RE: NAS/SAN

[Benjamin Zachary - Lists]

I was at the vmware forum the other day and netapp did a decent demo on
their new offerings with deduping backups, sql and exchange for storage
recovery. Also their app has a plugin for vcenter so you could manage the
SAN from the vi console which I thought was a nice little bonus.
 
Up to this point we have been building SANS via basic servers using either
Datacore or Starwind software controllers. For other areas we also use NFS
for less required storage like file sharing etc. 
 
My client just purchased 2 PS 6000's and I have another client who has an
HP-SAN and running 20 VM's on it ran it to a crawl so they are moving into
LeftHand after demoing it out. 
 
The hp san was managed and I never laid eyes on it other than running vmware
benchmarks on it and it didn't fare too well, it was their entry level
product. 
 
Starwind reports 3250 IOPS which is okay, but its memory usage masks a lot
of that if you get a server with a lot of ram then the disk i/o is pretty
good. Datacore does similar at a higher level (and price) but still less
than a hardware based SAN of similar size.
 
Im just learning about benchmarking SAN's myself (any tips appreciated). I
run DRBD/IET in my datacenter because I can babysit it. I also have a
Starwind server that does snapshot backups of all 4 of my esx servers and it
does it pretty well.
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: NAS/SAN

[Steven M. Caesare]

I've always wanted a pure R&D job...

 

-sc

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

How much fun would it be to work in a lab like that, and get paid to put
together and demonstrate the feasibility of 'ginormous' solutions.  All
the tools and all the toys, and a mission to make it all work.  Sounds
like a blast...

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Ben Scott]

  Best conspiracy theory seen so far: Microsoft did this deliberately,
in order to make people fear cloud computing (Google) and put their
trust back in traditional client/server (Microsoft).

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2009/10/12/the_sidekick_data_disaster/index.html

  Somebody please send a black helicopter over to Andrew Leonard's
property.  ;-)

* * *

  On the subject of whether Microsoft should get the blame or not for
the failure in Danger's systems:

  From a technology standpoint, If the rumors are correct -- a
third-party SAN upgrade went very wrong -- then that's nothing against
Microsoft's own technology and products.

  But from a business standpoint, there is no question.  Microsoft is
the one that gets the blame.  Microsoft acquired Danger.  When one
company acquires another company, the purchasing company takes on all
the liabilities of the purchased company.  The purchasing company is
required to perform "due diligence" to make sure they're not buying a
lemon.  I've been through a due diligence process for a 120 person
company; it was a year-long process that involved auditing every last
aspect of the business.  Microsoft should have performed this.  If
they didn't, that's Microsoft's fault.  If they didn't discover such a
glaring problem as "no backups", that's also Microsoft's fault.  If
they did discover it but didn't have it fixed within a year and a
half, that's also Microsoft's fault.  That's the way business works.
You own the problems along with the profits.  So this is a mark
against Microsoft's services offerings.

-- Ben

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RE: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Stu Sjouwerman]

Interesting:

There is no official word on the death of the Sidekick from Microsoft or
Tmobile, but it certainly looks bleak for the iconic device.

This week, Microsoft announced that they had lost all Sidekick user data
including pictures, contacts, calendars and other information from the
Danger's servers. Since the devices sync with the servers, the devices
also lost the data. The Sidekick data services had amazingly been out
over a week.

>From what they say, after a week of investigation, there is no way to
retrieve the user data. Customers will have to start over. The word on
the street is that it was a Hitachi SAN upgrade failure.

 

Warm regards,


Stu Sjouwerman
Founder, VP Marketing.
P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218
F: +1-727-562-5199
s...@sunbelt-software.com


  

 



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?


I've got to assume this is a Danger failing, and not a Microsoft
failing.   When did Microsoft acquire Danger?

--
ME2



On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott 
wrote:


 Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck
do
you loose an entire server cluster??

-- Ben


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RE: MPLS

[Davies,Matt]

We made the change to Maser�s VPLS solution ( A layer 2 MPLS cloud) over a  
year ago, we have different  local loop connectivity anything from a T1 up to 
100Mb.

We use QOS for both video and voice and do not have any problems with it, it 
does what it says on the tin.

The biggest benefit of VPLS from my point of view is that we can use whatever 
routing protocol you want to, we use OSPF, we also have public IP connectivity 
provided on a second port on the Masergy MIB, that allows us to use the same 
circuit for internet access well if needed. Masergy also hands the circuit over 
as Ethernet, so if you have a layer3 switch, then you dot anther router. 
Which if you are looking at running a DS3 circuit or greater  at full rate, 
with QOS, you will need a router with plenty of horse power.

From experience of VOIP all over the world, if you want a reliable connection, 
you need some form of QOS, both inbound and outbound on the circuit.

Cheers

Matt


From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: 09 October 2009 14:21
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MPLS


We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via 
point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. 
All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office 
having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and 
voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and 
remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors 
pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the 
price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I 
have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our 
dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would 
multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our 
main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is 
indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any 
opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd 
be willing to share.

Thanks.

Steve






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RE: NAS/SAN

[Richard Stovall]

On the complete opposite end of the spectrum is this video put together
to advertise Samsung SSDs.  It's a bit old now, so apologies in advance
if everyone's seen it already.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs&fmt=22

 

Silly, but fun nonetheless.

 

From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Try this on

 

http://www.emc.com/collateral/software/white-papers/h4427-secure-consold
td-16000-exch-users-sltn-vmware-emc-envrnmnt-wp.pdf

 

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

That wasn't HP.  That was NORAD.  How'd you get in there?

 

J

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

I went to HP in Colorado Springs a few years back.  They had everything
you could imagine running in this huge server room.  I remember they
even had this box they used for testing that had 2 miles of fiber coiled
up inside.  That is my idea of a playground.

 



From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

How much fun would it be to work in a lab like that, and get paid to put
together and demonstrate the feasibility of 'ginormous' solutions.  All
the tools and all the toys, and a mission to make it all work.  Sounds
like a blast...

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Citrix license change

[Webster]

XenDesktop is potentially moving to Named User but it _may_ be changed.
Citrix is taking a LOT of heat for this proposed change.  XenApp will stay
licensed for concurrent users.

Check this out:
http://entelechy.typepad.com/xencentric/2009/10/how-do-you-chose-a-vdi-licen
sing-model.html

Webster

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Subject: FYI: Citrix license change

 

Apologies for the wrap:

 

http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2009/10/09/citrix-s-cha
nge-to-per-named-user-xendesktop-licensing-are-they-really-screwing-everyone
-or-are-people-over-reacting.aspx

 

So basically Citrix is changing the license format from licenses for
individual products to a single license.   Our reseller informed me of this
today.  There is a "trade-up" program where you can trade in a single
standard license (unnamed) to two named licences.  For my agency, this
really sucks, and this is no great deal for my agency.  I have at least a
1:3 user to license ratio for XenApp, since many users are part-time, or
some work-night, others day, and the load and license usage balances out.
Now with "named user" licenses we need to purchase a license for every
single user.  

 

I know part of this is to push XenDesktop.  I've looked at it and really
can't find a place for it here.

 

As if XenApp isn't already expensive enough, now this. 


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RE: NAS/SAN

[Richard Stovall]

Nice.  Very nice.

 

From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Try this on

 

http://www.emc.com/collateral/software/white-papers/h4427-secure-consold
td-16000-exch-users-sltn-vmware-emc-envrnmnt-wp.pdf

 

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

That wasn't HP.  That was NORAD.  How'd you get in there?

 

J

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

I went to HP in Colorado Springs a few years back.  They had everything
you could imagine running in this huge server room.  I remember they
even had this box they used for testing that had 2 miles of fiber coiled
up inside.  That is my idea of a playground.

 



From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

How much fun would it be to work in a lab like that, and get paid to put
together and demonstrate the feasibility of 'ginormous' solutions.  All
the tools and all the toys, and a mission to make it all work.  Sounds
like a blast...

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Consumer ISP availability tool?

[Erik Goldoff]

Glad to help !
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

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From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consumer ISP availability tool?



Thanks.  They call themselves broadbandreports.com now (though
dslreports.com still works).  I completely forgot about them.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consumer ISP availability tool?

 

used to be dslreports.com , give it a look-see

 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

 

  _  

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Consumer ISP availability tool?

Anyone know of a site that will reliably compare broadband ISPs available at
a given home address?  I might have a home work-from-home user coming online
in Deerfield Beach, FL and have no clue where to look for broadband.

 

Thanks,

RS

 

 

 

 

 


 


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RE: NAS/SAN

[Thomas W Shinder]

Try this on

 

http://www.emc.com/collateral/software/white-papers/h4427-secure-consold
td-16000-exch-users-sltn-vmware-emc-envrnmnt-wp.pdf

 

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

That wasn't HP.  That was NORAD.  How'd you get in there?

