RE: Microsoft DPM?

[Michael B. Smith]

DPM (and any other native VSS application) tend to require a somewhat different 
mindset than traditional backup applications.

At this point - I prefer DPM over BE, despite having used BE since...uh...1997? 
Around that, anyway.

YMMV.

They both can get the job done.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: jesse-r...@wi.rr.com [mailto:jesse-r...@wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Microsoft DPM?

Looking for some feedback on this...

Have typically always used Symantec Backup Exec for backups at customers. 
Or for smallers clients, the built in Windows Backup utility.  How does
Microsoft Data Protection Manager compare?  Cheaper or more expensive? 
Easy to setup or not?  Advantages/disadvantages versus Symantec Backup
Exec?  

Share your thoughts, thanks.
J



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RE: Image Editing software [OT]

[Michael B. Smith]

Correct for me as well.

We could manually type in the sequence numbers in 73-80, but it wasn't 
automatic.

And given that EVERY time you hit any character (including the space bar), it 
took about a third of a second for the mechanical movement to catch up - lots 
of people didn't bother. And lots of people who did weren't consistent about it.

I wrote a resequencer in BASM in order to punch sequence numbers on fresh 
cards. Read in a deck - write out a deck with sequence numbers. The punch 
attached to the mainframe didn't have the same performance issues as the manual 
punch.

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From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 5:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Image Editing software [OT]

Not all of us had access to the "high end" stuff that would do this.  I know I 
did not have access to one.

Jon
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Ken Cornetet 
mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com>> wrote:
Trivia - that is why FORTRAN only reads the first 72 columns of the input 
"deck". This allows the programmer to configure their keypunch machine to 
automatically punch an  auto-incrementing number in columns 73 through 80.

That way, if you drop your deck, you run them through a card sorter.

Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499
To err is human - to moo, bovine.

From: Michael B. Smith 
[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:05 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Image Editing software [OT]

Nope... I took Fortran (that was WATFOR, before any of that crazy Fortran-77 
stuff) and BASM (IBM Basic Assembler) on punch cards.

You want to see a grown man cry? See a punch-card operator drop his 1000-card 
deck while loading it into a punch card reader.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
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From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Image Editing software

I've heard people talk about this BT (Before Terminals) but always just 
discounted them as crazy people.  Like Big Foot.

:)
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Guyer, Don 
mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com>> wrote:
I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...

:p

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-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Image Editing software

I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
is
da bomb! :)


Webster

> -Original Message-
> From: Rankin, James R 
> [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
>
> I used to live a fulfilled electronic life using a 1K ZX81
>
> --Original Message--
> From: Michael B. Smith
> Subject: RE: Image Editing software
> Sent: 9 Jun 2011 23:45
>
> Who needs more than 640K?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kennedy, Jim
> mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>> wrote:
> > But the bottom line is Adobe imaging products just don't play well
in
> > a network environment. They still strongly recommend against editing
a
> > file on a server with Photoshop, they say copy it locally first.
>
>   This "network" idea will never take off anyway.


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Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Steven Peck]

My wife thought that was funny.  Then again, she says my playing computer
games is a good thing too (she gets annoyed if I put the headphones on
during WoW raid night as she likes the background chatter).

Oh course I had four tasks assigned.
1.  Get her to the hospital
2.  Allow her to crush my hand during delivery
3.  Break any cameras that showed up during delivery.
4.  Tell (bad) jokes at inappropriate times (well, this wasn't a task so
much as an acknoledgement that it would happen no matter what)

Sadly, I was not given any opertunity to deliver on item #3 as she told
everyone my list ahead of time.

Steven

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> I am in awe.
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2011, Rankin, James R  wrote:
> > Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was
> inspired to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room
> full of female nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead
> balloon.
> > Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom:  "Sam
> Cayze" 
> > Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500To: NT System Admin Issues<
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>ReplyTo:  "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>Subject: OT: xkcd: Permanence
> > Yet another great one!http://xkcd.com/910/
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Re: Image Editing software

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Webster  wrote:
> Yep, on those old IBM systems you typed in a line of stuff and when you were
> sure everything was correct you pressed the “EOB” key.  EOB is End Of
> Business or that was what our dedicated IBM FE told me.

  "End Of Block".

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/globalization/terminology/e.html#x2274851

  I think the equivilent ASCII character is ETB (End of Transmission
Block).  There's a bunch of obscure control characters designated for
data structures.  They aren't much used these days.

-- Ben

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Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[John Cook]

Like the perfect man - duct tape on his mouth and a steak knife in his chest!
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families


From: Kim Longenbaugh 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Fri Jun 10 17:56:33 2011
Subject: RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence

Oh, they have a sense of humor.  It is just incomprehensible to men, as is ours 
to them.

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

Most men do. Women. No sense of humour :-0

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device


From: "Sam Cayze" 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:00:47 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence

I laughed :)

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was inspired 
to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room full of female 
nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead balloon.

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device


From: "Sam Cayze" 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: OT: xkcd: Permanence


Yet another great one!

http://xkcd.com/910/

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Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Jonathan Link]

I am in awe.

On Friday, June 10, 2011, Rankin, James R  wrote:
> Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was 
> inspired to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room 
> full of female nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead balloon.
> Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless deviceFrom:  "Sam 
> Cayze" 
> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500To: NT System Admin 
> IssuesReplyTo:  "NT System Admin 
> Issues" Subject: OT: xkcd: Permanence
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RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Kim Longenbaugh]

Oh, they have a sense of humor.  It is just incomprehensible to men, as is ours 
to them.

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

Most men do. Women. No sense of humour :-0

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry(r) wireless device


From: "Sam Cayze" 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:00:47 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence

I laughed :)

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was inspired 
to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room full of female 
nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead balloon.

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry(r) wireless device


From: "Sam Cayze" 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: OT: xkcd: Permanence


Yet another great one!

http://xkcd.com/910/

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Re: Image Editing software

[Steven Peck]

I heard EOB was 'End of Billing' ;)
and I started on a 300 baud modem so was merely having fun on Friday

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Webster  wrote:

> I do wear size 12 ½ shoes.  Does that count as “big foot” or “feet”? J
>
>
>
> Yep, on those old IBM systems you typed in a line of stuff and when you
> were sure everything was correct you pressed the “EOB” key.  EOB is End Of
> Business or that was what our dedicated IBM FE told me.  At the end of each
> shift, the Systems Auditor would come down and retrieve your shift’s console
> paper.  Needless to say, there was NO playing around and you were extremely
> careful with what was typed in.
>
>
>
>
>
> Webster
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Subject:* Re: Image Editing software
>
>
>
> I've heard people talk about this BT (Before Terminals) but always just
> discounted them as crazy people.  Like Big Foot.
>
>
>
> :)
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
>
> I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...
>
> :p
>
> Don Guyer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
> Subject: RE: Image Editing software
>
> I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
> way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
> is
> da bomb! :)
>
>
> Webster
>
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RE: Image Editing software

[Webster]

I do wear size 12 ½ shoes.  Does that count as “big foot” or “feet”? J

 

Yep, on those old IBM systems you typed in a line of stuff and when you were
sure everything was correct you pressed the “EOB” key.  EOB is End Of
Business or that was what our dedicated IBM FE told me.  At the end of each
shift, the Systems Auditor would come down and retrieve your shift’s console
paper.  Needless to say, there was NO playing around and you were extremely
careful with what was typed in.

 

 

Webster

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Subject: Re: Image Editing software

 

I've heard people talk about this BT (Before Terminals) but always just
discounted them as crazy people.  Like Big Foot.

 

:)

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...

:p

Don Guyer

-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Subject: RE: Image Editing software

I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
is
da bomb! :)


Webster




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Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Jon Harris]

I have the same kind of reminder just on a different issue.  I was late
picking my wife up at the airport due to my picking up her cousin.  The
cousin was hosting a party for my wife and had no way to get to the airport
or the party.  My wife of 7 months had just arrived in the states for the
first time.  Funny thing is my wife is always late to parties now.

Jon

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Rankin, James R wrote:

> To this day it is regularly used by my wife as an example of male
> stupidity/insensitivity
>
> Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
> --
>  *From: *Jon Harris 
> *Date: *Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:10:08 -0400
>  *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> *Subject: *Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence
>
> You sir are lucky you are still male if you did that in the delievery
> room!  I guess there was not a female OB in the room at the time.
>
> Jon
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Rankin, James R wrote:
>
>> Most men do. Women. No sense of humour :-0
>>
>> Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
>> --
>> *From: *"Sam Cayze" 
>> *Date: *Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:00:47 -0500
>>  *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <
>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>> *Subject: *RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence
>>
>>  I laughed :)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2011 3:58 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence
>>
>>
>>
>> Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was
>> inspired to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room
>> full of female nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead
>> balloon.
>>
>> Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
>>  --
>>
>> *From: *"Sam Cayze" 
>>
>> *Date: *Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500
>>
>> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <
>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>>
>> *Subject: *OT: xkcd: Permanence
>>
>>
>>
>> Yet another great one!
>>
>> http://xkcd.com/910/
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RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

[David Lum]

Ah...I just put an I.T. Garage logo on the block message and my customers know 
it's a legit block message. I can see in some environments that not being 
sufficient.

