RE: MagicJack
In my case it was closer to $14/month. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 03/08/2012 05:41 PM Subject:RE: MagicJack No fee's that I've ever seen. What hidden fee's are you talking about with the Ooma? They tell you up front there will be at least $3-4/month in FCC, etc. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage/jpegimage/jpeg
Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: IIRC, the new shell was introduced with NT 4.0, or maybe some kind of option pack to same. That was an alpha/beta level shell preview, and not released code. I used it.. it was buggy in several aspects, although it got better over time. I don't recall that it ever was _REELASED_ for NT4.0. You actually could run it on 3.51. Okay, I just checked, and according to Wikipedia, NT 4.0 came with the Win 95 style shell out-of-the-box: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NT_4.0#Overview I thought CSC didn't show up until NT 5.1 (XP)? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742423.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offline_files#Offline_Files I stand corrected. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ping
I thought it was pretty damn funny! And I got the original yesterday, as I presume he did. From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ping On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing at all last night... On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Did she use the old headache excuse? Your witty response would have been more impressive if it hadn't taken a week for you to come up with it. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ping
Was it simply coincidence that the original was posted on International Women's Day? From: Jeff Brown [mailto:jbr...@webcoindustries.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ping I thought it was pretty damn funny! And I got the original yesterday, as I presume he did. From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ping On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing at all last night... On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.commailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Did she use the old headache excuse? Your witty response would have been more impressive if it hadn't taken a week for you to come up with it. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately. All inquiries, quotations, purchase orders, acknowledgments, invoices or other documents memorializing offers, acceptances or contractual obligations are subject to Webco's standard terms and conditions of sale (when Webco is the seller, www.webcoindustries.com/tcsales.aspx) or purchase (when Webco is the buyer, www.webcoindustries.com/tcpurchase.aspx). Webco manufactures tubular products to meet customer dimensional and materials specifications. Webco is not an engineering or design business. Any engineering information provided is purely incidental to the tube manufacturing process and not offered or intended to be engineering services related to the performance specifications a customer may require, which is the customer's responsibility to determine. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: ping
Don't encourage him. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Jeff Brown jbr...@webcoindustries.comwrote: I thought it was pretty damn funny! And I got the original yesterday, as I presume he did. ** ** *From:* Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: ping ** ** On Thu, *Mar 1*, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing at all last night... On Thu, *Mar 8*, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Did she use the old headache excuse? Your witty response would have been more impressive if it hadn't taken a week for you to come up with it. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately. All inquiries, quotations, purchase orders, acknowledgments, invoices or other documents memorializing offers, acceptances or contractual obligations are subject to Webco’s standard terms and conditions of sale (when Webco is the seller, www.webcoindustries.com/tcsales.aspx) or purchase (when Webco is the buyer, www.webcoindustries.com/tcpurchase.aspx). Webco manufactures tubular products to meet customer dimensional and materials specifications. Webco is not an engineering or design business. Any engineering information provided is purely incidental to the tube manufacturing process and not offered or intended to be engineering services related to the performance specifications a customer may require, which is the customer’s responsibility to determine. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MagicJack
I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:image001.jpg@01CCFDD5.8CA0EDC0] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: MagicJack
Nope, this is strictly for home use, and have had no need for that functionality. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 03/09/2012 09:18 AM Subject:RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage/jpegimage/jpeg
RE: MagicJack
I actually just bough an Ooma, and from what I understand that's about what it would cost for the full blown setup with all the line features. Or ~$100/year up front which includes porting your # for free. Still better than what I'm pay ATT. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack In my case it was closer to $14/month. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:434522814@09032012-1FF9] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ From:N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:03/08/2012 05:41 PM Subject:RE: MagicJack No fee's that I've ever seen. What hidden fee's are you talking about with the Ooma? They tell you up front there will be at least $3-4/month in FCC, etc. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:434522814@09032012-2000] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: ATT1.jpginline: ATT2.jpg
RE: FTP site configuration backups
If you are only running FTP, then 99% chance all your IIS configuration is in %windir%\system32\inetsrv\config (there are three config files there) There's a history of changes in %windir%\system32\inetsrv\history You just need to keep track of the local user passwords (if you are using Windows accounts rather than IIS accounts). Given that you have to create these in the first place, you must have some way of storing this info someway. Or, do as Brian suggests, and do a backup of the server. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012 7:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FTP site configuration backups That's a good theory, and indeed part of the solution, but in practice, people are fallible, and will fail to keep the script updated. So, what's needed is a script to read the current configuration and produce output that can be fed back into (another|this) script to recreate the site on a new machine. I'm thinking it might be a good project for me to learn some 1337 powershell skllz. Kurt On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 15:11, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: So you know the passwords, you know the config, you set the perms, so why not simply keep a powershell script of all the account creation etc updated. It sounds like like its fairly repetitive and you could simply loop through all the user/directory creation, apply acl's etc from the list of users. Server breaks, you redeploy and execute a continuously updated script. Powershell has some IIS extensions (although I have never done explicit ftp work with it)... I really don't see it needing to be more complex than this? From: Kurt Buff [kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: FTP site configuration backups I believe I have a slightly different situation than what you're describing, but I could be wrong, so correct me if I am. On this server, the FTP users are accounts in the local accounts base - we chose to do that so that vendors/partners would each have a protected directory with exclusive access to it. That would place the names and accounts in the SAM database, correct? Regardless, this would require poking holes in the firewall that aren't already there, which I'm reluctant to do. Thanks, Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: FTP site configuration backups
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RE: MagicJack
I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:843293014@09032012-2007] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
Yup, I'm an idiot. Ignore me on the shell thing. I was thinking... well I'm not really sure. I still stand by Win2k being the cat's meow tho' :) -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: IIRC, the new shell was introduced with NT 4.0, or maybe some kind of option pack to same. That was an alpha/beta level shell preview, and not released code. I used it.. it was buggy in several aspects, although it got better over time. I don't recall that it ever was _REELASED_ for NT4.0. You actually could run it on 3.51. Okay, I just checked, and according to Wikipedia, NT 4.0 came with the Win 95 style shell out-of-the-box: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NT_4.0#Overview I thought CSC didn't show up until NT 5.1 (XP)? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742423.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offline_files#Offline_Files I stand corrected. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ping
See? I was so behind on the list I wasn't even aware that messages were being delayed by several days! -sc From: Jeff Brown [mailto:jbr...@webcoindustries.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ping I thought it was pretty damn funny! And I got the original yesterday, as I presume he did. From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ping On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing at all last night... On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Did she use the old headache excuse? Your witty response would have been more impressive if it hadn't taken a week for you to come up with it. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately. All inquiries, quotations, purchase orders, acknowledgments, invoices or other documents memorializing offers, acceptances or contractual obligations are subject to Webco's standard terms and conditions of sale (when Webco is the seller, www.webcoindustries.com/tcsales.aspx) or purchase (when Webco is the buyer, www.webcoindustries.com/tcpurchase.aspx). Webco manufactures tubular products to meet customer dimensional and materials specifications. Webco is not an engineering or design business. Any engineering information provided is purely incidental to the tube manufacturing process and not offered or intended to be engineering services related to the performance specifications a customer may require, which is the customer's responsibility to determine. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ping
