Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Nigel Parker
Hi 
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen 
Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi 
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen 
Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Nigel Parker
Hi 
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of
turning it on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a
veriety of machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all 
The windows 95 machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run
manufacturing systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever to 
getting them upgraded.


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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi 
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of
turning it on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a
veriety of machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all 
The windows 95 machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run
manufacturing systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Orland, Kathleen
What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
to getting them upgraded.


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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning it
on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of
machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or
is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Nigel Parker
Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
once then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but
none seemed to work!
Will look at logmein 
And the group policy settings 

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense 
 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




-Original Message-
From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if
you want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a
lever to getting them upgraded.


Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
RELIABLY

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control
software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of
turning it on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a
veriety of machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread James Rankin
You will need to configure (off the top of my head)

Computer Config | Admin Templates | Windows Components | Remote Desktop
Services | Remote Desktop Session Host | Connections | Allow users to
connect remotely using Remote Desktop Services

You may also need to configure the firewall using Computer Config | Admin
Templates | Network | Network Connectuons | Windows Firewall | Domain
Profile | Windows Firewall: Allow inbound Remote Desktop exceptions

As for the Win95 and NT4 stuff, could you not virtualize them via a P2V and
then use the console connections in your hypervisor software rather than
any remote control software?

Cheers,



JR



On 27 February 2013 11:47, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.ukwrote:

 Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
 once then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but
 none seemed to work!
 Will look at logmein
 And the group policy settings

 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense


 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel:   01200 452329
 Fax:   01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




 -Original Message-
 From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software

 What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn?

 -Original Message-
 From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if
 you want.

 If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a
 lever to getting them upgraded.


 Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
 RELIABLY

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control
 software

 Hi
 I looked at using this
 But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of
 turning it on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a
 veriety of machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7

 I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
 machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
 systems,

 Thanks

 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel:   01200 452329
 Fax:   01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk





 -Original Message-
 From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 What's wrong with RDP?

 --Original Message--
 From: Nigel Parker
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Remote control software
 Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

 Hi
 We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
 on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
 the software out to desktops.

 We could use remote assistance however!
 We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
 meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
 what we have to while they are out.

 In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
 updates.

 question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
 when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel:   01200 452329
 Fax:   01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Orland, Kathleen
There is a workaround for VNC Lite from what I hear. Check YouTube. 

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected once
then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none seemed
to work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings 

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense 
 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




-Original Message-
From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
to getting them upgraded.


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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning it
on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of
machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or
is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Paul Gordon
Sorry...  I really can't help it... I have to...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year old
OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as secure
as a whore's drawers...???

Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't likely
to expire at any moment?

Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come across a
similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty dim
view of it...

No offence intended

Paul G.


-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected once
then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none seemed
to work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings 

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense 
 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




-Original Message-
From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
to getting them upgraded.


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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning it
on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of
machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or
is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan
I use VNC with a custom script that does a silent install before it executes, 
and uninstall when it's done. It's pretty clean.
You have the right ports open on Win7 right?



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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on 
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the 
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or is 
on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to while 
they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when 
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Orland, Kathleen
Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out there,
but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be upgraded
because the software packages won't run on anything newer and the vendor
does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero. 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

Sorry...  I really can't help it... I have to...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year old
OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as secure
as a whore's drawers...???

Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't likely
to expire at any moment?

Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come across a
similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty dim
view of it...

No offence intended

Paul G.


-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected once
then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none seemed
to work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings 

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense 
 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




-Original Message-
From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
to getting them upgraded.


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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning it
on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of
machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or
is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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Re: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
Couldn't you package them up with App-V, ThinApp, XenApp or the like? I know 
you're not supposed to use the likes of App-V to get round OS restrictions, but 
I've seen it done very successfully...

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-Original Message-
From: Orland, Kathleen korl...@rogers.com
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:49:36 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control 
software

Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out there,
but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be upgraded
because the software packages won't run on anything newer and the vendor
does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero. 

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

Sorry...  I really can't help it... I have to...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year old
OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as secure
as a whore's drawers...???

Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't likely
to expire at any moment?

Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come across a
similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty dim
view of it...

No offence intended

Paul G.


-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected once
then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none seemed
to work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings 

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense 
 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




-Original Message-
From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
to getting them upgraded.


Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning it
on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of
machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or
is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: Color me skeptical

2013-02-27 Thread Maglinger, Paul
We are the Borg.  You will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Color me skeptical

http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/22/4013406/i-used-google-glass-its-the-future-with-monthly-updates

On several levels, including:

o- Too many areas without network capability - where I live, anyway.

o- Voice interaction. Really? No thanks.

o- Privacy. Do I really want Google to know that much about me? They already 
know too much.

Don't get me wrong - this is amazing technology. But, I don't have to say yes 
to everything that comes along


Kurt

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Re: Color me skeptical

2013-02-27 Thread Christopher Bodnar
I'm really interested to see if this is the paradigm shift that Google 
thinks it's going to be. I think if they can really work out the issues, 
it will be. But I'm not convinced they can at this point. Specifically 
voice recognition issues. With this device, the voice recognition has to 
be pretty close to 100% 24x7, or it won't catch on. They way I see this 
working in real life, is that it's going to be tethered do your phone all 
the time. Meaning  you will still have your phone with you, so it won't 
replace that device. I see it as more of an accessory to your phone. But 
if you are constantly shifting back and forth between the 2 then it's 
going to be a hard sell. 



Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise 
Architecture and Engineering Services 
Tel 610-807-6459 
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
christopher_bod...@glic.com 




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From:   Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   02/26/2013 08:55 PM
Subject:Color me skeptical



http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/22/4013406/i-used-google-glass-its-the-future-with-monthly-updates


On several levels, including:

o- Too many areas without network capability - where I live, anyway.

o- Voice interaction. Really? No thanks.

o- Privacy. Do I really want Google to know that much about me? They
already know too much.

Don't get me wrong - this is amazing technology. But, I don't have to
say yes to everything that comes along


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RE: Badging systems

2013-02-27 Thread John C Owen
Here in New Hampshire we use a local (Mass.) company, One Source Security

They handle the badges, card readers, card swipe, integration with AD, video 
recording, etc.

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Badging systems

I'm in the market for a new badge system.  We are a food production company 
with several facilities.   Each facility currently has disparate systems for 
staff that allow them entry into parking lots, exterior doors (some with 
magnetic locks), some interior doors.  Criteria:

- swipe units must be environmentally hardy:  very hot or very cold for 
exterior units.  Some units would be inside freezing or near freezing cooling 
units.
- Active Directory integration would be a bonus, although not required.
- Bonus:  the ability to interface with external systems such as timekeeping, 
ADP payroll, etc
- Centralized management:  management of devices here in HQ and configuration 
may replicate/reside on a local controller.
- Local support on the East Coast and Central regions of USA critical.


We currently use the badges for photo ID as well as access.  Most systems seem 
to accommodate this nowadays.   At my last place I used Hirsch systems and they 
worked okay, but I had issues with remote controllers.  So I'm looking to at 
least learn what the rest of you use.

Tom


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RE: Color me skeptical

2013-02-27 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Voice recognition needs to be far superior to what we have on our phones 
currently.  And yep, it will have to fully integrate with your phone.  I see it 
as a monitor and voice system for your phone.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Color me skeptical

I'm really interested to see if this is the paradigm shift that Google thinks 
it's going to be. I think if they can really work out the issues, it will be. 
But I'm not convinced they can at this point. Specifically voice recognition 
issues. With this device, the voice recognition has to be pretty close to 100% 
24x7, or it won't catch on. They way I see this working in real life, is that 
it's going to be tethered do your phone all the time. Meaning  you will still 
have your phone with you, so it won't replace that device. I see it as more of 
an accessory to your phone. But if you are constantly shifting back and forth 
between the 2 then it's going to be a hard sell.

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Date:02/26/2013 08:55 PM
Subject:Color me skeptical




http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/22/4013406/i-used-google-glass-its-the-future-with-monthly-updates

On several levels, including:

o- Too many areas without network capability - where I live, anyway.

o- Voice interaction. Really? No thanks.

o- Privacy. Do I really want Google to know that much about me? They
already know too much.

Don't get me wrong - this is amazing technology. But, I don't have to
say yes to everything that comes along


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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread N Parr
I'm using UltraVNC 1.0.9.6.2 (version that was available at the time) for 
remote access to my win7 virtual desktops.  There are a few little things that 
annoy me but it works.  I combine that with Bginfo on the desktop for the user 
to tell me their computer name.  99% of my remote needs require mirroring the 
desktop to help the user through their issues.

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected once 
then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none seemed to 
work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings 

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense 
 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




-Original Message-
From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever to 
getting them upgraded.


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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning it on 
remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of machines 
from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95 
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on 
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the 
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or is 
on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to while 
they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when 
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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Fax:   01200 452201
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RE: Badging systems

2013-02-27 Thread Glen Johnson
Check out Windsx.
Or any system that uses proximity cards.
No physical contact between the reader and cards, so temp extremes should not 
be an issue.
I think their enterprise version will integrate with AD.
Not sure about external integration, but I'm guessing it is there.  Wasn't a 
concern for us.
Main company is in Texas, but our local installer is very knowledgeable.
I know several local schools and hospitals use this and they are both managing 
several sites from one central location.

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Badging systems

I'm in the market for a new badge system.  We are a food production company 
with several facilities.   Each facility currently has disparate systems for 
staff that allow them entry into parking lots, exterior doors (some with 
magnetic locks), some interior doors.  Criteria:

- swipe units must be environmentally hardy:  very hot or very cold for 
exterior units.  Some units would be inside freezing or near freezing cooling 
units.
- Active Directory integration would be a bonus, although not required.
- Bonus:  the ability to interface with external systems such as timekeeping, 
ADP payroll, etc
- Centralized management:  management of devices here in HQ and configuration 
may replicate/reside on a local controller.
- Local support on the East Coast and Central regions of USA critical.


We currently use the badges for photo ID as well as access.  Most systems seem 
to accommodate this nowadays.   At my last place I used Hirsch systems and they 
worked okay, but I had issues with remote controllers.  So I'm looking to at 
least learn what the rest of you use.

Tom


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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Nigel Parker
Hi 

Thanks 

 

Virtualisation NO 

 

They talk to the cutting machines over 2 serial ports using real mode
drivers 

The software supplier has no update for these except to replace the
whole package and cutting machines, this is very expensive!