Dave

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DNS Services with malware blocking?

I think they are on the block messages, but I last used it a long time ago

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry(r) wireless device


From: David Lum 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:10:34 +
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

OpenDNS has ads? You mean just when using the console right? All my clients are 
routed through OpenDNS, not much simpler than forwarding through 208.67.222.222 
...

Dave

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Sunbelt's was ClearCloud which they're discontinuing.  OpenDNS may be a little 
too commercial/ad-laden for my tastes.  I guess that's the issue - there aren't 
many commercial offerings out there than I know of, but anything free has to 
pay its way so you end up with ads/sponsored links etc.

From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 10 June 2011 7:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?
Our list vendor has a solution, as does OpenDNS.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Does anyone have any experience of the various DNS services out there that 
claim to block malicious sites?

The usual stuff about layered approach etc. is understood so this is in the 
context of one layer.  ClearCloud looked interesting but I never tried it, and 
as they're discontinuing it there seems little point.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Rankin, James R]

To this day it is regularly used by my wife as an example of male 
stupidity/insensitivity

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device

-Original Message-
From: Jon Harris 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 17:10:08 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

You sir are lucky you are still male if you did that in the delievery room!
I guess there was not a female OB in the room at the time.

Jon

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Rankin, James R wrote:

> Most men do. Women. No sense of humour :-0
>
> Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
> --
> *From: *"Sam Cayze" 
> *Date: *Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:00:47 -0500
>  *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> *Subject: *RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence
>
>  I laughed :)
>
>
>
> *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2011 3:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence
>
>
>
> Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was
> inspired to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room
> full of female nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead
> balloon.
>
> Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
>  --
>
> *From: *"Sam Cayze" 
>
> *Date: *Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *OT: xkcd: Permanence
>
>
>
> Yet another great one!
>
> http://xkcd.com/910/
>
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Re: DNS Services with malware blocking?

[Rankin, James R]

I think they are on the block messages, but I last used it a long time ago

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device

-Original Message-
From: David Lum 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:10:34 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware 
blocking?

OpenDNS has ads? You mean just when using the console right? All my clients are 
routed through OpenDNS, not much simpler than forwarding through 208.67.222.222 
...

Dave

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Sunbelt's was ClearCloud which they're discontinuing.  OpenDNS may be a little 
too commercial/ad-laden for my tastes.  I guess that's the issue - there aren't 
many commercial offerings out there than I know of, but anything free has to 
pay its way so you end up with ads/sponsored links etc.

From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 10 June 2011 7:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?
Our list vendor has a solution, as does OpenDNS.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Does anyone have any experience of the various DNS services out there that 
claim to block malicious sites?

The usual stuff about layered approach etc. is understood so this is in the 
context of one layer.  ClearCloud looked interesting but I never tried it, and 
as they're discontinuing it there seems little point.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: Image Editing software [OT]

[Jon Harris]

Not all of us had access to the "high end" stuff that would do this.  I know
I did not have access to one.

Jon

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Ken Cornetet wrote:

>  Trivia – that is why FORTRAN only reads the first 72 columns of the input
> “deck”. This allows the programmer to configure their keypunch machine to
> automatically punch an  auto-incrementing number in columns 73 through 80.
>
>
>
> That way, if you drop your deck, you run them through a card sorter.
>
>
>
> Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499
>
> To err is human - to moo, bovine.
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2011 4:05 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Image Editing software [OT]
>
>
>
> Nope… I took Fortran (that was WATFOR, before any of that crazy Fortran-77
> stuff) and BASM (IBM Basic Assembler) on punch cards.
>
>
>
> You want to see a grown man cry? See a punch-card operator drop his
> 1000-card deck while loading it into a punch card reader.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com 
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2011 4:00 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Image Editing software
>
>
>
> I've heard people talk about this BT (Before Terminals) but always just
> discounted them as crazy people.  Like Big Foot.
>
>
>
> :)
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
>
> I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...
>
> :p
>
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Image Editing software
>
> I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
> way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
> is
> da bomb! :)
>
>
> Webster
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> > Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> >
> > I used to live a fulfilled electronic life using a 1K ZX81
> >
> > --Original Message--
> > From: Michael B. Smith
> > Subject: RE: Image Editing software
> > Sent: 9 Jun 2011 23:45
> >
> > Who needs more than 640K?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kennedy, Jim
> >  wrote:
> > > But the bottom line is Adobe imaging products just don't play well
> in
> > > a network environment. They still strongly recommend against editing
> a
> > > file on a server with Photoshop, they say copy it locally first.
> >
> >   This "network" idea will never take off anyway.
>
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RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

[David Lum]

OpenDNS has ads? You mean just when using the console right? All my clients are 
routed through OpenDNS, not much simpler than forwarding through 208.67.222.222 
...

Dave

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Sunbelt's was ClearCloud which they're discontinuing.  OpenDNS may be a little 
too commercial/ad-laden for my tastes.  I guess that's the issue - there aren't 
many commercial offerings out there than I know of, but anything free has to 
pay its way so you end up with ads/sponsored links etc.

From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 10 June 2011 7:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?
Our list vendor has a solution, as does OpenDNS.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Does anyone have any experience of the various DNS services out there that 
claim to block malicious sites?

The usual stuff about layered approach etc. is understood so this is in the 
context of one layer.  ClearCloud looked interesting but I never tried it, and 
as they're discontinuing it there seems little point.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Jon Harris]

You sir are lucky you are still male if you did that in the delievery room!
I guess there was not a female OB in the room at the time.

Jon

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Rankin, James R wrote:

> Most men do. Women. No sense of humour :-0
>
> Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
> --
> *From: *"Sam Cayze" 
> *Date: *Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:00:47 -0500
>  *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> *Subject: *RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence
>
>  I laughed :)
>
>
>
> *From:* Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2011 3:58 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence
>
>
>
> Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was
> inspired to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room
> full of female nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead
> balloon.
>
> Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
>  --
>
> *From: *"Sam Cayze" 
>
> *Date: *Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *OT: xkcd: Permanence
>
>
>
> Yet another great one!
>
> http://xkcd.com/910/
>
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Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Rankin, James R]

Most men do. Women. No sense of humour :-0
Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device

-Original Message-
From: "Sam Cayze" 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:00:47 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence

I laughed :)

 

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

 

Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was
inspired to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room
full of female nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead
balloon.

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerryR wireless device

  _  

From: "Sam Cayze"  

Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 

Subject: OT: xkcd: Permanence

 

Yet another great one!

http://xkcd.com/910/ 

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RE: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Sam Cayze]

I laughed :)

 

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

 

Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was
inspired to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room
full of female nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead
balloon.

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerryR wireless device

  _  

From: "Sam Cayze"  

Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 -0500

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 

Subject: OT: xkcd: Permanence

 

Yet another great one!

http://xkcd.com/910/ 

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Re: DNS Services with malware blocking?

[Andrew S. Baker]

OpenDNS is fairly inexpensive for a year of service, if you pay for the
enterprise edition.


*ASB *(Professional Bio )
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...




On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Paul Hutchings
wrote:

>  Sunbelt's was ClearCloud which they're discontinuing.  OpenDNS may be a
> little too commercial/ad-laden for my tastes.  I guess that's the issue -
> there aren't many commercial offerings out there than I know of, but
> anything free has to pay its way so you end up with ads/sponsored links etc.
>  --
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* 10 June 2011 7:50 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?
>
>   Our list vendor has a solution, as does OpenDNS.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2011 2:49 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* DNS Services with malware blocking?
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience of the various DNS services out there that
> claim to block malicious sites?
>
>
>
> The usual stuff about layered approach etc. is understood so this is in the
> context of one layer.  ClearCloud looked interesting but I never tried it,
> and as they're discontinuing it there seems little point.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>   --
>
> *MIRA Ltd*
>
>
>

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Re: OT: xkcd: Permanence

[Rankin, James R]

Hehe. When my wife was in labour and puffing on the gas and air, I was inspired 
to do my best Darth Vader impression. Needless to say, in a room full of female 
nurses, my mood-lightening joke went down like a lead balloon.

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device

-Original Message-
From: "Sam Cayze" 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 15:53:24 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: OT: xkcd: Permanence

Yet another great one!

http://xkcd.com/910/ 


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Re: Android Vulnerability

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 18 May 2011 at 11:00, John Aldrich  wrote:

> Any of you Android users here want to comment on this story about the newly
> discovered vulnerability in Android's O/S: http://preview.tinyurl.com/6xk8bwp

Update at the bottom of the story, a day later, it's fixed. 
http://previewtinyurl.com/5thm2or


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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RE: Image Editing software [OT]

[Ken Cornetet]

Trivia - that is why FORTRAN only reads the first 72 columns of the input 
"deck". This allows the programmer to configure their keypunch machine to 
automatically punch an  auto-incrementing number in columns 73 through 80.

