Re: Web based survey software?
Check out LimeSurvey. PHP based, uses your choice of SQL backends. Open source. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District On May 11, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: For anyone else, since Kurt stated that SQL was desirable... If you're looking to host a survey application yourself and the need for an external DB engine is not required/desired, SurveyGold may be the ticket. We've used it before and been pleased. The one time we did have some issues, we emailed support, and the developer was very responsive to our emails. We liked it enough that we ended up buying the upgrade a while back and used it. Since then, however, most of what we have done has been on SurveyMonkey. http://www.surveygold.com/ I'm not sure whether it runs on Server 03 or 08, as we ran it from an XP workstation, but since it states that it will run on Win7, I don't know why it wouldn't run on Server 08. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Web based survey software? That's not an issue. I actually consider that a feature for our purposes. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 14:37, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Oh yeah...requires SQL, though - so additional cost if you don't have it up already. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Web based survey software? Awesome. Thank you sir. Kurt On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 14:16, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: $70 http://www.xigla.com/absolutepm/index.htm -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Web based survey software? I'm familiar with surveymonkey, which is really nice, but I'm looking for something to run in IIS for our intranet - it doesn't have to be quite as featureful as surveymonkey. Free (as in OSS) is my favorite price, but if it doesn't cost too much we'd consider buying. My searches so far haven't been very successful. Anybody know of something like this? We're running Win2k3 at the moment. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Life just keeps getting better....
Once you have code running as system/root, your whitelisting software becomes irrelevant. Because the system that implements ACLs on anything can simply be subverted or replaced. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 11:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Life just keeps getting better In the context of simple whitelisting systems I agree, but in the case of something like CSA unless your fake Notepad has specific permissions to modify scvhost (for example) it will get denied. By specific I mean VERY specific. That process started by a specific user from a specific path has the ability to do a specific modification to scvhost and again only to a specific path and a specific modification. So that code can run and do things, but taking over a box or modifying a box isn't going to happen. -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Life just keeps getting better Once code is running as system, it's irrelevant what system you try to put in place to prevent it. Whitelisting is not going to help, because the rootkit can simply report that it's notepad. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Intresting AV attack bypass article
Anyone read this article on this new AV exploit that researchers discovered?: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/07/argument_switch_av_bypass/ http://www.matousec.com/info/articles/khobe-8.0-earthquake-for-windows-desktop-security-software.php Pretty much every AV vendor failed the exploit as well. Sigh, Let's hope this doesn't get into the wild, but with so much detailed info on what they did someone will make this a reality. -Greg ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Fwd: FW: Encrypted files.
I received the email below from a public sector entity we work with, who are maintaining that for security reasons they now send out certain documents as encrypted .exe files, which they expect our users to unpack themselves. Notwithstanding that a) the IronPort isn't particularly keen on letting executable attachments through, b) our Application Management solution won't execute anything that isn't owned by Administrators, and c) our whitelist GPO won't execute anything that doesn't match one of its hash rules, this sort of approach seems a little, well, archaic to me. The best bit is, they are sending the password for the encrypted executable to our users via a plain-text, unencrypted email, so the security is more or less worthless anyway. My question is, how do other people handle transmission of encrypted data to users who work in a locked-down environment? We use the IronPort's built-in encryption features to handle our user's requirements to *send *sensitive data, but I'm looking for something to work the other way. I can only assume there are far better ways than sending out executable files via email, so I am looking for some real-world solutions. I *could* ratchet down our end-user security to allow these through, but I'd sooner propose something else that allows me to keep it in place. TIA, JRR -- Forwarded message -- From: James Rankin james.ran...@4hg.co.uk Date: 12 May 2010 10:49 Subject: FW: Encrypted files. To: kz2...@gmail.com kz2...@gmail.com I understand from xxx that there has been a request from xxx that the landlord schedules are not sent as .exe files, unfortunately we are unable to send any information out externally relating to unless it has been encrypted. This is xxx policy I'm afraid, we did used to zip the files and password protect them but this has been deemed not secure enough. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause to yourselves when you receive the file but as stated previously the current way we send the files is now standard xx practice. Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: FW: Encrypted files.
Via email .. S/MIME is the easiest for users to understand and certificates are cheap. No admin needed at all. Weakness is that it's only encrypted as far as the mailbox, so the user would be prone to saving it unencrypted to a file share (may not be an issue at all). Weaker than that, and a good complimentary measure, is TLS between mail servers to ensure confidentiality of transmission, even when they forget to encrypt the file. Aside from that, HTTPS portals are good. We'd do a basic security evaluation of the portal in question and potentially allow access to that. Or host it the other way around from our own portal. With PGP and self-decrypting archives (the SDA .exe bother ..!) we don't find it an easy solution. PGP confuses basic users at the best of times and having to unzip (as .exe is blocked by most gateways and also by nearly all email clients), then unencrypt a file really does their heads in! With keys, it's much better, but you still have an initial learning curve. alan From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: 12 May 2010 10:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Fwd: FW: Encrypted files. I received the email below from a public sector entity we work with, who are maintaining that for security reasons they now send out certain documents as encrypted .exe files, which they expect our users to unpack themselves. Notwithstanding that a) the IronPort isn't particularly keen on letting executable attachments through, b) our Application Management solution won't execute anything that isn't owned by Administrators, and c) our whitelist GPO won't execute anything that doesn't match one of its hash rules, this sort of approach seems a little, well, archaic to me. The best bit is, they are sending the password for the encrypted executable to our users via a plain-text, unencrypted email, so the security is more or less worthless anyway. My question is, how do other people handle transmission of encrypted data to users who work in a locked-down environment? We use the IronPort's built-in encryption features to handle our user's requirements to send sensitive data, but I'm looking for something to work the other way. I can only assume there are far better ways than sending out executable files via email, so I am looking for some real-world solutions. I *could* ratchet down our end-user security to allow these through, but I'd sooner propose something else that allows me to keep it in place. TIA, JRR -- Forwarded message -- From: James Rankin james.ran...@4hg.co.uk Date: 12 May 2010 10:49 Subject: FW: Encrypted files. To: kz2...@gmail.com kz2...@gmail.com I understand from xxx that there has been a request from xxx that the landlord schedules are not sent as .exe files, unfortunately we are unable to send any information out externally relating to unless it has been encrypted. This is xxx policy I'm afraid, we did used to zip the files and password protect them but this has been deemed not secure enough. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause to yourselves when you receive the file but as stated previously the current way we send the files is now standard xx practice. Thanks. WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
On Tue May 11 2010, you wrote: Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? Wasn't an option on the machine I was wanting to order the user -- Optiplex 740. Why they didn't offer Win7, I don't know, but it wasn't an option. Only Vista. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
On Tue May 11 2010, you wrote: Maybe the machine in question has a Vista COA and they don't want to spring for Win7 upgrades. Maybe it's a case of if it ain't broke... Pretty much. :-) As I said in reply to the original question, it wasn't offered in Win7, only various flavors of Vista, and we're on an extremely tight budget this year, only replacing machines that are dying, so I got Vista. -- Thanks, John Aldrich Blueridge Industries IT Manager ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intresting AV attack bypass article
Already covered in another thread. For the record, I agree with the analysis here: http://www.sophos .com/blogs/duck/g/2010/05/11/khobe-vulnerability-earth-shaker/ Earth Shaking is quite a bit of hyperbole, IMO... -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Greg Olson gol...@markettools.com wrote: Anyone read this article on this new AV exploit that researchers discovered?: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/07/argument_switch_av_bypass/ http://www.matousec.com/info/articles/khobe-8.0-earthquake-for-windows-desktop-security-software.php Pretty much every AV vendor failed the exploit as well. Sigh, Let's hope this doesn't get into the wild, but with so much detailed info on what they did someone will make this a reality. -Greg ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Life just keeps getting better....
