RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

[Ken Schaefer]

Yes - I agree with what you're saying below. When HP did acquire Palm, the 
world wasn't dominated by Android/iOS (well, iOS was pretty big). So, if the 
execution was right, there was still an opportunity. The problem was the 
execution.

Anyway, all things start from somewhere: Android started from nothing too.

That said, I'm not hopeful about WebOS - certainly not as a mass market 
consumer tablet product. Maybe they'll find some niche areas to sell it into.

Cheers
Ken

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 7:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

As I understand it, the only reason for acquiring Palm was to get WebOS.  Then 
they screwed up by waiting too long to enter the market with a product that was 
not ready and lacked app support.

As to the future of WebOS, who else would want it?  The HP failure is a major 
black mark, whether earned or not, whether the OS is superior or not.  The name 
of the game is apps.  Without developer support and a large catalog of apps, 
buyers won't pay a competitive price for a device that may be slightly better 
in ways most users won't notice.  I wonder how Playbook sales are doing at 
Blackberry and whether it can survive, for the same reasons.

Carl


From: Ken Schaefer 
[mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

They inherited this as part of the Palm acquisition. WebOS used to get quite 
good reviews...

From: Carl Houseman 
[mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

You shouldn't expect highly paid executives to understand such an obvious 
potential (non) future for a product before it falls flat on its face in the 
market.

Think anyone will get fired as a result?  Unlikely.

From: N Parr 
[mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

I never understood why in a market dominated by Apple and Google they decided 
to create a new tablet/phone OS?


From: Mike Sullivan 
[mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)
HP is discontinuing their WebOS operations and going to spin off their PC Unit. 
I'd say they are having some issues. 
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/hp-punts-on-webos-discontinues-touchpad-cuts-outlook/55386?tag=nl.e589
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:49 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
+1  I have a client with two LJ 4's that are still going.

Please don't say it's going to the Procurve side, I am just moving clients to 
them (HP1810G series)

Dave

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RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

[Ken Schaefer]

1) There's a vast amount of capital tied up in that division - capital that 
could be spent on more profitable opportunities
2) By giving shareholders one share in "HP PC Group" plus one share in "The 
rest of HP" then those shareholders that don't want to have their money tied up 
in a company making commodity desktops can sell out, whilst still having a bet 
on the rest of the product lineup
3) Whilst PSG might be profitable now, I personally see the margins just 
getting squeezed to the point where it won't be profitable. IBM did the right 
thing by getting out (IMHO). Dell's going nowhere with their PC business - 
they're trying to find other markets. 
4) I don't live in America, so if I was a shareholder, I really wouldn't care 
about the "something's wrong with America" thing - I'm trying to decide whether 
I should put my money in HP or Google or... . So HP's got to 
respect the fact that the owners have choices on where to put their money

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 8:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> It makes lots of revenue, but very little money.  PSG has ~5% margin, 
> which will probably only fall further in the future.

  5% of money is still money.  5% of a very large amount of money is still a 
large amount of money.  Again, I don't get it.  Not the math, not the buzzwords 
-- what I don't get is the *mindset*.  "It's our largest product line.  It's 
profitable.  Get rid of it!"  I suspect this is one of those "There's something 
wrong with America" issues.
Our priorities are all jacked up.

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Re: HP going out

[Silvio L. Nisgoski]

My biggest complain about them were those proprietary memory sticks that 
wouldn´t sit right in the slots. Too much temperature variation, and we got 
a bunch of machines not booting and needing the ram to be reseated... still 
have two of those here, do not know what to do with them ...



- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Olson" 

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: HP going out


Kayaks! +100
I also had the pleasure of having to support SGI 320 and 540 Visual 
workstations.
What a disaster they were. SGI built them for windows 2k only to get delayed 
(by MS) and they had to hack up drivers for NT to run them.
We had so many issues,(everything in them was priority except the hard 
drive, and cd-rom) in the end SGI literally sent us 20 of each to keep on 
the shelf for parts at no cost, then the next week pretty much closed that 
whole line down.

I still have one 540 setup at new %work% as a conversation piece.



-Original Message-
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP going out

Oh gateway  *censored, censored, censored*

I remember that endless loop as well.

Then they company decided on HP Kayaks.Now that was an adventure in 
installation..




-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP going out

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:44 PM, C.E. Gene Connor  
wrote:

Will the new buyer have to stand behind what we are now getting from HP ??


 I think that will depend on how things go down.  One hopes HP will want 
their customers taken care of.


 Before I started at %WORK%, they were buying Gateway PCs.  I put a stop to 
that as soon as I could, but there were plenty around I still had to 
support.  Then Gateway sold their business PC division to MPC.
The warranties and support contracts basically evaporated.  MPC said call 
Gateway, Gateway said call MPC, I got nothing.


 Shockingly, that division soon went out of business.  It's almost like 
their customers didn't trust them anymore.  Whodathunkit?


-- Ben

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RE: Why not failwords?

[Steven M. Caesare]

"You had me at 1993."

 

-sc

 

On Friday, August 19, 2011, Crawford, Scott 
wrote:
> Hello spoiler
>
>  
>
> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
>
>  
>
> Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)
>
>  - WJR
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich
 wrote:
>
> Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password
are really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
>
>
>
> From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
>
> I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.
>
> From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Why not failwords?
>
> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack
passwords (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson's
analysis of why long passwords are harder to brute force crack than
shorter complex ones. But, I wonder...
>
> Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords
associated with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access
and is as hard to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then
another password that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some
event? Here are a few scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the
failword. Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries
your failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a
text message on your cell phone.
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it
gets locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours
expire, etc.
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can't think of any...
>
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Re: Why not failwords?

[Jonathan Link]

FTFY

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:19 PM, William Robbins wrote:

> I was spoiled long before that movie.
>
> - WJR
>
>
> On Friday, August 19, 2011, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
> > Hello spoiler
> >
> >
> >
> > From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)
> >
> >  - WJR
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are
> really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
> >
> > I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.
> >
> > From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > Subject: Why not failwords?
> >
> > I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
> (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
> long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
> But, I wonder…
> >
> > Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords
> associated with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and
> is as hard to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another
> password that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are
> a few scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
> >
> > [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
> Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
> > [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
> failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
> on your cell phone.
> > [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
> locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
> >
> > Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…
> >
> > Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane
> Aerospace & Electronics
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RE: Why not failwords?

[Crawford, Scott]

:) nice

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?

That movie was spoiled long before me.