 

Regards

 

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer

Ultraframe (UK) Ltd

Tel:   01200 452329

Fax:   01200 452201

Web:   www.ultraframe.com http://www.ultraframe.com 

Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk 

 

 

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 12:11
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

 

You will need to configure (off the top of my head)

Computer Config | Admin Templates | Windows Components | Remote Desktop
Services | Remote Desktop Session Host | Connections | Allow users to
connect remotely using Remote Desktop Services

You may also need to configure the firewall using Computer Config |
Admin Templates | Network | Network Connectuons | Windows Firewall |
Domain Profile | Windows Firewall: Allow inbound Remote Desktop
exceptions

As for the Win95 and NT4 stuff, could you not virtualize them via a P2V
and then use the console connections in your hypervisor software rather
than any remote control software?

Cheers,




JR

 

 

On 27 February 2013 11:47, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
wrote:

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
once then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but
none seemed to work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense



Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn?

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if
you want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a
lever to getting them upgraded.


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From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control
software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of
turning it on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a
veriety of machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems,

Thanks

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk





-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Nigel Parker
Hi 
Yep I agree however most manufacturing plants are in the same boat 
I didn't mention anything about the Dos 6 machines as I thought people
wouldn't know what dos 6 is
They are networked and pull down cutting list orders from the network

The cost to replace the windows 95 machines with a supported os (and we
have to replace all the cutting hardware) is 1 million uk pounds 
Then we have the dos machines and of course other machines running
things like NT4 

As I said for manufacturing environments this isn't unusual to still be
running this software, I am sure even Microsoft know things like this
happen in the real world 


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-Original Message-
From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 13:42
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Sorry...  I really can't help it... I have to...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year
old OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as
secure as a whore's drawers...???

Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't
likely to expire at any moment?

Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come
across a similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a
pretty dim view of it...

No offence intended

Paul G.


-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
once then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but
none seemed to work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings 

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense 
 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




-Original Message-
From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if
you want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a
lever to getting them upgraded.


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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control
software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of
turning it on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a
veriety of machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems, 

Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk



  

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
Would they support some form of application packaging? I've done a lot of work 
recently packaging apps similar to these to remove outdated platforms from 
customer infrastructure

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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:16:51 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi 

Thanks 

 

Virtualisation NO 

 

They talk to the cutting machines over 2 serial ports using real mode
drivers 

The software supplier has no update for these except to replace the
whole package and cutting machines, this is very expensive!

 

Regards

 

Nigel Parker

Systems Engineer

Ultraframe (UK) Ltd

Tel:   01200 452329

Fax:   01200 452201

Web:   www.ultraframe.com http://www.ultraframe.com 

Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk 

 

 

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 12:11
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

 

You will need to configure (off the top of my head)

Computer Config | Admin Templates | Windows Components | Remote Desktop
Services | Remote Desktop Session Host | Connections | Allow users to
connect remotely using Remote Desktop Services

You may also need to configure the firewall using Computer Config |
Admin Templates | Network | Network Connectuons | Windows Firewall |
Domain Profile | Windows Firewall: Allow inbound Remote Desktop
exceptions

As for the Win95 and NT4 stuff, could you not virtualize them via a P2V
and then use the console connections in your hypervisor software rather
than any remote control software?

Cheers,




JR

 

 

On 27 February 2013 11:47, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
wrote:

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
once then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but
none seemed to work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense



Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




-Original Message-

From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn?

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if
you want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a
lever to getting them upgraded.


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From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control
software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of
turning it on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a
veriety of machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems,

Thanks

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk





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From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: 

RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Nigel Parker
Hi 
Yep I checked the ports were open 
We have a similar script that uses psexec to install the software and remove it 
on exit (if required)

And you can connect ok to windows 7 machines? Hmmm we must be doing something 
wrong then 
Do you have any 64 bit machines that the software also works on 

I am begging to think I need to build a test lab and do some experimenting 
What version of Vnc could you please email me a link thanks 


Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk





-Original Message-
From: Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan [mailto:jderrenbac...@keitercpa.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 13:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

I use VNC with a custom script that does a silent install before it executes, 
and uninstall when it's done. It's pretty clean.
You have the right ports open on Win7 right?



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From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on 
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the 
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or is 
on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to while 
they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when 
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Joseph Schvarcz
We use TightVnc instead of VNC on windows 7, works great..

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or
is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome  

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Nigel Parker
nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk wrote:
snip
 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense

One bit of malware will put paid to that argument...

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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Nigel Parker
Hi 

Not sure what you mean by this 

The only thing I know is that, the drivers are dos or real mode drivers
and must have exclusive access to the serial ports (hence windows95) 

 

I tried virtualising with vmware but the virtual machine doesn't have
exclusive unrestricted access to the serial ports and fails 

Heck we had someone come in guaranteeing it  was possible and sulked
away with a FAILED sticker on his back 

 

 

Nigel Parker

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Fax:   01200 452201

Web:   www.ultraframe.com http://www.ultraframe.com 

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mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk 

 

 

 

 

From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 15:23
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

 

Would they support some form of application packaging? I've done a lot
of work recently packaging apps similar to these to remove outdated
platforms from customer infrastructure

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From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk 

Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:16:51 -

To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Subject: RE: Remote control software

 

Hi 

Thanks 

 

Virtualisation NO 

 

They talk to the cutting machines over 2 serial ports using real mode
drivers 

The software supplier has no update for these except to replace the
whole package and cutting machines, this is very expensive!

 

Regards

 

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Fax:   01200 452201

Web:   www.ultraframe.com

Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk

 

 

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 12:11
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

 

You will need to configure (off the top of my head)

Computer Config | Admin Templates | Windows Components | Remote Desktop
Services | Remote Desktop Session Host | Connections | Allow users to
connect remotely using Remote Desktop Services

You may also need to configure the firewall using Computer Config |
Admin Templates | Network | Network Connectuons | Windows Firewall |
Domain Profile | Windows Firewall: Allow inbound Remote Desktop
exceptions

As for the Win95 and NT4 stuff, could you not virtualize them via a P2V
and then use the console connections in your hypervisor software rather
than any remote control software?

Cheers,



JR

 

 

On 27 February 2013 11:47, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
wrote:

Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
once then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but
none seemed to work!
Will look at logmein
And the group policy settings

Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense



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Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
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From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Remote control software

What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn?

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if
you want.

If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a
lever to getting them upgraded.


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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control
software

Hi
I looked at using this
But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of
turning it on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a
veriety of machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7

I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
systems,

Thanks

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk





-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

What's wrong with RDP?

--Original Message--
From: Nigel Parker
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software

Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Bill Humphries
tightvnc has always worked better for me on more systems.  I sometimes use 
it to connect to Macs also since Apple Remote Desktop's bones are VNC.


-Original Message- 
From: Joseph Schvarcz

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

We use TightVnc instead of VNC on windows 7, works great..

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or
is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get when
connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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Re: This can't be right (2008R2 - 2012)

2013-02-27 Thread Justin Thomas
You had me excited, but I have Microsoft Hyper-V  Server 2008R2 and you
cannot upgrade:

From the installation screen: Hyper-V Server (Server Core) cannot be
upgraded to Hyper-v Server 2012. You can choose to install a new copy of
Hyper-V Server 2012 instead, but this is different from an upgrade...

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I upgraded my personal lab server from 2008 R2 to Server 2012 last
 night. The server is mainly a Hyper-V and not much else.

 ** **

 **1.   **Inserted 2012 CD

 **2.   **Chose “upgrade”

 **3.   **Entered 2012 Key

 **4.   **Server reboots a couple of times then gives me the logon
 screen

 ** **

 Everything works as before, just now with 2012 OS, even LogMeIn came over
 with no issue.

 ** **

 Since when do server OS upgrades actually work as advertised? J Once the
 new server was up I flipped my VM’s to VHDX. Way too easy.

 *David Lum*
 Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Nigel Parker
Hi 
Thanks just downloading Tight Vnc now 

Thanks to everyone who helped 
Apart from the guy who suggested he would bring us down with a Malware
attack 

Regards
Nigel 



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From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 15:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

tightvnc has always worked better for me on more systems.  I sometimes
use it to connect to Macs also since Apple Remote Desktop's bones are
VNC.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Schvarcz
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

We use TightVnc instead of VNC on windows 7, works great..

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
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Fax:   01200 452201
Web:   www.ultraframe.com
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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan
Yeah, it works with Win7 x64 targets.
To clarify, I'm using 'UltraVNC' version 1.0.8.2.

This is the core of my script:

::Copy winvnc to the target computer
robocopy /e x \\%hostname%\c$
::Execute winvnc via psexec
psexec \\%hostname% -s -i -d c:\winvnc.exe
::wait
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 3 nul
::open the vnc viewer on your laptop to then connect to the target IP
C:\vncviewer.exe
 

Here's my config ini file. I can't remember what all I changed.

[Permissions]
[admin]
FileTransferEnabled=0
FTUserImpersonation=1
BlankMonitorEnabled=1
BlankInputsOnly=0
CaptureAlphaBlending=0
BlackAlphaBlending=0
DefaultScale=1
UseDSMPlugin=0
DSMPlugin=
primary=1
secondary=0
SocketConnect=1
HTTPConnect=1
XDMCPConnect=0
AutoPortSelect=1
InputsEnabled=1
LocalInputsDisabled=0
IdleTimeout=0
EnableJapInput=0
QuerySetting=2
QueryTimeout=10
QueryAccept=0
LockSetting=0
RemoveWallpaper=0
RemoveAero=0
DebugMode=0
Avilog=0
path=C:\
DebugLevel=8
AllowLoopback=0
LoopbackOnly=0
AllowShutdown=1
AllowProperties=1
AllowEditClients=1
FileTransferTimeout=30
KeepAliveInterval=5
DisableTrayIcon=1
MSLogonRequired=0
NewMSLogon=0
ConnectPriority=0
UseRegistry=0
kickrdp=0
service_commandline=
AuthRequired=1
AuthHosts=
PortNumber=0
HTTPPortNumber=0
QueryIfNoLogon=0
secundary=0
[ultravnc]
passwd=xxx
passwd2=
[poll]
TurboMode=0
PollUnderCursor=1
PollForeground=0
PollFullScreen=0
OnlyPollConsole=0
OnlyPollOnEvent=0
EnableDriver=0
EnableHook=0
EnableVirtual=0
SingleWindow=0
SingleWindowName=






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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Hi
Yep I checked the ports were open
We have a similar script that uses psexec to install the software and remove it 
on exit (if required)

And you can connect ok to windows 7 machines? Hmmm we must be doing something 
wrong then Do you have any 64 bit machines that the software also works on 

I am begging to think I need to build a test lab and do some experimenting What 
version of Vnc could you please email me a link thanks 


Thanks 

Nigel Parker
Systems Engineer
Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
Tel:   01200 452329
Fax:   01200 452201
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From: Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan [mailto:jderrenbac...@keitercpa.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 13:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

I use VNC with a custom script that does a silent install before it executes, 
and uninstall when it's done. It's pretty clean.
You have the right ports open on Win7 right?