Which implies that no protection is possible *after* a compromise. Which is not in dispute. We're talking about prevention, Ken. The point being made is that whitelisting as an approach does not suffer the inherent drawbacks of zero-day malignant code -- e.g. it won't allow it to run, thereby avoiding the doomday scenario you have articulated below. Stopping only things you know to be bad will not sufficiently scale, since by definition, you don't know about any new malware in advance. Allowing only things you know to be good to execute is far more sustainable, as it will not change to the degree that the list of malware will... -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Once you have code running as system/root, your whitelisting software becomes irrelevant. Because the system that implements ACLs on anything can simply be subverted or replaced. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, 11 May 2010 11:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Life just keeps getting better In the context of simple whitelisting systems I agree, but in the case of something like CSA unless your fake Notepad has specific permissions to modify scvhost (for example) it will get denied. By specific I mean VERY specific. That process started by a specific user from a specific path has the ability to do a specific modification to scvhost and again only to a specific path and a specific modification. So that code can run and do things, but taking over a box or modifying a box isn't going to happen. -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Life just keeps getting better Once code is running as system, it's irrelevant what system you try to put in place to prevent it. Whitelisting is not going to help, because the rootkit can simply report that it's notepad. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Stupid licensing question - Win7
That's not the appropriate license for those systems... Can you return them? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Our company has ordered a bunch of OEM/System Builder license Win7 packages - they didn't use the open license agreements we have with our two normal vendors. Since this seems to need clarification: You have a bunch of existing PCs running an older version of Windows. Someone ordered a big pile of Win7 OEM licenses. That was wrong; they should have ordered volume licenses. You'd like to convert the OEM licenses into something that will give you license compliance for those PCs. Do I have that right? -- Ben Correct for the most part - we did order new PCs for the engineers, and they came with no OS, but these machines are for internal use only. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Web based survey software?
SQL Express should work just fine, especially internally. -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:39 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Crap, I was getting excited there for a second. - Original Message - From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: RE: Web based survey software? Oh yeah...requires SQL, though - so additional cost if you don't have it up already. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Web based survey software? Awesome. Thank you sir. Kurt On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 14:16, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: $70 http://www.xigla.com/absolutepm/index.htm -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Web based survey software? I'm familiar with surveymonkey, which is really nice, but I'm looking for something to run in IIS for our intranet - it doesn't have to be quite as featureful as surveymonkey. Free (as in OSS) is my favorite price, but if it doesn't cost too much we'd consider buying. My searches so far haven't been very successful. Anybody know of something like this? We're running Win2k3 at the moment. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Well, I can confirm... I didn't see this until this morning (Wednesday). I didn't find it all that amuzing... -- richard Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote on 05/11/2010 04:27:37 PM: Why is this funny only on Tuesday? On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d *Erik Goldoff*** *IT Consultant* *Systems, Networks, Security * ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
Get a deal on it? -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 5/11/2010 10:48 AM Is there any way to go back to the “classic” login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I’m a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the “usual” spot (control panel →users) but didn’t see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: FW: Encrypted files.
I feel your pain. MOST of our partners are OK with using TLS between our mail servers...but there is one that requires us to burn whatever.file to a CD in SDA format and overnight it to them. We send CDs to one particular person (presumably the only person there that can handle decrypting a file with a key) and follow up the shipment with the decrypt key via email. Jim Jim Holmgren Manager of Server Engineering XLHealth Corporation The Warehouse at Camden Yards 351 West Camden Street, Suite 100 Baltimore, MD 21201 410.625.2200 (main) 443.524.8573 (direct) 443-506.2400 (cell) www.xlhealth.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 5:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Fwd: FW: Encrypted files. I received the email below from a public sector entity we work with, who are maintaining that for security reasons they now send out certain documents as encrypted .exe files, which they expect our users to unpack themselves. Notwithstanding that a) the IronPort isn't particularly keen on letting executable attachments through, b) our Application Management solution won't execute anything that isn't owned by Administrators, and c) our whitelist GPO won't execute anything that doesn't match one of its hash rules, this sort of approach seems a little, well, archaic to me. The best bit is, they are sending the password for the encrypted executable to our users via a plain-text, unencrypted email, so the security is more or less worthless anyway. My question is, how do other people handle transmission of encrypted data to users who work in a locked-down environment? We use the IronPort's built-in encryption features to handle our user's requirements to send sensitive data, but I'm looking for something to work the other way. I can only assume there are far better ways than sending out executable files via email, so I am looking for some real-world solutions. I *could* ratchet down our end-user security to allow these through, but I'd sooner propose something else that allows me to keep it in place. TIA, JRR -- Forwarded message -- From: James Rankin james.ran...@4hg.co.uk Date: 12 May 2010 10:49 Subject: FW: Encrypted files. To: kz2...@gmail.com kz2...@gmail.com I understand from xxx that there has been a request from xxx that the landlord schedules are not sent as .exe files, unfortunately we are unable to send any information out externally relating to unless it has been encrypted. This is xxx policy I'm afraid, we did used to zip the files and password protect them but this has been deemed not secure enough. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause to yourselves when you receive the file but as stated previously the current way we send the files is now standard xx practice. Thanks. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este facsímile, incluyendo lo adjunto, es para el uso exclusivo del destinatario(s) y puede contener información confidencial y/o información protegida de salud. En virtud de la Ley Federal (HIPAA), el destinatario tiene la obligación de mantener esta información segura y confidencial. Cualquier divulgación a terceros sin la autorización de los miembros de lo permitido por la ley está prohibido y penado en virtud de la Ley Federal. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, póngase en contacto con el remitente por teléfono y destruir todas las copias del mensaje original ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
Not bad... under $800 for a pretty powerful system with a 17 wide-screen LCD. -Original Message- From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:kels...@sctax.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vista login screen Get a deal on it? -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen Wow, first Vista at this point? Why not skip and go to Win7? John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com 5/11/2010 10:48 AM Is there any way to go back to the classic login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and Im a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the usual spot (control panel ?users) but didnt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Outlook 2007 issue
I have one user who's Outlook keeps coming up with an error about cannot open Outlook Window. I researched it last time it happened and found the solution is to start outlook with the cleannavpane switch. Apparently something is corrupting the Outlook nav window. Any idea what's going on? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Web Filter mobile users
Good morning! Currently we use an iPrism device and set IE to proxy to the iPrism for mobile users. This works well when they are at home or free wifi. However, in many instances the users are at hotels that require you to log in to their local web page first. The IE proxy does not allow this. The solution is to add exceptions to the IE Proxy list, however, this would be nearly impossible due to the large number of places our employees stay. We have considered requiring VPN for all mobile users, but I am afraid this might cause a bottle neck in our bandwidth. I am looking into alternatives for mobile user web filtering. I would welcome input from the group. BF ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Outlook 2007 issue
Possible a corrupt forms cache ? have you tried deleting the cache files from the user’s application data/Microsoft/Outlook folder (frmcache.dat file) ( or is it in a FORMS subfolder for 2007 ???) Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2007 issue I have one user who’s Outlook keeps coming up with an error about “cannot open Outlook Window.” I researched it last time it happened and found the solution is to start outlook with the “cleannavpane” switch. Apparently something is corrupting the Outlook nav window. Any idea what’s going on? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Web Filter mobile users
We use a program called covenanteyes.com They support this and it works very well. To uninstall you need an admin code, all admins can get reports on individual users. Its mostly designed for individual accountability to specific people, but we have found it works quite well for an organization. You can do accountability only. It doesn't block anything, just reports on everywhere the user goes, and then actual filtering. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Web Filter mobile users Good morning! Currently we use an iPrism device and set IE to proxy to the iPrism for mobile users. This works well when they are at home or free wifi. However, in many instances the users are at hotels that require you to log in to their local web page first. The IE proxy does not allow this. The solution is to add exceptions to the IE Proxy list, however, this would be nearly impossible due to the large number of places our employees stay. We have considered requiring VPN for all mobile users, but I am afraid this might cause a bottle neck in our bandwidth. I am looking into alternatives for mobile user web filtering. I would welcome input from the group. BF ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Outlook 2007 issue
Nope. Didn't think about that. Only went with the suggestion from the Microsoft KB article. I'll give that a shot. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 issue Possible a corrupt forms cache ? have you tried deleting the cache files from the user's application data/Microsoft/Outlook folder (frmcache.dat file) ( or is it in a FORMS subfolder for 2007 ???) Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2007 issue I have one user who's Outlook keeps coming up with an error about cannot open Outlook Window. I researched it last time it happened and found the solution is to start outlook with the cleannavpane switch. Apparently something is corrupting the Outlook nav window. Any idea what's going on? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Outlook 2007 issue
Well, I'll give that a shot. I renamed it to frmcache.tad in case it causes an issue. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook 2007 issue Possible a corrupt forms cache ? have you tried deleting the cache files from the user's application data/Microsoft/Outlook folder (frmcache.dat file) ( or is it in a FORMS subfolder for 2007 ???) Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Outlook 2007 issue I have one user who's Outlook keeps coming up with an error about cannot open Outlook Window. I researched it last time it happened and found the solution is to start outlook with the cleannavpane switch. Apparently something is corrupting the Outlook nav window. Any idea what's going on? John-AldrichTile-Tools ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Web Filter mobile users
Or you can try Microsoft's web filtering software, its free and works well. It's called Family Safety http://download.live.com/FamilySafety. From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Web Filter mobile users We use a program called covenanteyes.com They support this and it works very well. To uninstall you need an admin code, all admins can get reports on individual users. Its mostly designed for individual accountability to specific people, but we have found it works quite well for an organization. You can do accountability only. It doesn't block anything, just reports on everywhere the user goes, and then actual filtering. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Web Filter mobile users Good morning! Currently we use an iPrism device and set IE to proxy to the iPrism for mobile users. This works well when they are at home or free wifi. However, in many instances the users are at hotels that require you to log in to their local web page first. The IE proxy does not allow this. The solution is to add exceptions to the IE Proxy list, however, this would be nearly impossible due to the large number of places our employees stay. We have considered requiring VPN for all mobile users, but I am afraid this might cause a bottle neck in our bandwidth. I am looking into alternatives for mobile user web filtering. I would welcome input from the group. BF ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: How does one test the Vipre premium enterprise firewall and web filter? Safe way.
