Re: Personal Gmail and Blocking user from attaching documents.
Anytime you want to write a sentence rather than throwing random words in to an email while waiting for people to do your job for you would be fine. -Original Message- From: justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 19:39:25 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Personal Gmail and Blocking user from attaching documents. Dropbox google drive sky drive owa when at home pc? On Tuesday, May 15, 2012, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Just use a web filter to block all web-based email sites? On 15 May 2012 19:58, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote: Are anyone here in the group blocking access to Gmail, or other webmail beside work realted, and how are we dealing with blocking work documents from being uploaded / attached to personal inbox? Thanks, -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent, sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted, amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent in or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway, but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung, drawn and quartered. I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some level of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in some sort of fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be unlawful, and as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell makes you quake in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement immediately. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately. That would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending emails to completely the wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my status as a technical consultant and sent to do something more becoming of my stupidity, such as appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or insert country name here's Got Talent. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Justin IT-TECH ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the
Re: New to virtualization
Speed. Very common. -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 12:50:19 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: New to virtualization I am still researching and meeting w/ vendors. One thing that has just come up w/ a particular vendor. They are telling me that they would put in 3 hosts, w/ no hard drives and that VMware would run off a USB stick??? This sounds pretty cheesy to me... is this common practice? What are the pros/cons to USB stick vs a pair of mirrored drives on the hosts? From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to virtualization The reality here is that you're not going to spend $130k on a virtualisation solution and not want to add more VM's, Honestly, just add DataCenter from the get-go - you'll make use of it I guarantee it. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 March 2012 14:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: New to virtualization I admit it was a while back, it may have changed, or my understanding was incorrect. Or someone told me that and I read it that way. In any event, I think 12 total servers for his environment may be a bit low... Or it may not be. With Datacenter licensing, if he loses a host, he can move the guests to the other machines and do some back of the hand guestimate based on load balancing not licensing. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: No this is incorrect. Check the Microsoft Windows Server licensing guide: http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/D/9/0D9DDF52-A855-487B-9B74-5A0 9A9389551/Windows%20Server%20System%20Center%20and%20Forefront%20Pricing %20and%20Licensing%20Guide.pdf You can move individual VOSE licenses between Enterprise Hosts, provided that no host ends up exceeding the 1 POSE + 4 VOSE limit per enterprise license. For more than 4 VOSEs on a physical host, you need 2 (or more) enterprise licenses. Check out page 8 on the document above - has this exact example in a diagram. Cheers Ken From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2012 1:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: New to virtualization It's even a more (unenforcebly) stringent than that. If you run 4 VMs on 3 hosts with enterprise server on each host, you power down two and do a switch, you're in a licensing violation situation. Technically, you have to move all 3 from one host to another. So single licensing or Datacenter, or some oddball combination of single licenses and enterprise licenses (DAMHIKT). Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way I read the license. And I prefer to play it straight/conservative. I'll look forward to your response in about 4-6 hours. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: And I'm not familiar with the HP hardware, so it's very possible they can-I just didn't see anything about clustering in the original post. Why it's important is one thing MS had told us is if you are planning on clustering, in an environment like this, you are out of compliance with licensing as soon as you migrate the 5th VM over to a server that is only running Enterprise edition (such as to down one of the 3 servers for patching). That is of course, unless you own separate individual server licenses for those VMs. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: New to virtualization I have VM hosts at home that can support 6-8 hosts easily. At the office, we have hosts that can support 15-20 VMs pretty easily. Of course, this depends on the workload of the boxes, but for all but the most extreme workloads, this is probably doable. If you build each host to support 30-40% more VMs than normal, then you can suffer a failure of one of them without great difficulty. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Miller Bonnie L. mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu wrote: I don't see any mention of failover clustering. Right now, how much do you lose if one server is down? How much would you lose if 4 servers were down instead? Just a thought, but you could add another host server, or stick with three, run datacenter, and build them with enough guts to run 6 VMs each. That also gives you the ability to spin up test servers, etc, as you mentioned. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 8:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: New to virtualization Hi all, I am starting to investigate moving our aging network
Re: Request for thread-kill on NTSYSADMIN
But of course it's cease and desist after you've said your piece, because you're special? Hah. -Original Message- From: Joe Gibson jodgi...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:56:47 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Request for thread-kill on NTSYSADMIN I agree. Now this thread has become even more useless because we all pipe in why the thread is useless. Cease and desist. J On Mar 19, 2012 6:24 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:35 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Uh, you are not required to OPEN each and every item, and further more, there is a subject for every item that hits the list. That said, this list does tend to go off on tangents from time to time, so let's all play nice! There is a difference between an occasional tangent and a multi-week off-topic digression which devolves into personal attacks. This is the later. A number of people are acting distinctly unprofessional, and I, for one, would like it to stop. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Help desk software
Talk about a retarded and obnoxious disclaimer. -Original Message- From: Bourque Daniel daniel.bour...@loto-quebec.com Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 17:07:43 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Help desk software HelpSpot. Pretty good for us and we are getting out of Remedy too Daniel Bourque De : Rene de Haas [mailto:rene.deh...@gmail.com] Envoyé : Saturday, March 17, 2012 04:57 PM À : NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Objet : Re: Help desk software Or Request Tracker or OTRS. Didn't use any of these myself btw. Op 16 mrt. 2012 21:58 schreef Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com het volgende: www.inet-sciences.com Roger Wright ___ ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION: the inability to become excited over any of the choices for President put forth by either party in the 2012 election year On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Ray rz...@qwest.net wrote: I know this has come up before, but I have a few variables not everyone would have. I have users on a restricted VLAN (and finally a child domain so they're at least logging onto the network) with no internet access or email. I also have staff with internet and exchange. All of them can get to a centralized server. I just need basic ticketing. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: list delays
Nice. Very nice. -Original Message- From: Don Ely don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: list delays For those that don't recall... Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall... Said tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more interesting... Said tool, was responsible for exchange and all things security at Labor Ready. Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly. All the while, some information gathering was being performed. Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise his employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior. For some reason he thought he was untouchable... Needless to say, Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to show remorse... It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor Ready. He was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the internal network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy that their company received a security audit/penetration test on the house at the time... We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard from again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to reduce the attack surface... A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study the LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort... Well, not to me anyway... On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.comwrote: ** ? -- *From: * Don Ely don@gmail.com *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: list delays Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list... :D On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual usually then it help of some kind not attacks. BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time. Jon On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I think your moniker is well-deserved - masters of the list is very cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail, I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that, though. Maybe I'm naive geek, but I'm not worrying about it. IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers. Signature will soon be gone. Cheers, JR On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just doesn't make any sense to me. Butwhatever. You know I've considered using my real name on here several times. However, after seeing how a lot of the masters of this list treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it. The masters find enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list. I wouldn't put it past some or the masters to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc. This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature. It's also funny, so I tend to give it a pass. I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable. The list members have come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature. Is Mr Rankin's long? Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either. Turning this on its head. If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin trimming his signature, why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to use your real name? Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate. Community is built when people know who their peers
Re: list delays
Yeah, but he's done posting here, so I'd call that a friggin' win. -Original Message- From: Max Tork maxt...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:43:08 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: list delays Again, your deduction skills fail you. You are making assertions which not only are untrue, but for which you neither have evidence or proof. -Max On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Max for calling me and posing as a computer user needing help, which I suspected was a lie immediately. Thank you also for creating a fake help desk ticket (or two if you were also FBI Dude.) Thank you for also contacting the local cleaning company to clean up my Internet business. And thank you for using an email address which doesn't show up in a Google result. I will NEVER post anything to this list ever again, which I'm sure will please many of you. Now would you all please quit harassing me?! On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Max Tork maxt...@gmail.com wrote: What's more... I believe he helped us out, provided conent, and made list_member some money. Or some such claims. -Max On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Mack S. Bolan mack.bola...@gmail.comwrote: The interesting thing reading this growing thread from afar is how the Cynic somehow feels blameless in all this after launching the salvo about a blurb of text causing list serv slowness. Then assaulting the character of list verterans or masters with a self-fulfilling prophecy, after claiming he was protecting himself by not using his real name. And others are now joining in further comforting him and continuing his inability to accept personal responsibility. Fascinating. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: list delays
Which is a confirmation of your ID and profile(s) posted earlier. So you may as well change your display name now, eh? -Original Message- From: cynicalg...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:17:09 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comCc: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: list delays Yes we are geographically linked is all. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:23 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Curiously your, er maybe, LinkedIn profile went down shortly after I posted it though. And was linked to Mr. Aldrich...just curious is all. - WJR On Mar 14, 2012 4:19 PM, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe you have me, maybe you don't. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:35 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure you're safe in your anonymity... 1993 Lawrence Brownlee Trombone Dalton, GA IT Director for local law firm Looking back now...being WonderBoy. cynicalg...@gmail.com - WJR Don't let the T-shirt fool you On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:53, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just doesn't make any sense to me. Butwhatever. You know I've considered using my real name on here several times. However, after seeing how a lot of the masters of this list treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it. The masters find enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list. I wouldn't put it past some or the masters to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc. This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature. It's also funny, so I tend to give it a pass. I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable. The list members have come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature. Is Mr Rankin's long? Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either. Turning this on its head. If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin trimming his signature, why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to use your real name? Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate. Community is built when people know who their peers are. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last name. #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless. #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list NOTHING and improve the service of the list. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: 1 demerit for you sir! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight sir. Jon On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with references included! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also. --Original Message-- From: cynicalg...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28 Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: wow. 4 hour delays on postings. really, this should be fixed or ditch lyris. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
Re: list delays
He was. Not inappropriate. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:45:18 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: list delays Didn't see anyone call you a tool... On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:09 PM, cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: And I'm the one that's called a tool? I probably made money for you James. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2012, at 5:37 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: On 14 March 2012 19:48, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Amit’s better looking too. Ok, couldn't resist a signature update with all this talk about it. I need to remember to remove it when I email important clients though, I sent one to a guy at AppSense the other day with it on and luckily he thought it was hilarious. Apologies to all who may not like it, can I send you a GMail invite? JR -- http://appsensebigot.blogspot.com IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent, sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted, amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent in or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway, but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung, drawn and quartered. I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some level of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in some sort of fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be unlawful, and as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell makes you quake in your boots and turn yourself over to law enforcement immediately. If you receive this e-mail by mistake, please advise the sender immediately. That would be me, and as I am clearly prone to sending emails to completely the wrong person, I should instantly be stripped of my status as a technical consultant and sent to do something more becoming of my stupidity, such as appearing on Big Brother, the X Factor or insert country name here's Got Talent. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send
Re: Carolina BBQ Sauce (was Re: Proxy server and ISA)
You have my attention, and I haven't ticked AZ off my States List yet... -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:48:03 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Carolina BBQ Sauce (was Re: Proxy server and ISA) Come on out to AZ and you can try it. A couple of photos... http://deserthawkconsulting.com/bbq1.html *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Carolina BBQ Sauce (was Re: Proxy server and ISA) I think you need to provide samples to prove your pulled pork is worthy of the challenge ! : ) On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: Trade you pulled pork cooking methods, rubs, and sauce recipes... :-) I'll put my pulled pork up against anyone anywhere anytime... *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** -Original Message- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Carolina BBQ Sauce (was Re: Proxy server and ISA) As for BBQ sauce... I don't use it. Well, except on pulled pork. But I'm still building the sauce from the drippings I managed to catch. And if you're done cooking in less than 6 hours, you're just grillin... Just sayin... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: list delays
? -Original Message- From: Don Ely don@gmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: list delays Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list... :D On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual usually then it help of some kind not attacks. BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time. Jon On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.comwrote: I think your moniker is well-deserved - masters of the list is very cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail, I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that, though. Maybe I'm naive geek, but I'm not worrying about it. IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers. Signature will soon be gone. Cheers, JR On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other people just doesn't make any sense to me. Butwhatever. You know I've considered using my real name on here several times. However, after seeing how a lot of the masters of this list treat the readers of the list, I'll never do it. The masters find enjoyment in berating and personally attacking readers of the list. I wouldn't put it past some or the masters to actually look somebody up and either A) call a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc. This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not using my real name. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: It's pretty easy to ignore a signature. It's also funny, so I tend to give it a pass. I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those are pretty objectionable. The list members have come down hard on people with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature. Is Mr Rankin's long? Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, either. Turning this on its head. If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin trimming his signature, why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to use your real name? Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate. Community is built when people know who their peers are. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.comwrote: #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and last name. #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless. #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list NOTHING and improve the service of the list. On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: 1 demerit for you sir! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.comwrote: Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers tonight sir. Jon On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed with references included! On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also. --Original Message-- From: cynicalg...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28 Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: wow. 4 hour delays on postings. really, this should be fixed or ditch lyris. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
Re: New to virtualization
I don't have a supporting link for this handy, but not only 'can' you run vCenter in a VM, that is currently VMware's declared best practice. G -- Gary K. Slinger Practice/Content Manager, Virtualization Services Practice Mainline Information Systems Office: 727-475-1947 (Tampa, FL) -Original Message- From: Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edu Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:00:18 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: New to virtualization In a VMware environment VirtualCenter (or vCenter Server) is the management box for handling all your VMware servers and guests. This server *can* be a VM and is supported as such. Some people have nervous twitches about it, but it's perfectly workable. DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to virtualization Thanks, Right now I have 3 DL360s (dual proc, 4GB, 32bit) for 75 Citrix users and they are taxed pretty hard. I always get alerts for CPU and RAM, and if I physically check the boxes, they usually say 200M free of ram, w/ 6GB pagefile in use. What do you mean by Virtualizing VirtualCenter? From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: New to virtualization Nothing wrong with virtualizing your Citrix kit, but another thing you'll need to remember the latest Citrix XenApp version (soon to be the only supported one, by July 2013) is 64-bit only, so you'll need to do some heavy app testing to make sure everything will work OK. If it doesn't, you'll have to invest in some other way of getting at those apps (VDI, VM Hosted Apps, etc.) Obviously you won't get as many users on a virtual XenApp system as you do on a physical one (unless your physical ones are highly underpowered) - I've seen round about 30-40 users per box being a ballpark figure dependent on the RAM and processing power you throw at the VMs. The only thing you really maybe need to leave physical is a DNS server, maybe a DC if you want to be able to log in to the domain when everything else is down. Virtualizing VirtualCenter (if you go the VMWare route) isn't that much of an issue. On 13 March 2012 15:04, David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.commailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote: Hi all, I am starting to investigate moving our aging network infrastructure into the virtual world. ~ 10 servers, 6-7 years old Windows 2003 domain Exchange 2003 Citrix 4.0 farm ~190 users After some initial discussions w/ a reseller, here's what they are recommending: (3) DL 380 G7 servers (to host the VMs) ~$18,000 (1) Net App FAS2240 (this is the SAN that would host 12 600GB drives of storage for the VMs) ~$20,000 VMWare essentials plus kit (VMware software) ~$5200 (3) MS Windows 2008 R2 Enterprise (this would allow the 3 HP servers to run 4 Windows 2008 VMs each) I guess the way it would work is that the VMs would reside on the SAN, and the 3 hosts would call up the SAN to load each VM utilizing the host's CPU, RAM, NIC, etc.)... right? I have meetings scheduled w/ 2 other vendors, but verbally both have started the conversation along the same path as above. Being very new to VM, does the above scenario seem to make sense? It is hard for me to imagine all that traffic going between the SAN and the host servers w/o creating a huge bottleneck (over gig Ethernet) Do people recommend virtualizing every server? Domain controllers? Exchange? Citrix farm (4 server)? Shouldn't something be left physical? Is 7 TB of storage enough (probably only 3 usable after array config)? Is the net app a decent appliance? $20k sounds cheap to me... I have done a little more reading, and from what I understand w/ 3 Windows Enterprise licenses, I would be limiting myself to 12 VMs. However, if I went w/ 3 Windows Datacenter licenses, for a small increase in price - I would get unlimited VMs? Which would allow for actually having a testing environment, and better patch deployment? Thx . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER
Re: list delays
Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext real-world name, that would be a good thing also. --Original Message-- From: cynicalg...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: list delays Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28 Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email signature on demand we would all be better off. ;) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: wow. 4 hour delays on postings. really, this should be fixed or ditch lyris. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
To borrow from the response of CB II, if you think that was really abusive, you may need to get out more. On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Richard McClary richard.mccl...@aspca.orgwrote: +1 I have no right to call myself a peer. I am a research biologist by training. It's just that one fateful day, I was told, You're good at fixing computers; you are now our systems administrator!. I cannot adequately express how much I have learned from this forum and how helpful it has been! Ben and ASB have been especially helpful. I've been chided by them and others on occasion, and I admit I deserved it. Still, again, some who subscribe to this forum are folks whose organization have tossed them in over their heads. That's one blanket statement. As to another blanket statement, I did not see the really abusive language until Stu quoted the message. No, such language is definitely NOT acceptable to me and to countless others! -- Richard D. McClary Jr Infrastructure Architect, Information Technology Group ASPCA(r) 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36 Urbana, IL 61802 richard.mccl...@aspca.org P: 217-337-9761 C: 217-417-1182 F: 217-337-9761 www.aspca.org -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Please don't presume to speak for unspecified others in a blanket statement. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is from The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals® (ASPCA®) and is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or use of the contents of this e-mail, and any attachments hereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify me by reply email and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
Aldrich belongs on a tech mailing list about as much as I belong at a meeting with the Pope. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 23:33:17 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Windows File Archive I guess John has moved on. I, for one, will miss his (indirect) contributions to the list. They were often the catalyst for some fairly decent discussions. http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmaldrich From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 8:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Jesus fucking christ. what are you, carpet boys' twin? From: Cesare' A. Ramos cra...@idfllc.commailto:cra...@idfllc.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:09:34 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
When you are my peer and have my respect, or are my client (McDonalds has customers) and are paying me, different rules apply. Neither was in effect in this instance. Is it time to form the Care Bear Mailing List again? -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 05:52:17 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Windows File Archive I'm astounded that you think personal name-calling is an acceptable way to behave. Do you treat peers and customers the same way when they ask you questions that you think are incomplete or naïve? Cheers Ken From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012 11:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive Acceptable is a relative term. Knowing Gary as well as I do I can assure you it was acceptable to him. Knowing others here as well I can safely say it's acceptable to them as well. Honestly Gary's response is pretty spot on, the function of a professional list typically is for peers of an expected experience level, and part of that expectation is to do some of your own work as this is not a place for could you please do my thinking for me? The correlation to Carpet Boy is apropos as a good known reference point for repeated offenses of this type of generally agreed upon unacceptable behavior. That said, given my record here, I expect to be summarily ignored. - WJR On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 00:53, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Calling someone as asshole is acceptable, simply because they asked an incomplete question? Or asking if they are related to carpet boy? That's ad hominem, unnecessary and unprofessional. Whilst we might have disagreements, let's keep the conversation civil, and talking about the topic and not the man/woman. Cheers Ken From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive On the otherhand, a bitch-slap can be a healthy and needed aspect of Apprenticeship. It makes people think - about thinking for themselves and to make greater considerations of the details involved with whatever their question may be - before they ask an incomplete question, or try to move forward with an incomplete thought again. This list, while very friendly, has been more tolerating than recently than in the past of such things. Not necessarily a bad thing, but also something notably annoying to many more experienced professionals. And there is the rub; this is a bitch-slap, not an act of unprofessional - because this is not a professional forum. This forum is highly social, and a bitch-slap is a social adjustment. -- Espi On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: While I may not employ Gary's colorful vocabulary, I agree with his basic sentiment. I would think a solution would include such a capability. If you are rolling your own then I suggest testing as I have had false positives with robocopy. On Thursday, March 8, 2012, Cesare' A. Ramos cra...@idfllc.commailto:cra...@idfllc.com wrote: Some of you on this list need to get out more or understand what the purpose of a professional exchange is, as it is my understanding these lists are for. At times we all need to bounce things off each other, as no one person has all the answers. In addition, questions are simple at times there is no need for high level of complexity to impress anyone. Thanks for the help Michael and Joseph, clearly you guys read the subject on the e-mail. CAR From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I
Re: Windows File Archive
The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
I bring my own. Fuckmonkey was a timely volunteer for me to vent. fuck him. -Original Message- From: Don Ely don@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 18:43:22 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Windows File Archive Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. -- *From: * Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com *Date: *Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. -- *From:* Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows File Archive
It's professional exchange, asshole, not professional hand-holding, hug the tree, kindergarten. -Original Message- From: Cesare' A. Ramos cra...@idfllc.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:46:16 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Windows File Archive Some of you on this list need to get out more or understand what the purpose of a professional exchange is, as it is my understanding these lists are for. At times we all need to bounce things off each other, as no one person has all the answers. In addition, questions are simple at times there is no need for high level of complexity to impress anyone. Thanks for the help Michael and Joseph, clearly you guys read the subject on the e-mail. CAR From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 9:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows File Archive The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused
Re: Windows File Archive
That was last nights douchebag. Tonight, they had Grease on, which was tolerable. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 21:48:53 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Windows File Archive Someone ordered red wine and wanted to watch Idol. On Thursday, March 8, 2012, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: Hotel bar out of alcohol again? ;o) On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with you damn do-gooders trying to answer his question is: * he hasn't stated what system he's working on, * or copying to, * or what he's tried, * or what he's considered. Is robocopy a windows only solution? (All I know it as, and I'm not interested enough to look it up). Suppose he's on unix, linux, or mac? (I understand some people use those?). Or even some old fashioned big iron or something in-between like an AS/400 (yes, I know what they're called now)... I realize it's not likely, given the third-grade nature of his question. But after all, he does work for a company billing itself as 'Your Technology Solutions Provider'. So be careful, folks, he's a 'professional'. Shit, for all I can tell from the original post, he's trying to copy PDF's from his SAN to his iPhone or something. Via his Outlook Server or Linux Email or something. Actually, I apologize. Carpet boy was probably smarter. And yes, I realize how dumb that sounds. FFS. From: Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 02:18:39 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Windows File Archive Robocopy with /MINAGE switch. You can exclude any files newer than your limit. From: Cesare' A. Ramos [cra...@idfllc.com] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows File Archive Hellos all. Looking for a utility to scan a storage server and copy off files that have not been accessed in the past 180 days to an external archive solution. Any thoughts? CAR This e-Mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-Mail in error please notify the sender via returned e-Mail. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-Mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Although IDF operates anti-virus programs, it does not accept responsibility for any damage whatsoever that is caused by viruses being passed. ** Think before you print this message. ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Reinstallation of Windows 7
How many people need to tell you you're wrong before you get it? On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 8:29 AM, HELP_PC g...@enter.it wrote: Repair may be upgade at the same time if you added or replaced hardware Guido Elia HELPPC - HELPPC SERVICE -Messaggio originale- Da: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Inviato: venerdì 10 febbraio 2012 13.24 A: NT System Admin Issues Oggetto: Re: Reinstallation of Windows 7 On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM, HELP_PC g...@enter.it wrote: I think everybody knows that with XP you could perform a repair install from the boot cd. This exactly what you cannot do with windows 7. A repair install (upgrade) REQUIRES YOU HAVE A BOOTABLE SYSTEM Repair is not the same as Upgrade. Stop looking for Upgrade. You do not want Upgrade. Please read the following instructions: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/What-are-the-system-recovery-options-in-Windows-7 ) In particular, the section on To open the System Recovery Options menu using the Windows 7 installation disc or a USB flash drive, or a system repair disc would seem to be what you're looking for. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: South Florida position.