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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan
Outlook messed up that message. Here's the script sample:

::Copy winvnc to the target computer

robocopy /e x \\%hostname%\c$

::Execute winvnc via psexec

psexec \\%hostname% -s -i -d c:\winvnc.exe 

::wait ping 127.0.0.1 -n 3 nul

 ::open the vnc viewer on your laptop to then connect to the target IP 

C:\vncviewer.exe






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From: Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Yeah, it works with Win7 x64 targets.
To clarify, I'm using 'UltraVNC' version 1.0.8.2.

This is the core of my script:

::Copy winvnc to the target computer
robocopy /e x \\%hostname%\c$
::Execute winvnc via psexec
psexec \\%hostname% -s -i -d c:\winvnc.exe ::wait ping 127.0.0.1 -n 3 nul 
::open the vnc viewer on your laptop to then connect to the target IP 
C:\vncviewer.exe
 

Here's my config ini file. I can't remember what all I changed.

[Permissions]
[admin]
FileTransferEnabled=0
FTUserImpersonation=1
BlankMonitorEnabled=1
BlankInputsOnly=0
CaptureAlphaBlending=0
BlackAlphaBlending=0
DefaultScale=1
UseDSMPlugin=0
DSMPlugin=
primary=1
secondary=0
SocketConnect=1
HTTPConnect=1
XDMCPConnect=0
AutoPortSelect=1
InputsEnabled=1
LocalInputsDisabled=0
IdleTimeout=0
EnableJapInput=0
QuerySetting=2
QueryTimeout=10
QueryAccept=0
LockSetting=0
RemoveWallpaper=0
RemoveAero=0
DebugMode=0
Avilog=0
path=C:\
DebugLevel=8
AllowLoopback=0
LoopbackOnly=0
AllowShutdown=1
AllowProperties=1
AllowEditClients=1
FileTransferTimeout=30
KeepAliveInterval=5
DisableTrayIcon=1
MSLogonRequired=0
NewMSLogon=0
ConnectPriority=0
UseRegistry=0
kickrdp=0
service_commandline=
AuthRequired=1
AuthHosts=
PortNumber=0
HTTPPortNumber=0
QueryIfNoLogon=0
secundary=0
[ultravnc]
passwd=xxx
passwd2=
[poll]
TurboMode=0
PollUnderCursor=1
PollForeground=0
PollFullScreen=0
OnlyPollConsole=0
OnlyPollOnEvent=0
EnableDriver=0
EnableHook=0
EnableVirtual=0
SingleWindow=0
SingleWindowName=






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-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

Hi
Yep I checked the ports were open
We have a similar script that uses psexec to install the software and remove it 
on exit (if required)

And you can connect ok to windows 7 machines? Hmmm we must be doing something 
wrong then Do you have any 64 bit machines that the software also works on 

I am begging to think I need to build a test lab and do some experimenting What 
version of Vnc could you please email me a link thanks 

Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
I don't think he suggested that! Merely that the possibility of malware 
infection was highly elevated

If you want anyone to take a crack at advising on packaging possibilities, I 
could easily suggest a few options, contact me offline if you're interested

Cheers,


JR

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From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:03:35 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

Hi 
Thanks just downloading Tight Vnc now 

Thanks to everyone who helped 
Apart from the guy who suggested he would bring us down with a Malware
attack 

Regards
Nigel 



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From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: 27 February 2013 15:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

tightvnc has always worked better for me on more systems.  I sometimes
use it to connect to Macs also since Apple Remote Desktop's bones are
VNC.

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Schvarcz
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote control software

We use TightVnc instead of VNC on windows 7, works great..

-Original Message-
From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Remote control software

Hi
We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
the software out to desktops.

We could use remote assistance however!
We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
what we have to while they are out.

In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
updates.

question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

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RE: This can't be right (2008R2 - 2012)

2013-02-27 Thread Glen Johnson
Still pretty easy.
Just install 2012, install updates, add hyper-v role, configure networking as 
before, import vms and you are done.
Don't have to export vms.
This is assuming vms aren't on same drive as OS.
We had 2008r2 core, and hated it.   Seemed the remote hyper-v console was 
always losing connection to the host.
08r2 full install and 2012 has never had that problem.
Then if you want to go back to core, turn off gui in 2012.
Pretty slick.

From: Justin Thomas [mailto:jat...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: This can't be right (2008R2 - 2012)

You had me excited, but I have Microsoft Hyper-V  Server 2008R2 and you cannot 
upgrade:

From the installation screen: Hyper-V Server (Server Core) cannot be upgraded 
to Hyper-v Server 2012. You can choose to install a new copy of Hyper-V Server 
2012 instead, but this is different from an upgrade...
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:38 AM, David Lum 
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote:
I upgraded my personal lab server from 2008 R2 to Server 2012 last night. The 
server is mainly a Hyper-V and not much else.


1.   Inserted 2012 CD

2.   Chose upgrade

3.   Entered 2012 Key

4.   Server reboots a couple of times then gives me the logon screen

Everything works as before, just now with 2012 OS, even LogMeIn came over with 
no issue.

Since when do server OS upgrades actually work as advertised? :) Once the new 
server was up I flipped my VM's to VHDX. Way too easy.
David Lum
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For your virtualization reading library recommended book

2013-02-27 Thread Ziots, Edward
Virtualization Security
By: Dave Shackleford
Sybex Publishing
ISBN:978-1-118-28812-2

Covers ESXi, XenServer and HyperV.

EZ

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Security Engineer
Lifespan Organization
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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
Uh - I wasn't suggesting that I (or you) would or should bring your
environement down with malware.

However, it is indubitably true if malware gets into your network,
given the out of date OSes and applications being run, that you could
easily have a disaster on your hands where so much damage was
inflicted that rectifying the situation could easily equal or exceed
the cost of getting all of your kit up to date, if not outright put
the company out of business.

And just one person with a USB stick could get it done, or, depending
on the architecture of the network, possibly an errant email or web
browsing session. The latter scenario depends on the user network
connected to the manufacturing network, which is all too common.

*That* was the point of my comment.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Nigel Parker
nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk wrote:
 Hi
 Thanks just downloading Tight Vnc now

 Thanks to everyone who helped
 Apart from the guy who suggested he would bring us down with a Malware
 attack

 Regards
 Nigel



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 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 15:47
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 tightvnc has always worked better for me on more systems.  I sometimes
 use it to connect to Macs also since Apple Remote Desktop's bones are
 VNC.

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Schvarcz
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software

 We use TightVnc instead of VNC on windows 7, works great..

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Remote control software

 Hi
 We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
 on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
 the software out to desktops.

 We could use remote assistance however!
 We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
 meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
 what we have to while they are out.

 In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time for
 updates.

 question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I get
 when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

 Nigel Parker
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Re: Ping by name tool

2013-02-27 Thread Richard Stovall
Here's a function from a posh script I run for a completely different
purpose that pings all the machines listed in a source text file.  Perhaps
you could add the other things you need and do it all in powershell.



On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:24 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I’m looking for a ping tool that will ping a text file list of hostnames
 and return the reply, IP address and the NetBIOS name. Here’s what I
 currently have to do:

 ** **

 Get list of machine names from AD, McAfee, or other systems. Ping the name
 

 With the returned IP, do an NBTSTAT –A to check the NetBIOS name to see if
 it matches the pinged host name

 ** **

 I have to do this because frequently our VPN’d systems don’t have a
 correct DNS entry, so some management software gets tripped up.

 ** **

 I could do a search for free ping tools, but figured a query here might
 save me time if someone has a tool they do that already meets this
 requirement. Advanced IP scanner comes close, but only accepts IP’s and not
 host names as what to ping.

 ** **

 Ideally the output would be in a CSV format. I’m guessing PowerShell can
 do this too?

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Re: Ping by name tool

2013-02-27 Thread Richard Stovall
And now for the function...

function PingServers
{
$readfile = get-content $SourceDirectory\serverlist.txt
foreach($server in $readfile)
{

$Alive = get-wmiobject win32_pingstatus -Filter Address='$server' |
Select-Object statuscode
if($Alive.statuscode -eq 0)
{ $Server}
else
{ }
}
}


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's a function from a posh script I run for a completely different
 purpose that pings all the machines listed in a source text file.  Perhaps
 you could add the other things you need and do it all in powershell.



 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:24 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I’m looking for a ping tool that will ping a text file list of
 hostnames and return the reply, IP address and the NetBIOS name. Here’s
 what I currently have to do:

 ** **

 Get list of machine names from AD, McAfee, or other systems. Ping the name
 

 With the returned IP, do an NBTSTAT –A to check the NetBIOS name to see
 if it matches the pinged host name

 ** **

 I have to do this because frequently our VPN’d systems don’t have a
 correct DNS entry, so some management software gets tripped up.

 ** **

 I could do a search for free ping tools, but figured a query here might
 save me time if someone has a tool they do that already meets this
 requirement. Advanced IP scanner comes close, but only accepts IP’s and not
 host names as what to ping.

 ** **

 Ideally the output would be in a CSV format. I’m guessing PowerShell can
 do this too?

 *David Lum*
 Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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Re: Ping by name tool

2013-02-27 Thread Steven Peck
The BSonPosh module has a ton of stuff similar to this you could use as a
starting point

http://bsonposh.codeplex.com/

Since it's a script module you can open them up and see how they work as
well.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I’m looking for a ping tool that will ping a text file list of hostnames
 and return the reply, IP address and the NetBIOS name. Here’s what I
 currently have to do:

 ** **

 Get list of machine names from AD, McAfee, or other systems. Ping the name
 

 With the returned IP, do an NBTSTAT –A to check the NetBIOS name to see if
 it matches the pinged host name

 ** **

 I have to do this because frequently our VPN’d systems don’t have a
 correct DNS entry, so some management software gets tripped up.

 ** **

 I could do a search for free ping tools, but figured a query here might
 save me time if someone has a tool they do that already meets this
 requirement. Advanced IP scanner comes close, but only accepts IP’s and not
 host names as what to ping.

 ** **

 Ideally the output would be in a CSV format. I’m guessing PowerShell can
 do this too?

