question.
 
 http://raythestray.blogspot.com
 
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Re: change operatins master

2009-09-04 Thread Jon Harris
Now that is much clearer than the Microsoft documentation for 2000 and NOW I
truly understand what was being said.  Thank you.

Jon

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

  Client numbers are irrelevant. Infrastructure Master works by comparing
 what it has in its database with what a GC has in its. If you make the IM a
 GC, then when it compares its db with another GC there are no differences.
 And the IM then doesn’t do anything.



 If you only have a single domain, then GCs don’t store anything more than
 regular DCs. If all the DCs in the domain are also GCs, then there’s nothing
 for the IM to do anyway.



 But if you have 1 domain, and not all DCs are GCs, then you need the IM to
 do things. And that means the IM can not be on a GC.



 Cheers

 Ken



 *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, 4 September 2009 5:42 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: change operatins master



 That warning does not apply to a single (small) domain model if I remember
 correctly.  You would have issues if this were a multi-domain, large number
 of clients type of setting.



 Jon

 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok it seems I will be ok transferring this role to a single DC since this
 is a single forest single domain setup. Thanks for the help Erik.



 James

  - Original Message -

 *From:* James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:27 PM

 *Subject:* Re: change operatins master



 Thanks, going from ADUC on the 2003 DC did the trick. Now I'm reminded of
 something. Getting a popup stating that infrastructure master role should
 not be transferred to a GC server. Argh, its going to be the only server at
 that site. Do I have really need to have two DCs at a small site? What may
 happen if I hit yes to transfer the role?

  - Original Message -

 *From:* Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:16 PM

 *Subject:* RE: change operatins master



 but no other servers in the list ???



 Does the new server show up in Domain Controllers' container in ADUC ?



 ok, in ADUC, right click on the domain.local and you should have an option
 to connect to another server, pick the one you want to house the role 

 then click on Operations master and click the CHANGE button



 OR, if you did this from the 2008 server, the change should already be set
 with the old server holding the role, and the new server in the second
 position to Change to











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Removable media solution

2009-09-04 Thread James Rankin
Afternoon/morning all

We work in a predominantly thin-client environment. One of the major
gripes of our lovely user base is their inability to retrieve
information from CDs and USB sticks. The JackPC thin clients that most
of our users have are very hit and miss when it comes to detecting USB
keys, and obviously have no CD capability at all.

However, an environment like this also means we get hit with very few
(read none) instances of malware among our users. I'm currently trying
to find a solution that will allow our users to get info from media
such as CDs and USB keys without increasing our malware exposure. Does
anyone know of some sort of PC-based software that would allow us to,
say, insert a CD or USB key into a standalone PC, scan it thoroughly
for viruses and threats, and then (and only then) mount it as a shared
drive that users could connect to from their thin client? I haven't
given this much lateral thought so am looking for suggestions of all
kinds for dealing with this conundrum.

We do have application management rules that prevent users from
executing untrusted files so worrying about executables is mostly out
of the equation, thankfully. I am however also wondering whether a
single scan with a single flavour of AV would be enough to label
removable media as sanitised.

As always all suggestions and tips gratefully received.


-- 
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question.

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

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Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

2009-09-04 Thread Jon Harris
One other thing to consider is the NIC setting for DHCP or is there an
assigned address, and look at the DNS entries as well.

Jon

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

  Basic info:



 What’s the error?



 Name resolution?



 Ping IP/connectivity?



 Accessing via NetBIOS or DNS names?



 IPCONFIG /ALL output?



 -sc



 *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:49 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness



 32-bit XP Pro.  The VPN does connect - no problem there.



 Roger Wright
 ___

 Sent from Tampa, Florida, United States



 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Terry Dickson te...@treasurer.state.ks.us
 wrote:

 OK crazy question but is this a 32 0r 64-bit OS?  Cisco VPN Client will not
 work on 64-bit.


 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:40 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

 ArghI'm pulling my hair out on this one!

 New R500 laptop with Cisco VPN client on Windows XP.  I can make the tunnel
 connections all day long but can't hit any resources inside the network.
  I've noticed that when the VPN is active my gateway IP is the same as the
 VPN-assigned machine IP so I guess that makes sense.

 But this happens regardless of which VPN endpoint I hit, which creds I use,
 wired or wireless NIC, etc.   And on this machine only.  And when comparing
 the client settings with another they appear identical.

 I've removed and reinstalled the OS, the Cisco client, reverted to a
 previous version, logged in locally, etc, etc, - no go.

 Any suggestions?


 Roger Wright
 ___
















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

SOHO: Data storage, RAID levels, backups, VMs, etc. (was: SPAM Solution)

2009-09-04 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:20 AM, tony
pattontony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote:
 I rebuild my desktop at home roughly every six months just for the fun of
 it, it's a lot less hassle than removing all the crap I install to take a
 look at.

  Old answer: That is why they invented partition imaging.  Image your
system/software partition, do your tests, then restore after.  Keep
all your data on a separate partition, so don't have to blow that
away.

  New answer: That is why they invented virtual machines.  Do your
testing in a VM, and revert the VM's virtual disk after.

  :-)

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM, tony
pattontony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote:
 ... had 2 500Gb drive in raid 0 in my desktop ...

  Yikes!  RAID 0 means your chance of failure is multiplied by the
number of drives.  And given bit failure rates and the size of disks
these days, the chance of failure approaches 100% for a single drive.

  RAID 0 might have had limited application in speed critical
situations back when disks were wicked freaking expensive.  These
days, I'd never ever use it.  If I needed the speed and storage
capacity that badly, I'd do RAID 10 (striped array of mirrors).

 ... had 75% of the stuff copied onto it when 1 of the 500's died ...

  Chances are, it was already bad, you just didn't notice because you
hadn't read from that block in a while.

  Patrol reads are your friend.

 ... Mac and an external hard drive to backup to, but
 still getting her to backup is a nightmare and all she has to do is connect
 the external and the Mac does it automatically for her.

  A backup solution that requires end-user action is doomed to failure.

  I recommend scripting something on the laptop that will
automatically sync changes to a networked file server on a schedule,
or whenever the network is available, or whatever.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit

2009-09-04 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
+1

--
ME2



On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Steven M. Caesarescaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 Thou shalt buy Intel NICS.



 -sc



 From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:40 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit



 Looking to add NICs to a Windows 2008R2 server (installed 64 bit) and find
 that my old supply of 3Com 3c905B-TX aren't recognized, and no 64-bit
 drivers are on the 3Com site ...



 s..



 Any recommendations for 100 or 1000 ethernet adapters that have 64 bit
 drivers and/or are recognized by Win2008 ?



 Thanks



 ( this is for a lab system, not a mission critical production box )



 Erik Goldoff

 IT  Consultant

 Systems, Networks,  Security











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

2009-09-04 Thread Jon Harris
Sorry I am thinking on the client not the other side.

Jon

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:

  One other thing to consider is the NIC setting for DHCP or is there an
 assigned address, and look at the DNS entries as well.

 Jon

  On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
 scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

  Basic info:



 What’s the error?



 Name resolution?



 Ping IP/connectivity?



 Accessing via NetBIOS or DNS names?



 IPCONFIG /ALL output?



 -sc



 *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:49 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness



 32-bit XP Pro.  The VPN does connect - no problem there.



 Roger Wright
 ___

 Sent from Tampa, Florida, United States



 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Terry Dickson 
 te...@treasurer.state.ks.us wrote:

 OK crazy question but is this a 32 0r 64-bit OS?  Cisco VPN Client will
 not work on 64-bit.


 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:40 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

 ArghI'm pulling my hair out on this one!

 New R500 laptop with Cisco VPN client on Windows XP.  I can make the
 tunnel connections all day long but can't hit any resources inside the
 network.  I've noticed that when the VPN is active my gateway IP is the same
 as the VPN-assigned machine IP so I guess that makes sense.

 But this happens regardless of which VPN endpoint I hit, which creds I
 use, wired or wireless NIC, etc.   And on this machine only.  And when
 comparing the client settings with another they appear identical.

 I've removed and reinstalled the OS, the Cisco client, reverted to a
 previous version, logged in locally, etc, etc, - no go.

 Any suggestions?


 Roger Wright
 ___





















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: SOHO: Data storage, RAID levels, backups, VMs, etc. (was: SPAM Solution)

2009-09-04 Thread tony patton
Hence the main reason for the ESXi box :-)
Snapshot, play to your hearts content, restore if needed.

I backup my own stuff now to both a VM and external disk, chances of both 
going at the same time unlikly, but now that i've mentioned it, I'll give 
it a week :-)

She's been well warned and I remind her of what happened when my PC went. 
The ESXi box only runs when I'm home so scripting to a network location 
won't work.

I'd never use raid0 again, I new the risks but wanted the capacity.
The disks are still under warranty, haven't gotten round to getting it 
replaced yet.
I run a check every month on the remaining one, but if it goes, I'm not 
too worried about anything on it.
At the minute I'm running a 64Gig SSD and the remaining 500Gb Samsung 
HD501J.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



From:
Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
To:
NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:
04/09/2009 14:46
Subject:
SOHO: Data storage, RAID levels, backups, VMs, etc. (was: SPAM Solution)



On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:20 AM, tony
pattontony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote:
 I rebuild my desktop at home roughly every six months just for the fun 
of
 it, it's a lot less hassle than removing all the crap I install to take 
a
 look at.

  Old answer: That is why they invented partition imaging.  Image your
system/software partition, do your tests, then restore after.  Keep
all your data on a separate partition, so don't have to blow that
away.

  New answer: That is why they invented virtual machines.  Do your
testing in a VM, and revert the VM's virtual disk after.

  :-)

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM, tony
pattontony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com wrote:
 ... had 2 500Gb drive in raid 0 in my desktop ...

  Yikes!  RAID 0 means your chance of failure is multiplied by the
number of drives.  And given bit failure rates and the size of disks
these days, the chance of failure approaches 100% for a single drive.

  RAID 0 might have had limited application in speed critical
situations back when disks were wicked freaking expensive.  These
days, I'd never ever use it.  If I needed the speed and storage
capacity that badly, I'd do RAID 10 (striped array of mirrors).

 ... had 75% of the stuff copied onto it when 1 of the 500's died ...

  Chances are, it was already bad, you just didn't notice because you
hadn't read from that block in a while.

  Patrol reads are your friend.

 ... Mac and an external hard drive to backup to, but
 still getting her to backup is a nightmare and all she has to do is 
connect
 the external and the Mac does it automatically for her.

  A backup solution that requires end-user action is doomed to failure.

  I recommend scripting something on the laptop that will
automatically sync changes to a networked file server on a schedule,
or whenever the network is available, or whatever.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


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Re: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Link
+1
You can buy an Intel NIC now, or you can buy one later.  Buying one now is
cheaper.



On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr 
michealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1

 --
 ME2



 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Steven M. Caesarescaes...@caesare.com
 wrote:
  Thou shalt buy Intel NICS.
 
