Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread James Rankin
Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I
regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the
online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply
reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and
recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to
think it might not be really fit for purpose.

Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?

Cheers,



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RE: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Webster
I thought it was a piece of crap and stopped using it.

Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Google Drive

Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I 
regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the online 
version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply reappears as soon 
as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and recently all my 
Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to think it might not be 
really fit for purpose.

Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?



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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:37 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general?

  Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor.

  It must still be in Beta.  Wait another few years.

  ;-)

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RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

2013-04-10 Thread Crawford, Scott
Clever

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Mark Boersma
Sent: 4/9/2013 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

My policy is to block zip files by size.  If you block all zips smaller than 
500k you’ll stop all the viruses.  Allow zips larger than 500k and those will 
be the legit files.  Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely works.  Obviously I 
have scanners and such running too but that is my attachment policy.

Mark
-
Two rules for success in life:
1. Never tell people everything you know.


From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a 
special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the 
appliance can’t inspect those).

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they were 
blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we’ve received 
infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today we caught it 
before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and greatest variants 
“First seen by VirusTotal 2013-04-09 09:51:15 UTC (4 hours, 58 minutes ago)”.  
Grr…
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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I haven't even tried it.  Thank you for making me feel even better about my
decision.





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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:37 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I
 regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the
 online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply
 reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and
 recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to
 think it might not be really fit for purpose.

 Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?

 Cheers,



 --
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 Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
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RE: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Richard McClary
Well, today's XKCD episode is just simply not funny!

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Ben Scott 
mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:37 AM, James Rankin 
kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general?
  Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor.

  It must still be in Beta.  Wait another few years.

  ;-)

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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Especially the mouse-over...  :)





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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Richard McClary
richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote:

 Well, today’s XKCD episode is just simply not funny!

 ** **

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 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:02 AM

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 *Subject:* Re: Google Drive

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 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:**
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 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:37 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
 wrote:
  Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general?
 

   Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor.


   It must still be in Beta.  Wait another few years.

   ;-)

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Re: Datadomain / Exagrid - Backup Times over Cat5

2013-04-10 Thread Jon D
True. I'm trying to backup ~4TB in under 12 hours. 8 hours would be nice...
I think a single 1Gig Cat5 cable is going to get me around 23 hours at
around 850Mbps





On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm trying to wrap my head around the speed of backup appliances like
 Data
  Domain and Exagrid.
  The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the backups are going across
  Cat5.
  It seems like they would be really slow for a full backup.

   That depends how fast the network you're running is, and how much
 data you've got to worry about, and maybe other things.

   Gigabit Ethernet can stream 125,000,000 8-bit quantities per second.
  Framing and protocol overhead rob significantly from that.  Let's
 assume 75% efficiency, just to have a number.  That's 93 megabytes per
 second, or 337 gigabytes in one hour.  If you're only backing up a
 terabyte, that might be just fine.  If you're backing up a petabyte,
 not so much.

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RE: Datadomain / Exagrid - Backup Times over Cat5

2013-04-10 Thread Bourque Daniel
Not necessarily, don't mix capacity with speed.  A 2 link Port-Channel is still 
2 x 1 Gbs link.  If the backup is between only 2 IP (not multiplexing backup 
from multiple sources), the Port-Channel algorithm will still give you only 1 
Gbs per IP pairs or port pair, etc.  You have to check the load-balancing 
option of the Port-Channel in your system.  There is multiple algorithm 
available to load-balance in the Port-Channel.  You have to chose the correct 
one for your system.
 
 



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A two-port trunk will reduce that significantly, of course...


 

 

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote:


True. I'm trying to backup ~4TB in under 12 hours. 8 hours would be 
nice...
I think a single 1Gig Cat5 cable is going to get me around 23 hours at 
around 850Mbps
 
 
 


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 I'm trying to wrap my head around the speed of backup 
appliances like Data
 Domain and Exagrid.
 The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the backups are 
going across
 Cat5.
 It seems like they would be really slow for a full backup.


  That depends how fast the network you're running is, and how 
much
data you've got to worry about, and maybe other things.

  Gigabit Ethernet can stream 125,000,000 8-bit quantities per 
second.
 Framing and protocol overhead rob significantly from that.  
Let's
assume 75% efficiency, just to have a number.  That's 93 
megabytes per
second, or 337 gigabytes in one hour.  If you're only backing 
up a
terabyte, that might be just fine.  If you're backing up a 
petabyte,
not so much.

-- Ben


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Re: Datadomain / Exagrid - Backup Times over Cat5

2013-04-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote:
   That depends how fast the network you're running is, and how much
 data you've got to worry about, and maybe other things.