(answered off-list) From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: How does one test the Vipre premium enterprise firewall and web filter? Safe way. How does one test the vipre permium enteprise firewall and web fliter? Safe way. ??? Thanks -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: FW: Encrypted files.
S/MIME is one method. It's kind of a PITA, having to do a certificate exchange, and then sometimes Outlook just doesn't want to cooperate. How about a password protected 7-zip archive with AES-256 encryption? The price is right. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: FW: Encrypted files. Via email .. S/MIME is the easiest for users to understand and certificates are cheap. No admin needed at all. Weakness is that it's only encrypted as far as the mailbox, so the user would be prone to saving it unencrypted to a file share (may not be an issue at all). Weaker than that, and a good complimentary measure, is TLS between mail servers to ensure confidentiality of transmission, even when they forget to encrypt the file. Aside from that, HTTPS portals are good. We'd do a basic security evaluation of the portal in question and potentially allow access to that. Or host it the other way around from our own portal. With PGP and self-decrypting archives (the SDA .exe bother ..!) we don't find it an easy solution. PGP confuses basic users at the best of times and having to unzip (as .exe is blocked by most gateways and also by nearly all email clients), then unencrypt a file really does their heads in! With keys, it's much better, but you still have an initial learning curve. alan From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: 12 May 2010 10:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Fwd: FW: Encrypted files. I received the email below from a public sector entity we work with, who are maintaining that for security reasons they now send out certain documents as encrypted .exe files, which they expect our users to unpack themselves. Notwithstanding that a) the IronPort isn't particularly keen on letting executable attachments through, b) our Application Management solution won't execute anything that isn't owned by Administrators, and c) our whitelist GPO won't execute anything that doesn't match one of its hash rules, this sort of approach seems a little, well, archaic to me. The best bit is, they are sending the password for the encrypted executable to our users via a plain-text, unencrypted email, so the security is more or less worthless anyway. My question is, how do other people handle transmission of encrypted data to users who work in a locked-down environment? We use the IronPort's built-in encryption features to handle our user's requirements to send sensitive data, but I'm looking for something to work the other way. I can only assume there are far better ways than sending out executable files via email, so I am looking for some real-world solutions. I *could* ratchet down our end-user security to allow these through, but I'd sooner propose something else that allows me to keep it in place. TIA, JRR -- Forwarded message -- From: James Rankin james.ran...@4hg.co.ukmailto:james.ran...@4hg.co.uk Date: 12 May 2010 10:49 Subject: FW: Encrypted files. To: kz2...@gmail.commailto:kz2...@gmail.com kz2...@gmail.commailto:kz2...@gmail.com I understand from xxx that there has been a request from xxx that the landlord schedules are not sent as .exe files, unfortunately we are unable to send any information out externally relating to unless it has been encrypted. This is xxx policy I'm afraid, we did used to zip the files and password protect them but this has been deemed not secure enough. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause to yourselves when you receive the file but as stated previously the current way we send the files is now standard xx practice. Thanks. WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: FW: Encrypted files.
All suggestions are giving me a good array of options...unfortunately I am dealing with the much-maligned UK public sector here. They don't even seem inclined to answer my emails asking what sort of email system they are running. Their attitude usually is our policy says we do things this way, either accept it, or tough. Even when the policy itself is completely self-defeating. I'm keen to offer them some of these options, but if they don't want to talk to me, I'm kind of stumped. TLS (if possible) or some other form of archive protection seems the best idea to me, I think. On 12 May 2010 15:00, Phillip Partipilo p...@psnet.com wrote: S/MIME is one method. It’s kind of a PITA, having to do a certificate exchange, and then sometimes Outlook just doesn’t want to cooperate. How about a password protected 7-zip archive with AES-256 encryption? The price is right. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 *From:* Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:09 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: FW: Encrypted files. Via email .. S/MIME is the easiest for users to understand and certificates are cheap. No admin needed at all. Weakness is that it's only encrypted as far as the mailbox, so the user would be prone to saving it unencrypted to a file share (may not be an issue at all). Weaker than that, and a good complimentary measure, is TLS between mail servers to ensure confidentiality of transmission, even when they forget to encrypt the file. Aside from that, HTTPS portals are good. We'd do a basic security evaluation of the portal in question and potentially allow access to that. Or host it the other way around from our own portal. With PGP and self-decrypting archives (the SDA .exe bother ..!) we don't find it an easy solution. PGP confuses basic users at the best of times and having to unzip (as .exe is blocked by most gateways and also by nearly all email clients), then unencrypt a file really does their heads in! With keys, it's much better, but you still have an initial learning curve. alan -- *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] *Sent:* 12 May 2010 10:57 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Fwd: FW: Encrypted files. I received the email below from a public sector entity we work with, who are maintaining that for security reasons they now send out certain documents as encrypted .exe files, which they expect our users to unpack themselves. Notwithstanding that a) the IronPort isn't particularly keen on letting executable attachments through, b) our Application Management solution won't execute anything that isn't owned by Administrators, and c) our whitelist GPO won't execute anything that doesn't match one of its hash rules, this sort of approach seems a little, well, archaic to me. The best bit is, they are sending the password for the encrypted executable to our users via a plain-text, unencrypted email, so the security is more or less worthless anyway. My question is, how do other people handle transmission of encrypted data to users who work in a locked-down environment? We use the IronPort's built-in encryption features to handle our user's requirements to *send *sensitive data, but I'm looking for something to work the other way. I can only assume there are far better ways than sending out executable files via email, so I am looking for some real-world solutions. I *could* ratchet down our end-user security to allow these through, but I'd sooner propose something else that allows me to keep it in place. TIA, JRR -- Forwarded message -- From: *James Rankin* james.ran...@4hg.co.uk Date: 12 May 2010 10:49 Subject: FW: Encrypted files. To: kz2...@gmail.com kz2...@gmail.com I understand from xxx that there has been a request from xxx that the landlord schedules are not sent as .exe files, unfortunately we are unable to send any information out externally relating to unless it has been encrypted. This is xxx policy I'm afraid, we did used to zip the files and password protect them but this has been deemed not secure enough. Apologies for any inconvenience this may cause to yourselves when you receive the file but as stated previously the current way we send the files is now standard xx practice. Thanks. WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender
Re: Stupid licensing question - Win7
Not all of them, I think, as some have been installed already. For the rest, I will have to check with the vendor. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:47, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the appropriate license for those systems... Can you return them? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Our company has ordered a bunch of OEM/System Builder license Win7 packages - they didn't use the open license agreements we have with our two normal vendors. Since this seems to need clarification: You have a bunch of existing PCs running an older version of Windows. Someone ordered a big pile of Win7 OEM licenses. That was wrong; they should have ordered volume licenses. You'd like to convert the OEM licenses into something that will give you license compliance for those PCs. Do I have that right? -- Ben Correct for the most part - we did order new PCs for the engineers, and they came with no OS, but these machines are for internal use only. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Web based survey software?