 

J

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

I went to HP in Colorado Springs a few years back.  They had everything
you could imagine running in this huge server room.  I remember they
even had this box they used for testing that had 2 miles of fiber coiled
up inside.  That is my idea of a playground.

 



From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

How much fun would it be to work in a lab like that, and get paid to put
together and demonstrate the feasibility of 'ginormous' solutions.  All
the tools and all the toys, and a mission to make it all work.  Sounds
like a blast...

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy.

This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above,
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RE: Consumer ISP availability tool?

[Richard Stovall]

Thanks.  They call themselves broadbandreports.com now (though
dslreports.com still works).  I completely forgot about them.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Consumer ISP availability tool?

 

used to be dslreports.com , give it a look-see

 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

 



From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Consumer ISP availability tool?

Anyone know of a site that will reliably compare broadband ISPs
available at a given home address?  I might have a home work-from-home
user coming online in Deerfield Beach, FL and have no clue where to look
for broadband.

 

Thanks,

RS

 

 

 

 

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~   ~

Re: VMView and dual monitors

[James Rankin]

Connect the VMWare View client from your normal desktop first using the user
you are going to be using the dual screens with, and change the options for
display before you connect to the actual View desktop pool. There is an
option for windowed which I think is the one you want (not 100% sure tho!),
after that, it should automatically go to dual screen.

We also use a piece of software called SplitView which helps by doing things
like putting the pop-ups in the middle of one screen, maximising to one
monitor and other stuff like that. It is a licensed product which has been
worth the money.

2009/10/12 Craig Gauss 

> Is anyone using View to provide a desktop over multiple monitors?  I am
> doing some testing but I cant seem to get it to fully cover both
> monitors.  When it connects it just displays across both my monitors
> right in the center with gray bars of nothingness going down each side.
> Any ideas or suggestions?
>
>
> Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
> Riverview Hospital Association
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>


-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

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~   ~

RE: MPLS

[Bob Fronk]

No Porn.. it is blocked by iPrism.

I run redundant server centers in other locations.  Double-Take and DPM copy 
all data across sites.

The DS3 is Internet access, it is distributed via the 12 to 6 mbps MPLS back to 
the sites.  Only one site has access to the "full" DS3 Internet.  That site has 
about 50 users.

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MPLS

If I may ask... what kind of traffic warrants such high bandwidth?



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MPLS
Ranges from 50 to 3.  Depends on the site.

From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MPLS

WOW
Nice bandwidth you've got there.
How many users at each site?



From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: MPLS
I have been using Sprint for our MPLS for the last 5 year  We have sites with 
45mbps, 12mbps, and 6mps (9 sites total). I am running VOIP across all of these 
with no QOS issues or drops Service has been excellent.

From: chipsh...@comcast.net [mailto:chipsh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: MPLS


We have three satellite offices in two states connected to our main office via 
point to point T1s. Each office has their own dedicated Internet connection. 
All data and email is centralized in our main office with each satellite office 
having their own phone switch. We use VOIP for inter office communication and 
voice mail. We do not do video conferencing yet but do make use of VPN and 
remote desktop services for folks working remotely. I have several vendors 
pushing me hard for changing all our circuits over to MPLS. It seems that the 
price of doing this may be more than what everything currently costs now. I 
have also looked into leaving the P2P Ts as they are but switching most of our 
dedicated Internet connections to Comcast Business cable. Doing this would 
multiply my Internet bandwidth by a factor of 6 but cut my monthly costs at our 
main office by more than 75%. I've read up on MPLS and it seems that the QOS is 
indeed better but it also sometimes has packet loss issues. I'd appreciate any 
opinions on the switch to MPLS and any hands on experience stories that you'd 
be willing to share.

Thanks.

Steve





















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FYI: Citrix license change

[Tom Miller]

Apologies
for the wrap:
 
http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/brianmadden/archive/2009/10/09/citrix-s-change-to-per-named-user-xendesktop-licensing-are-they-really-screwing-everyone-or-are-people-over-reacting.aspx
 
So basically Citrix is changing the license format from licenses for individual 
products to a single license.   Our reseller informed me of this today.  There 
is a "trade-up" program where you can trade in a single standard license 
(unnamed) to two named licences.  For my agency, this really sucks, and this is 
no great deal for my agency.  I have at least a 1:3 user to license ratio for 
XenApp, since many users are part-time, or some work-night, others day, and the 
load and license usage balances out.  Now with "named user" licenses we need to 
purchase a license for every single user.  
 
I know part of this is to push XenDesktop.  I've looked at it and really can't 
find a place for it here.
 
As if XenApp isn't already expensive enough, now this. 
 
 
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RE: VIPRE defs changing?

[Alex Eckelberry]

Yes, it's only because it's a large update.  What this update does will
allow is a new updating mechanism which in the end is much smaller than
the previous updates.  But in order to do so, you will need to deploy
this new update package. 

 

Alex

 

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www.sunbeltblog.com  

 

 

 

 

From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VIPRE defs changing?

 


The notification I received said that no intervention is necessary.  I
am presuming this means that VIPRE service, auto-protection, etc
continue to run without some poor @#&* needing to go re-boot every @#&%
one of the agents to get it to apply. 

I believe it was a heads-up message because this particular set of
definitions was going to be much larger than the daily update, and that
it may or may not cause some networks congestion issues.
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Kurt Buff  wrote on 10/12/2009 01:52:09 PM:

> All,
> 
> Just got a notification from Sunbelt of an upgrade to the defs
> happening Nov. 3rd, with a complete replacement needed.
> 
> Unstated is how much manual intervention, if any, is needed.
> 
> Anyone from Sunbelt care to explain if our VIPRE Enterprise console
> can drive this, or provide a bit more explanation of the issues?
> 
> Kurt
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~

 

 

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Re: VIPRE defs changing?

[RichardMcClary]

The notification I received said that no intervention is necessary.  I am 
presuming this means that VIPRE service, auto-protection, etc continue to 
run without some poor @#&* needing to go re-boot every @#&% one of the 
agents to get it to apply.

I believe it was a heads-up message because this particular set of 
definitions was going to be much larger than the daily update, and that it 
may or may not cause some networks congestion issues.
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
 
ASPCA®
1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
Urbana, IL  61802
 
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Kurt Buff  wrote on 10/12/2009 01:52:09 PM:

> All,
> 
> Just got a notification from Sunbelt of an upgrade to the defs
> happening Nov. 3rd, with a complete replacement needed.
> 
> Unstated is how much manual intervention, if any, is needed.
> 
> Anyone from Sunbelt care to explain if our VIPRE Enterprise console
> can drive this, or provide a bit more explanation of the issues?
> 
> Kurt
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~

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~   ~

RE: VIPRE defs changing?

[Donald Bittenbender]

Techs are online and available in our VIPRE Enterprise discussion area, where 
they monitor product specific questions:

http://supportforums.sunbeltsoftware.com/categories.aspx?catid=27&entercat=y 

--
Donald Bittenbender
IT Developer/DBA
Sunbelt Software


-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VIPRE defs changing?

I've got similar questions and concerns, particularly with respect to the 
ability of previous agent versions to handle the change.  I can say that if 
it's the same switch to CRC4 definitions (from CRC8) that they put into the 
home product a while back, it will speed the process of applying def updates 
quite dramatically.  It will shock you how fast the incrementals are applied, 
particularly on older single core machines.

As far as manual intervention goes, I will treat this the same way I do all 
major Vipre updates/upgrades.  Very carefully.  That is, first turn off all 
automatic downloads and updates then deploy on only one machine.  (Mine).  If 
that's successful, then one or two more phases of limited rollout before 
deploying companywide.

RS

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VIPRE defs changing?

All,

Just got a notification from Sunbelt of an upgrade to the defs
happening Nov. 3rd, with a complete replacement needed.

Unstated is how much manual intervention, if any, is needed.

Anyone from Sunbelt care to explain if our VIPRE Enterprise console
can drive this, or provide a bit more explanation of the issues?

Kurt

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~   ~

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~   ~



..
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RE: Consumer ISP availability tool?

[Erik Goldoff]

used to be dslreports.com , give it a look-see
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks, & Security 

 

  _  

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Consumer ISP availability tool?



Anyone know of a site that will reliably compare broadband ISPs available at
a given home address?  I might have a home work-from-home user coming online
in Deerfield Beach, FL and have no clue where to look for broadband.

 

Thanks,

RS

 


 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Consumer ISP availability tool?

[Richard Stovall]

Anyone know of a site that will reliably compare broadband ISPs
available at a given home address?  I might have a home work-from-home
user coming online in Deerfield Beach, FL and have no clue where to look
for broadband.