That way, if you drop your deck, you run them through a card sorter.

Ken Cornetet 812.482.8499
To err is human - to moo, bovine.

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Image Editing software [OT]

Nope... I took Fortran (that was WATFOR, before any of that crazy Fortran-77 
stuff) and BASM (IBM Basic Assembler) on punch cards.

You want to see a grown man cry? See a punch-card operator drop his 1000-card 
deck while loading it into a punch card reader.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Image Editing software

I've heard people talk about this BT (Before Terminals) but always just 
discounted them as crazy people.  Like Big Foot.

:)
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Guyer, Don 
mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com>> wrote:
I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...

:p

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Enterprise Technology Group
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-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Image Editing software

I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
is
da bomb! :)


Webster

> -Original Message-
> From: Rankin, James R 
> [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
>
> I used to live a fulfilled electronic life using a 1K ZX81
>
> --Original Message--
> From: Michael B. Smith
> Subject: RE: Image Editing software
> Sent: 9 Jun 2011 23:45
>
> Who needs more than 640K?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kennedy, Jim
> mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>> wrote:
> > But the bottom line is Adobe imaging products just don't play well
in
> > a network environment. They still strongly recommend against editing
a
> > file on a server with Photoshop, they say copy it locally first.
>
>   This "network" idea will never take off anyway.


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RE: Image Editing software [OT]

[RichardMcClary]

Naw... 

Our computer center had a special sorter.

The crying came about when while carrying the 1000-card deck to the 
building with the card reader, the deck was dropped and sent flying - many 
cards ending up in mud puddles.

Back then, I thought the formatting drum was the height of technology...
--
richard

"Michael B. Smith"  wrote on 06/10/2011 03:05:22 
PM:

> Nope? I took Fortran (that was WATFOR, before any of that crazy 
> Fortran-77 stuff) and BASM (IBM Basic Assembler) on punch cards.
> 
> You want to see a grown man cry? See a punch-card operator drop his 
> 1000-card deck while loading it into a punch card reader.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
> 
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:00 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> 
> I've heard people talk about this BT (Before Terminals) but always 
> just discounted them as crazy people.  Like Big Foot.
> 
> :)
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Guyer, Don  
wrote:
> I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...
> 
> :p
> 
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Image Editing software
> 
> I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
> way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
> is
> da bomb! :)
> 
> 
> Webster
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> > Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> >
> > I used to live a fulfilled electronic life using a 1K ZX81
> >
> > --Original Message--
> > From: Michael B. Smith
> > Subject: RE: Image Editing software
> > Sent: 9 Jun 2011 23:45
> >
> > Who needs more than 640K?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kennedy, Jim
> >  wrote:
> > > But the bottom line is Adobe imaging products just don't play well
> in
> > > a network environment. They still strongly recommend against editing
> a
> > > file on a server with Photoshop, they say copy it locally first.
> >
> >   This "network" idea will never take off anyway.
> 
> 
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RE: Image Editing software [OT]

[Michael B. Smith]

Nope... I took Fortran (that was WATFOR, before any of that crazy Fortran-77 
stuff) and BASM (IBM Basic Assembler) on punch cards.

You want to see a grown man cry? See a punch-card operator drop his 1000-card 
deck while loading it into a punch card reader.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 4:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Image Editing software

I've heard people talk about this BT (Before Terminals) but always just 
discounted them as crazy people.  Like Big Foot.

:)
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Guyer, Don 
mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com>> wrote:
I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...

:p

Don Guyer
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RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com

-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Image Editing software

I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
is
da bomb! :)


Webster

> -Original Message-
> From: Rankin, James R 
> [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
>
> I used to live a fulfilled electronic life using a 1K ZX81
>
> --Original Message--
> From: Michael B. Smith
> Subject: RE: Image Editing software
> Sent: 9 Jun 2011 23:45
>
> Who needs more than 640K?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kennedy, Jim
> mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org>> wrote:
> > But the bottom line is Adobe imaging products just don't play well
in
> > a network environment. They still strongly recommend against editing
a
> > file on a server with Photoshop, they say copy it locally first.
>
>   This "network" idea will never take off anyway.


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Re: Image Editing software

[Steven Peck]

I've heard people talk about this BT (Before Terminals) but always just
discounted them as crazy people.  Like Big Foot.

:)

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...
>
> :p
>
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> www.fiserv.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:24 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Image Editing software
>
> I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
> way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
> is
> da bomb! :)
>
>
> Webster
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> > Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> >
> > I used to live a fulfilled electronic life using a 1K ZX81
> >
> > --Original Message--
> > From: Michael B. Smith
> > Subject: RE: Image Editing software
> > Sent: 9 Jun 2011 23:45
> >
> > Who needs more than 640K?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kennedy, Jim
> >  wrote:
> > > But the bottom line is Adobe imaging products just don't play well
> in
> > > a network environment. They still strongly recommend against editing
> a
> > > file on a server with Photoshop, they say copy it locally first.
> >
> >   This "network" idea will never take off anyway.
>
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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Evan Brastow]

Well, this was on a desktop, so not as big a deal.

Thanks guys :)

Evan


From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Pinning to the explorer menu is nice, and reduces accidents.
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Exactly, which is why I avoid doing so.

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:27 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Well, it's trying to access a network resource and with windows it seems it 
needs a TCP timeout when it makes the attempt which sort of freezes you.
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Sam Cayze 
mailto:sca...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've always avoided pinning network locations anywhere on my LAPTOPS because
Explorer freaks out when it can't find the target.

Example, if you have a shortcut on the desktop to a network folder that is
unavail, and you are dragging an item to the Recycle Bin, but happen to drag
it over the network shortcut, Explorer will flip out for what seems like an
eternity before giving you access to the cursor again.

I've seen this behavior in many other situations too.  Such as having a
network location as an item in the Save As dialog box.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Evan Brastow
mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com>> wrote:
> I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network
> drive. I want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in
Windows 7.
> But, I can't.

 A shortcut targeted to a network resource can't be pinned to the Start
Menu.  According to Microsoft, this is by design.  Microsoft says pinning is
for frequently used items, not network items.  About a billion people have
pointed out that the two categories are unrelated, but Microsoft apparently
just doesn't get it.  Maybe they don't have networks in Redmond; I dunno.

 As others have said, you have to put something local in front of the
network resource, to fool Windows into working properly.  That can be a
shortcut stored locally (targeted at the network resource), or an invocation
of EXPLORER targeted at the resource, etc.

-- Ben

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Re: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Steven Peck]

Pinning to the explorer menu is nice, and reduces accidents.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> Exactly, which is why I avoid doing so.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2011 2:27 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg
>
>
>
> Well, it's trying to access a network resource and with windows it seems it
> needs a TCP timeout when it makes the attempt which sort of freezes you.
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:
>
> I've always avoided pinning network locations anywhere on my LAPTOPS
> because
> Explorer freaks out when it can't find the target.
>
> Example, if you have a shortcut on the desktop to a network folder that is
> unavail, and you are dragging an item to the Recycle Bin, but happen to
> drag
> it over the network shortcut, Explorer will flip out for what seems like an
> eternity before giving you access to the cursor again.
>
> I've seen this behavior in many other situations too.  Such as having a
> network location as an item in the Save As dialog box.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Evan Brastow
>  wrote:
> > I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network
> > drive. I want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in
> Windows 7.
> > But, I can't.
>
>  A shortcut targeted to a network resource can't be pinned to the Start
> Menu.  According to Microsoft, this is by design.  Microsoft says pinning
> is
> for frequently used items, not network items.  About a billion people have
> pointed out that the two categories are unrelated, but Microsoft apparently
> just doesn't get it.  Maybe they don't have networks in Redmond; I dunno.
>
>  As others have said, you have to put something local in front of the
> network resource, to fool Windows into working properly.  That can be a
> shortcut stored locally (targeted at the network resource), or an
> invocation
> of EXPLORER targeted at the resource, etc.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Sam Cayze]

Exactly, which is why I avoid doing so.

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

 

Well, it's trying to access a network resource and with windows it seems it
needs a TCP timeout when it makes the attempt which sort of freezes you.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

I've always avoided pinning network locations anywhere on my LAPTOPS because
Explorer freaks out when it can't find the target.

Example, if you have a shortcut on the desktop to a network folder that is
unavail, and you are dragging an item to the Recycle Bin, but happen to drag
it over the network shortcut, Explorer will flip out for what seems like an
eternity before giving you access to the cursor again.

I've seen this behavior in many other situations too.  Such as having a
network location as an item in the Save As dialog box.


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Evan Brastow
 wrote:
> I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network
> drive. I want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in
Windows 7.
> But, I can't.

