RE: NTSYSADMIN - NEW VENUE - NEW ADMIN
Here's the link to sign up... http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists-2/ -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NTSYSADMIN - NEW VENUE - NEW ADMIN Yes, and possibly. Rod is supposed to either already have received, or will receive, the list of members from here, and once that is received is supposed to subscribe them, but if you haven't been receiving email from the new list, you haven't been moved, and it would be worth your while to go to myitforum.com to subscribe. Kurt On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Kelli Sterley kjsterley.li...@gmail.com wrote: Will the email change that we use? Will we need to resubscribe? On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:49 AM, stu sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: Hi All, The list is moving to myITforum. Rod Trent set this list up, and the correct email for Rod is rodtr...@myitforum.com Thanks everyone for all the years of sharing knowledge, and contributing to the list. NTSYSADMIN will live on at myITforum !! Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: The list status
Google groups? Is that even a listserv? -Original Message- From: Sandy [mailto:san...@knowbe4.com] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: re: The list status Hello Everyone! My name is Sandy Vandebult and I was a long Sunbelter and currently work with Stu at his new company Knowbe4. GoodNews!! GFI has given the list over to Stu and the list will live on! We are looking at moving the list over to Google groups but I am open to any suggestions if anybody knows of a better way to go. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: problem subscription to new list
I've seen this happen for a couple reasons. 1. myITforum.com is being blocked by your email servers. 2. When your sending address is different than your receiving address. Some companies have different domain structure for sending and receiving. Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ http://twitter.com/rodtrent http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: problem subscription to new list Anyone else having issues trying to subscribe to the new list that Rod put up? I send the subscription e-mail, but I've gotten no confirmation back. I've tried 3 times over the last 3 days with no luck. Don't see it getting flagged as junk, and I do get the stuff from ad...@myitforum.com mailto:ad...@myitforum.com without any issues. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.pngimage005.jpg
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Hi, Phil. Stu dropped me an email to make sure you are in the loop. The list has moved to the following location: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ You can find both the NT list and the Exchange list there. From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Stu, Never got a thing. I did just see your message about problems with Google Groups, so now I don't have a clue where we're going. What's the link for the correct list/host? Thanks. Can't do without the list. -Philip Hershey This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. From: s...@knowbe4.com mailto:s...@knowbe4.com [mailto:s...@knowbe4.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:45 AM To: lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: The list?
I saw him posting to Twitter yesterday. So, he's not being quiet everywhere. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? My theory is this: 1) He sent his email a month early by accident, it isn't shutting down until the end of April. 2) He has been busy, and hasn't seen what we have been saying..so he isn't aware we are freaking out. From: Clark, Tommy R [mailto:tommy.r.cl...@saic.com] Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: The list? I am surprised that Stu has been silent through all of this. From: bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of James Kerr Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? Now I have to wonder if the lists were being shutdown at all and if Stu's email was just a ploy to get folks over to his own list. (which he never left instructions on how to do) On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: Pong. Need some popcorn... On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:56 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com mailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Ping? Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher. On May 1, 2013 8:35 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com mailto:scaes...@caesare.com wrote: Hesienberg's 8-Ball says: Uncertain -sc From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com ] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? Is Schrodenger's cat subscribed to the list? On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com mailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote: I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running? No. We're all a figment of your imagination. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
No problem! -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Thanks for doing this for all of us, R! Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 4:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. You can also sign-up using these instructions... 1. Create a new, blank email. 2. Address the email to: comm...@lists.myitforum.com 3. Skip all the way down to the BODY of the new email (leaving the subject line blank) and enter the following: subscribe NTSysADM 4. Send the email. In a few minutes you’ll receive a subscription confirmation back. Save this email, as it contains information on how to manage your subscription to the list. -Original Message- From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I'm having a problem with signing up for the new list. I'm using Windows Live as my email client, and I keep getting error messages each time I click on the second link to the new NTSYSADMIN list. Anybody have any ideas? The message says I'm low on resources, but I don't believe that! There was another message that came up just once stating that I needed to update Windows Live to continue. M. Free -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Rod Trent Done. Thank you. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
Same here. Personally, I prefer email, but we’ve found the split is about 50/50, i.e., 50% prefer email, 50% prefer web based forums. That’s why we keep both. Also, of note, myITforum was recently acquired by Penton Media (WindowsITPro), so there’s a LOT of additional support for the list from a solid, respected organization. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I vote do it. I prefer e-mail to web forum for this stuff. From: rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I can set up a list in a few minutes, just say the word. We already host over 25 lists and have plenty of bandwidth to spare. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Kennedy, Jim Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues The end of the month and allegedly the end of the list is tomorrow. We need a plan B to get back in contact to get this going again if possible. Someone got a blog we can bookmark for new/announcements that would be willing to post anything they hear? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
I can do that. Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ http://twitter.com/rodtrent http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Would you also do one for Exchange ? From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ Rod Trent http://www.myitforum.com/ http://twitter.com/rodtrent http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. Sounds good to me and post the link so we can start over there… Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org ezi...@lifespan.org Work:401-444-9081 This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. From: David Lum [ mailto:david@nwea.org mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I vote do it. I prefer e-mail to web forum for this stuff. From: mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com rodtr...@myitforum.com [ mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I can set up a list in a few minutes, just say the word. We already host over 25 lists and have plenty of bandwidth to spare. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Kennedy, Jim Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues The end of the month and allegedly the end of the list is tomorrow. We need a plan B to get back in contact to get this going again if possible. Someone got a blog we can bookmark for new/announcements that would be willing to post anything they hear? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
You can also sign-up using these instructions... 1. Create a new, blank email. 2. Address the email to: comm...@lists.myitforum.com 3. Skip all the way down to the BODY of the new email (leaving the subject line blank) and enter the following: subscribe NTSysADM 4. Send the email. In a few minutes you’ll receive a subscription confirmation back. Save this email, as it contains information on how to manage your subscription to the list. -Original Message- From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I'm having a problem with signing up for the new list. I'm using Windows Live as my email client, and I keep getting error messages each time I click on the second link to the new NTSYSADMIN list. Anybody have any ideas? The message says I'm low on resources, but I don't believe that! There was another message that came up just once stating that I needed to update Windows Live to continue. M. Free -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Rod Trent Done. Thank you. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.