LMFAO. This, FTW. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 18:54:47 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: South Florida position. Your sarcasm does not help your post. Plus, I worked a year in Fort Lauderdale. I am politely refraining from openly talking shit about your company. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:00 PM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Guys, ** ** THANK YOU for your input. It REALLY is constructive. And, if you know someone willing to start with low pay and grow (skipping the sales part as it’s an added bonus anyhow), please let us know. ** ** *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:05 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: South Florida position. ** ** You need to seriously reassess your compensation. Its way out of balance with your expectations. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:42 AM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Folks, I truly hope this is allowed and that I don't upset people by this e-mail. We're looking for some reliable people to start and grow with us. If you know anyone, please forward this to them. Thanks! On-Site Computer Field Technician Tech Support Rep (Hollywood, Aventura, North Miami Beach) Please DO NOT apply for this position if you do not meet all the qualifications listed below. Job Purpose: Candidates will be required to manage and deliver On-Site Over-the-phone services including repairing servers and workstations by utilizing diagnostic and repair techniques, virus/malware removal, data backup, operating system installation, end user software support. Common job tasks also associated with the core job functions are pre post sales and support, help desk and customer support to users by researching and answering questions; resolving problems; providing resources. Candidates will also need to be able to create marketing advertising materials for use by the company. In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month. Duties: - Repair workstations while logging repair work orders; responding to requests. - Comply with policies while adhering to requirements; advising management of needed actions. - Update job knowledge by participating in educational opportunities; reading technical publications. - Enhance organization reputation by accepting ownership for accomplishing new and different requests; exploring opportunities to add value to job accomplishments. - Receive materials by inspecting shipped contents against order; verifying receipt; arranging for shipment of missing items; tracking backorders. - Provide answers to clients by identifying problems; researching answers; guiding client through corrective steps. - Improve client references by writing and maintaining documentation. - Participate in development of client training programs by identifying learning issues; recommending instructional language. - Accommodate client disabilities by recommending devices and techniques. - Improve system performance by identifying problems; recommending changes. - Accomplish information systems and organization mission by completing related results as needed. - Develop new concepts/techniques and complete assignments/tasks in innovative and effective ways. - To be considered for this position, you must put resume for job 210222 in the subject line of your e-mail. - Work on assignments that may be extremely complex in nature where a high degree of independent judgment, initiative and technical knowledge is required to resolve problems. - Complete work independently and handle unique situations. - Determine optimal methods and procedures for new assignments. - Answer incoming calls and assist customers with issues. - Remove systems from premises when required and return upon repair while maintaining responsibility. - Participate in local marketing events such as Chamber of Commerce meetings. Skills/Qualifications: - Knowledge of MS products and the ability to verify that the system starts up and works after installation. - Working knowledge of XP, Vista, Win 7, Win 2003, Win 2008 operating systems. - Ability to perform data transfers and setup computers, laptops, printers and other peripherals. - Familiarity with various types of laptops and their peripherals. - Familiarity with networking protocols with troubleshooting skills. - Attention to details and organizational skills. - Ability to communicate verbally and in written form. - Customer service skills are required. - Problem Solving, Electronics / Computer Troubleshooting, Software Testing,
Re: South Florida position.
And by unrealistic, he means friggin' stupid. That's ~50K/year. Parking valets in that part of Florida can make that much. And whoever wrote the job description? Does he want a pony for Christmas as well? Because he might as well have written to Santa Claus. (Please don't say 'but the things are optional'. That is NOT what the word 'required' in the description means). 50K and I don't get mileage and expenses? I wouldn't get out of bed for that. You're not asking for a junior. You're asking for a slave. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:23:05 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: South Florida position. Honestly. Still seems unrealistic. On Thursday, February 2, 2012, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Um.. anyone notice the $25/hr part? From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 6:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: South Florida position. I thought I was the only one that paused when I read $12/hr after such an exhaustive description. On Thursday, February 2, 2012, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: You need to seriously reassess your compensation. Its way out of balance with your expectations. -- Espi On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:42 AM, gro...@beachcomp.com wrote: Folks, I truly hope this is allowed and that I don't upset people by this e-mail. We're looking for some reliable people to start and grow with us. If you know anyone, please forward this to them. Thanks! On-Site Computer Field Technician Tech Support Rep (Hollywood, Aventura, North Miami Beach) Please DO NOT apply for this position if you do not meet all the qualifications listed below. Job Purpose: Candidates will be required to manage and deliver On-Site Over-the-phone services including repairing servers and workstations by utilizing diagnostic and repair techniques, virus/malware removal, data backup, operating system installation, end user software support. Common job tasks also associated with the core job functions are pre post sales and support, help desk and customer support to users by researching and answering questions; resolving problems; providing resources. Candidates will also need to be able to create marketing advertising materials for use by the company. In addition to the duties listed below, candidate will be required to actively market the services offered by the company and accomplish a goal of Two signed maintenance agreements per month. Duties: - Repair workstations while logging repair work orders; responding to requests. - Comply with policies while adhering to requirements; advising management of needed actions. - Update job knowledge by participating in educational opportunities; reading technical publications. - Enhance organization reputation by accepting ownership for accomplishing new and different requests; exploring opportunities to add value to job accomplishments. - Receive materials by inspecting shipped contents against order; verifying receipt; arranging for shipment of missing items; tracking backorders. - Provide answers to clients by identifying problems; researching answers; guiding client through corrective steps. - Improve client references by writing and maintaining documentation. - Participate in development of client training programs by identifying learning issues; recommending instructional language. - Accommodate client disabilities by recommending devices and techniques. - Improve system performance by identifying problems; recommending changes. - Accomplish information systems and organization mission by completing related results as needed. - Develop new concepts/techniques and complete assignments/tasks in innovative and effective ways. - To be considered for this position, you must put resume for job 210222 in the subject line of your e-mail. - Work on assignments that may be extremely complex in nature where a high degree of independent judgment, initiative and technical knowledge is required to resolve problems. - Complete work independently and handle unique situations. - Determine optimal methods and procedures for new assignments. - Answer incoming calls and assist customers with issues. - Remove systems from premises when required and return upon repair while maintaining responsibility. - Participate in local marketing events such as Chamber of Commerce meetings. Skills/Qualifications: - Knowledge of MS products and the ability to verify that the system starts up and works after installation. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to
Re: Lync
Depending on his setup, he wouldn't /make/ that much, he's /billing/ that much. My org's rates default to around 200/hr for that kind of work, FWIW. And we're 'cheap' in our marketplace as well. -Original Message- From: David Lum david@nwea.org Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:58:24 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Lync Wow, I didn't make very close to that on my 12hr extravaganza 2K8 R2 upgrade the other night. I'm in the wrong line of work. Nah. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Lync He's got 15 days on the quote...so probably just over $1000 per day. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com wrote: That's not much. At $150 (which is low for this work), that's a little over three weeks of work for one person. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438tel:312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132tel:312.731.3132 From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Lync I'm starting to plan for a Lync installation here, and a consultant gave me a quote of almost $20K for planning and implementation (no hardware or licensing included). I'm sensing that is way overkill. I figure with a little research it will integrate fairly simply with my AD and Exchange installs. I'd like to go with a single server setup, any gotchas, caveats or real life experience anyone can share? Thanks Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Lync
I don't '+1', but if I did, I would have, to this. Those '5 minute' calls and emails are a big thing we factor in. Yes, it's 'customer service', but it's time that a billable person is often assigned elsewhere, and thus extra to be fitted in. Engagements are rarely 'done and gone'. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 11:39:42 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Lync Keep in mind that for a complete package, it's not just onsite server build / configuration. There is a tremendous amount of install and posibly process documentation that should go along with a service like this in addition to knowledge transfer and time lost due to waiting on your own change control etc. While I am not a consultant, we expect documentation and knowledge transfer from ours and we build in our own time and availability to accomadate this. There are also sometimes the occasional follow up email and 5 minute phone calls that don't get billed back in the days and week leading to the project end. So don't think of a quote as just the time to implement, but in all the time and documentation it takes to prepare, implement and turn over. Of course, you may have had a different idea. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: The actual consultant might now be getting close to that rate, either. :) * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Wow, I didn’t make very close to that on my 12hr extravaganza 2K8 R2 upgrade the other night. I’m in the wrong line of work. ** ** Nah. ** ** *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Lync ** ** He's got 15 days on the quote...so probably just over $1000 per day. *** * On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: *That’s not much. At $150 (which is low for this work), that’s a little over three weeks of work for one person. * * * *Thanks,* *Brian Desmond* *br...@briandesmond.com* * * *w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132* * * *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:34 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Lync I'm starting to plan for a Lync installation here, and a consultant gave me a quote of almost $20K for planning and implementation (no hardware or licensing included). I'm sensing that is way overkill. I figure with a little research it will integrate fairly simply with my AD and Exchange installs. I'd like to go with a single server setup, any gotchas, caveats or real life experience anyone can share? Thanks Steve ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Whoa...wkikpedia.
Tough. Then they deserve to fail. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:08:57 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Whoa...wkikpedia. Yeah.that's going to happen. Best next excuse to the dog ate my homework From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Whoa...wkikpedia. 'Fail classes because of it'? A) over-melodramatic B) tough shit. Best they learn to do real off-line lookups as well then. _ From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:17:10 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Whoa...wkikpedia. Yeah.bunch of high school and college kids are going to fail some classes because of it. It's a good cause, but probably not the best way to go about it. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/01/18/help-us-help-youend-piracy-not-l iberty/ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Whoa...wkikpedia. Anyone been there today? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Whoa...wkikpedia.
Again, tough. If their only avenue of research is Wikipedia, they deserve to fail. Not only is offline do-able, but there are also other online sources. Let alone doing primary source research themselves rather than going through an aggregator. -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill bem...@pittcountync.gov Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:07:04 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Whoa...wkikpedia. The world has changed. I don't think researching offline is as practical as it was when I was a kid. Back then, I had a set of encyclopedias. My kids certainly don't have that today, and encyclopedias are, frankly, antiquated. I know that my kids' teachers expect them to do research on the internet for their projects. It's kind of like how difficult it would be to research Windows Server problems without the internet these days. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Whoa...wkikpedia. Tough. Then they deserve to fail. From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:08:57 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Whoa...wkikpedia. Yeah...that's going to happen... Best next excuse to the dog ate my homework From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Whoa...wkikpedia. 'Fail classes because of it'? A) over-melodramatic B) tough shit. Best they learn to do real off-line lookups as well then. From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:17:10 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Whoa...wkikpedia. Yeah...bunch of high school and college kids are going to fail some classes because of it. It's a good cause, but probably not the best way to go about it. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/01/18/help-us-help-youend-piracy-n ot-liberty/ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Whoa...wkikpedia. Anyone been there today? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
Re: Whoa...wkikpedia.
I repeat - fuck 'em. They deserve all the misfortune that comes to them (the muppets, not wiki). --Original Message-- From: Angus Scott-Fleming To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Whoa...wkikpedia. Sent: Jan 19, 2012 21:41 On 19 Jan 2012 at 0:05, Free, Bob wrote: Take, for example, the Twitter account herpderpia (contains offensive language), which has been compiling those who have been crying and confused over the loss of Wikipedia. FWIW http://twitter.com/herpderpedia (not herpderpia) shows that there was some serious clewlessness going on there. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Whoa...wkikpedia.
'Fail classes because of it'? A) over-melodramatic B) tough shit. Best they learn to do real off-line lookups as well then. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 18:17:10 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Whoa...wkikpedia. Yeah.bunch of high school and college kids are going to fail some classes because of it. It's a good cause, but probably not the best way to go about it. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/01/18/help-us-help-youend-piracy-not-l iberty/ From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Whoa...wkikpedia. Anyone been there today? David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting
FWIW, as one of those consulting companies, we'd not be twice, more like the 200-225 range, absent any other 'weird' requirements. (I don't pitch for business on here. This is just commentary). G -- Gary K. Slinger Content Manager, Virtualization Services Practice Mainline Information Systems gary.slin...@mainline.com Office: 727-475-1947 (Tampa, FL) -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 23:52:58 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting Ok, that's not one of the overpriced metro areas. For a very experienced independent, you are looking at around $150/hr, based on a per day charge of a minimum of eight hours, plus TE. For someone attached to one of the larger consulting companies, probably twice that, plus some overhead for a PM. You can get a decent discount by allowing for offsite work. Why do you need someone onsite? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting Milwaukee, WI. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting The metro area of WHAT? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting The metro area is 1.5 Million people. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting Where? That can be a huge factor. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.commailto:sca...@gmail.com wrote: Not too familiar with consulting costs... What might a skilled Exchange Engineer charge per hour for an onsite implementation of Exchange 2010 w/Unified Messaging? Just looking for rough pricing to hand over to someone. I don't have a lot of details about the project yet... I'm quite certain it's a new install, not a migration. The business sounds very SMB, not too large. Or do most of you charge per project? Of course, you can contact me off-list if you wish. TIA, Sam Cayze Systems Administrator ROLLOUTS ONSITE * ON DEMAND 952.279.6218tel:952.279.6218...Direct Dial 612.386.3946tel:612.386.3946...Mobile www.Rollouts.comhttp://www.rollouts.com/ www.e-Technicians.nethttp://www.e-technicians.net/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachment(s) are intended only for the designated recipient(s). Rollouts Incorporated prohibits use, distribution or transmittal by or to an unintended recipient without Rollouts' express written approval. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this email and notify Rollouts. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
Re: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting
Heh. Yeah, we're not top five, but we're not usually considered small, either. G -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:04:22 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting Sorry - I was referring to Avanade, Accenture, Microsoft Consulting Services, etc. :-P Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 6:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting FWIW, as one of those consulting companies, we'd not be twice, more like the 200-225 range, absent any other 'weird' requirements. (I don't pitch for business on here. This is just commentary). G -- Gary K. Slinger Content Manager, Virtualization Services Practice Mainline Information Systems gary.slin...@mainline.commailto:gary.slin...@mainline.com Office: 727-475-1947 (Tampa, FL) From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 23:52:58 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting Ok, that's not one of the overpriced metro areas. For a very experienced independent, you are looking at around $150/hr, based on a per day charge of a minimum of eight hours, plus TE. For someone attached to one of the larger consulting companies, probably twice that, plus some overhead for a PM. You can get a decent discount by allowing for offsite work. Why do you need someone onsite? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting Milwaukee, WI. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting The metro area of WHAT? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting The metro area is 1.5 Million people. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Need rough pricing for Exchange Server Consulting Where? That can be a huge factor. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Sam Cayze sca...@gmail.commailto:sca...@gmail.com wrote: Not too familiar with consulting costs... What might a skilled Exchange Engineer charge per hour for an onsite implementation of Exchange 2010 w/Unified Messaging? Just looking for rough pricing to hand over to someone. I don't have a lot of details about the project yet... I'm quite certain it's a new install, not a migration. The business sounds very SMB, not too large. Or do most of you charge per project? Of course, you can contact me off-list if you wish. TIA, Sam Cayze Systems Administrator ROLLOUTS ONSITE * ON DEMAND 952.279.6218tel:952.279.6218...Direct Dial 612.386.3946tel:612.386.3946...Mobile www.Rollouts.comhttp://www.rollouts.com/ www.e-Technicians.nethttp://www.e-technicians.net/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachment(s) are intended only for the designated recipient(s). Rollouts Incorporated prohibits use, distribution or transmittal by or to an unintended recipient without Rollouts' express written approval. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this email and notify Rollouts. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
Re: OT: Gadgets
Airport Express (~$50) coupled to an iHome mini speaker (~$20). Done. Cheap, portable, reusable kit if you decide to upscale later on. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:51 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Just moved to a much bigger house and I am trying to revamp all my electronic kit. I have a lot of gym equipment in my garage, but I was fancying putting some sort of music-playing device into the garage that could connect up to my TeraStation and play a selection of music directly from there. Buying a stereo and burning a load of mp3s onto a CD/DVD seems s dated now...can anyone recommend any devices that might be able to achieve this for me? I've already got a streaming box linked to the TV that fires movies/music/pictures onto the TV which works great, but I doubt I could run a cable all the way from the streaming box to the garage (it is a much bigger house). Would I need a device to output the music in the garage as well as another streaming device? I've been Googling about (probably not very cleverly) and I've found plenty stuff that can stream music across to a stereo, but a) I don't have a stereo - I used to play all music through my TV, and b) kit like SqueezeBox seems fairly expensive. I'm not wanting to spend a great deal of money here, quality isn't that important, just need some music in the background while I pound the punchbags! All suggestions gratefully welcomed. TIA, JRR -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * *The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * *In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** **At Home yesterday. * *We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * *The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Print strangness
That is a Word / driver setting. File / Print / Printer Properties / Advanced / Document Options / Layout Options / Page Order = Front to Back (or Back to Front, as appropriate). On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote: Just got a call from a user. Prints a two page word document, 2nd page prints on top of first page. Os is Win7 enterprise, Word 2010 to a 2008r2 print server using the HP Universal print drive to a HP 424 and also HP Color 4700. All other users on same print server, printer and such are working normally. Any idea what setting on the workstation might cause that problem? ** ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: [OT] Rugged USB cable?