 *David Lum*
 Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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Re: Ping by name tool

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
You could do that easily with ping itself and the FOR command

Give me some time and I might be able to dig out an example, if no-one else 
chimes in

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Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Ping by name tool

I'm looking for a ping tool that will ping a text file list of hostnames and 
return the reply, IP address and the NetBIOS name. Here's what I currently have 
to do:

Get list of machine names from AD, McAfee, or other systems. Ping the name
With the returned IP, do an NBTSTAT -A to check the NetBIOS name to see if it 
matches the pinged host name

I have to do this because frequently our VPN'd systems don't have a correct DNS 
entry, so some management software gets tripped up.

I could do a search for free ping tools, but figured a query here might save me 
time if someone has a tool they do that already meets this requirement. 
Advanced IP scanner comes close, but only accepts IP's and not host names as 
what to ping.

Ideally the output would be in a CSV format. I'm guessing PowerShell can do 
this too?
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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Re: Powershell witth Quest - listing group memberships of users

2013-02-27 Thread Michael Leone
I ended up doing this:

$AllUsers = Get-QADUser -SizeLimit 0 | Select
givenName,LastName,DisplayName,description,mail,ParentContainer,SAMAccountName,homeDirectory,AccountIsDisabled,MemberOf
| sort AccountIsDisabled,LastName,FirstName

ForEach ($User in $AllUsers)
{

$Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol) = $User.displayName
$CurrentCol++

$ListOfGroups = Get-QADMemberOf $User.sAMAccountName
$UsersGroups = 

ForEach ($GroupName in $ListOfGroups)
{
  $UsersGroups += | + $GroupName.Name + |, 
}

$Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol) = $UsersGroups
$Sheet.columns.item($CurrentCol).columnWidth = 52
$Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol).WrapText = $True

}

So I nested a couple loops, and I broke out each group, enclosed it in
| - which I found makes it more readable - and stored it in an Excel
cell, which I widen and wrap, for readability.

Basically this gives me a spreadsheet of all users, their home
folders, and group memberships. I keep it as a sort of snapshot of AD,
so that in 5 years, when I get a request to restore the home folder of
some user that doesn't work here anymore, and who has been deleted out
of AD, I have a way to find out where that home folder was, and I can
query the backup system for that location and time frame. (and yes, I
have had that happen, which is why I wrote the script).

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:
 .memberOF outputs an array and arrays don't play well with other types of
 info with just a straight select-object

 I used to use Get-QadUser JDoe | Get-QADMemberOf for this type of stuff

 Haven't actually had to solve this problem in a while now though.



 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am unsure what I am doing wrong. I want a list of all my user
  accounts, and I want the contents of the MemberOf property, among
  other things.
 
  Get-QADuser -SizeLimit 0 | Select
 
  givenName,LastName,DisplayName,mail,ParentContainer,SAMAccountName,homeDirectory,AccountIsDisabled,MemberOf,NestedMemberOf,AllMemberOf
 
  I sort this, and export to CSV. When I import the CSV into Excel, the
  MemberOf, NestedMemberOf and AllMemberOf are showing as
  System.String[].
 
  What am I doing wrong? I want that MemberOf to actually list what
  groups the user is a member of.

 So here is where I am. I am trying to output into an Excel spreadsheet:

 $AllUsers = Get-QADUser -SizeLimit 0 LeoneM | Select

 givenName,LastName,DisplayName,description,mail,ParentContainer,SAMAccountName,homeDirectory,AccountIsDisabled,MemberOf,NestedMemberOf,AllMemberOf
 | sort AccountIsDisabled,LastName,FirstName

 ForEach ($User in $AllUsers)
 {

 $Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol) = $User.displayName
 $CurrentCol++

 $ListOfGroups = Get-QADMemberOf $User.sAMAccountName
 $Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol) = $ListOfGroups

 Write-Host $User.displayName $ListOfGroups

 $CurrentRow++
 $CurrentCol = 1
 }

 And my $ListOfGroups writes out on my screen, but does NOT get written
 into the spreadsheet.

 What's that about?

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Re: Ping by name tool

2013-02-27 Thread Steven Peck
oh hey
http://www.myitforum.com/forums/m172057-print.aspx
4th reply.  Looks to be PowerShell v1 stuff but seems to have what you
asked about.

$Computer = remotecomputer.domain.com

if (($Ping = Get-WmiObject -Class Win32_PingStatus -Filter
Address='$Computer').StatusCode -eq 0) {
nbtstat -A $Ping.ProtocolAddress
} else { no response to ping }


add a $servers = get-content list.txt and then put the rest in a for loop.


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 The BSonPosh module has a ton of stuff similar to this you could use as a
 starting point

 http://bsonposh.codeplex.com/

 Since it's a script module you can open them up and see how they work as
 well.

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I’m looking for a ping tool that will ping a text file list of
 hostnames and return the reply, IP address and the NetBIOS name. Here’s
 what I currently have to do:

 ** **

 Get list of machine names from AD, McAfee, or other systems. Ping the name
 

 With the returned IP, do an NBTSTAT –A to check the NetBIOS name to see
 if it matches the pinged host name

 ** **

 I have to do this because frequently our VPN’d systems don’t have a
 correct DNS entry, so some management software gets tripped up.

 ** **

 I could do a search for free ping tools, but figured a query here might
 save me time if someone has a tool they do that already meets this
 requirement. Advanced IP scanner comes close, but only accepts IP’s and not
 host names as what to ping.

 ** **

 Ideally the output would be in a CSV format. I’m guessing PowerShell can
 do this too?

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Re: Ping by name tool

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
For /f %%a in (hostnames.txt) do set host=%%a call :DOSTUFF

Might be a starting point as well, if you're batch-comfortable


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From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:49:34 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Ping by name tool

oh hey
http://www.myitforum.com/forums/m172057-print.aspx
4th reply.  Looks to be PowerShell v1 stuff but seems to have what you
asked about.

$Computer = remotecomputer.domain.com

if (($Ping = Get-WmiObject -Class Win32_PingStatus -Filter
Address='$Computer').StatusCode -eq 0) {
nbtstat -A $Ping.ProtocolAddress
} else { no response to ping }


add a $servers = get-content list.txt and then put the rest in a for loop.


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:

 The BSonPosh module has a ton of stuff similar to this you could use as a
 starting point

 http://bsonposh.codeplex.com/

 Since it's a script module you can open them up and see how they work as
 well.

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I’m looking for a ping tool that will ping a text file list of
 hostnames and return the reply, IP address and the NetBIOS name. Here’s
 what I currently have to do:

 ** **

 Get list of machine names from AD, McAfee, or other systems. Ping the name
 

 With the returned IP, do an NBTSTAT –A to check the NetBIOS name to see
 if it matches the pinged host name

 ** **

 I have to do this because frequently our VPN’d systems don’t have a
 correct DNS entry, so some management software gets tripped up.

 ** **

 I could do a search for free ping tools, but figured a query here might
 save me time if someone has a tool they do that already meets this
 requirement. Advanced IP scanner comes close, but only accepts IP’s and not
 host names as what to ping.

 ** **

 Ideally the output would be in a CSV format. I’m guessing PowerShell can
 do this too?

 *David Lum*
 Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

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Re: Color me skeptical

2013-02-27 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Christopher Bodnar
christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote:
 I'm really interested to see if this is the paradigm shift that Google
 thinks it's going to be. I think if they can really work out the issues, it
 will be. But I'm not convinced they can at this point.

  Pervasive/wearable computing is almost guaranteed to take over at
some point.  The real question is, as you say, can Google do it with
what they have *today*?  I suppose someone's got to take the first
step, though.

  If they were selling them for $50, I'd certainly give it a shot.
I'm not going to fork over a kilobuck for a first-generation product,
though.

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Re: Badging systems

2013-02-27 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote:
 I'm in the market for a new badge system.

  Don't buy anything from Honeywell/Northern Computing (NetAXS,
WIN-PAK, etc.).  It's crap and their support stinks.  (No prizes for
guessing how I know this.)

 - swipe units must be environmentally hardy:  very hot or very cold for
 exterior units.  Some units would be inside freezing or near freezing
 cooling units.

  As Glen Johnson says, contactless/proximity cards are the way to go.

  A lot of systems are built around dumb cards operating at 125 kHz,
and the Wiegand data format.  The Wiegand format provides 24 bits, of
which 8 bits are a fixed facility code.  So it's basically a 16-bit
card number.  There's no authentication, and anyone can order the
cards.  It's largely a security-by-obscurity technology[1].  Depending
on your needs, this may actually be perfectly adequate, as most
conventional locks are scary easy to pick, too.  But if you want
something that will resist determined, equipped attack, look for
contactless smart cards[2].

-- Ben

[1] If the attacker can't borrow or read a legit card, it's somewhat
safer, as it takes a while to go through even 65536 card numbers, and
ordering that many cards would be cost prohibitive.  But if attackers
never did bad things we wouldn't need locks.

[2] Much more expensive, though.

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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense

 One bit of malware will put paid to that argument...

  Actually, I bet most malware today wouldn't know what to do with Windows 95.

  (For real security, they should switch to Banyan Vines and CP/M.)

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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense

 One bit of malware will put paid to that argument...

   Actually, I bet most malware today wouldn't know what to do with Windows 95.

   (For real security, they should switch to Banyan Vines and CP/M.)

 -- Ben

That's not a bet I'd want to make with my paycheck...

Kurt

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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
I bet there's a few copies of Melissa and I Love You still floating around the 
interwebs



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ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 19:29

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense

 One bit of malware will put paid to that argument...

  Actually, I bet most malware today wouldn't know what to do with Windows 95.

  (For real security, they should switch to Banyan Vines and CP/M.)

-- Ben

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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Guyer, Don
probably spread out over 25 floppies...

Regards,

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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

I bet there's a few copies of Melissa and I Love You still floating around the 
interwebs



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To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software
Sent: 27 Feb 2013 19:29

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense

 One bit of malware will put paid to that argument...

  Actually, I bet most malware today wouldn't know what to do with Windows 95.

  (For real security, they should switch to Banyan Vines and CP/M.)

-- Ben

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RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Mayo, Bill
The OP indicated quite a high price tag.  It would be one thing if you could 
say, If we upgraded this to Windows 7 then we could not be attacked by 
malware, but that isn't the case.  While I generally agree with you, $1 
million is not a small amount for something that doesn't guarantee you anything.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Uh - I wasn't suggesting that I (or you) would or should bring your 
environement down with malware.