- WJR

On Friday, August 19, 2011, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
> Hello spoiler
>
>
>
> From: William Robbins 
> [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
>
>
>
> Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)
>
>  - WJR
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich 
> mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
>
> Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are 
> really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
>
>
>
> From: James Hill 
> [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
>
> I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.
>
> From: Hilderbrand, Doug 
> [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Why not failwords?
>
> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords 
> (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson's analysis of why 
> long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones. 
> But, I wonder...
>
> Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated 
> with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard 
> to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password 
> that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few 
> scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword. Opens 
> the vault and rings the silent alarm.
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your 
> failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message 
> on your cell phone.
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets 
> locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can't think of any...
>
> Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane Aerospace 
> & Electronics
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Re: Why not failwords?

[William Robbins]

That movie was spoiled long before me.

- WJR

On Friday, August 19, 2011, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
> Hello spoiler
>
>
>
> From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
>
>
>
> Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)
>
>  - WJR
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich 
wrote:
>
> Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are
really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
>
>
>
> From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
>
> I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.
>
> From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Why not failwords?
>
> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
(Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
But, I wonder…
>
> Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated
with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard
to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password
that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few
scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
on your cell phone.
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…
>
> Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane
Aerospace & Electronics
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RE: HP going out

[Greg Olson]

Kayaks! +100 
I also had the pleasure of having to support SGI 320 and 540 Visual 
workstations. 
What a disaster they were. SGI built them for windows 2k only to get delayed 
(by MS) and they had to hack up drivers for NT to run them. 
We had so many issues,(everything in them was priority except the hard drive, 
and cd-rom) in the end SGI literally sent us 20 of each to keep on the shelf 
for parts at no cost, then the next week pretty much closed that whole line 
down. 
I still have one 540 setup at new %work% as a conversation piece.



-Original Message-
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: HP going out

Oh gateway  *censored, censored, censored*

I remember that endless loop as well.

Then they company decided on HP Kayaks.Now that was an adventure in 
installation..



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP going out

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:44 PM, C.E. Gene Connor  wrote:
> Will the new buyer have to stand behind what we are now getting from HP ??

  I think that will depend on how things go down.  One hopes HP will want their 
customers taken care of.

  Before I started at %WORK%, they were buying Gateway PCs.  I put a stop to 
that as soon as I could, but there were plenty around I still had to support.  
Then Gateway sold their business PC division to MPC.
The warranties and support contracts basically evaporated.  MPC said call 
Gateway, Gateway said call MPC, I got nothing.

  Shockingly, that division soon went out of business.  It's almost like their 
customers didn't trust them anymore.  Whodathunkit?

-- Ben

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Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Jonathan Link]

Not following hockey, generally, but being familiar with it, my first
question is: How many concussions has he had?

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> Not that old…
>
> ** **
>
> Must be more to this than they’re reporting.
>
> ** **
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 2:43 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
> ** **
>
> Speaking of hockey, Chris Drury retired today...still young I thought?
>
> Sent from my FriPad
>
>
> On 2011-08-19, at 1:17 PM, "Guyer, Don"  wrote:
>
> I like their new unis.
>
>  
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
>  
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 2:14 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> It's Jets season...Winnipeg, not NY.
>
> Sent from my FriPad
>
>
> On 2011-08-19, at 1:00 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
>
> "I’m waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that’s my real passion."**
> **
>
>  
>
> +1000 to that! Go Rangers.
>
>  
>
> -Sean
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:*
> ***
>
> Guess Vick will be coming to you guys within the next few years, after he
> doesn’t produce a SB win.
>
>  
>
> J
>
>  
>
> I’m waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that’s my real passion.
>
>  
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> 
>
>  
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM 
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania 
>
>  
>
> Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?
>
>  
>
> This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like
> we take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to
> Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do
> that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
>
> Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
> should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:*
> ***
>
> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even though
> it’s only preseason.
>
>  
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> 
>
>  
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side
> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
>
>  
>
> Z
>
>  
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Security Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
>  
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
> barely spell the state! J
>
>  
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> LOL!
>
>  
>
> Here’s your sign…
>
>  
>
> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for mat

Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Steve Ens]

Speaking of hockey, Chris Drury retired today...still young I thought?

Sent from my FriPad

On 2011-08-19, at 1:17 PM, "Guyer, Don"  wrote:

> I like their new unis.
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Windows Systems Engineer
> 
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
> 
> Enterprise Technology Group
> 
> Fiserv
> 
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> 
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> 
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> 
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 2:14 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> It's Jets season...Winnipeg, not NY.
> 
> Sent from my FriPad
> 
> 
> On 2011-08-19, at 1:00 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:
> 
> "I’m waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that’s my real passion."
> 
>  
> 
> +1000 to that! Go Rangers.
> 
>  
> 
> -Sean
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> Guess Vick will be coming to you guys within the next few years, after he 
> doesn’t produce a SB win.
> 
>  
> 
> J
> 
>  
> 
> I’m waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that’s my real passion.
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Windows Systems Engineer
> 
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
> 
> Enterprise Technology Group
> 
> Fiserv
> 
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> 
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> 
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> 
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM
> 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> 
> Subject: Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?
> 
>  
> 
> This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like we 
> take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to 
> Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do 
> that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
> 
> Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings should 
> have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even though 
> it’s only preseason.
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Windows Systems Engineer
> 
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
> 
> Enterprise Technology Group
> 
> Fiserv
> 
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> 
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> 
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> 
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
> 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> 
> Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side 
> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
> 
>  
> 
> Z
> 
>  
> 
> Edward E. Ziots
> 
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
> 
> Security Engineer
> 
> Lifespan Organization
> 
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
> 
> Cell:401-639-3505
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can barely 
> spell the state! J
> 
>  
> 
> Carl Webster
> 
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
> 
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> LOL!
> 
>  
> 
> Here’s your sign…
> 
>  
> 
> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!
> 
>  
> 
> J
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Windows Systems Engineer
> 
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
> 
> Enterprise Technology Group
> 
> Fiserv
> 
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> 
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> 
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> 
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be 
> interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will 
> have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp 
> 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here 
> in Bethlehem PA.
> 
> Carl Webster
> 
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
> 
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Looking for Position
> 
>  
> 

Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Steve Ens]

It's Jets season...Winnipeg, not NY.