 A shortcut targeted to a network resource can't be pinned to the Start
Menu.  According to Microsoft, this is by design.  Microsoft says pinning is
for frequently used items, not network items.  About a billion people have
pointed out that the two categories are unrelated, but Microsoft apparently
just doesn't get it.  Maybe they don't have networks in Redmond; I dunno.

 As others have said, you have to put something local in front of the
network resource, to fool Windows into working properly.  That can be a
shortcut stored locally (targeted at the network resource), or an invocation
of EXPLORER targeted at the resource, etc.

-- Ben

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Re: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Steven Peck]

Well, it's trying to access a network resource and with windows it seems it
needs a TCP timeout when it makes the attempt which sort of freezes you.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> I've always avoided pinning network locations anywhere on my LAPTOPS
> because
> Explorer freaks out when it can't find the target.
>
> Example, if you have a shortcut on the desktop to a network folder that is
> unavail, and you are dragging an item to the Recycle Bin, but happen to
> drag
> it over the network shortcut, Explorer will flip out for what seems like an
> eternity before giving you access to the cursor again.
>
> I've seen this behavior in many other situations too.  Such as having a
> network location as an item in the Save As dialog box.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Evan Brastow
>  wrote:
> > I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network
> > drive. I want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in
> Windows 7.
> > But, I can't.
>
>  A shortcut targeted to a network resource can't be pinned to the Start
> Menu.  According to Microsoft, this is by design.  Microsoft says pinning
> is
> for frequently used items, not network items.  About a billion people have
> pointed out that the two categories are unrelated, but Microsoft apparently
> just doesn't get it.  Maybe they don't have networks in Redmond; I dunno.
>
>  As others have said, you have to put something local in front of the
> network resource, to fool Windows into working properly.  That can be a
> shortcut stored locally (targeted at the network resource), or an
> invocation
> of EXPLORER targeted at the resource, etc.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: RE: RE: windows 7 forensics

[Joe Tinney]

I've used and had fantastic results using the SIFT workstation from SANS 
Institute:
http://computer-forensics.sans.org/community/downloads/

I take a DD image of the drive and then develop a SUPER Timeline: 
http://computer-forensics.sans.org/blog/2010/03/19/digital-forensic-sifting-super-timeline-analysis-and-creation/

Works great and the end result is a massive CSV file of all activity - NTFS, 
web, recent process launches, etc and it is all time-sequenced. I've done this 
to track down where and when malware entry occurred on the system.

Good luck!

From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 2:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: RE: windows 7 forensics


understand and agree.  However, if the boss says, "do it anyway," what approach 
would you use?

Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon 
network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.

On Jun 9, 2011 2:07 PM, "John Cook" 
mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
> Honestly, I would (if possible) pull the machine out from under the user 
> (make up some excuse about warranty issue or something) wrap it in tape so 
> the case can't be cracked and have someone sign it and date it for future 
> reference.
>
> From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:56 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: RE: windows 7 forensics
>
>
> Good points from all of you. I don't know that a third party will be brought 
> in at all, but want to be prepared in case it does turn into something 
> bigger, which is why I asked the list.
>
> What would you guys recommend for cloning for this purpose? The last thing I 
> used was Ghost, but have used dfsee and others...
>
> Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the 
> Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings.
>
> On Jun 9, 2011 1:45 PM, "John Cook" 
> mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>>>
>  wrote:
>> The second you log on as an Admin files have changed. If there are Legal 
>> discoveries then the evidence is tainted. Forensic specialists clone the HD 
>> with a special setup and do discovery on the clone thus preserving the 
>> original for evidence.
>>
>> From: Jonathan Link 
>> [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:31 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: windows 7 forensics
>>
>> Some alarm bells are going off. If there's a professional service involved, 
>> why are you doing anything? Have you asked them what they would suggest so 
>> you could do your own analysis?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Jonathan 
>> mailto:ncm...@gmail.com>>>  wrote:
>>
>> for those of you you do not have content filtering in place, when someone 
>> asks you to analyze a computer to figure out where they've been what 
>> software to use?
>>
>> I've used iehist to examine index.dat files but I'm wondering if there is 
>> anything better thats come out since I haven't done this in a year or two.
>>
>> free is preferable, but I need to be able to preserve the system as it is 
>> for potential "professional" forensic analysis in addition to my own 
>> analysis.
>>
>> Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>
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Re: Access form password

[Manuel Santos]

In a government office I worked, where I was the Development Manager, i had
a few "wars" with the administration because they wanted the databases to be
in access and the aplications should follow the access structure and not the
SQL structure

2011/6/10 Steven Peck 

> You should try our answer
>
> Us - "Sounds like you need to budget for another developer for it"
> Them - "But it's business critical"
> Us - "Sounds like you should be able to find the funding for a position
> then."
>
> Now, this doesn't actually always work, but it works most of the time
> fortunatly.  Partly because we actively scan for access databases on our
> network shares and then give them our policy which is, we don't support it
> please let us know who your business contact is that does so we know where
> to direct issue requests too.
>
> The few occasions tey do make it 'our problem' we help them find the
> funding so it can be converted to a more sustainable app on one of the SQL
> databases.  Then it goes in the end of year reports as a big giant reminder.
>
> Steven Peck
> http://www.blkmtn.org
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Matthew B Ames 
> wrote:
>
>>  We have had the “cottage-industry” of Access applications across the
>> company I work for too.  They are developed by normal staff who then
>> leave/move on and then these things chug along for a bit and then start to
>> fail and end up in my department for fixing.   L
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>> *Sent:* 10 June 2011 14:56
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Access form password
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks everyone for all the pointers. However...I think the database is
>> corrupted. It can't be repaired, you can't view the database properties, it
>> throws an index error every time - and according to Google, that points to a
>> database "corrupted beyond repair". Even though the users are still managing
>> to utilize it. Somehow.
>>
>>
>> I think I may try to use this as the starting point for a larger project
>> to get the myriad small Access databases dotted around the place
>> consolidated into a single SQL-based system with proper maintenance and
>> authentication etc.
>>
>> I am so glad it's Friday afternoon :-)
>>
>>  On 10 June 2011 14:52, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:
>>
>> It may help if you could see the contents of the .df files. There are some
>> free viewers. DBFPlus comes to mind. You may also need to convert those .dbf
>> files. DBFConvert probably do the trick for you. That way you dont have to
>> go hunting for an older version of Access. Then I use a hex editor to look
>> at those forms. Also, I would look at any vba scripting files, if any.
>>
>> But, that's me.
>>
>> Typed not so frustratingly on my Dell Streak 7.
>>
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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Sam Cayze]

I've always avoided pinning network locations anywhere on my LAPTOPS because
Explorer freaks out when it can't find the target.

Example, if you have a shortcut on the desktop to a network folder that is
unavail, and you are dragging an item to the Recycle Bin, but happen to drag
it over the network shortcut, Explorer will flip out for what seems like an
eternity before giving you access to the cursor again.

I've seen this behavior in many other situations too.  Such as having a
network location as an item in the Save As dialog box.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Evan Brastow
 wrote:
> I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network 
> drive. I want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in
Windows 7.
> But, I can't.

  A shortcut targeted to a network resource can't be pinned to the Start
Menu.  According to Microsoft, this is by design.  Microsoft says pinning is
for frequently used items, not network items.  About a billion people have
pointed out that the two categories are unrelated, but Microsoft apparently
just doesn't get it.  Maybe they don't have networks in Redmond; I dunno.

  As others have said, you have to put something local in front of the
network resource, to fool Windows into working properly.  That can be a
shortcut stored locally (targeted at the network resource), or an invocation
of EXPLORER targeted at the resource, etc.

-- Ben

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RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

[Michael B. Smith]

Sorry, I didn't realize Sunbelt's was ClearCloud.

I know that OpenDNS has for-pay options that are fewer/no adverts, but I don't 
know how much they cost.

Websense has a service as well, but they definitely aren't cheap.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Sunbelt's was ClearCloud which they're discontinuing.  OpenDNS may be a little 
too commercial/ad-laden for my tastes.  I guess that's the issue - there aren't 
many commercial offerings out there than I know of, but anything free has to 
pay its way so you end up with ads/sponsored links etc.

From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 10 June 2011 7:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?
Our list vendor has a solution, as does OpenDNS.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Does anyone have any experience of the various DNS services out there that 
claim to block malicious sites?

The usual stuff about layered approach etc. is understood so this is in the 
context of one layer.  ClearCloud looked interesting but I never tried it, and 
as they're discontinuing it there seems little point.

Thanks,
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RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

[Paul Hutchings]

Sunbelt's was ClearCloud which they're discontinuing.  OpenDNS may be a little 
too commercial/ad-laden for my tastes.  I guess that's the issue - there aren't 
many commercial offerings out there than I know of, but anything free has to 
pay its way so you end up with ads/sponsored links etc.

From: Michael B. Smith [mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 10 June 2011 7:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Our list vendor has a solution, as does OpenDNS.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Does anyone have any experience of the various DNS services out there that 
claim to block malicious sites?