That's what SHE said! -sc From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ping Don't encourage him. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Jeff Brown jbr...@webcoindustries.com wrote: I thought it was pretty damn funny! And I got the original yesterday, as I presume he did. From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ping On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing at all last night... On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Did she use the old headache excuse? Your witty response would have been more impressive if it hadn't taken a week for you to come up with it. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately. All inquiries, quotations, purchase orders, acknowledgments, invoices or other documents memorializing offers, acceptances or contractual obligations are subject to Webco's standard terms and conditions of sale (when Webco is the seller, www.webcoindustries.com/tcsales.aspx) or purchase (when Webco is the buyer, www.webcoindustries.com/tcpurchase.aspx). Webco manufactures tubular products to meet customer dimensional and materials specifications. Webco is not an engineering or design business. Any engineering information provided is purely incidental to the tube manufacturing process and not offered or intended to be engineering services related to the performance specifications a customer may require, which is the customer's responsibility to determine. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MagicJack
Just switched from Vonage to Ooma as well. Got a refurb Ooma for ~$140, and spent the $30ish to get my number ported. So far so good. Issues: 1) The base service doesn't do email notifications of vmail. I did get that w/ Vonage, but I also was paying. $28/mo. I can do without it. 2) No 3-way calling unless you are physically at the Ooma interface box (not practical for me, it's in my basement wiring closet), or have an Ooma handset. I got around this by using my Google Voice # and forwarding it to my Ooma #... Only had it a month or so tho, so time will tell... -sc From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I actually just bough an Ooma, and from what I understand that's about what it would cost for the full blown setup with all the line features. Or ~$100/year up front which includes porting your # for free. Still better than what I'm pay ATT. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack In my case it was closer to $14/month. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto: The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com http://www.guardianlife.com/ From:N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:03/08/2012 05:41 PM Subject:RE: MagicJack No fee's that I've ever seen. What hidden fee's are you talking about with the Ooma? They tell you up front there will be at least $3-4/month in FCC, etc. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com ] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto: The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com http://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: MagicJack
Agreed, it's still better than a lot of options out there. For me it just didn't make sense to pay an extra $130/year to Ooma for the same service I can get with MagicJack. This is my estimate for 4 years between the 2 services, which includes the initial purchase of the hardware: Ooma$827 MagicJack $205 Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 03/09/2012 09:34 AM Subject:RE: MagicJack I actually just bough an Ooma, and from what I understand that's about what it would cost for the full blown setup with all the line features. Or ~$100/year up front which includes porting your # for free. Still better than what I'm pay ATT. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack In my case it was closer to $14/month. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From:N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:03/08/2012 05:41 PM Subject:RE: MagicJack No fee's that I've ever seen. What hidden fee's are you talking about with the Ooma? They tell you up front there will be at least $3-4/month in FCC, etc. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself... http://www.robomow.com/home.html From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? Both my washing machine and lawn mower came from Sears. The washing machine was built when things were meant to last and I will be saddened when it spins down for the last time for I know not where I'll find a new one that will last as long. The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself... -Paul From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MagicJack
FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there.The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.).No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees.The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box.I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for "NEW" customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a "new" customer.Don KFrom: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
Windows XP added cached credentials, so you didn't spend what seemed like infinity waiting to get to your desktop after entering your credentials when there was no DC on the network. Whilst Win2k was nicer from a GUI PoV, WinNT 3.5.1 and WinNT 4 delivered on the stability PoV. Win2k didn't really add anything to that. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012 10:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? Yup, I'm an idiot. Ignore me on the shell thing. I was thinking... well I'm not really sure. I still stand by Win2k being the cat's meow tho' :) -sc -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: IIRC, the new shell was introduced with NT 4.0, or maybe some kind of option pack to same. That was an alpha/beta level shell preview, and not released code. I used it.. it was buggy in several aspects, although it got better over time. I don't recall that it ever was _REELASED_ for NT4.0. You actually could run it on 3.51. Okay, I just checked, and according to Wikipedia, NT 4.0 came with the Win 95 style shell out-of-the-box: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NT_4.0#Overview I thought CSC didn't show up until NT 5.1 (XP)? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742423.aspx http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offline_files#Offline_Files I stand corrected. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MagicJack
Remember that fax isn't supposed to work on VoIP anyways without fax-aware endpoints and infrastructure. (For anyone interested, voip-info.org has a nice writeup on T.38 VoIP fax—you vasically intercept the fax at the adapter end, packetize it, send it, and then unpack it and recreate the original fax call at the VoIP gateway end.) I myself have had good luck with Vonage in the past, but gave them up due to cost; some custom configuration on a Grandstream ATA got me working fax with a couple of other providers, but in the end I gave up and just got the cheapest possible analog line for fax purposes. I've even given that up now and I just use online fax services exclusively for the one fax I get every couple of months. Jack Kramer Manager of Information Technology University Relations, Michigan State University w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955 From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 14:35:52 + To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:843293014@09032012-2007] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
Re: MagicJack
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote: I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From everything I've heard, MJ+fax=bad. You're prolly better off finding an Internet-based fax service. You can use different for send vs receive, so shop around. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
John Harris passed rather unexpectedly, don't know if you recall him from the other list or not Kurt. - WJR On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 23:01, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Do tell. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 19:23, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Today is a sad day for many of us. Let it slide. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Think it's about time to set a Gary rule. Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I bring my own. Fuckmonkey was a timely volunteer for me to vent. fuck him. From: Don Ely don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:43:22 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send
RE: MagicJack
I had MJ for a couple of years. Didn't have too many complaints, except that sometimes the people I was talking to would complain that I sounded like I was under water. I've got my phone through my ISP now, Clear, and it seems to be working fine. Only issue now, is that when Clear pushes an update to my Voip box, it gets confused, because I have a wireless router, and the Voip box doesn't know whether to try to get the update through the Clear modem, or through my wireless router. Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: Randy Ryan [mailto:rr...@del-valle.k12.tx.us] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:26 PM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack Had it for years and all I do is pay every year or 2 and use it. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]mailto:[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:image001.jpg@01CCFDC6.D2AF7D90] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
Mine has a beer cup holder. Worth the price right there. J From: Miller Bonnie L. [mailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself... http://www.robomow.com/home.html From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? Both my washing machine and lawn mower came from Sears. The washing machine was built when things were meant to last and I will be saddened when it spins down for the last time for I know not where I'll find a new one that will last as long. The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself... -Paul From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