Sent from my FriPad

On 2011-08-19, at 1:00 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:

> "I’m waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that’s my real passion."
>  
> +1000 to that! Go Rangers.
>  
> 
> -Sean
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> Guess Vick will be coming to you guys within the next few years, after he 
> doesn’t produce a SB win.
> 
>  
> 
> J
> 
>  
> 
> I’m waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that’s my real passion.
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Windows Systems Engineer
> 
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
> 
> Enterprise Technology Group
> 
> Fiserv
> 
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> 
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> 
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> 
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM
> 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>  
> 
> Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?
> 
>  
> 
> This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like we 
> take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to 
> Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do 
> that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
> 
> Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings should 
> have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
> 
> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even though 
> it’s only preseason.
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Windows Systems Engineer
> 
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
> 
> Enterprise Technology Group
> 
> Fiserv
> 
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> 
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> 
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> 
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
> 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> 
> Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side 
> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
> 
>  
> 
> Z
> 
>  
> 
> Edward E. Ziots
> 
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
> 
> Security Engineer
> 
> Lifespan Organization
> 
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
> 
> Cell:401-639-3505
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can barely 
> spell the state! J
> 
>  
> 
> Carl Webster
> 
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
> 
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> LOL!
> 
>  
> 
> Here’s your sign…
> 
>  
> 
> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!
> 
>  
> 
> J
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Windows Systems Engineer
> 
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
> 
> Enterprise Technology Group
> 
> Fiserv
> 
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> 
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> 
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> 
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
> 
>  
> 
> Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.
> 
>  
> 
> If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be 
> interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will 
> have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp 
> 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here 
> in Bethlehem PA.
> 
> Carl Webster
> 
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
> 
> http://www.CarlWebster.com
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Looking for Position
> 
>  
> 
> Everyone,
> 
>  
> 
> I was just notified that my position will be cut, effective 
> the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the Southeastern 
> area of PA, please contact me offline at don.gu...@comcast.net.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Don Guyer
> 
> Windows Systems Engineer
> 
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
> 
> Enterprise Technology Group
> 
> Fiserv
> 
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
> 
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
> 
> Fax: 610-233-0404
> 
> www.fiserv.com
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ 

Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Sean Martin]

"I’m waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that’s my real passion."

+1000 to that! Go Rangers.


-Sean


On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

>  Guess Vick will be coming to you guys within the next few years, after he
> doesn’t produce a SB win.
>
> ** **
>
> J
>
> ** **
>
> I’m waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that’s my real passion.
>
> ** **
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>   ** **
>
> Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?
>
>  
>
> This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like
> we take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to
> Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do
> that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
>
> Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
> should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:*
> ***
>
> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even though
> it’s only preseason.
>
>  
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
>  
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side
> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
>
>  
>
> Z
>
>  
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Security Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
> [image: CISSP_logo]
>
>  
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
> barely spell the state! J
>
>  
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> LOL!
>
>  
>
> Here’s your sign…
>
>  
>
> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!**
> **
>
>  
>
> J
>
>  
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
>  
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.
>
>  
>
> If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
> interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will
> have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp
> 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here
> in Bethlehem PA. 
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
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>
>  
>
> Everyone,
>
>  
>
> I was just notified that my position will be cut, effective
> the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the Southeastern
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RE: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

[Ben Serebin]

Hello All,

My comment on new VMware pricing…. if you knew me, you would 
know I’m a BIG proponent of ESXi for ease of deployment, stability, & features. 
But, after heavily working with Hyper-V R2 “Core” in a 2 node cluster config 
for about a year (recently expanded to 3 node), I’m willing to bet vSphere 5 
will cause more harm than good. Danger for VMware is around the corner with 
next version of Hyper-V since it comes with async off-site replication for free 
among other features. VMware is in BIG trouble. Yes, Hyper-V takes a LOT longer 
on setup, but Hyper-V is still cheaper (labor + software) vs the crazy new v5 
pricing (& even v4 pricing – software + labor). In light of this VMware price 
gouging (aka vTax), I’ll start to push clients to Hyper-V if they need 
clustering.

Microsoft details features in next version of Hyper-V
http://blogs.technet.com/b/virtualization/archive/2011/08/01/beware-the-vmware-memory-vtax-plus-good-news-for-hyper-v.aspx

-Ben

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From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update

My post didn't mean to suggest or infer any deficiencies in VMware's QA 
process. And VMware doesn't necessarily need to be deficient when releasing an 
update after GA which may address added functionality that was either left off 
or not exactly "ready" for RTM. Because I won't deploy a GA release has 
everything to do with my past experience with vSphere 4.0 GA and the breadth of 
updates/changes/fixes/enhancements available when U1 became available.  I speak 
from my own standards and will, more oft than not, wait for Update 1 before I 
seriously plan for vSphere 5. This doesn't apply to just installing vSphere 5 
and getting familiar with some core nuances and functionality. This also 
doesn't apply or need to make sense to everyone, it's just my own perspective 
based on my own technical experiences with VMware.

There was also nothing specifically stated that they wouldn't go straight to 
production either. [cid:image001.png@01CC5E73.08DA3570] Semantics really, but 
my inference was guided towards the the time it sometimes take to deploy a 
fully prepared lab environment (in some cases) vs the time it would take for 
VMware to release update 1.

I would imagine most deployment approaches will always be governed by the 
organizations you're dealing with. And if org X wants to make the move, then 
the better business practice would behoove you to move forward while preparing 
the org with as much information as possible. If after the knowledge exchange 
is done and you and the org are comfortable with a GA release of vSphere 5, 
well then rock-n-roll.

And for the record, I'm pretty sure the GA of vSphere 5 is more than production 
"ready". I just apply my own standard, based on my own experiences.






On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Even accounting for the number of changes that might be found in a GA release, 
do you have any specific experiences you can cite that would lead you to 
believe that VMWare will have been that much more deficient in the QA processes 
of 5.0 vs 5.0.1?   Or, are you simply adhering to some standard process that 
you feel works for you?

Like I suggested earlier, I prefer to tailor my deployment approach to the 
specific of the products and organizations that I'm dealing with.

Given that there was nothing in Martin's post which specifically suggested a 
production deployment sans testing, I'm rather intrigued that you would infer 
such.

ASB

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On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Harry Singh 
mailto:hbo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
No crime of negligence would be committed if you apply this process to a lab 
environment or pilot deployment, absolutely.  But, there are some cases, in my 
experience, where either preparing your lab environment for the right amount of 
compatibility prerequisites or allocating enough resources and time to a lab 
environment become time consuming or considerably drawn out. That being said, 
considering VMware isn't considerably slow to release their first update to 
their GA products, in my opinion, it would take a strong business (read: 
financial, compliance) requirement not to wait and deploy their updated product 
in my lab environment or pilot deployment. But again, that's my opinion for 
this particular vendor, which in my environment is the "mothership".  
Notw

RE: HP going out

[Mathew Shember]

Oh gateway  *censored, censored, censored*

I remember that endless loop as well.

Then they company decided on HP Kayaks.Now that was an adventure in 
installation..



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: HP going out

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:44 PM, C.E. Gene Connor  wrote:
> Will the new buyer have to stand behind what we are now getting from HP ??

  I think that will depend on how things go down.  One hopes HP will want their 
customers taken care of.

  Before I started at %WORK%, they were buying Gateway PCs.  I put a stop to 
that as soon as I could, but there were plenty around I still had to support.  
Then Gateway sold their business PC division to MPC.
The warranties and support contracts basically evaporated.  MPC said call 
Gateway, Gateway said call MPC, I got nothing.