 True. I'm trying to backup ~4TB in under 12 hours. 8 hours would be nice...
 I think a single 1Gig Cat5 cable is going to get me around 23 hours at
 around 850Mbps

  This is where the other things come into play.  If the
change-delta, de-dupe, compression, and other magic happens on the
agent side of the backup, you may see significant gains.

  For example, if you're backing up a bunch of small files, and churn
is low, and the backup solution uses the maintain a full mirror of
original model, and it only copies the changed files, your nightly
backup might only need to ship a tiny amount of data over the wire.
Or if they're large files but it has good change-delta handling.

  Even without such magic, you may also be able to do a longer full
backup on weekends, then an incremental/differential on weeknights.

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Re: Datadomain / Exagrid - Backup Times over Cat5

2013-04-10 Thread johonn2 _
We don't use DD or Exagrid but i can give you some numbers on that size.

We do a NAS backup not through NDMP.  4.3TB ~5.6 mil files.
NAS and backup media server are LACP'ed at 4Gig.  We hit at least 2.4Gbps
on the media server nightly
We dedup at the mediaserver for the NAS

A new full takes ~2-3 days using one stream.  Multi-streams i could get it
under 1 day.
Incr takes 9 hours single stream, pretty regular at 140GBs and 1.4 mil files
We no longer do real fulls and instead do synthetic with take 16 hours to
compile.

Our Friday INCR which includes PST files takes 19 hours, ~1.4 mil files but
the sized is increase to ~640GBs

We have another file server with 12TB and some where close to 20 mil files
We multi stream this server  with Dedup at the client

Incr backups of 1.6 mil files at ~36Gbs takes about 4 hours.
A raw full takes almost a week.


While backup technology is changing for the most part when an incremental
is completed you are still scanning every file to check the modify date or
archive bit.

I am not sure about DD or Exagrid but for us Netbackup they started
tracking file changes to dramatically decrease the full backups.  Not that
we have the latest version to take advantage of this.


If network bandwidth is really a challenge and not file count then look to
spreading out your fulls less often.  Do a Full backup every 1-2 months, a
differential every week and an incremental every day.  We do this for our
DNA sequencers which spit our 2TBs a patient.  We do a twice a year,
differential every month and incremental every day.





On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote:
That depends how fast the network you're running is, and how much
  data you've got to worry about, and maybe other things.
 
  True. I'm trying to backup ~4TB in under 12 hours. 8 hours would be
 nice...
  I think a single 1Gig Cat5 cable is going to get me around 23 hours at
  around 850Mbps

   This is where the other things come into play.  If the
 change-delta, de-dupe, compression, and other magic happens on the
 agent side of the backup, you may see significant gains.

   For example, if you're backing up a bunch of small files, and churn
 is low, and the backup solution uses the maintain a full mirror of
 original model, and it only copies the changed files, your nightly
 backup might only need to ship a tiny amount of data over the wire.
 Or if they're large files but it has good change-delta handling.

   Even without such magic, you may also be able to do a longer full
 backup on weekends, then an incremental/differential on weeknights.

 -- Ben

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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Matthew W. Ross
I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been 
trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have been 
using Dropbox and Cubby.

I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any problems. 
It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to index every 
time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually long time.

The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to 
FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.

Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool that 
works anywhere I go.



How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you 
using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you 
are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing 
would work if you had it open on multiple computers...)

Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google 
Chrome?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: James Rankin
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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
03:37:57 -0800
Subject: Google Drive


 Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I
 regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the
 online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply
 reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and
 recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to
 think it might not be really fit for purpose.
 
 Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 
 -- 
 *James Rankin*
 Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk
 
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 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Matthew W. Ross
   Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor.
 

It's odd: Microsoft is producing fewer and fewer service packs over the years. 
Trend? Is this a good thing, or bad?

   It must still be in Beta.  Wait another few years.

Alpha is the new Beta. Beta is the new 1.0.

 
   ;-)
 
 -- Ben


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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Subject: Re: Google Drive


 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:37 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
  Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general?
 
   Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor.
 
   It must still be in Beta.  Wait another few years.
 
   ;-)
 
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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread kz20fl
Yes, you've got the idea, my portable apps (including Firefox) are installed 
into my Google Drive folder. The idea is, get a new machine, install Google 
Drive, create a shortcut and I have all my apps.

I try not to use them simultaneously on different machines and I have to pause 
the Google sync when I run FF portable, but it mostly worked OK until I lost 
the bookmarks that were sync-ed thru Firefox. I can only assume there was some 
sort of conflict.

The issue with the reappearing Trash in the online version also spooks me, as 
its often the web version that causes the conflicts.


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-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:40:19 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Google Drive

I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been 
trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have been 
using Dropbox and Cubby.