Alternate connectivity options? WUSB / WiFi / Bluetooth? Sounds like a square peg and round hole at the moment. G --Original Message-- From: Ben Scott To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [OT] Rugged USB cable? Sent: Nov 1, 2011 22:42 On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Benjamin Zachary li...@levelfive.us wrote: Measure equipment cabled to a laptop via USB. Laptop goes on a table. Measure equipment is moved around a piece of work being measured. Cable is dragged across floors, stepped on, yanked, abraded, pinched, kinked, etc. I have never seen one, what about covering it with something for network cabling, like those conduits or wiremold . typically made for cat5 or misc. cables but obviously would cover/protect a usb cord Conduit or Wiremold is rigid; this has to be flexible, as the measurement equipment is movable. I suppose FMC (Greenfield) might work, but it would have to be rather large diameter to accommodate the USB connectors, which would in turn make it rather cumbersome to manipulate. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today
Which could be entertaining, considering it's still EDT. -Original Message- From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:39:13 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today As they are in Florida I would assume EST John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office/Fax (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Michael White [mailto:mswhite...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today What time zone? On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM, dona...@sunbeltsoftware.com wrote: Attention all NTSysadmin users, We are making upgrades to the Lyris system that will take place at 4 PM today and may take up to 2 hours to complete. We appreciate your patience later today while we perform this maintenance, during which time you may not be able to send or receive posts from the Lyris server. Thank you! -- -- Michael S. White mswhite...@gmail.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today
Didn't change GMT. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:20:55 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today I am sure that will go well as our conversion to the metric system went in the 80's. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today Heh. Well, if you'd all just use a proper GMT offset (no, it's not bloody UTC), then everything would be fine :) From: John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 13:19:29 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today really_anal ESDST /really_anal John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office/Fax (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today anal EDT /anal -- Espi On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:39 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: As they are in Florida I would assume EST John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office/Fax (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: Michael White [mailto:mswhite...@gmail.commailto:mswhite...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today What time zone? On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:11 AM, dona...@sunbeltsoftware.commailto:dona...@sunbeltsoftware.com wrote: Attention all NTSysadmin users, We are making upgrades to the Lyris system that will take place at 4 PM today and may take up to 2 hours to complete. We appreciate your patience later today while we perform this maintenance, during which time you may not be able to send or receive posts from the Lyris server. Thank you! -- -- Michael S. White mswhite...@gmail.commailto:mswhite...@gmail.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination
Re: Scheduled Maintenance 4 PM Today
Yeah, but I'm English, and we and GMT have been around longer, so we'll go with that one :) (And - yeah, I know. I also know what TAI and UT1 are. But GMT is still the way to go!). On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: ... a proper GMT offset (no, it's not bloody UTC) ... GMT and UTC are not identical. (They originate from different authorities, and get different adjustments for extremely high precision time. It usually doesn't matter for practical purposes, but as long as we're being pedantic we might as well get it right.) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Macs and vunerabilities
Until the CEO says 'make this work'. It's not /your/ network. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 19:37:15 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Macs and vunerabilities I don't let non-corporate machines on my network without enforcing that they have a current version of a recognized brand of AV and that it's been updated within the past 5 days - I enforce that with the configuration of the of the SSL VPN appliance, which can query for that. It's almost certainly not foolproof, but it's the best that I can do, and if I had my way, I'd not let them on at all, except through an RDP session. Kurt On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 16:33, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: A lot of us already let home PCs connect to our corporate LANs via various methods. We aren't managing those systems yet they are running business apps and accessing business data. Is there much difference to allowing them inside the perimeter? If your network is sufficiently insulated, then I'd say no. YMMV, etc. With regards to standards, that's where the VDI and Citrix or RDS stuff comes in. These BYO devices become glorified thin clients. They shouldn't really do much off the host device. Least of all browse the internet. But that's all just my very humble opinion. Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment From: James Hill james.h...@coffeeclub.com.au Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:07:01 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Macs and vunerabilities The issue I see is that for years we have moved towards SOE/MOE’s and standardisation so that less staff could manage more devices. We aimed for consistency which greatly aided in adds, moves and changes as well as fault finding. Now we are saying that any device can be used and that is all ok as we will just wall off everything except for the required access to Citrix etc. This sounds great but it assumes that we won’t be supporting the clients device. We will just maintain the server environment. In reality, regardless of policy, this just won’t happen. We will have to support these devices of which we have very little control over. Central administration will largely go out the window. Some organisations might be able to say it is the users issue if there is something wrong with their device but that wouldn’t fly for any organisation I’ve worked for. Stranger still is standardising on a different OS (osx for example) to then deliver the required apps using Windows. Why pay for more expensive hardware when your licensing costs are the same if not more expensive? A bank here has done exactly this as they believe Mac’s will attract and help retain staff? In a time when many countries are struggling and unemployment is on the rise why are we allowing employees to call the shots? What’s wrong with this is the job and this is the tools you will use and we will pay you this much. No you can’t bring in your personal computer, your fridge, your microwave and yes you need to wear closed in shoes! From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2011 6:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Macs and vunerabilities It's all about the delivery of your corporate apps to any device, not necessarily Windows ones. Citrix have a big investment with the Receiver, which can deliver your corporate apps just about anywhere, but VMWare's AppBlast is another beast altogether - delivering any corporate application to a browser over an HTML5 stream. I'm assuming it must be leveraging some kind of virtual desktop on the back end, but the idea of being able to deliver these apps to vast amounts of different devices without even the need to install one piece of software such as the Receiver is quite novel. It all means that users can work in a familiar environment and still have their apps for work. It's not all about delivering a full Windows desktop - I assume a lot of them will just run individual apps from a Citrix Web Interface or the like and maintain their connection to their own desktop for familiarity. But there are a huge amount of different configurations that can be delivered in this way. There's also the whole scene of federated access and being able to log into all of your apps - whether on the Internet, at work, or local - from one place. Personally I'm looking forward to the BYO initiative taking off a bit - it certainly looks interesting. On 18 October 2011 05:12, James Hill james.h...@coffeeclub.com.au wrote: Let's come back in a year or two and see what they think of their decision then. I can't get my head around making a change like
Re: collage
Google image search most common passwords taglist. -Original Message- From: Shauna Hensala she...@msn.com Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:27:19 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: collage Several months ago someone posted a link to a collage of the most used passwords. The word 'password' was in a large font and 123456 slightly smaller. Surrounded by dozens of others in smaller type. I cannot find it in the archive and a google search turns up zillions of hits for a poster that is not what I'm looking for - anyone remember the collage - anyone have the link? Thanks Shauna Hensala ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: playing video on TV from external storage device
Playstation 3. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 9:23 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Looking for a few recommendations here. I have a load of episodes of children's TV (Fireman Sam and the like) stored on my external hard drive and also on my home NAS device. I'd like a quick and easy way to be able to play these on my TV. The solution I have at the moment is simply to connect my laptop to the TV and run the videos from the computer to the VGA output on the TV, but this is a) dangerous, as my seven cats regularly scuttle past the laptop and could bring it crashing to the floor, and b) far too technical a setup for my wife to put together for the kids herself when I am out of the house. Is there some sort of device I could purchase that could have a USB device plugged into it, and would then be able to deliver the content to my TV, or can you just get (for example) DVD players that accept USB drives or the like now? (I'm way out of touch with home tech, please forgive me). Or is there any other quick and dirty way I could deliver these videos so that it's easy for my other half (she is a complete technophobe)? All ideas and sharing of own configurations welcome, thanks! JR -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ** IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or, alternatively, you are a mindless cretin; either way, you should immediately kill yourself and destroy your computer (not necessarily in that order). Once you have taken this action, please contact us.. no, sorry, you can't use your computer, because you just destroyed it, and possibly also committed suicide afterwards, but I am starting to digress.. * * The originator of this email is not liable for the transmission of the information contained in this communication. Or are they? Either way it's a pretty dull legal query and frankly one I'm not going to dwell on. But should you have nothing better to do, please feel free to ruminate on it, and please pass on any concrete conclusions should you find them. However, if you pass them on via email, be sure to include a disclaimer regarding liability for transmission. * * In the event that the originator did not send this email to you, then please return it to us and attach a scanned-in picture of your mother's brother's wife wearing nothing but a kangaroo suit, and we will immediately refund you exactly half of what you paid for the can of Whiskas you bought when you went to Pets** ** At Home yesterday. * * We take no responsibility for non-receipt of this email because we are running Exchange 5.5 and everyone knows how glitchy that can be. In the event that you do get this message then please note that we take no responsibility for that either. Nor will we accept any liability, tacit or implied, for any damage you may or may not incur as a result of receiving, or not, as the case may be, from time to time, notwithstanding all liabilities implied or otherwise, ummm, hell, where was I...umm, no matter what happens, it is NOT, and NEVER WILL BE, OUR FAULT! * * The comments and opinions expressed herein are my own and NOT those of my employer, who, if he knew I was sending emails and surfing the seamier side of the Internet, would cut off my manhood and feed it to me for afternoon tea. * ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Reconfiguring an existing email on a Blackberry
Lose the damn signature image. If you don't have a BES or BIS, then he's using his Carrier BIS (probable) or desktop redir (laughable), and that's where the settings are. Has he given you access to that? If not, either do it himself or via carrier support is the way to go. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 11:59:41 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Reconfiguring an existing email on a Blackberry One of my users has a Blackberry through ATT which is configured to check his email through IMAP. However, that leads to email building up in his sent folder on the server (which we do not own or control and for which we pay by the MB stored, so I limit the email folder size.) I have tried to figure out how to reconfigure his email on the blackberry to use POP3 instead of IMAP, but I can't seem to get it to allow me to change it. I'm not sure which Blackberry he has, other than it's one of the newer ones with the touch-screen and the keyboard the slides out at the bottom of the phone. I *did* Google that specific question. I also tried to set up a new email account on his phone, but the phone won't let me as that email address is already configured on there. Should I just tell him to go to the ATT store and have them set it up from scratch or is there an easy way to do this? We do NOT have a BES/BIS server and no plans to get one at this time. Also, as previously mentioned, we do NOT run our own mail server. John-AldrichThread-Count ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: iPad PIECE OF CRAP!
So, your failure to adequately prepare for an installation is iPad's fault? Uh-huh... On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Jeff S. Gottlieb jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.comwrote: ** ** iPad ActiveSync issues are only during implementation, and or IF someone’s moving around large folders in Outlook. Avoid implementation… problems SOLVED. If not… Preparation H ** ** ** ** *From:* Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:35 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: iPad PIECE OF CRAP! ** ** There’s some sick people out there, you never know. ** ** *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:33 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: iPad PIECE OF CRAP! ** ** Who will want them if you pass them on? They've already been used! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: I’ll pass on the hemorrhoids, thanks (no pun intended). *From:* Jeff S. Gottlieb [mailto:jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 1:18 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: iPad PIECE OF CRAP! Still WIP […like Whack-a-mole], but we were able to see improvements the past 12-hours following, rebuilding of the forms-based authentication, SSL certificates, and Exchange virtual directory. Here is a great Microsoft article on EAS http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2563324 Ps. They could have skipped the rhetoric and added an oxymoronic, “Beta” like Google does …we SORT OF have something extremely reliable for the enterprise world! PPs. We were once known as the “IT guys” around here. Following this iPad bull-jive, we are now the BALD-HEADED GUYS!! ;--/ PPPs. Can’t wait for iPhone 5, and the demise of RIM. Why don’t we all just be preemptive here and develop a case of hemorrhoids beforehand!! *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 9:07 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: iPad PIECE OF CRAP! We had that on Exchange 2003. Not an iPad but their MACs. There are several technet articles on it regarding E2k3. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Guyer, Don don.gu...@fiserv.com wrote:** ** At my previous gig, we experienced that due to 1 iPhone, so this doesn’t surprise me. *Don Guyer* Windows Systems Engineer RIM Operations Engineering Distributed – A Team, Tier 2 Enterprise Technology Group *Fiserv* don.gu...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 1-800-523-7282%20x%201673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com [image: Description: Frog Signature] *From:* S Powell [mailto:powe...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:14 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: iPad PIECE OF CRAP! You got that from one iPad? Was it inside your network, or outside when generating those errors? We have 11 iOS devices in our office and have never had anything like that. Although you did send me scrambling off to look at the logs to see if I'd missed anything. let us know if you find out _why_ it happened. thx - Who'd you rather be, the Beatles or the Rolling Stones? On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 15:47, Jeff S. Gottlieb jeff.s.gottl...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to share something interesting… We purchased an iPad on the 15th. The boss wanted EAS and nFuse [CITRIX] running before his trip to China. When the iPad was running, the Exchange server got bombarded with Event ID: 3007, “Exchange mailbox Server response timeout : Server: [sssdc01.ssscorp.local] User: [boss...@ssscorp.com].…” every 2-3 minutes.* *** Every Outlook user was experiencing either timing out when emails arrived, higher-than-usual CPU usage, and or I/O bytes off the charts. We’ve been up troubleshooting since 2AM this morning… shut off the iPad and voila! Eeh-gahds!!! –J ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
Yeah, that :) -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 00:26:37 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And ADSL, and async cable modem plans. And FIOS plans, etc… Heck, the entire “consuming” side of the web is based on the user supplying a few characters of a URL. and then receiving significantly more content in return. After than it’s largely mouse clicks, or it’s tablet equivalent. -sc From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares You're wrong. I've been at this long enough that I recall split baud rates of 1200/75, because we consume so much more than we create. That's reflected in modern cable Download/Upload splits. YOU may have an 'I need to create' use case, but there are many, many folks that the consumption side is more relevant. Data creation is why computers are so useful? Laughable. From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:54:47 -0700 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Not an Apple hater. I have passed on Android tablets as well. I only own an Android phone because work required it, and am ready to abandon that as well. I always presume the need for data creation - it's why computers are so useful, and if you have the ability to create data, you automatically have the ability to consume it. The converse isn't true. On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 21:09, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Presumes the need for data creation and skips over all the consumption use cases. Kurt's an apple hater. His opinon is taintendly irrelevant. From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:05:44 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares And to me. The backspace key is my friend! From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2011 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. To you. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end
Re: full system backup
Ask your project manager. --Original Message-- From: Tigran K To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: full system backup Sent: Aug 22, 2011 22:37 Need help finding a full system/bare metal backup system for a small auto mechanic shop. They have 2 computers that are mission critical. Any suggestions for full backup that will get them up an running if hardware or software fails? Some level of data loss is acceptable. They just want to make sure they can buy another system and be up and running in a day. I wanted to get a feel of what others use. Thanks --Tigran ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares
A) that's one price point. There are others substantially lower. B) you name two apps. I've used an iPad a dozen times today - and done zero emails and one 10 second spurt of games. I've browsed the web, checked some contracts, monitored hurricane weather, pulled up a tech article... The list goes on. While I can do all of the above on the PC's in my office, it wasn't convenient to do so. -Original Message- From: Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 04:30:22 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares Well? I can't seem to justify $700 for en email reader and a game player for my kid. If somebody gave me one, I would use it. Anecdotally speaking, I see iPad more in kids hands then I do the adults. Thanks, Mathew From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares This point seems to be lost on many. There are many services to be consumed in this day and age that do not require a full computer, and for which a complete PC, or even laptop, actually can be a disadvantage. There's room for multiple devices in the ecosystem. Has been for some time. -sc From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Apple newbie - iPad remote access to server shares If you insist on using a tablet exactly as a PC (or even a laptop), then you'll be sorely disappointed. Most people who adopt them (tablets) use the new tool differently from the old tool. It's not like most people with laptops in a corporate environment are actually using a reasonable percentage of its inherent advantages. Additionally, many people are using their smart phones which are even more inconvenient than tablets, to accomplish some of the work they used to perform on PCs. Tablets give them a *richer* experience, from this standpoint, hence the growing adoption rate. I'm pretty sure that is we substitute PC for tablet and go back 16-20 years, there'd be no distinguishing the arguments being used. Yet, here we are. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: The benefits and costs of distributing books electronically is not tied to the use of tablets. You can use a PC to read a PDF or other digital media just as well as on a tablet, and do much more besides, given the cost differential - once you take into account the peripherals needed to make the tablet as useful as a more traditional laptop or PC. The loss of a keyboard, IMHO, outweighs all of the supposed advantages. Kurt On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You're still mostly wooshing here. Never did I say I bought into these concepts, but this is how it often appears to the uninitiated into the arcane art of IT. I, of course, know that mainframes didn't die, but most of the work of the data processing department was subsumed in many organizations by business units closer to the data, and this was accelerated by the adoption of the PC and PC networks. And have you measured that against the cost of textbooks? I know a lot of administrators are crunching these numbers right now... On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 13:21, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: To put it another way, the data processing group got put out to pasture of days gone by was blindsided by the PC revolution. Not really - they just morphed into the IT staff of today - server administrators. And, mainframes haven't disappeared - again, it's the minis that got squeezed. IBM still makes a buncha money on mainframes. The current generation of tablets are probably the most compelling piece of technology since then. Perhaps. I've yet to be convinced. Teachers and administrators are very interested in tablets because they believe they offer so much more capability for viewing and distributing content! The SJRDF is strong, 'tis true. I think the only advantage they show is weight, and a multi-touch screen. For viewing content, a larger screen gives better resolution, and for real distribution you still need the servers on the back end. The capabilities are still lacking, and the price is still too high. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here:
Re: Very OT quick favour to ask any Facebook users
Don't encourage the spammer. -Original Message- From: Shauna Hensala she...@msn.com Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:50:35 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Very OT quick favour to ask any Facebook users done Shauna Hensala Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:39:19 +0100 Subject: Very OT quick favour to ask any Facebook users From: loonyto...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Hi Folks, My wife has been making jewellery for a little while now, and has just recently started selling it. I have setup a FaceBook Business page for her just now, will be doing a full website once she has more stock to sell. Would appreciate it if some of you could pop on and like it Drive the like count up a bit and make it stand out a bit more. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Handmade-Jewellery-by-Louise/257817420896544 Is the link. Cheers and thanks to all you who did. Graeme -- Good news everyone, you have just received and e-mail from me! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
With one special character, 15 years. Without it, 4 days. Interesting. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:19:59 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords I got one year. From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords Have your users go here: http://www.howsecureismypassword.net/ and enter their password to see how long it would take to crack. A fun little exercise. Red rose https://gfx6.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr04/ltr/emo/ids_emoticon_rose.gif Shauna Hensala _ From: webs...@carlwebster.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:43:08 + I changed my bed linens at the beginning of each semester whether they needed changing or not. :-) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords nice. Reminds me of an old roommate, I clean the shower every six months whether it needs it or not. Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint _ On Aug 11, 2011 7:42 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I change my passwords religiously every 7 years. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords Crap.I now have to change my password again. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords If the in-house team ever got a round to it both could be kept happy but using something like Horses like 2 fly, like bugs like to be stepped on! Complex and easy to remember. How long would that take for a brute force attack or a dictionary attack to get the password? FYI that is NOT one of my passwords! Jon On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Because the security team and or auditor are simply following a check list. Complex passwords required - check. My job is done. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords
It wasn't one of my current 'real' passwords. I'm not putting one of those in on a site I don't know. -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:46:08 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords Buwhahahah 124 thousand years. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords With one special character, 15 years. Without it, 4 days. Interesting. From: Martin Blackstone mblackst...@gmail.commailto:mblackst...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:19:59 -0700 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords I got one year. From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com]mailto:[mailto:she...@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords Have your users go here: http://www.howsecureismypassword.net/ and enter their password to see how long it would take to crack. A fun little exercise. [https://gfx6.hotmail.com/mail/w4/pr04/ltr/emo/ids_emoticon_rose.gif]Shauna Hensala From: webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:43:08 + I changed my bed linens at the beginning of each semester whether they needed changing or not. :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords nice. Reminds me of an old roommate, I clean the shower every six months whether it needs it or not. Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint On Aug 11, 2011 7:42 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: I change my passwords religiously every 7 years. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu]mailto:[mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Subject: RE: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords Crap...I now have to change my password again... From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Subject: Re: Almost, but not quite OT: Passwords If the in-house team ever got a round to it both could be kept happy but using something like Horses like 2 fly, like bugs like to be stepped on! Complex and easy to remember. How long would that take for a brute force attack or a dictionary attack to get the password? FYI that is NOT one of my passwords! Jon On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.commailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Because the security team and or auditor are simply following a check list. Complex passwords required - check. My job is done. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
Re: Dell BMC
You're not really in a position to criticise. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the management workstation to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH! -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to connect. Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC. It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell BMC Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the server so I can get them to help me set it up. I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for configure remote access came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out. If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess I'll give Dell a call eventually. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Dell BMC
I'm not exactly a dummy though. Can we get a vote on that? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Michael, et al: Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. I know Dell has extended the commands for BMC. All I really want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC John, did you google ipmi windows like I suggested yesterday? The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good English, even. And did I mention they were free? There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely). And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is free too. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell BMC You're not really in a position to criticise. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the management workstation to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH! -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to connect. Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC. It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell BMC Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front of the server so I can get them to help me set it up. I got instructions from my sales rep's Storage Specialist on how to set it up, and I thought I'd set it up right. I hit CTL+E when the prompt for configure remote access came up and gave it a static IP and enabled IPMI over LAN. Still can't telnet to that IP address. It responds to a PING on that IP address, but no telnet/web connection allowed. Just times out. If anyone has any experience with this, can you chime in? If not, I guess I'll give Dell a call eventually. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint
Re: Dell BMC
I suppose the question is whether he'll get the hint or I'll get bored first... :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 08:55:41 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Dell BMC Gary, While I normally respect and appreciate your contributions here, this is realy getting old. Can't we move beyond harping on every single post the guy makes? Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com 08/03/11 8:51 AM I'm not exactly a dummy though. Can we get a vote on that? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:57:26 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Michael, et al: Yes, I realize I have a HUGE knowledge gap (big enough to drive at least one semi through.) I'm not exactly a dummy though. Still this stuff is really confusing to me. Yes, I read through the MSDN article. Didn't make a lot of sense to me. I know Dell has extended the commands for BMC. All I really want is the ability to power-cycle the server remotely, which, according to the Dell documentation, I should be able to do. Much more than that I can't say as the documentation, to me, is very confusing. In one place it suggests you should be able to use Hyperterminal to access the BMC (although it states something about the basic/free Hyperterminal having some limitations.) In another place it talks about using special OpenManage software to access it. Really confusing for me. Clearly Hyperterminal isn't working, or I still need to do some more to configure the server (I think I saw someplace about making changes in the BIOS settings) or both. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC John, did you google ipmi windows like I suggested yesterday? The first hit is an article that discusses the difference between BMC and IPMI and what the capabilities of each are. The next several hits provide links to tools for properly using BMC and IPMI - free ones, even. In good English, even. And did I mention they were free? There is a server component (drivers plus WMI interfaces for Windows, plus many of the tools can be run locally). There is a client component (the various tools, especially IPMIview which is run remotely). And did I mention they were free? Oh, and all the documentation I mention is free too. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell BMC You're not really in a position to criticise. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:28:46 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell BMC Thanks. I'm beginning to think you may be right about having to use the IPMI tool, because of some info I found when I actually *found* the BMC software to download. Unfortunately it's all written in such a way that it's hard to make heads or tails of it. I'm not even sure, from what I read in the instructions, that the software is supposed to be installed on the workstation. The way Dell wrote the software it sounds like you're supposed to install the software on the *server!* *sigh* That wouldn't be much help, so I'm pretty sure you're supposed to install it on the management workstation to control the server. Gotta love folks who write instructions that look like they got translated into Spanish, then into Chinese, then to Greek then Russian before getting translated BACK to English! SHEESH! -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell BMC As far as I know, you can't telnet into it--you have to use the IPMI tool to connect. Although I think that uses the DRAC, not the BMC. It works well. I just started using it here a month or two ago on a couple of my servers. I can remotely power them up or down with the tool. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 5:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell BMC Anyone have any experience with Dell's Baseboard Management Controller? I'm getting mixed information from Dell. I can't seem to get ahold of anyone in Tech Support via email. I may have to call them when I'm in front
Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth recently. G --Original Message-- From: The VMware Team To: Gary Slinger ReplyTo: The VMware Team Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40 View this email on mobile devices | View the online version VMware vSphere 5 Licensing Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner, On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product. As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes to the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible. These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware. Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers, so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that address the most recurring areas of your feedback. • We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise Plus. This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that were based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing model. Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new vSphere 5 vRAM enti ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
I like how their competition will have been spooling up marketing campaigns to capitalize on this, and are now going 'oh, crap... :) -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:02 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update Yep, I need to review it this week... I like how all these companies can spin We just through up a dumb idea and now have to backtrack to we listened to our customers and partners, and decided to refine a few things... * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth recently. G --Original Message-- From: The VMware Team To: Gary Slinger ReplyTo: The VMware Team Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40 View this email on mobile devices | View the online version VMware vSphere 5 Licensing Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner, On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product. As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes to the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible. These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware. Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers, so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that address the most recurring areas of your feedback. • We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise Plus. This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that were based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing model. Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new vSphere 5 vRAM enti ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update
Your tin foil is in the corner, sir. -Original Message- From: Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:36:13 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update I find it a little hard to believe that VMWare was able to react this quickly to customer outcry. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but the revised licensing seems a lot like a Plan B they had waiting just in case customers responded poorly to the original vRAM entitlements that were announced with vSphere 5. With that said, I'm glad the changes were made as it will make our licensing procurement a little easier on the checkbook. - Sean On Aug 3, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Jonathan ncm...@gmail.com wrote: Hahaha, true! Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings. On Aug 3, 2011 6:01 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I like how their competition will have been spooling up marketing campaigns to capitalize on this, and are now going 'oh, crap... :) -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:58:02 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Fw: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update Yep, I need to review it this week... I like how all these companies can spin We just through up a dumb idea and now have to backtrack to we listened to our customers and partners, and decided to refine a few things... * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Now that it's public, this may be of interest, given the gnashing of teeth recently. G --Original Message-- From: The VMware Team To: Gary Slinger ReplyTo: The VMware Team Subject: VMware vSphere 5 Licensing and Pricing Update Sent: Aug 3, 2011 17:40 View this email on mobile devices | View the online version VMware vSphere 5 Licensing Pricing Update Dear VMware Partner, On July 12, 2011, VMware announced our new Cloud Infrastructure Suite. The launch featured vSphere 5, the newest version of our flagship product. As many of you know, as part of this announcement, we introduced changes to the vSphere licensing model in order to align costs with the benefits of virtualization rather than with the physical attributes of individual servers. While our goal was to provide a licensing model based on consumption and value rather than physical components and capacity, we strived to make the new model as non-disruptive as possible. These changes generated much debate in the blogosphere, in conversations with our partners and customers, and across VMware communities. Some of the discussion had to do with confusion around the changes. We have been watching the blog commentaries carefully, and we have been listening to the partner and customer conversations very intently. A great deal of feedback was provided that examined the impact of the new licensing model on every possible use case and scenario, and equally importantly, reflected our partners’ and customers’ intense passion for VMware. Our success depends on the active involvement of our channel partners. We are a company built on partner and customer goodwill, and we’ve taken your feedback in earnest. Our primary objective is to do right by our customers, so we are announcing three changes to the vSphere 5 licensing model that address the most recurring areas of your feedback. • We’ve increased vRAM entitlements for all vSphere editions, including the doubling of the entitlements for vSphere Enterprise and Enterprise Plus. This change addresses concerns about future-looking business cases that were based on future hardware capabilities and the previous vSphere licensing model. Below is a comparison of the previously announced and the new vSphere 5 vRAM enti ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Error message in logs
Stop whining. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:15 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Thank you, Webster. IF I HAD THE MONEY, I WOULD! TRUST me! Due to circumstances beyond my control, I routinely have more month than money, speaking strictly from a personal standpoint, so thus have no way to fund training!!! My employer does not have the funds for training either, so that's out as well. Once I have this crisis resolved I will try and take time to read the aforementioned document on GPOs. -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Sometimes YOU have to invest YOUR own money in YOUR own training. Pays off in the LONG term. Just my $0.02US worth of advice. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Subject: RE: Error message in logs Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of password policy. I didn't realize those were GPOs. (Yes, I realize I'm woefully undereducated, but I have neither the time nor the money to do anything about it at this point, so let's skip that whole diatribe, shall we???) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Training (was RE: Error message in logs)
Boo-fscking-hoo. Poor, poor pitiful you. Clearly, you're the only person on this list with any kinda drama in their lives. How utterly bloody fortunate that you can use this as your personal how to do the job I'm supposed to know how to do site, and even get some therapy thrown in for free. You're beyond pathetic. On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:26 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: RANT Guys, I DO understand where you're coming from. Really. But do you not recall my diatribe last week about not having any money to pay for training? I wasn't speaking JUST about my employer, I was speaking about myself too. I really don't have the money for training. I am living paycheck to paycheck and STILL coming up short every month, so I really don't want to hear about pay for training yourself! And trust me, I'm not living high on the hog. There's no champagne and caviar or expensive cars, etc. If you really want me to get training, give me the money and I'll gladly go get training. Really, just tell me where to find the money and I'll do it. Thanks! /RANT -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs +10,000,000 I think the last time I had an employer pay for my training was in, uh, 1995 or so? -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Error message in logs Sometimes YOU have to invest YOUR own money in YOUR own training. Pays off in the LONG term. Just my $0.02US worth of advice. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Subject: RE: Error message in logs Ok, I take it back. There are some GPOs, but they are in the nature of password policy. I didn't realize those were GPOs. (Yes, I realize I'm woefully undereducated, but I have neither the time nor the money to do anything about it at this point, so let's skip that whole diatribe, shall we???) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Lab Resources and other educational things
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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Lab Resources and other educational things
Just confirming what I believe to be the case... Technet is a non-free
resource, correct? If so, that's, unfortunately, something I, personally,
can't afford at this time. If there's a way to get Technet for free, I'd
certainly love to hear about it!
From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com]
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Lab Resources and other educational things
Good start.
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From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Lab Resources and other educational things
Let's start a new thread.
Lab Resources and test environments.
Microsoft has some nice stuff at their virtual labs. This is all free.
It's not in depth but can often provide a nice overview 'this is how it
looks like' environment before doing something if you have no resources.
You can do them several times. I generally download the pdf lab and do the
lab once. http://www.microsoft.com/events/vlabs/default.mspx
I have an older HP Media Center Pavilion system with 8GB ram at home. I
run WIndows 2008r2 with HyperV on it with the base system being a DC. I can
get
4 to 5 very slow guests up on it but frankly don't care about the speed. I
have 3 320GB drives I run guests on.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/hyperv-faq.aspx
NOTE: You can download time limited iso's from Microsoft. The downside is
you have to rebuild your environment every 120 days.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/trial-software.aspx
Get good at scripting setups for your environment and this is less painful
then it could be. (user account creation/password, etc) Currently I blew up
my test lab and it's getting rebuilt.
If I need to expand my guests, I run Virtual Box on my own system which I
game with. It's a few years old but can get 2-3 guests up if I don't task
them much. http://www.virtualbox.org/
Your own domain name. They are cheap. It's useful to have something that
is 'yours'. Nothing teaches you like getting something real to interact on
the Internet.