Nah...it's also on the email list page. Rod Trent -Original Message- From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I was supposed to save that??? Joe Heaton Enterprise Server Support CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1807 13th Street, Suite 201 Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:12 PM To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown. You can also sign-up using these instructions... 1. Create a new, blank email. 2. Address the email to: comm...@lists.myitforum.com 3. Skip all the way down to the BODY of the new email (leaving the subject line blank) and enter the following: subscribe NTSysADM 4. Send the email. In a few minutes you’ll receive a subscription confirmation back. Save this email, as it contains information on how to manage your subscription to the list. -Original Message- From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. I'm having a problem with signing up for the new list. I'm using Windows Live as my email client, and I keep getting error messages each time I click on the second link to the new NTSYSADMIN list. Anybody have any ideas? The message says I'm low on resources, but I don't believe that! There was another message that came up just once stating that I needed to update Windows Live to continue. M. Free -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Done. Link is here: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/ Rod Trent Done. Thank you. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote: Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt. It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days. No checks for me. Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky. You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as unique to me. Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with and see the messages on. Get off my lawn. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
That worked! Brilliant. From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Click your heels together three times and say I wish I were subscribed. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Do we need to do something? Thanks Webster From: s...@knowbe4.com mailto:s...@knowbe4.com [mailto:s...@knowbe4.com mailto:s...@knowbe4.com ] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:45 PM To: lyris.sunbelt-software.com http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
Oh my...that's a lot of work for both the recipient and the sender and definitely not the norm. I guess we're all just doing it wrong. :) I thought it was an email client issue, like you were using Lotus Notes or something. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION
I'm sure there are plenty of places that would gladly host the list for free. It's a valuable resource. If it comes down to that, we could even do it. From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world? Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600 Or build our own? On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See response below... On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon. Then, I realize your response is *under* the original text. Tricky. Is that a Gmail thing? -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com ] Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM, s...@knowbe4.com mailto:s...@knowbe4.com wrote: Hi All, You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which will shut down at the end of this month. GFI will confirm this with a separate message. I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. Warm regards, Stu Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too? You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the subscription info? Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :) Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler? Kurt No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each message. It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons: o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce down and read the original post o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the original post(s). Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- G. Waleed Kavalec -- The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone. - Rod Serling; Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End?
+1000 Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ http://twitter.com/rodtrent http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End? I remember people saying the same thing about IBM back in the day. IBM reinvented itself and is, IMO, stronger (at least net income wise) than before. Net Income trumps any stupid journalist or pundit. Thanks Webster From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End? http://usmarketbuzz.com/msft-microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-will-grow-obso lete-by-2017-gartner-3206# http://usmarketbuzz.com/msft-microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-will-grow-obs olete-by-2017-gartner-3206 Roger Wright ___ You can't believe most of the quotes you read on the internet. - Abraham Lincoln ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.png
RE: Office 365
Using it here. Works great, especially when used with SkyDrive. From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Office 365 Anyone using this service yet? I am thinking about moving my Exchange off to them and getting the Office Pro Plus package? Just wondering about security and other questions but didn't know how to find an unbiased article on Google so far everything I have found is 2 years old and bashing Microsoft for every offering such a thing as cloud based email or apps??? Thanks David ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RT devices?
Same with iPads. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RT devices? RT devices aren't intended to be business devices, so there's no focus on business support options. Not that they can't be used for business, if one is so inclined, but that's not the intended market. ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market. On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com mailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote: The issue I have with managing RT devices is that they have changed the licensing- only offering per user licensing and that there is no system center on premise solution you have to go with a cloud solution. I thought Microsoft's strategy was to offer both an on premise and cloud offering and give the costumer the option From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk ] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? They are able to be managed via System Centre/Intune as far as I'm aware. Tobie From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 20 March 2013 15:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? I'm very fond of GPOs and full application support. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Why is the RT not appropriate for business? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them. So far, they are very happy with them. I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the Pro device and they love them. They prefer them to the iPads. I can't provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working on. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RT devices? I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to their end users. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This message has been scanned by MimeCast on behalf of Freebridge Community Housing and found to be free of viruses and not SPAM. If you have any concerns about the message contents please contact the ICT ServiceDesk. _ http://www.freebridge.org.uk http://twitter.com/Freebridge http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Lynn-United-Kingdom/Freebridge-Communit y-Housing/192690183387?v=box_3 This e-mail (including any attachments), is confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It may contain information covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Do not copy, use or disclose this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure
RE: OT: Career and Social Media
My last two jobs have come about because of social media. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Career and Social Media “With social media you might not have to look for a new job, it might find you” Spot on. Lately I’m always having recruiters and companies reach out to me for hire. I always ask how they find me, and they always say social media or internet presence. I haven’t published my resume anywhere (Heck, hardly even active on LinkedIn and it’s not that up to date. My Facebook is strictly personal – but I do keep a ‘clean’ presence on it). Several great offers have come my way. I take it as a sign the IT hiring is really picking up too. Sam From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Career and Social Media In case you haven’t noticed, privacy is becoming history. The current young generation by and large expects to be able to find out where there friends and family are, where they eat and shop, and where they work, and they also have no problems sharing their own information with people. As these people become older and enter the corporate world, they will expect to know quite a bit about you whether or not your resume is any good, and they will likely influence company rules… The added twist is just by having family on social media, your information becomes public “I went to my dad’s 40th birthday party yesterday, not too far from the house he was born in”. Presto, your age, date and place of birth given up in one sentence by someone else. In many ways I see keeping privacy in the same vein as not having a car or a phone. You can do it, but it takes a concerted effort and a specific lifestyle to pull it off. (Oddly, I didn’t have this view until I went to a lunch/seminar that was all about security yesterday!). I’m sure when those first came out there were people who said “who needs such a thing!”. I went without a smartphone longer than many folks, but to be relevant/competitive in my field it became necessary to get one (although I still turn off location services except for the specific times I need them) and I am better off for it as it saves me a lot of time vs. if I were to be without it. Heck cellphones are now being used to inform different service providers traffic densities, average speeds, etc. so their mapping software can tell you how to avoid traffic. Big brother is here, the difference is it’s not like The Truman Show because the participants are also getting the benefits of said information. With social media you might not have to look for a new job, it might find you. I can see in a few years the conversation being “Remember when we had so send resume’s out? How lame!”. That Dilbert is spot-on whether we like it or not. From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Career and Social Media +1000 I do not have a facebook account, nor any other social media account other than LinkedIn. Work and personal life are as separate as I can make them. Social media is a time stealer and a privacy invader. Kurt On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com mailto:jk.har...@live.com wrote: I am glad I am getting close to the end of my career. I really dislike using things like Facebook for anything more than keeping in touch with family/friends. LinkedIN is about the only social media I use for business. I like to keep the two very separate from each other. Jon _ From: rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT: Career and Social Media Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:49:52 + I can attest to that. My last two jobs have come because social media. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Andrew S. Baker Sent: March 21, 2013 6:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Career and Social Media http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2013-03-21/ This is the new reality, folks. You don't have to embrace it, but to fight it is going to be career limiting . Within 5 years, it will be a major factor in employment... Who knows about you is becoming as important as what you know. -ASB: http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: RT devices?