Another one to check out, though our web developer might not like PHP. Looks more capable than the first one, though. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 23:44, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: Check out LimeSurvey. PHP based, uses your choice of SQL backends. Open source. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District On May 11, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: For anyone else, since Kurt stated that SQL was desirable... If you're looking to host a survey application yourself and the need for an external DB engine is not required/desired, SurveyGold may be the ticket. We've used it before and been pleased. The one time we did have some issues, we emailed support, and the developer was very responsive to our emails. We liked it enough that we ended up buying the upgrade a while back and used it. Since then, however, most of what we have done has been on SurveyMonkey. http://www.surveygold.com/ I'm not sure whether it runs on Server 03 or 08, as we ran it from an XP workstation, but since it states that it will run on Win7, I don't know why it wouldn't run on Server 08. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Web based survey software? That's not an issue. I actually consider that a feature for our purposes. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 14:37, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Oh yeah...requires SQL, though - so additional cost if you don't have it up already. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Web based survey software? Awesome. Thank you sir. Kurt On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 14:16, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: $70 http://www.xigla.com/absolutepm/index.htm -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Web based survey software? I'm familiar with surveymonkey, which is really nice, but I'm looking for something to run in IIS for our intranet - it doesn't have to be quite as featureful as surveymonkey. Free (as in OSS) is my favorite price, but if it doesn't cost too much we'd consider buying. My searches so far haven't been very successful. Anybody know of something like this? We're running Win2k3 at the moment. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaad Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Coming in late on this thread, and I've probably missed a lot due to my nanny software... -- RMc Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote on 05/12/2010 09:32:00 AM: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.com wrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa?d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Stupid licensing question - Win7
Well, you could always threaten to report them if they balk at the return, either in full or of only the unopened ones. The vendor is doing something not so legit. Microsoft does like to crackdown on grey market companies when it can. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Not all of them, I think, as some have been installed already. For the rest, I will have to check with the vendor. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:47, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the appropriate license for those systems... Can you return them? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Our company has ordered a bunch of OEM/System Builder license Win7 packages - they didn't use the open license agreements we have with our two normal vendors. Since this seems to need clarification: You have a bunch of existing PCs running an older version of Windows. Someone ordered a big pile of Win7 OEM licenses. That was wrong; they should have ordered volume licenses. You'd like to convert the OEM licenses into something that will give you license compliance for those PCs. Do I have that right? -- Ben Correct for the most part - we did order new PCs for the engineers, and they came with no OS, but these machines are for internal use only. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
No, a bock's a bock, you ninny. :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Nope. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_a_goat_associated_with_bock_beer Now I fear we must all stop being capricious or Stu will Pan the whole thread. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_a_goat_associated_with_bock_beer On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
By the way, this thread is a paradox, because the more puns about goats are made, the less boer-ing it gets. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool No, a bock's a bock, you ninny. :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Why are you trying to ram your opinion down our throats? On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: By the way, this thread is a paradox, because the more puns about goats are made, the less boer-ing it gets. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool No, a bock's a bock, you ninny. :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Wrong species. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Why are you trying to ram your opinion down our throats? On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: By the way, this thread is a paradox, because the more puns about goats are made, the less boer-ing it gets. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool No, a bock's a bock, you ninny. :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
I bet Richard feels pretty sheepish now... From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Wrong species. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Why are you trying to ram your opinion down our throats? On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: By the way, this thread is a paradox, because the more puns about goats are made, the less boer-ing it gets. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool No, a bock's a bock, you ninny. :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa'd Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Drat! No pulling the wool over the eyes on this list. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: I bet Richard feels pretty sheepish now… *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:05 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Wrong species. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Why are you trying to ram your opinion down our throats? On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: By the way, this thread is a paradox, because the more puns about goats are made, the less boer-ing it gets. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool No, a bock's a bock, you ninny. :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa’d Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
GPO and script question
I need a bit of a refresher on this. I have a script I need to run for my PCs. It removes an old agent, if present, then installs an updated agent. Is it possible to run this as a workstation script, since the script calls a remote UNC path for the updated install? I thought since it is running as a workstation script (called via startup GPO setting), it can't see the network yet. Or am I incorrect? I can run this under the user policy section, which would be preferred so I could provide a message box or two. However users are not administrators. Also the script takes a bit of time to run (it removes Configuration Manager client, which for those of you using CM know that takes a while.). Doesn't use much CPU or memory, so again this might be better to run as a user startup GPO setting? Suggestions and comments appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: GPO and script question
Assign it to the machine and you should be good to go, I install/uninstall items that way all the time. Do the workstations have perms to the share? From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GPO and script question I need a bit of a refresher on this. I have a script I need to run for my PCs. It removes an old agent, if present, then installs an updated agent. Is it possible to run this as a workstation script, since the script calls a remote UNC path for the updated install? I thought since it is running as a workstation script (called via startup GPO setting), it can't see the network yet. Or am I incorrect? I can run this under the user policy section, which would be preferred so I could provide a message box or two. However users are not administrators. Also the script takes a bit of time to run (it removes Configuration Manager client, which for those of you using CM know that takes a while.). Doesn't use much CPU or memory, so again this might be better to run as a user startup GPO setting? Suggestions and comments appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: GPO and script question
I have plenty of UNC-based startup scripts running in my environment. They seem to work without issue. Most are machine rather than user-based however On 12 May 2010 16:35, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: I need a bit of a refresher on this. I have a script I need to run for my PCs. It removes an old agent, if present, then installs an updated agent. Is it possible to run this as a workstation script, since the script calls a remote UNC path for the updated install? I thought since it is running as a workstation script (called via startup GPO setting), it can't see the network yet. Or am I incorrect? I can run this under the user policy section, which would be preferred so I could provide a message box or two. However users are not administrators. Also the script takes a bit of time to run (it removes Configuration Manager client, which for those of you using CM know that takes a while.). Doesn't use much CPU or memory, so again this might be better to run as a user startup GPO setting? Suggestions and comments appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
When did this discussion start getting sheepish? From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Why are you trying to ram your opinion down our throats? On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: By the way, this thread is a paradox, because the more puns about goats are made, the less boer-ing it gets. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool No, a bock's a bock, you ninny. :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Don't you mean go bck to what you were doing? Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 7:34 AM Nothing to see here, go bock to what you were doing. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: You guys have to be kidding me. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, David W. McSpadden dav...@imcu.comwrote: b -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool Yes, that would make me very angora-y. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 05:17, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In other news, chevre-elry is dead after all. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8428650.stm On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Groan, that was baaa'd Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: GPO and script question
The issue with startup scripts is that they don't have drive-mappings. Network access is just fine. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GPO and script question I have plenty of UNC-based startup scripts running in my environment. They seem to work without issue. Most are machine rather than user-based however On 12 May 2010 16:35, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: I need a bit of a refresher on this. I have a script I need to run for my PCs. It removes an old agent, if present, then installs an updated agent. Is it possible to run this as a workstation script, since the script calls a remote UNC path for the updated install? I thought since it is running as a workstation script (called via startup GPO setting), it can't see the network yet. Or am I incorrect? I can run this under the user policy section, which would be preferred so I could provide a message box or two. However users are not administrators. Also the script takes a bit of time to run (it removes Configuration Manager client, which for those of you using CM know that takes a while.). Doesn't use much CPU or memory, so again this might be better to run as a user startup GPO setting? Suggestions and comments appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: GPO and script question
Should be OK. Make sure there are no ACLs on the share/directory that would prevent the computer account from reading it. Bill Mayo From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GPO and script question I need a bit of a refresher on this. I have a script I need to run for my PCs. It removes an old agent, if present, then installs an updated agent. Is it possible to run this as a workstation script, since the script calls a remote UNC path for the updated install? I thought since it is running as a workstation script (called via startup GPO setting), it can't see the network yet. Or am I incorrect? I can run this under the user policy section, which would be preferred so I could provide a message box or two. However users are not administrators. Also the script takes a bit of time to run (it removes Configuration Manager client, which for those of you using CM know that takes a while.). Doesn't use much CPU or memory, so again this might be better to run as a user startup GPO setting? Suggestions and comments appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Wed. Funny
I just got my final grade for BCIS1405 (Business Computer Applications) and surprise I made an A.ROFLOL. Happy Wed to everyone! -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Wed. Funny
Would you expect anything less? J From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Wed. Funny I just got my final grade for BCIS1405 (Business Computer Applications) and surprise I made an A.ROFLOL. Happy Wed to everyone! -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Wed. Funny
Congrats! It's hard to be smart!! Bill Lambert Concuity Phone 847-941-9206 The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Wed. Funny I just got my final grade for BCIS1405 (Business Computer Applications) and surprise I made an A.ROFLOL. Happy Wed to everyone! -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: GPO and script question
