RE: Fortigate (was Guest network security)
You may wish to inquire with your reseller about a trade-back. I had a number of 40C devices, upgraded the firmware per support's recommendation, and it was a disaster. Utilization skyrocketed on all of them and it turned out to be one of the core services that I could not disable, and it caused the VPN tunnel to constantly drop (this didn't start until a few weeks after the firmware was upgraded). I worked out a pretty good deal with my reseller for the next model up for a great price. I only got this deal after I told the reseller (who was very helpful) that I'd be happy to dump Fortinet and go with a competitor. Fortinet probably removed some features because the lower-end machines couldn't handle the required workload, I'm guessing. I didn't see the issue on the higher models I used. From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Fortigate (was Guest network security) I came across the same issue with a recently purchased 40C and was also disappointed. The 60C (soon to be 60D with 2 x the performance) has the traffic shaping option and pretty much everything else. Maybe I didn't look hard enough but it certainly isn't made obvious on their website that the lower end models have features missing. James. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013 2:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security) One note: It looks like Traffic Shaping and the Explicit Web Proxy option are no longer available under the new OS for certain pieces of hardware, including my 40C. I suspect that anything in the SOHO range had it removed. I'm going to downgrade to v4.0 MR3 patch 11, as advised by support. That's not cool. :( I've asked to see if that functionality will be brought back into the device... (Actually, I found that MR3 patch 12 was released on the 13th, so I've downgraded to that) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.commailto:sca...@gmail.com wrote: Good to know, thanks! From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 8:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security) Version 5.0 installed smoothly. The visual changes are somewhat minimal for now, but the performance of the UI improved. Can't say for the rest of the device (performance wise) as I haven't finished migrating to it. The backups are much smaller under 5.0 than under v4 ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I will, as soon as I finish setting this device up today. :) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.commailto:sca...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Fortigate... (Much love btw). Has anyone taken the jump to V5 of the OS yet? They've patched it once or twice already; should be stable. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Guest network security Whoa!!! That looks awesome. Man, I could really have gone for that a few weeks back. My Fortigate 40C arrives tomorrow. :) ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: I chose to build a new system so it would be small and silent rather than use an old computer lying around the house. I went with: Intel D2500CCE fanless mini-ITX motherboard (Dual core 1.86 GHz Atom CPU with dual Intel NICs onboard) 4 GB RAM 128GB Vertex 4 SSD It has been in 'production' for a couple of weeks now, and is stable and very fast. I also really like having the content filtering and antivirus capabilities of a UTM firewall at home. The management interface is a little weird at first, but you get used to it. I demo'ed the software in a VirtualBox VM for a week or so before pulling the trigger on the hardware expense. If anyone is interested, the page at Sophos describing the offering is: http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-utm-home-edition.aspx On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Our Sidewinders are EOL at the end of April, and my
RE: OT: MCM certification
If it’s going to be competing with the cost of a college degree it’s crazy. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification I suppose one issue is that for every person that says “$20,000 is too much, it should be $10,000 and lots more people would do it”, there’s another person that will say “$10,000 is too much, it should be $5,000 and lots more people would do it”, and so on. Cheers Ken From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013 7:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification Don't want to keep on this thread, it's obvious that most of you are in disagreement with me. I'm OK with that. But to your comment: I think I get who the certification is targeting. My point is that I think there is a larger population out there that might be interested in and possibly be valid candidates for, this certification in mid sized shops, but the cost is prohibitive. And I understand that there has to be a fee for this. And I even agree that MS isn't really making money off this. But just doing some basic numbers (I may be way off on these figures so don't crucify me on this). If there are 4 sessions a year in any given track (SQL, Messaging, DS, etc...)That's 100 people that need to pay for the course. Thats' $1.4milliion. Even say they cut this in half, they would only be reducing their revenue by $750K per track. In terms of MS, that is peanuts. This is not a revenue stream for MS, they are just trying to recoup some of the costs. But this would open it up to a much larger pool of potential candidates. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:02/14/2013 02:59 PM Subject:Re: OT: MCM certification _ Chris, if you look at who that certification is targeting, the ROI is very, very straightforward. Lowering the price wouldn't lower the barrier that much, and the cost of the overall process must come from somewhere. ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market… On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Was reading this yesterday: http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 And got to thinking about this again. It still bothers me that the road to this certification is artificially blocked by monetary constraints. I think the certification is difficult enough without adding that as a factor to reduce the overall numbers just to increase the value of this certification. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I know I wont' even consider this certification, just based on the cost. Not that I think I would pass, or that I even think I'm ready for something like this. I don't work for MS and I'm not a consultant. Which from what I've seen are the 2 primary groups of people seeking this certification. My employer would never consider this strictly based on cost and ROI. Anyone else of the same opinion? Or am I way off base here? Chris ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security)