Why is the RT not appropriate for business? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them. So far, they are very happy with them. I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the Pro device and they love them. They prefer them to the iPads. I can't provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working on. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RT devices? I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to their end users. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RT devices?
Yep.here's a couple resources: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/video/tdbe13-managing-windows-rt-devices- in-the-enterprise.aspx http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/03/14/troubleshooting-guide-for-managi ng-windows-rt-using-configmgr-2012-sp1-and-windows-intune/ From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? They are able to be managed via System Centre/Intune as far as I'm aware. Tobie From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 20 March 2013 15:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? I'm very fond of GPOs and full application support. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Why is the RT not appropriate for business? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them. So far, they are very happy with them. I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the Pro device and they love them. They prefer them to the iPads. I can't provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working on. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RT devices? I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to their end users. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This message has been scanned by MimeCast on behalf of Freebridge Community Housing and found to be free of viruses and not SPAM. If you have any concerns about the message contents please contact the ICT ServiceDesk. _ http://www.freebridge.org.uk http://twitter.com/Freebridge http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Lynn-United-Kingdom/Freebridge-Communit y-Housing/192690183387?v=box_3 This e-mail (including any attachments), is confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It may contain information covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Do not copy, use or disclose this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard copy version. Freebridge Community Housing Ltd is a Charitable Industrial and Provident Society - Reg No IP29744R Registered with the Registered with the Homes Communities Agency - No L4463. VAT Registration Number 860762121 Freebridge Community Housing, Juniper House, Austin Street, Kings Lynn, Norfolk PE30 1DZ _ This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please visit http
RE: RT devices?
Which apps are you finding you actually need on a companion device? Storyline. I have both the RT and the Pro. After using the RT for months and then getting the Pro, I learned to do things differently, and actually in better ways. There's only two apps that I really need the Pro for and that will change soon. I wrote up a comparison between the RT and Pro recently. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/02/21/surface-pro-vs-surface-rt-an-hon est-comparison/ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? I'm very fond of GPOs and full application support. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Why is the RT not appropriate for business? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them. So far, they are very happy with them. I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the Pro device and they love them. They prefer them to the iPads. I can't provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working on. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RT devices? I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to their end users. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RT devices?
Not the same, you mean. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? That is not the level of management provided by GPOs. From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? They are able to be managed via System Centre/Intune as far as I'm aware. Tobie From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: 20 March 2013 15:57 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? I'm very fond of GPOs and full application support. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Why is the RT not appropriate for business? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them. So far, they are very happy with them. I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the Pro device and they love them. They prefer them to the iPads. I can't provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working on. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RT devices? I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to their end users. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This message has been scanned by MimeCast on behalf of Freebridge Community Housing and found to be free of viruses and not SPAM. If you have any concerns about the message contents please contact the ICT ServiceDesk. _ http://www.freebridge.org.uk http://twitter.com/Freebridge http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kings-Lynn-United-Kingdom/Freebridge-Communit y-Housing/192690183387?v=box_3 This e-mail (including any attachments), is confidential and intended only for the use of the addressee(s). It may contain information covered by legal, professional or other privilege. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Do not copy, use or disclose this e-mail. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard copy version. Freebridge Community Housing Ltd is a Charitable Industrial and Provident Society - Reg No IP29744R Registered with the Registered with the Homes Communities Agency - No L4463. VAT Registration Number 860762121 Freebridge Community Housing, Juniper House, Austin Street, Kings Lynn, Norfolk PE30 1DZ _ This email message has been scanned for viruses by Mimecast. Mimecast delivers a complete managed email solution from a single web based platform. For more information please visit http://www.mimecast.com _ ~ Finally, powerful
RE: RT devices?
Now, who's being mean? :) From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RT devices? Did you just call MBS mean? :) Mathematical mean or just plain old ornery mean? Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Subject: RE: RT devices? Not the same, you mean. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Subject: RE: RT devices? That is not the level of management provided by GPOs. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Anyone have experience with System Center Essentials?
You do realize that SCE 2010 EOL is 2014 and they are no longer developing any new versions? From: Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Anyone have experience with System Center Essentials? We use System Center Essentials 2007. I'd like to migrate it to System Center Essentials 2010. We own licenses for that version but it was not purchase with Software Assurance, unfortunately. The server that is running SCE 2007 does not support an upgrade, and I'd prefer to start on a new server anyway. I've read the MS blogs about installing SCE 2010 and migrating from one 2010 server to another, but I can't find anything about migrating from a 2007 server to 2010 server. To keep the client communication going, I know I have to decommission the old server and build the new one with the same FQDN. Beyond that I'm not sure. Anyone have any suggestions? The product is so old there isn't much that I could find on Google/Bing. Thanks ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Lumina 822 phone
For me, initially, it was the form factor. It just feels right in the hand due to the curved back. Fits in your pocket easily. Great for one handed operation. Camera and audio are great. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone What made it a better device in your opinion (Same question to you John)? Some of the reviewers were saying it was better because it was more stylish others were because of audio or camera. Jon _ From: rodtr...@myitforum.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:47:00 + I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead. In my opinion, after testing both, the HTC is a better device. Sent from my Microsoft Surface From: Jon Harris Sent: February 15, 2013 11:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Apps for the most part are pretty low on my list. How is the battery life, any other things you don't like about it? I understand to lengthen the battery life wifi needs to be shutdown which is something I would have done anyway, I would have shut down the bluetooth as well, those devices hanging on my ear just bother me too much. Around here there are too many people that would connect to any wifi that was open or that they could get access to just so they can browse and I don't feel generous enough to let them use my data time. Jon _ From: b...@rolandschorr.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:06:19 + I have one. Haven’t really had any lockup problems – though lately I’ve had a couple of call issues that may or may not have been caused by my Bluetooth earpiece. Overall I like the phone – though it feels like we have to wait quite a while for app updates. Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer Roland Schorr Tower http://www.rolandschorr.com/ www.rolandschorr.com From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Lumina 822 phone Is anyone using this phone on the Verizon network? I am considering it and saw some negative reviews about it locking up on the Verizon site but looking at other review sites no one seems to mention it having that issue. Thank you! Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Petition Requesting Microsoft to Renew Forefront TMG
Do those petitions really work? Sent from Windows Phone 8 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Sent: 2/16/2013 6:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: OT: Petition Requesting Microsoft to Renew Forefront TMG It would be great if a few hundred of you would sign this petition asking for Microsoft to restore Forefront TMG. http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-corp-renew-forefront-tmg-development Thank you! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup to cloud?