That was it, thanks Michael, I couldn't remember about the network access. Thanks for the responses, all. I didn't realize my test PC wasn't in the OU to which I assigned the script. Duh! Tom Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com 5/12/2010 11:42 AM The issue with startup scripts is that they don’t have drive-mappings. Network access is just fine. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GPO and script question I have plenty of UNC-based startup scripts running in my environment. They seem to work without issue. Most are machine rather than user-based however On 12 May 2010 16:35, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: I need a bit of a refresher on this. I have a script I need to run for my PCs. It removes an old agent, if present, then installs an updated agent. Is it possible to run this as a workstation script, since the script calls a remote UNC path for the updated install? I thought since it is running as a workstation script (called via startup GPO setting), it can't see the network yet. Or am I incorrect? I can run this under the user policy section, which would be preferred so I could provide a message box or two. However users are not administrators. Also the script takes a bit of time to run (it removes Configuration Manager client, which for those of you using CM know that takes a while.). Doesn't use much CPU or memory, so again this might be better to run as a user startup GPO setting? Suggestions and comments appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: GPO and script question
I've done something similar this morning, a GPO to upgrade Adobe Reader from 7 to 9.3.2. The install files are in a folder in the NETLOGON share, not best practice, but that's the way it is here. I've configured it as a shutdown script with no problem under the Computer section. There is a logon script configured under the User section to import a reg file to change the PDF configuration for an application we use, IBM Content Manager. If it's something that takes a while, I always prefer to run it on shutdown, that way users don't complain about long start-up times. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From: Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 12/05/2010 16:36 Subject: GPO and script question I need a bit of a refresher on this. I have a script I need to run for my PCs. It removes an old agent, if present, then installs an updated agent. Is it possible to run this as a workstation script, since the script calls a remote UNC path for the updated install? I thought since it is running as a workstation script (called via startup GPO setting), it can't see the network yet. Or am I incorrect? I can run this under the user policy section, which would be preferred so I could provide a message box or two. However users are not administrators. Also the script takes a bit of time to run (it removes Configuration Manager client, which for those of you using CM know that takes a while.). Doesn't use much CPU or memory, so again this might be better to run as a user startup GPO setting? Suggestions and comments appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration), unless otherwise specifically stated . As internet communications are not secure, QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is not responsible for the contents of this message nor responsible for any change made to this message after it was sent by the original sender. Although virus scanning is used on all inbound and outbound e-mail, we advise you to carry out your own virus check before opening any attachment. We cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is regulated by the Financial Regulator and regulated by the Financial Services Authority for the conduct of UK business. QUINN-Insurance Limited (Under Administration) is registered in Ireland, registration number 240768 and is a private company limited by shares. Its head office is at Dublin Road, Cavan, Co. Cavan. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Wireless Routers
+1 on the Netgear refurbs. I have installed about a dozen of them over the last year. Only had trouble with one of them and then only in one location. Another unit worked fine there and that unit was OK in another location - go figure. I, too, have heard the horror stories about Netgear, Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo and others. My guess is that at this price point you can get junk in any flavor and good stuff in any flavor. Probably depending on the day of manufacture - hung over employees, etc. Recently, I've been getting the refurbished Netgear units for $10 to $15 on special and I don't worry about warranty or anything else - they are so cheap, I'll just replace it for a year on my dime - much quicker, easier, cheaper than convincing them to do something else. Len Hammond CSI:Hartland lenhamm...@gmail.com On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.comwrote: Buy factory refurbs. They've already been fixed.. J Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be happier. This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS. Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed by firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash. Carl *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Wireless Routers I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers. It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be replaced. I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because I'm more familiar with it. But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset doesn't allow you to connect. Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over 2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different router that **will** work and get another Linksys. Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new wireless router. J ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Wireless Routers
What's a good source for refurbed routers? John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Wireless Routers +1 on the Netgear refurbs. I have installed about a dozen of them over the last year. Only had trouble with one of them and then only in one location. Another unit worked fine there and that unit was OK in another location - go figure. I, too, have heard the horror stories about Netgear, Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo and others. My guess is that at this price point you can get junk in any flavor and good stuff in any flavor. Probably depending on the day of manufacture - hung over employees, etc. Recently, I've been getting the refurbished Netgear units for $10 to $15 on special and I don't worry about warranty or anything else - they are so cheap, I'll just replace it for a year on my dime - much quicker, easier, cheaper than convincing them to do something else. Len Hammond CSI:Hartland lenhamm...@gmail.com On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Buy factory refurbs. They've already been fixed.. J Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be happier. This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS. Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed by firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash. Carl From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Wireless Routers I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers. It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be replaced. I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because I'm more familiar with it. But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset doesn't allow you to connect. Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over 2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys. Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless router. J ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Wed. Funny
Woohooo - but what else would you expect ;) From: Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 10:54:19 AM Subject: Wed. Funny I just got my final grade for BCIS1405 (Business Computer Applications) and surprise I made an A. ROFLOL. Happy Wed to everyone! -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
[ LIST ADMIN MESSGE ]RE: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool
Let's get back to what we were all doing? Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Co-Founder, Publisher, Sunbelt Media P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tues Funny: New IP Lookup Tool http://ipgoat.com/ [Click the goat] Sorry. ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Wed. Funny
Take it to G.D. Ritzy's and get a free ice cream cone! From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Wed. Funny I just got my final grade for BCIS1405 (Business Computer Applications) and surprise I made an A.ROFLOL. Happy Wed to everyone! -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Web based survey software?
This looks like a good lead to follow for us as well. Thanks, James - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Web based survey software? Another one to check out, though our web developer might not like PHP. Looks more capable than the first one, though. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 23:44, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: Check out LimeSurvey. PHP based, uses your choice of SQL backends. Open source. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District On May 11, 2010, at 10:08 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle jra...@eaglemds.com wrote: For anyone else, since Kurt stated that SQL was desirable... If you're looking to host a survey application yourself and the need for an external DB engine is not required/desired, SurveyGold may be the ticket. We've used it before and been pleased. The one time we did have some issues, we emailed support, and the developer was very responsive to our emails. We liked it enough that we ended up buying the upgrade a while back and used it. Since then, however, most of what we have done has been on SurveyMonkey. http://www.surveygold.com/ I'm not sure whether it runs on Server 03 or 08, as we ran it from an XP workstation, but since it states that it will run on Win7, I don't know why it wouldn't run on Server 08. Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 7:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Web based survey software? That's not an issue. I actually consider that a feature for our purposes. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 14:37, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Oh yeah...requires SQL, though - so additional cost if you don't have it up already. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Web based survey software? Awesome. Thank you sir. Kurt On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 14:16, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: $70 http://www.xigla.com/absolutepm/index.htm -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Web based survey software? I'm familiar with surveymonkey, which is really nice, but I'm looking for something to run in IIS for our intranet - it doesn't have to be quite as featureful as surveymonkey. Free (as in OSS) is my favorite price, but if it doesn't cost too much we'd consider buying. My searches so far haven't been very successful. Anybody know of something like this? We're running Win2k3 at the moment. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Wireless Routers
Newegg.com has a bunch of recertified routers listed right now, including several Linksys. Carl From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Wireless Routers What's a good source for refurbed routers? John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Wireless Routers +1 on the Netgear refurbs. I have installed about a dozen of them over the last year. Only had trouble with one of them and then only in one location. Another unit worked fine there and that unit was OK in another location - go figure. I, too, have heard the horror stories about Netgear, Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo and others. My guess is that at this price point you can get junk in any flavor and good stuff in any flavor. Probably depending on the day of manufacture - hung over employees, etc. Recently, I've been getting the refurbished Netgear units for $10 to $15 on special and I don't worry about warranty or anything else - they are so cheap, I'll just replace it for a year on my dime - much quicker, easier, cheaper than convincing them to do something else. Len Hammond CSI:Hartland lenhamm...@gmail.com On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Buy factory refurbs. They've already been fixed.. J Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be happier. This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS. Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed by firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash. Carl From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Wireless Routers I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers. It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be replaced. I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because I'm more familiar with it. But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset doesn't allow you to connect. Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client's site (side job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over 2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. Long story short - if I ever have a job where I can't get the wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I'm not even going to spend time on it, I'll just tell the client I'm going to go buy a different router that *will* work and get another Linksys. Just thought I'd pass this along for anyone who's looking for a new wireless router. J ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Stupid licensing question - Win7
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Correct for the most part - we did order new PCs for the engineers, and they came with no OS ... Even worse. If they have no existing license, then you have to buy FPP (Full Packaged Product, i.e., retail boxes). Microsoft's volume licenses for client OSes are upgrade only. I think you're hosed. :-( -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Stupid licensing question - Win7
It came from one of two *major* online vendors - I don't know how legit it was or wasn't for them to sell to us, but I doubt we could do anything to pressure them. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 07:36, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could always threaten to report them if they balk at the return, either in full or of only the unopened ones. The vendor is doing something not so legit. Microsoft does like to crackdown on grey market companies when it can. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Not all of them, I think, as some have been installed already. For the rest, I will have to check with the vendor. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:47, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the appropriate license for those systems... Can you return them? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Our company has ordered a bunch of OEM/System Builder license Win7 packages - they didn't use the open license agreements we have with our two normal vendors. Since this seems to need clarification: You have a bunch of existing PCs running an older version of Windows. Someone ordered a big pile of Win7 OEM licenses. That was wrong; they should have ordered volume licenses. You'd like to convert the OEM licenses into something that will give you license compliance for those PCs. Do I have that right? -- Ben Correct for the most part - we did order new PCs for the engineers, and they came with no OS, but these machines are for internal use only. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: FW: Encrypted files.