Yes, they took out the functionality from firmware on some of the models. I downgraded to v4.0, but only really lost some of the GUI ease, and the device identification stuff. I got back the web proxy, and the traffic shaping control, which is what I cared about. They suggested that it was because of performance issues why they removed the features, but I'm still annoyed. It's not like those features are mandatory, or that it is so hard to get them working on even less hardware. I still have an 11-year old Netscreen 5XP that does traffic shaping. If it could support multiple WANs and had better than a 10mbit interface, I would be inclined to use it still. Yes, the UI was slow, but the performance of the device itself was fine. They're just hurting themselves if they cut out the low-end. I've downloaded the Sophos UTM appliance and will look at this for viability for customers. http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-utm-essential-firewall.aspx (Thanks, James!) Another option that I looked at, although it's not *quite* there for SOHO is ZyXel. I had a USG-50 which is a very cool device, but the features are a little quirky, and they tied some of what should be core (like traffic shaping) to subscription services. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833181137 I also saw lots of complaints about the SSL tunnels, although I didn't try it myself. If Fortinet stops bringing value to the low-end of the spectrum, they'll lose in the end, because the SOHO and SMB market is ripe for a solid product, and those people are going to be more inclined to go with a name brand (like SonicWall) or with cost (like ZyXel) than play the feature roulette. There is no place on their website that clearly states which models are lacking which functionality items under v5, and that's the worst part of this whole ordeal. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:03 PM, James Hill falc...@gmail.com wrote: I came across the same issue with a recently purchased 40C and was also disappointed. ** ** The 60C (soon to be 60D with 2 x the performance) has the traffic shaping option and pretty much everything else. ** ** Maybe I didn’t look hard enough but it certainly isn’t made obvious on their website that the lower end models have features missing. ** ** James. ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, 15 February 2013 2:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security) ** ** One note: It looks like Traffic Shaping and the Explicit Web Proxy option are no longer available under the new OS for certain pieces of hardware, including my 40C. I suspect that anything in the SOHO range had it removed. ** ** I'm going to downgrade to v4.0 MR3 patch 11, as advised by support. ** ** That's not cool. :( ** ** I've asked to see if that functionality will be brought back into the device... (Actually, I found that MR3 patch 12 was released on the 13th, so I've downgraded to that) *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* ** ** On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Good to know, thanks! *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 08, 2013 8:10 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security) Version 5.0 installed smoothly. The visual changes are somewhat minimal for now, but the performance of the UI improved. Can't say for the rest of the device (performance wise) as I haven't finished migrating to it. The backups are much smaller under 5.0 than under v4 *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I will, as soon as I finish setting this device up today. :) *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Fortigate… (Much love btw). Has anyone taken the jump to V5 of the OS yet? They’ve patched it once or twice already; should be stable. *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:06 PM *To:* NT
Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security)
*Fortinet probably removed some features because the lower-end machines couldn’t handle the required workload, I’m guessing.* ** We know that there will be tradeoffs with UTM. If a device can't handle it, then I'll make the decision to go with a larger device, or change the priorities of my desired features.However, if you remove the features from a device that *used* to support it, I'm going to consider a different vendor, not a different device. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 6:29 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: You may wish to inquire with your reseller about a trade-back. I had a number of 40C devices, upgraded the firmware per support’s recommendation, and it was a disaster. Utilization skyrocketed on all of them and it turned out to be one of the core services that I could not disable, and it caused the VPN tunnel to constantly drop (this didn’t start until a few weeks after the firmware was upgraded). I worked out a pretty good deal with my reseller for the next model up for a great price. I only got this deal after I told the reseller (who was very helpful) that I’d be happy to dump Fortinet and go with a competitor. ** ** Fortinet probably removed some features because the lower-end machines couldn’t handle the required workload, I’m guessing. ** ** I didn’t see the issue on the higher models I used. ** ** *From:* James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:04 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Fortigate (was Guest network security) ** ** I came across the same issue with a recently purchased 40C and was also disappointed. ** ** The 60C (soon to be 60D with 2 x the performance) has the traffic shaping option and pretty much everything else. ** ** Maybe I didn’t look hard enough but it certainly isn’t made obvious on their website that the lower end models have features missing. ** ** James. ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, 15 February 2013 2:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security) ** ** One note: It looks like Traffic Shaping and the Explicit Web Proxy option are no longer available under the new OS for certain pieces of hardware, including my 40C. I suspect that anything in the SOHO range had it removed. ** ** I'm going to downgrade to v4.0 MR3 patch 11, as advised by support. ** ** That's not cool. :( ** ** I've asked to see if that functionality will be brought back into the device... (Actually, I found that MR3 patch 12 was released on the 13th, so I've downgraded to that) *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* ** ** On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Good to know, thanks! *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 08, 2013 8:10 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Fortigate (was Guest network security) Version 5.0 installed smoothly. The visual changes are somewhat minimal for now, but the performance of the UI improved. Can't say for the rest of the device (performance wise) as I haven't finished migrating to it. The backups are much smaller under 5.0 than under v4 *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: I will, as soon as I finish setting this device up today. :) *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Fortigate… (Much love btw). Has anyone taken the jump to V5 of the OS yet? They’ve patched it once or twice already; should be stable. *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 8:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Guest network security Whoa!!! That looks awesome. Man, I could really have gone for that a few weeks back. My Fortigate 40C arrives tomorrow. :) *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT
Re: OT: MCM certification
Most college degrees are some multiple of the number in question -- usually 4x minimum. If people coming straight out of college can pass this test, or have the credentials for this level of work, then I could see your point. Again, Microsoft does not appear to be targeting this to ye ol' admin so, I'm not sure why the inability of ye ol' admin to get access to it is perceived as a negative. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Ray rz...@qwest.net wrote: If it’s going to be competing with the cost of a college degree it’s crazy. ** ** *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:28 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: MCM certification ** ** I suppose one issue is that for every person that says “$20,000 is too much, it should be $10,000 and lots more people would do it”, there’s another person that will say “$10,000 is too much, it should be $5,000 and lots more people would do it”, and so on. ** ** Cheers Ken ** ** *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.comchristopher_bod...@glic.com] *Sent:* Friday, 15 February 2013 7:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: MCM certification ** ** Don't want to keep on this thread, it's obvious that most of you are in disagreement with me. I'm OK with that. But to your comment: I think I get who the certification is targeting. My point is that I think there is a larger population out there that might be interested in and possibly be valid candidates for, this certification in mid sized shops, but the cost is prohibitive. And I understand that there has to be a fee for this. And I even agree that MS isn't really making money off this. But just doing some basic numbers (I may be way off on these figures so don't crucify me on this). If there are 4 sessions a year in any given track (SQL, Messaging, DS, etc...)That's 100 people that need to pay for the course. Thats' $1.4milliion. Even say they cut this in half, they would only be reducing their revenue by $750K per track. In terms of MS, that is peanuts. This is not a revenue stream for MS, they are just trying to recoup some of the costs. But this would open it up to a much larger pool of potential candidates. *Christopher Bodnar* Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com * The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America* * *www.guardianlife.com From:Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:02/14/2013 02:59 PM Subject:Re: OT: MCM certification -- Chris, if you look at who that certification is targeting, the ROI is very, very straightforward. Lowering the price wouldn't lower the barrier that much, and the cost of the overall process must come from somewhere. *ASB** **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Was reading this yesterday: * *http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 And got to thinking about this again. It still bothers me that the road to this certification is artificially blocked by monetary constraints. I think the certification is difficult enough without adding that as a factor to reduce the overall numbers just to increase the value of this certification. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I know I wont' even consider this certification, just based on the cost. Not that I think I would pass, or that I even think I'm ready for something like this. I don't work for MS and I'm not a consultant. Which from what I've seen are the 2 primary groups of people seeking this certification. My employer would never consider this strictly based on cost and ROI. Anyone else of the same opinion? Or am I way off base here? Chris ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or
RE: File limitation error:updated
No the Z drive was on my machine. The error also occurs on the actual file server. MFT - I was thinking something along those lines, too. There is a program called contig.exe that is supposed to fix fragmentation issues with index files but I told my boss I'm not running that unless PSS tells me to. I'd hate to have it screw things up so bad we have to start over. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: File limitation error:updated That's awesome! Same number of digits, but it doesn't like the name. And, it's nowhere near the path length limitations we've discussed. MFT fragmentation perhaps? Is that Z: drive local to the machine, or is it mapped to a share on another machine? Just curious - it shouldn't make a difference... I am now officially consumed with curiousity - do keep posting updates. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Non-corp desktops and RDS