There's the private Cloud, which is your own data center, and the public Cloud which is someone else's data center, and then hybrid Cloud which is a mixture of both. Well, and then there's the Adobe Cloud. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/02/14/adobe-ceo-makes-you-hate-adobe-a nd-the-cloud-even-more/ From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? The Cloud is nothing more than someone else's data center. So yes, that is The Cloud. Thanks Webster From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Subject: RE: Backup to cloud? This is where the term the cloud becomes murky, in my opinion. If I'm sending data over a private circuit to a 3rd party data center, is that really the cloud? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup to cloud?
Why would retrieval take that long? Are you talking more about disaster recovery? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup to cloud? Does backup to cloud even matter if the time to retrieve it spans 20+ hours? If I were to consider hosting a clients' backups at my location, where do I go to find what liabilities I need to worry about. Coincidentally the client in mind is a law firm of all places. David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Backup to cloud?
System Center DPM can backup to Windows Azure in realtime. Veeam has a good cloud backup, too. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Backup to cloud? Yep, I am considering backup to the cloud after a backup to disk locally just for disaster recovery sakethen the time doesn't matter as much. I'd still consider a mail recovery site though like postini or something to keep mail going in case of tornado or fire. On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Why would retrieval take that long? Are you talking more about disaster recovery? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup to cloud? Does backup to cloud even matter if the time to retrieve it spans 20+ hours? If I were to consider hosting a clients' backups at my location, where do I go to find what liabilities I need to worry about. Coincidentally the client in mind is a law firm of all places. David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Security Firm Bit9 Hacked, Used to Spread Malware
Especially those that don't use their own software. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Security Firm Bit9 Hacked, Used to Spread Malware Just shows anyone is a target.. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org This electronic message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are reading this message, but are not the intended recipient, nor an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from copying, printing, forwarding or otherwise disseminating this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to the message. Then, delete the message from your computer. Thank you. Description: Description: Lifespan From: Shane Mullins [mailto:tsmulli...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Security Firm Bit9 Hacked, Used to Spread Malware If major security vendors get hacked on a regular basis, then us little guys don't really stand a chance! On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com wrote: Bit9, a company that provides software and network security services to the U.S. government and at least 30 Fortune 100 firms, has suffered an electronic compromise that cuts to the core of its business: helping clients distinguish known safe files from computer viruses and other malicious software. OUCH ! More at: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/02/security-firm-bit9-hacked-used-to-spread- malware/ Warm regards, Stu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: on-premises storage application
A server and Windows Explorer? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: on-premises storage application I have a client that wants something like SkyDrive or DropBox - but they want to host it onsite - no cloud storage. They also want the company that produces the application to be in north America or western Europe. I have googled and binged a bit, and I have some options - but I'd prefer some recommendations. Does anyone here have any that they would be willing to share? Thanks! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Patch management recommendations
I'd take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday's news. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again- symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of your clients needs. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com cid:image001.jpg@01CDF492.11CAAC30 The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM Subject:Patch management recommendations _ I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product. :-) My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without dedicated patch management admins. Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like? Thanks! *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Patch management recommendations
I’m curious. What impressed you about Altiris? I ask because, from what I’ve heard, they are good presenters and good salespeople, but the product itself has really tanked since the Symantec acquisition. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. We had MS come in and give us a presentation on SCCM 2012, and then had Symantec come in for Altiris. Got to say I was impressed by Altiris. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/17/2013 09:09 AM Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations _ I’d take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday’s news. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ From: Christopher Bodnar [ mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of your clients needs. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com cid:image001.jpg@01CDF492.11CAAC30 The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Charlie Kaiser mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org charl...@golden-eagle.org To:NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM Subject:Patch management recommendations _ I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product. :-) My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without dedicated patch management admins. Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like? Thanks! *** Charlie Kaiser mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you
RE: Patch management recommendations
Fixed that for you... -Original Message- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations In Kingman? Wow. Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a failure for many reasons. I work for basically an ADC subnet, and I try to manually touch every machine (about 200) on a regular basis. Obviously that's not practical for everyone anyone. -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [ mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management recommendations I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product. :-) My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without dedicated patch management admins. Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like? Thanks! *** Charlie Kaiser mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Patch management recommendations
Did they approach it that way because you are a 2007 shop? Or, did they take 2012 into consideration for their demo? I say that because, 2012 with SP1 allows less infrastructure, views into the virtual infrastructure, patching for 3rd party apps, and client health (for Windows, Mac, Linux, and Unix) has been greatly improved. The reporting thing, I can agree with. Looks to me like their competitor battle cards need to be updated. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations We didn't bring it in house for a POC, so I can't say from experience, just what we saw at the presentation. We are an SCCM 2007 shop. Some of the things that stood out about the Altiris product: Less infrastructure required Significantly easier and integrated reporting Direct views into virtual infrastructure Built in patching for 3rd party software (Adobe, Java, etc...) Less issues with client agent health Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/17/2013 09:54 AM Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations _ I’m curious. What impressed you about Altiris? I ask because, from what I’ve heard, they are good presenters and good salespeople, but the product itself has really tanked since the Symantec acquisition. From: Christopher Bodnar [ mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. We had MS come in and give us a presentation on SCCM 2012, and then had Symantec come in for Altiris. Got to say I was impressed by Altiris. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/17/2013 09:09 AM Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations _ I’d take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday’s news. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ From: Christopher Bodnar [ mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations Kace Altiris SCCM with SCUP One of these should fit most of your clients needs. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com cid:image001.jpg@01CDF492.11CAAC30 The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Charlie Kaiser mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org charl...@golden-eagle.org To:NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM Subject:Patch management recommendations _ I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size
RE: Patch management recommendations
Well, there's a larger problem then that needs to be addressed. These things should be automated. Patching using ConfigMgr is not that tough, and getting it to work right is not that tough, either. Maybe offer your help to get it working. It'll save you a lot of time and ensure that your endpoints are secure today, instead of having to wait for you to get around to each PC. All of those maintenance tasks and PC reviews can be automated, too. From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Completely false as I'm doing it now and did it in my previous 2 jobs. If I had to wait for my domain admins to finally get it to work right we'd have been several hundred patches behind. The additional advantage, since I'm not in a nice pristine homogenous environment, is a hands on review of what's on the PC, do some maintenance, etc. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Fixed that for you... -Original Message- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations In Kingman? Wow. Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a failure for many reasons. I work for basically an ADC subnet, and I try to manually touch every machine (about 200) on a regular basis. Obviously that's not practical for everyone anyone. -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [ mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management recommendations I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product. :-) My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without dedicated patch management admins. Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like? Thanks! *** Charlie Kaiser mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body