 

Thanks,

RS


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: VIPRE defs changing?

[Richard Stovall]

I've got similar questions and concerns, particularly with respect to the 
ability of previous agent versions to handle the change.  I can say that if 
it's the same switch to CRC4 definitions (from CRC8) that they put into the 
home product a while back, it will speed the process of applying def updates 
quite dramatically.  It will shock you how fast the incrementals are applied, 
particularly on older single core machines.

As far as manual intervention goes, I will treat this the same way I do all 
major Vipre updates/upgrades.  Very carefully.  That is, first turn off all 
automatic downloads and updates then deploy on only one machine.  (Mine).  If 
that's successful, then one or two more phases of limited rollout before 
deploying companywide.

RS

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VIPRE defs changing?

All,

Just got a notification from Sunbelt of an upgrade to the defs
happening Nov. 3rd, with a complete replacement needed.

Unstated is how much manual intervention, if any, is needed.

Anyone from Sunbelt care to explain if our VIPRE Enterprise console
can drive this, or provide a bit more explanation of the issues?

Kurt

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~   ~

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RE: NTFS permissions issue

[Hilderbrand, Doug]

Make a batch file using xcacls.exe from the Microsoft resource kit. It dates 
back to NT4 days, but still works great. 




-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTFS permissions issue

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:29, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com 
>  wrote:
>> Is there ANYWAY I can setup the subfolders so that when I create new 
>> department folders, I can copy another folder's subfolders into the 
>> newly created folder, and NOT have the subfolder's copied permissions 
>> get overwritten by the folder inheritence of the newly created 
>> departmental folder?
>
>  "ROBOCOPY /COPYALL" will copy permissions to the target.

That'll work, but if the two departments need the permissions to be in the same 
style but with different groups, that's not the way to fly.

For instance, if directory1 needs permissions for managers and staff of 
department1, but directory2 needs permissions for managers and staff of 
department2, robocopy won't do the trick.

Fileacl and others will allow you to export the permissions from old directory, 
search/replace for directories and groups, then apply the massaged permissions 
to the new directory.

Kurt

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RE: VIPRE defs changing?

[paul chinnery]

I don't think any manual intervention is necessary, Kurt, unless you want to 
control the bandwidth usage.  That's the way I understood the notice.  
Didn't they do this a while back?  I remember turning off auto updates so I 
could control when the definition update went out.  I'll do the same this this 
time.

> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:52:09 -0700
> Subject: VIPRE defs changing?
> From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> 
> All,
> 
> Just got a notification from Sunbelt of an upgrade to the defs
> happening Nov. 3rd, with a complete replacement needed.
> 
> Unstated is how much manual intervention, if any, is needed.
> 
> Anyone from Sunbelt care to explain if our VIPRE Enterprise console
> can drive this, or provide a bit more explanation of the issues?
> 
> Kurt
> 
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RE: NAS/SAN

[Richard Stovall]

That wasn't HP.  That was NORAD.  How'd you get in there?

 

J

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 2:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

I went to HP in Colorado Springs a few years back.  They had everything
you could imagine running in this huge server room.  I remember they
even had this box they used for testing that had 2 miles of fiber coiled
up inside.  That is my idea of a playground.

 



From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

How much fun would it be to work in a lab like that, and get paid to put
together and demonstrate the feasibility of 'ginormous' solutions.  All
the tools and all the toys, and a mission to make it all work.  Sounds
like a blast...

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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VIPRE defs changing?

[Kurt Buff]

All,

Just got a notification from Sunbelt of an upgrade to the defs
happening Nov. 3rd, with a complete replacement needed.

Unstated is how much manual intervention, if any, is needed.

Anyone from Sunbelt care to explain if our VIPRE Enterprise console
can drive this, or provide a bit more explanation of the issues?

Kurt

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NAS/SAN

[Maglinger, Paul]

I went to HP in Colorado Springs a few years back.  They had everything
you could imagine running in this huge server room.  I remember they
even had this box they used for testing that had 2 miles of fiber coiled
up inside.  That is my idea of a playground.



From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN



How much fun would it be to work in a lab like that, and get paid to put
together and demonstrate the feasibility of 'ginormous' solutions.  All
the tools and all the toys, and a mission to make it all work.  Sounds
like a blast...

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy.

This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above,
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intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this
communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have
received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete
the message from your computer system.{token}

 

 

 

 


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~   ~<><>

RE: NAS/SAN

[Richard Stovall]

How much fun would it be to work in a lab like that, and get paid to put
together and demonstrate the feasibility of 'ginormous' solutions.  All
the tools and all the toys, and a mission to make it all work.  Sounds
like a blast...

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy.

This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above,
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such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the
intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this
communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have
received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete
the message from your computer system.{token}

 

 

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RE: The future is here

[Webster]

I also just got back from a week in Ft. Lauderdale, FL.  Stayed at the
Sheraton Suites.  Didn't feel like paying for Internet access in my room and
the free Internet in the lobby never worked.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu] 
Subject: RE: The future is here

 

I just got home from a week in Fort Lauderdale Florida, stayed at a pretty
nice resort.  No internet access in our room, wired or wireless.

Had to go to the lobby to get a wireless connection and then it was out a
couple of days.

They sure didn't put their money in internet access.

 

  _  

From: Leif Wahlberg [mailto:lef...@gmail.com]
Subject: The future is here

I am in Korea on a gig and is staying at a hotel in New Songdo City.

 

When I plugged my laptop into the network cable at the work desk and then
checked my connection it showed me that I had a public IP and when I did an
ADSL speed test, it gave me 80 Mbps in and 15 Mbps out. Now that will give
me a very nice VPN back to HQ.

 

The only drawback is that the power outlet at the desk is controlled by the
key card holder at the door. I enter the room, put my key card in the holder
and I have power. I tried leaving a card board dummy there, but the room
maid removes it when they service the room. Solution: There is a "hot" power
outlet behind the minibar refrigerator. Get an extension cord and you can
leave your notebook and router on while you leave your room.

 

This is definitely the hotel of the future. I have never seen these speeds
at hotels in the US. What is your experience?


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~   ~

Re: NTFS permissions issue

[Kurt Buff]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:29, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
>  wrote:
>> Is there ANYWAY I can setup the subfolders so that when
>> I create new department folders, I can copy another folder's
>> subfolders into the newly created folder, and NOT have the
>> subfolder's copied permissions get overwritten by the folder
>> inheritence of the newly created departmental folder?
>
>  "ROBOCOPY /COPYALL" will copy permissions to the target.

That'll work, but if the two departments need the permissions to be in
the same style but with different groups, that's not the way to fly.

For instance, if directory1 needs permissions for managers and staff
of department1, but directory2 needs permissions for managers and
staff of department2, robocopy won't do the trick.

Fileacl and others will allow you to export the permissions from old
directory, search/replace for directories and groups, then apply the
massaged permissions to the new directory.

Kurt

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NTFS permissions issue

[Maglinger, Paul]

Never tried it, but would robocopy do the job? 

-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NTFS permissions issue


PS - I even tried setting the permissions on the department folders to
FOLDER ONLY permissions (for applys onto), and the permissions from the
department folder were STILL pushed down to the subfolders underneath it
when I copied the subfolder1 and subfolder2 over (removing the original
permissions of those 2 folders).



Original Message:
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From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:16:19 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: NTFS permissions issue



trying to figure out a way to accomplish this...

I have a folder structure as follows

-department1
--subfolder1
--subfolder2

-department2
--subfolder1
--subfolder2

.etc

The permissions on the subfolders are very specific and they take make
awhile to set up.  Each time I create a new department folder (and there
are TONS of them) I create the 2 subfolders underneath it and have to
manually set the permissions on them (which is a pain).  Is there ANYWAY
I
can setup the subfolders so that when I create new department folders, I
can copy another folder's subfolders into the newly created folder, and
NOT
have the subfolder's copied permissions get overwritten by the folder
inheritence of the newly created departmental folder?   (copying folders
ALWAYS inherits the permissions of the parent folder they are copied
to...
and I do NOT have the option to "move" the folder either).

If I didn't explain this well, please let me know.
J





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Re: NTFS permissions issue

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
 wrote:
> Is there ANYWAY I can setup the subfolders so that when
> I create new department folders, I can copy another folder's
> subfolders into the newly created folder, and NOT have the
> subfolder's copied permissions get overwritten by the folder
> inheritence of the newly created departmental folder?

  "ROBOCOPY /COPYALL" will copy permissions to the target.

-- Ben

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Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Andrew Levicki  wrote:
> Trying to work out what the obvious joke is..?