How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Server 2012 failover DHCP
I've set it up in the lab, and plan on deploying it at a client in late March. But I don't have a real-world implementation yet. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2012 failover DHCP Is anyone running a pair of Server 2012 DHCP servers with a high availability set up? http://blogs.technet.com/b/teamdhcp/archive/2012/06/28/ensuring-high-availability-of-dhcp-using-windows-server-2012-dhcp-failover.aspx We are looking to add some HA to our DHCP configuration, as currently we're not even running an 80/20 setup. David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Sounds like a good UAT period is needed to iron out the app inconsistencies. Its all about the apps. Apps apps apps. If your user base doesn't have well-defined application needs and they customize their own desktops, then maybe VDI is more suited than published resources from RDS? --Original Message-- From: Kennedy, Jim To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS Sent: 15 Feb 2013 15:03 How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
We have just now started looking into this. We saw a demo of Aventail, and were quite impressed. We have a few more demos set up, but so far this one was the only outstanding one. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: File limitation error:updated
If your contig.exe is the one I'm thinking of (from the sysinternals crew), then it might be reasonable to just use the -a option to analyse current defragmentation without actually rearranging things. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897428.aspx There used to be commercial programs that did MFT defragmentation - Diskeeper was one of them, and also the Winternals Defrag Manager.. Don't know if they're still around, though. Kurt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Chinnery, Paul pa...@mmcwm.com wrote: No the Z drive was on my machine. The error also occurs on the actual file server. MFT - I was thinking something along those lines, too. There is a program called contig.exe that is supposed to fix fragmentation issues with index files but I told my boss I'm not running that unless PSS tells me to. I'd hate to have it screw things up so bad we have to start over. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: File limitation error:updated That's awesome! Same number of digits, but it doesn't like the name. And, it's nowhere near the path length limitations we've discussed. MFT fragmentation perhaps? Is that Z: drive local to the machine, or is it mapped to a share on another machine? Just curious - it shouldn't make a difference... I am now officially consumed with curiousity - do keep posting updates. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Instead of RDP over VPN, have you looked at RD Gateway? It does require terminal server licences for the users, but eliminates the kind of issues you're describing by tunneling only RDP over SSL and nothing else. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
+1! Once things like PCI compliance require 2-factor authentication, there are things about company-issued hardware (MAC addresses, installed certificates, etc) which work as one of the factors. Multiple passwords are NOT multi-factor for PCI. -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
I will give that a try. I have RDS User licenses galore. We use them in labs. From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS Instead of RDP over VPN, have you looked at RD Gateway? It does require terminal server licences for the users, but eliminates the kind of issues you're describing by tunneling only RDP over SSL and nothing else. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Ah right, I thought you meant app issues on the RDS end :-) my bad for not reading thoroughly Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY -Original Message- From: Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:49:58 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS Instead of RDP over VPN, have you looked at RD Gateway? It does require terminal server licences for the users, but eliminates the kind of issues you're describing by tunneling only RDP over SSL and nothing else. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
Multiple passwords are not multi-factor for anybody. :-) Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com -Original Message- From: Richard McClary [mailto:richard.mccl...@aspca.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS +1! Once things like PCI compliance require 2-factor authentication, there are things about company-issued hardware (MAC addresses, installed certificates, etc) which work as one of the factors. Multiple passwords are NOT multi-factor for PCI. -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
We are getting that proposal on the 22nd from a reliable vendor. The price tag will kill that portion of it, we just did 3 million in cuts yesterday. 60+ people out the door at the end of the school year. You bring up a valid point in a backhanded way. The choices are write the check and do it correctly. Or have something that doesn't work too well. Frustrating though. Any reasonably clean/patched/well maintained machine connects and functions perfectly. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS I would recommend that you take the results of the testing, look at vendors that will help you with the security of such an approach, and then propose the full approach (with a suitable timeframe) for approval. If you're fortunate, they'll approve the project with the proper tools. If you're really fortunate, they'll kill it for now. Either way, make sure you've researched the tools that you will need beforehand. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBakerhttp://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market... On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgmailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Weird RDS thin client issue