 
 
  -sc
 
 
 
  From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:40 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Ethernet adapter recommendation for Win2008 64bit
 
 
 
  Looking to add NICs to a Windows 2008R2 server (installed 64 bit) and
 find
  that my old supply of 3Com 3c905B-TX aren't recognized, and no 64-bit
  drivers are on the 3Com site ...
 
 
 
  s..
 
 
 
  Any recommendations for 100 or 1000 ethernet adapters that have 64 bit
  drivers and/or are recognized by Win2008 ?
 
 
 
  Thanks
 
 
 
  ( this is for a lab system, not a mission critical production box )
 
 
 
  Erik Goldoff
 
  IT  Consultant
 
  Systems, Networks,  Security
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.

I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.

--
ME2

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RE: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

2009-09-04 Thread Gene Giannamore
Allowing a choice and forcing or requiring are 2 different things. I just do 
not believe any human being should be forced or required to listen to any 
politician. Encouraged yes, required no.




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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

Oh.
My.
God.
President speaks to children. At a school.  It's never, ever happened 
before.http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909030020

It's really sad that there is no debate in this country, just I don't accept 
your viewpoint, so I'm going to listen to other people who share the same views 
(even though they probably don't share all the same views).  If my daughter 
could participate I would encourage her to be involved no matter who is 
president, even if I disagreed with all of his policies.
Sheesh, are you afraid your kids will be brainwashed in one friggin speech?
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Gene Giannamore 
gene.giannam...@abideinternational.commailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com
 wrote:

WOT = way off topic or wide open throttle?



Anyway my bro-in-law wrote this :)







Dear Livermore school officials,



Here are two Internet links:

http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml



http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obamaÿÿ(tm)s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama's-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009



These links describe the President of the United States ÿÿ(tm) intent to 
address pre-K to sixth graders live via the Internet.



I am writing to ask for Livermore schools not to accept this broadcast live 
and/or have an opt-in form sent to parents (so that parents would have to agree 
to let their children view the speech).



I ask this for the reasons below:



 1.  No Constitutional Authority.  The Federal government has no authority to 
send curriculum to state schools and no authority to address minors without 
parental permission.
 2.  No politics in school.  There has been no national tragedy that the 
president is reacting to.  The President is trying to set a precedent whereby 
he may address our youth directly asserting his influence on educational 
policy.  This is political in nature and subject to differences of opinion 
to-which adults may debate but should be transparent to our youth (especially 
4-12 years old).  A live broadcast does not allow parents sufficient time to 
counter the influence of the leader of the free worldÿÿ(tm)s perspective on 
education.
 3.  No usurpation of parental rights.  Parents have the unequivocal right to 
guide their children in matters of politics, religion, morality, and etc.  The 
president may have rights and responsibilities to speak to the public, but will 
violate parental rights by speaking to minors directly without supplying a 
written transcript or preview of the broadcast.
 4.  No captive audience.  Without and Opt-in policy by the Livermore Valley 
Joint Unified School District , our children will be a captive audience to the 
influence of a politician.  I believe need not make mention of historical 
abuses of this power by other nations.



No matter how benign the Presidential address may seem, it reduces our liberty 
and our authority over our own children.  So if you do not force our students 
to watch either by not broadcasting or having parents Opt-in, then you show 
your dedication to parental rights and authority.



Thank you,

Livermore parents















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Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.

  Got a link to decent tech info with, e.g., infection vectors and
attack mechanisms?  All I find is removal instructions and the usual
mass confusion in online forums (the same kind that are full of people
asking if NTOSKRNL.EXE is a virus).

  I'm particularly interested in whether it's exploiting any special
security exposures, or if it's just your typical malware that depends
on luser stupidity and admin rights to get into the computer.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

2009-09-04 Thread Ben Scott
  Could you people all please STFU about this?

  Yes, the above is rude.  So is hijacking a forum that explicitly
serves another purpose, and using it as a captive audience for your
opinions.

  Ironic that you're all doing the exact same thing you don't want
another guy doing.

-- Ben

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Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent
on page 7 of my most recent Google search.  This one looks good, walks
through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I
haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:

   
http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm

However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP
infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can be
run), but its worth a try.  Even the Microsoft forum discussions on
this malware are useless.

But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent had the
opportunity to try it yet.  But I suspect I will very soon.

--
ME2



On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
 big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.

 I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.

 --
 ME2


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Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

2009-09-04 Thread TJ
If its what I've heard its going to be about Stay in school, get an
education, dont drop out then that is great.  I remember watching our
former Presidents in my classroom way back when..As long as the message
is about education, directed at the children to stay in school and not about
trying to convince them to tell their parents that the global warming thing
is killing polar bears (when its really a hoax) and that we all need
national healthcare (when we cant afford the current systems in place:
Medicare/Medicaid, etc) and they're either on the edge of bankruptcy or
massively corrupt  -- then fine.

It must be directed at the children regarding their education and education
alone.   Everything other than education would be considered propaganda, in
my opinion.

So lets see what happens.  Personally, I think its yet another HUGE
distraction as the issues that really face this nation are handled in back
rooms by people who no nothing about what its like out in the real world
where 95% of us actually live and work.  Again, my opnion.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Gene Giannamore 
gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com wrote:

  Allowing a choice and forcing or requiring are 2 different things. I just
 do not believe any human being should be forced or required to listen to any
 politician. Encouraged yes, required no.









 Gene Giannamore

 Abide International Inc.

 Technical Support

 561 1st Street West

 Sonoma,Ca.95476

 (707) 935-1577Office

 (707) 935-9387Fax

 (707) 766-4185Cell

 gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com

 www.abideinternational.com





 *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:55 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th



 Oh.

 My.

 God.

 President speaks to children. At a school.  It's never, ever happened
 before.http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909030020



 It's really sad that there is no debate in this country, just I don't
 accept your viewpoint, so I'm going to listen to other people who share the
 same views (even though they probably don't share all the same views).  If
 my daughter could participate I would encourage her to be involved no matter
 who is president, even if I disagreed with all of his policies.

 Sheesh, are you afraid your kids will be brainwashed in one friggin speech?

 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Gene Giannamore 
 gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com wrote:

 WOT = way off topic or wide open throttle?



 Anyway my bro-in-law wrote this J







Dear Livermore school officials,



 Here are two Internet links:

 http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml

 


 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obamaÿÿ™s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama's-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009



 These links describe the President of the United States ÿÿ™ intent to
 address pre-K to sixth graders live via the Internet.



 I am writing to ask for Livermore schools not to accept this broadcast live
 and/or have an opt-in form sent to parents (so that parents would have to
 agree to let their children view the speech).



 I ask this for the reasons below:



1. No Constitutional Authority.  The Federal government has no
authority to send curriculum to state schools and no authority to address
minors without parental permission.
2. No politics in school.  There has been no national tragedy that the
president is reacting to.  The President is trying to set a precedent
whereby he may address our youth directly asserting his influence on
educational policy.  This is political in nature and subject to differences
of opinion to-which adults may debate but should be transparent to our 
 youth
(especially 4-12 years old).  A live broadcast does not allow parents
sufficient time to counter the influence of the leader of the free 
 worldÿÿ™s
perspective on education.
3. No usurpation of parental rights.  Parents have the unequivocal
right to guide their children in matters of politics, religion, morality,
and etc.  The president may have rights and responsibilities to speak to 
 the
public, but will violate parental rights by speaking to minors directly
without supplying a written transcript or preview of the broadcast.
4. No captive audience.  Without and Opt-in policy by the Livermore
Valley Joint Unified School District , our children will be a 
 *captive*audience to the influence of a politician.  I believe need not make 
 mention
of historical abuses of this power by other nations.



 No matter how benign the Presidential address may seem, it reduces our
 liberty and our authority over our own children.  So if you do not force our
 students to watch either by not broadcasting or having parents Opt-in, then
 you show your dedication to parental rights and authority.



 Thank 

Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread RichardMcClary
Well, this would not have worked with the rooted machine I came across a 
couple of weeks ago.  Any of the various ways to access TaskManager were 
denied.  Hitting the power button, then tapping F-8 to try to get into 
SafeMode would not work - numerous attempts ended up with regular mode 
XP running.

The infected profile, a local admin on XP Home, did let me create a new 
administrator user.  That new user was able to install MalwareBytes from a 
CD - no way to download anything with that root kit running! - and run it. 
 Then this new user could finish running the assorted clean-up tools.
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
 
ASPCA®
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802
 
richardmccl...@aspca.org
 
P: 217-337-9761
C: 217-417-1182
F: 217-337-9761
www.aspca.org
 
The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is 
from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA
®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may 
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the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any 
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e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have 
received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email 
and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any 
printout thereof.
 

Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2009 
10:37:45 AM:

 Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent
 on page 7 of my most recent Google search.  This one looks good, walks
 through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I
 haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:
 
http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-
 windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm
 
 However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP
 infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can be
 run), but its worth a try.  Even the Microsoft forum discussions on
 this malware are useless.
 
 But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent had the
 opportunity to try it yet.  But I suspect I will very soon.
 
 --
 ME2
 
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
  big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.
 
  I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.
 
  --
  ME2
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Link
Just reading this makes me cringe.  Why not wipe and rebuild?  Data's
relatively easy to extract from an infected machine with an extrenal HD and
booting with the UBCD4Windows.
I could never trust a machine that's been owned so thoroughly.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:47 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:


 Well, this would not have worked with the rooted machine I came across a
 couple of weeks ago.  Any of the various ways to access TaskManager were
 denied.  Hitting the power button, then tapping F-8 to try to get into
 SafeMode would not work - numerous attempts ended up with regular mode XP
 running.

 The infected profile, a local admin on XP Home, did let me create a new
 administrator user.  That new user was able to install MalwareBytes from a
 CD - no way to download anything with that root kit running! - and run it.
  Then this new user could finish running the assorted clean-up tools.
 --
 Richard D. McClary
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group

 *ASPCA®*
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
 Urbana, IL  61802

 richardmccl...@aspca.org

 P: 217-337-9761
 C: 217-417-1182
 F: 217-337-9761
 *www.aspca.org* http://www.aspca.org/


 The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is
 from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA
 ®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may
 contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not
 the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any
 dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail,
 and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
 this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and
 permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout
 thereof.


 Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2009
 10:37:45 AM:


  Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent
  on page 7 of my most recent Google search.  This one looks good, walks
  through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I
  haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:
 
 http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-
  windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm
 
  However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP
  infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can be
  run), but its worth a try.  Even the Microsoft forum discussions on
  this malware are useless.
 
  But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent had the
  opportunity to try it yet.  But I suspect I will very soon.
 
  --
  ME2
 
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
  Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
   If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
   big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.
  
   I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.
  
   --
   ME2
  
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

2009-09-04 Thread Mayo, Bill
ARGH!!!  Let me quote Ben:
 
Could you people all please STFU about this?