The usual stuff about layered approach etc. is understood so this is in the 
context of one layer.  ClearCloud looked interesting but I never tried it, and 
as they're discontinuing it there seems little point.

Thanks,
Paul

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Re: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Steven Peck]

I have explorer pinned to my task bar.  I can pin network drives to it and
all the pinned drives show up when I right click it.  Yes, this is not the
start menu.

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Evan Brastow
>  wrote:
> > I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive.
> I
> > want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.
> > But, I can't.
>
>   A shortcut targeted to a network resource can't be pinned to the
> Start Menu.  According to Microsoft, this is by design.  Microsoft
> says pinning is for frequently used items, not network items.  About a
> billion people have pointed out that the two categories are unrelated,
> but Microsoft apparently just doesn't get it.  Maybe they don't have
> networks in Redmond; I dunno.
>
>  As others have said, you have to put something local in front of the
> network resource, to fool Windows into working properly.  That can be
> a shortcut stored locally (targeted at the network resource), or an
> invocation of EXPLORER targeted at the resource, etc.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: DNS Services with malware blocking?

[Michael B. Smith]

Our list vendor has a solution, as does OpenDNS.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DNS Services with malware blocking?

Does anyone have any experience of the various DNS services out there that 
claim to block malicious sites?

The usual stuff about layered approach etc. is understood so this is in the 
context of one layer.  ClearCloud looked interesting but I never tried it, and 
as they're discontinuing it there seems little point.

Thanks,
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Re: Access form password

[Steven Peck]

You should try our answer

Us - "Sounds like you need to budget for another developer for it"
Them - "But it's business critical"
Us - "Sounds like you should be able to find the funding for a position
then."

Now, this doesn't actually always work, but it works most of the time
fortunatly.  Partly because we actively scan for access databases on our
network shares and then give them our policy which is, we don't support it
please let us know who your business contact is that does so we know where
to direct issue requests too.

The few occasions tey do make it 'our problem' we help them find the funding
so it can be converted to a more sustainable app on one of the SQL
databases.  Then it goes in the end of year reports as a big giant reminder.

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http://www.blkmtn.org

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Matthew B Ames wrote:

>  We have had the “cottage-industry” of Access applications across the
> company I work for too.  They are developed by normal staff who then
> leave/move on and then these things chug along for a bit and then start to
> fail and end up in my department for fixing.   L
>
>
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* 10 June 2011 14:56
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Access form password
>
>
>
> Thanks everyone for all the pointers. However...I think the database is
> corrupted. It can't be repaired, you can't view the database properties, it
> throws an index error every time - and according to Google, that points to a
> database "corrupted beyond repair". Even though the users are still managing
> to utilize it. Somehow.
>
>
> I think I may try to use this as the starting point for a larger project to
> get the myriad small Access databases dotted around the place consolidated
> into a single SQL-based system with proper maintenance and authentication
> etc.
>
> I am so glad it's Friday afternoon :-)
>
>  On 10 June 2011 14:52, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:
>
> It may help if you could see the contents of the .df files. There are some
> free viewers. DBFPlus comes to mind. You may also need to convert those .dbf
> files. DBFConvert probably do the trick for you. That way you dont have to
> go hunting for an older version of Access. Then I use a hex editor to look
> at those forms. Also, I would look at any vba scripting files, if any.
>
> But, that's me.
>
> Typed not so frustratingly on my Dell Streak 7.
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DNS Services with malware blocking?

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Does anyone have any experience of the various DNS services out there that 
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as they're discontinuing it there seems little point.

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Re: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Evan Brastow
 wrote:
> I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I
> want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.
> But, I can't.

  A shortcut targeted to a network resource can't be pinned to the
Start Menu.  According to Microsoft, this is by design.  Microsoft
says pinning is for frequently used items, not network items.  About a
billion people have pointed out that the two categories are unrelated,
but Microsoft apparently just doesn't get it.  Maybe they don't have
networks in Redmond; I dunno.

  As others have said, you have to put something local in front of the
network resource, to fool Windows into working properly.  That can be
a shortcut stored locally (targeted at the network resource), or an
invocation of EXPLORER targeted at the resource, etc.

-- Ben

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Microsoft DPM?

[jesse-r...@wi.rr.com]

Looking for some feedback on this...

Have typically always used Symantec Backup Exec for backups at customers. 
Or for smallers clients, the built in Windows Backup utility.  How does
Microsoft Data Protection Manager compare?  Cheaper or more expensive? 
Easy to setup or not?  Advantages/disadvantages versus Symantec Backup
Exec?  

Share your thoughts, thanks.
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Re: Cricket Liu on IPV6

[Roger Wright]

I'm fortunate to be invited to 3 - 5 lunch & learn events per month by
a number of vendors and able to attend a few.  Often they're at
terrific restaurants with delicious meals, and I always pick up a
number of tips and gain knowledge of new products and technologies in
the process - all on someone else's dime.

Cricket, however, is someone I could listen to all day.  I think he
could speak on anything and make it interesting and easy to follow.


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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Damien Solodow
 wrote:
> I actually went to an event a vendor had setup to watch that for a lunch and 
> learn. Someone goofed and the location didn't have adequate connectivity and 
> wireless kept dropping so we didn't see most of it. But hey, nice lunch one 
> their dime though. :)
>
> DAMIEN SOLODOW
> Systems Engineer
> 317.447.6033 (office)
> 317.447.6014 (fax)
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:51 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Cricket Liu on IPV6
>
> I had the opportunity to attend an Infoblox presentation recently featuring 
> Cricket.  He's probably the best tech speaker I've ever heard.
>
> Here's his recent presentation on IPV6:
>
> http://nsp.performedia.com/infoblox/ilw11/jun7-webcast2
>
>
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RE: Blow your wife's mind

[Tammy Stewart]

Looks like someone's account might be p0wn3d?

 

  _  

From: Leah Nunez [mailto:agbpnkyuayl...@gwido.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 3:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Blow your wife's mind

 

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RE: Cricket Liu on IPV6

[Damien Solodow]

I actually went to an event a vendor had setup to watch that for a lunch and 
learn. Someone goofed and the location didn't have adequate connectivity and 
wireless kept dropping so we didn't see most of it. But hey, nice lunch one 
their dime though. :)

DAMIEN SOLODOW
Systems Engineer
317.447.6033 (office)
317.447.6014 (fax)
HARRISON COLLEGE

-Original Message-
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cricket Liu on IPV6

I had the opportunity to attend an Infoblox presentation recently featuring 
Cricket.  He's probably the best tech speaker I've ever heard.

Here's his recent presentation on IPV6:

http://nsp.performedia.com/infoblox/ilw11/jun7-webcast2


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Cricket Liu on IPV6

[Roger Wright]

I had the opportunity to attend an Infoblox presentation recently
featuring Cricket.  He's probably the best tech speaker I've ever
heard.

Here's his recent presentation on IPV6:

http://nsp.performedia.com/infoblox/ilw11/jun7-webcast2


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Re: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Rankin, James R]

You probably need to log out and back in as there is a registry key to 
update...called TaskBand, IIRC

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device

-Original Message-
From: Evan Brastow 
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:17:26 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: Win 7 Start Menu 
arrrgg

I did try that, but the link didn't appear in the Start Menu for some reason.


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

For Pinned items on the Start Menu, you need to put the shortcut in 
%AppData%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\StartMenu
On 10 June 2011 16:43, Glen Johnson 
mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu>> wrote:
This worked for me.
Open the network folder where the app is.
Right click the app's EXE, copy.
Click the windows orb, Right click All Programs, Open.
Navigate to where you want the network app to be.
Right click and Paste Shortcut.

From: Evan Brastow 
[mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:17 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this 
list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton of 
people have had.

I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I want 
to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.  But, I 
can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start Menu" 
because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I Googled 
it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it, then create a 
new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.

Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?

Thanks,

Evan

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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Jim Mediger]

Here's how I do it:

Create a shortcut to your shortcut (Huh? - well it works) append the beginning 
with "explorer.exe" (no quotes), this shortcut is pinable to the Taskbar or 
Start Menu. Add an icon and don't forget to change the "Start in:" if needed.

JimM

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this 
list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton of 
people have had.

I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I want 
to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.  But, I 
can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start Menu" 
because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I Googled 
it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it, then create a 
new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.

Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?

Thanks,

Evan

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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Evan Brastow]

This worked! Thanks very much, Terry. Very odd way to have to do it, but it 
does work.

Thanks again,

Evan


-Original Message-
From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

I have an app that is just as bad, but here is what I did.  I copied the exe to 
the local computer, then pinned the to the start menu, or taskbar, or wherever 
you want.  Then changed the item you just pinned, and removed exe from local 
drive.  I would love to see another way because I am stuck with this app for 
the foreseeable future.

-Original Message-
From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this 
list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton of 
people have had.



I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I want 
to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.  But, I 
can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start Menu" 
because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I Googled 
it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it, then create a 
new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.



Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?