Steven Peck
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Re: PMI PMP Certification
I'm going to go and get some popcorn... How do you think that will play out when it's one PM, five concurrent dev teams, a QA team and production implementation and operations folks? (And that's before I take 'PM' out of the 'just for IT' space). -Original Message- From: Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:44:24 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: PMI PMP Certification I agree my sample size is not sufficient that's why I'm asking what does a project manager do? Here's an example. Project is running late and the CIO comes in the room and says get this thing done. He's not talking to the project manager because no matter what the project manager does if he's not skilled in the particular software he can't get it done. So really the guy getting the job done is the skilled worker. The one that has the technical knowledge. I'm suggesting the system is broken. In current business environment it appears as the technical person is working for the project manager. I'm saying it should be the other way around. The project manager should be working for the technical guy. --Tigran On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: True, but my real point was that just because you may appear to be surrounded by lots of ineffective *insert job specification here*, it doesn't mean that your sample size was sufficient to judge the validity of the entire discipline. To be honest, I've even managed to meet a few good lawyers. (For the record, I'm aware of more lousy or ineffective IT professionals than stellar ones...) * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Isn’t that kind of like saying “you need smarter users”? If only I could pick and choose…….. ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2011 4:18 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: PMI PMP Certification ** ** You need to be working with better project and program managers. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing I see project managers do is schedule meetings, take notes that nobody will see and get in the way of good technical discussions.*** * ** ** Can somebody tell me why they need a cert program to use outlook? --Tigran On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: Know the input and outputs for each process and the 30ish formulas. The exam is not easy. If you have not applied for the test, you better get on it. If you are lucky to get audited, I do not think you will be able to get it in by the 31 st. You also have to document 4500 hours of project management experience. http://www.rmcproject.com/about/pmp-examination-changes.aspx Also, get Rita’s study guides. Worth it. http://www.rmcproject.com/index.aspx Jacob *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2011 11:14 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: PMI PMP Certification I was wondering if there were any certified PMPs out there that could give me pointers on the exam. I had planned on taking it in around two months, but I just caught wind of the fact PMI is changing it on August 31. So now I’m cramming to see if I can get it done before the change. I took two project management courses in grad school pretty recently, and am currently reading a couple of PMP study guides. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us ** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~
Re: PMI PMP Certification
You have no idea what you're talking about. PM, QA and imp team are all at corp HQ. Let's say it's in Houston. Dev's are outsourced. Tata, whatever. Pick one. They're in Mumbai. You really think that team is going to work for a lead 'developer? A dev is still a dev. I can see a limited exception for somewhere like Microsoft. Suggesting as a baseline that the PM work for the dev is moronic, even in the tiny little one dev one PM example you give. Scale it out - suppose the PM has 30 projects, and ten of them aren't IT? (Building move, HVAC replace, conference spool up, etc.). Suppose this isn't IT? One PM, and pickhowevermany carpenters, bricklayers, plumbers, etc. The PM works for the 'business' (the GC or owner's rep, e.g. this case). PMI isn't the be all and end all, but it's scaleable generic project management. I'm neither a PM nor a Dev, by the way. They both work for me. -Original Message- From: Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:51:26 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: PMI PMP Certification Easy 1 Lead Dev --T On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: ** I'm going to go and get some popcorn... How do you think that will play out when it's one PM, five concurrent dev teams, a QA team and production implementation and operations folks? (And that's before I take 'PM' out of the 'just for IT' space). -- *From: * Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:44:24 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: PMI PMP Certification I agree my sample size is not sufficient that's why I'm asking what does a project manager do? Here's an example. Project is running late and the CIO comes in the room and says get this thing done. He's not talking to the project manager because no matter what the project manager does if he's not skilled in the particular software he can't get it done. So really the guy getting the job done is the skilled worker. The one that has the technical knowledge. I'm suggesting the system is broken. In current business environment it appears as the technical person is working for the project manager. I'm saying it should be the other way around. The project manager should be working for the technical guy. --Tigran On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: True, but my real point was that just because you may appear to be surrounded by lots of ineffective *insert job specification here*, it doesn't mean that your sample size was sufficient to judge the validity of the entire discipline. To be honest, I've even managed to meet a few good lawyers. (For the record, I'm aware of more lousy or ineffective IT professionals than stellar ones...) * * *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Isn’t that kind of like saying “you need smarter users”? If only I could pick and choose…….. ** ** *John W. Cook* *System Administrator* *Partnership For Strong Families* *5950 NW 1st Place* *Gainesville, Fl 32607* *Office (352) 244-1610* *Cell (352) 215-6944* *MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP**4, VTSP4* ** ** *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, August 01, 2011 4:18 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: PMI PMP Certification ** ** You need to be working with better project and program managers. *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…* On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing I see project managers do is schedule meetings, take notes that nobody will see and get in the way of good technical discussions.** ** ** ** Can somebody tell me why they need a cert program to use outlook? --Tigran On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: Know the input and outputs for each process and the 30ish formulas. The exam is not easy. If you have not applied for the test, you better get on it. If you are lucky to get audited, I do not think you will be able to get it in by the 31 st. You also have to document 4500 hours of project management experience. http://www.rmcproject.com/about/pmp-examination-changes.aspx Also, get Rita’s study guides. Worth it. http://www.rmcproject.com/index.aspx Jacob *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] *Sent:* Monday
Re: PMI PMP Certification
This I don't disagree with. Small project PM is easy - a whiteboard (can be electronic), with who does what by when listed. Done. A $17mill IT revamp from the ground-up for a $5bn company? There might be a PM or two involved... -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 00:00:38 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: PMI PMP Certification In small projects, the PM can be a bit superfluous. As budgets tend to be small, scope is limited etc, a senior tech could run the project. On large projects, scope, budgets, scheduling, deliverable management, document control etc. all need to be handled. Not to mention endless amounts of dashboard reporting. Tech guys like to work on technology. However that doesn't get requirements/scope documentation done. It doesn't get business cases written. Tech guys generally don't like producing Gantt charts etc. As someone mentioned previously, most PMs are useless. They think that a PM can manage any type of project, which I disagree with. Personally I feel that many PMs couldn't make it in a more technical career, so they just fell into PM land. But, I likewise feel that many techs are underwhelming too :) Lastly, if no one reads the minutes, then something's wrong. On large projects, you should always be reading the minutes of each meeting, especially if you are a senior tech. Cheers Ken From: Tigran K [mailto:tigr...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 2 August 2011 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PMI PMP Certification Easy 1 Lead Dev --T On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.commailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to go and get some popcorn... How do you think that will play out when it's one PM, five concurrent dev teams, a QA team and production implementation and operations folks? (And that's before I take 'PM' out of the 'just for IT' space). From: Tigran K tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:44:24 -0700 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: PMI PMP Certification I agree my sample size is not sufficient that's why I'm asking what does a project manager do? Here's an example. Project is running late and the CIO comes in the room and says get this thing done. He's not talking to the project manager because no matter what the project manager does if he's not skilled in the particular software he can't get it done. So really the guy getting the job done is the skilled worker. The one that has the technical knowledge. I'm suggesting the system is broken. In current business environment it appears as the technical person is working for the project manager. I'm saying it should be the other way around. The project manager should be working for the technical guy. --Tigran On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: True, but my real point was that just because you may appear to be surrounded by lots of ineffective insert job specification here, it doesn't mean that your sample size was sufficient to judge the validity of the entire discipline. To be honest, I've even managed to meet a few good lawyers. (For the record, I'm aware of more lousy or ineffective IT professionals than stellar ones...) ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:32 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Isn't that kind of like saying you need smarter users? If only I could pick and choose John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610tel:%28352%29%20244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944tel:%28352%29%20215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 4:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PMI PMP Certification You need to be working with better project and program managers. ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.commailto:tigr...@gmail.com wrote: The only thing I see project managers do is schedule meetings, take notes that nobody will see and get in the way of good technical discussions. Can somebody tell me why they need a cert program to use outlook? --Tigran On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:52 PM, Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.commailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com wrote: Know the input and outputs for each process
Re: PMI PMP Certification
Usually resorting to personal attacks means you have run out of arguments. It's a form of fallacy., no, it's a lack of tolerance for stupidity. The example I gave was simplified for your benefit.. Case in point. You posted a moronic example without clarification. Therefore, I draw a fair and reasonable conclusion that you're a moron. They both work for you then you are the problem. - really? I'm a line of business manager now. You're wrong. Again. My argument is in IT and more specifically with PM rank and pay. I'm sure a PM in building move doesn't command same salary as IT PM. - in a pure IT company? Likely so. In industry? IT's just another project if you're doing it right. So you're wrong. Again. Noticing a trend yet? You can't get out of your shell and see how my method - I've got more than 20 years experience with large and small, good and bad. I've seen plenty of methods. Usually from highly qualified folks that actually HAVE methods, not some random internet dude that claims his method. The PM is just a middle man. Cut him out. - you're a dev, aren't you? Guess what? The world doesn't revolve around you. This statement from you, above all others, shows me your level of business incompetence. (Stick around, next reply I'll actually get personal). On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com wrote: Usually resorting to personal attacks means you have run out of arguments. It's a form of fallacy. The example I gave was simplified for your benefit. The example is based on multi-million project for a 3bl company. The model you layout is exactly the problem. Contract dev from anywhere who doesn't have vested interest in the project or any oversight can be the single deciding factor for the project. No matter how good a PM is they can't tell if the project is going down the right path when it comes to development because they just don't understand. A Dev can tell a PM that some thing is impossible. The PM won't know how to question that Dev to see if it really is impossible or not. With my model a Dev Lead would be able to see problems before they come up and direct the project. And if you have a Tech Lead who knows how to do that. Somebody that doesn't code but directs instead then you don't really need a PM. My argument is in IT and more specifically with PM rank and pay. I'm sure a PM in building move doesn't command same salary as IT PM. They both work for you then you are the problem. You can't get out of your shell and see how my method would work and be much more beneficial. In your world anything a PM wants to do he has to ask the technical workers and then act. The PM is just a middle man. Cut him out. This happens with countless projects. PM schedules a meeting, gets everybody in a room to discuss the matter at hand. When all is said and done the techi goes back to his desk spends 30 minutes fixing a problem that they just spend talking about for 1 hour. By the way what I'm suggesting isn't out of this world. It's being used at many successful companies, for example Facebook. --T On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.comwrote: ** You have no idea what you're talking about. PM, QA and imp team are all at corp HQ. Let's say it's in Houston. Dev's are outsourced. Tata, whatever. Pick one. They're in Mumbai. You really think that team is going to work for a lead 'developer? A dev is still a dev. I can see a limited exception for somewhere like Microsoft. Suggesting as a baseline that the PM work for the dev is moronic, even in the tiny little one dev one PM example you give. Scale it out - suppose the PM has 30 projects, and ten of them aren't IT? (Building move, HVAC replace, conference spool up, etc.). Suppose this isn't IT? One PM, and pickhowevermany carpenters, bricklayers, plumbers, etc. The PM works for the 'business' (the GC or owner's rep, e.g. this case). PMI isn't the be all and end all, but it's scaleable generic project management. I'm neither a PM nor a Dev, by the way. They both work for me. -- *From: * Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:51:26 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: PMI PMP Certification Easy 1 Lead Dev --T On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.comwrote: ** I'm going to go and get some popcorn... How do you think that will play out when it's one PM, five concurrent dev teams, a QA team and production implementation and operations folks? (And that's before I take 'PM' out of the 'just for IT' space). -- *From: * Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:44:24 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin
Re: PMI PMP Certification
That's funny, because I was thinking of saying the same thing to you. My bona fides are all over the net. WTF are you? I don't notice a denial that you're a dev. Are you? What, one, two years in? -Original Message- From: Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 20:00:56 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: PMI PMP Certification Let me know when you grow up. --T On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Usually resorting to personal attacks means you have run out of arguments. It's a form of fallacy., no, it's a lack of tolerance for stupidity. The example I gave was simplified for your benefit.. Case in point. You posted a moronic example without clarification. Therefore, I draw a fair and reasonable conclusion that you're a moron. They both work for you then you are the problem. - really? I'm a line of business manager now. You're wrong. Again. My argument is in IT and more specifically with PM rank and pay. I'm sure a PM in building move doesn't command same salary as IT PM. - in a pure IT company? Likely so. In industry? IT's just another project if you're doing it right. So you're wrong. Again. Noticing a trend yet? You can't get out of your shell and see how my method - I've got more than 20 years experience with large and small, good and bad. I've seen plenty of methods. Usually from highly qualified folks that actually HAVE methods, not some random internet dude that claims his method. The PM is just a middle man. Cut him out. - you're a dev, aren't you? Guess what? The world doesn't revolve around you. This statement from you, above all others, shows me your level of business incompetence. (Stick around, next reply I'll actually get personal). On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com wrote: Usually resorting to personal attacks means you have run out of arguments. It's a form of fallacy. The example I gave was simplified for your benefit. The example is based on multi-million project for a 3bl company. The model you layout is exactly the problem. Contract dev from anywhere who doesn't have vested interest in the project or any oversight can be the single deciding factor for the project. No matter how good a PM is they can't tell if the project is going down the right path when it comes to development because they just don't understand. A Dev can tell a PM that some thing is impossible. The PM won't know how to question that Dev to see if it really is impossible or not. With my model a Dev Lead would be able to see problems before they come up and direct the project. And if you have a Tech Lead who knows how to do that. Somebody that doesn't code but directs instead then you don't really need a PM. My argument is in IT and more specifically with PM rank and pay. I'm sure a PM in building move doesn't command same salary as IT PM. They both work for you then you are the problem. You can't get out of your shell and see how my method would work and be much more beneficial. In your world anything a PM wants to do he has to ask the technical workers and then act. The PM is just a middle man. Cut him out. This happens with countless projects. PM schedules a meeting, gets everybody in a room to discuss the matter at hand. When all is said and done the techi goes back to his desk spends 30 minutes fixing a problem that they just spend talking about for 1 hour. By the way what I'm suggesting isn't out of this world. It's being used at many successful companies, for example Facebook. --T On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.comwrote: ** You have no idea what you're talking about. PM, QA and imp team are all at corp HQ. Let's say it's in Houston. Dev's are outsourced. Tata, whatever. Pick one. They're in Mumbai. You really think that team is going to work for a lead 'developer? A dev is still a dev. I can see a limited exception for somewhere like Microsoft. Suggesting as a baseline that the PM work for the dev is moronic, even in the tiny little one dev one PM example you give. Scale it out - suppose the PM has 30 projects, and ten of them aren't IT? (Building move, HVAC replace, conference spool up, etc.). Suppose this isn't IT? One PM, and pickhowevermany carpenters, bricklayers, plumbers, etc. The PM works for the 'business' (the GC or owner's rep, e.g. this case). PMI isn't the be all and end all, but it's scaleable generic project management. I'm neither a PM nor a Dev, by the way. They both work for me. -- *From: * Tigran K tigr...@gmail.com *Date: *Mon, 1 Aug 2011 16:51:26 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: PMI PMP
Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot
You prove your own point. He's not a 'professional' anything. -Original Message- From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:36:44 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot I would submit that you should, as an IT professional have an idea of costs because you may be asked by management to provide that information for budgetary planning... Or you could submit a blind post here and hope someone does your research for you...again. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:21, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Honestly, I have not looked at the cost of a new desktop system lately as I know that management is not going to approve the purchase of one. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot What was supposed to be shocking exactly? That you have no idea about hardware costs, or that you think I wouldn't have a spare $2500? - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:33, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Actually, I have no idea what a new, fully-loaded 64-bit system will cost. I haven't actually priced one. I was just making up a number for shock value. :D From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Same here. But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our work. - WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: $2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad core with 8GB of RAM On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and software? I mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with Office 2010 and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a 3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the economy is going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine any time soon. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those things you've listed tax it's resources to the point that you can't do your job appropriately. But then, given your posts regarding this problem today I doubt you'll understand anything I have to say either. But I feel bad for Jonathan whose head seems to be swelling. He's been walking around paraphrasing Tombstone of all things... - WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I *AM* running multiple apps at once. Microsoft LookOut!...err... Outlook is a bit of a resource hog. My AS/400 terminal client is running now, I have a VNC session going, I have Chrome running multiple tabs... so, yeah... my system isn't just sitting here doing nothing. From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot This I don't understand, running of management tools on (sometimes dedicated) servers. Why not go the whole hog and run your email and internet browsing on a server too? If you were using a thin client or a drastically underpowered PC, then this would make sense, but not if you have a decent workstation. I agree that running lots of consoles creates a headache due to startup time and occasionally on a resource basis, so what we try to do is integrate as much stuff as possible into OpsManager, so we don't need to stare at a load of consoles. Then I can only open consoles as I need to work on them. But if your PC can't handle running seven or eight applications including a few management consoles, or if you worry because your machine uses lots of its memory (even though it is there to be used), then you have a few issues that need to be resolved. Just my 2 penneth worth, ymmv Sent from my POS BlackBerry wireless device, which may wipe itself at any moment From: Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:04:20 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Better on a workstation than on a server is all I can say. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:29 PM, John Aldrich
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No; I would never have been allowed to post the kind of questions he posts at the start of my career. Although, to be fair, that would have involved questions pertaining to the best way to carry a stack of System/36 reel-to-reel tapes from the data center to the backup location - should I stack more above the elbow, or below, and is the loss risk of carrying a whole batch at once worth it? That sort of thing... At the start of my career, I was taught to research. And, when necessary, to seek help, by presenting a documented case indicating what the issue was, what had been attempted, what had been eliminated or what was suspected, and to indicate the specific areas that I needed detailed help in. Not, for instance, this bunch of garbage. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: any chance that J is you at the start of your career? maybe he's just now learning his lessons... -- *From:* William Robbins [dangerw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:04 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Well anything covers a lot of ground Gary, and I don't think that's fair. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:50, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.comwrote: **You prove your own point. He's not a 'professional' anything. -- *From: *William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com *Date: *Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:36:44 -0500 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot I would submit that you should, as an IT professional have an idea of costs because you may be asked by management to provide that information for budgetary planning... Or you could submit a blind post here and hope someone does your research for you...again. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:21, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Honestly, I have not looked at the cost of a new desktop system lately as I know that management is not going to approve the purchase of one. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot What was supposed to be shocking exactly? That you have no idea about hardware costs, or that you think I wouldn't have a spare $2500? - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:33, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Actually, I have no idea what a new, fully-loaded 64-bit system will cost. I haven't actually priced one. I was just making up a number for shock value. :D From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Same here. But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our work. - WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: $2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad core with 8GB of RAM On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and software? I mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with Office 2010 and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a 3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the economy is going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine any time soon. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those things you've listed tax it's resources to the point that you can't do your job appropriately. But then, given your posts regarding this problem today I doubt you'll understand anything I have to say either. But I feel bad for Jonathan whose head seems to be swelling. He's been walking around paraphrasing Tombstone of all things... - WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:32, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I *AM* running multiple apps at once. Microsoft LookOut!...err... Outlook is a bit of a resource hog. My AS/400 terminal client is running now, I have a VNC session going, I have Chrome running multiple tabs... so, yeah... my system isn't just sitting here doing nothing. From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot This I don't understand, running of management tools on (sometimes
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Do I strike you as that kind of patient? (pun intended). I've mentored. People that showed a base level of clue and initiative. Not that post every damn little detail of their daily job to a tech list. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.comwrote: you were fortunate to have mentors, then. not all of us are that fortunate. maybe you should take John under your wing and teach him the right way to do things. -- *From:* Gary Slinger [gary.slin...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:06 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot No; I would never have been allowed to post the kind of questions he posts at the start of my career. Although, to be fair, that would have involved questions pertaining to the best way to carry a stack of System/36 reel-to-reel tapes from the data center to the backup location - should I stack more above the elbow, or below, and is the loss risk of carrying a whole batch at once worth it? That sort of thing... At the start of my career, I was taught to research. And, when necessary, to seek help, by presenting a documented case indicating what the issue was, what had been attempted, what had been eliminated or what was suspected, and to indicate the specific areas that I needed detailed help in. Not, for instance, this bunch of garbage. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com wrote: any chance that J is you at the start of your career? maybe he's just now learning his lessons... -- *From:* William Robbins [dangerw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:04 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Well anything covers a lot of ground Gary, and I don't think that's fair. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:50, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.comwrote: **You prove your own point. He's not a 'professional' anything. -- *From: *William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com *Date: *Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:36:44 -0500 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: *NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot I would submit that you should, as an IT professional have an idea of costs because you may be asked by management to provide that information for budgetary planning... Or you could submit a blind post here and hope someone does your research for you...again. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:21, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Honestly, I have not looked at the cost of a new desktop system lately as I know that management is not going to approve the purchase of one. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot What was supposed to be shocking exactly? That you have no idea about hardware costs, or that you think I wouldn't have a spare $2500? - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:33, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Actually, I have no idea what a new, fully-loaded 64-bit system will cost. I haven't actually priced one. I was just making up a number for shock value. :D From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Same here. But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our work. - WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: $2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad core with 8GB of RAM On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and software? I mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with Office 2010 and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a 3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the economy is going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine any time soon. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those things you've listed tax it's resources to the point that you can't do your job appropriately. But then, given your posts regarding this problem today I doubt you'll understand anything I have to say either. But I feel bad for Jonathan whose head seems to be swelling