Acceptable is a relative term. Knowing Gary as well as I do I can assure you it was acceptable to him. Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Honestly Gary's response is pretty spot on, the function of a professional list typically is for peers of an expected experience level, and part of that expectation is to do some of your own work as this is not a place for could you please do my thinking for me? The correlation to Carpet Boy is apropos as a good known reference point for repeated offenses of this type of generally agreed upon unacceptable behavior. That said, given my record here, I expect to be summarily ignored. - WJR On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 00:53, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Calling someone as “asshole” is acceptable, simply because they asked an incomplete question? Or asking if they are related to “carpet boy”? ** ** That’s ad hominem, unnecessary and unprofessional. Whilst we might have disagreements, let’s keep the conversation civil, and talking about the topic and not the man/woman. ** ** Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, 9 March 2012 11:56 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Windows File Archive ** ** On the otherhand, a bitch-slap can be a healthy and needed aspect of Apprenticeship. It makes people think - about thinking for themselves and to make greater considerations of the details involved with whatever their question may be - before they ask an incomplete question, or try to move forward with an incomplete thought again. This list, while very friendly, has been more tolerating than recently than in the past of such things. Not necessarily a bad thing, but also something notably annoying to many more experienced professionals. And there is the rub; this is a bitch-slap, not an act of unprofessional - because this is not a professional forum. This forum is highly social, and a bitch-slap is a social adjustment. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: While I may not employ Gary's colorful vocabulary, I agree with his basic sentiment. I would think a solution would include such a capability. If you are rolling your own then I suggest testing as I have had false positives with robocopy. On Thursday, March 8, 2012, Cesare' A. Ramos cra...@idfllc.com wrote: Some of you on this list need to get out more or understand what the purpose of a professional exchange is, as it is my understanding these lists are for. At times we all need to bounce things off each other, as no one person has all the answers. In addition, questions are simple at times there is no need for high level of complexity to impress anyone. Thanks for the help Michael and Joseph, clearly you guys read the subject on the e-mail. CAR From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR ** ** ~ Finally, powerful
Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
HOLY CRAP on the prices!! On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself… ** ** http://www.robomow.com/home.html ** ** ** ** *From:* Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:31 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? ** ** Both my washing machine and lawn mower came from Sears. The washing machine was built when things were meant to last and I will be saddened when it spins down for the last time for I know not where I’ll find a new one that will last as long. The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself… ** ** -Paul ** ** *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MagicJack
*The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer.* Yes, that's how it works, apparently. I have successfully avoided tying my phone service to my Internet provider for years now. I like them decoupled because I can make decisions about each independently without losing discounts, etc. I did take service bundles that gave me phone service, but never used it for anything other than allowing my daughter to make calls without tying up the real line. :) * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K -- *From:* N Parr npar...@mortonind.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM *Subject:* RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. -- *From:* Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks *Christopher Bodnar* Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com * The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America* * *www.guardianlife.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: MagicJack
Don, Comcast will normally give you what you want, if you tell them you are thinking about other vendors. Each year, when my yearly rate goes up (all 3 services), I call and get it lowered back down. Nuisance, but it's worked for quite some time now. BTW, I've often thought about dropping telco from them, but I would end up paying more than the bundle package we currently have, so I just leave it. We don't even average 1 call a day with our land line. Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:image001.jpg@01CCFDE7.66A1BC50] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
RE: MagicJack
I'm in the Midwest market for Comcast and we use them for one work location. I hate dealing with them, can't seem to do anything right. I have Dish at home and when I called them to complain that if I was a new customer I would be paying $20/month less for the exact same package they dropped $10/month from my bill right there. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:139574116@09032012-200E] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.comhttp://www.guardianlife.com/ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ---
Re: Windows File Archive
Sorry to hear. I'm sad for his family and would like to express condolences for their loss. Don K From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 9:32 AM Subject: Re: Windows File Archive John Harris passed rather unexpectedly, don't know if you recall him from the other list or not Kurt. - WJR On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 23:01, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Do tell. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 19:23, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Today is a sad day for many of us. Let it slide. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Think it's about time to set a Gary rule. Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I bring my own. Fuckmonkey was a timely volunteer for me to vent. fuck him. From: Don Ely don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:43:22 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
Re: Windows File Archive
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: It's been a while, but couldn't progman.exe be run as a shell under NT 4? PROGMAN.EXE can be run as a shell under XP. Dunno about NT 6.x. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
And just making it that much easier once SkyNET gets going... On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: HOLY CRAP on the prices!! On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself… ** ** http://www.robomow.com/home.html ** ** ** ** *From:* Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:31 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? ** ** Both my washing machine and lawn mower came from Sears. The washing machine was built when things were meant to last and I will be saddened when it spins down for the last time for I know not where I’ll find a new one that will last as long. The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself… ** ** -Paul ** ** *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
Polite is a relative term, too. I find unresearched, or at least poorly framed, questions incredibly rude, hence impolite. I have two standards for posting to the list. If it's something that's easy, but I think the members know a fair bit about, I'll ask, but I'll so preface that I may not have done a lot of research, so I'm looking for some pointers. Complete information, as well as links to docs, or even hints at google searches are welcome. The other circumstance, is when I'm dealing with a problem. I'll begin laying out the problem in the email, and then I'll think about different ways of phrasing the question or problem. I'll also go through and make sure I dot my I's and cross my T's. 95% of the time during this process I solve my own problem. This works for me, and I recognize it may not work for anyone else The original poster's question provided no information about his environment, but if we assume it is NT, based on the list, it didn't even include some basic information we tend to need to provide good answers. Again, as I have said previously, I would expect an external archive solution to have already solved the problem of determining what needs to be archived. So, we are left with an ambiguous question from the OP. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote: Acceptable is a relative term. Knowing Gary as well as I do I can assure you it was acceptable to him. Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Honestly Gary's response is pretty spot on, the function of a professional list typically is for peers of an expected experience level, and part of that expectation is to do some of your own work as this is not a place for could you please do my thinking for me? The correlation to Carpet Boy is apropos as a good known reference point for repeated offenses of this type of generally agreed upon unacceptable behavior. That said, given my record here, I expect to be summarily ignored. - WJR On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 00:53, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Calling someone as “asshole” is acceptable, simply because they asked an incomplete question? Or asking if they are related to “carpet boy”?*** * ** ** That’s ad hominem, unnecessary and unprofessional. Whilst we might have disagreements, let’s keep the conversation civil, and talking about the topic and not the man/woman. ** ** Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, 9 March 2012 11:56 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Windows File Archive ** ** On the otherhand, a bitch-slap can be a healthy and needed aspect of Apprenticeship. It makes people think - about thinking for themselves and to make greater considerations of the details involved with whatever their question may be - before they ask an incomplete question, or try to move forward with an incomplete thought again. This list, while very friendly, has been more tolerating than recently than in the past of such things. Not necessarily a bad thing, but also something notably annoying to many more experienced professionals. And there is the rub; this is a bitch-slap, not an act of unprofessional - because this is not a professional forum. This forum is highly social, and a bitch-slap is a social adjustment. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: While I may not employ Gary's colorful vocabulary, I agree with his basic sentiment. I would think a solution would include such a capability. If you are rolling your own then I suggest testing as I have had false positives with robocopy. On Thursday, March 8, 2012, Cesare' A. Ramos cra...@idfllc.com wrote: Some of you on this list need to get out more or understand what the purpose of a professional exchange is, as it is my understanding these lists are for. At times we all need to bounce things off each other, as no one person has all the answers. In addition, questions are simple at times there is no need for high level of complexity to impress anyone. Thanks for the help Michael and Joseph, clearly you guys read the subject on the e-mail. CAR From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)...