Yes, the above is rude. So is hijacking a forum that explicitly serves another 
purpose, and using it as a captive audience for your opinions.

Ironic that you're all doing the exact same thing you don't want another guy 
doing.

I did not sign up for an ultra-conservative propaganda list.  Stu, will you 
PLEASE shut this down?  If folks continue to rehash it, I say give them the 
boot.




From: TJ [mailto:iwebfor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th


If its what I've heard its going to be about Stay in school, get an education, 
dont drop out then that is great.  I remember watching our former Presidents 
in my classroom way back when..As long as the message is about education, 
directed at the children to stay in school and not about trying to convince 
them to tell their parents that the global warming thing is killing polar bears 
(when its really a hoax) and that we all need national healthcare (when we cant 
afford the current systems in place: Medicare/Medicaid, etc) and they're either 
on the edge of bankruptcy or massively corrupt  -- then fine.  
 
It must be directed at the children regarding their education and education 
alone.   Everything other than education would be considered propaganda, in my 
opinion.
 
So lets see what happens.  Personally, I think its yet another HUGE distraction 
as the issues that really face this nation are handled in back rooms by people 
who no nothing about what its like out in the real world where 95% of us 
actually live and work.  Again, my opnion.


On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Gene Giannamore 
gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com wrote:


Allowing a choice and forcing or requiring are 2 different things. I 
just do not believe any human being should be forced or required to listen to 
any politician. Encouraged yes, required no.

 

 

 

 

Gene Giannamore

Abide International Inc.

Technical Support

561 1st Street West

Sonoma,Ca.95476

(707) 935-1577Office

(707) 935-9387Fax

(707) 766-4185Cell

gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com 
mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com 

www.abideinternational.com http://www.abideinternational.com/ 

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

 

Oh.

My.

God.

President speaks to children. At a school.  It's never, ever happened 
before.http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909030020

 

It's really sad that there is no debate in this country, just I don't 
accept your viewpoint, so I'm going to listen to other people who share the 
same views (even though they probably don't share all the same views).  If my 
daughter could participate I would encourage her to be involved no matter who 
is president, even if I disagreed with all of his policies.

Sheesh, are you afraid your kids will be brainwashed in one friggin 
speech?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Gene Giannamore 
gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com wrote:

WOT = way off topic or wide open throttle?

 

Anyway my bro-in-law wrote this J

 

 

 

Dear Livermore school officials, 

Here are two Internet links: 

http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml  

 

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obamaÿÿ(tm)s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009
 
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama's-Address-to-Students-Across-America-September-8-2009
  

These links describe the President of the United States ÿÿ(tm) intent to 
address pre-K to sixth graders live via the Internet. 

I am writing to ask for Livermore schools not to accept this broadcast live 
and/or have an opt-in form sent to parents (so that parents would have to agree 
to let their children view the speech).  

I ask this for the reasons below: 

1.  No Constitutional Authority.  The Federal government has no authority 
to send curriculum to state schools and no authority to address minors without 
parental permission. 
2.  No politics in school.  There has been no national tragedy that the 
president is reacting to.  The President is trying to set a precedent whereby 
he may address our youth directly asserting his influence on educational 
policy.  This is political in nature and subject to differences of opinion 
to-which adults may debate but should be transparent to our youth (especially 
4-12 years old).  A live broadcast does not allow parents sufficient time to 
counter the influence 

Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Jon Harris
If it was rooted why repair?  Sorry I just don't understand but then I so
far have been able to get all of my garage clients but one to allow me to
fdisk the system and rebuild.  The one that would not I walked away from.  I
just was not going to give him false hopes that it was not hiding other
things.

Jon

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:47 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:


 Well, this would not have worked with the rooted machine I came across a
 couple of weeks ago.  Any of the various ways to access TaskManager were
 denied.  Hitting the power button, then tapping F-8 to try to get into
 SafeMode would not work - numerous attempts ended up with regular mode XP
 running.

 The infected profile, a local admin on XP Home, did let me create a new
 administrator user.  That new user was able to install MalwareBytes from a
 CD - no way to download anything with that root kit running! - and run it.
  Then this new user could finish running the assorted clean-up tools.
 --
 Richard D. McClary
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group

 *ASPCA®*
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
 Urbana, IL  61802

 richardmccl...@aspca.org

 P: 217-337-9761
 C: 217-417-1182
 F: 217-337-9761
 *www.aspca.org* http://www.aspca.org/


 The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is
 from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA
 ®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may
 contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not
 the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any
 dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail,
 and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received
 this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and
 permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout
 thereof.


 Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2009
 10:37:45 AM:


  Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent
  on page 7 of my most recent Google search.  This one looks good, walks
  through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I
  haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:
 
 http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-
  windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm
 
  However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP
  infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can be
  run), but its worth a try.  Even the Microsoft forum discussions on
  this malware are useless.
 
  But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent had the
  opportunity to try it yet.  But I suspect I will very soon.
 
  --
  ME2
 
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
  Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
   If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
   big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.
  
   I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.
  
   --
   ME2
  
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

[LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] RE: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

2009-09-04 Thread Stu Sjouwerman
Hi All,
 
Let's put politics to rest on this list please?
 
Remember to STAY ON TOPIC, LOW NOISE, and FRIENDLY! 
 
Thanks !
 

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  

 



From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 6:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [WOT] FW: Presidential Address Sept. 8th



WOT = way off topic or wide open throttle?

 

Anyway my bro-in-law wrote this J

 

 

 

Dear Livermore school officials, 

  

Here are two Internet links: 

http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml http://www.ed.gov/index.jhtml  

 

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obamas-Address-to-Student
s-Across-America-September-8-2009
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama's-Address-to-Stude
nts-Across-America-September-8-2009  

  

These links describe the President of the United States intent to
address pre-K to sixth graders live via the Internet. 

  

I am writing to ask for Livermore schools not to accept this broadcast
live and/or have an opt-in form sent to parents (so that parents would
have to agree to let their children view the speech).  

  

I ask this for the reasons below: 

  

1.  No Constitutional Authority.  The Federal government has no
authority to send curriculum to state schools and no authority to
address minors without parental permission. 
2.  No politics in school.  There has been no national tragedy that
the president is reacting to.  The President is trying to set a
precedent whereby he may address our youth directly asserting his
influence on educational policy.  This is political in nature and
subject to differences of opinion to-which adults may debate but should
be transparent to our youth (especially 4-12 years old).  A live
broadcast does not allow parents sufficient time to counter the
influence of the leader of the free worlds perspective on education. 
3.  No usurpation of parental rights.  Parents have the unequivocal
right to guide their children in matters of politics, religion,
morality, and etc.  The president may have rights and responsibilities
to speak to the public, but will violate parental rights by speaking to
minors directly without supplying a written transcript or preview of the
broadcast.  
4.  No captive audience.  Without and Opt-in policy by the Livermore
Valley Joint Unified School District , our children will be a captive
audience to the influence of a politician.  I believe need not make
mention of historical abuses of this power by other nations. 

  

No matter how benign the Presidential address may seem, it reduces our
liberty and our authority over our own children.  So if you do not force
our students to watch either by not broadcasting or having parents
Opt-in, then you show your dedication to parental rights and authority. 

  

Thank you, 

Livermore parents   

 

 

 




..
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Peter van Houten

The first mistake with any infection is to try and boot from the HDD
(safe mode or not) and perform repairs. Any malware worth its miserable
salt will see that eventuality. Boot from a CD/DVD with some reputable
tools thereon. My preference being ERD Commander with several malware
scanners, Autoruns and Registry Workshop.

--
Peter van Houten

On the 04/09/2009 17:47, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote the following:


Well, this would not have worked with the rooted machine I came across a
couple of weeks ago. Any of the various ways to access TaskManager were
denied. Hitting the power button, then tapping F-8 to try to get into
SafeMode would not work - numerous attempts ended up with regular mode
XP running.

The infected profile, a local admin on XP Home, did let me create a new
administrator user. That new user was able to install MalwareBytes from
a CD - no way to download anything with that root kit running! - and run
it. Then this new user could finish running the assorted clean-up tools.
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group

*ASPCA^® *
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL 61802

richardmccl...@aspca.org

P: 217-337-9761
C: 217-417-1182
F: 217-337-9761
_www.aspca.org_ http://www.aspca.org/

The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is
from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals^®
(ASPCA^® ) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein
and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If
you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby
notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the
contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly
prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please
immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original
and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof.


Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2009
10:37:45 AM:

  Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent
  on page 7 of my most recent Google search. This one looks good, walks
  through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I
  haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:
 
  http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-
  windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm
 
  However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP
  infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can be
  run), but its worth a try. Even the Microsoft forum discussions on
  this malware are useless.
 
  But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent had the
  opportunity to try it yet. But I suspect I will very soon.
 
  --
  ME2
 
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
  Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
   If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it. Its the next
   big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.
  
   I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.
  
   --
   ME2


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread RichardMcClary
If it were mine, I would have...

It was a white box built by her son a hundred miles or so out of town. 
Once I got it apparently functional, I told her to have him deal with it.

PS - related to another thread, STFU is not an invocation of our beloved 
Stu containing a typo.  It is a plea to cease-and-desist for that thread! 
I rely too much on the real, on-topic posts of the person offended; please 
don't chase him away...  Thanks!
--
RMc

Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2009 10:51:26 AM:

 Just reading this makes me cringe.  Why not wipe and rebuild?  
 Data's relatively easy to extract from an infected machine with an 
 extrenal HD and booting with the UBCD4Windows.
 I could never trust a machine that's been owned so thoroughly. 

 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:47 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 
 Well, this would not have worked with the rooted machine I came 
 across a couple of weeks ago.  Any of the various ways to access 
 TaskManager were denied.  Hitting the power button, then tapping F-8
 to try to get into SafeMode would not work - numerous attempts ended
 up with regular mode XP running. 
 
 The infected profile, a local admin on XP Home, did let me create a 
 new administrator user.  That new user was able to install 
 MalwareBytes from a CD - no way to download anything with that root 
 kit running! - and run it.  Then this new user could finish running 
 the assorted clean-up tools.
 -- 
 Richard D. McClary 
 Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
   
 ASPCA® 
 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
 Urbana, IL  61802 
   
 richardmccl...@aspca.org 
   
 P: 217-337-9761 
 C: 217-417-1182 
 F: 217-337-9761 
 www.aspca.org 
   
 The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments 
 hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to 
Animals®
 (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named 
 herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential 
 information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, 
 you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, 
 copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments 
 hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in 
 error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently 
 delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout 
thereof. 
   
 
 Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2009 
 10:37:45 AM: 
 
 
  Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent
  on page 7 of my most recent Google search.  This one looks good, walks
  through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I
  haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:
  
 http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-
  windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm
  
  However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP
  infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can be
  run), but its worth a try.  Even the Microsoft forum discussions on
  this malware are useless.
  