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:57 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I received the email below from a public sector entity we work with, who are maintaining that for security reasons they now send out certain documents as encrypted .exe files ... Ah, that crap. When possible, I've requested the sender encrypt without including the executable self-decrypt package. It's often PGP or WinZip or something, and we have all the software we need to decrypt those. If we can't get cooperation, IT uses an isolated VM to run the executable and extract the files. The VM is reverted immediately after. Cumbersome, but in this day and age, we're not going to run random executables received via email. ... sending the password for the encrypted executable to our users via a plain-text, unencrypted email ... We get that all the time. Often in the same message. Talk about unclear on the concept. I'm pretty sure this is driven by people issuing requirements like thou shalt use encryption without actually knowing or caring about what's involved. Because, of course, all you have to do to make something secure is sprinkle a little encryption on it. This message was encrypted with double-ROT13, so it's secure. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Stupid licensing question - Win7
Did the purchase go through the proper people? I can't imagine how a *major* vendor would think it was ok to sell that type of license to put on a new box, that's going to be used for internal use. Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 10:01 AM It came from one of two *major* online vendors - I don't know how legit it was or wasn't for them to sell to us, but I doubt we could do anything to pressure them. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 07:36, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could always threaten to report them if they balk at the return, either in full or of only the unopened ones. The vendor is doing something not so legit. Microsoft does like to crackdown on grey market companies when it can. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Not all of them, I think, as some have been installed already. For the rest, I will have to check with the vendor. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:47, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the appropriate license for those systems... Can you return them? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Our company has ordered a bunch of OEM/System Builder license Win7 packages - they didn't use the open license agreements we have with our two normal vendors. Since this seems to need clarification: You have a bunch of existing PCs running an older version of Windows. Someone ordered a big pile of Win7 OEM licenses. That was wrong; they should have ordered volume licenses. You'd like to convert the OEM licenses into something that will give you license compliance for those PCs. Do I have that right? -- Ben Correct for the most part - we did order new PCs for the engineers, and they came with no OS, but these machines are for internal use only. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: FW: Encrypted files.
You realize that double-ROT13 is out of date, right? You need to upgrade your encryption, sir. Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 10:04 AM On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:57 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I received the email below from a public sector entity we work with, who are maintaining that for security reasons they now send out certain documents as encrypted .exe files ... Ah, that crap. When possible, I've requested the sender encrypt without including the executable self-decrypt package. It's often PGP or WinZip or something, and we have all the software we need to decrypt those. If we can't get cooperation, IT uses an isolated VM to run the executable and extract the files. The VM is reverted immediately after. Cumbersome, but in this day and age, we're not going to run random executables received via email. ... sending the password for the encrypted executable to our users via a plain-text, unencrypted email ... We get that all the time. Often in the same message. Talk about unclear on the concept. I'm pretty sure this is driven by people issuing requirements like thou shalt use encryption without actually knowing or caring about what's involved. Because, of course, all you have to do to make something secure is sprinkle a little encryption on it. This message was encrypted with double-ROT13, so it's secure. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: FW: Encrypted files.
Oh, darn! Double-ROT13. I'll *never* be able to read it now! :P -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 1:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FW: Encrypted files. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:57 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: I received the email below from a public sector entity we work with, who are maintaining that for security reasons they now send out certain documents as encrypted .exe files ... Ah, that crap. When possible, I've requested the sender encrypt without including the executable self-decrypt package. It's often PGP or WinZip or something, and we have all the software we need to decrypt those. If we can't get cooperation, IT uses an isolated VM to run the executable and extract the files. The VM is reverted immediately after. Cumbersome, but in this day and age, we're not going to run random executables received via email. ... sending the password for the encrypted executable to our users via a plain-text, unencrypted email ... We get that all the time. Often in the same message. Talk about unclear on the concept. I'm pretty sure this is driven by people issuing requirements like thou shalt use encryption without actually knowing or caring about what's involved. Because, of course, all you have to do to make something secure is sprinkle a little encryption on it. This message was encrypted with double-ROT13, so it's secure. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: FW: Encrypted files.
+1 Quadruple-ROT13 is the norm these days. Get with the program, people! On 5/12/2010 12:21 PM, Joseph Heaton wrote: You realize that double-ROT13 is out of date, right? You need to upgrade your encryption, sir. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Stupid licensing question - Win7
No, they may not. Might want to pass it on to Microsoft after you correct the licensing issue. I'm sure they're interested, and who knows they may assist you in the process of correcting your licensing? On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: It went through our purchasing department. I think either they, or the minion of mine who filled out the Purchase Request that was forwarded to them, weren't paying close attention to what was actually being ordered, and the online retailer didn't care. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:20, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Did the purchase go through the proper people? I can't imagine how a *major* vendor would think it was ok to sell that type of license to put on a new box, that's going to be used for internal use. Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 10:01 AM It came from one of two *major* online vendors - I don't know how legit it was or wasn't for them to sell to us, but I doubt we could do anything to pressure them. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 07:36, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could always threaten to report them if they balk at the return, either in full or of only the unopened ones. The vendor is doing something not so legit. Microsoft does like to crackdown on grey market companies when it can. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Not all of them, I think, as some have been installed already. For the rest, I will have to check with the vendor. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:47, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the appropriate license for those systems... Can you return them? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Our company has ordered a bunch of OEM/System Builder license Win7 packages - they didn't use the open license agreements we have with our two normal vendors. Since this seems to need clarification: You have a bunch of existing PCs running an older version of Windows. Someone ordered a big pile of Win7 OEM licenses. That was wrong; they should have ordered volume licenses. You'd like to convert the OEM licenses into something that will give you license compliance for those PCs. Do I have that right? -- Ben Correct for the most part - we did order new PCs for the engineers, and they came with no OS, but these machines are for internal use only. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Stupid licensing question - Win7
Possible. I'm trying to get our COO/VP Finance to agree that an Enterprise agreement would be a good thing. This will become one more support for that argument, I think. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 11:39, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: No, they may not. Might want to pass it on to Microsoft after you correct the licensing issue. I'm sure they're interested, and who knows they may assist you in the process of correcting your licensing? On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: It went through our purchasing department. I think either they, or the minion of mine who filled out the Purchase Request that was forwarded to them, weren't paying close attention to what was actually being ordered, and the online retailer didn't care. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:20, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Did the purchase go through the proper people? I can't imagine how a *major* vendor would think it was ok to sell that type of license to put on a new box, that's going to be used for internal use. Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 10:01 AM It came from one of two *major* online vendors - I don't know how legit it was or wasn't for them to sell to us, but I doubt we could do anything to pressure them. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 07:36, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you could always threaten to report them if they balk at the return, either in full or of only the unopened ones. The vendor is doing something not so legit. Microsoft does like to crackdown on grey market companies when it can. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Not all of them, I think, as some have been installed already. For the rest, I will have to check with the vendor. Kurt On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 04:47, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: That's not the appropriate license for those systems... Can you return them? -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:03, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Our company has ordered a bunch of OEM/System Builder license Win7 packages - they didn't use the open license agreements we have with our two normal vendors. Since this seems to need clarification: You have a bunch of existing PCs running an older version of Windows. Someone ordered a big pile of Win7 OEM licenses. That was wrong; they should have ordered volume licenses. You'd like to convert the OEM licenses into something that will give you license compliance for those PCs. Do I have that right? -- Ben Correct for the most part - we did order new PCs for the engineers, and they came with no OS, but these machines are for internal use only. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Wireless Routers