Re: Windows File Archive
sorry to hear this, Rest in Peace John :( On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:32 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote: John Harris passed rather unexpectedly, don't know if you recall him from the other list or not Kurt. - WJR On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 23:01, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Do tell. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 19:23, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Today is a sad day for many of us. Let it slide. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Think it's about time to set a Gary rule. Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I bring my own. Fuckmonkey was a timely volunteer for me to vent. fuck him. From: Don Ely don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:43:22 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Windows File Archive
WJR, did you say something? Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: William Robbins [dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Acceptable is a relative term. Knowing Gary as well as I do I can assure you it was acceptable to him. Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Honestly Gary's response is pretty spot on, the function of a professional list typically is for peers of an expected experience level, and part of that expectation is to do some of your own work as this is not a place for could you please do my thinking for me? The correlation to Carpet Boy is apropos as a good known reference point for repeated offenses of this type of generally agreed upon unacceptable behavior. That said, given my record here, I expect to be summarily ignored. - WJR ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: A Little Help Needed
Thanks for the advice guys. I'm going to begin testing on Monday with some test desktops and the ADMT. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.com wrote: On top of what already has been suggested the only item in AD you should do is associate that subnet (101) with the site in Domain 1 inside of the AD sites and services snap-in. On Thursday, March 8, 2012, James Hill falc...@gmail.com wrote: There isn’t anything else to it. You obviously have the necessary routing in place so just go ahead and activate that DHCP scope and deactivate the old 192.168.101.x one. It IS that simple. From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012 12:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: A Little Help Needed I have a DC from domain 1 sitting on domain 2's LAN. I can activate DHCP on that server with the same 192.168.101.x scope, no problem. It is also running DNS. The DC from domain 1 is happy up there on domain 2's LAN and is replicating with the other domain 1 DCs. It seems too simple though. I think I need to grab some spare desktops and do some testing. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Not sure you really need to do anything, at least initially. So right now the domain 2 clients (192.168.101.x) are receiving DHCP addresses from their local DC or some DHCP server on domain 2 that has a scope setup for the 192.168.101.x address range, correct? When you flip these clients over to the domain 1 domain, they will still be physically on the same side of the VPN, so they will continue to get DHCP addresses from the same box they were getting from before. My guess is that you want to flip them to a DHCP server in domain 1 at some point after the migration? If so something like this should work. On the DC that sits on the domain 2 side of the VPN, or some other box you designate, setup DHCP and configure a scope identical to how it currently is for the box that's currently handing it out for 192.168.101.x, but don't activate it yet. Then when the migration is complete, de-activate the scope on the old DHCP server, and activate it on the new DHCP server. Should be that simple. Unless your network is more complex. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com thismessage:/mail/u/0/s/?view=attth=135f467f002ada19attid=0.1disp=embzwatsh=1 The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From:James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:03/08/2012 08:40 AM Subject:A Little Help Needed Hello all, Little road block I have hit trying to work on a project here and I need a little advise on how to handle. We have two domains, I'll call them domain 1 and 2, they are in two physical locations. Domain 1 is on subnet 192.168.100.1, domain 2 is on 192.168.101.1. There is a VPN tunnel between the two that connects the two domains and allows us to have a trust between the two. We want to eliminate domain 2. We already have a domain 1 DC on the domain 2 LAN. The issue we are having is how to get the desktops in domain 2 a ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MagicJack
I've been thinking about getting DISH for TV. We have refused to add any extra Comcast services for TV. When I originally got it, we had the basic stuff that came along with the cable connection - so we had a bunch of channels - including FX and SCI FI for a while. Since they've went digital, we have about 10 channels (as we only have Internet and the most "Basic" TV package we can get) - no boxes. Now, they've sent us another msg telling us we had to get boxes just to watch TV on our older sets. So we got 3 of those for free and have to put those in.Looks like DISH has a good deal too now with Blockbuster and all their included stuff.Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I'm in the Midwest market for Comcast and we use them for one work location. I hate dealing with them, can't seem to do anything right. I have Dish at home and when I called them to complain that if I was a new customer I would be paying $20/month less for the exact same package they dropped $10/month from my bill right there. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for "NEW" customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a "new" customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly
RE: Windows File Archive
+1 I have no right to call myself a peer. I am a research biologist by training. It's just that one fateful day, I was told, You're good at fixing computers; you are now our systems administrator!. I cannot adequately express how much I have learned from this forum and how helpful it has been! Ben and ASB have been especially helpful. I've been chided by them and others on occasion, and I admit I deserved it. Still, again, some who subscribe to this forum are folks whose organization have tossed them in over their heads. That's one blanket statement. As to another blanket statement, I did not see the really abusive language until Stu quoted the message. No, such language is definitely NOT acceptable to me and to countless others! -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows File Archive
Whoa.. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Sorry to hear. I'm sad for his family and would like to express condolences for their loss. Don K From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 9:32 AM Subject: Re: Windows File Archive John Harris passed rather unexpectedly, don't know if you recall him from the other list or not Kurt. - WJR On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 23:01, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Do tell. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 19:23, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Today is a sad day for many of us. Let it slide. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Think it's about time to set a Gary rule. Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I bring my own. Fuckmonkey was a timely volunteer for me to vent. fuck him. From: Don Ely don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:43:22 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.commailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
Re: H: (homedrive)
yep. H drive too. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:18 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: H: (homedrive)
Pick your poison...individual shares or folders under a single share. Depends entirely on the enterprise, admin considerations, security considerations, etc. ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: David Lum david@nwea.org Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:18:01 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: (homedrive)
We simply populate the Profile Tab, and allow Windows to create the actual folder w/ appropriate rights. Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:18 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: H: (homedrive)
One share. you can designate subfolders under that share as the homefolder. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: H: (homedrive)
One share for all home drives. Use ABE so not all folder are visible and use NTFS perms to secure. To much management overhead for a separate share for each user folder. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
Sad day. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: sorry to hear this, Rest in Peace John :( On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:32 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote: John Harris passed rather unexpectedly, don't know if you recall him from the other list or not Kurt. - WJR On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 23:01, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Do tell. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 19:23, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Today is a sad day for many of us. Let it slide. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Think it's about time to set a Gary rule. Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I bring my own. Fuckmonkey was a timely volunteer for me to vent. fuck him. From: Don Ely don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:43:22 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~
Re: H: (homedrive)
Definitely one share, and multiple folders owned by each user below that. The ACLs pretty much follow along this guide for roaming profiles: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc757013(v=ws.10).aspx --Steve On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: H: (homedrive)
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? One share, folder per user. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows File Archive
That is sad news. :( Condolences to his family. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive John Harris passed rather unexpectedly, don't know if you recall him from the other list or not Kurt. - WJR On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 23:01, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Do tell. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 19:23, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Today is a sad day for many of us. Let it slide. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.commailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Think it's about time to set a Gary rule. Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I bring my own. Fuckmonkey was a timely volunteer for me to vent. fuck him. From: Don Ely don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:43:22 -0800 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.commailto:cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: (homedrive)
Generally: \\server_name\users\user_name Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: H: (homedrive)
One share with secured nested folder structures. This is less resource intensive on the server. -- Espi On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:18 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
To borrow from the response of CB II, if you think that was really abusive, you may need to get out more. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: +1 I have no right to call myself a peer. I am a research biologist by training. It's just that one fateful day, I was told, You're good at fixing computers; you are now our systems administrator!. I cannot adequately express how much I have learned from this forum and how helpful it has been! Ben and ASB have been especially helpful. I've been chided by them and others on occasion, and I admit I deserved it. Still, again, some who subscribe to this forum are folks whose organization have tossed them in over their heads. That's one blanket statement. As to another blanket statement, I did not see the really abusive language until Stu quoted the message. No, such language is definitely NOT acceptable to me and to countless others! -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: (homedrive)