Thanks,



Evan

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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Evan Brastow]

I did try that, but the link didn't appear in the Start Menu for some reason.


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

For Pinned items on the Start Menu, you need to put the shortcut in 
%AppData%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\StartMenu
On 10 June 2011 16:43, Glen Johnson 
mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu>> wrote:
This worked for me.
Open the network folder where the app is.
Right click the app's EXE, copy.
Click the windows orb, Right click All Programs, Open.
Navigate to where you want the network app to be.
Right click and Paste Shortcut.

From: Evan Brastow 
[mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:17 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this 
list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton of 
people have had.

I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I want 
to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.  But, I 
can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start Menu" 
because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I Googled 
it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it, then create a 
new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.

Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?

Thanks,

Evan

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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Evan Brastow]

It is a shortcut over a mapped drive :)


From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

How about mapping a drive, then creating the shortcut over the mapped drive?

Don Guyer
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Enterprise Technology Group
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From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this 
list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton of 
people have had.

I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I want 
to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.  But, I 
can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start Menu" 
because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I Googled 
it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it, then create a 
new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.

Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?

Thanks,

Evan

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RE: Image Editing software

[Guyer, Don]

I was feeling old, a few minutes ago...

:p

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-Original Message-
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 7:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Image Editing software

I survived on an IBM 360/25 with no fancy "terminal" thingy to get in my
way!  Programming a punch card machine for IBM COBOL and Assembler code
is
da bomb! :)


Webster

> -Original Message-
> From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> 
> I used to live a fulfilled electronic life using a 1K ZX81
> 
> --Original Message--
> From: Michael B. Smith
> Subject: RE: Image Editing software
> Sent: 9 Jun 2011 23:45
> 
> Who needs more than 640K?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Subject: Re: Image Editing software
> 
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kennedy, Jim
>  wrote:
> > But the bottom line is Adobe imaging products just don't play well
in
> > a network environment. They still strongly recommend against editing
a
> > file on a server with Photoshop, they say copy it locally first.
> 
>   This "network" idea will never take off anyway.


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Re: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[James Rankin]

For Pinned items on the Start Menu, you need to put the shortcut in
%AppData%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\StartMenu

On 10 June 2011 16:43, Glen Johnson  wrote:

>  This worked for me.
>
> Open the network folder where the app is.
>
> Right click the app’s EXE, copy.
>
> Click the windows orb, Right click All Programs, Open.
>
> Navigate to where you want the network app to be.
>
> Right click and Paste Shortcut.
>
>
>
> *From:* Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 10, 2011 11:17 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg
>
>
>
> Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this
> list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton
> of people have had.
>
>
>
> I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I
> want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.
> But, I can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start
> Menu" because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I
> Googled it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it,
> then create a new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.
>
>
>
> Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Evan
>
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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Glen Johnson]

This worked for me.
Open the network folder where the app is.
Right click the app's EXE, copy.
Click the windows orb, Right click All Programs, Open.
Navigate to where you want the network app to be.
Right click and Paste Shortcut.

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this 
list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton of 
people have had.

I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I want 
to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.  But, I 
can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start Menu" 
because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I Googled 
it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it, then create a 
new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.

Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?

Thanks,

Evan

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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Guyer, Don]

How about mapping a drive, then creating the shortcut over the mapped
drive?

 

Don Guyer

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Enterprise Technology Group

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Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

 

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on
this list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm
sure a ton of people have had.

 

I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive.
I want to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows
7.  But, I can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin
to Start Menu" because that option is not there. The only suggestion
I've seen when I Googled it was to create a folder on the desktop with
the shortcut in it, then create a new toolbar and point it to that
folder. That's rather kludgy.

 

Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?

 

Thanks,

 

Evan

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RE: Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Terry Dickson]

I have an app that is just as bad, but here is what I did.  I copied the exe to 
the local computer, then pinned the to the start menu, or taskbar, or wherever 
you want.  Then changed the item you just pinned, and removed exe from local 
drive.  I would love to see another way because I am stuck with this app for 
the foreseeable future.

-Original Message-
From: Evan Brastow [mailto:ebras...@automatedemblem.com]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Win 7 Start Menu arrrgg

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this 
list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton of 
people have had.



I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I want 
to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.  But, I 
can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start Menu" 
because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I Googled 
it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it, then create a 
new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.



Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?



Thanks,



Evan

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Win 7 Start Menu.... arrrgghhhh

[Evan Brastow]

Okay, I've Googled this and I've searched through previous threads on this 
list, but I cannot seem to find an answer to a question that I'm sure a ton of 
people have had.

I have an app (home made in PowerBuilder) that runs off a network drive. I want 
to add the shortcut to the .exe file to the Start Menu in Windows 7.  But, I 
can't. I can't drag it. I can't right click and select "Pin to Start Menu" 
because that option is not there. The only suggestion I've seen when I Googled 
it was to create a folder on the desktop with the shortcut in it, then create a 
new toolbar and point it to that folder. That's rather kludgy.

Any way to work around this seemingly bizarre new restriction?

Thanks,

Evan

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RE: Access form password

[Matthew B Ames]

We have had the "cottage-industry" of Access applications across the company I 
work for too.  They are developed by normal staff who then leave/move on and 
then these things chug along for a bit and then start to fail and end up in my 
department for fixing.   :(

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 10 June 2011 14:56
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Access form password

Thanks everyone for all the pointers. However...I think the database is 
corrupted. It can't be repaired, you can't view the database properties, it 
throws an index error every time - and according to Google, that points to a 
database "corrupted beyond repair". Even though the users are still managing to 
utilize it. Somehow.

I think I may try to use this as the starting point for a larger project to get 
the myriad small Access databases dotted around the place consolidated into a 
single SQL-based system with proper maintenance and authentication etc.

I am so glad it's Friday afternoon :-)
On 10 June 2011 14:52, Daniel Rodriguez 
mailto:drod...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It may help if you could see the contents of the .df files. There are some free 
viewers. DBFPlus comes to mind. You may also need to convert those .dbf files. 
DBFConvert probably do the trick for you. That way you dont have to go hunting 
for an older version of Access. Then I use a hex editor to look at those forms. 
Also, I would look at any vba scripting files, if any.

But, that's me.

Typed not so frustratingly on my Dell Streak 7.
On Jun 10, 2011 9:01 AM, 
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Re: Access form password

[James Rankin]

Thanks everyone for all the pointers. However...I think the database is
corrupted. It can't be repaired, you can't view the database properties, it
throws an index error every time - and according to Google, that points to a
database "corrupted beyond repair". Even though the users are still managing
to utilize it. Somehow.

I think I may try to use this as the starting point for a larger project to
get the myriad small Access databases dotted around the place consolidated
into a single SQL-based system with proper maintenance and authentication
etc.

I am so glad it's Friday afternoon :-)

On 10 June 2011 14:52, Daniel Rodriguez  wrote:

> It may help if you could see the contents of the .df files. There are some
> free viewers. DBFPlus comes to mind. You may also need to convert those .dbf
> files. DBFConvert probably do the trick for you. That way you dont have to
> go hunting for an older version of Access. Then I use a hex editor to look
> at those forms. Also, I would look at any vba scripting files, if any.
>
> But, that's me.
>
> Typed not so frustratingly on my Dell Streak 7.
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Re: Access form password

[Daniel Rodriguez]

It may help if you could see the contents of the .df files. There are some
free viewers. DBFPlus comes to mind. You may also need to convert those .dbf
files. DBFConvert probably do the trick for you. That way you dont have to
go hunting for an older version of Access. Then I use a hex editor to look
at those forms. Also, I would look at any vba scripting files, if any.

But, that's me.

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 On Jun 10, 2011 9:01 AM,  wrote:

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Tips or Guides to doing a Video Streaming stress test

[Don Kuhlman]

Hi folks.   I have been assigned the task of doing some base tests on how video 
streaming performance behaves for several different scenarios across the lan. 
This is for users to watch training videos, etc. from their PCs.
I have looked around and found some free tools - LanSpeed Test and Qcheck from 
Ixia, that do some stuff on performance.

I also did some research on using perfmon and came up with these counters that 
may give some indication of how the machine is doing while testing:

Memory/Available MBytes
Memory/Pages Input/Sec
Network/Bytes Total/sec
Network Interface/Output Queue Length
Network Interface/Packets Received Errors
PhysicalDisk/Total/Current Disk Queue Length
PhysicalDisk/Total/Disk Bytes/Sec
Process/Total/Working Set
Processor/Total/%Processor Time
System/Processor Queue Length


Does anyone have a link or some other guidance as to whether these counters 
make 
sense or if I should be looking elsewhere?

Thanks!

Don K
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Re: Access form password

[roberto . grippi]

Get to know your enemy: do you have older records in the company that show
what passwords your developer used at that time, and in this case give you a
hint on what he might have used for your db?

Could be faster than any other (more serious) method.
My 2c.