Been getting mine at Tiger Len Hammond CSI:Hartland, LLC l...@csihartland.com On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.comwrote: Newegg.com has a bunch of recertified routers listed right now, including several Linksys. Carl *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:16 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Wireless Routers What’s a good source for refurbed routers? [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Len Hammond [mailto:lenhammo...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 12:11 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Wireless Routers +1 on the Netgear refurbs. I have installed about a dozen of them over the last year. Only had trouble with one of them and then only in one location. Another unit worked fine there and that unit was OK in another location - go figure. I, too, have heard the horror stories about Netgear, Linksys, D-Link, Buffalo and others. My guess is that at this price point you can get junk in any flavor and good stuff in any flavor. Probably depending on the day of manufacture - hung over employees, etc. Recently, I've been getting the refurbished Netgear units for $10 to $15 on special and I don't worry about warranty or anything else - they are so cheap, I'll just replace it for a year on my dime - much quicker, easier, cheaper than convincing them to do something else. Len Hammond CSI:Hartland lenhamm...@gmail.com On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Buy factory refurbs. They've already been fixed.. J Seriously, I'm running DD-WRT on several Netgear refurbs, couldn't be happier. This particular model of Netgear had a history of PS problems but the refurbs came with the 'fixed' PS. Regarding troubleshooting, a factory reset (using the pushbutton) followed by firmware upgrade should be attempted before tossing them in the trash. Carl *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 12:01 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Wireless Routers I've had issues with Netgear, D-Link, and Linksys/Cisco consumer routers. It seems most are only good for about 18-24 months and then need to be replaced. I do like the Linksys GUI best but that's probably just because I'm more familiar with it. But for $50, it's not worth the time to mess with them if a simple reset doesn't allow you to connect. Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: This weekend, I spent about 4 hours working at a client’s site (side job) trying to get their desktop to link up to their existing wireless router (Netgear.) I never succeeded and I was also unable to get my Dell laptop to talk to their wireless router. After fussing with it for over 2 hours, I went to Walmart and bought a WRT54GS2 Linksys wireless (same exact model I have at home) and hooked it up. Instant success. Long story short – if I ever have a job where I can’t get the wireless to connect, and the user has a Netgear wireless router, I’m not even going to spend time on it, I’ll just tell the client I’m going to go buy a different router that **will** work and get another Linksys. Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who’s looking for a new wireless router. J ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Windows 7 con't
Good day all, Windows 7 (32bit) - two laptops, same make and model. Installing Vipre - one no problem, second...denied! I cannot map the admin shares on the laptop. I setup one machine (the one that works) and a coworker setup the other. I have been all through it and can't figure out what the heck is going on. I've been searching google for answers and can't find the answer. I'm sure it's something really simple. I have added the reg entry as some people have suggested and that didn't work. Any ideas? Cheers, Cameron who is REALLY starting to dislike Win 7 in a domain ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. Andy0 At 01:48 PM 5/11/2010, you wrote: Is there any way to go back to the $B!H(Jclassic$B!I(J login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I$B!G(Jm a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the $B!H(Jusual$B!I(J spot (control panel $B*(Jusers) but didn$B!G(Jt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-Aldrich Tile-Tools Andy-Ofalt---863-3449--405-Ag-Admin-Bldg--for more information go to http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html -- My little blurb to eat up bandwidth and make your mail box even larger +++ The real problem is that IP, a connectionless protocol, was never developed to be the universal protocol. ATM was developed to serve that purpose and failed. +++ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~inline: a423519.jpginline: a423529.jpg
RE: Windows 7 con't
Check the firewall? Seriously, I had that problem with the new Vista machine we have. I forgot to disable the firewall and it didn't want to install. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 con't Good day all, Windows 7 (32bit) - two laptops, same make and model. Installing Vipre - one no problem, second...denied! I cannot map the admin shares on the laptop. I setup one machine (the one that works) and a coworker setup the other. I have been all through it and can't figure out what the heck is going on. I've been searching google for answers and can't find the answer. I'm sure it's something really simple. I have added the reg entry as some people have suggested and that didn't work. Any ideas? Cheers, Cameron who is REALLY starting to dislike Win 7 in a domain ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Vista login screen
Hmm. maybe something to think about, but with this being a non-computer person, I've so far left UAC enabled. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. Andy0 At 01:48 PM 5/11/2010, you wrote: Is there any way to go back to the $B!H(Jclassic$B!I(J login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I$B!G(Jm a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the $B!H(Jusual$B!I(J spot (control panel $B*(Jusers) but didn$B!G(Jt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools Andy-Ofalt---863-3449--405-Ag-Admin-Bldg--for more information go to http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html%A0 http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html -- My little blurb to eat up bandwidth and make your mail box even larger +++ The real problem is that IP, a connectionless protocol, was never developed to be the universal protocol. ATM was developed to serve that purpose and failed. +++ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Vista login screen
Don't spend another second thinking about it. Disabling UAC does nothing of the sort. Carl From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vista login screen Hmm. maybe something to think about, but with this being a non-computer person, I've so far left UAC enabled. J John-AldrichTile-Tools From: andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. Andy0 At 01:48 PM 5/11/2010, you wrote: Is there any way to go back to the $B!H(Jclassic$B!I(J login screen on Vista like we had on XP, or are we stuck with the Vista login? First Vista computer in the company and I$B!G(Jm a bit unsure of how much I can change. I looked in the $B!H(Jusual$B!I(J spot (control panel $B*(Jusers) but didn$B!G(Jt see anything about changing the login screen, other than requiring users to hit ctl+alt+del. John-AldrichTile-Tools Andy-Ofalt---863-3449--405-Ag-Admin-Bldg--for more information go to http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html%A0 http://ict.cas.psu.edu/Contacts.html -- My little blurb to eat up bandwidth and make your mail box even larger +++ The real problem is that IP, a connectionless protocol, was never developed to be the universal protocol. ATM was developed to serve that purpose and failed. +++ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Vista login screen
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM, andy afo...@psu.edu wrote: I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. It never did in my testing. Neither did pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL repeatedly. Neither did enabling the Classic logon screen GPO option. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Vista login screen
Bummer. Oh, well... my user is getting used to Vista. She got used to XP after being on Win98 for the longest time. :-) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM, andy afo...@psu.edu wrote: I thought that i read somewhere that if you disable the UAC you can get the regular login screen. It never did in my testing. Neither did pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL repeatedly. Neither did enabling the Classic logon screen GPO option. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
citrix xenapp
Hi I'm trying to get Citrix Xenapp web set up, and cannot get it to work externally. Internally it works just fin but not through our firewall, (isa server 2006). I've been through their docs, and so far no joy. MS, Isaserver.org, Citrix all, I've done everything I can think of. Do any of you have Xenapp web and ISA working? if so how? Thanks in advance. ./s Google. Learn it. Live it. Love it. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: citrix xenapp
is the IP you're trying to hit a public IP? Or private internally, and NATed to a public for external access? That's the first thing that pops in my head S Powell powe...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 1:58 PM Hi I'm trying to get Citrix Xenapp web set up, and cannot get it to work externally. Internally it works just fin but not through our firewall, (isa server 2006). I've been through their docs, and so far no joy. MS, Isaserver.org, Citrix all, I've done everything I can think of. Do any of you have Xenapp web and ISA working? if so how? Thanks in advance. ./s Google. Learn it. Live it. Love it. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Vista login screen
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Bummer. Oh, well... my user is getting used to Vista. She got used to XP after being on Win98 for the longest time. :-) Heh. I sympathize, both with you and the user. Personally I think most of what's been done in Vista is change for the sake of change, and all it really does is increase costs. Yah, individually the costs are small, but times the millions of computer users, that's a lot. All so Microsoft can say Vista looks so shiny and new. But then, lots of people are impressed by shiny and new, so maybe it's a valid biz strategy. Vista has a lot of goofy bugs. Some examples: If you enable the GPO option to force the classic shell on, and then rename a file, Explorer will switch to point-to-select/single-click-to-open mode. When saving a log from Event Viewer, the breadcrumb bar gets filled with garbage characters and doesn't work. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Windows 7 con't