All severs 2008 R2: Got (3) Hyper-V physical hosts. (3) RDS boxes as guests. Clients connect with Wyse/Dell thin clients. Had a user say they were having problems when doing a Save As from Word (Office 2007). It crashes Word. I was able to reproduce the problem. I'm going to open a case with MS since I can't find a fix for it yet.So in the meantime, I'm just taking that box out of the lineup. But here is the weird part, this only happens on a specific RDS box, and only when connecting from a thin client. If I connect from a PC with RDP to that box, I can't reproduce the problem. Fun stuff. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage/jpeg
RE: Windows Phone 8
We have a Nokia W8 phone setup in our system, works same as other W7 phones. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.orgmailto:dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. [cid:image001.jpg@01CE0B72.B2D2CDA0] From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows Phone 8 I want to try to migrate from my HTC HD2 to the new Samsung ATIV S As I am satisfied whit result of Exchange connection with HTC (SBS 2011) I don't want to worsen for getting othe r less important things TIA ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmininline: image001.jpg
RE: Windows Phone 8
O.K. Should be fine. (?) Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.comhttp://www.rolandschorr.com/ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows Phone 8 I want to try to migrate from my HTC HD2 to the new Samsung ATIV S As I am satisfied whit result of Exchange connection with HTC (SBS 2011) I don't want to worsen for getting othe r less important things TIA ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
*Frustrating though. Any reasonably clean/patched/well maintained machine connects and functions perfectly.* ** I wouldn't be too quick to mention that, as that will become your new mission... *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: We are getting that proposal on the 22nd from a reliable vendor. The price tag will kill that portion of it, we just did 3 million in cuts yesterday. 60+ people out the door at the end of the school year. You bring up a valid point in a backhanded way. The choices are write the check and do it correctly. Or have something that doesn’t work too well. ** ** Frustrating though. Any reasonably clean/patched/well maintained machine connects and functions perfectly. ** ** ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2013 11:30 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS ** ** I would recommend that you take the results of the testing, look at vendors that will help you with the security of such an approach, and then propose the full approach (with a suitable timeframe) for approval. ** ** If you're fortunate, they'll approve the project with the proper tools. If you're really fortunate, they'll kill it for now. Either way, make sure you've researched the tools that you will need beforehand. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* ** ** On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Zultus VOIP?
Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx250.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Zultys VOIP?
Matt, thanks for your input. If you're curious about the click to dial... Our ops team does tons of outbound calling. Numbers are stored in an online database. Users fat finger these into their phones. Time consuming; prone to errors. Want I want is to have our users click the number with their mouse to connect them to that number. Zultys's UC client has the ability to dial a number by selecting the text and hitting a hotkey, say F12. From any app. So, it's not really that fancy or unique imo. Simple, and I think all UC apps should do this by default. Some require the phone number to be prefix with the tel: hyperlink denotation, which is fine as well, as we maintain/design the database and can re-code it. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx25 0.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or
RE: Zultys VOIP? (oops, not spelled Zultus)
FortiVoice, huh? I'll do love my FortiGate and their support staff, (Although keeping a close eye on the other thread about them). I'll have to check them out some more. Their website is a little sparse with information... How long have they been in the voice arena? -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx25 0.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
RE: Zultys VOIP?
Click to dial is very common. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultys VOIP? Matt, thanks for your input. If you're curious about the click to dial... Our ops team does tons of outbound calling. Numbers are stored in an online database. Users fat finger these into their phones. Time consuming; prone to errors. Want I want is to have our users click the number with their mouse to connect them to that number. Zultys's UC client has the ability to dial a number by selecting the text and hitting a hotkey, say F12. From any app. So, it's not really that fancy or unique imo. Simple, and I think all UC apps should do this by default. Some require the phone number to be prefix with the tel: hyperlink denotation, which is fine as well, as we maintain/design the database and can re-code it. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx25 0.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. We're doing fine with it - we have an Aventail EX series box, and it checks for a suitable antivirus client on the connecting machine. We've seen some problems with getting the client installed on user machines, but have worked around that by giving them a download link to the client install package directly, on our ftp server. Other than that, if they can't connect, it's their problem, though a few people have brought their machines in for help. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
I definitely agree, but I was overruled on that... Kurt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS
The EX series of Aventail (Was Sonicall, now Dell) is indeed very nice. I like our a lot. Kurt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Candee can...@gmail.com wrote: We have just now started looking into this. We saw a demo of Aventail, and were quite impressed. We have a few more demos set up, but so far this one was the only outstanding one. On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Zultys VOIP?