However, it is indubitably true if malware gets into your network, given the 
out of date OSes and applications being run, that you could easily have a 
disaster on your hands where so much damage was inflicted that rectifying the 
situation could easily equal or exceed the cost of getting all of your kit up 
to date, if not outright put the company out of business.

And just one person with a USB stick could get it done, or, depending on the 
architecture of the network, possibly an errant email or web browsing session. 
The latter scenario depends on the user network connected to the manufacturing 
network, which is all too common.

*That* was the point of my comment.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk 
wrote:
 Hi
 Thanks just downloading Tight Vnc now

 Thanks to everyone who helped
 Apart from the guy who suggested he would bring us down with a Malware 
 attack

 Regards
 Nigel



 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 15:47
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 tightvnc has always worked better for me on more systems.  I sometimes 
 use it to connect to Macs also since Apple Remote Desktop's bones are 
 VNC.

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Schvarcz
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software

 We use TightVnc instead of VNC on windows 7, works great..

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Remote control software

 Hi
 We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that 
 on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll 
 the software out to desktops.

 We could use remote assistance however!
 We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a 
 meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do 
 what we have to while they are out.

 In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time 
 for updates.

 question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I 
 get when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
   Actually, I bet most malware today wouldn't know what to do with Windows 
 95.

 That's not a bet I'd want to make with my paycheck...

  I have no problem it.  I'll call my bookie and make the bet with
your paycheck.  ;-)

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RE: Powershell witth Quest - listing group memberships of users

2013-02-27 Thread Guyer, Don
We do a dump of AD to LDIF every night and use that to search for things like 
you mentioned. We use it more for querying mailbox locations, though, than 
anything else.

Regards,

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-Original Message-
From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Powershell witth Quest - listing group memberships of users

I ended up doing this:

$AllUsers = Get-QADUser -SizeLimit 0 | Select 
givenName,LastName,DisplayName,description,mail,ParentContainer,SAMAccountName,homeDirectory,AccountIsDisabled,MemberOf
| sort AccountIsDisabled,LastName,FirstName

ForEach ($User in $AllUsers)
{

$Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol) = $User.displayName $CurrentCol++

$ListOfGroups = Get-QADMemberOf $User.sAMAccountName $UsersGroups = 

ForEach ($GroupName in $ListOfGroups)
{
  $UsersGroups += | + $GroupName.Name + |, 
}

$Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol) = $UsersGroups 
$Sheet.columns.item($CurrentCol).columnWidth = 52 $Cells.Item($CurrentRow, 
$CurrentCol).WrapText = $True

}

So I nested a couple loops, and I broke out each group, enclosed it in | - 
which I found makes it more readable - and stored it in an Excel cell, which I 
widen and wrap, for readability.

Basically this gives me a spreadsheet of all users, their home folders, and 
group memberships. I keep it as a sort of snapshot of AD, so that in 5 years, 
when I get a request to restore the home folder of some user that doesn't work 
here anymore, and who has been deleted out of AD, I have a way to find out 
where that home folder was, and I can query the backup system for that location 
and time frame. (and yes, I have had that happen, which is why I wrote the 
script).

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote:
 .memberOF outputs an array and arrays don't play well with other types 
 of info with just a straight select-object

 I used to use Get-QadUser JDoe | Get-QADMemberOf for this type of 
 stuff

 Haven't actually had to solve this problem in a while now though.



 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I am unsure what I am doing wrong. I want a list of all my user 
  accounts, and I want the contents of the MemberOf property, among 
  other things.
 
  Get-QADuser -SizeLimit 0 | Select
 
  givenName,LastName,DisplayName,mail,ParentContainer,SAMAccountName,
  homeDirectory,AccountIsDisabled,MemberOf,NestedMemberOf,AllMemberOf
 
  I sort this, and export to CSV. When I import the CSV into Excel, 
  the MemberOf, NestedMemberOf and AllMemberOf are showing as 
  System.String[].
 
  What am I doing wrong? I want that MemberOf to actually list what 
  groups the user is a member of.

 So here is where I am. I am trying to output into an Excel spreadsheet:

 $AllUsers = Get-QADUser -SizeLimit 0 LeoneM | Select

 givenName,LastName,DisplayName,description,mail,ParentContainer,SAMAc
 countName,homeDirectory,AccountIsDisabled,MemberOf,NestedMemberOf,All
 MemberOf
 | sort AccountIsDisabled,LastName,FirstName

 ForEach ($User in $AllUsers)
 {

 $Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol) = $User.displayName 
 $CurrentCol++

 $ListOfGroups = Get-QADMemberOf $User.sAMAccountName 
 $Cells.Item($CurrentRow, $CurrentCol) = $ListOfGroups

 Write-Host $User.displayName $ListOfGroups

 $CurrentRow++
 $CurrentCol = 1
 }

 And my $ListOfGroups writes out on my screen, but does NOT get 
 written into the spreadsheet.

 What's that about?

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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread kz20fl
It will get you some support though (even though it is very high). I'd be 
curious to know if the OS blows on the NT4 systems, would MS give any help? 
Probably for a high price as well


Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

-Original Message-
From: Mayo, Bill bill.m...@pittcountync.gov
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:45:14 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software

The OP indicated quite a high price tag.  It would be one thing if you could 
say, If we upgraded this to Windows 7 then we could not be attacked by 
malware, but that isn't the case.  While I generally agree with you, $1 
million is not a small amount for something that doesn't guarantee you anything.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote control software

Uh - I wasn't suggesting that I (or you) would or should bring your 
environement down with malware.

However, it is indubitably true if malware gets into your network, given the 
out of date OSes and applications being run, that you could easily have a 
disaster on your hands where so much damage was inflicted that rectifying the 
situation could easily equal or exceed the cost of getting all of your kit up 
to date, if not outright put the company out of business.

And just one person with a USB stick could get it done, or, depending on the 
architecture of the network, possibly an errant email or web browsing session. 
The latter scenario depends on the user network connected to the manufacturing 
network, which is all too common.

*That* was the point of my comment.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk 
wrote:
 Hi
 Thanks just downloading Tight Vnc now

 Thanks to everyone who helped
 Apart from the guy who suggested he would bring us down with a Malware 
 attack

 Regards
 Nigel



 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 15:47
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 tightvnc has always worked better for me on more systems.  I sometimes 
 use it to connect to Macs also since Apple Remote Desktop's bones are 
 VNC.

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Schvarcz
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software

 We use TightVnc instead of VNC on windows 7, works great..

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Remote control software

 Hi
 We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that 
 on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll 
 the software out to desktops.

 We could use remote assistance however!
 We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a 
 meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do 
 what we have to while they are out.

 In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time 
 for updates.

 question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I 
 get when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel:   01200 452329
 Fax:   01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
Guaranteed immune from all malware? No.

Guaranteed to be immune to malware that attacks unpatched
vulnerabilities for unsupported OSes and applications? Absolutely.

More likely to be recoverable? Oh hell yes.

Unless the environment has been extraordinarily well maintained, from
before when OP came onto the scene (we'll assume that OP is a perfect
admin, for the sake of argument), how many license keys for both OSes
and applications have gone missing? How many configs are well
documented and understood? Install disks?

There's even a further risk here for the machines that are running on
hardware that can't (easily, or even at all) be replaced.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Mayo, Bill bill.m...@pittcountync.gov wrote:
 The OP indicated quite a high price tag.  It would be one thing if you could 
 say, If we upgraded this to Windows 7 then we could not be attacked by 
 malware, but that isn't the case.  While I generally agree with you, $1 
 million is not a small amount for something that doesn't guarantee you 
 anything.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 Uh - I wasn't suggesting that I (or you) would or should bring your 
 environement down with malware.

 However, it is indubitably true if malware gets into your network, given the 
 out of date OSes and applications being run, that you could easily have a 
 disaster on your hands where so much damage was inflicted that rectifying the 
 situation could easily equal or exceed the cost of getting all of your kit up 
 to date, if not outright put the company out of business.

 And just one person with a USB stick could get it done, or, depending on the 
 architecture of the network, possibly an errant email or web browsing 
 session. The latter scenario depends on the user network connected to the 
 manufacturing network, which is all too common.

 *That* was the point of my comment.

 Kurt

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk 
 wrote:
 Hi
 Thanks just downloading Tight Vnc now

 Thanks to everyone who helped
 Apart from the guy who suggested he would bring us down with a Malware
 attack

 Regards
 Nigel



 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 15:47
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 tightvnc has always worked better for me on more systems.  I sometimes
 use it to connect to Macs also since Apple Remote Desktop's bones are
 VNC.

 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Schvarcz
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:24 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software

 We use TightVnc instead of VNC on windows 7, works great..

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Remote control software

 Hi
 We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that
 on windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll
 the software out to desktops.

 We could use remote assistance however!
 We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a
 meeting or is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do
 what we have to while they are out.

 In our IT policy it does say we can control you machine at any time
 for updates.

 question is then does anyone use VNC or similar on windows 7, all I
 get when connecting is a black screen Recommendations are very welcome

 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel:   01200 452329
 Fax:   01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




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Re: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
   Actually, I bet most malware today wouldn't know what to do with Windows 
 95.

 That's not a bet I'd want to make with my paycheck...

   I have no problem it.  I'll call my bookie and make the bet with
 your paycheck.  ;-)

 -- Ben

You have me beat - I don't have a bookie...

Kurt

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RE: Ping by name tool

2013-02-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
Here is my enterprise ready ping-in-powershell...take out all the log 
statements.

function test-ping ([string]$server)
{
[string]$routine = test-ping:

trap
{
# we should only get here if the New-Object 
fails.

log $routine Cannot create 
System.Net.NetworkInformation.Ping for $server.
return $false
}

$ping = New-Object System.Net.NetworkInformation.Ping
if ($ping)
{
trap 
[System.Management.Automation.MethodInvocationException]
{
log $routine Invalid hostname 
specified (cannot resolve $server).
return $false
}

for ($i = 0; $i -lt 5; $i++)
{
$rslt = $ping.Send($server)
if ($rslt -and ($rslt.Status 
-eq [System.Net.NetworkInformation.IPStatus]::Success))
{
log $routine 
Can ping $server. $routine successful on attempt $i.
$ping = $null
return $true
}
sleep -seconds 1
}
$ping = $null
}

log $routine Cannot ping $server. $routine failed after 5 
attempts.
return $false
}

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Ping by name tool

oh hey
http://www.myitforum.com/forums/m172057-print.aspx
4th reply.  Looks to be PowerShell v1 stuff but seems to have what you asked 
about.