RE: Patch management recommendations
Wow.I feel sorry for you, man. Your life could be a lot easier. Frankly, I'm not surprised MS consulting can't get it working. We were having a discussion about this last week. MCS has about as much time to ramp up on the new products as everyone else, a lot of it has to be done on their own. So, unless you get a top consultant or a real go-getter, you're better off doing it on your own. If you do have problems with their org, let me know and I can escalate. I'd just need to know who you're working with. If you're willing to do that, email me offline. From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Of course there's a larger problem, none of which is within my control. They've been screwing around with SCCM for several years, including using MS (Premier?) consulting. Now they're trying to get 2012 to work. Not worth the effort at this point. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Well, there's a larger problem then that needs to be addressed. These things should be automated. Patching using ConfigMgr is not that tough, and getting it to work right is not that tough, either. Maybe offer your help to get it working. It'll save you a lot of time and ensure that your endpoints are secure today, instead of having to wait for you to get around to each PC. All of those maintenance tasks and PC reviews can be automated, too. From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Completely false as I'm doing it now and did it in my previous 2 jobs. If I had to wait for my domain admins to finally get it to work right we'd have been several hundred patches behind. The additional advantage, since I'm not in a nice pristine homogenous environment, is a hands on review of what's on the PC, do some maintenance, etc. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations Fixed that for you... -Original Message- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations In Kingman? Wow. Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a failure for many reasons. I work for basically an ADC subnet, and I try to manually touch every machine (about 200) on a regular basis. Obviously that's not practical for everyone anyone. -Original Message- From: Charlie Kaiser [ mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Patch management recommendations I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product. :-) My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without dedicated patch management admins. Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like? Thanks! *** Charlie Kaiser mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana
RE: Patch management recommendations
Make sure to add SolarWinds Patch Manager to your list. http://www.solarwinds.com/patch-manager.aspx From: joseph palmieri [mailto:jpalm...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations look at LANDesk security suite (not cheep) it has all the functionality you need and more...only downside is tech support reps look to close trouble ticket without resolving issue --- On Wed, 1/16/13, Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org wrote: From: Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Subject: Patch management recommendations To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 6:03 PM I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10 seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products for a variety of tasks. We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years (used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple. I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product. :-) My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without dedicated patch management admins. Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like? Thanks! *** Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org Kingman, AZ *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC/server management
Ahem...Windows Intune Sent from Windows Phone 8 -Original Message- From: Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com Sent: 1/15/2013 2:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: PC/server management What kind of a footprint does Kace introduce to a system? I have many engineers who are literally “cycle counters” and will notice just about anything installed and start complaining about wasted resources. They run the servers hard and like them lean as possible. The Kace people have been after me to allow them on the engineering servers….. From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PC/server management I just had the Kace rep in my office yesterday afternoon and it seems like a pretty comprehensive product. I am going to check out the Landesk lunch and learn later this month as well. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: Folks, Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at this time). At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great. I am looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional suggestions. At my new job we have System Center Essentials 2007. It's not so good but it is old and I understand that product is EOL. Looking for: patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super important since we already own a product for this). Embedded help desk, even if basic, would be a bonus. This place doesn't have one currently. This would be for about 350 nodes. Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even hosted. As long as it does what I need. Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PC/server management
Just patching? Have you looked at the page today. Rev 4 was just released. Provides everything you'd find in ConfigMgr, except in the Cloud. www.windowsintune.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PC/server management I looked at the Intune page and it seems to focus on patching but not much else. It might do more but Microsoft's web page on it does not give much information. KBox runs as an agent over port 80 or 443 - depends on if you want to use certs. I've ever seen any high utilization from agents, even when running force inventory, patching, app push.I never used it for OS push or imaging so I can't speak to that. Tell your engineers to give it a try.. Or do they prefer to manually patch everything on those servers? From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PC/server management Hey Rod, how are things? Does intune give you the ability to do lifecycle management? On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Ahem...Windows Intune Sent from Windows Phone 8 _ From: Mathew Shember mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com Sent: 1/15/2013 2:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: PC/server management What kind of a footprint does Kace introduce to a system? I have many engineers who are literally cycle counters and will notice just about anything installed and start complaining about wasted resources. They run the servers hard and like them lean as possible. The Kace people have been after me to allow them on the engineering servers... From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PC/server management I just had the Kace rep in my office yesterday afternoon and it seems like a pretty comprehensive product. I am going to check out the Landesk lunch and learn later this month as well. On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: Folks, Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at this time). At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great. I am looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional suggestions. At my new job we have System Center Essentials 2007. It's not so good but it is old and I understand that product is EOL. Looking for: patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super important since we already own a product for this). Embedded help desk, even if basic, would be a bonus. This place doesn't have one currently. This would be for about 350 nodes. Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even hosted. As long as it does what I need. Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: PC/server management
Windows Intune? From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: PC/server management Folks, Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at this time). At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great. I am looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional suggestions. At my new job we have System Center Essentials 2007. It's not so good but it is old and I understand that product is EOL. Looking for: patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super important since we already own a product for this). Embedded help desk, even if basic, would be a bonus. This place doesn't have one currently. This would be for about 350 nodes. Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even hosted. As long as it does what I need. Thanks, Tom ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: TechEd vs TechMentor