  My assumption:

  Who the heck would buy IT services from a company called "Danger".
I mean... it's right there on the label!  ;-)

-- Ben

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Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
> Any company can have gaps, especially subsidiaries.

  This is as much about the PR game as business realities.  When
you're a high profile vendor and you screw up in a high profile way,
it gives you a black eye.

  Same with the IBM story someone posted.  Big Blue is always talking
about their ultra-reliable mainframes with their years of uptime --
and here a whole airline is knocked out??

  People always say "Nobody ever got fired for buying
(Microsoft|IBM)."  Which is probabbly true.  Buying is safe.  But
people *do* get fired for massive, public failures like this.  Point
being: Don't just assume the vendor -- whoever they may be, however
big they may be -- will be your savior when things go bad.  Audit the
vendor to ensure they are holding up their end of the bargain, and
still have contingency plans in case they don't.

-- Ben

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Re: NTFS permissions issue

[Kurt Buff]

There are several tools that can export permissions on an existing
directory structure into a text format.

You can then edit that file, and apply it to the new director[y|ies].

My favorite is fileacl.exe, but there are others.

Kurt

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:19, jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
 wrote:
>
> PS - I even tried setting the permissions on the department folders to
> FOLDER ONLY permissions (for applys onto), and the permissions from the
> department folder were STILL pushed down to the subfolders underneath it
> when I copied the subfolder1 and subfolder2 over (removing the original
> permissions of those 2 folders).
>
>
>
> Original Message:
> -
> From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:16:19 -0400
> To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> Subject: NTFS permissions issue
>
>
>
> trying to figure out a way to accomplish this...
>
> I have a folder structure as follows
>
> -department1
> --subfolder1
> --subfolder2
>
> -department2
> --subfolder1
> --subfolder2
>
> .etc
>
> The permissions on the subfolders are very specific and they take make
> awhile to set up.  Each time I create a new department folder (and there
> are TONS of them) I create the 2 subfolders underneath it and have to
> manually set the permissions on them (which is a pain).  Is there ANYWAY I
> can setup the subfolders so that when I create new department folders, I
> can copy another folder's subfolders into the newly created folder, and NOT
> have the subfolder's copied permissions get overwritten by the folder
> inheritence of the newly created departmental folder?   (copying folders
> ALWAYS inherits the permissions of the parent folder they are copied to...
> and I do NOT have the option to "move" the folder either).
>
> If I didn't explain this well, please let me know.
> J
>
>
>
>
> 
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RE: NTFS permissions issue

[Kennedy, Jim]

Set up one set of empty dummy folders with the perms you need, somewhere else 
outside this folder setup. Rename them to the new department as you need them 
and robocopy them to the real destination. Rinse, Lather, Repeat for each 
department.



-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NTFS permissions issue


PS - I even tried setting the permissions on the department folders to
FOLDER ONLY permissions (for applys onto), and the permissions from the
department folder were STILL pushed down to the subfolders underneath it
when I copied the subfolder1 and subfolder2 over (removing the original
permissions of those 2 folders).



Original Message:
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From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:16:19 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: NTFS permissions issue



trying to figure out a way to accomplish this...

I have a folder structure as follows

-department1
--subfolder1
--subfolder2

-department2
--subfolder1
--subfolder2

.etc

The permissions on the subfolders are very specific and they take make
awhile to set up.  Each time I create a new department folder (and there
are TONS of them) I create the 2 subfolders underneath it and have to
manually set the permissions on them (which is a pain).  Is there ANYWAY I
can setup the subfolders so that when I create new department folders, I
can copy another folder's subfolders into the newly created folder, and NOT
have the subfolder's copied permissions get overwritten by the folder
inheritence of the newly created departmental folder?   (copying folders
ALWAYS inherits the permissions of the parent folder they are copied to...
and I do NOT have the option to "move" the folder either).

If I didn't explain this well, please let me know.
J





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Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Kurt Buff]

February 2008.

It's a MSFT fail.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 08:53, Micheal Espinola Jr
 wrote:
> I've got to assume this is a Danger failing, and not a Microsoft failing.
> When did Microsoft acquire Danger?
>
> --
> ME2
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>>
>>  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
>> you loose an entire server cluster??
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
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>> ~   ~
>
>
>
>

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RE: NTFS permissions issue

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

PS - I even tried setting the permissions on the department folders to
FOLDER ONLY permissions (for applys onto), and the permissions from the
department folder were STILL pushed down to the subfolders underneath it
when I copied the subfolder1 and subfolder2 over (removing the original
permissions of those 2 folders).



Original Message:
-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:16:19 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: NTFS permissions issue



trying to figure out a way to accomplish this...

I have a folder structure as follows

-department1
--subfolder1
--subfolder2

-department2
--subfolder1
--subfolder2

.etc

The permissions on the subfolders are very specific and they take make
awhile to set up.  Each time I create a new department folder (and there
are TONS of them) I create the 2 subfolders underneath it and have to
manually set the permissions on them (which is a pain).  Is there ANYWAY I
can setup the subfolders so that when I create new department folders, I
can copy another folder's subfolders into the newly created folder, and NOT
have the subfolder's copied permissions get overwritten by the folder
inheritence of the newly created departmental folder?   (copying folders
ALWAYS inherits the permissions of the parent folder they are copied to...
and I do NOT have the option to "move" the folder either).

If I didn't explain this well, please let me know.
J





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Re: To All: Setback

[Kurt Buff]

Best of luck, sir. Keep good thoughts in mind and laughter in your
heart, and you'll do better than otherwise.

Kurt

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 09:05, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:
> Update on my current conditon.
>
> As some of you know I had a 5-1/2 heart bypass done at the end of July of
> this year. I have been at home, and out of work, recuperating. Everything
> has been going great. I have been doing cardio-rehab for the past three
> weeks and had been looking forward to be release to go back to work.
>
> But something happenend this past Monday.
>
> I went to the cardiologist and he cleared me to go back to work on Monday
> morning. That afternoon, I started to have some heart palpitations. I told
> my wife about this. We both just concluded that I was just excited because I
> was going back to work.
>
> On Tuesday evening, I was going to make an apple pie, sugar free of course,
> and was proceeding to slice some granny smith apples. In the process I cut
> my middle finger on a mandolin slicer. It was pretty severe. So much so that
> I went to the emergency room to get it looked at. Well, when I cut my finger
> the palpitations came back, and more severe than on Monday afternoon.
>
> When I got to the emergency room I told them that I had had heart bypass and
> that I was currently having heart palpitations. They hooked me up to a heart
> monitor and they did not look pleased. It was showing that my heart was
> skipping a beat. They gave me three nitro tablets and that seemed to help.
> About an hour later the palpitations started again. This time they gave me
> nitro paste. They put this paste on a strip of tape and put it on my chest.
> Again, it helped but for only an hour and a half. (They did sew up my finger
> during this, got five stitches.) They finally gave me a nitro drip and that
> helped. They told me that they would have to transfer me to Norton in
> Louisville where I was admitted initially.
>
> So, I got to ride in an abulance. Problem was I was strapped to a gurney
> facing backwards and no siren. :( This was around 12:30am Wednesday morning.
>
> We got to the hospital and they got me up to TCU. Now, when I was at
> Harrison County Hospital they put two IV's in me, one in each arm. One of
> the IV's was the nitro drip, When I got to Norton hospital the connectioms
> on the IV's were different and they couldn't put in any other IV's It tooke
> them two hours to decide what to do. During this tiem I was still having
> heart palpitations and was coughing, even though there was notihng in my
> lungs, and I was feeling awful. Once they got the nitro drip reconnected
> they gave me about 2ml of morphine and I went to sleep.
>
> When I woke up, I got to eat breakfast, but this was tgoing to be the last
> meal for next 24 hours. After that mean I was NBO and couldn't even have ice
> chips. My cardiologist came in and said that he was going to do an
> examination in the cath lab that evening. If there were any serious issues
> he would let me know. I got to the cath lab around 4pm and was wheeled into
> the operating room around 6pm. I was awake during the whole process. I ened
> up geting three stints put into my heart. The sad part of it was that all
> three went into three of the grafts that were put into my heart during
> bypass. I have pictures of the before and after of the stint operation and
> there is noticable improvement of the vessels in my heart.
>
> I was released from the hospital on Friday afternoon and now have more meds
> to take than before. I will be out of work for another month, but I will
> still get to go to cardio. I just have to start from the beginning.
>
> So, this is an update on my stiuation. I do appreciate your concerns and
> prayers.
>
>
>
>

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NTFS permissions issue

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

trying to figure out a way to accomplish this...