  But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent had the
  opportunity to try it yet.  But I suspect I will very soon.
  
  --
  ME2
  
  
  
  On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
  Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
   If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
   big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.
  
   I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.
  
   --
   ME2
  
  
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RE: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Tim Evans
Sans has a decent write up of what it does: 
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7066


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows Police Pro

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.

  Got a link to decent tech info with, e.g., infection vectors and
attack mechanisms?  All I find is removal instructions and the usual
mass confusion in online forums (the same kind that are full of people
asking if NTOSKRNL.EXE is a virus).

  I'm particularly interested in whether it's exploiting any special
security exposures, or if it's just your typical malware that depends
on luser stupidity and admin rights to get into the computer.

-- Ben

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Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Jon Harris
One question that I am pretty sure of the answer of is did the users have
Admin or Power User status?  One person asked in the ISC comments that
question and I think someone on this list just asked the same or similar
question.  I am seen something similar but when the popup appears a User can
go to Task Manager and kill the process and it does not appear to get
infected.  At least in Vista.  All the users I have seen get infected by
various thing all were running as Administrator, on XP they don't even get a
popup telling them something is installing.  So far my Vista clients have
just closed out or restarted the machine and missed the bullet.

Jon

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Tim Evans tev...@sparling.com wrote:

 Sans has a decent write up of what it does:
 http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7066


 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:33 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Windows Police Pro

 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.

  Got a link to decent tech info with, e.g., infection vectors and
 attack mechanisms?  All I find is removal instructions and the usual
 mass confusion in online forums (the same kind that are full of people
 asking if NTOSKRNL.EXE is a virus).

  I'm particularly interested in whether it's exploiting any special
 security exposures, or if it's just your typical malware that depends
 on luser stupidity and admin rights to get into the computer.

 -- Ben

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



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Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Russ
I'm curious of some behavior we have been seeing that seems to be out of the
ordinary.

Normally when you remote desktop to a machine, the remote machine locks and
someone on the other side can't see what you are doing.  Just recently I've
gotten a couple reports of remote desktop sessions leaving the remote end
open so that it can be seen.  I didn't think this was even possible.  Is
there a setting that can be set to allow this, or anyone else know what
might be going on?

These are XP machines with SP3 installed generally.  I know it doesn't seem
to happen every time, but I have multiple reports of it happening.

Please reply if you've seen anything like this or have any insight!  Thanks!

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RE: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread paul chinnery

I had one pc infected with it.  I could clean most of it but could never get 
back Task Mgr. Since she had a spare machine to use, I took it back to my 
office to work on it.  I tried a lot of different tricks I've learned through 
the years but never got that functionality back.
I finally reformated and gave it back to her yesterday.


To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Windows Police Pro
From: richardmccl...@aspca.org
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:47:42 -0500



Well, this would not have worked with
the rooted machine I came across a couple of weeks ago.  Any of the
various ways to access TaskManager were denied.  Hitting the power
button, then tapping F-8 to try to get into SafeMode would not work - numerous
attempts ended up with regular mode XP running.



The infected profile, a local admin
on XP Home, did let me create a new administrator user.  That new
user was able to install MalwareBytes from a CD - no way to download anything
with that root kit running! - and run it.  Then this new user could
finish running the assorted clean-up tools.

--

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Systems Administrator,
Information Technology Group

 

ASPCA®

1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste
36

Urbana, IL  61802

 

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Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com
wrote on 09/04/2009 10:37:45 AM:



 Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent

 on page 7 of my most recent Google search.  This one looks good,
walks

 through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I

 haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:

 

http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-

 windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm

 

 However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP

 infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can
be

 run), but its worth a try.  Even the Microsoft forum discussions
on

 this malware are useless.

 

 But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent
had the

 opportunity to try it yet.  But I suspect I will very soon.

 

 --

 ME2

 

 

 

 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola

 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:

  If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its
the next

  big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.

 

  I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.

 

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 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~

 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/
 ~

 



 



 


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RE: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Thomas Gonzalez
That's strange...usually the only item you see from the TS Manager is a
disconnect session not the end user seeing you

 

From: Russ [mailto:shouldab...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote desktop changed?

 

I'm curious of some behavior we have been seeing that seems to be out of
the ordinary.

Normally when you remote desktop to a machine, the remote machine locks
and someone on the other side can't see what you are doing.  Just
recently I've gotten a couple reports of remote desktop sessions leaving
the remote end open so that it can be seen.  I didn't think this was
even possible.  Is there a setting that can be set to allow this, or
anyone else know what might be going on?

These are XP machines with SP3 installed generally.  I know it doesn't
seem to happen every time, but I have multiple reports of it happening.

Please reply if you've seen anything like this or have any insight!
Thanks!

 

 



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Re: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Russshouldab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just recently I've
 gotten a couple reports of remote desktop sessions leaving the remote end
 open so that it can be seen.  I didn't think this was even possible.

  Remote Assistance works that way, and RA is basically just Remote
Desktop with some helper infrastructure.

  And there's third-party remote control tools, like VNC, WebEx, GoTo*, etc.

  Depending on how you're getting these reports, maybe the person
doing the reporting is not recognizing the difference.

  The remote admin mode or whatever it is for Win 2003 Server and
later also works this way, even for the regular RDP client.  That
shouldn't apply to Win XP, of course, but maybe somebody found a way
to make it happen?

-- Ben

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RE: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Charlie Kaiser
I had one like that yesterday. I was RDP'd to an XP machine and the user on
the console was able to watch what I was doing. Have not looked into why,
but it sure was convenient... :-)
Remote machine is XPSP3...

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***  

 -Original Message-
 From: Russ [mailto:shouldab...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:24 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Remote desktop changed?
 
 I'm curious of some behavior we have been seeing that seems 
 to be out of the ordinary.
 
 Normally when you remote desktop to a machine, the remote 
 machine locks and someone on the other side can't see what 
 you are doing.  Just recently I've gotten a couple reports of 
 remote desktop sessions leaving the remote end open so that 
 it can be seen.  I didn't think this was even possible.  Is 
 there a setting that can be set to allow this, or anyone else 
 know what might be going on?
 
 These are XP machines with SP3 installed generally.  I know 
 it doesn't seem to happen every time, but I have multiple 
 reports of it happening.
 
 Please reply if you've seen anything like this or have any 
 insight!  Thanks!
 
 
  
 
  
 
 


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RE: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Joe Tinney
I've seen this behavior on machines with UltraVNC on them. I'm not sure
what order the connections have to occur but using VNC in conjunction
with RDP has resulted in the station being unlocked AFTER the RDP
session had been closed (and I assume it was unlocked during the
session). 

 

From: Russ [mailto:shouldab...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote desktop changed?

 

I'm curious of some behavior we have been seeing that seems to be out of
the ordinary.

Normally when you remote desktop to a machine, the remote machine locks
and someone on the other side can't see what you are doing.  Just
recently I've gotten a couple reports of remote desktop sessions leaving
the remote end open so that it can be seen.  I didn't think this was
even possible.  Is there a setting that can be set to allow this, or
anyone else know what might be going on?

These are XP machines with SP3 installed generally.  I know it doesn't
seem to happen every time, but I have multiple reports of it happening.

Please reply if you've seen anything like this or have any insight!
Thanks!

 

 

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: change operatins master

2009-09-04 Thread Free, Bob
The way I came to remember it is if it is the only domain in the forest
the IM is irrelevant  if all DCs are GCs, the IM is irrelevant.

 

The documentation is a lot better than it used to be-

 

Requirements for infrastructure master placement

The infrastructure master updates the names of security principals from
other domains that are added to groups in its own domain. For example,
if a user from one domain is a member of a group in a second domain and
the user's name is changed in the first domain, the second domain is not
notified that the user's name must be updated in the group's membership
list. Because domain controllers in one domain do not replicate security
principals to domain controllers in another domain, the second domain
never becomes aware of the change in the absence of the infrastructure
master.

The infrastructure master constantly monitors group memberships, looking
for security principals from other domains. If it finds one, it checks
with the security principal's domain to verify that the information is
updated. If the information is out of date, the infrastructure master
performs the update and then replicates the change to the other domain
controllers in its domain.

Two exceptions apply to this rule. First, if all domain controllers are
global catalog servers, the domain controller that hosts the
infrastructure master role is insignificant because global catalogs
replicate the updated information regardless of the domain to which they
belong. Second, if the forest has only one domain, the domain controller
that hosts the infrastructure master role is insignificant because
security principals from other domains do not exist.

 

 

 

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: change operatins master

 

Now that is much clearer than the Microsoft documentation for 2000 and
NOW I truly understand what was being said.  Thank you.

 

Jon

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
wrote:

Client numbers are irrelevant. Infrastructure Master works by comparing
what it has in its database with what a GC has in its. If you make the
IM a GC, then when it compares its db with another GC there are no
differences. And the IM then doesn't do anything.

 

If you only have a single domain, then GCs don't store anything more
than regular DCs. If all the DCs in the domain are also GCs, then
there's nothing for the IM to do anyway.

 

But if you have 1 domain, and not all DCs are GCs, then you need the IM
to do things. And that means the IM can not be on a GC.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 4 September 2009 5:42 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: change operatins master

 

That warning does not apply to a single (small) domain model if I
remember correctly.  You would have issues if this were a multi-domain,
large number of clients type of setting.

 

Jon

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote:

ok it seems I will be ok transferring this role to a single DC since
this is a single forest single domain setup. Thanks for the help Erik.

 

James

- Original Message - 

From: James Kerr mailto:cluster...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:27 PM

Subject: Re: change operatins master

 

Thanks, going from ADUC on the 2003 DC did the trick. Now I'm
reminded of something. Getting a popup stating that infrastructure
master role should not be transferred to a GC server. Argh, its going to
be the only server at that site. Do I have really need to have two DCs
at a small site? What may happen if I hit yes to transfer the role?

- Original Message - 

From: Erik Goldoff mailto:egold...@gmail.com  

To: NT System Admin Issues
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com  

Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:16 PM

Subject: RE: change operatins master

 

but no other servers in the list ???

 

Does the new server show up in Domain Controllers'
container in ADUC ?

 

ok, in ADUC, right click on the domain.local and you
should have an option to connect to another server, pick the one you
want to house the role 

then click on Operations master and click the CHANGE
button

 

OR, if you did this from the 2008 server, the change
should already be set with the old server holding the role, and the new
server in the second position to Change to 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread David Mazzaccaro
I thought that *was* the behavior if you logged onto the remote machine
with the same credentials of the currently logged on user???
 



From: Russ [mailto:shouldab...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote desktop changed?


I'm curious of some behavior we have been seeing that seems to be out of
the ordinary.