I would sure hope so. The vendors I've looked at so far struggled at this. Or their sales folks didn't realize how/what it is. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultys VOIP? Click to dial is very common. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultys VOIP? Matt, thanks for your input. If you're curious about the click to dial... Our ops team does tons of outbound calling. Numbers are stored in an online database. Users fat finger these into their phones. Time consuming; prone to errors. Want I want is to have our users click the number with their mouse to connect them to that number. Zultys's UC client has the ability to dial a number by selecting the text and hitting a hotkey, say F12. From any app. So, it's not really that fancy or unique imo. Simple, and I think all UC apps should do this by default. Some require the phone number to be prefix with the tel: hyperlink denotation, which is fine as well, as we maintain/design the database and can re-code it. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx25 0.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
RE: Non-corp desktops and RDS
I was so happy the first time they told me about that policy, as well as no MAC support either. Although, I wouldn't be involved with any of that hardly at all, it still made me happy. : ) Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Non-corp desktops and RDS I definitely agree, but I was overruled on that... Kurt On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: Best thing to do, if possible and backed by everyone, is to give everyone laptops and write up a policy that non-corp owned devices are not supported. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 10:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Non-corp desktops and RDS How well is allowing non-corporate assets connect to a RDS session from home working for everyone. Using an SSL tunnel here. I am just starting initial testing with a few users and it is a nightmare. Wrong Java, toolbars and popup blockers and layers and layers of crapware are causing tons of problems. And these are the alleged 'tech savy' users. It is beginning to feel like a giant fail coming my way. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Zultys VOIP?
Some require the phone number to be prefix with the tel: hyperlink denotation, which is fine as well, as we maintain/design the database and can re-code it. Ah, well that's easy. That's a browser association of a hyperlink with a program. Much like you can associate irc:// with your favorite IRC client. I thought it was recognizing phone numbers on web pages (much like the iPhone does) and allowing you to click it to dial, no hyperlinking required. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:22:20 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultys VOIP? Matt, thanks for your input. If you're curious about the click to dial... Our ops team does tons of outbound calling. Numbers are stored in an online database. Users fat finger these into their phones. Time consuming; prone to errors. Want I want is to have our users click the number with their mouse to connect them to that number. Zultys's UC client has the ability to dial a number by selecting the text and hitting a hotkey, say F12. From any app. So, it's not really that fancy or unique imo. Simple, and I think all UC apps should do this by default. Some require the phone number to be prefix with the tel: hyperlink denotation, which is fine as well, as we maintain/design the database and can re-code it. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx25 0.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
RE: Zultys VOIP? (oops, not spelled Zultus)
It looks like Fortinet aquired TalkSwitch in 2011. http://www.channelweb.co.uk/crn-uk/news/2046476/fortinet-makes-voip-acquisition --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:32:13 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultys VOIP? (oops, not spelled Zultus) FortiVoice, huh? I'll do love my FortiGate and their support staff, (Although keeping a close eye on the other thread about them). I'll have to check them out some more. Their website is a little sparse with information... How long have they been in the voice arena? -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? I've never heard of them. And I have been trying to keep up with various VOIP phone systems of late... We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? That sounds expensive to me, but some of the features you mentioned are unique. (Especillaly the Click to Dial on web pages.) Also I don't know how much of that cost is the installation/training. I've been looking at FortiVoice as a much less expensive solution, recently. Of course, I've been using Shoretel for years, and still recommend them. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 08:53:41 -0800 Subject: RE: Zultus VOIP? What features are you most interested in? The wonderful feature of low costs and easy implementation :) Some others: *The ability to allow our users to one-click dial from our custom built web database. (Which this will do out of the box). Click on a number and dial. Simple as that. It's amazing how many vendors can't seem to nail this. *Remote handsets that will work over SSL (Some we've looked required a VPN connection on the user's home router - no thanks). *A great UC client. These guys nailed it. The interface is awesome, and binding your DID to any device is easy and intuitive for users. *The main driver here is to replace an ancient PBX. All the main features of a modern phone system will be a bonus for us, which I'm sure will drive up productivity - so we are excited for that as well. After looking at various solutions, these guys seem to meet all our requirements, and have a licensing model we like. (They don't try to tack on a licen$e for every feature. Everything is enabled out of the box). I really like the VAR we are working with currently, which I can't say about all the other solutions we've looked at. They also play well with other hardware vendors and don't have any proprietary requirements. It's also a true SIP system. We're looking at a rough price of $13K for this. 20 users. Includes phones, switch, 20 install/training hours, hardware, software, etc. Does that seem reasonable for 20 users? Sam From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Zultus VOIP? I haven't, but that's probably not saying much. :) What features are you most interested in? ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone using them? Anyone heard things about them? Any input appreciated. -Sam http://www.zultys.com/products/voip-business-phone-systems/zultys-mx25 0.php ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Lumina 822 phone