I have a folder structure as follows

-department1
--subfolder1
--subfolder2

-department2
--subfolder1
--subfolder2

.etc

The permissions on the subfolders are very specific and they take make
awhile to set up.  Each time I create a new department folder (and there
are TONS of them) I create the 2 subfolders underneath it and have to
manually set the permissions on them (which is a pain).  Is there ANYWAY I
can setup the subfolders so that when I create new department folders, I
can copy another folder's subfolders into the newly created folder, and NOT
have the subfolder's copied permissions get overwritten by the folder
inheritence of the newly created departmental folder?   (copying folders
ALWAYS inherits the permissions of the parent folder they are copied to...
and I do NOT have the option to "move" the folder either).

If I didn't explain this well, please let me know.
J





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Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Lee Douglas]

Speaking of jokes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKnMNjh9Z6I&feature=related

The day the data
died



On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) <
tom.alver...@ngc.com> wrote:

>  No, no, no – you need to use your Captain Kirk voice:
>
>
>
>
>
> Must….  resist……   making…..obvious…..   joke…….
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 10:57 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?
>
>
>
> Must resist making obvious joke...
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>
>  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
> you loose an entire server cluster??
>
> -- Ben
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Alverson, Tom (Xetron)]

No, no, no - you need to use your Captain Kirk voice:

 

 

Must  resist..   making.obvious.
joke...

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

 

Must resist making obvious joke...

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott 
wrote:

 Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
you loose an entire server cluster??

-- Ben


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RE: Patch management software question, again...

[Alex Eckelberry]

vulnerability assessment 

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

What's a VA Product?
Sam

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

AFAIK only the CTO left about a month ago, but you may have better intel
than me.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 6:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Big exec shake-up at Shavlik a couple weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Sorry all, I had no idea that there was this bad taste on Shavlik
products.  They license our VIPRE SDK for their new version (for
antimalware) and I've gotten to know their team fairly well, and think
highly of them from an engineering standpoint.  However, as always, the
actual admin that has to run the product is always the better judge. 

Incidentally, I am seeing a LOT of attacks using PDF and Flash, etc.  I
really wouldn't just rely on WUS -- if you do, at the very least, stay
on top of vulnerable attack vectors on non-MSFT programs.  And/or run a
free or cheap VA product. 

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

I like to think Alex spends his time making his awesome company more
awesome, other than reading every post on this list ;)



-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

>From Brian's post this Monday- "I couldn't stand Shavlik when I was
using it to patch 250 or so servers. Slower than anything and the UI was
awful over any sort of realistic RDP connection."

Also in the same thread, Joe said " Shavlik is what we're currently
using.  Looking to move away from it, possibly."

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

If you read one of Brian's recent posts to this list he created the tool
below because of his dislike for that particular product...

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Check out shavlik 

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

http://briandesmond.com/tools/simplepatch/#PatchingWithSimplePatch could
get you there with a little work. It has a /NoReboot option available.

The price is right for your environment and the warranty is exquisite.


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Patch management software question, again...

Anyone know of a patch management software that will allow you to check
a box to NOT have the software reboot your machine, AND will also give
you a report of servers that needed a reboot but weren't rebooted?

Joseph L. Heaton
Windows Server Support Group
Information Technology Branch
Department of Fish and Game
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk: (916) 323-1284
 
 



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RE: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Alex Eckelberry]

Somewhat related, but IBM is feeling pain today as well:

http://blogs.siliconvalley.com/gmsv/2009/10/air-new-zealand-boss-lands-hard-on-ibm.html



-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

Any company can have gaps, especially subsidiaries.

While I was on site at a rather large unnamed chip manufacturing
company (many years ago) they lost the PDC (NT3.51 or NT4 long ago).
So they promoted the BDC.  It went boom and keeled over and died.
They went to restore from backups.   It turned out not to be a
good week for some folks.  They also decided that 1 PDC and 1 BDC was
not perhaps the best ratio for a resource domain of over 20,000
objects in the future.

The management did turn this into a 'learning opportunity' for the
site.  No one was fired (the management believed they had just paid
for the learning experience of that mistake so might as well keep 'em)
though I believe those responsible had wished for a quick death
instead of being the 'living example' for the next two months.

Steven

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Andrew Levicki  wrote:
> I can't believe Microsoft would be responsible for not having implemented
> and tested a backup solution in any part of their business. They're always
> banging on this drum in any MS Press books about Windows Server
> administration: Do backups! Do restores! Test it!
> Next you'll be telling me they allow all their employees local admin rights
> on their computers. Oh...
> http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=105
> 2009/10/12 Kennedy, Jim 
>>
>> 2008ish so I vote MS failing
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-11acquisition.mspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:54 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?
>>
>>
>>
>> I've got to assume this is a Danger failing, and not a Microsoft
>> failing.   When did Microsoft acquire Danger?
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>>
>>  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
>> you loose an entire server cluster??
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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~   ~


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Re: To All: Setback

[Sherry Abercrombie]

Praying for your continued recovery Daniel.  Let us know when you get to go
back to work and we'll have a virtual party that day!!

Oh, and mandolins are really dangerous utensils.  The first time I used one
(slicing Granny Smith apples) I sliced my finger also.  No stitches needed,
just barely though.  I haven't used it since then, I'll just stick with my
handy dandy Pampered Chef Apple Peeler Corer Slicer thank you very much.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Daniel Rodriguez wrote:

> Update on my current conditon.
>
> As some of you know I had a 5-1/2 heart bypass done at the end of July of
> this year. I have been at home, and out of work, recuperating. Everything
> has been going great. I have been doing cardio-rehab for the past three
> weeks and had been looking forward to be release to go back to work.
>
> But something happenend this past Monday.
>
> I went to the cardiologist and he cleared me to go back to work on Monday
> morning. That afternoon, I started to have some heart palpitations. I told
> my wife about this. We both just concluded that I was just excited because I
> was going back to work.
>
> On Tuesday evening, I was going to make an apple pie, sugar free of course,
> and was proceeding to slice some granny smith apples. In the process I cut
> my middle finger on a mandolin slicer. It was pretty severe. So much so that
> I went to the emergency room to get it looked at. Well, when I cut my finger
> the palpitations came back, and more severe than on Monday afternoon.
>
> When I got to the emergency room I told them that I had had heart bypass
> and that I was currently having heart palpitations. They hooked me up to a
> heart monitor and they did not look pleased. It was showing that my heart
> was skipping a beat. They gave me three nitro tablets and that seemed to
> help. About an hour later the palpitations started again. This time they
> gave me nitro paste. They put this paste on a strip of tape and put it on my
> chest. Again, it helped but for only an hour and a half. (They did sew up my
> finger during this, got five stitches.) They finally gave me a nitro drip
> and that helped. They told me that they would have to transfer me to Norton
> in Louisville where I was admitted initially.
>
> So, I got to ride in an abulance. Problem was I was strapped to a gurney
> facing backwards and no siren. :( This was around 12:30am Wednesday morning.
>
> We got to the hospital and they got me up to TCU. Now, when I was at
> Harrison County Hospital they put two IV's in me, one in each arm. One of
> the IV's was the nitro drip, When I got to Norton hospital the connectioms
> on the IV's were different and they couldn't put in any other IV's It tooke
> them two hours to decide what to do. During this tiem I was still having
> heart palpitations and was coughing, even though there was notihng in my
> lungs, and I was feeling awful. Once they got the nitro drip reconnected
> they gave me about 2ml of morphine and I went to sleep.
>
> When I woke up, I got to eat breakfast, but this was tgoing to be the last
> meal for next 24 hours. After that mean I was NBO and couldn't even have ice
> chips. My cardiologist came in and said that he was going to do an
> examination in the cath lab that evening. If there were any serious issues
> he would let me know. I got to the cath lab around 4pm and was wheeled into
> the operating room around 6pm. I was awake during the whole process. I ened
> up geting three stints put into my heart. The sad part of it was that all
> three went into three of the grafts that were put into my heart during
> bypass. I have pictures of the before and after of the stint operation and
> there is noticable improvement of the vessels in my heart.
>
> I was released from the hospital on Friday afternoon and now have more meds
> to take than before. I will be out of work for another month, but I will
> still get to go to cardio. I just have to start from the beginning.
>
> So, this is an update on my stiuation. I do appreciate your concerns and
> prayers.
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Newark, TX, United States

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~   ~

RE: Patch management software question, again...

[Sam Cayze]

What's a VA Product?
Sam

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

AFAIK only the CTO left about a month ago, but you may have better intel
than me.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 6:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Big exec shake-up at Shavlik a couple weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Sorry all, I had no idea that there was this bad taste on Shavlik
products.  They license our VIPRE SDK for their new version (for
antimalware) and I've gotten to know their team fairly well, and think
highly of them from an engineering standpoint.  However, as always, the
actual admin that has to run the product is always the better judge. 