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Stuff I'd say with my boss standing there? OK. You're an idiot. A petulant, spoiled, lazy, incompetent little waste of oxygen with absolutely no competence, ability, or demonstrated capability of facility in or for the field of IT. You're an ignorant little ponce that openly abuses people that CAN do the job you profess to do. You claim to be an IT Manager? I wouldn't hire you as a Junior trainee SysAdmin. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:11 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: This is an open list. I specifically restricted myself to work appropriate language. If it's something you wouldn't say with your boss standing there, then I don't put it on paper/email/whatever at work. -Original Message- From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot ComicStoreGuy Worst flame ever... /ComicStoreGuy I realize that you likely feel that people are being harsh with you, but consider this. This is a user community for sysadmins; and sysadmins are generally expected to be at least mid-level IT people. The kind of questions and responses we have been seeing from you are what most of us would expect from a user (and honestly a pretty non-tech savvy one) rather than someone in our field of expertise. It would be like spending an evening at your favorite Irish bar and having some frat boy come in and start loudly asking for and extolling the virtues of PBR. :) DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot And some of you guys on here are just professional jerks! From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Well anything covers a lot of ground Gary, and I don't think that's fair. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:50, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: You prove your own point. He's not a 'professional' anything. From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:36:44 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot I would submit that you should, as an IT professional have an idea of costs because you may be asked by management to provide that information for budgetary planning... Or you could submit a blind post here and hope someone does your research for you...again. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:21, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Honestly, I have not looked at the cost of a new desktop system lately as I know that management is not going to approve the purchase of one. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot What was supposed to be shocking exactly? That you have no idea about hardware costs, or that you think I wouldn't have a spare $2500? - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:33, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Actually, I have no idea what a new, fully-loaded 64-bit system will cost. I haven't actually priced one. I was just making up a number for shock value. :D From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Same here. But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our work. - WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: $2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad core with 8GB of RAM On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so for all new hardware and software? I mean, I'd love to have a nice new 64-bit Windows 7 machine with Office 2010 and all that stuff...but unfortunately, I don't have that. I've got a 3-year-old Optiplex running XP Pro 32-bit. And with the way the economy is going lately, I don't see me getting an upgraded desktop machine any time soon. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Just a thought...perhaps you need a new workstation if those things you've listed tax it's resources
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Yeah, I have a different boss to what I used to have. My old boss? It would have been more along the lines of: You m*-f** idiot! You're a c***-s* spoiled ws**ofab** a**g*! Your mother s*** the most useful part out of you with the afterbirth! You f** donkey! I wouldn't hire you to clean the c** monitors! Go f*** a f** donut, carpetboy! Or something along those lines... On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: Still pretty mild... lol! On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.comwrote: Stuff I'd say with my boss standing there? OK. You're an idiot. A petulant, spoiled, lazy, incompetent little waste of oxygen with absolutely no competence, ability, or demonstrated capability of facility in or for the field of IT. You're an ignorant little ponce that openly abuses people that CAN do the job you profess to do. You claim to be an IT Manager? I wouldn't hire you as a Junior trainee SysAdmin. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:11 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: This is an open list. I specifically restricted myself to work appropriate language. If it's something you wouldn't say with your boss standing there, then I don't put it on paper/email/whatever at work. -Original Message- From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot ComicStoreGuy Worst flame ever... /ComicStoreGuy I realize that you likely feel that people are being harsh with you, but consider this. This is a user community for sysadmins; and sysadmins are generally expected to be at least mid-level IT people. The kind of questions and responses we have been seeing from you are what most of us would expect from a user (and honestly a pretty non-tech savvy one) rather than someone in our field of expertise. It would be like spending an evening at your favorite Irish bar and having some frat boy come in and start loudly asking for and extolling the virtues of PBR. :) DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot And some of you guys on here are just professional jerks! From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Well anything covers a lot of ground Gary, and I don't think that's fair. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:50, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: You prove your own point. He's not a 'professional' anything. From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 12:36:44 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot I would submit that you should, as an IT professional have an idea of costs because you may be asked by management to provide that information for budgetary planning... Or you could submit a blind post here and hope someone does your research for you...again. - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:21, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Honestly, I have not looked at the cost of a new desktop system lately as I know that management is not going to approve the purchase of one. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot What was supposed to be shocking exactly? That you have no idea about hardware costs, or that you think I wouldn't have a spare $2500? - WJR On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:33, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Actually, I have no idea what a new, fully-loaded 64-bit system will cost. I haven't actually priced one. I was just making up a number for shock value. :D From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 5:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Same here. But we don't shop for Alienware PC's to do our work. - WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:28, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote: $2500?!?!?!?! Funny, my company didn't pay more than $1000 for my quad core with 8GB of RAM On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stefan Jafs stefan.j...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I guess the carpet business is flat on the floor in this economy. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Gee... you got an extra $2500+ or so
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As a random aside, I've written corporate policies before where, if I found you arbitrarily logging on to a server itself (either physically, or via RDP) to check something, when the management console was available on your desktop, I'd start you on the path to termination. With you doing this stuff in a way that leads to reboots, I doubt I'd even need more than one call to HR. Leave the server alone. Use your workstation and the remote tools properly. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:29 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Well, yeah... but I don't choose to load down my workstation with a whole bunch of management consoles and associated crap. :D From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Agreed. I can run the VIPRE console on the server but choose to do it from my desktop machine instead. It's rarely open on the server. Roger Wright ___ Dr. Seuss is my favorite rapper! Cat - Hat... sheer genius! On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Why on earth have the console running all the time, then? On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Nope... it's not the Vipre server that's the problem, it's the console. Guess I'll just have to live with manually shutting down the console if I want to reboot the server. It's not that big a deal now that I've decided not to automatically reboot the server weekly. From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Vipre console hangs server on reboot how about a net stop vipre services. I can't test right now, but that seems like it would stop the console too. there's two key vipre services, by the way. If you can net stop, there's no reason to taskkill From: Andrew S. Baker [asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Well, if they (app vendor) offer no programmatic way to shut the console down, and they (app vendor) are suggesting that you kill the task, then your only other alternative will be an application that programmatically manages the dialog boxes. This approach will likely be complicated by the state of the server (e.g. workstation locked). Process killing is rarely fraught with peril... ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I suppose there’s no real reason to reboot the server on a scheduled basis… THAT server has never had any real issues… As for not running the Console remotely, I really don’t wish to install it on another machine as it’s a bit of a resource hog. As far as taskkill, I just don’t like killing off a process “just because”, and that’s what that seems like to me. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot A - Why are you rebooting the server on a scheduled basis? B - Why are you not running the Vipre console remotely? C - What's wrong with Taskkill (assuming you don't wish to address the previous two issues)? ASB http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I have to manually shut down Vipre Enterprise Console if I want the server to come up on a scheduled reboot, otherwise it hangs the server and I have to manually power-cycle the server to get it to work. I checked with Sunbelt support and they said there is no way to *programmatically* close the console when I reboot the server (scheduled task, so it's non-interactive.) They suggested using Microsoft's TaskKill. Anyone got any better suggestions? Server is Windows 2003R2 standard. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click
Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot
Syphilitic budgies fornicating with pox ridden gerbils in a blender! On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:10 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote: +1 (Just for Gary) - WJR On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 13:08, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: Cessation of the behavior J ** ** *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:00 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot ** ** Yes. But when everything produces the same result, what then? On Tuesday, July 26, 2011, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: You know the old axiom about the definition of insanity? I’m coming to the conclusion the Doctors need a dose of their own medicine … From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot You don't see it. You're like the patient who goes to the doctor and says, Doctor my arm hurts when I do this. Doctor says Don't do that. We are the doctor telling you to avoid behavior that causes you pain. And this isn't the first time our prescription has involved a modification of behavior. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:28 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Easy -- so I don't have to wait for it to load up when I RDP into the server. :D I like to keep an eye on things and make sure everyone is updating as they should, etc. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Vipre console hangs server on reboot Why on earth have the console running all the time, then? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Security and maintenance on virtual co-lo servers
I'm just trying to take care of a problem that really, I'm not qualified to take care of. No change there then. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:50 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: It's a virtual server at a regional ISP. It's their property, they are hosting our website on their virtual server. The Marketing Manager quit a few weeks ago to get a better gig and left me as one of the few (if not the only) technical people here. I'm just trying to take care of a problem that really, I'm not qualified to take care of. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Security and maintenance on virtual co-lo servers So, since I'm late to the game (vacation) and I have too many emails to attempt to try to catch up (vacation) you have a server you are responsible for somehow, and you don't have access? How does that work? :) (Besides the obvious answer of it doesn't.) - WJR On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:10, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks. I am a bit suspicious of someone who finds threats and offers to fix them, for a small fee. :D That's why I was leaning towards Qualys. I'm trying to find out how to mitigate some of the concerns that were brought up by another free security scanner I found that scans public-facing servers. It found some minor security vulnerabilities I would like to plug, but at this point, I have no information on how to access the server itself so I can't do that. From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Security and maintenance on virtual co-lo servers We use Qualys here at the office, and have found it to be very reliable. +19 on TANSTAAFL. - WJR On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 08:48, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you should become familiar with the concept of TAANSTAFL. On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:45 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Funny thing... Qualys didn't find anything, but securi.net found some javascript malware. Not sure which to believe. Anyone got another free scanner that isn't trying to sell you something? :) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Stupid user tricks
My general philosophy - 'people are stupid'. -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:02:47 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Stupid user tricks Sorry - I disagree. Some people can't read a timetable. Or work their mobile phone. Or work out how their microwave/vcr/dvd player/dishwasher works. Or understand how their car works. Or how to cook chicken. Or make an espresso - a typical espresso machine only has two buttons, one knob and a steam nozzle. Not everyone finds a mouse intuitive. I struggled to use an iPhone for several days, and yet I figure myself to be a tech-savvy person. Cheers Ken From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2011 10:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Stupid user tricks Basic they may be, but they are not on as fundamental a level as reading, writing, arithmetic and understanding how a mouse works. In my opinion anyway. On 21 June 2011 15:46, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Surely understanding your legal obligations are also a basic skill? Understanding how to bank is a basic skill? Understanding your employment terms and conditions is a basic skill? I mean, most people obey the law, pay taxes, are employed, have a bank account/mortgage etc.? Sometimes you are going to do something - whether that be to tell the bank to pay someone, or you're going to fill in something on your tax return. And you are not 100% sure if you are right, and you're not sure what the consequences are. So you call an expert that is *being paid by the company* to answer these queries. And if the burden of answering these queries is too much, then get management to pay to automate the solution or educate the users. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2011 10:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Stupid user tricks It's fair enough to make that comparison, but a lot of basic IT skills - the ones that sometimes we get called by users about - are probably just as important as reading, writing and maths in the modern world. You wouldn't expect a user to call you with a question about adding up or punctuation, would you? Wannabe British teachers have to pass a test called a QT test these days that, among other things, tests the basic IT skills. It includes word processing, storing and retrieving documents, sending an email, browsing the Internet, etc. I think it is a pretty good idea. On 21 June 2011 15:31, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Have you never called/talked/emailed any other professional anywhere, in your entire life, with a question that the other person thought was basic? Maybe about your taxes (your accountant), your HR/employment status (HR department), your banking details (your bank) etc.? Sometimes people do not wish to take risks that they can not ascertain. So they call the designated expert. Your job is to answer their queries. That is what puts money in your bank account every week/fortnight/month/whatever period you get paid. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, 21 June 2011 3:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Stupid user tricks This morning I got a call as I was getting ready for work. I had borrowed a machine from one part of the plant for a couple days and then put it back. The place where I put it had a different sign-on for the AS/400. This morning they called to complain that they were on the wrong screen. I told them to log out and log back in as the correct user. That took care of it. *sigh* Why did they have to call??? Didn't they have enough sense to log on as the correct user before calling??? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. * IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER * This document should be read only by those persons to whom it is addressed. If you have received this message it was obviously addressed to you and therefore you can read it, even it we didn't mean to send it to you. However, if the contents of this email make no sense whatsoever then you probably were not the intended recipient, or,
Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
Perhaps. My (obnoxious, I grant you) point is that I agree, and here's why, with examples is useful. +1 comes from lists/boards that maintained a post count. It made a /tiny/ bit of sense there - 'please increase my post count by one!!!'. Here, it's just noise. And if noise is ok, I figured my comment was just as valuable. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:11:25 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? Well, to be fair, it does add some endorsement to the original answer so it’s at least slightly more valuable than a reference to primate genitalia. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube? Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts. I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds exactly as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'. There's not even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it. -- Gary K. Slinger On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala she...@msn.commailto:she...@msn.com wrote: +1 [Red rose]Shauna Hensala From: sca...@gmail.commailto:sca...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500 VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use. Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video we get handed to us from various projects. Sam -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]mailto:[mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many players I've found understand that format. :D From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube? +1 -- ME2 On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly? Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube? From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]mailto:[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be careful. Some contain scumware. The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the video while it’s playing. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube? Is there any way to snag a video from YouTube or other online site? I know there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that one of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some reason) and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering if anyone knew any way it could be streamlined. TIA, JRR -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit more temperamental. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts. I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds exactly as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'. There's not even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it. -- Gary K. Slinger On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala she...@msn.com wrote: +1 Shauna Hensala From: sca...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500 VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use. Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video we get handed to us from various projects. Sam -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many players I've found understand that format. :D From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube? +1 -- ME2 On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly? Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube? From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be careful. Some contain scumware. The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the video while it’s playing. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube? Is there any way to snag a video from YouTube or other online site? I know there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that one of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some reason) and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering if anyone knew any way it could be streamlined. TIA, JRR -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit more temperamental. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
Re: Capturing video from YouTube?
Fornicating dwarves in ketchup and honey-mustard. -Original Message- From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:33:50 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube? +1 - WJR On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 22:22, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Cock-gobblin' monkey nuts. I think I'll randomly post that whenever I feel like it now, as it adds exactly as much frigging value as an unqualified waste of space '+1'. There's not even a goddamn post-count, which is the BS origination of it. -- Gary K. Slinger On Jun 13, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Shauna Hensala she...@msn.com wrote: +1 [image: Red rose]Shauna Hensala From: sca...@gmail.comsca...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:15:13 -0500 VLC Player will. Which is the only Media Player I ever use. Even deployed it at work because of all the weird formats of audio/video we get handed to us from various projects. Sam -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? Well, for one, youtube stores the files in .FLV format, and not too many players I've found understand that format. :D From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Capturing video from YouTube? +1 -- ME2 On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Uh, that would degrade the quality significantly? Why not dump the actual movie file sent to you from youtube? From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Capturing video from YouTube? There are multiple YouTube downloaders out there, but you have to be careful. Some contain scumware. The safest way is to use something like SnagIT to capture/record the video while it’s playing. From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Capturing video from YouTube? Is there any way to snag a video from YouTube or other online site? I know there are various copyright issues attached to this, but it's just that one of my little lads is obsessed with planes (mostly the F14, for some reason) and loves to watch a particular video of it. It's just that booting up my laptop, attaching it to the TV, switching the TV to VGA mode, and then firing up the video for him is a bit of a chore, and I was just wondering if anyone knew any way it could be streamlined. TIA, JRR -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. IMPORTANT: The information in this email is CONFIDENTIAL. If its contents are disclosed in any way my lawyers will swoop down from black helicopters like Seal Team Six and drag you away with a black bag over your head. They will then take you to a secret prison and make you fight to the death with other people who dared to share this email. You will be given a large bowie knife and a supply of methamphetamines while I watch the said deathmatch and wager vast sums of money on who will be the winner. If the fight becomes boring or there is a stalemate, I will release rabid dogs and my two-stone cat into the arena to liven things up a bit. If these animals become in any way docile, I will squirt them with water pistols until they become a bit more temperamental. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog
Re: Contingency For Home Workers
Current work allows only IT staff to use anything other than company supplied hardware. --- why IT gets a bad rep with business units. -Original Message- From: Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 19:51:31 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Contingency For Home Workers I know I am going to echo what others are saying but last place I worked only company owned hardware was allowed to touch the internal network whether by direct or indirect connection. The only exception was for email and that was supplied by Exchange. No support for personal devices was allowed except by bringing them into the office and allowing IT to fix it. If it needed rebuilding the owner was required to supply all original disks for the reinstall. Best effort only even then and at IT's convience. Current work allows only IT staff to use anything other than company supplied hardware. We do nothing to assist home users with their personal hardware at all under any condition. Jon On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:55 AM, Robert Jackson r...@walkermartyn.co.ukwrote: Just looking for some thoughts/feedback on what others are doing. We have a number of home workers who have remote access capability based around Oracle’s Secure Global Desktop (a Tarantella WebTop derivative) and RSA SecurID token technology. The setup is ideal: we give the users a SecurID token and they use their own home broadband connection and hardware (PC/Laptop) to access the company systems. However we had a scenario over last weekend whereby one home worker decided to upgrade to Internet Explorer 9 and yes you’ve guessed it Oracle’s Secure Global Desktop stopped working due to Java issues. I’ve now been asked to come up with a “cost effective” contingency plan should such a situation arise again. My initial thoughts would be to get the users to use Firefox or Safari instead of IE. Although I don’t think you can force users to use something they may be do not want to, especially as it their own personal kit. So, it brings me to the question of how do other people/businesses deal with the whole home worker scenario, especially when faced with hardware issues or software upgrades gone bad? Regards, Rab. = Robert Jackson Phone: +44 (0) 141 332 7999 IT Manager Fax: +44 (0) 141 331 2820 Walker Martyn Ltd 1 Park Circus PlaceEmail: r...@walkermartyn.co.uk Glasgow G3 6AH, Scotland Web: http://www.walkermartyn.co.uk = The information in this internet E-mail is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Walker Martyn Ltd or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact administra...@walkermartyn.co.uk. Walker Martyn Ltd, company number SC197533. Company is registered in Scotland and has its registered office at 1 Park Circus Place, Glasgow G3 6AH, UK. https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12fe2c6f13b81e86_ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: More cracker fun!