I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any problems. 
It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to index every 
time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually long time.

The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to 
FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.

Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool that 
works anywhere I go.



How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you 
using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you 
are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing 
would work if you had it open on multiple computers...)

Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google 
Chrome?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
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Subject: Google Drive


 Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I
 regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the
 online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply
 reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and
 recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to
 think it might not be really fit for purpose.
 
 Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 
 -- 
 *James Rankin*
 Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk
 
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RE: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Tobie Fysh
If we are throwing out our fav syncing tools SkyDrive rocks, Windows, Windows 
RT and Windows Phone all in sync.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Matthew W. Rossmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
Sent: ‎10/‎04/‎2013 18:15
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Google Drive

I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been 
trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have been 
using Dropbox and Cubby.

I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any problems. 
It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to index every 
time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually long time.

The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to 
FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.

Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool that 
works anywhere I go.



How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you 
using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you 
are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing 
would work if you had it open on multiple computers...)

Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google 
Chrome?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
03:37:57 -0800
Subject: Google Drive


 Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I
 regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the
 online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply
 reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps and
 recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to
 think it might not be really fit for purpose.

 Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?

 Cheers,



 --
 *James Rankin*
 Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk

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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Matthew W. Ross
mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote:
   Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor.

 It's odd: Microsoft is producing fewer and fewer service packs over the years.

  No, they're not.  If anything, they're producing more.  They're just
calling them Cumulative Updates and Update Rollups and Feature
Packs and other names now.

  The party line is that one kind of package is for just fixes and the
other is more for new functionality, but they have said that in the
past about Service Packs, too (and also said the opposite, and changed
their minds, multiple times), and the supposedly smaller updates still
include major changes (e.g., you need a CU for Exchange '10 to work
with Exchange '13, which is kind of a big deal), so as far as I can
tell, nothing's changed.

  It's a standard technique for big companies: If it doesn't work,
give it a new name.  If it still doesn't work, the new name wasn't
long enough.

-- Ben

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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread kz20fl
Citrix have a similar approach

If it doesn't work, give it a new name. If it does work, give it a new name 
too.

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From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:28:32 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Google Drive

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Matthew W. Ross
mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote:
   Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor.

 It's odd: Microsoft is producing fewer and fewer service packs over the years.

  No, they're not.  If anything, they're producing more.  They're just
calling them Cumulative Updates and Update Rollups and Feature
Packs and other names now.

  The party line is that one kind of package is for just fixes and the
other is more for new functionality, but they have said that in the
past about Service Packs, too (and also said the opposite, and changed
their minds, multiple times), and the supposedly smaller updates still
include major changes (e.g., you need a CU for Exchange '10 to work
with Exchange '13, which is kind of a big deal), so as far as I can
tell, nothing's changed.

  It's a standard technique for big companies: If it doesn't work,
give it a new name.  If it still doesn't work, the new name wasn't
long enough.

-- Ben

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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Matthew W. Ross
 Yes, you've got the idea, my portable apps (including Firefox) are installed
 into my Google Drive folder. The idea is, get a new machine, install Google
 Drive, create a shortcut and I have all my apps.
 
I like the idea... but I don't. There are a lot of PortlableApps that don't 
work well unless they can see an acutal drive letter, and most of them like to 
be in the root of the drive (i.e.: x:\PortableApps)

Here's an idea: Make robocopy script that does that sync. Use Google Drive as a 
backup (or Dropbox, or whatever) and viola.

 I try not to use them simultaneously on different machines and I have to
 pause the Google sync when I run FF portable, but it mostly worked OK until
 I lost the bookmarks that were sync-ed thru Firefox. I can only assume there
 was some sort of conflict.

Pausing the sync? Sounds like that might be the reason you're getting issues.

 The issue with the reappearing Trash in the online version also spooks me,
 as its often the web version that causes the conflicts.

Imagine if you pause the sync, then turn it back on... maybe that's why your 
Re-syncing your trash?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: kz2...@googlemail.com
To: NT System
Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 10
Apr 2013 10:01:31 -0800
Subject: Re: Google Drive


 Yes, you've got the idea, my portable apps (including Firefox) are installed
 into my Google Drive folder. The idea is, get a new machine, install Google
 Drive, create a shortcut and I have all my apps.
 
 I try not to use them simultaneously on different machines and I have to
 pause the Google sync when I run FF portable, but it mostly worked OK until
 I lost the bookmarks that were sync-ed thru Firefox. I can only assume there
 was some sort of conflict.
 
 The issue with the reappearing Trash in the online version also spooks me,
 as its often the web version that causes the conflicts.
 
 
 Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org
 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:40:19 
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Google Drive
 
 I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been
 trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have
 been using Dropbox and Cubby.
 