Normally when you remote desktop to a machine, the remote machine locks
and someone on the other side can't see what you are doing.  Just
recently I've gotten a couple reports of remote desktop sessions leaving
the remote end open so that it can be seen.  I didn't think this was
even possible.  Is there a setting that can be set to allow this, or
anyone else know what might be going on?

These are XP machines with SP3 installed generally.  I know it doesn't
seem to happen every time, but I have multiple reports of it happening.

Please reply if you've seen anything like this or have any insight!
Thanks!


 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Ziots, Edward
Thanks for the FYI, 

 

Been stuck in NPP Memory issues with an Oracle Cluster for the last 4
days

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505



From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Police Pro

 

I had one pc infected with it.  I could clean most of it but could never
get back Task Mgr. Since she had a spare machine to use, I took it back
to my office to work on it.  I tried a lot of different tricks I've
learned through the years but never got that functionality back.
I finally reformated and gave it back to her yesterday.





To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Windows Police Pro
From: richardmccl...@aspca.org
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:47:42 -0500


Well, this would not have worked with the rooted machine I came across a
couple of weeks ago.  Any of the various ways to access TaskManager were
denied.  Hitting the power button, then tapping F-8 to try to get into
SafeMode would not work - numerous attempts ended up with regular mode
XP running. 

The infected profile, a local admin on XP Home, did let me create a new
administrator user.  That new user was able to install MalwareBytes from
a CD - no way to download anything with that root kit running! - and run
it.  Then this new user could finish running the assorted clean-up
tools.
-- 
Richard D. McClary 
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
  
ASPCA(r) 
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 
Urbana, IL  61802 
  
richardmccl...@aspca.org 
  
P: 217-337-9761 
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Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2009
10:37:45 AM:

 Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent
 on page 7 of my most recent Google search.  This one looks good, walks
 through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I
 haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:
 
http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-
 windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm
 
 However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP
 infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can be
 run), but its worth a try.  Even the Microsoft forum discussions on
 this malware are useless.
 
 But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent had the
 opportunity to try it yet.  But I suspect I will very soon.
 
 --
 ME2
 
 
 
 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
  big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.
 
  I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.
 
  --
  ME2
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 

 

 

 



With Windows Live, you can organize, edit, and share your photos. Click
here. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery  

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I have too, I believe. Screen almost got some users to click on it.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Windows Police Pro
 
 If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
 big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.
 
 I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.
 
 --
 ME2
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:47 PM, David
Mazzaccarodavid.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com wrote:
 I thought that *was* the behavior if you logged onto the remote machine with
 the same credentials of the currently logged on user???

  Nope, it locks the local console.  Or at least, it always has for us.  :)

-- Ben

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Russ
This was a machine that did not have UltraVNC on the remote end, however the
admin machine probably did have it installed.  It's convenient, yes, but it
seems to be a major issue if you didn't know it was happening and the wrong
eyes were peeking in on what you were doing . . .

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Joe Tinney jtin...@lastar.com wrote:

 I’ve seen this behavior on machines with UltraVNC on them. I’m not sure
 what order the connections have to occur but using VNC in conjunction with
 RDP has resulted in the station being unlocked AFTER the RDP session had
 been closed (and I assume it was unlocked during the session).



 *From:* Russ [mailto:shouldab...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 12:24 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Remote desktop changed?



 I'm curious of some behavior we have been seeing that seems to be out of
 the ordinary.

 Normally when you remote desktop to a machine, the remote machine locks and
 someone on the other side can't see what you are doing.  Just recently I've
 gotten a couple reports of remote desktop sessions leaving the remote end
 open so that it can be seen.  I didn't think this was even possible.  Is
 there a setting that can be set to allow this, or anyone else know what
 might be going on?

 These are XP machines with SP3 installed generally.  I know it doesn't seem
 to happen every time, but I have multiple reports of it happening.

 Please reply if you've seen anything like this or have any insight!
 Thanks!











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Charlie Kaiser
Nope. I just tested it here, and RDP to a test machine locks the console,
and unlocking the console closes the RDP session. But that's not what
happened to the other machine yesterday...

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***  

 -Original Message-
 From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:48 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote desktop changed?
 
 I thought that *was* the behavior if you logged onto the 
 remote machine with the same credentials of the currently 
 logged on user???


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Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread James Kerr
Looks like its the same family as XP Antivirus 2008...antispyware 2009 etc 
etc on and on..



- Original Message - 
From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com

To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Windows Police Pro


I have too, I believe. Screen almost got some users to click on it.

-sc


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows Police Pro

If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.  Its the next
big thing that you will be re-imaging infected systems for.

I've seen it twice now, and its very messy.

--
ME2

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


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Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

2009-09-04 Thread Roger Wright
The most recent analysis shows that the issue only shows up when making a
VPN connection through a Linksys WRT54G2 router.  If I remove the router
from the path I'm able to map drives just fine.
I have an older WRT54G at home - no issues.  Belkin or DLink router - fine.

Gee... you'd think a Linksys by Cisco router would be fully compatible with
the Cisco VPN client but apparently not!


Roger Wright
___




On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like I got it working… partially.

 I renamed the machine just in case there was an issue with certificates or
 something.  No change in behavior.

 Manually removed all things Cisco from the drive and registry, rebooted and
 reinstalled the client, and rebooted again.

 If I connect to an available unsecured wireless network and then make the
 VPN connection, I can map internal resources (but not ping).

 If I connect to to an available WPA2 wireless network I can make the VPN
 connection but cannot connect to internal resources.

 In both cases the default gateway on the Cisco virtual adapter is blank.
 However, on my personal machine that gateway address is 10.0.0.1.

 On my home network (WPA2) I connected to the VPN and mapped drives no
 problem.

 Apparently there's an issue with the WPA2 network available from my office,
 but I can't imagine what it is since I can connect and map drives fine using
 other machines over that wireless network.

 Still a stumper...


 Roger Wright









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RE: isa 2006 domain sets

2009-09-04 Thread Malcolm Reitz
That is strange. I have several rules using Domain Name Sets running on my
ISA proxies. Are you seeing anything of interest in the event logs? Is the
ISA server using the same DNS servers as your clients?

 

Have you tried completely deleting the Domain Name Set and associated rule
and then recreating them? I've fixed some odd rule issues that way.

 

-Malcolm

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: isa 2006 domain sets

 

Yes that's it, in the same rule I have some ip sets and those work as
expected. Strange right?

 

From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: isa 2006 domain sets

 

There is no need for the FW client to do this. So you created a domain name
set, then you created a rule allowing traffic to that domain name set?
That's really all there is to do. Your domains were entered just as
*.microsoft.com (without the quotes), with no http://;, right?

 

-Malcolm

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: isa 2006 domain sets

 

Hey all, I have a locked down ISA 2006 box, it works pretty well, but we
need to allow some internet access to certain sites. I added a domain name
set for like *.microsoft.com  and *.symantec.com however that doesn't work.
I see in the logs that if I monitor it when I goto the site the monitor
agent is reporting the IP address(es) not the name. I went in and put a few
of the IP's in manually and that works.

 

Is there something Im missing for Domain Name sets to work? I looked at
Schinders isa 2004 article on it and don't think I saw anything relevant
unless I *need* to have the fw client to make this work which is not going
to happen. The server can resolve names correctly so its not that it cannot
resolve the DNS name it just doesn't.

 

 

TIA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Mike Gill
His article mentions .exe file associations are broken during his repair
attempt because of the malware's use of its own command interpreter. Here is
a .reg to re associate .exe and .lnk extensions/filetypes. Also remember you
can use tasklist and taskkill in a command window if the taskmanager is
unavailable. I just ran into this Trojan called vundo and it sounds a lot
like WPP. Thank God for SysInternal's tools.


Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.exe]
@=exefile
Content Type=application/x-msdownload

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.exe\PersistentHandler]
@={098f2470-bae0-11cd-b579-08002b30bfeb}

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile]
@=Application
EditFlags=hex:38,07,00,00
TileInfo=prop:FileDescription;Company;FileVersion
InfoTip=prop:FileDescription;Company;FileVersion;Create;Size

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\DefaultIcon]
@=%1

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open]
EditFlags=hex:00,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\open\command]
@=\%1\ %*

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shell\runas\command]
@=\%1\ %*

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\DropHandler]
@={86C86720-42A0-1069-A2E8-08002B30309D}

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\PEAnalyser]
@={09A63660-16F9-11d0-B1DF-004F56001CA7}

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\PifProps]
@={86F19A00-42A0-1069-A2E9-08002B30309D}

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\exefile\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\ShimLayer Property
Page]
@={513D916F-2A8E-4F51-AEAB-0CBC76FB1AF8}

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\regfile]
@=Registration Entries
EditFlags=dword:0010
BrowserFlags=dword:0008

-- 
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From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Police Pro

Sans has a decent write up of what it does:
http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7066


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RE: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Chris Orovet
I followed these steps to get rid of it on one of my employees personal
computers.

 

Copied these two files to a zip drive:

http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/reg/fixtm.reg 

 

http://live.sunbeltsoftware.com Download vipre rescue.

 

Run the fixtm.reg and merge the data to your registry

 

Open windows task manager go into the process tab and shut down Windows
Police Pro.exe and Svchast.exe

 

Run the vipre.exe from the jump drive(dvd or cd if you prefer) and let
it clean the system. I rebooted and had no issues after that. I
uninistalled Norton and put vipre consumer on there and he says
everything is working with no problems...

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

Regards,

 

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F: (727)812-0278

Email: supp...@atsi-inc.com

Web: http://www.atsi-inc.com

 

 

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Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Police Pro

 

Thanks for the FYI, 

 

Been stuck in NPP Memory issues with an Oracle Cluster for the last 4
days

 

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From: paul chinnery [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows Police Pro

 

I had one pc infected with it.  I could clean most of it but could never
get back Task Mgr. Since she had a spare machine to use, I took it back
to my office to work on it.  I tried a lot of different tricks I've
learned through the years but never got that functionality back.
I finally reformated and gave it back to her yesterday.



To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Windows Police Pro
From: richardmccl...@aspca.org
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:47:42 -0500


Well, this would not have worked with the rooted machine I came across a
couple of weeks ago.  Any of the various ways to access TaskManager were
denied.  Hitting the power button, then tapping F-8 to try to get into
SafeMode would not work - numerous attempts ended up with regular mode
XP running. 

The infected profile, a local admin on XP Home, did let me create a new
administrator user.  That new user was able to install MalwareBytes from
a CD - no way to download anything with that root kit running! - and run
it.  Then this new user could finish running the assorted clean-up
tools.
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Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote on 09/04/2009
10:37:45 AM:

 Of course, shortly after sending this I come across something decent
 on page 7 of my most recent Google search.  This one looks good, walks
 through a Malwarebytes-based cleaning, and covers things that I
 haven't seen in any other guides I have come across:
 
http://www.geekpolice.net/malware-removal-guides-f12/remove-
 windows-police-pro-removal-guide-t13546.htm
 
 However, I dont think it will work in all circumstances of a WPP
 infection (particularly if the registry is corrupted and .exe's can be
 run), but its worth a try.  Even the Microsoft forum discussions on
 this malware are useless.
 