Roberto Grippi


2011/6/10 James Rankin 

> Tried that, do File | Get External Data | Import, select the old 97 db, and
> it bombs with "operation invalid without a current index". It then offers me
> an Import Objects dialog, which is completely empty. Sounds like not only is
> this ancient, it may well be damaged or erroneous too. When I try to "Repair
> Database" from 97, it tells me there is an index problem. My day just keeps
> getting better :-(
>
>
> On 10 June 2011 13:07, Tony Patton  wrote:
>
>> Bit of a long shot, but have you tried importing everything into a new
>> database in Access 2000?
>>
>> It's been a long time since I came across this.
>>
>> T
>>
>> Typed slowly on HTC Desire
>> On 10 Jun 2011 13:02, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>> > I have, I've cleared the password for the user Admin which is the db
>> owner,
>> > yet still, when I go to convert, I get the permissions error. I hope
>> this
>> > developer hasn't done something crafty to block the conversion.
>> >
>> > On 10 June 2011 12:59, Jonathan Link  wrote:
>> >
>> >> But perhaps, under 97 you can go in and turn off all the passwords...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:56 AM, James Rankin > >wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Yes, I can open it in Access 97, but I am damned if I am sequencing up
>> an
>> >>> Office 97 app to run on our Windows 2008 R2 systems.
>> >>>
>> >>> I need to convert it to, at the very least, Access 2000 for it to be
>> in
>> >>> any way supportable, and even then it would only have to be for a
>> short
>> >>> period. Longer term we need to look to get this data put somewhere
>> >>> completely different, but that's a whole different battle.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 10 June 2011 12:46, Manuel Santos  wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Can’t you find a machine with Access 97 installed?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>>  *Sent:* sexta-feira, 10 de Junho de 2011 12:16
>>  *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>  *Subject:* Re: Access form password
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Note the use of the word "drafting"
>> 
>>  When I cool off a bit I'll probably tone it down nicely :-)
>> 
>>  I still can't get this blasted thing converted. I tried running
>> Access
>>  2000 using the command line with the /convert switch and specifying
>> the
>>  "Admin" username, but it just pops up a "Logon" box and rejects my
>>  credentials every time
>> 
>>  On 10 June 2011 12:05, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>> 
>>  Be thankful he was stuck using an older version of Access.
>> 
>>  Anyway, you're not out of the woods yet...
>> 
>>  Oh, and a snotty email isn't really going to help your cause here.
>> Rather, send out a memo that indicates that you would like a meeting to
>> discuss and uncover any other apps that are being used so you can ensure
>> that they are backed up and supportable. You won't have to make any direct
>> references to this incident, which helps people save face and makes them far
>> more likely to cooperate with you.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  *ASB *(Professional Bio )
>>  *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...*
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:17 AM, James Rankin > >
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Well I never - we have managed to dig the password out of it. The
>>  developer clearly wasn't as clever as he thought
>> 
>>  Now onto the next issue - whenever I try and open this database in a
>>  later version of Access, it tells me this
>> 
>>  [image: 3.jpg]
>>  Anyone have any ideas how to get around this bit?
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  On 10 June 2011 11:03, James Rankin  wrote:
>> 
>>  Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately that tool just, like many
>>  others, tells me the database isn't password protected. It isn't, per
>> se.
>>  You can open the database, where you are met with this
>> 
>>  [image: menu.jpg]
>> 
>>  When you fail to get the right password for admin, this appears
>> 
>>  [image: password.jpg]
>> 
>>  Needless to say, I can't get into Design view - the database just
>> closes
>>  automatically.
>> 
>>  This is very annoying, and I'm hoping the powers-that-be start taking
>>  notice of their serious lack of process and procedure which allows
>> things
>>  like this to swim up and bite me on the ass.
>> 
>>  Grrr
>> 
>>  On 10 June 2011 10:48, Manuel Santos  wrote:
>> 
>>  As far as I remember, I once had a problem like that, and wasn't able
>> to
>>  access some data on Access 97 database, an

Re: Access form password

[James Rankin]

Tried that, do File | Get External Data | Import, select the old 97 db, and
it bombs with "operation invalid without a current index". It then offers me
an Import Objects dialog, which is completely empty. Sounds like not only is
this ancient, it may well be damaged or erroneous too. When I try to "Repair
Database" from 97, it tells me there is an index problem. My day just keeps
getting better :-(

On 10 June 2011 13:07, Tony Patton  wrote:

> Bit of a long shot, but have you tried importing everything into a new
> database in Access 2000?
>
> It's been a long time since I came across this.
>
> T
>
> Typed slowly on HTC Desire
> On 10 Jun 2011 13:02, "James Rankin"  wrote:
> > I have, I've cleared the password for the user Admin which is the db
> owner,
> > yet still, when I go to convert, I get the permissions error. I hope this
> > developer hasn't done something crafty to block the conversion.
> >
> > On 10 June 2011 12:59, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> >
> >> But perhaps, under 97 you can go in and turn off all the passwords...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:56 AM, James Rankin  >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, I can open it in Access 97, but I am damned if I am sequencing up
> an
> >>> Office 97 app to run on our Windows 2008 R2 systems.
> >>>
> >>> I need to convert it to, at the very least, Access 2000 for it to be in
> >>> any way supportable, and even then it would only have to be for a short
> >>> period. Longer term we need to look to get this data put somewhere
> >>> completely different, but that's a whole different battle.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10 June 2011 12:46, Manuel Santos  wrote:
> >>>
>  Can’t you find a machine with Access 97 installed?
> 
> 
> 
>  *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
>  *Sent:* sexta-feira, 10 de Junho de 2011 12:16
>  *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>  *Subject:* Re: Access form password
> 
> 
> 
>  Note the use of the word "drafting"
> 
>  When I cool off a bit I'll probably tone it down nicely :-)
> 
>  I still can't get this blasted thing converted. I tried running Access
>  2000 using the command line with the /convert switch and specifying
> the
>  "Admin" username, but it just pops up a "Logon" box and rejects my
>  credentials every time
> 
>  On 10 June 2011 12:05, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> 
>  Be thankful he was stuck using an older version of Access.
> 
>  Anyway, you're not out of the woods yet...
> 
>  Oh, and a snotty email isn't really going to help your cause here.
> Rather, send out a memo that indicates that you would like a meeting to
> discuss and uncover any other apps that are being used so you can ensure
> that they are backed up and supportable. You won't have to make any direct
> references to this incident, which helps people save face and makes them far
> more likely to cooperate with you.
> 
> 
> 
>  *ASB *(Professional Bio )
>  *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...*
>
> 
> 
> 
>  On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:17 AM, James Rankin 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Well I never - we have managed to dig the password out of it. The
>  developer clearly wasn't as clever as he thought
> 
>  Now onto the next issue - whenever I try and open this database in a
>  later version of Access, it tells me this
> 
>  [image: 3.jpg]
>  Anyone have any ideas how to get around this bit?
> 
>  Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
>  On 10 June 2011 11:03, James Rankin  wrote:
> 
>  Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately that tool just, like many
>  others, tells me the database isn't password protected. It isn't, per
> se.
>  You can open the database, where you are met with this
> 
>  [image: menu.jpg]
> 
>  When you fail to get the right password for admin, this appears
> 
>  [image: password.jpg]
> 
>  Needless to say, I can't get into Design view - the database just
> closes
>  automatically.
> 
>  This is very annoying, and I'm hoping the powers-that-be start taking
>  notice of their serious lack of process and procedure which allows
> things
>  like this to swim up and bite me on the ass.
> 
>  Grrr
> 
>  On 10 June 2011 10:48, Manuel Santos  wrote:
> 
>  As far as I remember, I once had a problem like that, and wasn't able
> to
>  access some data on Access 97 database, and I used a tool to crack the
>  password: http://www.rixler.com/eng/access_password_recovery.htm
> 
> 
> 
>  2011/6/10 James Rankin 
> 
>  Another day, another episode of "I can't believe this has been allowed
> to
>  happen" - yet here I am.
> 
>  We have a department that (unknown to me until today) are reliant on a
>  database that was built (and still runs in!) Access 97. Yes, you heard
> me
>  right.

Re: Access form password

[Tony Patton]

Bit of a long shot, but have you tried importing everything into a new
database in Access 2000?

It's been a long time since I came across this.

T

Typed slowly on HTC Desire
On 10 Jun 2011 13:02, "James Rankin"  wrote:
> I have, I've cleared the password for the user Admin which is the db
owner,
> yet still, when I go to convert, I get the permissions error. I hope this
> developer hasn't done something crafty to block the conversion.
>
> On 10 June 2011 12:59, Jonathan Link  wrote:
>
>> But perhaps, under 97 you can go in and turn off all the passwords...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:56 AM, James Rankin wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I can open it in Access 97, but I am damned if I am sequencing up
an
>>> Office 97 app to run on our Windows 2008 R2 systems.
>>>
>>> I need to convert it to, at the very least, Access 2000 for it to be in
>>> any way supportable, and even then it would only have to be for a short
>>> period. Longer term we need to look to get this data put somewhere
>>> completely different, but that's a whole different battle.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10 June 2011 12:46, Manuel Santos  wrote:
>>>
 Can’t you find a machine with Access 97 installed?