Negligent of Google, possibly. Not of Vupen - they have no responsibility or duty of care to google or non-clients. (Not a lawyer, etc.) -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 08:46:01 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: More cracker fun! +100 *ASB *(Professional Bio http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... * On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: While Google itself (well, in the person of Tavis) is famous for not responsibly disclosing vulnerabilities it finds, Vupen’s work strikes me as downright (let me make clear – this is my opinion) criminal. They have determined a critical security vulnerability and they don’t intend to share it with anyone EXCEPT their paying customers? Not even with the vendor? I consider that negligent, at best. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org] *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 8:39 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* More cracker fun! Google Chrome, current version (as of this morning, 10-MAY-2011, version 11.0.696.65), all version of Windows, both 32- and 64-bit, an exploit has been found whereby malicious code can break out of the sand box: http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20061269-245.html?tag=mncol;txt -- richard ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: Marketing Manager position open
I think the grocery store down the road is looking for an early morning stock boy. I know pretty much everyone here is in IT, but some of you probably know people in other areas too, so if you can think of anyone other than John qualified for the position, please pass this information along. --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Marketing Manager position open Sent: May 10, 2011 09:58 Hey, guys... I know pretty much everyone here is in IT, but some of you probably know people in other areas, so please feel free to pass this information along Blueridge Carpet in Ellijay, GA has an immediate opening for a Marketing Manager. Duties include, but are not limited to, maintaining the website using the custom CMS on the site as well as sending out updated information via ConstantContact to sales reps, Twitter, Facebook, etc. Please have anyone interested contact me for the contact information on the guy with the details. :D I have no details on the *exact* duties or salary/benefits. Do, however, note that experience with the NedGraphics carpet design software would be extremely helpful. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Antivirus Center
Is there a no-frigging-signature mode? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 14:41:05 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Antivirus Center Yes. Safe Mode, command-prompt. John-AldrichThread-Count From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Antivirus Center Was it run in safe mode? From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Antivirus Center I just had a remote user infected with Antivirus Center fake antivirus. I had him try to run Vipre Rescue, but it didn't find anything. Any idea why VR didn't find it? John-AldrichThread-Count ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Docuteam
innocent look trying to be nice What Jonathan said. With the edit/initials, you're closer, but there's still a lot of other stuff that would need to be in the Contract, and even then all you're doing is setting the stage for an action/suit after the fact. IANAL either - but I write, review and sign contracts every single working day. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: *facepalm* Ok, if they fail to honor the contract, then what? Are the terms of the breach indicated within the contract. Likely they are, and your likely amount of compensation is quite low in that event. Seriously, take some of the advice offered from this list, even if it comes with people who are occasionally antagonistic towards you. We offer it, and yet you refuse time and time again. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:03 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I checked with the sales rep. According to him, It's intended to mean on-site and he said I can add that to the contract, initial it and he'd initial it as well to make it part of the contract. IANAL, but it seems reasonable to believe that if both parties initial it, it has the force of the contract. -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Docuteam Maybe you oughta consult a lawyer, or a more experienced contracts person, before you try any such thing. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:19:40 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Docuteam Hmm... maybe I oughta add a clause *requiring* on-site within 4 hours. :D From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Docuteam +1 They can respond to your piddly requests really fast, and then your major outages slowly and still maintain that their average response time is within 4 hours. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, not only does that not indicate on-site, it also does not hold them to a specific response time. - Sean On May 2, 2011, at 4:04 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: DocuTeam guarantees that DocuTeam certified field service engineers will respond to your emergency service calls, placed to our dispatch department, within an average four hours, exclusing IT Related service calls... That would seem to indicate 4-hour on-site -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Docuteam I can tell you that I've switched to a cheaper copy company, and the service went down the toilet. More important than getting the cost in writing, is getting the service terms in writing. A 4 hour onsite vs 4 hour response statement is a BIG difference. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Docuteam Yeah... honestly I don't know how they can make money, but it seems to be there in black white... *shrug* From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Docuteam If it's too good to be true... On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Which is why I was asking if someone in this group had ever used them. :D -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Docuteam Yup, it is all about the service. But of course you won't really know that until you switch and try to hold them to their agreement. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Docuteam Anyone in the Atlanta area have any experience with Docuteam? They're offering to buy out our leases on our copiers and printers and save us money at the same time. Just wondering... it seems too good to be true, but the money is there in black white. Anyone have any experience working with Docuteam? Any gotchas that I should be aware of that would make us want to stay with our current copier/printer vendor? I'm thinking more on the lines of service quality as the discussion here has pretty much been the hardware all pretty much just works...you need to worry about service. So far, our service with our
Re: Docuteam
Maybe you oughta consult a lawyer, or a more experienced contracts person, before you try any such thing. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Mon, 2 May 2011 16:19:40 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Docuteam Hmm... maybe I oughta add a clause *requiring* on-site within 4 hours. :D From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Docuteam +1 They can respond to your piddly requests really fast, and then your major outages slowly and still maintain that their average response time is within 4 hours. On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Sean Martin seanmarti...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, not only does that not indicate on-site, it also does not hold them to a specific response time. - Sean On May 2, 2011, at 4:04 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: DocuTeam guarantees that DocuTeam certified field service engineers will respond to your emergency service calls, placed to our dispatch department, within an average four hours, exclusing IT Related service calls... That would seem to indicate 4-hour on-site -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Docuteam I can tell you that I've switched to a cheaper copy company, and the service went down the toilet. More important than getting the cost in writing, is getting the service terms in writing. A 4 hour onsite vs 4 hour response statement is a BIG difference. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Docuteam Yeah... honestly I don't know how they can make money, but it seems to be there in black white... *shrug* From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Docuteam If it's too good to be true... On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 2:58 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Which is why I was asking if someone in this group had ever used them. :D -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Docuteam Yup, it is all about the service. But of course you won't really know that until you switch and try to hold them to their agreement. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Docuteam Anyone in the Atlanta area have any experience with Docuteam? They're offering to buy out our leases on our copiers and printers and save us money at the same time. Just wondering... it seems too good to be true, but the money is there in black white. Anyone have any experience working with Docuteam? Any gotchas that I should be aware of that would make us want to stay with our current copier/printer vendor? I'm thinking more on the lines of service quality as the discussion here has pretty much been the hardware all pretty much just works...you need to worry about service. So far, our service with our existing vendor has been pretty good, they just can't save us as much money as Docuteam. Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
Re: Color issues
LOL. You have yet to see me irritated to the extreme or aggravated. You also have a flawed procurement policy. Read the other posts that were made. Your only legitimate comment regarding pricing is when the /reseller/ doesn't post pricing. That's just silly. Even if/when a manufacturer posts prices - for instance, Microsoft - what's the point? Who pays retail? On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Ralph Smith m...@gatewayindustries.orgwrote: Hey Gary, Based on your often vitriolic responses to John's posts, he obviously irritates you to an extreme. Why don't you just filter out his posts and save yourself the aggravation? To quote Stu's often repeated mantra, Remember: on topic, no noise, FRIENDLY. At the risk of earning your contempt myself I generally agree with John in regards to companies that don't post their prices on their web sites. That's surely their choice and part of their sales strategy, but for me, working at a non-profit with a very small budget, I have learned to just pass them by. Many times in the past I have inquired with them for pricing information, and nearly 100% of the time the results have been that they are well out of the realm of possibility for me. For companies that don't sell direct, the same applies if pricing is not available on their reseller's sites either. This is of course for products that fall into the category of would be really nice to have, not mission critical applications or devices. Ralph Smith -Original Message- From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues Hey, I've joked before that my role of supervising engineers is like teaching kindergarten. Well today, even more so. It's remedial level IT procurement tuition day :) -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:09:44 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt- software.comSubject: RE: Color issues The issue is not requiring spoonfeeding. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Color issues You go to the car dealership and see a car you like. If there were no sticker in the window saying how much it cost would you A) Go ask B) walk off the lot? I've always operated under the attitude of if I have to ask, it's too much. Checking the price, it appears that ColorMunki is more expensive. That being said it's made by Pantone, the folks who make the color charts, so that may be something to consider as well. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues Are you fscking shitting me? I can't even be bothered to wrap this in a just fscking google it: http://www.google.com/search?q=colormunkitbs=shop%3A1aq=f Here, even easier: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield- keywords =colormunki On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks... I looked at ColorMunki, but I didn't see a price. That scares me. :D At least with the Spyders, I know up-front what it costs. :D From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues +1 on the Spyders. They are very popular in the pro-photographer crowd. -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: You have to calibrate the monitor. I do this for my photography. I have always preferred the Spyder calibrators but there are others. http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc.php Now, you have one more variable. Is your camera accurately capturing the color and is your software properly interpreting the data in the image. Probably not. So you calibrate the monitorbut you display a picture that has bad color data. Only way to get it near perfect is to shoot a color card next to the carpet samplethen adjust the image in photoshop so the color card colors are correct. However, if you skip the color card step you should be pretty darn close with a decent camera and proper lighting. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Color issues Our marketing guy is also our product design guy. He's got some special software that allows him to take a carpet pattern and make a picture of what it should look like. We then post that picture on our website. One of the managers
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On those occasions where I need to know the MSRP, my reseller will provide it. Would you like me to point out the part of the Amazon page for the Colormunki where it shows the List price as well as the actual price? On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:22 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: So you never look at the MSRP? It seems to me to be at least cognizant of the MSRP. It gives one an expected price range so you aren't overly surprised when you go look at a vendor to see what it sells for. Sure the reseller probably discounts a product a bit. If I know that two products, which do essentially the same job, from two different manufacturers have an MSRP that is, say $50 apart, I'm more likely to look on the lower MSRP product as my first choice, barring a huge difference in the reseller price of the higher MSRP product. Now, if one of the products has a reputation for doing a MUCH better job than the other one, I'm more likely to go with the one that has the best reputation, if it only costs a *little* more. That being said, I'm seriously considering the ColorMunki as it is made by Pantone and we use Pantone colors here in making carpet. The price is very similar to the Spyder product, but it has the advantage of being made by Pantone, so has an edge there for me. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues LOL. You have yet to see me irritated to the extreme or aggravated. You also have a flawed procurement policy. Read the other posts that were made. Your only legitimate comment regarding pricing is when the /reseller/ doesn't post pricing. That's just silly. Even if/when a manufacturer posts prices - for instance, Microsoft - what's the point? Who pays retail? sadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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It's called 'color profiling' / monitor calibration. Google. Photographers do it all the time. --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Color issues Sent: Apr 26, 2011 13:52 Our marketing guy is also our product design guy. He's got some special software that allows him to take a carpet pattern and make a picture of what it should look like. We then post that picture on our website. One of the managers was complaining because the colors don't match up to the actual sample. I have tried to explain to him that it will vary quite a bit depending on the type of machine and monitor you're looking at the picture on. We showed the same picture on four different monitors hooked up to two different machines and got four different colors, a couple of them dramatically different from the other 2. Two of the monitors were Dell LCD desktop monitors, one was a Dell XPS laptop screen, the 4th was an IBM flat panel. It was the darkest and greenest even after resetting the monitor to the factory specs using the on-board reset. Now that I've explained the problem... any suggestions on how to get things so that they closely approximate the actual product? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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ColorMunki -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:57:28 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Color issues You have to calibrate the monitor. I do this for my photography. I have always preferred the Spyder calibrators but there are others. http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc.php Now, you have one more variable. Is your camera accurately capturing the color and is your software properly interpreting the data in the image. Probably not. So you calibrate the monitorbut you display a picture that has bad color data. Only way to get it near perfect is to shoot a color card next to the carpet samplethen adjust the image in photoshop so the color card colors are correct. However, if you skip the color card step you should be pretty darn close with a decent camera and proper lighting. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Color issues Our marketing guy is also our product design guy. He's got some special software that allows him to take a carpet pattern and make a picture of what it should look like. We then post that picture on our website. One of the managers was complaining because the colors don't match up to the actual sample. I have tried to explain to him that it will vary quite a bit depending on the type of machine and monitor you're looking at the picture on. We showed the same picture on four different monitors hooked up to two different machines and got four different colors, a couple of them dramatically different from the other 2. Two of the monitors were Dell LCD desktop monitors, one was a Dell XPS laptop screen, the 4th was an IBM flat panel. It was the darkest and greenest even after resetting the monitor to the factory specs using the on-board reset. Now that I've explained the problem... any suggestions on how to get things so that they closely approximate the actual product? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Are you fscking shitting me? I can't even be bothered to wrap this in a just fscking google it: http://www.google.com/search?q=colormunkitbs=shop%3A1aq=f Here, even easier: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords=colormunki On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.comwrote: Thanks… I looked at ColorMunki, but I didn’t see a price. That scares me. :D At least with the Spyders, I know up-front what it costs. :D From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues +1 on the Spyders. They are very popular in the pro-photographer crowd. -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: You have to calibrate the monitor. I do this for my photography. I have always preferred the Spyder calibrators but there are others. http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc.php Now, you have one more variable. Is your camera accurately capturing the color and is your software properly interpreting the data in the image. Probably not. So you calibrate the monitorbut you display a picture that has bad color data. Only way to get it near perfect is to shoot a color card next to the carpet samplethen adjust the image in photoshop so the color card colors are correct. However, if you skip the color card step you should be pretty darn close with a decent camera and proper lighting. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Color issues Our marketing guy is also our product design guy. He's got some special software that allows him to take a carpet pattern and make a picture of what it should look like. We then post that picture on our website. One of the managers was complaining because the colors don't match up to the actual sample. I have tried to explain to him that it will vary quite a bit depending on the type of machine and monitor you're looking at the picture on. We showed the same picture on four different monitors hooked up to two different machines and got four different colors, a couple of them dramatically different from the other 2. Two of the monitors were Dell LCD desktop monitors, one was a Dell XPS laptop screen, the 4th was an IBM flat panel. It was the darkest and greenest even after resetting the monitor to the factory specs using the on-board reset. Now that I've explained the problem... any suggestions on how to get things so that they closely approximate the actual product? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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This isn't a car. 95% of the IT stuff I buy isn't from the manufacturer's site. You go to the mfr for speeds and feeds, and your chosen dealer for the product. Even someone at your level of IT should know that by now. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:08:16 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Color issues You go to the car dealership and see a car you like. If there were no sticker in the window saying how much it cost would you A) Go ask B) walk off the lot? I've always operated under the attitude of if I have to ask, it's too much. Checking the price, it appears that ColorMunki is more expensive. That being said it's made by Pantone, the folks who make the color charts, so that may be something to consider as well. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues Are you fscking shitting me? I can't even be bothered to wrap this in a just fscking google it: http://www.google.com/search?q=colormunkitbs=shop%3A1aq=f Here, even easier: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords =colormunki On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks… I looked at ColorMunki, but I didn’t see a price. That scares me. :D At least with the Spyders, I know up-front what it costs. :D From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues +1 on the Spyders. They are very popular in the pro-photographer crowd. -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: You have to calibrate the monitor. I do this for my photography. I have always preferred the Spyder calibrators but there are others. http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc.php Now, you have one more variable. Is your camera accurately capturing the color and is your software properly interpreting the data in the image. Probably not. So you calibrate the monitorbut you display a picture that has bad color data. Only way to get it near perfect is to shoot a color card next to the carpet samplethen adjust the image in photoshop so the color card colors are correct. However, if you skip the color card step you should be pretty darn close with a decent camera and proper lighting. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Color issues Our marketing guy is also our product design guy. He's got some special software that allows him to take a carpet pattern and make a picture of what it should look like. We then post that picture on our website. One of the managers was complaining because the colors don't match up to the actual sample. I have tried to explain to him that it will vary quite a bit depending on the type of machine and monitor you're looking at the picture on. We showed the same picture on four different monitors hooked up to two different machines and got four different colors, a couple of them dramatically different from the other 2. Two of the monitors were Dell LCD desktop monitors, one was a Dell XPS laptop screen, the 4th was an IBM flat panel. It was the darkest and greenest even after resetting the monitor to the factory specs using the on-board reset. Now that I've explained the problem... any suggestions on how to get things so that they closely approximate the actual product? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
Re: Color issues
Hey, I've joked before that my role of supervising engineers is like teaching kindergarten. Well today, even more so. It's remedial level IT procurement tuition day :) -Original Message- From: Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:09:44 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Color issues The issue is not requiring spoonfeeding. -sc -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Color issues You go to the car dealership and see a car you like. If there were no sticker in the window saying how much it cost would you A) Go ask B) walk off the lot? I've always operated under the attitude of if I have to ask, it's too much. Checking the price, it appears that ColorMunki is more expensive. That being said it's made by Pantone, the folks who make the color charts, so that may be something to consider as well. From: Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues Are you fscking shitting me? I can't even be bothered to wrap this in a just fscking google it: http://www.google.com/search?q=colormunkitbs=shop%3A1aq=f Here, even easier: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dapsfield-keywords =colormunki On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:42 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Thanks... I looked at ColorMunki, but I didn't see a price. That scares me. :D At least with the Spyders, I know up-front what it costs. :D From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Color issues +1 on the Spyders. They are very popular in the pro-photographer crowd. -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: You have to calibrate the monitor. I do this for my photography. I have always preferred the Spyder calibrators but there are others. http://spyder.datacolor.com/product-mc.php Now, you have one more variable. Is your camera accurately capturing the color and is your software properly interpreting the data in the image. Probably not. So you calibrate the monitorbut you display a picture that has bad color data. Only way to get it near perfect is to shoot a color card next to the carpet samplethen adjust the image in photoshop so the color card colors are correct. However, if you skip the color card step you should be pretty darn close with a decent camera and proper lighting. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Color issues Our marketing guy is also our product design guy. He's got some special software that allows him to take a carpet pattern and make a picture of what it should look like. We then post that picture on our website. One of the managers was complaining because the colors don't match up to the actual sample. I have tried to explain to him that it will vary quite a bit depending on the type of machine and monitor you're looking at the picture on. We showed the same picture on four different monitors hooked up to two different machines and got four different colors, a couple of them dramatically different from the other 2. Two of the monitors were Dell LCD desktop monitors, one was a Dell XPS laptop screen, the 4th was an IBM flat panel. It was the darkest and greenest even after resetting the monitor to the factory specs using the on-board reset. Now that I've explained the problem... any suggestions on how to get things so that they closely approximate the actual product? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE
Re: Exactly what I've been worrying about...