 But of course, I say this one looks good, since I havent 

RE: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

2009-09-04 Thread Glen Johnson
Could it be that the router at home is using the same ip address as the
VPN at work?

I ran into strange problem when using 192.168.0.X at home and work.

Changed one to 192.168.100.x and no problems.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

 

The most recent analysis shows that the issue only shows up when making
a VPN connection through a Linksys WRT54G2 router.  If I remove the
router from the path I'm able to map drives just fine.

 

I have an older WRT54G at home - no issues.  Belkin or DLink router -
fine.

 

Gee... you'd think a Linksys by Cisco router would be fully compatible
with the Cisco VPN client but apparently not!



Roger Wright
___





On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

Looks like I got it working... partially.

I renamed the machine just in case there was an issue with certificates
or something.  No change in behavior.

Manually removed all things Cisco from the drive and registry, rebooted
and reinstalled the client, and rebooted again.

If I connect to an available unsecured wireless network and then make
the VPN connection, I can map internal resources (but not ping).

If I connect to to an available WPA2 wireless network I can make the VPN
connection but cannot connect to internal resources.

In both cases the default gateway on the Cisco virtual adapter is blank.
However, on my personal machine that gateway address is 10.0.0.1.

On my home network (WPA2) I connected to the VPN and mapped drives no
problem. 

Apparently there's an issue with the WPA2 network available from my
office, but I can't imagine what it is since I can connect and map
drives fine using other machines over that wireless network.

Still a stumper...

 

Roger Wright

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

2009-09-04 Thread Eldridge, Dave
+1 on that. I changed mine years ago after running into this.

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

 

Could it be that the router at home is using the same ip address as the
VPN at work?

I ran into strange problem when using 192.168.0.X at home and work.

Changed one to 192.168.100.x and no problems.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

 

The most recent analysis shows that the issue only shows up when making
a VPN connection through a Linksys WRT54G2 router.  If I remove the
router from the path I'm able to map drives just fine.

 

I have an older WRT54G at home - no issues.  Belkin or DLink router -
fine.

 

Gee... you'd think a Linksys by Cisco router would be fully compatible
with the Cisco VPN client but apparently not!



Roger Wright
___




On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

Looks like I got it working... partially.

I renamed the machine just in case there was an issue with certificates
or something.  No change in behavior.

Manually removed all things Cisco from the drive and registry, rebooted
and reinstalled the client, and rebooted again.

If I connect to an available unsecured wireless network and then make
the VPN connection, I can map internal resources (but not ping).

If I connect to to an available WPA2 wireless network I can make the VPN
connection but cannot connect to internal resources.

In both cases the default gateway on the Cisco virtual adapter is blank.
However, on my personal machine that gateway address is 10.0.0.1.

On my home network (WPA2) I connected to the VPN and mapped drives no
problem. 

Apparently there's an issue with the WPA2 network available from my
office, but I can't imagine what it is since I can connect and map
drives fine using other machines over that wireless network.

Still a stumper...

 

Roger Wright

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Re: Remote desktop changed?

2009-09-04 Thread Russ
yes, exactly - it should lock the workstation and disconnect the remote
session if logged into again.  I'd love to get an answer as to when or why
it doesn't always happen.  It would be a nice thing if it was configurable.
:)

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.orgwrote:

 Nope. I just tested it here, and RDP to a test machine locks the console,
 and unlocking the console closes the RDP session. But that's not what
 happened to the other machine yesterday...

 ***
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 charl...@golden-eagle.org
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  From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:48 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Remote desktop changed?
 
  I thought that *was* the behavior if you logged onto the
  remote machine with the same credentials of the currently
  logged on user???


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Blank screen saver

2009-09-04 Thread Craig Gauss
We are working on implementing VM View in our Association.  I am trying
to set the screen saver to the blank one using group policies.  Does
anyone know the executable nae for the blank screen saver?

 

Thanks


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Re: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread James Rankin
*Isn't* ntoskrnl.exe a virus? :-)

2009/9/4 Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Micheal Espinola
 Jrmichealespin...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you havent heard of it already, start Googling it.

  Got a link to decent tech info with, e.g., infection vectors and
 attack mechanisms?  All I find is removal instructions and the usual
 mass confusion in online forums (the same kind that are full of people
 asking if NTOSKRNL.EXE is a virus).

  I'm particularly interested in whether it's exploiting any special
 security exposures, or if it's just your typical malware that depends
 on luser stupidity and admin rights to get into the computer.

 -- Ben

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-- 
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question.

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

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Re: Blank screen saver

2009-09-04 Thread James Rankin
scrnsave.scr

2009/9/4 Craig Gauss gau...@rhahealthcare.org

  We are working on implementing VM View in our Association.  I am trying
 to set the screen saver to the blank one using group policies.  Does anyone
 know the executable nae for the blank screen saver?



 Thanks








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the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question.

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

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SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Mike Gill
This is a printer for my mom type question. She needs an MFP with FAX and
wireless capabilities. I've been looking online and narrowed my list to an
HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 or the Epson WorkForce 600. I'm wondering if anyone
here uses one of these at home, or set up a similar model for anyone. I just
need this thing to work and be easy to use. It will be used wirelessly, so I
need to make sure when she brings her laptop out to the office the printer
picks and works without fuss. If anyone can add their experience  I would
like to hear it, or if there is another unit they like a lot in the $200 to
$250 range. One thing that bugs me about the Epson is apparently you can't
even print black if one of the color carts is out of ink. I don't know if
the HP has this problem.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 


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RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Richard Stovall
The HP driver software these days is absolutely 100% hateful.  Awful,
awful stuff.  That said, my mother in law has one and it works pretty
much all the time.  If you do go with an HP, step through the
installation manually and install as little of the crud as possible.

 

Just my $.02


RS

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

 

This is a printer for my mom type question. She needs an MFP with FAX
and wireless capabilities. I've been looking online and narrowed my list
to an HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 or the Epson WorkForce 600. I'm wondering if
anyone here uses one of these at home, or set up a similar model for
anyone. I just need this thing to work and be easy to use. It will be
used wirelessly, so I need to make sure when she brings her laptop out
to the office the printer picks and works without fuss. If anyone can
add their experience  I would like to hear it, or if there is another
unit they like a lot in the $200 to $250 range. One thing that bugs me
about the Epson is apparently you can't even print black if one of the
color carts is out of ink. I don't know if the HP has this problem.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

 

 

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread asbzone
+5
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall richard.stov...@researchdata.com

Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:42:07 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions


The HP driver software these days is absolutely 100% hateful.  Awful,
awful stuff.  That said, my mother in law has one and it works pretty
much all the time.  If you do go with an HP, step through the
installation manually and install as little of the crud as possible.

 

Just my $.02


RS

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

 

This is a printer for my mom type question. She needs an MFP with FAX
and wireless capabilities. I've been looking online and narrowed my list
to an HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 or the Epson WorkForce 600. I'm wondering if
anyone here uses one of these at home, or set up a similar model for
anyone. I just need this thing to work and be easy to use. It will be
used wirelessly, so I need to make sure when she brings her laptop out
to the office the printer picks and works without fuss. If anyone can
add their experience  I would like to hear it, or if there is another
unit they like a lot in the $200 to $250 range. One thing that bugs me
about the Epson is apparently you can't even print black if one of the
color carts is out of ink. I don't know if the HP has this problem.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

 

 

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Sean Rector
Aside from the drivers being junk (as has been said), my wife and I have the 
predecessor to the HP Photosmart Premium Fax All-in-One found here: 
http://preview.tinyurl.com/lxfa7l.  Ours uses the 02 ink carts (same concept on 
this - 'cept the number is now 564) and I really prefer buying the individual 
ink colors that I use vs. buying a multi-color tub.

Sean Rector, MCSE

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

This is a printer for my mom type question. She needs an MFP with FAX and 
wireless capabilities. I've been looking online and narrowed my list to an HP 
OfficeJet Pro 8500 or the Epson WorkForce 600. I'm wondering if anyone here 
uses one of these at home, or set up a similar model for anyone. I just need 
this thing to work and be easy to use. It will be used wirelessly, so I need to 
make sure when she brings her laptop out to the office the printer picks and 
works without fuss. If anyone can add their experience  I would like to hear 
it, or if there is another unit they like a lot in the $200 to $250 range. One 
thing that bugs me about the Epson is apparently you can't even print black if 
one of the color carts is out of ink. I don't know if the HP has this problem.

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RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Mike Gill
I'm familiar with this. I tend to download the basic/network/minimal driver
from the HP website, extract it and browse to the .inf's on the first
attempt of installing the driver. Some printers won't allow this and you
MUST run the executable installer, which I hate.

 

This HP seems to offer FAX to SMB, which would indicate scan to SMB
possibly. I like the separate color ink carts as well which was a
requirement when looking. I'm really surprised I wasn't able to find any
Bluetooth enabled MFP's printers. What an underused technology.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

 

The HP driver software these days is absolutely 100% hateful.  Awful,
awful stuff.  That said, my mother in law has one and it works pretty much
all the time.  If you do go with an HP, step through the installation
manually and install as little of the crud as possible.

 

Just my $.02


RS

 

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Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness

2009-09-04 Thread Roger Wright
No, their using different IP schemes.  Replacing the Linky with a DLink did
the trick.  Tried a Netgear unit first - it wouln't pick up an IP address
when connected to the cable modem, but did just fine on the internal
network.

Roger Wright
___




On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote:

  Could it be that the router at home is using the same ip address as the
 VPN at work?

 I ran into strange problem when using 192.168.0.X at home and work.

 Changed one to 192.168.100.x and no problems.



 *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, September 04, 2009 1:59 PM

 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Cisco VPN Client Weirdness



 The most recent analysis shows that the issue only shows up when making a
 VPN connection through a Linksys WRT54G2 router.  If I remove the router
 from the path I'm able to map drives just fine.



 I have an older WRT54G at home - no issues.  Belkin or DLink router - fine.



 Gee... you'd think a Linksys by Cisco router would be fully compatible with
 the Cisco VPN client but apparently not!



 Roger Wright
 ___



  On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like I got it working… partially.

 I renamed the machine just in case there was an issue with certificates or
 something.  No change in behavior.

 Manually removed all things Cisco from the drive and registry, rebooted and
 reinstalled the client, and rebooted again.

 If I connect to an available unsecured wireless network and then make the
 VPN connection, I can map internal resources (but not ping).

 If I connect to to an available WPA2 wireless network I can make the VPN
 connection but cannot connect to internal resources.

 In both cases the default gateway on the Cisco virtual adapter is blank.
 However, on my personal machine that gateway address is 10.0.0.1.

 On my home network (WPA2) I connected to the VPN and mapped drives no
 problem.