 I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any
 problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to
 index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually
 long time.
 
 The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to
 FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.
 
 Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool
 that works anywhere I go.
 
 
 
 How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you
 using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you
 are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing
 would work if you had it open on multiple computers...)
 
 Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google
 Chrome?
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: James Rankin
 [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
 03:37:57 -0800
 Subject: Google Drive
 
 
  Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I
  regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the
  online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply
  reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps
 and
  recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to
  think it might not be really fit for purpose.
  
  Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?
  
  Cheers,
  
  
  
  -- 
  *James Rankin*
  Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
  http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk
  
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
  
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RE: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Matthew W. Ross
I really need to try SkyDrive. It's mostly my negative bias toward Microsoft 
that has stopped me from trying it.

That, and they killed their old Live Sync.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: Tobie Fysh
[mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
10:25:05 -0800
Subject: RE: Google Drive


 If we are throwing out our fav syncing tools SkyDrive rocks, Windows,
 Windows RT and Windows Phone all in sync.
 
 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Matthew W. Rossmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
 Sent: ‎10/‎04/‎2013 18:15
 To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Re: Google Drive
 
 I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been
 trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have
 been using Dropbox and Cubby.
 
 I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any
 problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to
 index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually
 long time.
 
 The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to
 FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.
 
 Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool
 that works anywhere I go.
 
 
 
 How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you
 using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you
 are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing
 would work if you had it open on multiple computers...)
 
 Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google
 Chrome?
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: James Rankin
 [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
 03:37:57 -0800
 Subject: Google Drive
 
 
  Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I
  regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the
  online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply
  reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps
 and
  recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to
  think it might not be really fit for purpose.
 
  Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?
 
  Cheers,
 
 
 
  --
  *James Rankin*
  Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS)
  http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
 
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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread kz20fl
Maybe I should have mentioned I'm using the PortableApps.com AppLauncher from 
within Google Drive. This seems to keep all the apps working quite well - 
except FF. They even update themselves, which is well cool.

The reason the sync has to be paused while using FF is because Google Drive 
seems to bork after a load of retries with locked files. All the other apps 
work fine - but to be honest, none of them are particularly complex.

I was just wondering if anyone else had had any success with similar setups but 
maybe using different providers? It seemed like a nice way to decouple my apps 
from the OS without the infrastructure and management overhead of stuff like 
Citrix, App-V, and the like, but for anything particularly complicated such as 
a browser with sync capability, it doesn't seem to be a reliable fit. Unless 
it's the interplay between FF's built-in synchronization and the app 
synchronization that is giving me problems? I may try turning off the native FF 
bookmark sync and see how it goes.

Interesting discussion anyway!

Cheers,



JR

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-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:52:38 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Google Drive

 Yes, you've got the idea, my portable apps (including Firefox) are installed
 into my Google Drive folder. The idea is, get a new machine, install Google
 Drive, create a shortcut and I have all my apps.
 
I like the idea... but I don't. There are a lot of PortlableApps that don't 
work well unless they can see an acutal drive letter, and most of them like to 
be in the root of the drive (i.e.: x:\PortableApps)

Here's an idea: Make robocopy script that does that sync. Use Google Drive as a 
backup (or Dropbox, or whatever) and viola.

 I try not to use them simultaneously on different machines and I have to
 pause the Google sync when I run FF portable, but it mostly worked OK until
 I lost the bookmarks that were sync-ed thru Firefox. I can only assume there
 was some sort of conflict.

Pausing the sync? Sounds like that might be the reason you're getting issues.

 The issue with the reappearing Trash in the online version also spooks me,
 as its often the web version that causes the conflicts.

Imagine if you pause the sync, then turn it back on... maybe that's why your 
Re-syncing your trash?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: kz2...@googlemail.com
To: NT System
Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 10
Apr 2013 10:01:31 -0800
Subject: Re: Google Drive


 Yes, you've got the idea, my portable apps (including Firefox) are installed
 into my Google Drive folder. The idea is, get a new machine, install Google
 Drive, create a shortcut and I have all my apps.
 
 I try not to use them simultaneously on different machines and I have to
 pause the Google sync when I run FF portable, but it mostly worked OK until
 I lost the bookmarks that were sync-ed thru Firefox. I can only assume there
 was some sort of conflict.
 
 The issue with the reappearing Trash in the online version also spooks me,
 as its often the web version that causes the conflicts.
 
 
 Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org
 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:40:19 
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Google Drive
 
 I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been
 trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have
 been using Dropbox and Cubby.
 
 I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any
 problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to
 index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually
 long time.
 
 The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to
 FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.
 
 Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool
 that works anywhere I go.
 