Incidentally, I am seeing a LOT of attacks using PDF and Flash, etc.  I
really wouldn't just rely on WUS -- if you do, at the very least, stay
on top of vulnerable attack vectors on non-MSFT programs.  And/or run a
free or cheap VA product. 

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

I like to think Alex spends his time making his awesome company more
awesome, other than reading every post on this list ;)



-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

>From Brian's post this Monday- "I couldn't stand Shavlik when I was
using it to patch 250 or so servers. Slower than anything and the UI was
awful over any sort of realistic RDP connection."

Also in the same thread, Joe said " Shavlik is what we're currently
using.  Looking to move away from it, possibly."

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

If you read one of Brian's recent posts to this list he created the tool
below because of his dislike for that particular product...

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Check out shavlik 

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

http://briandesmond.com/tools/simplepatch/#PatchingWithSimplePatch could
get you there with a little work. It has a /NoReboot option available.

The price is right for your environment and the warranty is exquisite.


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Patch management software question, again...

Anyone know of a patch management software that will allow you to check
a box to NOT have the software reboot your machine, AND will also give
you a report of servers that needed a reboot but weren't rebooted?

Joseph L. Heaton
Windows Server Support Group
Information Technology Branch
Department of Fish and Game
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk: (916) 323-1284
 
 



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RE: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Mayo, Bill]

No idea how accurate is, but there are reports that Microsoft has cut
resources to Danger in deference to their Pink project.



From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?


I can't believe Microsoft would be responsible for not having
implemented and tested a backup solution in any part of their business.
They're always banging on this drum in any MS Press books about Windows
Server administration: Do backups! Do restores! Test it!

Next you'll be telling me they allow all their employees local admin
rights on their computers. Oh...

http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=105

2009/10/12 Kennedy, Jim 


2008ish so I vote MS failing

 


http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-11acquisition.msp
x

 

 

 

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

 

I've got to assume this is a Danger failing, and not a Microsoft
failing.   When did Microsoft acquire Danger?

--
ME2



On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott
 wrote:

 Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck
do
you loose an entire server cluster??

-- Ben


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Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Steven Peck]

Any company can have gaps, especially subsidiaries.

While I was on site at a rather large unnamed chip manufacturing
company (many years ago) they lost the PDC (NT3.51 or NT4 long ago).
So they promoted the BDC.  It went boom and keeled over and died.
They went to restore from backups.   It turned out not to be a
good week for some folks.  They also decided that 1 PDC and 1 BDC was
not perhaps the best ratio for a resource domain of over 20,000
objects in the future.

The management did turn this into a 'learning opportunity' for the
site.  No one was fired (the management believed they had just paid
for the learning experience of that mistake so might as well keep 'em)
though I believe those responsible had wished for a quick death
instead of being the 'living example' for the next two months.

Steven

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Andrew Levicki  wrote:
> I can't believe Microsoft would be responsible for not having implemented
> and tested a backup solution in any part of their business. They're always
> banging on this drum in any MS Press books about Windows Server
> administration: Do backups! Do restores! Test it!
> Next you'll be telling me they allow all their employees local admin rights
> on their computers. Oh...
> http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=105
> 2009/10/12 Kennedy, Jim 
>>
>> 2008ish so I vote MS failing
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-11acquisition.mspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:54 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?
>>
>>
>>
>> I've got to assume this is a Danger failing, and not a Microsoft
>> failing.   When did Microsoft acquire Danger?
>>
>> --
>> ME2
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>>
>>  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
>> you loose an entire server cluster??
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Andrew Levicki]

I can't believe Microsoft would be responsible for not having implemented
and tested a backup solution in any part of their business. They're always
banging on this drum in any MS Press books about Windows Server
administration: Do backups! Do restores! Test it!

Next you'll be telling me they allow all their employees local admin rights
on their computers. Oh...

http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=105

2009/10/12 Kennedy, Jim 

>  2008ish so I vote MS failing
>
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-11acquisition.mspx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 11:54 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?
>
>
>
> I've got to assume this is a Danger failing, and not a Microsoft failing.
> When did Microsoft acquire Danger?
>
> --
> ME2
>
>  On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>
>  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
> you loose an entire server cluster??
>
> -- Ben
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Kennedy, Jim]

2008ish so I vote MS failing

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/feb08/02-11acquisition.mspx




From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

I've got to assume this is a Danger failing, and not a Microsoft failing.   
When did Microsoft acquire Danger?

--
ME2

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
you loose an entire server cluster??

-- Ben

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Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Andrew Levicki]

Trying to work out what the obvious joke is..?

2009/10/12 Jonathan Link 

> Must resist making obvious joke...
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>
>>  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
>> you loose an entire server cluster??
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Micheal Espinola Jr]

I've got to assume this is a Danger failing, and not a Microsoft failing.
When did Microsoft acquire Danger?

--
ME2


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

>  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
> you loose an entire server cluster??
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

VMView and dual monitors

[Craig Gauss]

Is anyone using View to provide a desktop over multiple monitors?  I am
doing some testing but I cant seem to get it to fully cover both
monitors.  When it connects it just displays across both my monitors
right in the center with gray bars of nothingness going down each side.
Any ideas or suggestions?
 

Craig Gauss,  Technical Supervisor/Security Officer
Riverview Hospital Association



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~   ~

Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Jonathan Link]

Must resist making obvious joke...

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

>  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
> you loose an entire server cluster??
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[Ben Scott]

  Seems more like a poke in the eye for Microsoft.  How the heck do
you loose an entire server cluster??

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: BES and email alias change

[wjh]

yeah, the hardest part will be getting users to change their signatures 
if you allow  them to have customized sigs.


Bill

Kevin Lundy wrote:
Greetings all - due to some regulatory changes, we will soon be 
changing our email domain to administratively separate us from our 
corporate parent.  We've got a handle on most of the issues (we 
believe).  We are fairly novice at the BES server however.  What 
impact will we see from a) changing the default reply address and b) a 
few months later dropping the original alias?

Thanks.
Kevin

 



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~   ~

Re: BES and email alias change

[Andrew Levicki]

The command in question there I believe is HandheldCleanup.exe

2009/10/12 List 

> Kevin
>
> I have had to do change domain names a few times and both times bes
> has picked up the primary email address on it's own after making the
> change on the exch server there may even be a way to force the update
> but I can't remember what it was.  Iwas on bes 4.x and 5.0 when making
> the VHF
>
> I did not understand you alias question.  Can you clarify?
>
> David
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>
> > Greetings all - due to some regulatory changes, we will soon be
> > changing our email domain to administratively separate us from our
> > corporate parent.  We've got a handle on most of the issues (we
> > believe).  We are fairly novice at the BES server however.  What
> > impact will we see from a) changing the default reply address and b)
> > a few months later dropping the original alias?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: BES and email alias change

[Sherry Abercrombie]

On Exchange you can have multiple smtp addresses or aliasesit's a common
way to refer to it by Exchange admins.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:30 AM, List  wrote:

> Kevin
>
> I have had to do change domain names a few times and both times bes
> has picked up the primary email address on it's own after making the
> change on the exch server there may even be a way to force the update
> but I can't remember what it was.  Iwas on bes 4.x and 5.0 when making
> the VHF
>
> I did not understand you alias question.  Can you clarify?
>
> David
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:
>
> > Greetings all - due to some regulatory changes, we will soon be
> > changing our email domain to administratively separate us from our
> > corporate parent.  We've got a handle on most of the issues (we
> > believe).  We are fairly novice at the BES server however.  What
> > impact will we see from a) changing the default reply address and b)
> > a few months later dropping the original alias?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>



-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: BES and email alias change

[Kevin Lundy]

Sweet.  so in other words, BES doesn't really care?

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:09 AM, N Parr  wrote:

>  Nothing, just did it a few months ago.
>
>  --
> *From:* Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 9:07 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* BES and email alias change
>
>  Greetings all - due to some regulatory changes, we will soon be changing
> our email domain to administratively separate us from our corporate parent.
> We've got a handle on most of the issues (we believe).  We are fairly novice
> at the BES server however.  What impact will we see from a) changing the
> default reply address and b) a few months later dropping the original alias?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: BES and email alias change

[Andrew Levicki]

Basically yes. BES carries on regardless. Sometimes displays the wrong
primary address in the console (irrespective of the address that the user
entered during Enterprise Activation), but email flow is unaffected, as is
actual Reply-to / default SMTP address that is sent around the world.
Hope that helps.