Apps for the most part are pretty low on my list. How is the battery life, any other things you don't like about it? I understand to lengthen the battery life wifi needs to be shutdown which is something I would have done anyway, I would have shut down the bluetooth as well, those devices hanging on my ear just bother me too much. Around here there are too many people that would connect to any wifi that was open or that they could get access to just so they can browse and I don't feel generous enough to let them use my data time. Jon From: b...@rolandschorr.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:06:19 + I have one. Haven’t really had any lockup problems – though lately I’ve had a couple of call issues that may or may not have been caused by my Bluetooth earpiece. Overall I like the phone – though it feels like we have to wait quite a while for app updates. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Lumina 822 phone Is anyone using this phone on the Verizon network? I am considering it and saw some negative reviews about it locking up on the Verizon site but looking at other review sites no one seems to mention it having that issue. Thank you! Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Lumina 822 phone
Battery life is very good, actually. Even in fairly solid use it goes all day without much trouble. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.comhttp://www.rolandschorr.com/ From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Apps for the most part are pretty low on my list. How is the battery life, any other things you don't like about it? I understand to lengthen the battery life wifi needs to be shutdown which is something I would have done anyway, I would have shut down the bluetooth as well, those devices hanging on my ear just bother me too much. Around here there are too many people that would connect to any wifi that was open or that they could get access to just so they can browse and I don't feel generous enough to let them use my data time. Jon From: b...@rolandschorr.commailto:b...@rolandschorr.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:06:19 + I have one. Haven't really had any lockup problems - though lately I've had a couple of call issues that may or may not have been caused by my Bluetooth earpiece. Overall I like the phone - though it feels like we have to wait quite a while for app updates. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.comhttp://www.rolandschorr.com/ From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Lumina 822 phone Is anyone using this phone on the Verizon network? I am considering it and saw some negative reviews about it locking up on the Verizon site but looking at other review sites no one seems to mention it having that issue. Thank you! Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Lumina 822 phone
Thanks a lot! Jon From: b...@rolandschorr.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:22:00 + Battery life is very good, actually. Even in fairly solid use it goes all day without much trouble. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Apps for the most part are pretty low on my list. How is the battery life, any other things you don't like about it? I understand to lengthen the battery life wifi needs to be shutdown which is something I would have done anyway, I would have shut down the bluetooth as well, those devices hanging on my ear just bother me too much. Around here there are too many people that would connect to any wifi that was open or that they could get access to just so they can browse and I don't feel generous enough to let them use my data time. Jon From: b...@rolandschorr.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:06:19 + I have one. Haven’t really had any lockup problems – though lately I’ve had a couple of call issues that may or may not have been caused by my Bluetooth earpiece. Overall I like the phone – though it feels like we have to wait quite a while for app updates. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Lumina 822 phone Is anyone using this phone on the Verizon network? I am considering it and saw some negative reviews about it locking up on the Verizon site but looking at other review sites no one seems to mention it having that issue. Thank you! Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
R: Windows Phone 8
Thanks all Sometimes it looks people buy smartphones (iPhones i.e.) for everything but phone and mail Guido Elia HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE Da: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Inviato: venerdì 15 febbraio 2013 18.11 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: (SCL: -1) RE: Windows Phone 8 O.K. Should be fine. (?) Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.comhttp://www.rolandschorr.com/ From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows Phone 8 I want to try to migrate from my HTC HD2 to the new Samsung ATIV S As I am satisfied whit result of Exchange connection with HTC (SBS 2011) I don't want to worsen for getting othe r less important things TIA ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