 
 
 How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you
 using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you
 are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing
 would work if you had it open on multiple computers...)
 
 Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google
 Chrome?
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: James Rankin
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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread kz20fl
SkyDrive Pro appears to be making some headway now too - based around the usual 
MS attack vector of it's free with whatever license you're already paying us 
for


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From: Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:54:38 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Google Drive

I really need to try SkyDrive. It's mostly my negative bias toward Microsoft 
that has stopped me from trying it.

That, and they killed their old Live Sync.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: Tobie Fysh
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To: NT System Admin Issues
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10:25:05 -0800
Subject: RE: Google Drive


 If we are throwing out our fav syncing tools SkyDrive rocks, Windows,
 Windows RT and Windows Phone all in sync.
 
 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Matthew W. Rossmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
 Sent: ‎10/‎04/‎2013 18:15
 To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Re: Google Drive
 
 I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have been
 trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I also have
 been using Dropbox and Cubby.
 
 I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any
 problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox likes to
 index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take an unusually
 long time.
 
 The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get (Scan to
 FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.
 
 Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing tool
 that works anywhere I go.
 
 
 
 How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? Are you
 using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the problems when you
 are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I just wonder how syncing
 would work if you had it open on multiple computers...)
 
 Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like Google
 Chrome?
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
 
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  Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in general? I
  regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and if I go to the
  online version and try to empty the Trash folder, everything simply
  reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using it with Portable Apps
 and
  recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am beginning to
  think it might not be really fit for purpose.
 
  Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?
 
  Cheers,
 
 
 
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RE: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Maglinger, Paul
And Cisco...

-Original Message-
From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Google Drive

Citrix have a similar approach

If it doesn't work, give it a new name. If it does work, give it a new name 
too.

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-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:28:32
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Google Drive

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org 
wrote:
   Wait for the next Service Pack... er, sorry, wrong vendor.

 It's odd: Microsoft is producing fewer and fewer service packs over the years.

  No, they're not.  If anything, they're producing more.  They're just calling 
them Cumulative Updates and Update Rollups and Feature Packs and other 
names now.

  The party line is that one kind of package is for just fixes and the other is 
more for new functionality, but they have said that in the past about Service 
Packs, too (and also said the opposite, and changed their minds, multiple 
times), and the supposedly smaller updates still include major changes (e.g., 
you need a CU for Exchange '10 to work with Exchange '13, which is kind of a 
big deal), so as far as I can tell, nothing's changed.

  It's a standard technique for big companies: If it doesn't work, give it a 
new name.  If it still doesn't work, the new name wasn't long enough.

-- Ben

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RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

2013-04-10 Thread Sam Cayze
My Symantec Enterprise license keys come in a 1KB ZIP file.

 

So. No.  Too risky.

 

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

Clever 

Sent from my Windows Phone

  _  

From: Mark Boersma
Sent: 4/9/2013 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

My policy is to block zip files by size.  If you block all zips smaller than
500k you'll stop all the viruses.  Allow zips larger than 500k and those
will be the legit files.  Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely works.
Obviously I have scanners and such running too but that is my attachment
policy.

 

Mark

-

Two rules for success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

 

From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a
special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the
appliance can't inspect those).

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they were
blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we've received
infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today we caught
it before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and greatest
variants First seen by VirusTotal 2013-04-09 09:51:15 UTC (4 hours, 58
minutes ago).  Grr.

David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

2013-04-10 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Don't do it!

Sm:)e.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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To: NT System Admin Issues
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Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
11:46:57 -0800
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments


 My Symantec Enterprise license keys come in a 1KB ZIP file.
 
  
 
 So. No.  Too risky.
 
  
 
 From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:31 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments
 
  
 
 Clever 
 
 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
   _  
 
 From: Mark Boersma
 Sent: 4/9/2013 10:20 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments
 
 My policy is to block zip files by size.  If you block all zips smaller than
 500k you'll stop all the viruses.  Allow zips larger than 500k and those
 will be the legit files.  Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely works.
 Obviously I have scanners and such running too but that is my attachment
 policy.
 
  
 
 Mark
 
 -
 
 Two rules for success in life:
 
 1. Never tell people everything you know.
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments
 
  
 
 We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a
 special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the
 appliance can't inspect those).
 
  
 
 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: .ZIP file e-mail attachments
 
  
 
 Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they were
 blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we've received
 infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today we caught
 it before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and greatest
 variants First seen by VirusTotal 2013-04-09 09:51:15 UTC (4 hours, 58
 minutes ago).  Grr.
 
 David Lum 
 Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
 
  
 
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Re: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

2013-04-10 Thread kz20fl
Symantec is well known to impact system performance in the same way malware 
does, so the rule stands ;-)


Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:46:57 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

My Symantec Enterprise license keys come in a 1KB ZIP file.