 *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 *Sent:* sexta-feira, 10 de Junho de 2011 12:16
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Access form password



 Note the use of the word "drafting"

 When I cool off a bit I'll probably tone it down nicely :-)

 I still can't get this blasted thing converted. I tried running Access
 2000 using the command line with the /convert switch and specifying the
 "Admin" username, but it just pops up a "Logon" box and rejects my
 credentials every time

 On 10 June 2011 12:05, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

 Be thankful he was stuck using an older version of Access.

 Anyway, you're not out of the woods yet...

 Oh, and a snotty email isn't really going to help your cause here.
Rather, send out a memo that indicates that you would like a meeting to
discuss and uncover any other apps that are being used so you can ensure
that they are backed up and supportable. You won't have to make any direct
references to this incident, which helps people save face and makes them far
more likely to cooperate with you.



 *ASB *(Professional Bio )
 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...*



 On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:17 AM, James Rankin 
 wrote:

 Well I never - we have managed to dig the password out of it. The
 developer clearly wasn't as clever as he thought

 Now onto the next issue - whenever I try and open this database in a
 later version of Access, it tells me this

 [image: 3.jpg]
 Anyone have any ideas how to get around this bit?

 Cheers,



 On 10 June 2011 11:03, James Rankin  wrote:

 Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately that tool just, like many
 others, tells me the database isn't password protected. It isn't, per
se.
 You can open the database, where you are met with this

 [image: menu.jpg]

 When you fail to get the right password for admin, this appears

 [image: password.jpg]

 Needless to say, I can't get into Design view - the database just
closes
 automatically.

 This is very annoying, and I'm hoping the powers-that-be start taking
 notice of their serious lack of process and procedure which allows
things
 like this to swim up and bite me on the ass.

 Grrr

 On 10 June 2011 10:48, Manuel Santos  wrote:

 As far as I remember, I once had a problem like that, and wasn't able
to
 access some data on Access 97 database, and I used a tool to crack the
 password: http://www.rixler.com/eng/access_password_recovery.htm



 2011/6/10 James Rankin 

 Another day, another episode of "I can't believe this has been allowed
to
 happen" - yet here I am.

 We have a department that (unknown to me until today) are reliant on a
 database that was built (and still runs in!) Access 97. Yes, you heard
me
 right. I mean, it only went out of extended support in February 2002,
what's
 nearly ten years of unsupported software between friends?

 However (the plot thickens) it was built and maintained by a developer
 who has now left the company. And it needs some administration doing to
it.
 And it turns out that the form to administer the database is
 password-protected. And not surprisingly, as with all problems that
seem to
 have defeated everyone else, it is now sitting in my lap. The developer
 can't be contacted - believe me, short of commissioning a private
 investigator, I have tried all I can.

 The question is - does anyone know any way I could reveal or reset the

Re: RE: RE: windows 7 forensics

[Andrew S. Baker]

>>I don't know if write blocking devices for USB flash drives exist on the
market, but technologically there's no reason they couldn't.

Yes, they do.

http://www.siliconforensics.com/ps-135-2-read-only-write-protect-usb-media-card-reader.aspx


*ASB *(Professional Bio )
Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...




On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Jonathan  wrote:
> >> ... avoid MS Windows, as it has a tendency to want to write to
> >> the disk ... Me, I'd boot a rescue Linux system ... devices that
> >> plug between the hard drive and the host adapter, and block all write
> >> commands ...
> >
> > Next question - what about USB flash drive forensics?
>
>   Basically the same.  Make an image.  Make sure nothing writes to the
> original.  I don't know if write blocking devices for USB flash drives
> exist on the market, but technologically there's no reason they
> couldn't.
>
> -- Ben
>
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Re: RE: RE: windows 7 forensics

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Jonathan  wrote:
>> ... avoid MS Windows, as it has a tendency to want to write to
>> the disk ... Me, I'd boot a rescue Linux system ... devices that
>> plug between the hard drive and the host adapter, and block all write
>> commands ...
>
> Next question - what about USB flash drive forensics?

  Basically the same.  Make an image.  Make sure nothing writes to the
original.  I don't know if write blocking devices for USB flash drives
exist on the market, but technologically there's no reason they
couldn't.

-- Ben

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RE: Object auditing event overload

[Ziots, Edward]

Also Randy Franklin Smiths Security Blog has a lot of information on
what should and shouldn't be audited in Windows 2008/R2 and reasoning
and how to do it. Was what I utilized along with the Windows 2008
Security Resource Kit for Auditing documentation. 

 

The links I utilized are below: I am happy to forward a copy of the
document I came up with to help others where there documentation, just
email me offline and I will send you a copy if you wish. 

 

Advanced Security Policy Settings:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd772712(WS.10).aspx

Auditpol Command Reference:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731451(WS.10).aspx

Ultimately Windows Security Eventlog Event ID's (Randy Franklin Smiths
Site) (Highly Recommended)

http://www.ultimatewindowssecurity.com/securitylog/encyclopedia/default.
aspx

Auditing and Compliance in Windows Server 2008

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2008.03.auditing.aspx

 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Object auditing event overload

 

I did, got it sorted with the follow-up mails I posted

Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry(r) wireless device



From: Miller Bonnie L.  

Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:15:24 -0700

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: Object auditing event overload

 

Do you have success logging turned on for the firewall? (Control panel,
admin, Windows firewall..., properties of the top node...)

 



From: James Rankin [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Object auditing event overload

Anyone have any idea why, when I turn on "audit object access" on my
Windows 2008 R2 servers, my security logs get swamped with event id 5156
"the Windows Filtering Platform has permitted a connection"? I found a
reference to turning off audit subcategories by using this command -
auditpol /set /subcategory:"Filtering Platform Connection" /success:
disable /failure: disable - but that only works for plain 2008, not 2008
R2. Anyone know how to get around this, or what command I could use to
disable it?


TIA,




JRR

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Re: Access form password

[Manuel Santos]

As far as I remember, I once had a problem like that, and wasn't able to
access  some data on Access 97 database, and I used a tool to crack the
password: http://www.rixler.com/eng/access_password_recovery.htm

2011/6/10 James Rankin 

> Another day, another episode of "I can't believe this has been allowed to
> happen" - yet here I am.
>
> We have a department that (unknown to me until today) are reliant on a
> database that was built (and still runs in!) Access 97. Yes, you heard me
> right. I mean, it only went out of extended support in February 2002, what's
> nearly ten years of unsupported software between friends?
>
> However (the plot thickens) it was built and maintained by a developer who
> has now left the company. And it needs some administration doing to it. And
> it turns out that the form to administer the database is password-protected.
> And not surprisingly, as with all problems that seem to have defeated
> everyone else, it is now sitting in my lap. The developer can't be contacted
> - believe me, short of commissioning a private investigator, I have tried
> all I can.
>
> The question is - does anyone know any way I could reveal or reset the
> password that is protecting the admin form? It's that long since I used any
> form of Access (never mind a 14-year old version of it!) that I am
> completely clueless here.
>
> I'm already drafting up a snotty email to go to the business heads here
> about the importance of migrating their critical data onto supported
> platforms, so hopefully something like this should never happen again (yes,
> it probably will, though). But if anyone can think of any way I can get
> inside the guts of this ancient database, I sure would be grateful.
>
>
> TIA,
>
>
>
> JRR
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
> *IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
> are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters
> like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They
> will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
> other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
> knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and
> wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
> boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
> cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
> way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
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Access form password

[James Rankin]

Another day, another episode of "I can't believe this has been allowed to
happen" - yet here I am.

We have a department that (unknown to me until today) are reliant on a
database that was built (and still runs in!) Access 97. Yes, you heard me
right. I mean, it only went out of extended support in February 2002, what's
nearly ten years of unsupported software between friends?

However (the plot thickens) it was built and maintained by a developer who
has now left the company. And it needs some administration doing to it. And
it turns out that the form to administer the database is password-protected.
And not surprisingly, as with all problems that seem to have defeated
everyone else, it is now sitting in my lap. The developer can't be contacted
- believe me, short of commissioning a private investigator, I have tried
all I can.

The question is - does anyone know any way I could reveal or reset the
password that is protecting the admin form? It's that long since I used any
form of Access (never mind a 14-year old version of it!) that I am
completely clueless here.

I'm already drafting up a snotty email to go to the business heads here
about the importance of migrating their critical data onto supported
platforms, so hopefully something like this should never happen again (yes,
it probably will, though). But if anyone can think of any way I can get
inside the guts of this ancient database, I sure would be grateful.


TIA,



JRR

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

*IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents
are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters
like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They
will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with
other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie
knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and
wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes
boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone
cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any
way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit
more temperamental.*

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