Andrew

2009/10/12 Kevin Lundy 

> Sweet.  so in other words, BES doesn't really care?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:09 AM, N Parr  wrote:
>
>>  Nothing, just did it a few months ago.
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2009 9:07 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* BES and email alias change
>>
>>  Greetings all - due to some regulatory changes, we will soon be changing
>> our email domain to administratively separate us from our corporate parent.
>> We've got a handle on most of the issues (we believe).  We are fairly novice
>> at the BES server however.  What impact will we see from a) changing the
>> default reply address and b) a few months later dropping the original alias?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: BES and email alias change

[List]

Kevin

I have had to do change domain names a few times and both times bes  
has picked up the primary email address on it's own after making the  
change on the exch server there may even be a way to force the update  
but I can't remember what it was.  Iwas on bes 4.x and 5.0 when making  
the VHF

I did not understand you alias question.  Can you clarify?

David


On Oct 12, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Kevin Lundy  wrote:

> Greetings all - due to some regulatory changes, we will soon be  
> changing our email domain to administratively separate us from our  
> corporate parent.  We've got a handle on most of the issues (we  
> believe).  We are fairly novice at the BES server however.  What  
> impact will we see from a) changing the default reply address and b)  
> a few months later dropping the original alias?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Kevin
>
>
>



  

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: BES and email alias change

[N Parr]

Nothing, just did it a few months ago.



From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: BES and email alias change


Greetings all - due to some regulatory changes, we will soon be changing
our email domain to administratively separate us from our corporate
parent.  We've got a handle on most of the issues (we believe).  We are
fairly novice at the BES server however.  What impact will we see from
a) changing the default reply address and b) a few months later dropping
the original alias?
 
Thanks.
 
Kevin

 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

BES and email alias change

[Kevin Lundy]

Greetings all - due to some regulatory changes, we will soon be changing our
email domain to administratively separate us from our corporate parent.
We've got a handle on most of the issues (we believe).  We are fairly novice
at the BES server however.  What impact will we see from a) changing the
default reply address and b) a few months later dropping the original alias?

Thanks.

Kevin

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Computer books online

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 8 Oct 2009 at 6:01, Brian Desmond  wrote:

> Likewise. I buy pretty much everything from Amazon so I do the Amazon Prime
> subscription ($75/yr) and it's fantastic.

FWIW it's $79/yr and there's a free one-month trial offer going on right now.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
+---+




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: A poke in the eye for cloud computing?

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

The "cloud computing" paradigm of the future?


On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Boy howdy, am I glad I'm not a Sidekick user
>
> Kurt
>
>
> From: Lauren Weinstein 
> Date: October 11, 2009 1:09:43 AM EDT
> To: d...@farber.net
> Subject: Microsoft's "Cloudburst" - Spectacular Data Loss Drowns Sidekick
> Users
>
>
>
>   Microsoft's "Cloudburst" - Spectacular Data Loss Drowns Sidekick Users
>
>   http://lauren.vortex.com/archive/000624.html
>
>
> Greetings.  In one of those "How the bloody hell could this happen?"
> moments that had damn well better be a wake-up call for the computer
> industry, it appears that T-Mobile's Sidekick mobile users have been,
> well, "kicked in the side" by a massive and apparently permanent data
> loss at the servers that provide the data foundation for the entire
> Sidekick system.
>
> While Sidekick mobile services are marketed by T-Mobile, the critical
> behind-the-scenes server functionality is provided by the (seemingly
> aptly named) "Danger" subsidiary of Microsoft.
>
> The Sidekick service has been unstable for some days, and it now
> appears that -- stunningly -- all Sidekick user data that had resided
> on the servers, that wasn't currently also present on the Sidekick
> devices themselves, has likely been permanently lost
> ( http://bit.ly/3oms2H ).  Users are being warned not to remove device
> batteries or let their batteries run down, or else any local data will
> also vanish -- the Microsoft/Danger network remains unstable, and
> devices are not being backed up to the net.  This includes contacts,
> to-do lists, calendar entries, photos -- the whole enchilada.
>
> This is obviously an incredibly dramatic systems failure, that by all
> expected standards should have been impossible.
>
> Some observers are suggesting that such a breakdown is a condemnation
> of the entire "cloud computing services" concept.
>
> I definitely would not go that far.  Cloud computing has enormous
> promise.  But, and this is one gigantic "but" -- only when such
> services are reliable both in terms of uptime and particularly
> relating to data protection, privacy, and security.  As increasing
> numbers of individuals and organizations move their operations to
> cloud-based services, the impact of system failures can be enormous.
>
> Another important related risk is being "locked into" particular cloud
> services.  Most cloud computing services make it as simple as possible
> to get your data into their universe.  But getting your data out again
> can often be anything but trivial.  If your data is "trapped in the
> cloud" and something goes wrong, it can be a very serious double
> whammy indeed.
>
> There are positive ways to proceed.  Google, for example, a leader in
> cloud computing, has recently launched a specific project -- The Data
> Liberation Front -- explicitly including as a key facet the goal of
> making sure that users can quickly and easily export data from Google
> products ( http://www.dataliberation.org ).  This ambitious and
> extremely important effort should be a model for the rest of the cloud
> computing industry.
>
> The Sidekick/Microsoft/Danger "Cloudburst" -- as bad as it has been --
> can still be a very valuable "teachable moment" in the short but
> already crucial evolution of cloud computing.
>
> A sustained failure to learn from such events could very much "rain"
> on cloud computing's parade -- and on many other aspects of the
> computing and telecommunications industries as well.
>
> --Lauren--
> Lauren Weinstein
> lau...@vortex.com
> Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
> http://www.pfir.org/lauren
> Co-Founder, PFIR
>  - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
> Co-Founder, NNSquad
>  - Network Neutrality Squad - http://www.nnsquad.org
> Founder, GCTIP - Global Coalition
>  for Transparent Internet Performance - http://www.gctip.org
> Founder, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com
> Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy
> Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurenweinstein
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>


-- 
-- 

Gregory Waleed Kavalec
-
What matters?...
Only the flicker of light within the darkness,
the feeling of warmth within the cold,
the knowledge of love within the void.
 — Joan Walsh Anglund

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~   ~

Re: To All: Setback

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

God be with you Daniel.
I have been much luckier, having gone straight to stents with no bypass
along the way. But believe me I *do* relate.



On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Rodriguez wrote:

> Update on my current conditon.
>
> As some of you know I had a 5-1/2 heart bypass done at the end of July of
> this year. I have been at home, and out of work, recuperating. Everything
> has been going great. I have been doing cardio-rehab for the past three
> weeks and had been looking forward to be release to go back to work.
>
> But something happenend this past Monday.
>
> I went to the cardiologist and he cleared me to go back to work on Monday
> morning. That afternoon, I started to have some heart palpitations. I told
> my wife about this. We both just concluded that I was just excited because I
> was going back to work.
>
> On Tuesday evening, I was going to make an apple pie, sugar free of course,
> and was proceeding to slice some granny smith apples. In the process I cut
> my middle finger on a mandolin slicer. It was pretty severe. So much so that
> I went to the emergency room to get it looked at. Well, when I cut my finger
> the palpitations came back, and more severe than on Monday afternoon.
>
> When I got to the emergency room I told them that I had had heart bypass
> and that I was currently having heart palpitations. They hooked me up to a
> heart monitor and they did not look pleased. It was showing that my heart
> was skipping a beat. They gave me three nitro tablets and that seemed to
> help. About an hour later the palpitations started again. This time they
> gave me nitro paste. They put this paste on a strip of tape and put it on my
> chest. Again, it helped but for only an hour and a half. (They did sew up my
> finger during this, got five stitches.) They finally gave me a nitro drip
> and that helped. They told me that they would have to transfer me to Norton
> in Louisville where I was admitted initially.
>
> So, I got to ride in an abulance. Problem was I was strapped to a gurney
> facing backwards and no siren. :( This was around 12:30am Wednesday morning.
>
> We got to the hospital and they got me up to TCU. Now, when I was at
> Harrison County Hospital they put two IV's in me, one in each arm. One of
> the IV's was the nitro drip, When I got to Norton hospital the connectioms
> on the IV's were different and they couldn't put in any other IV's It tooke
> them two hours to decide what to do. During this tiem I was still having
> heart palpitations and was coughing, even though there was notihng in my
> lungs, and I was feeling awful. Once they got the nitro drip reconnected
> they gave me about 2ml of morphine and I went to sleep.
>
> When I woke up, I got to eat breakfast, but this was tgoing to be the last
> meal for next 24 hours. After that mean I was NBO and couldn't even have ice
> chips. My cardiologist came in and said that he was going to do an
> examination in the cath lab that evening. If there were any serious issues
> he would let me know. I got to the cath lab around 4pm and was wheeled into
> the operating room around 6pm. I was awake during the whole process. I ened
> up geting three stints put into my heart. The sad part of it was that all
> three went into three of the grafts that were put into my heart during
> bypass. I have pictures of the before and after of the stint operation and
> there is noticable improvement of the vessels in my heart.
>
> I was released from the hospital on Friday afternoon and now have more meds
> to take than before. I will be out of work for another month, but I will
> still get to go to cardio. I just have to start from the beginning.
>
> So, this is an update on my stiuation. I do appreciate your concerns and
> prayers.
>
>
>
>
>
>


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-- 

Gregory Waleed Kavalec
-
What matters?...
Only the flicker of light within the darkness,
the feeling of warmth within the cold,
the knowledge of love within the void.
 — Joan Walsh Anglund

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: NAS/SAN

[Richard Stovall]

Thanks guys.