  Shockingly, that division soon went out of business.  It's almost like their 
customers didn't trust them anymore.  Whodathunkit?

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Re: HP going out

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:44 PM, C.E. Gene Connor  wrote:
> Will the new buyer have to stand behind what we are now getting from HP ??

  I think that will depend on how things go down.  One hopes HP will
want their customers taken care of.

  Before I started at %WORK%, they were buying Gateway PCs.  I put a
stop to that as soon as I could, but there were plenty around I still
had to support.  Then Gateway sold their business PC division to MPC.
The warranties and support contracts basically evaporated.  MPC said
call Gateway, Gateway said call MPC, I got nothing.

  Shockingly, that division soon went out of business.  It's almost
like their customers didn't trust them anymore.  Whodathunkit?

-- Ben

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Re: HP going out

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Mathew Shember
 wrote:
> Old HP tended to honor stuff for life.    I know they were patching Apollo
> long after it was dead.    I remember installing a patch 10 or so years
> ago……..

  New HP, in contrast, sometimes doesn't honor warranties within the
terms of the warranty.

  For example, it's a major battle to get them to honor the warranty
on a defective print cartridge, if the printer is out of warranty.

  In contrast, their ProCurve division will overnight you a new switch
for a firmware problem, "just in case".

-- Ben

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RE: HP going out

[Eldridge, Dave]

All I would say is look at what happened when ibm sold their pc business
to Lenovo. Without googling, what were the issues then that people were
afraid of? Did Lenovo acquire the warranty business also or did someone
else purchase that?

Way back when I had a Compaq computer that required service and I
remember calling HP for it.

 

From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: HP going out

 

Sorry if this is ot or ??

 

I just heard this on cnn and searched the net for more info on the news
of this. My question to you all for I know a lot of you all as I do "all
my laptops,desktops etc. are HP's"  What will become of mine and your
support and warrenties. I still have over 3 years on some of my laptops.

 

My question to you all is. Since I'm just a little guy, compaired to
some of the bigger corps you all are connected to and have 100's or
1000's of their products etc. 

 

Will the new buyer have to stand behind what we are now getting from HP
??

 

info.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/18/technology/hp_pc_spinoff/index.htm?sourc
e=cnn_bin&hpt=hp_bn3

 

http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2011/08/19/247670/HP-announces-ma
jor-shake-up-ditches-WebOS-and-PCs-buys-Autonomy-for.htm

 

http://lifehacker.com/5832333/hp-shutting-down-operations-for-touchpad-a
nd-webos-phones

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Re: Why not failwords?

[Jonathan Link]

That was IRL.
His end in Demolition Man was not so serene...

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  J I know, I’m just foolin’ around.  As if it’s major plot point anyway.
> As if I could recall the major plot points….Didn’t Wesley Snipes end up in
> jail in the end…or was that real life?
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:20 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Why not failwords?
>
> ** **
>
> Wow, it's a nearly 20 year old film.  Presumably if one hasn't seen it, one
> isn't interested in it, at this point.
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Crawford, Scott 
> wrote:
>
> Hello spoiler
>
>  
>
> *From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Why not failwords?
>
>  
>
> Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)
>
>  - WJR
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich 
> wrote:
>
> Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are
> really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
>
>
>
> From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
>
>
> I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.
>
> From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Why not failwords?
>
>
> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
> (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
> long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
> But, I wonder…
>
> Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated
> with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard
> to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password
> that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few
> scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
> Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
> failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
> on your cell phone.
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
> locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…
>
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RE: Why not failwords?

[Crawford, Scott]

:) I know, I'm just foolin' around.  As if it's major plot point anyway. As if 
I could recall the major plot pointsDidn't Wesley Snipes end up in jail in 
the end...or was that real life?

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?

Wow, it's a nearly 20 year old film.  Presumably if one hasn't seen it, one 
isn't interested in it, at this point.
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
Hello spoiler

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?

Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)

 - WJR
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are 
really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.



From: James Hill 
[mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not failwords?

I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.

From: Hilderbrand, Doug 
[mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Why not failwords?

I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords 
(Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson's analysis of why 
long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones. But, 
I wonder...

Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated with 
your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard to crack 
as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password that would be 
easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few scenarios I can 
think of off the top of my head:

[] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword. Opens 
the vault and rings the silent alarm.
[] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your 
failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message on 
your cell phone.
[] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets 
locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.

Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can't think of any...

Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane Aerospace & 
Electronics

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Re: Why not failwords?

[Jonathan Link]

Wow, it's a nearly 20 year old film.  Presumably if one hasn't seen it, one
isn't interested in it, at this point.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  Hello spoiler
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Why not failwords?
>
> ** **
>
> Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)
>
>  - WJR
>
> 
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich 
> wrote:
>
> Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are
> really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
>
>
>
> From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
>
>
> I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.
>
> From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Why not failwords?
>
>
> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
> (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
> long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
> But, I wonder…
>
> Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated
> with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard
> to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password
> that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few
> scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
> Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
> failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
> on your cell phone.
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
> locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…
>
> Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane
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Re: Why not failwords?

[Jonathan Link]

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  Hello spoiler
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Why not failwords?
>
> ** **
>
> Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)
>
>  - WJR
>
> 
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich 
> wrote:
>
> Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are
> really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
>
>
>
> From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
>
>
> I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.
>
> From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Why not failwords?
>
>
> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
> (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
> long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
> But, I wonder…
>
> Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated
> with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard
> to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password
> that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few
> scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
> Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
> failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
> on your cell phone.
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
> locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…
>
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RE: Why not failwords?

[Kim Longenbaugh]

Or in that Tom Cruse movie where he killed a guy and ripped his eyeball out to 
get through a retina scanner

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?

Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)

 - WJR

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are 
really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.



From: James Hill 
[mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not failwords?

I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.

From: Hilderbrand, Doug 
[mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Why not failwords?

I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords 
(Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson's analysis of why 
long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones. But, 
I wonder...

Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated with 
your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard to crack 
as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password that would be 
easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few scenarios I can 
think of off the top of my head:

[] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword. Opens 
the vault and rings the silent alarm.
[] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your 
failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message on 
your cell phone.
[] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets 
locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.

Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can't think of any...

Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane Aerospace & 
Electronics

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RE: Why not failwords?

[Crawford, Scott]

Hello spoiler

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?

Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)

 - WJR

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich 
mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>> wrote:
Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are 
really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.



From: James Hill 
[mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not failwords?

I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.

From: Hilderbrand, Doug 
[mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Why not failwords?

I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords 
(Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson's analysis of why 
long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones. But, 
I wonder...

Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated with 
your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard to crack 
as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password that would be 
easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few scenarios I can 
think of off the top of my head:

[] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword. Opens 
the vault and rings the silent alarm.
[] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your 
failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message on 
your cell phone.
[] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets 
locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.

Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can't think of any...

Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane Aerospace & 
Electronics

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RE: Why not failwords?

[Steven M. Caesare]

On my list of movies I haven't seen, and probably won't...

 

-sc

 

From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?

 

Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)

 - WJR



On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich
 wrote:

Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password
are really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.



From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Why not failwords?


I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.

From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Why not failwords?


I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
(Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson's analysis of
why long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex
ones. But, I wonder...

Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords
associated with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access
and is as hard to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then
another password that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some
event? Here are a few scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:

[] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
[] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text
message on your cell phone.
[] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it
gets locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours
expire, etc.

Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can't think of any...

Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane
Aerospace & Electronics

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Re: Why not failwords?

[William Robbins]

Cause that worked out well in "Demolition Man"   :)

 - WJR


On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich wrote:

> Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are
> really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
>
>
>
> From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
>
> I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.
>
> From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Why not failwords?
>
> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
> (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
> long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
> But, I wonder…
>
> Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated
> with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard
> to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password
> that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few
> scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
> Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
> failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
> on your cell phone.
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
> locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…
>
> Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane
> Aerospace & Electronics
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Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Mike Sullivan]

I just can't picture Steven and Spense in Lingerie (not that I even know
what they look like)! ;-)

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Cameron  wrote:

> Ladies Lingerie Football League? LOL! :P
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
>>  Speaking of football… Spence and I are playing in a Fantasy league for
>> the first time…
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -sc
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>>   ** **
>>
>> Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?
>>
>>  
>>
>> This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like
>> we take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to
>> Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do
>> that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
>>
>> Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
>> should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
>> 
>>
>> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even
>> though it’s only preseason.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Don Guyer*
>>
>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>
>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>>
>> Enterprise Technology Group
>>
>> *Fiserv*
>>
>> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>>
>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>>
>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>>
>> www.fiserv.com
>>
>> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>>  
>>
>> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side
>> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
>>
>>  
>>
>> Z
>>
>>  
>>
>> Edward E. Ziots
>>
>> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>>
>> Security Engineer
>>
>> Lifespan Organization
>>
>> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>>
>> Cell:401-639-3505
>>
>> [image: CISSP_logo]
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>>  
>>
>> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
>> barely spell the state! J
>>
>>  
>>
>> Carl Webster
>>
>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>
>> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>>  
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>>  
>>
>> Here’s your sign…
>>
>>  
>>
>> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!*
>> ***
>>
>>  
>>
>> J
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Don Guyer*
>>
>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>
>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>>
>> Enterprise Technology Group
>>
>> *Fiserv*
>>
>> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>>
>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>>
>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>>
>> www.fiserv.com
>>
>> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>>  
>>
>> Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.
>>
>>  
>>
>> If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
>> interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will
>> have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp
>> 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here
>> in Bethlehem PA. 
>>
>> Carl Webster
>>
>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>
>> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* OT: Looking for Position
>>
>>  
>>
>> Everyone,
>>
>>  
>>
>> I was just notified that my position will be cut,
>> effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the
>> Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at
>> don.gu...@comcast.net.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Don Guyer*
>>
>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>
>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2

RE: Restart on Adding Apple Services

[Guyer, Don]

I think he means will he have to restart the Windows servers...in that
case, most likely.

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
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-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restart on Adding Apple Services

Most likely, no. Macs can connect to file servers using SMB (10.7 added
support for DFS). So unless you're doing something beyond the need for
shared server space, the Macs should handle it with no problem.

What are you trying to do with your new Mac users?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Phil Hershey
[mailto:phers...@agia.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 19 Aug 2011
07:51:20 -0700
Subject: Restart on Adding Apple Services


> 100's of PC users, but I need to add Apple services to a Windows 
> Storage Server system for 3 artists that use Apples.  Is this going to

> require a restart?
> 
>  
> 
> Probably a dumb question, I admit.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> Phil Hershey
> 
> Carpinteria, CA
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Cameron]

Ladies Lingerie Football League? LOL! :P

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  Speaking of football… Spence and I are playing in a Fantasy league for
> the first time…
>
> ** **
>
> -sc
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>   ** **
>
> Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?
>
>  
>
> This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like
> we take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to
> Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do
> that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
>
> Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
> should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:*
> ***
>
> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even though
> it’s only preseason.
>
>  
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
>  
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side
> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
>
>  
>
> Z
>
>  
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Security Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
> [image: CISSP_logo]
>
>  
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
> barely spell the state! J
>
>  
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> LOL!
>
>  
>
> Here’s your sign…
>
>  
>
> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!**
> **
>
>  
>
> J
>
>  
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
>  
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
>  
>
> Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.
>
>  
>
> If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
> interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will
> have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp
> 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here
> in Bethlehem PA. 
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Looking for Position
>
>  
>
> Everyone,
>
>  
>
> I was just notified that my position will be cut, effective
> the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the Southeastern
> area of PA, please contact me offline at don.gu...@comcast.net.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
>  
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ---
> To m

RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Steven M. Caesare]

Speaking of football... Spence and I are playing in a Fantasy league for
the first time...

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?

 

This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems
like we take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they
come to Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh
wait, we do that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.

Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don 
wrote:

Man, they sure made our "standout" corners look bad last night, even
though it's only preseason.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673  

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west
side outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
barely spell the state! :-)

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

LOL!

 

Here's your sign...

 

That's actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!

 

:-)

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673  

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.

 

If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate
will have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp
6, XenApp 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will
be located here in Bethlehem PA. 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Looking for Position

 

Everyone,

 

I was just notified that my position will be cut,
effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the
Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at 
don.gu...@comcast.net.

 

Thanks,

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673  

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

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Re: Restart on Adding Apple Services

[Matthew W. Ross]

Most likely, no. Macs can connect to file servers using SMB (10.7 added support 
for DFS). So unless you're doing something beyond the need for shared server 
space, the Macs should handle it with no problem.

What are you trying to do with your new Mac users?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Phil Hershey
[mailto:phers...@agia.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 19 Aug 2011
07:51:20 -0700
Subject: Restart on Adding Apple Services


> 100's of PC users, but I need to add Apple services to a Windows Storage
> Server system for 3 artists that use Apples.  Is this going to require a
> restart?
> 
>  
> 
> Probably a dumb question, I admit.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks.
> 
>  
> 
> Phil Hershey
> 
> Carpinteria, CA
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Why not failwords?

[John Aldrich]

Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are 
really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.



From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not failwords?

I still think passwords have to die.  There are better options.

From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com] 
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Why not failwords?