 

So. No.  Too risky.

 

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

Clever 

Sent from my Windows Phone

  _  

From: Mark Boersma
Sent: 4/9/2013 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

My policy is to block zip files by size.  If you block all zips smaller than
500k you'll stop all the viruses.  Allow zips larger than 500k and those
will be the legit files.  Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely works.
Obviously I have scanners and such running too but that is my attachment
policy.

 

Mark

-

Two rules for success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

 

From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a
special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the
appliance can't inspect those).

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they were
blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we've received
infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today we caught
it before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and greatest
variants First seen by VirusTotal 2013-04-09 09:51:15 UTC (4 hours, 58
minutes ago).  Grr.

David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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Re: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

2013-04-10 Thread Jonathan Link
Nicely done.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Symantec is well known to impact system performance in the same way
 malware does, so the rule stands ;-)

 Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email
 RELIABLY
 --
 *From: * Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com
 *Date: *Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:46:57 -0500
 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 My Symantec Enterprise license keys come in a 1KB ZIP file.

 ** **

 So… No.  Too risky.

 ** **

 *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:31 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 ** **

 Clever

 Sent from my Windows Phone
 --

 *From: *Mark Boersma
 *Sent: *4/9/2013 10:20 AM
 *To: *NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject: *RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 My policy is to block zip files by size.  If you block all zips smaller
 than 500k you’ll stop all the viruses.  Allow zips larger than 500k and
 those will be the legit files.  Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely
 works.  Obviously I have scanners and such running too but that is my
 attachment policy.

  

 Mark

 -

 Two rules for success in life:

 1. Never tell people everything you know.

  

  

 *From:* Mayo, Bill 
 [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.govbill.m...@pittcountync.gov]

 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

  

 We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a
 special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the
 appliance can’t inspect those).

  

 *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org david@nwea.org]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* .ZIP file e-mail attachments

  

 Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they
 were blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we’ve
 received infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today
 we caught it before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and
 greatest variants “First seen by VirusTotal 2013-04-09 09:51:15 UTC (4
 hours, 58 minutes ago)”.  Grr…

 *David Lum*
 Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
 Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

  

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Re: Datadomain / Exagrid - Backup Times over Cat5

2013-04-10 Thread Andrew S. Baker
If all of your backups are from Box A to Box B, then both will need to be
trunked for there to be any benefits in throughput.

However, if there are multiple concurrent backups at play from multiple
sources, then trunking on the backup device will still provide for more
throughput than a single network connection.

Of course, as Kevin points out, there are several other factors to consider
in a backup scenario.





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On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Bourque Daniel 
daniel.bour...@loto-quebec.com wrote:

 **
 Not necessarily, don't mix capacity with speed.  A 2 link Port-Channel is
 still 2 x 1 Gbs link.  If the backup is between only 2 IP (not multiplexing
 backup from multiple sources), the Port-Channel algorithm will still give
 you only 1 Gbs per IP pairs or port pair, etc.  You have to check the
 load-balancing option of the Port-Channel in your system.  There is
 multiple algorithm available to load-balance in the Port-Channel.  You have
 to chose the correct one for your system.



  --
 *De :* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Envoyé :* 10 avril 2013 10:27
 *À :* NT System Admin Issues
 *Objet :* Re: Datadomain / Exagrid - Backup Times over Cat5

  A two-port trunk will reduce that significantly, of course...





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 On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote:

  True. I'm trying to backup ~4TB in under 12 hours. 8 hours would be
 nice...
 I think a single 1Gig Cat5 cable is going to get me around 23 hours at
 around 850Mbps





 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Jon D rekcahp...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm trying to wrap my head around the speed of backup appliances like
 Data
  Domain and Exagrid.
  The thing that doesn't make sense to me is the backups are going across
  Cat5.
  It seems like they would be really slow for a full backup.

   That depends how fast the network you're running is, and how much
 data you've got to worry about, and maybe other things.

   Gigabit Ethernet can stream 125,000,000 8-bit quantities per second.
  Framing and protocol overhead rob significantly from that.  Let's
 assume 75% efficiency, just to have a number.  That's 93 megabytes per
 second, or 337 gigabytes in one hour.  If you're only backing up a
 terabyte, that might be just fine.  If you're backing up a petabyte,
 not so much.

 -- Ben

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RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

2013-04-10 Thread Sam Cayze
How'd I know somebody would make a comment like that :)

 

I'm only using their Email Protection Server.  It's fantastic.

 

From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

Symantec is well known to impact system performance in the same way malware
does, so the rule stands ;-)

Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY

  _  

From: Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.com 

Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 13:46:57 -0500

To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

My Symantec Enterprise license keys come in a 1KB ZIP file.