Checks in at Bahama Breeze -Original Message- From: James Hill j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:47:40 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Exactly what I've been worrying about... Unfortunately that is the case. Arguing the need for security is difficult at the best of times and it seems that Gen Y in particular have even less understanding of its implications. Typically they WANT everyone to know where they are and what they are doing. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2011 7:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exactly what I've been worrying about... No, they're holding their collective breath. This is not good PR for Apple (nor for Android, when the storm hits them), but it's probably not be enough to scare consumers or businesses back to the Blackberry platform, and RIM is just way behind in public perception - because few people actually care about actual security. Kurt On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 14:34, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: RIM execs are laughing behind closed doors. John W. Cook System Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 5950 NW 1st Place Gainesville, Fl 32607 Office (352) 244-1610 Cell (352) 215-6944 MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -Original Message- From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exactly what I've been worrying about... http://www.neowin.net/news/senate-summons-apple-and-google-over-mobile -privacy and Microsoft's word on WP7:- unequivocally that phones running Windows Phone 7 do not store location history. Like most other phones, the platform offers plenty of location-based apps, and those apps require user consent before they begin tracking. Windows Phones also offer the common feature of a global switch that lets the user disable all location services, and Microsoft says its Find My Phone service keeps only the phone's most recent location -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, 25 April 2011 2:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exactly what I've been worrying about... Privacy Act of 1974, comes to mind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy_Act_of_1974 Unfortuntely the Patriot Act give substantial powers to the FBI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act The Act dramatically reduced restrictions on law enforcement agencies' ability to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial, and other records; eased restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States So try and keep you data private, but with these powers there is a good possibility the GOV't could come after citizens of the US for an alleged transgression of the Patriot Act. The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act's expanded law enforcement powers can be applied Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 11:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exactly what I've been worrying about... No laws in the US enforce any organization to tell citizens if they keep personal sensitive data? Miguel --- El dom, 24/4/11, Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org escribió: De: Ziots, Edward ezi...@lifespan.org Asunto: RE: Exactly what I've been worrying about... Para: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Fecha: domingo, 24 de abril, 2011 10:47 Where are the keys stored that do the symmetric encryption? ( On the device, therefore loss of physical security will lead to loss of the information on the device) ( they all suffer this issue, the keys being stored on the device doesn't really cut it) Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exactly what I've been worrying about... Actually, Gingerbread (Android 2.3.3) has the ability to encrypt the phone now. Sean Rector, MCSE -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exactly what I've been worrying about... Quite a while, I suspect. I'd guess that encrypting the phone is going to be a very difficult proposition, if you
Re: Trend Micro Internet Security 14
Do you actually do any friggin' work, or is this your posted support procedure -- receive problem | forward problem to mailing list | wait for someone else to resolve problem ? --Original Message-- From: John Aldrich To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Trend Micro Internet Security 14 Sent: Apr 19, 2011 17:03 I've got a client (daughter-in-law to be of one of our managers) who's got a laptop with Trend Micro Internet Security 14 for Dell on it. I'm trying to load Vipre Home Premium on it, but I want to get rid of Trend first. The uninstall utility from Trend's website doesn't do squat. Any ideas on how to get rid of Trend? It refuses to uninstall from the add/remove programs and as I say the uninstall utility doesn't do a thing! :( Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: e-Reader
Caliber. Whatever to whatever. -Original Message- From: Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:35:21 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: OT: e-Reader I'm watching this with interest as I've just started looking at them as well. One that looks interesting is the KOBO (know know if you can get it in the US). I *believe* there is an application out there that will allow the format to be changed from *whatever* to Kindle On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.comwrote: On 14 Apr 2011 at 9:53, Kevin Lundy wrote: Fine. The Nook has apps on those platforms as well :) Honestly, I think the decision is 2 step: 1) e-ink or LCD screen 2) availability of books in the chosen format. A third part of the decision is multi-platform, with syncing your reading. It is my understanding that the Nook can sync books which are side-loaded (not purchased through the BN store) while I believe the Kindle only syncs books you have purchased. I just got a Nook but have yet to sign up for a Nook account since I have an unsupported phone (Palm Treo 755p). When I move to Android in a few months I'll probably start letting BN monitor what I read. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: e-Reader
Your second para is correct, but misleading. It takes less than 30 seconds to convert a .epub to a .mobi and put it on a Kindle. .mobi also isn't properietary in the sense implied; .mobi is a commonly available (and self-publishable) format, it just happens to support DRM, and Amazon uses DRM. Make an argument that DRM=Bad by all means, but epub good, mobi bad, not so much. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:14:57 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: OT: e-Reader I have friends who have the Kindle and others who have the nook. They both like them. With the Kindle you have the first succesful to market andit's Amazon. You also have a proprietary ebook format. With the Nook you have the standard, widely available epub format. One of the things I have found is some publishers offer ebooks but not through Amazon. So you can buy ebooks elsewhere then Barnes and Nobles or Amazon and side load them. Ultimatly, I suspect it will be preference. I am looking at the Nook (not the color) mianly becasue of epub but really, it's a preference thing in the end. See if you can find someone to borrow both/either from and look for yourself. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: I saw a couple of reviews on that device on Cnet and they were all negative. Funny thing is the Cnet reviews mentioned both the Kindle and Nook in the KOBO review. I could only find reviews on the Kindle and Nook on supported sites. Supported sites tend, at least in MHO, bias on who is supporting them. Jon On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.comwrote: I'm watching this with interest as I've just started looking at them as well. One that looks interesting is the KOBO (know know if you can get it in the US). I *believe* there is an application out there that will allow the format to be changed from *whatever* to Kindle On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: On 14 Apr 2011 at 9:53, Kevin Lundy wrote: Fine. The Nook has apps on those platforms as well :) Honestly, I think the decision is 2 step: 1) e-ink or LCD screen 2) availability of books in the chosen format. A third part of the decision is multi-platform, with syncing your reading. It is my understanding that the Nook can sync books which are side-loaded (not purchased through the BN store) while I believe the Kindle only syncs books you have purchased. I just got a Nook but have yet to sign up for a Nook account since I have an unsupported phone (Palm Treo 755p). When I move to Android in a few months I'll probably start letting BN monitor what I read. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: e-Reader
Oh good. An ignorant poster with if it's not open it's crap biases that I can ignore from now on. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:28:58 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: OT: e-Reader I am lazy and it is still a proprietary format controlled by Amazon. Why should I change when with a little planning I can avoid the ie6 of the publishing world? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.comwrote: Your second para is correct, but misleading. It takes less than 30 seconds to convert a .epub to a .mobi and put it on a Kindle. .mobi also isn't properietary in the sense implied; .mobi is a commonly available (and self-publishable) format, it just happens to support DRM, and Amazon uses DRM. Make an argument that DRM=Bad by all means, but epub good, mobi bad, not so much. -- *From: * Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com *Date: *Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:14:57 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: OT: e-Reader I have friends who have the Kindle and others who have the nook. They both like them. With the Kindle you have the first succesful to market andit's Amazon. You also have a proprietary ebook format. With the Nook you have the standard, widely available epub format. One of the things I have found is some publishers offer ebooks but not through Amazon. So you can buy ebooks elsewhere then Barnes and Nobles or Amazon and side load them. Ultimatly, I suspect it will be preference. I am looking at the Nook (not the color) mianly becasue of epub but really, it's a preference thing in the end. See if you can find someone to borrow both/either from and look for yourself. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: I saw a couple of reviews on that device on Cnet and they were all negative. Funny thing is the Cnet reviews mentioned both the Kindle and Nook in the KOBO review. I could only find reviews on the Kindle and Nook on supported sites. Supported sites tend, at least in MHO, bias on who is supporting them. Jon On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.comwrote: I'm watching this with interest as I've just started looking at them as well. One that looks interesting is the KOBO (know know if you can get it in the US). I *believe* there is an application out there that will allow the format to be changed from *whatever* to Kindle On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com wrote: On 14 Apr 2011 at 9:53, Kevin Lundy wrote: Fine. The Nook has apps on those platforms as well :) Honestly, I think the decision is 2 step: 1) e-ink or LCD screen 2) availability of books in the chosen format. A third part of the decision is multi-platform, with syncing your reading. It is my understanding that the Nook can sync books which are side-loaded (not purchased through the BN store) while I believe the Kindle only syncs books you have purchased. I just got a Nook but have yet to sign up for a Nook account since I have an unsupported phone (Palm Treo 755p). When I move to Android in a few months I'll probably start letting BN monitor what I read. -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 1-520-290-5038 Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
Re: OT: e-Reader
Yes, that :). Sorry - anglo/US typing disorder. --Original Message-- From: Mike Leone To: NT System Admin Issues ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: e-Reader Sent: Apr 14, 2011 22:39 On 4/14/2011 11:59 AM, Gary Slinger wrote: Caliber. Whatever to whatever. Calibre. http://calibre-ebook.com/ Works wonderfully with my Nook. Will convert between any number of formats. Will download from many news sources, as well. And under active development. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: Virtual Phone Service
Other than I'm paranoid, do you have anything of specific interest to state to that? -Original Message- From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:07:18 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: OT: Virtual Phone Service I would have a very careful and cautious read of the ToS for Google Voice before I used that service. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I dont think Google Voice is applicable in your situation because you cant have two GV numbers forward to the same number. -- ME2 *From:* Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: Virtual Phone Service I thought about Google voice, but haven’t used it. Is it reliable? Any gotchas? Sorry, more info, I just want to port of 10 different phone numbers, from different area codes, to forward to one number at our main office. Some of these numbers are with small TelCo’s, so instead of just forwarding, there needs to be a physical phone setup. The call rings once at the physical phone, and then forwards to HQ. Others are with ATT, which forward using a “virtual circuit”, but I get dinged from LD, and monthly service, plus I get 15 or so ATT bills a month. Thanks, Chris *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:50 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Virtual Phone Service Google Voice? More details needed for a potentially different answer. *ASB *(Find me online via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...** * * * On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Chris Blair chris_bl...@identisys.com wrote: I am looking to port over some local area code phone numbers that are scattered around the country, to a cloud/virtual service. I just need those local numbers to forward to our main office phone number. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT: Virtual Phone Service
Your previous reply was reasonable enough, although it hit a number of I don't care points. I'll just say that I've used GV since it was GrandCentral without any issues or drama. And it's the only number I give my clients. No other investment than that. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:34:31 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: OT: Virtual Phone Service Educating yourself to the trade-offs of a service and the company that provides it is not 'paranoid' and such off the cuff insinuation is something a patriot or fanboy would engage in and are unnecessary when you could have the question more simply in the course of a discussion as Richard managed to do. I think I have been on this list long enough to have presented predominatly balanced view points even in areas where I was a partisan. In this case, a business use, it makes on want to be careful to check the basics of the service to ensure you are getting what it is one actually wants. Nothing more, nothing less. Steven Peck http://www.blkmtn.org On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: Other than I'm paranoid, do you have anything of specific interest to state to that? -- *From: * Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com *Date: *Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:07:18 -0700 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *ReplyTo: * NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject: *Re: OT: Virtual Phone Service I would have a very careful and cautious read of the ToS for Google Voice before I used that service. On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I dont think Google Voice is applicable in your situation because you cant have two GV numbers forward to the same number. -- ME2 *From:* Chris Blair [mailto:chris_bl...@identisys.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:07 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: Virtual Phone Service I thought about Google voice, but haven’t used it. Is it reliable? Any gotchas? Sorry, more info, I just want to port of 10 different phone numbers, from different area codes, to forward to one number at our main office. Some of these numbers are with small TelCo’s, so instead of just forwarding, there needs to be a physical phone setup. The call rings once at the physical phone, and then forwards to HQ. Others are with ATT, which forward using a “virtual circuit”, but I get dinged from LD, and monthly service, plus I get 15 or so ATT bills a month. Thanks, Chris *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:50 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Virtual Phone Service Google Voice? More details needed for a potentially different answer. *ASB *(Find me online via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...** * * * On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Chris Blair chris_bl...@identisys.com wrote: I am looking to port over some local area code phone numbers that are scattered around the country, to a cloud/virtual service. I just need those local numbers to forward to our main office phone number. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt
Re: FW: Hacking Cars with MP3 Files
So shut the hell up and but a '67 Mustang or some such. :) Don't'cha love that a 40+ yr old car is still a rock star? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 22:21:13 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: FW: Hacking Cars with MP3 Files On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 15:54, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: What reason on Earth justified tying the music player to the vehicle control systems? In some cars, what used to be the radio is actually morphed into a general-purpose interface for all sorts of things. The sales VP at $WORK has an Audi which is almost more computer than it is car. The same 5 inch LCD in the dash accesses music, navigation, cell phone, climate controls, seat positions, driving preferences, engine maintenance, etc., etc. Mark my words, the day isn't far off where we're going to have to reboot our cars. [insert If Microsoft made cars joke here] There is a reason why, when I bought my 2002 Kia Rio Cinco new from the dealer, that I specified a manual transmission, and no power anything. I will do the same, to the extent possible, if and when I ever buy a new car again. The fewest electronic gadgets possible, and as mechanically simple as possible. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: OT? Laptop bag suggestions
www.tombihn.com - bag or backpack as you see fit. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote: I'm a fan of brenthaven. All their bags and cases have lifetime warranties. Not the cheapest, but great bags. www.brenthaven.com Bill Jonathan wrote: Ok, started my new job yesterday and found out that a laptop bag is my responsibility to acquire. In my last gig, it was provided by the company and property of the company, so I didn't give it much thought. I'm leaning toward Swiss Army, because that's what I had last and it seemed pretty sturdy but haven't really looked. I prefer a backpack. I'll be travelling some in airports in the US, but not a ton. Any suggestions as to what to consider or avoid? Thanks, Jonathan A+, MCSA, MCSE Thumb-typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really is) on the Verizon network. Please excuse brevity and any misspellings. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto: listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Gary K. Slinger Voice: 727-475-1947 // gChat gary.slin...@gmail.com // Skype: garyslinger Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/garyslinger ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Seeking secure e-mail options
So, why share then? -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:29:05 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Seeking secure e-mail options Well, I don't know how they do it, but my bank has a solution for communicating with customers which requires you to log into a website to view/reply to the email they sent you... :-) Not much help, I know. Sorry. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Seeking secure e-mail options Good points. The message contents need to be encrypted since they will house patient/clinical/financial information. Not sure about signed. If we do TLS on the gateway, then server-to-server communications would be encrypted. I can't say too much else about requirements, since there is a state committee looking into this and I thought I'd ask your opinions. But we do need something that will be fairly easy for the sender and recipient, fairly easy to configure and manage. And something that isn't Exchange-centric, for example. Tom Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com 3/4/2011 12:10 PM Please define secure email. Does individual messages need to be encrypted? Do messages just need to be signed? Does server-to-server communications need to be encrypted? There are lots of ways to do this, and depending on your requirement, this can be a breeze (use TLS between servers) or ridiculously complicated (PGP between clients) or somewhere in between (TLS + S/MIME) ASB (Find me online via About.Me) Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: I'm looking for suggestions on secure e-mail. I have a Barracuda which can do some sort of verification, but I don't think that's what is needed. Like agencies in my state are looking for secure e-mail options so we can send clinical data to each other. I'd prefer something that is autonomous to whatever e-mail system is used, since other agencies may be Exchange or other e-mail products. We don't use Exchange here. Suggestions appreciated. Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning
It absolutely blows my mind that someone employs you in any technical fashion whatsoever. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:01:27 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Yeah... I have an account manager. :-) I emailed him this morning, but gave up too quickly. I really should have waited. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Dell has a lot of stuff that is hard to find on their website. If you have an account team (You should get one if not), just email them a picture of the part and they will give you a quote. I usually refer to the service manual diagrams on their site when I have a part in question, such as this: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/late6400/en/sm/html/fcm.htm#wp 1180289 Hope that helps in the future. Sam -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Ok. Thanks... I've been trying to get away with non-OEM as much as possible, but I’m learning some things you just *gotta* go back to the OEM for. Sometimes I can get away with 3rd party ink for an inkjet, but I found some printers are pretty picky, so I have to get OEM ink for them, as an example. I got a quote back from Dell, and it would have been cheaper to get it from them than to get it from the folks I ended up ordering it from. Guess that'll teach me to be more patient in the future, but I couldn't find it on Dell's website, even with the part number, so... :-) -Original Message- From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning You just need to know what you can and can't get away with for OEM. When it comes to batteries for me, they're always OEM. If it was a keyboard, I would buy one off of eBay without hesitation. As long as the keyboard membrane is intact, and you don't suspect anything else is wrong, I will just buy the individually keys. Make sure they come with the two plastic parts that connect the key to the base. With a little patience you can pop keys back in in a few seconds once you've done a few. Most electronics I always try to get OEM, but if your choices are limited and no new parts are sold anymore, you have to go with what's available. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Thanks, I think it might be better to replace the whole keyboard as at least one of the keys no longer has the post where the original key was. Besides... lots of people on here were bashing me about not getting OEM partsso, I thought Id get an OEM keyboard, if it's available. :-) From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dell+inspiron+6400+replacement+key -Jeff Steward On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:31 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Good idea. Next time I think I will buy an OEM replacement battery and do as you suggest. On a related note, I've got an Inspiron 6400 laptop that just came back from the field and it needs a new keyboard as several keys are broken off. Anyone know how to find out the part number for that? I can't find it on Dell's website. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Check to see if you can get a warranty on the battery. It has been a while but for the Latitude line I seem to remember that Dell would add something like $25 to the bill and you would get a replacement battery after 2 years of service on the one you just purchased. Jon On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:04 PM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Actually it's supposed to be an actual Dell battery that's been refurbed by someone other than Dell, so it doesn't have the Dell sticker price. :-) Still, it may be better if we can't get this working, to go ahead and pay the $80 or so that Dell wants for a new battery.. -Original Message- From: Kramer, Jack [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Off-brand battery?
Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning
No, it's a true and accurate statement that I can and will absolutely defend with years of IT management experience, and a really good archive of this list. I primarily read here now, and save for reference. My comment was about someone that is an exemplar of /why/ I'm primarily read-only. Based on the archives, if he worked for me, I'd have fired him months ago. -Original Message- From: Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:07:45 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Cmon mon; that's uncalled for. Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint On Feb 23, 2011 7:41 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: It absolutely blows my mind that someone employs you in any technical fashion whatsoever. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:01:27 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Yeah... I have an account manager. :-) I emailed him this morning, but gave up too quickly. I really should have waited. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Dell has a lot of stuff that is hard to find on their website. If you have an account team (You should get one if not), just email them a picture of the part and they will give you a quote. I usually refer to the service manual diagrams on their site when I have a part in question, such as this: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/late6400/en/sm/html/fcm.htm#wp 1180289 Hope that helps in the future. Sam -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Ok. Thanks... I've been trying to get away with non-OEM as much as possible, but I’m learning some things you just *gotta* go back to the OEM for. Sometimes I can get away with 3rd party ink for an inkjet, but I found some printers are pretty picky, so I have to get OEM ink for them, as an example. I got a quote back from Dell, and it would have been cheaper to get it from them than to get it from the folks I ended up ordering it from. Guess that'll teach me to be more patient in the future, but I couldn't find it on Dell's website, even with the part number, so... :-) -Original Message- From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning You just need to know what you can and can't get away with for OEM. When it comes to batteries for me, they're always OEM. If it was a keyboard, I would buy one off of eBay without hesitation. As long as the keyboard membrane is intact, and you don't suspect anything else is wrong, I will just buy the individually keys. Make sure they come with the two plastic parts that connect the key to the base. With a little patience you can pop keys back in in a few seconds once you've done a few. Most electronics I always try to get OEM, but if your choices are limited and no new parts are sold anymore, you have to go with what's available. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Thanks, I think it might be better to replace the whole keyboard as at least one of the keys no longer has the post where the original key was. Besides... lots of people on here were bashing me about not getting OEM partsso, I thought Id get an OEM keyboard, if it's available. :-) From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dell+inspiron+6400+replacement+key -Jeff Steward On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:31 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Good idea. Next time I think I will buy an OEM replacement battery and do as you suggest. On a related note, I've got an Inspiron 6400 laptop that just came back from the field and it needs a new keyboard as several keys are broken off. Anyone know how to find out the part number for that? I can't find it on Dell's website. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving
Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning
Really? So you'd hire him and have him represent your company then? Actually, disregard that. You're using a PO box. -Original Message- From: gswe...@acts360.com Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:13:17 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Yeah I agree, I am pretty sure everyone on this list has royally fouled up at one point in time, at least he comes to the best group to get answers. Man have some fun with it, life is to serious as it is, and if we don’t support one another what is this group for? Its not like he is rude about anything. Greg Sweers CEO ACTS360.comhttp://www.acts360.com/ P.O. Box 1193 Brandon, FL 33509 813-657-0849 Office 813-758-6850 Cell 813-341-1270 Fax From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Cmon mon; that's uncalled for. Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint On Feb 23, 2011 7:41 PM, Gary Slinger gary.slin...@gmail.com wrote: It absolutely blows my mind that someone employs you in any technical fashion whatsoever. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:01:27 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Yeah... I have an account manager. :-) I emailed him this morning, but gave up too quickly. I really should have waited. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Dell has a lot of stuff that is hard to find on their website. If you have an account team (You should get one if not), just email them a picture of the part and they will give you a quote. I usually refer to the service manual diagrams on their site when I have a part in question, such as this: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/late6400/en/sm/html/fcm.htm#wp 1180289 Hope that helps in the future. Sam -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Ok. Thanks... I've been trying to get away with non-OEM as much as possible, but I’m learning some things you just *gotta* go back to the OEM for. Sometimes I can get away with 3rd party ink for an inkjet, but I found some printers are pretty picky, so I have to get OEM ink for them, as an example. I got a quote back from Dell, and it would have been cheaper to get it from them than to get it from the folks I ended up ordering it from. Guess that'll teach me to be more patient in the future, but I couldn't find it on Dell's website, even with the part number, so... :-) -Original Message- From: Mike Gill [mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning You just need to know what you can and can't get away with for OEM. When it comes to batteries for me, they're always OEM. If it was a keyboard, I would buy one off of eBay without hesitation. As long as the keyboard membrane is intact, and you don't suspect anything else is wrong, I will just buy the individually keys. Make sure they come with the two plastic parts that connect the key to the base. With a little patience you can pop keys back in in a few seconds once you've done a few. Most electronics I always try to get OEM, but if your choices are limited and no new parts are sold anymore, you have to go with what's available. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 5:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning Thanks, I think it might be better to replace the whole keyboard as at least one of the keys no longer has the post where the original key was. Besides... lots of people on here were bashing me about not getting OEM partsso, I thought Id get an OEM keyboard, if it's available. :-) From: Jeff Steward [mailto:jstew...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dell+inspiron+6400+replacement+key -Jeff Steward On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 8:31 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: Good idea. Next time I think I will buy an OEM replacement battery and do as you suggest. On a related note, I've got an Inspiron 6400