I create one share (the Home directory) and then lock down the individual subdirectories using local permissions. -Paul From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MagicJack
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: Now, they've sent us another msg telling us we had to get boxes just to watch TV on our older sets. So we got 3 of those for free and have to put those in. Yah, cable TV is switching to digital broadcasting the same way over-the-air stations did a few years ago. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: (homedrive)
A single share with each of their folders in there. \\server\users\%username%file:///\\server\users\%25username%25 Self-created with this spiffy MS KB. My favorite KB of all time since we need 7000 new folders every August. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MagicJack
Wait until their new receiver comes out. Google Dish Hopper From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack I've been thinking about getting DISH for TV. We have refused to add any extra Comcast services for TV. When I originally got it, we had the basic stuff that came along with the cable connection - so we had a bunch of channels - including FX and SCI FI for a while. Since they've went digital, we have about 10 channels (as we only have Internet and the most Basic TV package we can get) - no boxes. Now, they've sent us another msg telling us we had to get boxes just to watch TV on our older sets. So we got 3 of those for free and have to put those in. Looks like DISH has a good deal too now with Blockbuster and all their included stuff. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I'm in the Midwest market for Comcast and we use them for one work location. I hate dealing with them, can't seem to do anything right. I have Dish at home and when I called them to complain that if I was a new customer I would be paying $20/month less for the exact same package they dropped $10/month from my bill right there. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.commailto: [cid:103460419@09032012-2015] The Guardian Life Insurance Company of
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Re: H: (homedrive)
Yep - been in places that did both - One share with users folders under them, another place had multiple shares by user - H Drive, or U drive, etc. for userdata. From: Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 12:06 PM Subject: Re: H: (homedrive) Pick your poison...individual shares or folders under a single share. Depends entirely on the enterprise, admin considerations, security considerations, etc. ---Blackberried From: David Lum david@nwea.org Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:18:01 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer //NWEATM Office 503.548.5229//Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MagicJack
All the research I've done shows that DirectTV has more channels at the similar offering levels. At least here they do. Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:53 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack I've been thinking about getting DISH for TV. We have refused to add any extra Comcast services for TV. When I originally got it, we had the basic stuff that came along with the cable connection - so we had a bunch of channels - including FX and SCI FI for a while. Since they've went digital, we have about 10 channels (as we only have Internet and the most Basic TV package we can get) - no boxes. Now, they've sent us another msg telling us we had to get boxes just to watch TV on our older sets. So we got 3 of those for free and have to put those in. Looks like DISH has a good deal too now with Blockbuster and all their included stuff. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I'm in the Midwest market for Comcast and we use them for one work location. I hate dealing with them, can't seem to do anything right. I have Dish at home and when I called them to complain that if I was a new customer I would be paying $20/month less for the exact same package they dropped $10/month from my bill right there. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com]mailto:[mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bodnar@gliccom] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that,
Re: Windows File Archive
Richard, you've been on this list for years and years, regardless of your expertise in IT versus your biology training, you're a peer because you're NOT a n00b ! There are always peers with more or less expertise, within the range of the group. Those that are not peers stand out in obvious, negative ways. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: +1 I have no right to call myself a peer. I am a research biologist by training. It's just that one fateful day, I was told, You're good at fixing computers; you are now our systems administrator!. I cannot adequately express how much I have learned from this forum and how helpful it has been! Ben and ASB have been especially helpful. I've been chided by them and others on occasion, and I admit I deserved it. Still, again, some who subscribe to this forum are folks whose organization have tossed them in over their heads. That's one blanket statement. As to another blanket statement, I did not see the really abusive language until Stu quoted the message. No, such language is definitely NOT acceptable to me and to countless others! -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MagicJack
Thanks Don. Just saw this from earlier.I tried once calling them (yes only once) and should try again. I was trying to get them to offer us a bundle (adding more TV and Phone service) to our Internet and basic cable TV package. I mentioned the current special and he said it's only for new customers. I went into a little loyal customer ran ;) and he said he understood, then suggested I cancel and come in as a new customer.Recently, on another occasion, a guy was going through our neighborhood cold calling and knocking on doors to sell Comcast services. He left a flyer at the house, I called him, and he too said he couldn't help me unless I wanted to cancel my service(for a certain time) and become a "new" customer. I'm not going to cancel my high speed so that wasn't going to work.Maybe I need some good negotiators :) to call them and get us a new deal...Don KFrom: "Guyer, Donald" dgu...@che.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack Don, Comcast will normally give you what you want, if you tell them you are thinking about other vendors. Each year, when my yearly rate goes up (all 3 services), I call and get it lowered back down. Nuisance, but it’s worked for quite some time now. BTW, I’ve often thought about dropping telco from them, but I would end up paying more than the bundle package we currently have, so I just leave it. We don’t even average 1 call a day with our land line. Regards, Don GuyerDirectory and Messaging ServicesCatholic Health East, ITSS From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:10 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for "NEW" customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a "new" customer. Don KFrom: N Parr npar...@mortonind.comTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AMSubject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: MagicJackI was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing.From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: OT: MagicJackI switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of Americawww.guardianlife.com
RE: (homedrive)
That explains things, I never knew it would auto-create the folder and perms! So glad I asked...one more thing I just got more efficient at. Dave From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: (homedrive) We simply populate the Profile Tab, and allow Windows to create the actual folder w/ appropriate rights. Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:18 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Employee Remote Access to Desktop
I haven't checked in a while, did they ever update the Mac client so that a TS Gateway can be entered? I couldn't find a solution to that one a few years ago. Mike From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Employee Remote Access to Desktop Terminal server is what we use. It is built in to the Windows client (or easily downloaded for a Mac). Safe. Easy to setup and to manage. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Rhonda Richardson rrichard...@kcumb.edumailto:rrichard...@kcumb.edu wrote: We currently have 50 - 100 folks that want access to applications (specifically licensed to the desktop) and network resources from home or on the road. For those that have laptops, we plan to provide them with a VPN client to give them access to the network, but the majority of the folks wanting access have desktop PCs. How are others providing this type of access for those that don't have laptops? Thanks. Rhonda ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: H: (homedrive)
We have \\fileserver\home share, with share permissions of Everyone:Full Control, and NTFS permissions of Read/Execute For this Folder Only for Domain Users. These permissions allow people to traverse the share to their home directories. We then specify \\fileserver\home\%username% for home folder specification with the H: drive in ADUC when the user is created. This automagically expands the username and creates the \\fileserver\home\%username% directory with Full Control permissions for %username% on that folder, plus Full Control for Administrators as well. Kurt On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 09:18, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
PC lifecycle?
How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment...I'm just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: H: (homedrive)
For us it's USERNAME$ on the server. Roger Wright ___ ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION: the inability to become excited over any of the choices for President put forth by either party in the 2012 election year On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MagicJack
I didn't see Don's posting, but we'll need the box for our _NEW_ TV's as well. GRRr -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: Now, they've sent us another msg telling us we had to get boxes just to watch TV on our older sets. So we got 3 of those for free and have to put those in. Yah, cable TV is switching to digital broadcasting the same way over-the-air stations did a few years ago. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
FW: (homedrive)
So, using the GPO will create the folder structure as well as set permissions? From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: (homedrive) A single share with each of their folders in there. \\server\users\%username%file:///\\server\users\%25username%25 Self-created with this spiffy MS KB. My favorite KB of all time since we need 7000 new folders every August. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MagicJack
In my experience with them once I got my first set of free receivers from them getting new ones a few years later was not cheap. 'We only do that for new customers' was what I was told several times until I called to cancel, but at that point it was too late for them. I had cable put back in at that point. I just stop by their office and hand them the old box and they hand me a new one whenever a new feature comes out on a box. However a couple of weeks ago I switched to ATT UVerse. They had a killer one year deal. 200 dollar visa card and about 40 bucks a month cheaper. ATT has the whole house DVR, it is very handy. And an app for my Droid to remote record, watch my recordings on the phone... After the year is up I expect them to jack up the rates big time. At which point I will switch again. From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 3:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack Wait until their new receiver comes out. Google Dish Hopper From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack I've been thinking about getting DISH for TV. We have refused to add any extra Comcast services for TV. When I originally got it, we had the basic stuff that came along with the cable connection - so we had a bunch of channels - including FX and SCI FI for a while. Since they've went digital, we have about 10 channels (as we only have Internet and the most Basic TV package we can get) - no boxes. Now, they've sent us another msg telling us we had to get boxes just to watch TV on our older sets. So we got 3 of those for free and have to put those in. Looks like DISH has a good deal too now with Blockbuster and all their included stuff. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I'm in the Midwest market for Comcast and we use them for one work location. I hate dealing with them, can't seem to do anything right. I have Dish at home and when I called them to complain that if I was a new customer I would be paying $20/month less for the exact same package they dropped $10/month from my bill right there. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage
RE: MagicJack
/rant on Yeah... Our provider started spewing commercials when the digital move was going to happen. You don't need to do anything. Your cable will work just fine! You don't need a new TV or convertor. That is until the vouchers were no longer available from the government for the over-the-air convertors. After that they announced they would get getting rid of the analog channels. Oh, they would provide up to 3 convertor boxes for free... for a while... Now they charge for them. AND if you do have a digital TV the channels on it don't match up to the channels on the convertor box. On top of jacking the rates up 10% every year. Gr /rant off -Paul -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: Now, they've sent us another msg telling us we had to get boxes just to watch TV on our older sets. So we got 3 of those for free and have to put those in. Yah, cable TV is switching to digital broadcasting the same way over-the-air stations did a few years ago. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: MagicJack
Years ago, when I was transitioning between jobs (I was finishing up college) my wife called our cable company and said I was unemployed (not really accurate) and that we wanted to cancel service, or at least drop it down to basic cable. We ended up getting more tiers, premium channels, etc for 3 or 6 months or something, and they knocked $20/month off the cable bill. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Don Kuhlman drkuhl...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Don. Just saw this from earlier. I tried once calling them (yes only once) and should try again. I was trying to get them to offer us a bundle (adding more TV and Phone service) to our Internet and basic cable TV package. I mentioned the current special and he said it's only for new customers. I went into a little loyal customer ran ;) and he said he understood, then suggested I cancel and come in as a new customer. Recently, on another occasion, a guy was going through our neighborhood cold calling and knocking on doors to sell Comcast services. He left a flyer at the house, I called him, and he too said he couldn't help me unless I wanted to cancel my service(for a certain time) and become a new customer. I'm not going to cancel my high speed so that wasn't going to work. Maybe I need some good negotiators :) to call them and get us a new deal... Don K -- *From:* Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.org *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Friday, March 9, 2012 10:25 AM *Subject:* RE: MagicJack Don, Comcast will normally give you what you want, if you tell them you are thinking about other vendors. Each year, when my yearly rate goes up (all 3 services), I call and get it lowered back down. Nuisance, but it’s worked for quite some time now. BTW, I’ve often thought about dropping telco from them, but I would end up paying more than the bundle package we currently have, so I just leave it. We don’t even average 1 call a day with our land line. Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS *From:* Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2012 10:10 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K -- *From:* N Parr npar...@mortonind.com *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM *Subject:* RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. -- *From:* Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks
RE: Windows File Archive
... It's just that one fateful day, I was told, You're good at fixing computers; you are now our systems administrator!. And that's different than the rest of us...how? :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows File Archive +1 I have no right to call myself a peer. I am a research biologist by training. It's just that one fateful day, I was told, You're good at fixing computers; you are now our systems administrator!. I cannot adequately express how much I have learned from this forum and how helpful it has been! Ben and ASB have been especially helpful. I've been chided by them and others on occasion, and I admit I deserved it. Still, again, some who subscribe to this forum are folks whose organization have tossed them in over their heads. That's one blanket statement. As to another blanket statement, I did not see the really abusive language until Stu quoted the message. No, such language is definitely NOT acceptable to me and to countless others! -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals?? (ASPCA??) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MagicJack
Exactly what I went through a few years ago with Dish. When I called to cancel THEN they had a deal. That last month when I went from Cox Cable to ATT…same thing…Cox had no deals until I was calling to cancel. It is maddening. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 3:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack Thanks Don. Just saw this from earlier. I tried once calling them (yes only once) and should try again. I was trying to get them to offer us a bundle (adding more TV and Phone service) to our Internet and basic cable TV package. I mentioned the current special and he said it's only for new customers. I went into a little loyal customer ran ;) and he said he understood, then suggested I cancel and come in as a new customer. Recently, on another occasion, a guy was going through our neighborhood cold calling and knocking on doors to sell Comcast services. He left a flyer at the house, I called him, and he too said he couldn't help me unless I wanted to cancel my service(for a certain time) and become a new customer. I'm not going to cancel my high speed so that wasn't going to work. Maybe I need some good negotiators :) to call them and get us a new deal... Don K From: Guyer, Donald dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 10:25 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack Don, Comcast will normally give you what you want, if you tell them you are thinking about other vendors. Each year, when my yearly rate goes up (all 3 services), I call and get it lowered back down. Nuisance, but it’s worked for quite some time now. BTW, I’ve often thought about dropping telco from them, but I would end up paying more than the bundle package we currently have, so I just leave it. We don’t even average 1 call a day with our land line. Regards, Don Guyer Directory and Messaging Services Catholic Health East, ITSS From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com]mailto:[mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot,
Re: (homedrive)
The below kb is a a godsend. Fixing perms after the fact on file share is a major PITA. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote: A single share with each of their folders in there. \\server\users\%username% Self-created with this spiffy MS KB. My favorite KB of all time since we need 7000 new folders every August. ** ** http://support.microsoft.com/kb/274443 ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2012 1:00 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* H: (homedrive) ** ** Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? *David Lum* Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MagicJack
Just called my cable provider (internet, cable ) and asked how much it would be to add telephone to the existing package. About $20/month. So $240/year compared to MJ at $39/year. Just can't understand why they can't bundle that cheaper for existing customers. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 03/09/2012 12:29 PM Subject:RE: MagicJack I'm in the Midwest market for Comcast and we use them for one work location. I hate dealing with them, can't seem to do anything right. I have Dish at home and when I called them to complain that if I was a new customer I would be paying $20/month less for the exact same package they dropped $10/month from my bill right there. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MagicJack I switched over to MagicJack, got my existing number ported. All went well. No complaints. Can anyone confirm that there are no hidden monthly taxes or fees? I switched from Ooma because of that, and as far as I was able to tell there shouldn't be any. Thanks Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any
RE: MagicJack
That is the conclusion I came to as well. And I bet some DirectTV folks would provide their account numbers offline to get you a discount and a bonus back to them as well From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 11:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack All the research I've done shows that DirectTV has more channels at the similar offering levels. At least here they do. Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:53 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack I've been thinking about getting DISH for TV. We have refused to add any extra Comcast services for TV. When I originally got it, we had the basic stuff that came along with the cable connection - so we had a bunch of channels - including FX and SCI FI for a while. Since they've went digital, we have about 10 channels (as we only have Internet and the most Basic TV package we can get) - no boxes. Now, they've sent us another msg telling us we had to get boxes just to watch TV on our older sets. So we got 3 of those for free and have to put those in. Looks like DISH has a good deal too now with Blockbuster and all their included stuff. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 10:45 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I'm in the Midwest market for Comcast and we use them for one work location. I hate dealing with them, can't seem to do anything right. I have Dish at home and when I called them to complain that if I was a new customer I would be paying $20/month less for the exact same package they dropped $10/month from my bill right there. From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]mailto:[mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MagicJack FWIW, I've had Vonage for about 4 years or so. Originally had their unlimited $24.99 single line monthly plan that ended up costing about $28.00 per month after fees and taxes. I called and asked if there were discounts for paying in bulk. They said yes so I went with a 1 year contract which put it back to about $25.00 per month with all the taxes and fees in there. The catch was that they automatically renew it. I didn't want them to, but they re-billed me for another year, we had a fight about it, and I had to settle with them for $140 for services they charged me. So I left them, lost my phone number and had no service for a few months while I was shopping around (ATT, Comcast package, etc.). No one seemed to be able to come close so I went back to Vonage. This time I got their basic $14.99 / month package that has about 300 minutes monthly. They sent me a new box and the monthly charges are about $17.00 after fees. The fax seems to work better than it did with the old box I had which sounds like the QOS is on the newer hardware. It didn't work very well with the older box. I'm still trying to see about getting Comcast for the Internet, TV, and phone (Midwest market), but they tell me their specials are only for NEW customers. That really blows my mind, because I've had their Internet and basic TV for almost 9 years. You would think they would want to keep loyal customers and offer some incentives, but they don't. The sales guy said to cancel your service, and then you can come back as a new customer. Don K From: N Parr npar...@mortonind.commailto:npar...@mortonind.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 8:35 AM Subject: RE: MagicJack I've done quite a bit of research on fax/modem capabilities of VOIP services. I was trying to find a solution that would give me a analog line at a piece of equipment that had a modem for tech support to dial in to. From what I can tell Vonage is the only service that a fax line works well with and is somewhat supported. All the others are a cr@pmailto:cr@p shoot and if you can connect will be flaky and almost unusable speeds. According to what I read Vonage works because they do QOS on the device itself. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com]mailto:[mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 8:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MagicJack I was also thinking of switching from Vonage to Magicjack because they keep going up with fees and increases. Have you tested faxing yet? I do not fax a lot, but with Vonage it has not been an issue, but reading the post it looks like MJ may not be as reliable for multi-page faxing.