I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords 
(Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why 
long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones. But, 
I wonder…

Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated with 
your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard to crack 
as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password that would be 
easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few scenarios I can 
think of off the top of my head:

[] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword. Opens 
the vault and rings the silent alarm.
[] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your 
failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message on 
your cell phone.
[] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets 
locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc. 

Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…

Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane Aerospace & 
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Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Jonathan Link]

Ooh, yeah, forgot about him, too.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Harry Singh  wrote:

> Wasn't Moon a viking QB at some point too?
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?
>>
>> This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like
>> we take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to
>> Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do
>> that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
>> Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
>> should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
>>
>>> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even
>>> though it’s only preseason.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *Don Guyer*
>>>
>>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>>
>>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>>>
>>> Enterprise Technology Group
>>>
>>> *Fiserv*
>>>
>>> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>>>
>>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>>>
>>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>>>
>>> www.fiserv.com
>>>
>>> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side
>>> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Z
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Edward E. Ziots
>>>
>>> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>>>
>>> Security Engineer
>>>
>>> Lifespan Organization
>>>
>>> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>>>
>>> Cell:401-639-3505
>>>
>>> [image: CISSP_logo]
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
>>> barely spell the state! J
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Carl Webster
>>>
>>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>>
>>> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Here’s your sign…
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!
>>> 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> J
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *Don Guyer*
>>>
>>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>>
>>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>>>
>>> Enterprise Technology Group
>>>
>>> *Fiserv*
>>>
>>> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>>>
>>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>>>
>>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>>>
>>> www.fiserv.com
>>>
>>> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
>>> interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will
>>> have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp
>>> 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here
>>> in Bethlehem PA. 
>>>
>>> Carl Webster
>>>
>>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>>
>>> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* OT: Looking for Position
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Everyone,
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I was just notified that my position will be cut,
>>> effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the
>>> Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at
>>> don.gu...@comcast.net.
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *Don Guyer*
>>>
>>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>>
>>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>>>
>>> Enterprise Technology Group
>>>
>>> *Fiserv*
>>>
>>> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>>>
>>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>>>
>>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>>>
>>> www.fiserv.com
>>>
>>> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a res

RE: Looking for web site developing companies

[John Aldrich]

Try Netahawk, Dubuque and Packett. They have two offices in Virginia:
RICHMOND OFFICE
One East Cary Street
Richmond, VA 23219
804-783-8140 / 800-847-2674
F 804-783-0098

ROANOKE OFFICE
410 South Jefferson Street
Roanoke, VA 24011
540-345-5403 / 866-677-9817
F 540-345-5414

They do fairly complex sites. Granted they are not SP-based, but still
pretty nice. They don't work cheap, though.



From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Looking for web site developing companies

Hi Folks,
 
I'm looking for recommendations for companies that do web site development. 
We maintain a number of web sites here for our various .org sites.  
 
I and my team don't have the time to completely redesign our sites.  We can
maintain and update, but I'd prefer to use a specialized service to assist
with design and occasional support once design is implemented.  We are
implementing an internal Share Point portal, so I'd prefer a SP-based design
since we already use SP.
 
We are in Virginia, are state and non-profit.  If anyone has any
recommendations, please let me know.
 
Tom

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Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Harry Singh]

Wasn't Moon a viking QB at some point too?

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?
>
> This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like
> we take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to
> Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do
> that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
> Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
> should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:
>
>> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even
>> though it’s only preseason.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Don Guyer*
>>
>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>
>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>>
>> Enterprise Technology Group
>>
>> *Fiserv*
>>
>> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>>
>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>>
>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>>
>> www.fiserv.com
>>
>> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side
>> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Z
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Edward E. Ziots
>>
>> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>>
>> Security Engineer
>>
>> Lifespan Organization
>>
>> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>>
>> Cell:401-639-3505
>>
>> [image: CISSP_logo]
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
>> barely spell the state! J
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Carl Webster
>>
>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>
>> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Here’s your sign…
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!*
>> ***
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> J
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Don Guyer*
>>
>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>
>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>>
>> Enterprise Technology Group
>>
>> *Fiserv*
>>
>> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>>
>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>>
>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>>
>> www.fiserv.com
>>
>> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
>> interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will
>> have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp
>> 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here
>> in Bethlehem PA. 
>>
>> Carl Webster
>>
>> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>>
>> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* OT: Looking for Position
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Everyone,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I was just notified that my position will be cut,
>> effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the
>> Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at
>> don.gu...@comcast.net.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Don Guyer*
>>
>> Windows Systems Engineer
>>
>> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>>
>> Enterprise Technology Group
>>
>> *Fiserv*
>>
>> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>>
>> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>>
>> Fax: 610-233-0404
>>
>> www.fiserv.com
>>
>> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~   ~
>>
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RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Guyer, Don]

Guess Vick will be coming to you guys within the next few years, after
he doesn't produce a SB win.

 

J

 

I'm waiting for the Flyers season to start up, that's my real passion.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?

 

This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems
like we take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they
come to Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh
wait, we do that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.

Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don 
wrote:

Man, they sure made our "standout" corners look bad last night, even
though it's only preseason.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673  

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west
side outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org  

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
barely spell the state! J

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

LOL!

 

Here's your sign...

 

That's actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673  

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.

 

If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate
will have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp
6, XenApp 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will
be located here in Bethlehem PA. 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Looking for Position

 

Everyone,

 

I was just notified that my position will be cut,
effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the
Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at 
don.gu...@comcast.net.

 

Thanks,

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673  

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

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Re: Why not failwords?

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

You just TOLD !


On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Paul Gordon wrote:

> Yup mine too… - by default ISTR it is the “normal” code +1 – so in any
> coercion type scenario, the coerced just enter their normal code +1… - at
> the point of entry, this gives every appearance of an alarm deactivation… so
> the “coercee” doesn’t suspect anything… but behind the scenes, twelve
> different kinds of hell break loose… J
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 19 August 2011 15:44
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Why not failwords?
>
> ** **
>
> Our building alarm has this already.  
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug <
> doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com> wrote:
>
> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
> (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
> long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
> But, I wonder…
>
>  
>
> Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated
> with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard
> to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password
> that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few
> scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
>  
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
> Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
>
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
> failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
> on your cell phone.
>
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
> locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
> 
>
>  
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…
>
>  
>
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Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Jonathan Link]

Well, it is the Eagles, what do you expect?