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

There ya go.

 

-sc

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: NAS/SAN

[Steven M. Caesare]

There ya go.

 

-sc

 

From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This e-mail contains the thoughts and opinions of the sender and does
not represent official Parkview Medical Center policy.

This communication is intended only for the recipient(s) named above,
may be confidential and/or legally privileged: and, must be treated as
such in accordance with state and federal laws. If you are not the
intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this
communication, or any of its contents, is prohibited. If you have
received this communication in error, please return to sender and delete
the message from your computer system.{token}

 

 

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RE: NAS/SAN

[Eldridge, Dave]

http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/microsoft_exchan
ge_mailbox?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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RE: Question for fellow VM Junkies

[N Parr]

Running 4



From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 7:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Question for fellow VM Junkies



Other than the VMotion/DRS issue no reason I can think of assuming
you're talking 3.5.x

 

John W. Cook

Systems Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Question for fellow VM Junkies

 

When should you NOT put your Virtual Swap File with the VM?  I'm
thinking maybe when the guest is residing on slower storage?  Put the
Swap file on faster storage?  Reason I ask is I've been playing with
different ways to set up shared storage on the cheap in my home lab.
Tried starwinds software iscsi client and the free version works very
well.  Discovered that my Buffalo Terastation Pro has NFS capability but
it's so slow compared to running starwinds on a box with fast storage.
I would rather use the Terastation so I didn't have to spin up an entire
physical server.  So my thinking would be to put the guest swap file on
the local storage on the VM Host, obviously not concerned about vmotion
at this point.

 

 



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RE: NAS/SAN

[Richard Stovall]

Link?

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Dell just published a white paper on a ginormous Exchange server using
the EquaLogic iSCSI devices... I think that as a generality his
statement needs qualification.

 

-sc

 

From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NAS/SAN

 

Ok, I just got off the phone with a StoneFly sales engineer...He had
some interesting things to say about EMC/Dell/Equallogic/NetApp and LSI.
I need some fact-checking from people who know more than I about this
sort of thing... he said that those are "dumb" ISCSI devices that can't
handle a lot of connections at once and that I ought to buy their
product because that hardware can handle a lot more connections and a
lot higher throughput than the competition. 

 

Was he just blowing smoke up my rear or is that stuff true?

 

Thanks!

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Patch management software question, again...

[Alex Eckelberry]

AFAIK only the CTO left about a month ago, but you may have better intel
than me.

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 6:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Big exec shake-up at Shavlik a couple weeks ago.

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] 
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Sorry all, I had no idea that there was this bad taste on Shavlik
products.  They license our VIPRE SDK for their new version (for
antimalware) and I've gotten to know their team fairly well, and think
highly of them from an engineering standpoint.  However, as always, the
actual admin that has to run the product is always the better judge. 

Incidentally, I am seeing a LOT of attacks using PDF and Flash, etc.  I
really wouldn't just rely on WUS -- if you do, at the very least, stay
on top of vulnerable attack vectors on non-MSFT programs.  And/or run a
free or cheap VA product. 

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

I like to think Alex spends his time making his awesome company more
awesome, other than reading every post on this list ;)



-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

>From Brian's post this Monday- "I couldn't stand Shavlik when I was
using it to patch 250 or so servers. Slower than anything and the UI was
awful over any sort of realistic RDP connection."

Also in the same thread, Joe said " Shavlik is what we're currently
using.  Looking to move away from it, possibly."

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

If you read one of Brian's recent posts to this list he created the tool
below because of his dislike for that particular product...

-Original Message-
From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

Check out shavlik 

-Original Message-
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management software question, again...

http://briandesmond.com/tools/simplepatch/#PatchingWithSimplePatch could
get you there with a little work. It has a /NoReboot option available.

The price is right for your environment and the warranty is exquisite.


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Patch management software question, again...

Anyone know of a patch management software that will allow you to check
a box to NOT have the software reboot your machine, AND will also give
you a report of servers that needed a reboot but weren't rebooted?

Joseph L. Heaton
Windows Server Support Group
Information Technology Branch
Department of Fish and Game
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk: (916) 323-1284
 
 



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RE: Question for fellow VM Junkies

[John Cook]

Other than the VMotion/DRS issue no reason I can think of assuming you're 
talking 3.5.x

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Question for fellow VM Junkies


When should you NOT put your Virtual Swap File with the VM?  I'm thinking maybe 
when the guest is residing on slower storage?  Put the Swap file on faster 
storage?  Reason I ask is I've been playing with different ways to set up 
shared storage on the cheap in my home lab.  Tried starwinds software iscsi 
client and the free version works very well.  Discovered that my Buffalo 
Terastation Pro has NFS capability but it's so slow compared to running 
starwinds on a box with fast storage.  I would rather use the Terastation so I 
didn't have to spin up an entire physical server.  So my thinking would be to 
put the guest swap file on the local storage on the VM Host, obviously not 
concerned about vmotion at this point.






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Question for fellow VM Junkies

[N Parr]

When should you NOT put your Virtual Swap File with the VM?  I'm
thinking maybe when the guest is residing on slower storage?  Put the
Swap file on faster storage?  Reason I ask is I've been playing with
different ways to set up shared storage on the cheap in my home lab.
Tried starwinds software iscsi client and the free version works very
well.  Discovered that my Buffalo Terastation Pro has NFS capability but
it's so slow compared to running starwinds on a box with fast storage.
I would rather use the Terastation so I didn't have to spin up an entire
physical server.  So my thinking would be to put the guest swap file on
the local storage on the VM Host, obviously not concerned about vmotion
at this point.


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Re: The future is here

[Andrew Levicki]

You're right, Let's talk about religion!
Andrew

2009/10/12 Ben Scott 

> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Miguel Gonzalez
>  wrote:
> > Socialism? Sorry but Canada has a public health care system ...
>
> 
>
>  Can we please keep the political discussions off this list?
>
>  They *never* go anywhere.
>
>  Thanks.
>
> 
>
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Re: The future is here

[Ben Scott]

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 2:41 AM, Miguel Gonzalez
 wrote:
> Socialism? Sorry but Canada has a public health care system ...



  Can we please keep the political discussions off this list?

  They *never* go anywhere.

  Thanks.



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RE: NAS/SAN

[Maglinger, Paul]

Strictly Windows environment?  HP is a good choice but if you hit it
heavy you'll need to tweak some registry settings on the Storage Server.
The upside is that there is a lot of information out there on how to do
this.  HP EVAs seem to handle mixed disks better (though not
recommended, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do).
 
If you're running a mixed environment of Windows and UNIX, NetApp deals
better with the mixed permissions.
 
EMC quotes always seems to come in higher than all the rest.  We've
never been able to justify the cost.
 
YMMV
 
-Paul



From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NAS/SAN



So, we're working on getting our first big "storage appliance" here. As
the IT Manager it's my job to get quotes, etc. I'm talking to all the
"big boys" out there and getting a lot of good quotes. My requirements
are fairly simple:

1)  On the order of 5 Terabytes of storage (significantly more than
we are using currently.)

2)  Redundant everything (disks, controllers, network, power, etc.)

 

That's about it. We are looking, eventually, to bring email in-house,
probably using Kerio mail server as it's got the features we need at a
price we can live with. The problem is that I'm getting quotes all over
the place. The last quote I got was for a QNap ISCSI NAS with 6 1 Tb
drives, but it doesn't have the redundancy I'm looking for (no redundant
controllers.)

 

I've gotten quotes from vendors for HP, LSI, NetApp, QNap and am working
on an Equallogic quote. Anyone else I should be looking at? Our plan is
to get two of these for DR/Business Continuity purposes and have one of
them at a remote office, and possibly even back the remote one up to
tape. J

 

Am I being too paranoid? Not enough? Anything else I should be looking
at? At first I was really wanting single-instance storage, but the LSI
vendor kind of talked me out of that being a requirement. I get a report
every night from the current storage detailing all duplicate files, and
there aren't that many so I think I can get away with not having
de-duplication/single-instance storage.

 

Your thoughts, please?

  

 

 

 


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