$Computer = remotecomputer.domain.comhttp://remotecomputer.domain.com

if (($Ping = Get-WmiObject -Class Win32_PingStatus -Filter 
Address='$Computer').StatusCode -eq 0) {
nbtstat -A $Ping.ProtocolAddress
} else { no response to ping }


add a $servers = get-content list.txt and then put the rest in a for loop.


On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Steven Peck 
sep...@gmail.commailto:sep...@gmail.com wrote:
The BSonPosh module has a ton of stuff similar to this you could use as a 
starting point

http://bsonposh.codeplex.com/

Since it's a script module you can open them up and see how they work as well.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM, David Lum 
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote:
I'm looking for a ping tool that will ping a text file list of hostnames and 
return the reply, IP address and the NetBIOS name. Here's what I currently have 
to do:

Get list of machine names from AD, McAfee, or other systems. Ping the name
With the returned IP, do an NBTSTAT -A to check the NetBIOS name to see if it 
matches the pinged host name

I have to do this because frequently our VPN'd systems don't have a correct DNS 
entry, so some management software gets tripped up.

I could do a search for free ping tools, but figured a query here might save me 
time if someone has a tool they do that already meets this requirement. 
Advanced IP scanner comes close, but only accepts IP's and not host names as 
what to ping.

Ideally the output would be in a CSV format. I'm guessing PowerShell can do 
this too?
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Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
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RE: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

2013-02-27 Thread Webster
What hands out the IP addresses?

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

Kind of related to my earlier query, is there a way to prevent multiple DNS 
entries for a given IP address range with Windows DNS? Our VPN systems have a 
specific range of IP's and for whatever reason there's a nasty habit of many 
systems showing the same IP address in DNS.

Or perhaps the real fix is changing the VPN client (Cisco) to handle DNS 
registration correctly? That would be a different can of worms from my end, 
but...

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RE: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool

2013-02-27 Thread itli...@imcu.com
Solarwinds, didn't give me the results I wanted, I need to know how long
each page is taken to return to the client workstations for a particular
app.

Couldn't get AWSTATS to even give me one result.(Had it working on
another server last year but can not get this one to configure
properly.)

IIS reporter but it is only giving me active connections to IIS not per
page or duration times?

I saw Beta 7.0 had a IIS reporting tool but dev decided it wasn't need
for admin tools of IIS 7.5???

Seems like that would be a good thing, unless they were borrowing
someones code to get their results???

Anyways, thought I would try here??

 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Posted At: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:31 AM
Posted To: itli...@imcu.com
Conversation: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool
Subject: Re: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool

 

Given the number of google entries that cover this request, what have
you already ruled out and why?




 

 

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http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker 
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations  Information Security)
for the SMB market...

 

 

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:19 AM, itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.com
wrote:

Looking for a free IIS monitoring or reporting tool for IIS 7.5 on
server 2008 r2.

Any suggestions?

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RE: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

2013-02-27 Thread David Lum
For VPN it's the ASA, which is different than where every other systems gets 
its IP from (a Windows DC).

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

What hands out the IP addresses?

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

Kind of related to my earlier query, is there a way to prevent multiple DNS 
entries for a given IP address range with Windows DNS? Our VPN systems have a 
specific range of IP's and for whatever reason there's a nasty habit of many 
systems showing the same IP address in DNS.

Or perhaps the real fix is changing the VPN client (Cisco) to handle DNS 
registration correctly? That would be a different can of worms from my end, 
but...

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RE: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

2013-02-27 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Have the ASA act as a dhcp relay for the DC's and have the DC's handle the DNS 
registration.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

For VPN it's the ASA, which is different than where every other systems gets 
its IP from (a Windows DC).

From: Webster 
[mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]mailto:[mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

What hands out the IP addresses?

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Prevent duplicate DNS entries

Kind of related to my earlier query, is there a way to prevent multiple DNS 
entries for a given IP address range with Windows DNS? Our VPN systems have a 
specific range of IP's and for whatever reason there's a nasty habit of many 
systems showing the same IP address in DNS.

Or perhaps the real fix is changing the VPN client (Cisco) to handle DNS 
registration correctly? That would be a different can of worms from my end, 
but...

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RE: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool

2013-02-27 Thread Ken Schaefer
The best way you are going to get a true picture of this if is you run the tool 
on the client machine, or at the client's location. Not on the server.

On the server you can look at the Time-Taken field in the IIS logs to get some 
idea of how long it takes IIS to put the page onto the wire. That's not the 
same as the client actually receiving the packet, and doesn't take into account 
any proxies, accelerators, caches etc. between the server and the client.

Anyway, if you have some more requirements, then perhaps we can help with your 
searching.

Cheers
Ken

From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 7:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool

Solarwinds, didn't give me the results I wanted, I need to know how long each 
page is taken to return to the client workstations for a particular app.
Couldn't get AWSTATS to even give me one result.(Had it working on another 
server last year but can not get this one to configure properly.)
IIS reporter but it is only giving me active connections to IIS not per page or 
duration times?
I saw Beta 7.0 had a IIS reporting tool but dev decided it wasn't need for 
admin tools of IIS 7.5???
Seems like that would be a good thing, unless they were borrowing someones code 
to get their results???
Anyways, thought I would try here??


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Posted At: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:31 AM
Posted To: itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com
Conversation: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool
Subject: Re: IIS reporting/monitoring free tool

Given the number of google entries that cover this request, what have you 
already ruled out and why?






ASB
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Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations  Information Security) for the 
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On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:19 AM, itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com 
itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com wrote:
Looking for a free IIS monitoring or reporting tool for IIS 7.5 on server 2008 
r2.
Any suggestions?

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Re: P2V OEM Windows 2003

2013-02-27 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Eric Wittersheim
eric.wittersh...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. Have anyone you run
 P2V a OEM copy of Windows 2003 and then when you run it on the HV server try
 to activate it with a different license key that is not OEM?  Basically we
 have some old servers on their last legs and I'd like to put them on Windows
 2012 Data Center and use my licenses from that.

  If you've got Data Center edition, you've got a license for
unlimited VMs, and that should include downgrade rights.  When it
beaks about Activation, tell it to do phone and call the number and
explain it to the drone at the other end, and they should issue an
activation code (after lecturing you about license compliance).

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Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
All,

We've got a Lync 2010 infrastructure set up, but it's doing one little
thing that I'm not liking.

The server has two NICs - each in a different subnet. One is in the
same subnet as the rest of our servers. The other is in a subnet that
sits between our L3 switch and our firewall - it's not a DMZ.

I didn't set this up, but I was told that the intention was to set up
the second connection in the DMZ at the appropriate time for external
access - that hasn't happened yet, and I wasn't involved in the
install, and know little to nothing about Lync.

The behavior I'm seeing is that I cannot ping the interface that's on
the server subnet at all, including from machines on that subnet (I
can't RDP to that IP address either). The name of the Lync server
resolves to an IP address, and which one you get depends on the state
of DNS - you might get back the one for the server subnet, or you
might get back the other address. I can ping the other address just
fine.

So, where I'm going with this is: Both NICs have default gateways
assigned, and in my experience, that's a largish mistake - only one
interface should have a DG. I suspect this is causing some other
problems that we are seeing as well

However, the fellow who set this up swears that if I remove the DG
from either NIC, Lync will break.

So, do any of you here know enough about Lync to say if having only
one DG will break it?

Thanks,

Kurt

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RE: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

2013-02-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
Having multiple DGs is wrong. There can only be one default.

Windows behavior is non-deterministic when you have specified multiple default 
gateways.

Almost certainly, the interior one needs to be eliminated and replaced by 
either a routing table or a set of manual routes.

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

All,

We've got a Lync 2010 infrastructure set up, but it's doing one little thing 
that I'm not liking.

The server has two NICs - each in a different subnet. One is in the same subnet 
as the rest of our servers. The other is in a subnet that sits between our L3 
switch and our firewall - it's not a DMZ.

I didn't set this up, but I was told that the intention was to set up the 
second connection in the DMZ at the appropriate time for external access - that 
hasn't happened yet, and I wasn't involved in the install, and know little to 
nothing about Lync.

The behavior I'm seeing is that I cannot ping the interface that's on the 
server subnet at all, including from machines on that subnet (I can't RDP to 
that IP address either). The name of the Lync server resolves to an IP address, 
and which one you get depends on the state of DNS - you might get back the one 
for the server subnet, or you might get back the other address. I can ping the 
other address just fine.

So, where I'm going with this is: Both NICs have default gateways assigned, and 
in my experience, that's a largish mistake - only one interface should have a 
DG. I suspect this is causing some other problems that we are seeing as well

However, the fellow who set this up swears that if I remove the DG from either 
NIC, Lync will break.

So, do any of you here know enough about Lync to say if having only one DG will 
break it?

Thanks,

Kurt

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Re: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
That's exactly what I thought - I just couldn't think of a reason why
Lync would be different than any other application.

So, right now there are in effect two interior connections, which also
seems problematic.

I think I'll start the process of setting up the second NIC in the
DMZ, giving it the DG, and setting the routes up manually for the NIC
on the server subnet.

That seems the cleanest way to me.

Thanks,

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
 Having multiple DGs is wrong. There can only be one default.

 Windows behavior is non-deterministic when you have specified multiple 
 default gateways.

 Almost certainly, the interior one needs to be eliminated and replaced by 
 either a routing table or a set of manual routes.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:56 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

 All,

 We've got a Lync 2010 infrastructure set up, but it's doing one little thing 
 that I'm not liking.

 The server has two NICs - each in a different subnet. One is in the same 
 subnet as the rest of our servers. The other is in a subnet that sits between 
 our L3 switch and our firewall - it's not a DMZ.

 I didn't set this up, but I was told that the intention was to set up the 
 second connection in the DMZ at the appropriate time for external access - 
 that hasn't happened yet, and I wasn't involved in the install, and know 
 little to nothing about Lync.

 The behavior I'm seeing is that I cannot ping the interface that's on the 
 server subnet at all, including from machines on that subnet (I can't RDP to 
 that IP address either). The name of the Lync server resolves to an IP 
 address, and which one you get depends on the state of DNS - you might get 
 back the one for the server subnet, or you might get back the other address. 
 I can ping the other address just fine.

 So, where I'm going with this is: Both NICs have default gateways assigned, 
 and in my experience, that's a largish mistake - only one interface should 
 have a DG. I suspect this is causing some other problems that we are seeing 
 as well

 However, the fellow who set this up swears that if I remove the DG from 
 either NIC, Lync will break.

 So, do any of you here know enough about Lync to say if having only one DG 
 will break it?