 

So. No.  Too risky.

 

From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

Clever 

Sent from my Windows Phone

  _  

From: Mark Boersma
Sent: 4/9/2013 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

My policy is to block zip files by size.  If you block all zips smaller than
500k you'll stop all the viruses.  Allow zips larger than 500k and those
will be the legit files.  Sounds sort of silly but it absolutely works.
Obviously I have scanners and such running too but that is my attachment
policy.

 

Mark

-

Two rules for success in life:

1. Never tell people everything you know.

 

 

From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

We mostly rely on our appliance (IronPort) to catch them, but we do have a
special rule that quarantines any password-protected ZIP files (because the
appliance can't inspect those).

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:51 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: .ZIP file e-mail attachments

 

Do any of you guys still allow this? I ask because at %formerjob% they were
blocked, but %dayjob% allows them, and last week and today we've received
infected .ZIP files. Last week was another autorun outbreak, today we caught
it before anyone actually ran it. We keep getting latest and greatest
variants First seen by VirusTotal 2013-04-09 09:51:15 UTC (4 hours, 58
minutes ago).  Grr.

David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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Push msi install package

2013-04-10 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Folks,

We use Ricoh printers/copiers here.  They provide an agent that can be
installed onto desktops so we can manage print configuration, setup, and
reporting.

The agent is signed with a valid public certificate.  The problem I am
having is that the push installation (via System Center Essentails) fails,
I think because users always receive the Open File Security Warning popup
if this is run manually, but I try to surpress that with the /quiet switch,
and it fails.   I can disable that via GPO, but I do not wish to do that.

Do I need to go back to the vendor and have them recompile as an EXE
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RE: Push msi install package

2013-04-10 Thread David Lum
I always have better luck with .MSI's vs. exe's. Have you tried the various 
other switches available with the .MSI file?

Dave

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Push msi install package

Hi Folks,

We use Ricoh printers/copiers here.  They provide an agent that can be 
installed onto desktops so we can manage print configuration, setup, and 
reporting.

The agent is signed with a valid public certificate.  The problem I am having 
is that the push installation (via System Center Essentails) fails, I think 
because users always receive the Open File Security Warning popup if this is 
run manually, but I try to surpress that with the /quiet switch, and it fails.  
 I can disable that via GPO, but I do not wish to do that.

Do I need to go back to the vendor and have them recompile as an EXE instead?  
Suggestions appreciated.

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Re: Push msi install package

2013-04-10 Thread Tom Miller
Any swith I use (/qb, /passive, etc) works fine after the user accepts the
warning dialog.  It's the dialog that I think is making the managed
installation fail.


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

  I always have better luck with .MSI’s vs. exe’s. Have you tried the
 various other switches available with the .MSI file?

 ** **

 Dave

 ** **

 *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:36 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Push msi install package

 ** **

 Hi Folks,

  

 We use Ricoh printers/copiers here.  They provide an agent that can be
 installed onto desktops so we can manage print configuration, setup, and
 reporting.

  

 The agent is signed with a valid public certificate.  The problem I am
 having is that the push installation (via System Center Essentails) fails,
 I think because users always receive the Open File Security Warning popup
 if this is run manually, but I try to surpress that with the /quiet switch,
 and it fails.   I can disable that via GPO, but I do not wish to do that.
 

  

 Do I need to go back to the vendor and have them recompile as an EXE
 instead?  Suggestions appreciated.

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RE: Push msi install package

2013-04-10 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Sounds like you are pushing it at users? Push it to the machines perhaps.

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Push msi install package

Hi Folks,

We use Ricoh printers/copiers here.  They provide an agent that can be 
installed onto desktops so we can manage print configuration, setup, and 
reporting.

The agent is signed with a valid public certificate.  The problem I am having 
is that the push installation (via System Center Essentails) fails, I think 
because users always receive the Open File Security Warning popup if this is 
run manually, but I try to surpress that with the /quiet switch, and it fails.  
 I can disable that via GPO, but I do not wish to do that.

Do I need to go back to the vendor and have them recompile as an EXE instead?  
Suggestions appreciated.

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RE: Push msi install package

2013-04-10 Thread Aakash Shah
Another option to try is to add the server path to the Local Intranet zone - 
this has helped me get around these security prompts.

-Aakash Shah

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Push msi install package

Any swith I use (/qb, /passive, etc) works fine after the user accepts the 
warning dialog.  It's the dialog that I think is making the managed 
installation fail.

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, David Lum 
david@nwea.orgmailto:david@nwea.org wrote:
I always have better luck with .MSI's vs. exe's. Have you tried the various 
other switches available with the .MSI file?