You can get that type of time with the presenters at TechEd, too. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor One more thing I would add about Tech Mentor is that it's muchmuch... smaller than TechEd. So the size of the audiences is less intimidating. This also gives you more face time with the instructors for one-on-one discussions, if that is something that might interest you. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:01/09/2013 08:30 AM Subject:RE: TechEd vs TechMentor _ I have attended TechMentor like 6 times now. I always get great information from the tracks I choose. I use SQL, Exchange, Cisco ASA, Cisco IOS, Ironports, LogRhythm SIEM product, Windows 2003,2008 and Windows XP and 7. Active Directory at 2008 R2 level with TrendMicro for Antivirus. So this is good for me. I have not ever looked at TechEd, mostly because I thought it was for educators and trainers more the System Admins like us. After reading some of the responses I will look at Tech Ed and see if it would fit for me. I am really biased on TechMentor though because I take their ideas bounce them off this list and my Auditors and then implement my own creative ideas from there. But without the starting place I would be more lost than I seem with I post…. Hope that helps a little.? From: Damien Solodow [ mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Posted At: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:14 PM Posted To: itli...@imcu.com Conversation: TechEd vs TechMentor Subject: TechEd vs TechMentor It looks like I might be able to make one of these for the first time. Any advice on which is the better/more useful event? Are they about the same price for registration normally (TechEd registration isn’t open yet to check)? DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE 500 North Meridian St Suite 500 Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213 http://www.harrison.edu/ www.harrison.edu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: TechEd vs TechMentor
Which apps do you deal with the most? From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 5:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: TechEd vs TechMentor It looks like I might be able to make one of these for the first time. Any advice on which is the better/more useful event? Are they about the same price for registration normally (TechEd registration isn't open yet to check)? DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE 500 North Meridian St Suite 500 Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213 http://www.harrison.edu/ www.harrison.edu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: TechEd vs TechMentor
Keep in mind.TechEd registration has usually opened by now, well, actually they leave it open all year long. From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 5:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor Good to know. J What has TechEd pricing been like? DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 5:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor I have to agree with Webster, I would side with Tech Ed, especially when you go to the whiteboard sessions in which you can draw out your solutions with MVP's and other folks that are SME's on their particular areas. I remember a few years ago going over a IIS 7.0 design and one of the M$ folks basically told me they just setup something like it just a few months ago. I was pretty impressed. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 5:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor You will get nothing on the last two at either conference. IMO, TechMentor is for more Beginner to Intermediate level folk. The one I went to in August was an anomaly. It was at MS HQ and most sessions were extremely technical. TechEd runs the range from Beginner to Advanced but the average is Intermediate. Thanks Webster From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor Windows Server, Exchange, SQL, PowerShell, VMware vCloud, Citrix XenApp. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor Which apps do you deal with the most? From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Subject: TechEd vs TechMentor It looks like I might be able to make one of these for the first time. Any advice on which is the better/more useful event? Are they about the same price for registration normally (TechEd registration isn't open yet to check)? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...
It's clear.keyboard is extra. Both versions will both include a Surface pen with Palm Block technology and include the ability to use a Touch Cover or Type Cover (sold separately). Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ myITSMButton http://twitter.com/rodtrent TwitterButton http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent Facebookbutton http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 LinkedInButton From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... I was under the impression that it included the touch keyboard, just like RT. But it isn't clear from the announcement or the website. The price is basically iPad + Windows Pro. It's higher than I wanted, but I am not surprised. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced... This is my take on it: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8 -pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ However, I'd be interested in your take on it. Is it priced right? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.png
RE: Window 8 on your PC
You can also customize that menu http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/26/customizing-the-power-users-task s-menu-in-windows-8/ From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Just move your mouse to bottom left and you will get a Start button of sorts, which of course brings you back to the new UI where you can see all of your apps (what, you mean you use legacy ones!?). Quick launch and desktop shortcuts for speed. Alternatively top right with mouse to Charms menu and search applications. Neither way quite the same, but if you really dont want to touch the keyboard From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: 21 November 2012 17:31 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC I know thousands of users who very rarely use the keyboard. Especially for starting apps. Having to learn to utilize it after 17 years is something of a pain for those unaccustomed to it. On 21 November 2012 17:03, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Hit the Start button on the keyboard, and just start typing the name of the app. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search works very well but working on the desktop how do I get to my programs with no Start button? Bing gives me now aswers. Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to be shut off. Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings) How enlightening! Weve gotten so used to the scenario where we couldnt use the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems weird. What? I can use the devices power button to turn the Windows device off? Thats CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device (whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings). This wont work in some environments where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking back up take my machines on average 2 seconds. Tim From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC J Im running all three plus a desktop. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Keep the Win 8 info coming! Ive been tasked with kicking it around in our environment. Laptop, Surface and a phone. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI), you practically run in desktop mode anyway. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys
RE: windows phone 8
Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
RE: windows phone 8
Windows Phone is available on Verizon, too. Id never go WP8 unless it was available on Verizon. Not wanting to trade one woe for another. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: windows phone 8 I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking forward to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with Verizon is up. ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: windows phone 8
Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want. But, to tell you the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc. Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing. I've been down just about every tablet/phone road. Touchpad, Android, iOS. It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8 interface makes you *want* to use it. It's really hard to describe. Windows 8 UI makes iOS and Android feel old and tired. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. I'm curious: What's liberating? I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS. What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:14:38 -0800 Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ** ** WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy
RE: windows phone 8
I had the new Razr Maxx for over 90 days, and they allowed me to trade it in for the HTC 8x. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Fwiw I have often gotten upgrades from them before the contract is up. I have been successful as much as 5 months ahead of time. They have a system to mark valued customers based on how long you have been there, how much you spend, how much trouble you have been and how quickly you pay your bill. Sometimes you have to call back two or three times. Also early in the week is better according to my sources. Sunday evening or Monday morning. I will be calling them this weekend to get my Note 2. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: windows phone 8 I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking forward to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with Verizon is up. ASB http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com wrote: I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE ~ Finally
RE: windows phone 8
We know that all companies track for various reasons. However, Google tracks for more nefarious reasons. Number 1: they make money off of tracking you. Number 2: do some research on Google's ties to the US gov't. Apple and Microsoft may track you, but their revenue stream is quite a bit different. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: windows phone 8 And you don't think (MS|Apple|Whomever) is tracking you? Well if the WP8 interface is the same as the Window 8 RT interface, I'll be less than enthusiastic. I guess I'll have to try one out to be sure. --Matt Ross On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want. But, to tell you the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc. Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing. I've been down just about every tablet/phone road. Touchpad, Android, iOS. It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8 interface makes you *want* to use it. It's really hard to describe. Windows 8 UI makes iOS and Android feel old and tired. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. I'm curious: What's liberating? I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS. What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:14:38 -0800 Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Agreed, on not missing Android. I've been using Android on phone and tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices. I feel liberated. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later. I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life. Tim -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business