 Apparently there's an issue with the WPA2 network available from my office,
 but I can't imagine what it is since I can connect and map drives fine using
 other machines over that wireless network.

 Still a stumper...



 Roger Wright





















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Re: Presidential Address Sept. 8th

2009-09-04 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 4 Sep 2009 at 11:52, Stu Sjouwerman  wrote:

 
 Hi All,
 
 Let's put politics to rest on this list please?

Amen, brother.  Religion, too, I hope ;-)

--
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GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




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rpc over https

2009-09-04 Thread Chris Orovet
Hey Guys and Gals,
 Can someone clarify this for me please. Im setting up rpc over https for some 
remote users that require access to mail and the contacts. Im finding 
conflicting information when setting up the ssl portion. Should the ssl cert be 
setup for my exchange internal fqdn or my external address? Also everything is 
pointing towards setting this up for my default website. Should this be setup 
for the exchange website and not the default?

I have 1 exchange server:

Windows 2003 ent sp2
Exchange 2003 ent sp2- This is my only DC as well(don't ask was made to set it 
up this way)
If anyone has a link they can shoot me that would clarify this id appreciate 
it. 


Regards,
 
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RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Erik Goldoff
Well, my dad ( 76 years old ) has the Epson WorkForce 500, and is using the
USB connection, so I cannot answer to the wireless.  But for an old man that
is not very computer literate, he works the Epson just fine.  Uses the
scanner to scan stamps for his stamp collecting club, and sells excess on
eBay.  Prints just fine, copies just fine, and he even receives and send
faxes without issue.  Not much of any problem at all to mention.
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

 

  _  

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SOHO MFP Printer Questions



This is a printer for my mom type question. She needs an MFP with FAX and
wireless capabilities. I've been looking online and narrowed my list to an
HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 or the Epson WorkForce 600. I'm wondering if anyone
here uses one of these at home, or set up a similar model for anyone. I just
need this thing to work and be easy to use. It will be used wirelessly, so I
need to make sure when she brings her laptop out to the office the printer
picks and works without fuss. If anyone can add their experience  I would
like to hear it, or if there is another unit they like a lot in the $200 to
$250 range. One thing that bugs me about the Epson is apparently you can't
even print black if one of the color carts is out of ink. I don't know if
the HP has this problem.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

 


 


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RE: rpc over https

2009-09-04 Thread Richard Stovall
The SSL cert must be for whatever address your users will use from the outside 
(the inside will work too if you set up a split DNS structure).  The site 
really depends on how you set it up.  Could be the default, or possibly 
something else if you customize it.  I set ours up 4 or 5 years ago and haven't 
touched it since, so I don't really remember how much choice you have.  A quick 
look at the IIS config on our Exchange server puts it in the default site.

One thing about the cert you need to understand.  The trusted chain in the 
certificate store on your user's machines must go all the way up to the issuing 
authority.  It doesn't have to be a commercial cert, but the issuing authority 
must be trusted.  You can even use a self-signed cert, but it must be installed 
manually.  The easiest way to do this is with IE.

Once you get this working I think you'll really appreciate the benefits, at 
least with Exchange 2003.  The folks here rave about 2010's OWA, so maybe it 
won't be needed in the future.

Good luck,
RS

-Original Message-
From: Chris Orovet [mailto:coro...@atsi-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: rpc over https
Importance: High

Hey Guys and Gals,
 Can someone clarify this for me please. Im setting up rpc over https for some 
remote users that require access to mail and the contacts. Im finding 
conflicting information when setting up the ssl portion. Should the ssl cert be 
setup for my exchange internal fqdn or my external address? Also everything is 
pointing towards setting this up for my default website. Should this be setup 
for the exchange website and not the default?

I have 1 exchange server:

Windows 2003 ent sp2
Exchange 2003 ent sp2- This is my only DC as well(don't ask was made to set it 
up this way)
If anyone has a link they can shoot me that would clarify this id appreciate 
it. 


Regards,
 
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F: (727)812-0278
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RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Mike Gill
Yes. One part of this picture is to simplify. She's got three machines
currently between the printing, copying and faxing. As for the laser option,
well it becomes quite an initial expense in comparison to purchase the
printer and a set of toners. I think the return would be a couple two to
three years out or more based on her print/copy volume.

-- 
Mike Gill


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 1:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Mike Gilllis...@canbyfoursquare.com wrote:
 She needs an MFP with FAX and wireless capabilities.

  Does she need color printing?


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Re: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Mike Gilllis...@canbyfoursquare.com wrote:
 As for the laser option, well it becomes quite an initial expense
 in comparison to purchase the printer ...

  The Brother I mentioned seemed to be about $50 more than a inkjet
with comparable features.

 ... and a set of toners.

  Have you priced ink cartridges lately?  And seen how often they have
to be replaced?

  Now compare that with the page volume of even the *starter* toner
cartridge that comes with most laser printers these days.

  You'd pay it off the first time you need to buy more ink.  Which
will be about one week after you buy the printer.

-- Ben

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RE: rpc over https

2009-09-04 Thread Chris Orovet
Thanks finally figured it out. I will probably see the latest version of 
exchange in production in about 5 years if im lucky...

Regards,
 
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-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: rpc over https

The SSL cert must be for whatever address your users will use from the outside 
(the inside will work too if you set up a split DNS structure).  The site 
really depends on how you set it up.  Could be the default, or possibly 
something else if you customize it.  I set ours up 4 or 5 years ago and haven't 
touched it since, so I don't really remember how much choice you have.  A quick 
look at the IIS config on our Exchange server puts it in the default site.

One thing about the cert you need to understand.  The trusted chain in the 
certificate store on your user's machines must go all the way up to the issuing 
authority.  It doesn't have to be a commercial cert, but the issuing authority 
must be trusted.  You can even use a self-signed cert, but it must be installed 
manually.  The easiest way to do this is with IE.

Once you get this working I think you'll really appreciate the benefits, at 
least with Exchange 2003.  The folks here rave about 2010's OWA, so maybe it 
won't be needed in the future.

Good luck,
RS

-Original Message-
From: Chris Orovet [mailto:coro...@atsi-inc.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: rpc over https
Importance: High

Hey Guys and Gals,
 Can someone clarify this for me please. Im setting up rpc over https for some 
remote users that require access to mail and the contacts. Im finding 
conflicting information when setting up the ssl portion. Should the ssl cert be 
setup for my exchange internal fqdn or my external address? Also everything is 
pointing towards setting this up for my default website. Should this be setup 
for the exchange website and not the default?

I have 1 exchange server:

Windows 2003 ent sp2
Exchange 2003 ent sp2- This is my only DC as well(don't ask was made to set it 
up this way)
If anyone has a link they can shoot me that would clarify this id appreciate 
it. 


Regards,
 
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O: (727)812-0276 Ext. 125
F: (727)812-0278
Email: supp...@atsi-inc.com
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RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
I just picked up a brother all in one with wireless and it was nice and easy
to setup on a small network. 

 

From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

 

This is a printer for my mom type question. She needs an MFP with FAX and
wireless capabilities. I've been looking online and narrowed my list to an
HP OfficeJet Pro 8500 or the Epson WorkForce 600. I'm wondering if anyone
here uses one of these at home, or set up a similar model for anyone. I just
need this thing to work and be easy to use. It will be used wirelessly, so I
need to make sure when she brings her laptop out to the office the printer
picks and works without fuss. If anyone can add their experience  I would
like to hear it, or if there is another unit they like a lot in the $200 to
$250 range. One thing that bugs me about the Epson is apparently you can't
even print black if one of the color carts is out of ink. I don't know if
the HP has this problem.

 

-- 
Mike Gill

 

 

 

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RE: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
The brother I picked up from Comp USA was 299 and the HP one comparable was
399 for b/w but the HP color was 499 with 150 off. The Brother scans nice
from multiple computers has a 35 page ADF and is fast and quiet.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 5:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Mike Gilllis...@canbyfoursquare.com wrote:
 As for the laser option, well it becomes quite an initial expense
 in comparison to purchase the printer ...

  The Brother I mentioned seemed to be about $50 more than a inkjet
with comparable features.

 ... and a set of toners.

  Have you priced ink cartridges lately?  And seen how often they have
to be replaced?

  Now compare that with the page volume of even the *starter* toner
cartridge that comes with most laser printers these days.

  You'd pay it off the first time you need to buy more ink.  Which
will be about one week after you buy the printer.

-- Ben

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RE: isa 2006 domain sets

2009-09-04 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
No but that's a thought, what I did notice that was odd, was that when I
goto www.microsoft.com the rule shows the IP address not the name. I can
resolve by name from ISA and it is pointing to the same internal DNS server
(that was my first inclination). I know the rule works because I have
several other IP ranges that function.  Very odd.

 

From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: isa 2006 domain sets

 

That is strange. I have several rules using Domain Name Sets running on my
ISA proxies. Are you seeing anything of interest in the event logs? Is the
ISA server using the same DNS servers as your clients?

 

Have you tried completely deleting the Domain Name Set and associated rule
and then recreating them? I've fixed some odd rule issues that way.

 

-Malcolm

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: isa 2006 domain sets

 

Yes that's it, in the same rule I have some ip sets and those work as
expected. Strange right?

 

From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: isa 2006 domain sets

 

There is no need for the FW client to do this. So you created a domain name
set, then you created a rule allowing traffic to that domain name set?
That's really all there is to do. Your domains were entered just as
*.microsoft.com (without the quotes), with no http://;, right?

 

-Malcolm

 

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: isa 2006 domain sets

 

Hey all, I have a locked down ISA 2006 box, it works pretty well, but we
need to allow some internet access to certain sites. I added a domain name
set for like *.microsoft.com  and *.symantec.com however that doesn't work.
I see in the logs that if I monitor it when I goto the site the monitor
agent is reporting the IP address(es) not the name. I went in and put a few
of the IP's in manually and that works.

 

Is there something Im missing for Domain Name sets to work? I looked at
Schinders isa 2004 article on it and don't think I saw anything relevant
unless I *need* to have the fw client to make this work which is not going
to happen. The server can resolve names correctly so its not that it cannot
resolve the DNS name it just doesn't.

 

 

TIA

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: OT Funny/Lame: RDP Infinite Loop

2009-09-04 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
Ive done this with radmin before by accident and it did the same  thing
never tried it with TS J

 

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Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 7:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT Funny/Lame: RDP Infinite Loop

 


Classic - thanks!
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RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

2009-09-04 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
I saw this the other day, I don't know why I never think to share it ... not
the mindset I guess..

Compared to what some SANs cost and what you get for the money it's a pretty
decent deal, just have fun finding a bad drive :)

-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

Between that, and Google's distributed commodity storage model, I think
there's some real compelling point for consideration for how some
specific-purpose resources can be provided.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k
 
 Wow, that might acutally satisfy our DBAs... for a year or two...  :-)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k
 
 http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-
 build-
 cheap-cloud-storage/
 
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RE: SPAM Solution

2009-09-04 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
Yah time machine is decent until you actually goto use it. 