This is coming from a long time Vikings sufferer, I mean fan.  Seems like we
take old-used up Eagles QBs give them a nice season when they come to
Minnesota, and then expect the same in the second season.  Oh wait, we do
that with all veteran QBs, now that I think about it.
Cunningham, Favre, George, McMahon.  If the pattern holds, the Vikings
should have a great year and then choke sometime in the playoffs.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> Man, they sure made our “standout” corners look bad last night, even though
> it’s only preseason.
>
> ** **
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
> ** **
>
> Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west side
> outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)
>
> ** **
>
> Z
>
> ** **
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Security Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
> [image: CISSP_logo]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
> ** **
>
> And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
> barely spell the state! J
>
> ** **
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
> ** **
>
> LOL!
>
> ** **
>
> Here’s your sign…
>
> ** **
>
> That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> J
>
> ** **
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania
>
> ** **
>
> Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.
>
> ** **
>
> If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
> interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will
> have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp
> 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here
> in Bethlehem PA. 
>
> Carl Webster
>
> Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
>
> http://www.CarlWebster.com 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* OT: Looking for Position
>
> ** **
>
> Everyone,
>
> ** **
>
> I was just notified that my position will be cut, effective
> the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the Southeastern
> area of PA, please contact me offline at don.gu...@comcast.net.
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,
>
> ** **
>
> *Don Guyer*
>
> Windows Systems Engineer
>
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
>
> Enterprise Technology Group
>
> *Fiserv*
>
> don.gu...@fiserv.com
>
> Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
>
> Fax: 610-233-0404
>
> www.fiserv.com
>
> [image: Description: Frog Signature]
>
> ** **
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
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RE: Why not failwords?

[Paul Gordon]

Yup mine too. - by default ISTR it is the "normal" code +1 - so in any
coercion type scenario, the coerced just enter their normal code +1. - at
the point of entry, this gives every appearance of an alarm deactivation. so
the "coercee" doesn't suspect anything. but behind the scenes, twelve
different kinds of hell break loose. J

 

 

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 19 August 2011 15:44
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?

 

Our building alarm has this already.  

 

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug
 wrote:

I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
(Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson's analysis of why
long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
But, I wonder.

 

Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated
with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard
to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password
that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few
scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:

 

[] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.

[] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
on your cell phone.

[] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc. 

 

Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can't think of any.

 

Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane Aerospace
& Electronics

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I know of No Reason the Republican Treason
Should EVER be Forgot !

 

  

 

 

 

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RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Ziots, Edward]

Yep, well you playing in Pittsburgh which isn't really fair against my
Steelers, 

 

Now in regular season I can't wait to see them beat the Pats in
Pittsburgh J \

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Man, they sure made our "standout" corners look bad last night, even
though it's only preseason.

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west
side outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
barely spell the state! J

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

LOL!

 

Here's your sign...

 

That's actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.

 

If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate
will have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp
6, XenApp 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will
be located here in Bethlehem PA. 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Looking for Position

 

Everyone,

 

I was just notified that my position will be cut,
effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the
Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at 
don.gu...@comcast.net.

 

Thanks,

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

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Re: Why not failwords?

[G.Waleed Kavalec]

Our building alarm has this already.


On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug <
doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com> wrote:

> I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
> (Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
> long passwords are harder to brute force crack than shorter complex ones.
> But, I wonder…
>
> ** **
>
> Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words? Two or more passwords associated
> with your account or whatever. One you use for normal access and is as hard
> to crack as you can make it and still be memorable. Then another password
> that would be easy(er) to crack that triggers some event? Here are a few
> scenarios I can think of off the top of my head:
>
> ** **
>
> [] Bank manager forced to open the vault at gunpoint. Use the failword.
> Opens the vault and rings the silent alarm.
>
> [] Someone tries to login to your PayPal or bank account and tries your
> failword. They get the usual bad password result, but you get a text message
> on your cell phone.
>
> [] Someone tries to unlock your iPhone. They try the failword and it gets
> locked until you send it a special email or text or 24 hours expire, etc.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Is there some reason this is a bad idea? I can’t think of any…
>
> ** **
>
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RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Guyer, Don]

Man, they sure made our "standout" corners look bad last night, even
though it's only preseason.

 

Don Guyer

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RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west
side outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
barely spell the state! J

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

LOL!

 

Here's your sign...

 

That's actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.

 

If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate
will have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp
6, XenApp 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will
be located here in Bethlehem PA. 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Looking for Position

 

Everyone,

 

I was just notified that my position will be cut,
effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the
Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at 
don.gu...@comcast.net.

 

Thanks,

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

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RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

[N Parr]

Exactly, my general train of thought was...
 
Ohhh HP has a new tablet now.  What version of Android is it running?
Huh, Web/O-What?  
 
Like you said, look at Playbook sales compared to IOS/Android.
Blackberry already had an infrastructure of similar devices, market
share and development compared to HP.  And HP says "lets go with
something totally different that everyone will have to start over with
and few have even heard of".  
Sure we deal with users every day that wouldn't know the difference
between and Android and apple tablet.  But for the most part consumers
who are going to drop $$ on a tablet tend to do a little comparison
shopping and would figure out it doesn't run what all the other tablet
in the world do.  When the ads started for HP tablet my wife commented
"that looks neat".  I told her it doesn't run Android and her reply was
"then why would anyone want it".



From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)



As I understand it, the only reason for acquiring Palm was to get WebOS.
Then they screwed up by waiting too long to enter the market with a
product that was not ready and lacked app support.

 

As to the future of WebOS, who else would want it?  The HP failure is a
major black mark, whether earned or not, whether the OS is superior or
not.  The name of the game is apps.  Without developer support and a
large catalog of apps, buyers won't pay a competitive price for a device
that may be slightly better in ways most users won't notice.  I wonder
how Playbook sales are doing at Blackberry and whether it can survive,
for the same reasons.

 

Carl

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

 

They inherited this as part of the Palm acquisition. WebOS used to get
quite good reviews...

 

From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
  
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

 

You shouldn't expect highly paid executives to understand such an
obvious potential (non) future for a product before it falls flat on its
face in the market.

 

Think anyone will get fired as a result?  Unlikely.

 

From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
  
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

 

I never understood why in a market dominated by Apple and Google they
decided to create a new tablet/phone OS?  

 



From: Mike Sullivan [mailto:neog...@gmail.com]
  
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

HP is discontinuing their WebOS operations and going to spin off their
PC Unit. I'd say they are having some issues.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/hp-punts-on-webos-discontinues-touchpad-cu
ts-outlook/55386?tag=nl.e589

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:49 PM, David Lum  wrote:

+1  I have a client with two LJ 4's that are still going.

Please don't say it's going to the Procurve side, I am just moving
clients to them (HP1810G series)

Dave



 

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Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:
> It makes lots of revenue, but very little money.  PSG has ~5% margin, which
> will probably only fall further in the future.

  5% of money is still money.  5% of a very large amount of money is
still a large amount of money.  Again, I don't get it.  Not the math,
not the buzzwords -- what I don't get is the *mindset*.  "It's our
largest product line.  It's profitable.  Get rid of it!"  I suspect
this is one of those "There's something wrong with America" issues.
Our priorities are all jacked up.