RE: (homedrive)
We find that the default permissions created by Windows when you populate the Profile Tab to be... less than optimal in our case. We have students who get Full Control of their folders. Thus, they will grant permissions to other students read and/or write access, so they can copy their work. It's a 21's century version looking at somebody else's answers on the test. To fix this, I have created a script that sets the permissions for the folders. It breaks inherent permissions, and applies the permissions I want. The users end up with Read, Write, Execute. I will on occasion repeat something when issues with permissions arise: Permissions are Evil. But they are a necessary Evil. This is especially true in [Linux|unix]. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:24:45 -0800 Subject: RE: (homedrive) That explains things, I never knew it would auto-create the folder and perms! So glad I asked...one more thing I just got more efficient at. Dave From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: (homedrive) We simply populate the Profile Tab, and allow Windows to create the actual folder w/ appropriate rights. Joe Heaton ITB - Windows Server Support From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]mailto:[mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:18 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: H: (homedrive) Do you guys create individual shares for each user, or do something different? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PC lifecycle?
We would like to keep our systems on a 4 year lifecycle. But, we also purchase refurbished computers with 3 year warranties. Occasionally we will get brand new systems. Also, that does not mean we still have some computers from 2004 still in the field. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:12:44 -0800 Subject: PC lifecycle? How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment...I'm just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC lifecycle?
%dayjob% starts cycling out at 3 years and very few make it past 4. Org of 500+ %nightjob% I do 5 year cycle for the bigger client (55PC's) with some systems going to 6 (infrequent use role-assigned PC's). In both cases the newest of the old are kept as immediate replacement stand-ins for KIA systems. Dave From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC lifecycle? How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment...I'm just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC lifecycle?
I have one client that has (get ready to cringe) desktops that are 9 years old. Most others attempt to replace in a 3-4 year cycle. For me and my employees, it's about 2 years. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC lifecycle? How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment...I'm just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Employee Remote Access to Desktop
Yes. From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Employee Remote Access to Desktop I haven't checked in a while, did they ever update the Mac client so that a TS Gateway can be entered? I couldn't find a solution to that one a few years ago. Mike From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Employee Remote Access to Desktop Terminal server is what we use. It is built in to the Windows client (or easily downloaded for a Mac). Safe. Easy to setup and to manage. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Rhonda Richardson rrichard...@kcumb.edumailto:rrichard...@kcumb.edu wrote: We currently have 50 - 100 folks that want access to applications (specifically licensed to the desktop) and network resources from home or on the road. For those that have laptops, we plan to provide them with a VPN client to give them access to the network, but the majority of the folks wanting access have desktop PCs. How are others providing this type of access for those that don't have laptops? Thanks. Rhonda ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PC lifecycle?
At my work we keep them for 5 to 7 years. We buy decent laptops for our Project Managers (currently the HP EliteBook 8560w) and they use them for 3 to 4 years before we replace them. Their laptops are then passed to the foremen out in the field where they hopefully last a few more years. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:12 PM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: ** How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment…I’m just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Thank you, Mike Sullivan ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PC lifecycle?
We have been three years for notebooks and 4 years for desktops. Our environment is mostly notebooks. I'm planning to increase the lifecycle of notebooks to 4 years, since there don't seem to be a lot of changes these past few years. Also moving to SSDs. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: ** How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment…I’m just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PC lifecycle?
We refresh every 4 years. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2012, at 4:45 PM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment…I’m just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts?
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTwr7F6Kdwx7YkG9LehP2LJXrGBE8VcHOfKewu7i0u76T1YDwscftLW1Pmq On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 06:57, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself… http://www.robomow.com/home.html From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? Both my washing machine and lawn mower came from Sears. The washing machine was built when things were meant to last and I will be saddened when it spins down for the last time for I know not where I’ll find a new one that will last as long. The lawn mower does what I need it to do, although if I could only get it to mow the yard all by itself… -Paul From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win 8 CP - Initial thoughts? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Re: Windows File Archive
I don't have an issue with the attack, per se. I have an issue with the language. I rarely talk that way (and I have to be really angry or really drunk) and I just don't like it. And, in general, I'll give people a couple of freebies before I start with the LMGTFY or putting them in my kill file (of which there are 3 right now on this list) or with the Dude, you are an idiot. But that's just me. And quite frankly, it made me laugh. :) From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Re: Windows File Archive raises hand +1 As an ex-journeyman in the trades I loved the apprentice metaphor you used earlier Micheal. I switched professions a long time ago but a lot of the same wisdom prevails. We just call it mentoring in this profession. Been around both here and in general way too long to be too thick-skinned but I do try to respect the wishes of others as much as I can. I am fairly rough around the edges but I realize that is totally unacceptable to *some* others so I try to temper my response. I also learned a long time ago both in the real world and the virtual one to thoroughly survey the room before I opened my mouth. I completely with Steve K where he said it just lowers the bar and loses good people to coddle laziness (I deand the conversation so that is my interpretation of what he said) Look at what joe richards recently said on his blog [1] about why he doesn't answer questions on activedir like he used to. It's a pretty succinct example. The rest of us all loose an extraordinary resource. I have been complaining about that for 10 years here. It just dilutes the response pool because a lot of people have better things to do than do other people's job for them. [2] This particular group is better at smacking down some of that behavior although some find it offensive. My advice- Get over it, it was a lot worse in the past and it still pops up periodically for entertainment purposes and so Stu can exercise his list admin admonishments :) [1] http://blog.joeware.net/2012/01/24/2418/ [2] http://blog.joeware.net/2011/04/14/2238/ From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive It seems clear to me that he's referring to a segment of the group that doesn't include you. Class, shall we have a show of hands? raises hand -- Espi On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Required Active Directory Administrator/6+months Contract/Lake Success,NY
As far as I can tell, nothing ever slowed down... Each of the last 3 years have been record breaking for me. What about the last year for you Web? From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Fw: Required Active Directory Administrator/6+months Contract/Lake Success,NY FYI - looks like business is picking up... - Forwarded Message - From: Shubham shub...@okayainfo.commailto:shub...@okayainfo.com To: drkuhl...@yahoo.commailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com drkuhl...@yahoo.commailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 12:09 PM Subject: Required Active Directory Administrator/6+months Contract/Lake Success,NY Hi Don Kuhlman Hope you are doing well!! We currently have an exciting opportunity with a great client; you’ll find details of the position below. Even if you’re not a fit for this particular position, we welcome a current copy of your resume and look forward to working together on future positions Title: Active Directory Administrator Duration: 6+ Months (Contract) Location: Lake Success,NY Face To Face Interview Required Details: · Client is looking for a Active Directory Administrator to do Administration of Windows servers. The person will be responsible for migrating AD Servers. Data Center with an emphasis on: Active Directory migration, formalizing a Patching process, getting servers up to standards · Responsible for managing the Active Directory environment which will include all regular maintenance, upgrades, Group Policy management and troubleshooting Key skills are strong active directory and have supported around 3,000 to 5,000 users Thanks Regards, Shubham OKAYA Inc. Where Commitment Is A Passion 99 Mark Tree Road, Suite 304 Centereach, NY 11720 Phone : 631-267-4883 x 259 Fax : 631-389-2446 Email : shub...@okayainfo.commailto:shub...@okayainfo.com URL : http://www.okayainfo.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC lifecycle?
I'm sure many of us have some older. Until recently, I had a DOS only machine. My current oldest is still running Windows 98. But I digress. Some people (power users) I try to swap out at 3 - 4 years. Most go 5 or 6, some go longer (occasional email check or very light surfer). Mark From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC lifecycle? How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment...I'm just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PC lifecycle?
two years On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:12 PM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: ** How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment…I’m just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Probable Contrarian ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PC lifecycle?
Our lease cycle was 3 years. With the slowing down of hardware requirements, etc, we are moving to a 4 year cycle for both servers and desktops. Laptops are still 3 year because they suffer a bit more travel abuse but we are also reducing the amount of laptops through using Citrix, etc. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:12 PM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: ** How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment…I’m just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: [Bulk] RE: PC lifecycle?
I'm still running PC's that are P4's that were on site when I started here more than 7 years ago. We drive them until they die and we replace with used. For us it's budget as well. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 4:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [Bulk] RE: PC lifecycle? It used to be 3 years until the economy hit the crapper. Now we drive 'em until they die. -Paul From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC lifecycle? How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment.I'm just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4860 - Release Date: 03/09/12 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PC lifecycle?