 

From: tony patton [mailto:tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: SPAM Solution

 

I learnt the hard way, had 2 500Gb drive in raid 0 in my desktop. 
Bought a 1Tb drive to put into the esxi box to act as a file store and
backup, had 75% of the stuff copied onto it when 1 of the 500's died. 
Some of the stuff that was lost was about 30Gb of the wife's photo's that
she was working on, she still had the originals, but had lost the work she
had done on them. 

After that she bought a Mac and an external hard drive to backup to, but
still getting her to backup is a nightmare and all she has to do is connect
the external and the Mac does it automatically for her. 

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com 




From: 

Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 


To: 

NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 


Date: 

04/09/2009 14:08 


Subject: 

RE: SPAM Solution

 

  _  




No pictures? Tax/financial records? Home video?

A file server (even just using OS software RAID) is amazingly cheap to
acquire.

I've suffered multiple individual component failures in desktops and
servers at home, but have never lost a lick of important data...
including music.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [ mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 4:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
 
 local drives, with no backup at the moment.  I personally don't have a
 lot to lose on my computer, but my wife would kill me if she lost her
 music...  I've been thinking about Mozy, or something like that, but
 haven't gotten around to it.  My machines at home are home-built, and
 the newest is about 2-3 years old now.  About all we do on them,
 really, is listen to music, and play MMOs...
 
 If a computer crashed, I'd have to build from scratch.
 
  Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 10:15 AM 
 What do you do for file storage? Local C: drives and backups? If so,
to
 what?
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joseph Heaton [ mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:16 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
 
  I have a computer room, with 3 desktops connecting through a router
 to
  my cable modem.  My daughter connects from her room, through
wireless
  to the same router.  That's as complicated as I get at home, unless
I
  fire up my Ubuntu box, which I'm using for learning purposes, but
 even
  then, I unplug the third computer to do that.
 
  Unfortunately, that room is the hottest room in the house to begin
  with, doesn't get the same flow through the AC duct as the rest of
 the
  house, so my cooling bill is pretty outrageous in the summer.
 
  That's not saying that I wouldn't like to do some other stuff, like
  poke around with virtualization, etc., but I don't have the budget
to
  go out and buy hardware for it, and don't really have space for it
  either.
 
   Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 8:00 AM 
  Meh... I had ESXi running at home before we decided to go in on the
  business.
 
  At a cost of free, and with the flexibility you get, I don't see
 why
  you would NOT do it on a home net, unless you had some specific
  hardware
  you needed that ESXi choked on.
 
  And the home net _IS_ for play/non-work use. Music streaming, photo
  library, home movie streaming, interweb access, IP phone service,
  online
  Netflix/dish network, Exchange server, hobby mailing list servers,
  etc...
 
  Doesn't just about everybody have a home net these days? I'd only
  expect
  the nerds like us here to actually run a domain and have an IIS
 server,
  but we're also the audience that would likely then benefit from
 having
  a
  virtual infrastructure too...
 
  Last time I needed to move a server to a newer hardware platform it
 was
  just a file copy 
 
  -sc
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Joseph Heaton [ mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov
mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
   Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:49 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: SPAM Solution
  
   Key words for you Steven, were business startup.  When I'm at
 home,
   work is the farthest from my mind, if at all possible.  I play at
  home,
   work at work...
  
Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com 9/3/2009 7:32 AM

   Really?
  
   I have four ESXi hosts, one pair handling my home network, and
  another
   pair handling the production, dev, and test VM's, along with VPN
 and
   SharePoint servers for a business startup I'm involved with.
  
   I'd bet lotsa' folks here have ESXi at home...
  
   -sc
  
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [ mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov

RE: Windows Police Pro

2009-09-04 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
Uhm, don't you guys use opendns? This solves a lot of these problems FWIW

 

Once you get it of course its too late, but a decent a/v on the email and
opendns and your more likely to catch swine flu from the keyboard J

 


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RE: rpc over https

2009-09-04 Thread Brian Desmond
Well it's still required post 2003.

You shouldn't be doing OWA without SSL anyway.

Outlook 2007+ and Exchange 2007+ use SSL connectivity even while on the LAN for 
certain things - autodiscover, address book download, web services, etc.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132


-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: rpc over https

The SSL cert must be for whatever address your users will use from the outside 
(the inside will work too if you set up a split DNS structure).  The site 
really depends on how you set it up.  Could be the default, or possibly 
something else if you customize it.  I set ours up 4 or 5 years ago and haven't 
touched it since, so I don't really remember how much choice you have.  A quick 
look at the IIS config on our Exchange server puts it in the default site.

One thing about the cert you need to understand.  The trusted chain in the 
certificate store on your user's machines must go all the way up to the issuing 
authority.  It doesn't have to be a commercial cert, but the issuing authority 
must be trusted.  You can even use a self-signed cert, but it must be installed 
manually.  The easiest way to do this is with IE.

Once you get this working I think you'll really appreciate the benefits, at 
least with Exchange 2003.  The folks here rave about 2010's OWA, so maybe it 
won't be needed in the future.

Good luck,
RS

-Original Message-
From: Chris Orovet [mailto:coro...@atsi-inc.com]
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: rpc over https
Importance: High

Hey Guys and Gals,
 Can someone clarify this for me please. Im setting up rpc over https for some 
remote users that require access to mail and the contacts. Im finding 
conflicting information when setting up the ssl portion. Should the ssl cert be 
setup for my exchange internal fqdn or my external address? Also everything is 
pointing towards setting this up for my default website. Should this be setup 
for the exchange website and not the default?

I have 1 exchange server:

Windows 2003 ent sp2
Exchange 2003 ent sp2- This is my only DC as well(don't ask was made to set it 
up this way) If anyone has a link they can shoot me that would clarify this id 
appreciate it.


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F: (727)812-0278
Email: supp...@atsi-inc.com
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Re: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

2009-09-04 Thread Kurt Buff
Careful numbering during installation is a must in this case, I think.

And, while in the article they use HTTP for file access, I think an
iSCSI stack would be really cool, along with DRBD (under Linux),
carp/ggate/gmirror (under FreeBSD) or some other technology for
replication/HA.

Kurt

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 15:19, Benjamin Zachary -
Listsli...@levelfive.us wrote:
 I saw this the other day, I don't know why I never think to share it ... not
 the mindset I guess..

 Compared to what some SANs cost and what you get for the money it's a pretty
 decent deal, just have fun finding a bad drive :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

 Between that, and Google's distributed commodity storage model, I think
 there's some real compelling point for consideration for how some
 specific-purpose resources can be provided.

 -sc

 -Original Message-
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:28 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

 Wow, that might acutally satisfy our DBAs... for a year or two...  :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:50 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

 http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-
 build-
 cheap-cloud-storage/

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Re: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Link
Not every application supports file access via http, so isn't entirely the
bees knees.
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Benjamin Zachary - Lists li...@levelfive.us
 wrote:

 I saw this the other day, I don't know why I never think to share it ...
 not
 the mindset I guess..

 Compared to what some SANs cost and what you get for the money it's a
 pretty
 decent deal, just have fun finding a bad drive :)

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:40 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k

 Between that, and Google's distributed commodity storage model, I think
 there's some real compelling point for consideration for how some
 specific-purpose resources can be provided.

 -sc

  -Original Message-
  From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:28 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k
 
  Wow, that might acutally satisfy our DBAs... for a year or two...  :-)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:50 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: On Topic-ish: 67 terabytes, one box, under US$8k
 
  http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-
  build-
  cheap-cloud-storage/
 
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Re: SOHO MFP Printer Questions

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Link
+1000



On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Mike Gilllis...@canbyfoursquare.com
 wrote:
  As for the laser option, well it becomes quite an initial expense
  in comparison to purchase the printer ...

  The Brother I mentioned seemed to be about $50 more than a inkjet
 with comparable features.

  ... and a set of toners.

  Have you priced ink cartridges lately?  And seen how often they have
 to be replaced?

  Now compare that with the page volume of even the *starter* toner
 cartridge that comes with most laser printers these days.

  You'd pay it off the first time you need to buy more ink.  Which
 will be about one week after you buy the printer.

 -- Ben

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Re: rpc over https

2009-09-04 Thread Richard Stovall
Absotively you should be using SSL for OWA.  I was just referring to
RPC over https, the use of which for external mail clients might be
obviated in Exchange 2010 if the reviews are correct.  We're still on
2003, so I wasn't aware of the Exchange 2007 bits.

Thanks,
RS

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Brian Desmondbr...@briandesmond.com wrote:
 Well it's still required post 2003.

 You shouldn't be doing OWA without SSL anyway.

 Outlook 2007+ and Exchange 2007+ use SSL connectivity even while on the LAN 
 for certain things - autodiscover, address book download, web services, etc.

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 br...@briandesmond.com

 c - 312.731.3132


 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:01 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: rpc over https

 The SSL cert must be for whatever address your users will use from the 
 outside (the inside will work too if you set up a split DNS structure).  The 
 site really depends on how you set it up.  Could be the default, or possibly 
 something else if you customize it.  I set ours up 4 or 5 years ago and 
 haven't touched it since, so I don't really remember how much choice you 
 have.  A quick look at the IIS config on our Exchange server puts it in the 
 default site.

 One thing about the cert you need to understand.  The trusted chain in the 
 certificate store on your user's machines must go all the way up to the 
 issuing authority.  It doesn't have to be a commercial cert, but the issuing 
 authority must be trusted.  You can even use a self-signed cert, but it must 
 be installed manually.  The easiest way to do this is with IE.

 Once you get this working I think you'll really appreciate the benefits, at 
 least with Exchange 2003.  The folks here rave about 2010's OWA, so maybe it 
 won't be needed in the future.

 Good luck,
 RS

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Orovet [mailto:coro...@atsi-inc.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:48 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: rpc over https
 Importance: High

 Hey Guys and Gals,
  Can someone clarify this for me please. Im setting up rpc over https for 
 some remote users that require access to mail and the contacts. Im finding 
 conflicting information when setting up the ssl portion. Should the ssl cert 
 be setup for my exchange internal fqdn or my external address? Also 
 everything is pointing towards setting this up for my default website. Should 
 this be setup for the exchange website and not the default?

 I have 1 exchange server:

 Windows 2003 ent sp2
 Exchange 2003 ent sp2- This is my only DC as well(don't ask was made to set 
 it up this way) If anyone has a link they can shoot me that would clarify 
 this id appreciate it.


 Regards,

 Chris Orovet  Technical Support

 O: (727)812-0276 Ext. 125
 F: (727)812-0278
 Email: supp...@atsi-inc.com
 Web: http://www.atsi-inc.com


 Whatever relationships you have attracted in your life at this moment, are 
 precisely the ones you need in your life at this moment. There is a hidden 
 meaning behind all events, and this hidden meaning is serving your own 
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