RE: windows phone 8
I'm digging the 8x. Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off. -Original Message- From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Just had a look at the two together. Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO. I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the HTC route ... -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin WARNING: The information in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee, you must not use, copy or disclose this email (including any attachments) or the information in it save to the named addressee nor take any action in reliance on it. If you receive this email or any attachments in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete the same and any copies. CLS Services Ltd × Registered in England No 4132704 × Registered Office: Exchange Tower × One Harbour Exchange Square × London E14 9GE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Window 8 on your PC
Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to be shut off. Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings) How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems weird. What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device off? That's CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make. From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device (whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking back up take my machines on average 2 seconds. Tim From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC J I'm running all three - plus a desktop. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our environment. Laptop, Surface and a phone. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI), you practically run in desktop mode anyway. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
RE: Window 8 on your PC
Hit the Start button on the keyboard, and just start typing the name of the app. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search works very well but working on the desktop how do I get to my programs with no Start button? Bing gives me now aswers. Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to be shut off. Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings) How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems weird. What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device off? That's CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make. From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device (whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking back up take my machines on average 2 seconds. Tim From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC J I'm running all three - plus a desktop. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our environment. Laptop, Surface and a phone. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI), you practically run in desktop mode anyway. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution
RE: Window 8 on your PC
Hit the Windows key, type a single letter. Apps is the first area to come up. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Hit the windows key and use your mouse to look through all Apps. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC But if you don't know the name of the Application and you would like to browse the installed Applications, can't that be done? Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Hit the Start button on the keyboard, and just start typing the name of the app. From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search works very well but working on the desktop how do I get to my programs with no Start button? Bing gives me now aswers. Stefan On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to be shut off. Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond? From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings) How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems weird. What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device off? That's CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make. From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device (whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking back up take my machines on average 2 seconds. Tim From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC J I'm running all three - plus a desktop. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our environment. Laptop, Surface and a phone. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI), you practically run in desktop mode anyway. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: Window 8 on your PC
J I'm running all three - plus a desktop. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our environment. Laptop, Surface and a phone. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI), you practically run in desktop mode anyway. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: Window 8 on your PC
I haven't done any modifications, except adding a Shutdown tile: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/20/make-shutting-down-windows-8-les s-annoying/ I work in desktop mode the majority of the time on the desktop and laptop, and just have my frequent apps lined up and pinned along the taskbar. From: Stephen Holtz [mailto:ste...@addisonreserve.cc] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC Playing around as is. I already configured desktop mode to be like win7 without any add-ons. Stephen L. Holtz, MCSE, MCT Director of Information Technology Addison Reserve Country Club 7201 Addison Reserve Blvd. Delray Beach, Fl. 33446 Ph: 561-455-1220 Cell: 561-441-0646 www.addisonreserve.cc http://www.addisonreserve.cc/ ARLogoPlatinumClub Proudly recognized as a 5-Star Platinum Club of America. This e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, and any attachments thereto, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by replying to this message and permanently delete the original and any copy of this e-mail and any printout thereof. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.jpg
RE: Window 8 on your PC
There is talk that the Start button will be coming back in a future update. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC We won't be deploying it this school year, that's for sure. It's just too late and we would get a lot of negative feedback. Also we tend to hold off on such deployments until the product has a little shake-down time and we get a break to do upgrades. Personally, I'm not looking forward to 8 on the desktop in a lab environment. One nitpick of my own: It's very difficult to log off, which is something every 7-18 year old in our schools will have to do. While some know that you can quickly find a logout with Ctrl-Alt-Del, most don't. Last, most of the software run by our users aren't in the DCIM* interface. So really, there isn't a feature that is yet pushing us to Win8 yet. I have seen start-button replacements, like Start8, but we like to go with the Officially supported versions of things if we can. Thus, if Microsoft makes it an option to stick people to the Desktop and give them a way to launch programs/logoff, I'll give it another try. (* DCIM - Don't call it Metro) --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:07:38 -0800 Subject: Window 8 on your PC Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it as-is and learning new tricks? David Lum Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: windows phone 8
Lots of folks complaining about it. Also complaining of reboots and hung screens. The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases. Mine just showed up an hour or so ago. -Original Message- From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line... Original Message Subject: Re: windows phone 8 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com It does? Mine's been lasting a day or two. I have turned off NFC because well, I have no NFC devices. I also avoid ad based apps, just purchased. My wife's been lasting as well. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: windows phone 8
Uhhh…Blackberry has been beat on enterprise email for a few years. From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I am also thinking about the Nokia 920. The reviews look good. I am a Blackberry user and have been for years, you cannot beat them for enterprise mail. So one thing that use a lot is Exchange Notes, and it turns out that Microsoft does not sync Notes. This is also the case for iPhone and android, which is why I was looking at the Windows Phone. I find it hard to believe that MS is not fully using ActiveSync on their device. I am not alone, as this seems to be a be issue with Blackberry convertees. So far I have not been able to find a way to get Notes on the phone without having to move them to OneNote, which I do not want to separate that out. And the consumer side of me is hesitant on a Windows Phone because of lack of apps. I not one that wants much in the way of apps but the key areas I want are not there. I use several banks and none of them have full apps like on iPhone and android; I have Comcast and they have nothing on Windows phone; and I have a young son that loves Disney and they only have apps on iPhone. From the app side, iPhone has it all, but I am doing my best to resist drinking the Kool-Aid. From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: windows phone 8 I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: windows phone 8 Thinking about getting the nokia 920. Anyone have any reasons they’d like to share about why or why not to get this device. Also, real world how is the app situation for winphone 8? Anything you really miss from the ios or android world of apps and features? All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make or break a phone for me. Thanks. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpg
RE: windows phone 8