Dave

From: Tom Miller 
[mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.commailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Push msi install package

Hi Folks,

We use Ricoh printers/copiers here.  They provide an agent that can be 
installed onto desktops so we can manage print configuration, setup, and 
reporting.

The agent is signed with a valid public certificate.  The problem I am having 
is that the push installation (via System Center Essentails) fails, I think 
because users always receive the Open File Security Warning popup if this is 
run manually, but I try to surpress that with the /quiet switch, and it fails.  
 I can disable that via GPO, but I do not wish to do that.

Do I need to go back to the vendor and have them recompile as an EXE instead?  
Suggestions appreciated.

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RE: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread James Hill
Skydrive works really well.  I was using Live Mesh until they killed it but 
have found Skydrive to be very reliable so far.

James.

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Google Drive

I really need to try SkyDrive. It's mostly my negative bias toward Microsoft 
that has stopped me from trying it.

That, and they killed their old Live Sync.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Tobie Fysh
[mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
10:25:05 -0800
Subject: RE: Google Drive


 If we are throwing out our fav syncing tools SkyDrive rocks, Windows, 
 Windows RT and Windows Phone all in sync.
 
 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Matthew W. Rossmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
 Sent: ‎10/‎04/‎2013 18:15
 To: NT System Admin 
 Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Re: Google Drive
 
 I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have 
 been trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I 
 also have been using Dropbox and Cubby.
 
 I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any 
 problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox 
 likes to index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take 
 an unusually long time.
 
 The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get 
 (Scan to FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.
 
 Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing 
 tool that works anywhere I go.
 
 
 
 How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? 
 Are you using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the 
 problems when you are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I 
 just wonder how syncing would work if you had it open on multiple 
 computers...)
 
 Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like 
 Google Chrome?
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: James Rankin
 [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
 03:37:57 -0800
 Subject: Google Drive
 
 
  Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in 
  general? I regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and 
  if I go to the online version and try to empty the Trash folder, 
  everything simply reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using 
  it with Portable Apps
 and
  recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am 
  beginning to think it might not be really fit for purpose.
 
  Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?
 
  Cheers,
 
 
 
  --
  *James Rankin*
  Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) 
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Re: Google Drive

2013-04-10 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Been using SkyDrive on the ipad been working well.  

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 10, 2013, at 7:15 PM, James Hill falc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Skydrive works really well.  I was using Live Mesh until they killed it but 
 have found Skydrive to be very reliable so far.
 
 James.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
 Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 3:55 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Google Drive
 
 I really need to try SkyDrive. It's mostly my negative bias toward Microsoft 
 that has stopped me from trying it.
 
 That, and they killed their old Live Sync.
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Tobie Fysh
 [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk]
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
 10:25:05 -0800
 Subject: RE: Google Drive
 
 
 If we are throwing out our fav syncing tools SkyDrive rocks, Windows, 
 Windows RT and Windows Phone all in sync.
 
 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Matthew W. Rossmailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
 Sent: ‎10/‎04/‎2013 18:15
 To: NT System Admin 
 Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Re: Google Drive
 
 I use Google Drive all the time, at least the online version. I have 
 been trying a lot of different syncing solutions as of late, as I 
 also have been using Dropbox and Cubby.
 
 I have the desktop client on my home PC, but it has not given me any 
 problems. It behaves a lot better than Dropbox for me, as Dropbox 
 likes to index every time I am forced to reboot, which seems to take 
 an unusually long time.
 
 The client at home I use to drop in PDFs of important mailers I get 
 (Scan to FTP, copy to Google Drive) so that I have is wherever I need them.
 
 Otherwise, it's a simple web-based word processor/spreadsheet/drawing 
 tool that works anywhere I go.
 
 
 
 How are you trying to sync your Firefox bookmarks with Google drive? 
 Are you using the Portable Apps version of Firefox, and seeing the 
 problems when you are mixing the two together? (Very cool idea, BTW. I 
 just wonder how syncing would work if you had it open on multiple 
 computers...)
 
 Doesn't Firefox now have a native bookmark syncing feature, much like 
 Google Chrome?
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: James Rankin
 [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013
 03:37:57 -0800
 Subject: Google Drive
 
 
 Anyone else using Google Drive and think it is a bit rubbish in 
 general? I regularly get sync failures, errors in the software, and 
 if I go to the online version and try to empty the Trash folder, 
 everything simply reappears as soon as I delete it. I've been using 
 it with Portable Apps
 and
 recently all my Firefox bookmarks just disappeared, so I am 
 beginning to think it might not be really fit for purpose.
 
 Anyone else had similar issues, or got any feedback to report?
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 
 --
 *James Rankin*
 Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) 
 http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk
 
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