 Thanks,

 Kurt

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Re: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

2013-02-27 Thread Sean Martin
In addition to what Michael already stated, disable DNS registration on the
NIC you don't want registering in DNS. Get used to managing static routes.

- Sean

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote:

 Having multiple DGs is wrong. There can only be one default.

 Windows behavior is non-deterministic when you have specified multiple
 default gateways.

 Almost certainly, the interior one needs to be eliminated and replaced by
 either a routing table or a set of manual routes.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:56 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

 All,

 We've got a Lync 2010 infrastructure set up, but it's doing one little
 thing that I'm not liking.

 The server has two NICs - each in a different subnet. One is in the same
 subnet as the rest of our servers. The other is in a subnet that sits
 between our L3 switch and our firewall - it's not a DMZ.

 I didn't set this up, but I was told that the intention was to set up the
 second connection in the DMZ at the appropriate time for external access -
 that hasn't happened yet, and I wasn't involved in the install, and know
 little to nothing about Lync.

 The behavior I'm seeing is that I cannot ping the interface that's on the
 server subnet at all, including from machines on that subnet (I can't RDP
 to that IP address either). The name of the Lync server resolves to an IP
 address, and which one you get depends on the state of DNS - you might get
 back the one for the server subnet, or you might get back the other
 address. I can ping the other address just fine.

 So, where I'm going with this is: Both NICs have default gateways
 assigned, and in my experience, that's a largish mistake - only one
 interface should have a DG. I suspect this is causing some other problems
 that we are seeing as well

 However, the fellow who set this up swears that if I remove the DG from
 either NIC, Lync will break.

 So, do any of you here know enough about Lync to say if having only one DG
 will break it?

 Thanks,

 Kurt

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Re: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
Good idea on the DNS setting on the NIC. Thanks for that. I'll do that
for the one with the DG when I switch it to the DMZ.

I've managed many static routes (including on UAG 2010), so that's not
a problem.

But, I've noticed that Win2k8 R2 didn't seem to like it when I added
them via netsh - I probably used the wrong incantation for my UAG
machine, and ended up using the old route command I know and love. Got
a tip for me there?

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 In addition to what Michael already stated, disable DNS registration on the
 NIC you don't want registering in DNS. Get used to managing static routes.

 - Sean

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 wrote:

 Having multiple DGs is wrong. There can only be one default.

 Windows behavior is non-deterministic when you have specified multiple
 default gateways.

 Almost certainly, the interior one needs to be eliminated and replaced by
 either a routing table or a set of manual routes.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:56 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

 All,

 We've got a Lync 2010 infrastructure set up, but it's doing one little
 thing that I'm not liking.

 The server has two NICs - each in a different subnet. One is in the same
 subnet as the rest of our servers. The other is in a subnet that sits
 between our L3 switch and our firewall - it's not a DMZ.

 I didn't set this up, but I was told that the intention was to set up the
 second connection in the DMZ at the appropriate time for external access -
 that hasn't happened yet, and I wasn't involved in the install, and know
 little to nothing about Lync.

 The behavior I'm seeing is that I cannot ping the interface that's on the
 server subnet at all, including from machines on that subnet (I can't RDP to
 that IP address either). The name of the Lync server resolves to an IP
 address, and which one you get depends on the state of DNS - you might get
 back the one for the server subnet, or you might get back the other address.
 I can ping the other address just fine.

 So, where I'm going with this is: Both NICs have default gateways
 assigned, and in my experience, that's a largish mistake - only one
 interface should have a DG. I suspect this is causing some other problems
 that we are seeing as well

 However, the fellow who set this up swears that if I remove the DG from
 either NIC, Lync will break.

 So, do any of you here know enough about Lync to say if having only one DG
 will break it?

 Thanks,

 Kurt

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RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Jon Harris

I hate to tell you this but sometimes it just is not possible to do upgrades 
whether is it due to no budget or there is just no software to run the attached 
hardware to run on newer systems.  I faced this at former $dayjob$.  Attached 
hardware was antique X-ray diffractmeter.  Last software upgrade was to Windows 
98, and I really mean Windows 98 not 98 SE, but the company had managed to get 
it to function with XP.  $dayjob$ was told to either replace hardware, $150k+ 
just for the hardware and maybe $300k for the software, or pay them to custom 
write an upgrade or patch to get it to run under Vista, and they would not even 
estimate that price.  Needless to say no upgrades were done. Jon
  From: korl...@rogers.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:49:36 -0500
 
 Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out there,
 but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be upgraded
 because the software packages won't run on anything newer and the vendor
 does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
 
 Sorry...  I really can't help it... I have to...
 
 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
 Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year old
 OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as secure
 as a whore's drawers...???
 
 Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
 least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't likely
 to expire at any moment?
 
 Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come across a
 similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty dim
 view of it...
 
 No offence intended
 
 Paul G.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software
 
 Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected once
 then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none seemed
 to work!
 Will look at logmein
 And the group policy settings 
 
 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense 
  
 
 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel:   01200 452329
 Fax:   01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software
 
 What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn? 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software
 
 Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
 want.
 
 If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
 to getting them upgraded.
 
 
 Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control software
 
 Hi
 I looked at using this
 But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning it
 on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of
 machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7 
 
 I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
 machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
 systems, 
 
 Thanks 
 
 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel:   01200 452329
 Fax:   01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
 
 
 
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software
 
 What's wrong with RDP?
 
 --Original Message--
 From: Nigel Parker
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Remote control software
 Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21
 
 Hi
 We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
 windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
 software out to desktops.
 
 We could use remote assistance however!
 We arrange a time to connect but then find the user has gone to a meeting or
 is on lunch if this is the case we can then connect and do what we have to
 while they are out.
 
 In our IT 

Re: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

2013-02-27 Thread Sean Martin
I haven't had any issues using the following syntax:

netsh interface ipv4 add route network/bitmask NIC name gateway IP

- Sean

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good idea on the DNS setting on the NIC. Thanks for that. I'll do that
 for the one with the DG when I switch it to the DMZ.

 I've managed many static routes (including on UAG 2010), so that's not
 a problem.

 But, I've noticed that Win2k8 R2 didn't seem to like it when I added
 them via netsh - I probably used the wrong incantation for my UAG
 machine, and ended up using the old route command I know and love. Got
 a tip for me there?

 Kurt

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  In addition to what Michael already stated, disable DNS registration on
 the
  NIC you don't want registering in DNS. Get used to managing static
 routes.
 
  - Sean
 
  On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Having multiple DGs is wrong. There can only be one default.
 
  Windows behavior is non-deterministic when you have specified multiple
  default gateways.
 
  Almost certainly, the interior one needs to be eliminated and replaced
 by
  either a routing table or a set of manual routes.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:56 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...
 
  All,
 
  We've got a Lync 2010 infrastructure set up, but it's doing one little
  thing that I'm not liking.
 
  The server has two NICs - each in a different subnet. One is in the same
  subnet as the rest of our servers. The other is in a subnet that sits
  between our L3 switch and our firewall - it's not a DMZ.
 
  I didn't set this up, but I was told that the intention was to set up
 the
  second connection in the DMZ at the appropriate time for external
 access -
  that hasn't happened yet, and I wasn't involved in the install, and know
  little to nothing about Lync.
 
  The behavior I'm seeing is that I cannot ping the interface that's on
 the
  server subnet at all, including from machines on that subnet (I can't
 RDP to
  that IP address either). The name of the Lync server resolves to an IP
  address, and which one you get depends on the state of DNS - you might
 get
  back the one for the server subnet, or you might get back the other
 address.
  I can ping the other address just fine.
 
  So, where I'm going with this is: Both NICs have default gateways
  assigned, and in my experience, that's a largish mistake - only one
  interface should have a DG. I suspect this is causing some other
 problems
  that we are seeing as well
 
  However, the fellow who set this up swears that if I remove the DG from
  either NIC, Lync will break.
 
  So, do any of you here know enough about Lync to say if having only one
 DG
  will break it?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Kurt
 
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Re: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
Thanks.

I'll try it again.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote:
 I haven't had any issues using the following syntax:

 netsh interface ipv4 add route network/bitmask NIC name gateway IP

 - Sean

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good idea on the DNS setting on the NIC. Thanks for that. I'll do that
 for the one with the DG when I switch it to the DMZ.

 I've managed many static routes (including on UAG 2010), so that's not
 a problem.

 But, I've noticed that Win2k8 R2 didn't seem to like it when I added
 them via netsh - I probably used the wrong incantation for my UAG
 machine, and ended up using the old route command I know and love. Got
 a tip for me there?

 Kurt

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  In addition to what Michael already stated, disable DNS registration on
  the
  NIC you don't want registering in DNS. Get used to managing static
  routes.
 
  - Sean
 
  On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Michael B. Smith
  mich...@smithcons.com
  wrote:
 
  Having multiple DGs is wrong. There can only be one default.
 
  Windows behavior is non-deterministic when you have specified multiple
  default gateways.
 
  Almost certainly, the interior one needs to be eliminated and replaced
  by
  either a routing table or a set of manual routes.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:56 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Lync issue - something I don't quite understand...
 
  All,
 
  We've got a Lync 2010 infrastructure set up, but it's doing one little
  thing that I'm not liking.
 
  The server has two NICs - each in a different subnet. One is in the
  same
  subnet as the rest of our servers. The other is in a subnet that sits
  between our L3 switch and our firewall - it's not a DMZ.
 
  I didn't set this up, but I was told that the intention was to set up
  the
  second connection in the DMZ at the appropriate time for external
  access -
  that hasn't happened yet, and I wasn't involved in the install, and
  know
  little to nothing about Lync.
 
  The behavior I'm seeing is that I cannot ping the interface that's on
  the
  server subnet at all, including from machines on that subnet (I can't
  RDP to
  that IP address either). The name of the Lync server resolves to an IP
  address, and which one you get depends on the state of DNS - you might
  get
  back the one for the server subnet, or you might get back the other
  address.
  I can ping the other address just fine.
 
  So, where I'm going with this is: Both NICs have default gateways
  assigned, and in my experience, that's a largish mistake - only one
  interface should have a DG. I suspect this is causing some other
  problems
  that we are seeing as well
 
  However, the fellow who set this up swears that if I remove the DG from
  either NIC, Lync will break.
 
  So, do any of you here know enough about Lync to say if having only one
  DG
  will break it?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Kurt
 
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Re: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
So, it *was* possible - they just didn't want to pay the price.