-- Ben

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RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

[Carl Houseman]

As I understand it, the only reason for acquiring Palm was to get WebOS.
Then they screwed up by waiting too long to enter the market with a product
that was not ready and lacked app support.

 

As to the future of WebOS, who else would want it?  The HP failure is a major
black mark, whether earned or not, whether the OS is superior or not.  The
name of the game is apps.  Without developer support and a large catalog of
apps, buyers won't pay a competitive price for a device that may be slightly
better in ways most users won't notice.  I wonder how Playbook sales are
doing at Blackberry and whether it can survive, for the same reasons.

 

Carl

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

 

They inherited this as part of the Palm acquisition. WebOS used to get quite
good reviews.

 

From: Carl Houseman  
[mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 8:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

 

You shouldn't expect highly paid executives to understand such an obvious
potential (non) future for a product before it falls flat on its face in the
market.

 

Think anyone will get fired as a result?  Unlikely.

 

From: N Parr  
[mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

 

I never understood why in a market dominated by Apple and Google they decided
to create a new tablet/phone OS?  

 

  _  

From: Mike Sullivan  
[mailto:neog...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

HP is discontinuing their WebOS operations and going to spin off their PC
Unit. I'd say they are having some issues.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/hp-punts-on-webos-discontinues-touchpad-cuts-ou
tlook/55386?tag=nl.e589

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:49 PM, David Lum  wrote:

+1  I have a client with two LJ 4's that are still going.

Please don't say it's going to the Procurve side, I am just moving clients to
them (HP1810G series)

Dave



 

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RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

[Mike Hoffman]

Just when I've finally standardised all my clients on the same model of HP 
desktop ...

Mike

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: 19 August 2011 12:29
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

Yep and they just reported that the PC division is getting spun off, along with 
killing the WEB OS and there tablet solution.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505
[cid:image001.jpg@01CC5E6C.0216CF70]

From: Webster 
[mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

HP has been recruiting very heavily for server/app/desktop/cloud virtualization 
people.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Mathew Shember 
[mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

This is fascinating and yet explains a recent presentation from them.

We have been toying with VDI and have been looking at several options.

We asked them to come in and present.

This they did.  However, they had no formal presentation, slides, nothing.

Just verbal what we should be doing and what they might have in the future.

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RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Ziots, Edward]

Hey Hey that is my home sweet home PA ( abiet I was born on the west
side outside Pittsburgh) ( Go Steelers!)

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can
barely spell the state! J

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

LOL!

 

Here's your sign...

 

That's actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  

 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

 

Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.

 

If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be
interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate
will have the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp
6, XenApp 5). This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will
be located here in Bethlehem PA. 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Looking for Position

 

Everyone,

 

I was just notified that my position will be cut,
effective the end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the
Southeastern area of PA, please contact me offline at 
don.gu...@comcast.net.

 

Thanks,

 

Don Guyer

Windows Systems Engineer

RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2

Enterprise Technology Group

Fiserv

don.gu...@fiserv.com

Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673

Fax: 610-233-0404

www.fiserv.com  



 

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RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

[Ziots, Edward]

Yep and they just reported that the PC division is getting spun off,
along with killing the WEB OS and there tablet solution. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

CISSP, Network +, Security +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

Email:ezi...@lifespan.org

Cell:401-639-3505

 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

 

HP has been recruiting very heavily for server/app/desktop/cloud
virtualization people.

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com  

 

 

From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] The infection continues to spread (HP)

 

This is fascinating and yet explains a recent presentation from them.

 

We have been toying with VDI and have been looking at several options.

 

We asked them to come in and present.

 

This they did.  However, they had no formal presentation, slides,
nothing.   

 

Just verbal what we should be doing and what they might have in the
future.

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RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Mark Kelsay]

Know the area well.  I was stationed at Barksdale from 88 – 92.  Missed you by 
a couple of years.  ☺   Bought a house on Princeton Ave in Bossier City the end 
of 1991 and got my orders to go to England the next week.  Was only in the 
house a couple of months before we had to sell it.


Mark



From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: 19 August 2011 10:59
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

My dad was stationed at Barksdale.  Lived in Louisiana from 1966 to 1986 less 9 
months we wasted, I mean spent, at Columbus AFB in Columbus, MS when he came 
back from Vietnam.  I now live outside Nashville, TN.  Almost where my life 
began at the old Smyrna AFB in Smyrna, TN.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:mark.kel...@confused.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

Where you at in Louseyanna Carl?  I lived in Shreveport back in my Air Force 
days.  Have to admit I was glad to leave.  It was way too humid for my liking.


Cheers,
Mark

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RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Webster]

My dad was stationed at Barksdale.  Lived in Louisiana from 1966 to 1986 less 9 
months we wasted, I mean spent, at Columbus AFB in Columbus, MS when he came 
back from Vietnam.  I now live outside Nashville, TN.  Almost where my life 
began at the old Smyrna AFB in Smyrna, TN.


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Mark Kelsay [mailto:mark.kel...@confused.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 4:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

Where you at in Louseyanna Carl?  I lived in Shreveport back in my Air Force 
days.  Have to admit I was glad to leave.  It was way too humid for my liking.


Cheers,
Mark

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RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

[Mark Kelsay]

Where you at in Louseyanna Carl?  I lived in Shreveport back in my Air Force 
days.  Have to admit I was glad to leave.  It was way too humid for my liking.


Cheers,
Mark




From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: 18 August 2011 22:48
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

Sorry but all my schulin be dunn in Louseyanna.  That bee why St. Michael have 
been wurkin berry hard two help me loin too right my articles (and constants 
and propositions).

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

That fine Tennessee education shining through.  ;)

 - WJR
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 16:21, Webster 
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>> wrote:
And you expected ME to know Pennsylvania geography?  Good lord, I can barely 
spell the state! ☺

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:12 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

LOL!

Here’s your sign…

That’s actually not in my area, but thx for matchmaking anyway, Webster!

☺

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com
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From: Webster 
[mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:04 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looking for Position and Positions in Pennsylvania

Christopher Bodnar meet Don Guyer, Don meet Chris.

If anyone is looking or knows of someone who is looking, we will be 
interviewing soon for a Sr. level Sys Admin position. Ideal candidate will have 
the typical qualifications with an emphasis on Citrix (XenApp 6, XenApp 5). 
This is a FTE position not a contract position, and will be located here in 
Bethlehem PA.
Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.com


From: Guyer, Don 
[mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Looking for Position

Everyone,

I was just notified that my position will be cut, effective the 
end of September. If anyone hears of anything open in the Southeastern area of 
PA, please contact me offline at 
don.gu...@comcast.net.

Thanks,

Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2
Enterprise Technology Group
Fiserv
don.gu...@fiserv.com
Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673
Fax: 610-233-0404
www.fiserv.com
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