Another strange thing is that both machines do not show up in AD Computer list...but if you search for them it finds them... On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:35 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Check the firewall? Seriously, I had that problem with the new Vista machine we have. I forgot to disable the firewall and it didn’t want to install. [image: John-Aldrich][image: Tile-Tools] *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:24 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Windows 7 con't Good day all, Windows 7 (32bit) - two laptops, same make and model. Installing Vipre - one no problem, second...denied! I cannot map the admin shares on the laptop. I setup one machine (the one that works) and a coworker setup the other. I have been all through it and can't figure out what the heck is going on. I've been searching google for answers and can't find the answer. I'm sure it's something really simple. I have added the reg entry as some people have suggested and that didn't work. Any ideas? Cheers, Cameron who is REALLY starting to dislike Win 7 in a domain ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image002.jpgimage001.jpg
Re: Windows 7 con't
If you're not already, log into the troublesome laptop as local administrator. Sometimes in Vista, required admin level access problems are not accurately relay via the dialogue boxes you're seeing. From: Cameron Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 con't Another strange thing is that both machines do not show up in AD Computer list...but if you search for them it finds them... On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:35 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Check the firewall? Seriously, I had that problem with the new Vista machine we have. I forgot to disable the firewall and it didn’t want to install. From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 con't Good day all, Windows 7 (32bit) - two laptops, same make and model. Installing Vipre - one no problem, second...denied! I cannot map the admin shares on the laptop. I setup one machine (the one that works) and a coworker setup the other. I have been all through it and can't figure out what the heck is going on. I've been searching google for answers and can't find the answer. I'm sure it's something really simple. I have added the reg entry as some people have suggested and that didn't work. Any ideas? Cheers, Cameron who is REALLY starting to dislike Win 7 in a domain ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Vista login screen
That's not a bug. That's a feature to discourage you from holding on to the past (classic shell) :) -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 13 May 2010 7:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vista login screen If you enable the GPO option to force the classic shell on, and then rename a file, Explorer will switch to point-to-select/single-click-to-open mode. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: citrix xenapp
when I try the internal address, everything works fine. the issue is trying (from inside the network --which may be the issue) the public ipaddress. the web interface lets me login but when I try to launch an app Citrix just gets stuck on trying to connect I may have to try it from the outside world Google.com Learn it. Live it. Love it. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 14:00, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: is the IP you're trying to hit a public IP? Or private internally, and NATed to a public for external access? That's the first thing that pops in my head S Powell powe...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 1:58 PM Hi I'm trying to get Citrix Xenapp web set up, and cannot get it to work externally. Internally it works just fin but not through our firewall, (isa server 2006). I've been through their docs, and so far no joy. MS, Isaserver.org, Citrix all, I've done everything I can think of. Do any of you have Xenapp web and ISA working? if so how? Thanks in advance. ./s Google. Learn it. Live it. Love it. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: citrix xenapp
Something you may want to try is to put a switch on the outside of your firewall, so that you can plug in a PC, to be able to test as if you're coming in from the outside. I had this setup in my last job, and it was very helpful. S Powell powe...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 2:33 PM when I try the internal address, everything works fine. the issue is trying (from inside the network --which may be the issue) the public ipaddress. the web interface lets me login but when I try to launch an app Citrix just gets stuck on trying to connect I may have to try it from the outside world Google.com Learn it. Live it. Love it. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 14:00, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: is the IP you're trying to hit a public IP? Or private internally, and NATed to a public for external access? That's the first thing that pops in my head S Powell powe...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 1:58 PM Hi I'm trying to get Citrix Xenapp web set up, and cannot get it to work externally. Internally it works just fin but not through our firewall, (isa server 2006). I've been through their docs, and so far no joy. MS, Isaserver.org, Citrix all, I've done everything I can think of. Do any of you have Xenapp web and ISA working? if so how? Thanks in advance. ./s Google. Learn it. Live it. Love it. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Adding New 2003 DC, DNS, WINs, DHCP Server
Ben/Brian, Thanks for the responses. I'll be setting up WINs replication as recommended and moving forward from there. - Sean On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I came across some information that recommended the installation/configuration of WINs and DHCP services prior to promoting the machine to a domain controller. Can someone confirm that? For those, I don't think it really matters. I believe the general rule of thumb is to DCPROMO as early as possible, as some software behaves differently if it's installed on a DC, and that determination may be made at install time. But again, I don't think it matters for DHCP and WINS. Also, with specific regards to WINs: Would it be preferable to install WINs and set it up as a push/pull partner or simply migrate the WINs database from the old server to the new. I would go the route of WINS replication, for the reasons you cite. That's the way I've done it in the past, with good results. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: citrix xenapp
Another quick and easy way to test is (if you have one) to use a broadband air card. I use one to test public connections, as well as testing VPN connectivity to various apps. Jim From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wed 5/12/2010 6:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: citrix xenapp Something you may want to try is to put a switch on the outside of your firewall, so that you can plug in a PC, to be able to test as if you're coming in from the outside. I had this setup in my last job, and it was very helpful. S Powell powe...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 2:33 PM when I try the internal address, everything works fine. the issue is trying (from inside the network --which may be the issue) the public ipaddress. the web interface lets me login but when I try to launch an app Citrix just gets stuck on trying to connect I may have to try it from the outside world Google.com Learn it. Live it. Love it. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 14:00, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: is the IP you're trying to hit a public IP? Or private internally, and NATed to a public for external access? That's the first thing that pops in my head S Powell powe...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 1:58 PM Hi I'm trying to get Citrix Xenapp web set up, and cannot get it to work externally. Internally it works just fin but not through our firewall, (isa server 2006). I've been through their docs, and so far no joy. MS, Isaserver.org, Citrix all, I've done everything I can think of. Do any of you have Xenapp web and ISA working? if so how? Thanks in advance. ./s Google. Learn it. Live it. Love it. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este facsímile, incluyendo lo adjunto, es para el uso exclusivo del destinatario(s) y puede contener información confidencial y/o información protegida de salud. En virtud de la Ley Federal (HIPAA), el destinatario tiene la obligación de mantener esta información segura y confidencial. Cualquier divulgación a terceros sin la autorización de los miembros de lo permitido por la ley está prohibido y penado en virtud de la Ley Federal. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, póngase en contacto con el remitente por teléfono y destruir todas las copias del mensaje original ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: citrix xenapp
+1 on this. I got my boss to give me a cheap 256k dsl for testing. Has come in handy way more than once. It's right here and always on for testing. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: citrix xenapp Another way would be to put in a DSL/Broadband line at the office that only you can use to do your testing. Jon On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Jim Holmgren jholmg...@xlhealth.com wrote: Another quick and easy way to test is (if you have one) to use a broadband air card. I use one to test public connections, as well as testing VPN connectivity to various apps. Jim From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Wed 5/12/2010 6:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: citrix xenapp Something you may want to try is to put a switch on the outside of your firewall, so that you can plug in a PC, to be able to test as if you're coming in from the outside. I had this setup in my last job, and it was very helpful. S Powell powe...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 2:33 PM when I try the internal address, everything works fine. the issue is trying (from inside the network --which may be the issue) the public ipaddress. the web interface lets me login but when I try to launch an app Citrix just gets stuck on trying to connect I may have to try it from the outside world Google.com Learn it. Live it. Love it. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 14:00, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: is the IP you're trying to hit a public IP? Or private internally, and NATed to a public for external access? That's the first thing that pops in my head S Powell powe...@gmail.com 5/12/2010 1:58 PM Hi I'm trying to get Citrix Xenapp web set up, and cannot get it to work externally. Internally it works just fin but not through our firewall, (isa server 2006). I've been through their docs, and so far no joy. MS, Isaserver.org, Citrix all, I've done everything I can think of. Do any of you have Xenapp web and ISA working? if so how? Thanks in advance. ./s Google. Learn it. Live it. Love it. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or protected health information. Under the Federal Law (HIPAA), the intended recipient is obligated to keep this information secure and confidential. Any disclosure to third parties without authorization from the member of as permitted by law is prohibited and punishable under Federal Law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: Este mensaje incluyendo cualquier anejo es para uso exclusivo del (los) destinatario (s) y puede incluir información confidencial y/o información de salud protegida. La Ley Federal (HIPAA) establece que el destinatario está obligado a mantener la información confidencial y sequra. HIPAA prohíbe y castiga cualquier divulgación a terceras personas sin autorización del afiliado o permitido por ley. Si usted no es el destinatario, redirija esta mensaje al remitente, y destruye cualquier copia existente del mensaje original. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