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:12 PM, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? Varies. We've got some that are prolly 10 years old, but all they do is run the lightweight client for the ERP software for factory floor job entry. It's about one step up from a dumb terminal. We also tend to do a lot of hand-me-down. Many of our users verge on computer illiterate and don't need much. The power users and bigwigs get newer machines and get new ones more often. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Required Active Directory Administrator/6+months Contract/Lake Success,NY
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: As far as I can tell, nothing ever slowed down... Each of the last 3 years have been record breaking for me. The really good people are always in high demand. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: PC lifecycle?
Same here. We have 5 year old computers in production. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 04:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: PC lifecycle? It used to be 3 years until the economy hit the crapper. Now we drive ‘em until they die. -Paul From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC lifecycle? How long do you folks keep PCs and laptops in your organizations? 4? 5? 6 years? My oldest are a few from 2006. I am thinking I should start replacing after they hit 5 years (4 years if heavy user/issues). I know it will depend on the business environment…I’m just trying to get some idea as to what others do. Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Required Active Directory Administrator/6+months Contract/Lake Success,NY
AMEN! This year is a killer for me. :) If I worked with XenDesktop or NetScaler I could get even more work! Why, I am not doing much between 1 to 5 A.M. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Michael Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com Subject: RE: Required Active Directory Administrator/6+months Contract/Lake Success,NY As far as I can tell, nothing ever slowed down... Each of the last 3 years have been record breaking for me. What about the last year for you Web? From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] Subject: Fw: Required Active Directory Administrator/6+months Contract/Lake Success,NY FYI - looks like business is picking up... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Re: Windows File Archive
I rarely talk that way (and I have to be really angry or really drunk) and I just don’t like it. Dude, you are like a pillar of knowledge to me, no matter how busy I am, I read at least your posts. The thought of you drunk A) Is hilarious, and B) Humanizes you from that pillar I have you on. Awesome... jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Re: Windows File Archive
I remember that! Just let it go Erik John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 05:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Re: Windows File Archive I had forgotten about that. ☺ From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 4:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Re: Windows File Archive Hey Bob, Given the way the 'Carpet Boy' moniker was used earlier, 7 or 8 years ago when you called me 'Ham Boy' was your intent the same ? :P Erik On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com wrote: raises hand +1 As an ex-journeyman in the trades I loved the apprentice metaphor you used earlier Micheal. I switched professions a long time ago but a lot of the same wisdom prevails. We just call it “mentoring� in this profession. Been around both here and in general way too long to be too thick-skinned but I do try to respect the wishes of others as much as I can. I am fairly rough around the edges but I realize that is totally unacceptable to *some* others so I try to temper my response. I also learned a long time ago both in the real world and the virtual one to thoroughly survey the room before I opened my mouth. I completely with Steve K where he said it just lowers the bar and loses good people to coddle laziness (I deand the conversation so that is my interpretation of what he said) Look at what joe richards recently said on his blog [1] about why he doesn’t answer questions on activedir like he used to. It’s a pretty succinct example. The rest of us all loose an extraordinary resource. I have been complaining about that for 10 years here. It just dilutes the response pool because a lot of people have better things to do than do other people’s job for them. [2] This particular group is better at smacking down some of that behavior although some find it offensive. My advice- Get over it, it was a lot worse in the past and it still pops up periodically for entertainment purposes and so Stu can exercise his list admin admonishments ☺ [1] http://blog.joeware.net/2012/01/24/2418/ [2] http://blog.joeware.net/2011/04/14/2238/ From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive It seems clear to me that he's referring to a segment of the group that doesn't include you. Class, shall we have a show of hands? raises hand -- Espi On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really
Re: Windows File Archive
Well, it's different than how I did it. I was working in a reasonably responsible customer service position in the credit department of a fairly large organization when I received notification that there was an opening on the data processing/mainframe helpdesk. I jumped on that immediately The hiring manager knew I was interested in computers, but cared more about my phone skills - she asked me several questions designed to elicit my ability to give directions and understand people as they operated line printers and 3270 terminals and cash registers and suchlike. Those customer service skills, augmented by a never-completed 2-year programming curriculum from a few years before that, which included some JCL, 360 assembler, COBOL, Fortran RPG III, etc., got me hired. Aside from running a few bits of JCL, I never took advantage of the programming I learned, but later got involved with supporting folks running MS Office products on IBM PS/2s, stringing cat3 cables for 16mbit TokenRing and SNA for Win3.1and Novell 3.11. The rest, as they say, is history. She and a couple of other managers there were among the best I ever had, too. I have thanked each one of them over the years after I left that firm, and I still miss them. Kurt On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:58, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: ... It's just that one fateful day, I was told, You're good at fixing computers; you are now our systems administrator!. And that's different than the rest of us...how? :-) Dave -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows File Archive +1 I have no right to call myself a peer. I am a research biologist by training. It's just that one fateful day, I was told, You're good at fixing computers; you are now our systems administrator!. I cannot adequately express how much I have learned from this forum and how helpful it has been! Ben and ASB have been especially helpful. I've been chided by them and others on occasion, and I admit I deserved it. Still, again, some who subscribe to this forum are folks whose organization have tossed them in over their heads. That's one blanket statement. As to another blanket statement, I did not see the really abusive language until Stu quoted the message. No, such language is definitely NOT acceptable to me and to countless others! -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals?? (ASPCA??) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
Re: Windows File Archive
Aldrich belongs on a tech mailing list about as much as I belong at a meeting with the Pope. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 23:33:17 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Windows File Archive I guess John has moved on. I, for one, will miss his (indirect) contributions to the list. They were often the catalyst for some fairly decent discussions. http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmaldrich From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Jesus fucking christ. what are you, carpet boys' twin? From: Cesare' A. Ramos cra...@idfllc.commailto:cra...@idfllc.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:09:34 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Re: Windows File Archive
/lurk I wonder if Chris Peden knows how famous he has become --Steve Lurk Sent with BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Free, Bob r...@pge.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 22:59:20 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Re: Windows File Archive Absolutely not, that was a term of endearment in your case :) Carpet Boy OTOH, was best swept under the rug with Peden. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 1:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [dkim-failure] Re: Re: Windows File Archive Hey Bob, Given the way the 'Carpet Boy' moniker was used earlier, 7 or 8 years ago when you called me 'Ham Boy' was your intent the same ? :P Erik On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.commailto:r...@pge.com wrote: raises hand +1 As an ex-journeyman in the trades I loved the apprentice metaphor you used earlier Micheal. I switched professions a long time ago but a lot of the same wisdom prevails. We just call it mentoring in this profession. Been around both here and in general way too long to be too thick-skinned but I do try to respect the wishes of others as much as I can. I am fairly rough around the edges but I realize that is totally unacceptable to *some* others so I try to temper my response. I also learned a long time ago both in the real world and the virtual one to thoroughly survey the room before I opened my mouth. I completely with Steve K where he said it just lowers the bar and loses good people to coddle laziness (I deand the conversation so that is my interpretation of what he said) Look at what joe richards recently said on his blog [1] about why he doesn't answer questions on activedir like he used to. It's a pretty succinct example. The rest of us all loose an extraordinary resource. I have been complaining about that for 10 years here. It just dilutes the response pool because a lot of people have better things to do than do other people's job for them. [2] This particular group is better at smacking down some of that behavior although some find it offensive. My advice- Get over it, it was a lot worse in the past and it still pops up periodically for entertainment purposes and so Stu can exercise his list admin admonishments :) [1] http://blog.joeware.net/2012/01/24/2418/ [2] http://blog.joeware.net/2011/04/14/2238/ From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive It seems clear to me that he's referring to a segment of the group that doesn't include you. Class, shall we have a show of hands? raises hand -- Espi On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.commailto:dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