Let's hope they mitigated the risk somehow - perhaps by making sure it
wasn't connected to a network and by making sure they had replacement
hardware on the shelf.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:
 I hate to tell you this but sometimes it just is not possible to do upgrades
 whether is it due to no budget or there is just no software to run the
 attached hardware to run on newer systems.  I faced this at former $dayjob$.
 Attached hardware was antique X-ray diffractmeter.  Last software upgrade
 was to Windows 98, and I really mean Windows 98 not 98 SE, but the company
 had managed to get it to function with XP.  $dayjob$ was told to either
 replace hardware, $150k+ just for the hardware and maybe $300k for the
 software, or pay them to custom write an upgrade or patch to get it to run
 under Vista, and they would not even estimate that price.  Needless to say
 no upgrades were done.

 Jon

 From: korl...@rogers.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:49:36 -0500

 Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out there,
 but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be upgraded
 because the software packages won't run on anything newer and the vendor
 does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero.

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

 Sorry... I really can't help it... I have to...

 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year old
 OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as secure
 as a whore's drawers...???

 Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
 least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't
 likely
 to expire at any moment?

 Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come across
 a
 similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty dim
 view of it...

 No offence intended

 Paul G.



 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software

 Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
 once
 then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none
 seemed
 to work!
 Will look at logmein
 And the group policy settings

 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense


 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel: 01200 452329
 Fax: 01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk




 -Original Message-
 From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software

 What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn?

 -Original Message-
 From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
 want.

 If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
 to getting them upgraded.


 Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
 RELIABLY

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote control
 software

 Hi
 I looked at using this
 But if it's not configured on the machine, I didn't find a way of turning
 it
 on remotely, also as we have always used VNC and we have a veriety of
 machines from win 95 /Nt4 /windows /2000 /xp /windows7

 I wanted one program that I could use to control them all The windows 95
 machine will not be upgraded nor will the Nt4 as the run manufacturing
 systems,

 Thanks

 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel: 01200 452329
 Fax: 01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk





 -Original Message-
 From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 10:38
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Remote control software

 What's wrong with RDP?

 --Original Message--
 From: Nigel Parker
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Remote control software
 Sent: 27 Feb 2013 10:21

 Hi
 We are finally moving to windows 7 however one problem we have is that on
 windows xp we used VNC we even created a batch file that would roll the
 

RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Ken Schaefer
Mitigate, Transfer, Accept and Avoid are all legitimate risk management 
options. 

It's a management decision whether to avoid the risk (fork out a lot of money 
to upgrade), mitigate the risk through network isolation (but doing so may 
compromise the ability of the machine to work) or simply accept the risk (and 
cater for the consequences), or even to outsource the function to someone else 
(transfer the risk)

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 28 February 2013 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

So, it *was* possible - they just didn't want to pay the price.

Let's hope they mitigated the risk somehow - perhaps by making sure it wasn't 
connected to a network and by making sure they had replacement hardware on the 
shelf.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:
 I hate to tell you this but sometimes it just is not possible to do 
 upgrades whether is it due to no budget or there is just no software 
 to run the attached hardware to run on newer systems.  I faced this at former 
 $dayjob$.
 Attached hardware was antique X-ray diffractmeter.  Last software 
 upgrade was to Windows 98, and I really mean Windows 98 not 98 SE, but 
 the company had managed to get it to function with XP.  $dayjob$ was 
 told to either replace hardware, $150k+ just for the hardware and 
 maybe $300k for the software, or pay them to custom write an upgrade 
 or patch to get it to run under Vista, and they would not even 
 estimate that price.  Needless to say no upgrades were done.

 Jon

 From: korl...@rogers.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:49:36 -0500

 Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out 
 there, but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be 
 upgraded because the software packages won't run on anything newer 
 and the vendor does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero.

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

 Sorry... I really can't help it... I have to...

 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year 
 old OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about 
 as secure as a whore's drawers...???

 Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you 
 at least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that 
 isn't likely to expire at any moment?

 Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come 
 across a similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take 
 a pretty dim view of it...

 No offence intended

 Paul G.



 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
 Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Remote control software

 Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I 
 connected once then just had a a black screen, we tried various 
 workarounds but none seemed to work!
 Will look at logmein
 And the group policy settings

 Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense


 Nigel Parker
 Systems Engineer
 Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
 Tel: 01200 452329
 Fax: 01200 452201
 Web:   www.ultraframe.com
 Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk






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RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Jon Harris

In my case we kept really old systems and I pulled as much hardware out of 
retiring systems as possible to keep the existing one running.  I had the 
system IP'ed to a dead end and the firewall blocked all requests for that NIC 
to access anything beyond it although the Lab Manager was very pissed about 
this.  He had the idea that all systems in the lab were his personal property 
and I should not be managing HIS systems but he should.  The principle operator 
of the system had a bad habit of browsing to sites that he had been repeately 
warned to stay off of from office systems.  Upper Management only backed me up 
to a certain point.  I had the top person tell me to my face that if anyone 
objected to what he was viewing they should stay out of the lab!  This was a 
State research facility under a University, go figure. Jon
  Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:58:33 -0800
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
 From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 So, it *was* possible - they just didn't want to pay the price.
 
 Let's hope they mitigated the risk somehow - perhaps by making sure it
 wasn't connected to a network and by making sure they had replacement
 hardware on the shelf.
 
 Kurt
 
 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:
  I hate to tell you this but sometimes it just is not possible to do upgrades
  whether is it due to no budget or there is just no software to run the
  attached hardware to run on newer systems.  I faced this at former $dayjob$.
  Attached hardware was antique X-ray diffractmeter.  Last software upgrade
  was to Windows 98, and I really mean Windows 98 not 98 SE, but the company
  had managed to get it to function with XP.  $dayjob$ was told to either
  replace hardware, $150k+ just for the hardware and maybe $300k for the
  software, or pay them to custom write an upgrade or patch to get it to run
  under Vista, and they would not even estimate that price.  Needless to say
  no upgrades were done.
 
  Jon
 
  From: korl...@rogers.com
  To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
  Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:49:36 -0500
 
  Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out there,
  but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be upgraded
  because the software packages won't run on anything newer and the vendor
  does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
 
  Sorry... I really can't help it... I have to...
 
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
  Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year old
  OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as secure
  as a whore's drawers...???
 
  Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
  least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't
  likely
  to expire at any moment?
 
  Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come across
  a
  similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty dim
  view of it...
 
  No offence intended
 
  Paul G.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
  Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Remote control software
 
  Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
  once
  then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none
  seemed
  to work!
  Will look at logmein
  And the group policy settings
 
  Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense
 
 
  Nigel Parker
  Systems Engineer
  Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
  Tel: 01200 452329
  Fax: 01200 452201
  Web:   www.ultraframe.com
  Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
  Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Remote control software
 
  What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Remote control software
 
  Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if you
  want.
 
  If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a lever
  to getting them upgraded.
 
 
  Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
  RELIABLY
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
  Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:48:39
  To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
  ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Remote 

Re: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software

2013-02-27 Thread Kurt Buff
Well, sounds like you did what you could. It's hard working for the clueless...

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:
 In my case we kept really old systems and I pulled as much hardware out of
 retiring systems as possible to keep the existing one running.  I had the
 system IP'ed to a dead end and the firewall blocked all requests for that
 NIC to access anything beyond it although the Lab Manager was very pissed
 about this.  He had the idea that all systems in the lab were his personal
 property and I should not be managing HIS systems but he should.  The
 principle operator of the system had a bad habit of browsing to sites that
 he had been repeately warned to stay off of from office systems.  Upper
 Management only backed me up to a certain point.  I had the top person tell
 me to my face that if anyone objected to what he was viewing they should
 stay out of the lab!  This was a State research facility under a University,
 go figure.

 Jon

 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:58:33 -0800

 Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
 From: kurt.b...@gmail.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 So, it *was* possible - they just didn't want to pay the price.

 Let's hope they mitigated the risk somehow - perhaps by making sure it
 wasn't connected to a network and by making sure they had replacement
 hardware on the shelf.

 Kurt

 On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote:
  I hate to tell you this but sometimes it just is not possible to do
  upgrades
  whether is it due to no budget or there is just no software to run the
  attached hardware to run on newer systems. I faced this at former
  $dayjob$.
  Attached hardware was antique X-ray diffractmeter. Last software upgrade
  was to Windows 98, and I really mean Windows 98 not 98 SE, but the
  company
  had managed to get it to function with XP. $dayjob$ was told to either
  replace hardware, $150k+ just for the hardware and maybe $300k for the
  software, or pay them to custom write an upgrade or patch to get it to
  run
  under Vista, and they would not even estimate that price. Needless to
  say
  no upgrades were done.
 
  Jon
 
  From: korl...@rogers.com
  To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  Subject: RE: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
  Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:49:36 -0500
 
  Some of us are constrained by budget. I still have W2K systems out
  there,
  but none of them have internet access or email. Some can't be upgraded
  because the software packages won't run on anything newer and the
  vendor
  does not offer it. I have no budget for new hardware. Zero.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 8:42 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: [Bulk] RE: Remote control software
 
  Sorry... I really can't help it... I have to...
 
  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 
  Laugh out loud... - you're running *PRODUCTION* systems on an 18 year
  old
  OS, that has been out of support for over a decade, and is about as
  secure
  as a whore's drawers...???
 
  Are these systems running on similarly ancient hardware, or have you at
  least managed to virtualise them so they can be run on kit that isn't
  likely
  to expire at any moment?
 
  Sorry if I sound unsympathetic... but I do quite occasionally come
  across
  a
  similar blinkered attitude in $dayjob, and I really do take a pretty
  dim
  view of it...
 
  No offence intended
 
  Paul G.
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nigel Parker [mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk]
  Sent: 27 February 2013 11:47
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Remote control software
 
  Hi tried vnc lite it didn't seem to work well on windows 7 I connected
  once
  then just had a a black screen, we tried various workarounds but none
  seemed
  to work!
  Will look at logmein
  And the group policy settings
 
  Upgrading 95 and nt4 isn't an option due to the expense
 
 
  Nigel Parker
  Systems Engineer
  Ultraframe (UK) Ltd
  Tel: 01200 452329
  Fax: 01200 452201
  Web: www.ultraframe.com
  Email: mailto:nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com]
  Sent: 27 February 2013 11:30
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Remote control software
 
  What about VNC Lite or LogMeIn?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:06 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Remote control software
 
  Turn it on using Group Policy. I can tell you the objects you need if
  you
  want.
 
  If you still have Win 95 and NT4, well, issues like this should be a
  lever
  to getting them upgraded.
 
 
  Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
  RELIABLY
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Nigel Parker nigel.par...@ultraframe.co.uk
  Date: Wed, 27