:) Passwords. And, really, Exchange notes were replaced by OneNote long ago. Now, with WP8 and Win8/RT it makes more sense to use OneNote with SkyDrive. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: windows phone 8 As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:09:43 -0800 Subject: Re: windows phone 8 I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it. For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . . Stefan On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote: I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.** ** ** ** Regards, * * *Don Guyer** **Catholic Health East - Information Technology* Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: *dgu...@che.org* Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 *For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.* [image: Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240] ** ** *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8 ** ** Thinking about getting the nokia 920. Anyone have any reasons they’d like to share about why or why not to get this device. Also, real world how is the app situation for winphone 8? Anything you really miss from the ios or android world of apps and features? All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make or break a phone for me. Thanks. Bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Stefan Jafs ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Instant Messaging replacement
Skype? Even Microsoft is moving away from Messenger to Skype. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Instant Messaging replacement Every few days I have to reinstall it because the database becomes corrupt. The biggest issue is that I can set an ldap ou but it won't traverse the directory. There were posts on how to do that but I never could get that to work reliably. On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: I'm curios to hear what stability problems you were having with Openfire. I have not used it for a few years, but it seemed quite stable to me. What would go wrong? --Matt Ross On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: We currently use OpenFire for the back-end Instant Messaging. It is free, but not particularly stable and I spend more time on it than I would prefer. I am looking for alternatives. I'd like something that can run on Windows, Andriod, and IOS devices. Anyone have any suggestions other than Lync (I'm already looking at that one). In-house or hosted, does not matter as long as it integrates with AD. Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -= ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Instant Messaging replacement
Skype has video capability, but not required. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Instant Messaging replacement I thought Skype was more video focused? From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Instant Messaging replacement Skype? Even Microsoft is moving away from Messenger to Skype. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Instant Messaging replacement Every few days I have to reinstall it because the database becomes corrupt. The biggest issue is that I can set an ldap ou but it won't traverse the directory. There were posts on how to do that but I never could get that to work reliably. On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: I'm curios to hear what stability problems you were having with Openfire. I have not used it for a few years, but it seemed quite stable to me. What would go wrong? --Matt Ross On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote: We currently use OpenFire for the back-end Instant Messaging. It is free, but not particularly stable and I spend more time on it than I would prefer. I am looking for alternatives. I'd like something that can run on Windows, Andriod, and IOS devices. Anyone have any suggestions other than Lync (I'm already looking at that one). In-house or hosted, does not matter as long as it integrates with AD. Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -= ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: New Surface RT reviews
He's from the future. -Original Message- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews I like the one comment below the review about liking it because you can use it on your lap. Yeah, that's unprecedented... Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: New Surface RT reviews I found it quite useful. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: The link: http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/jackmadden/archive/2012/10/29/i-spent -the-weekend-with-a-microsoft-surface-rt-tablet-here-s-my-review.aspx From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: New Surface RT reviews Jack Madden did a decent review over on BrianMadden.com. Sadly I am too tired to post a link as I am worn out from community participation. Still trying to get used to it, hats off to Web, MBS et al who do it almost constantly ---Blackberried From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:53:49 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews More to come. J There's simply too much about this thing to cover it in a single post. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews For those that are interested Rod Trent has posted his review of his Surface at http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/10/31/my-review-the-microsoft-su rface-rt/ If you are interested and look on the site you will find other interesting articles as he was setting up his machine. Thank you Rod! Jon From: r...@finnesey.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:39:56 + Is POP3 still widely used? I would like most mail systems would support IMAP now a days. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews Doesn't support POP3, though. One gotcha if you're going to sync a Windows 8 PC with your Microsoft Surface: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/10/26/beware-the-windows-8-to-wi ndows-rt-profile-sync/ From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews The integrated Mail and Calendar apps seem pretty nice for a touchpad type scenario. Their certainly leaps and bounds better than the iPad equivalents Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews I got one tonight. I really like it I just wish it included Outlook. Cheers Ryan From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: New Surface RT reviews Has anyone on the list gotten one of the new Surface RT machines and had time to actually play with it. I need to replace my wife's laptop and for what she does 99% of the time I think this would be a good fit. I would prefer to hear from people I know not some magazine reviewer which gets paid for their opinion. Thanks a lot, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE
RE: New Surface RT reviews
More on that: http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-office-for-windows-rt-how-to-move-to-a-commer cial-use-license-705893/ -Original Message- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: New Surface RT reviews One thing bugs me. The Office apps that come with the RT includes language that says they're not for commercial use. Anyone else bugged by this? On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: More to come. J There's simply too much about this thing to cover it in a single post. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews For those that are interested Rod Trent has posted his review of his Surface at http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/10/31/my-review-the-microsoft-su rface-rt/ If you are interested and look on the site you will find other interesting articles as he was setting up his machine. Thank you Rod! Jon From: r...@finnesey.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:39:56 + Is POP3 still widely used? I would like most mail systems would support IMAP now a days. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews Doesn't support POP3, though. One gotcha if you're going to sync a Windows 8 PC with your Microsoft Surface: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/10/26/beware-the-windows-8-to-wi ndows-rt-profile-sync/ From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews The integrated Mail and Calendar apps seem pretty nice for a touchpad type scenario. Their certainly leaps and bounds better than the iPad equivalents Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews I got one tonight. I really like it I just wish it included Outlook. Cheers Ryan From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: New Surface RT reviews Has anyone on the list gotten one of the new Surface RT machines and had time to actually play with it. I need to replace my wife's laptop and for what she does 99% of the time I think this would be a good fit. I would prefer to hear from people I know not some magazine reviewer which gets paid for their opinion. Thanks a lot, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE
RE: DDOS Attacks continue targeting Tobacco Industry
They're getting smoked. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: DDOS Attacks continue targeting Tobacco Industry From DHS, if any of your companies or associates are on the list, I would assume you are going to be seeing more attacks coming up. PASTEBIN | #1 paste tool since 2002 create new pastetoolsapiarchivefaq PASTEBIN create new paste trending pastes sign uploginmy alertsmy settingsmy profile Public Pastes Untitled 0 sec agoUntitled 0 sec agoUntitled 1 sec agoUntitled 5 sec agoUntitled 6 sec agoUntitled 10 sec agoUntitled 11 sec agoUntitled 11 sec ago UntitledBy: a guest on Oct 15th, 2012 | syntax: None | size: 5.74 KB | hits: 121 | expires: Neverdownload | raw | embed | report abuse Copied 1.#OpGr0wHous3 2. 3.It has come to our attention that tobacco agencies/tobacco company's have been feeding fuel to the fire as far as keeping this safe plant we know and love called cannabis illegal for years. It is our time now to show them who is the boss and that we are not afraid to show action. This is NOT A THREAT! It's a promise! We are asking all anonymous hacktivists to help join the party! 4. 5.There will be 10 days of DDoS attacks on 10 different tobacco sites/agencies. Starting October 18th 2012 -- October 27th 2012. 6.Each day we will be attacking a new site. 7. 8.Every night at 8:00pm EST (Eastern Standard Time) We will Fire our Laz0rs towards a specific site/agency. Check down below for more details on attack dates. 9. 10.**IMPORTANT** 11.If you do plan on helping with the attack, please make sure you are using a VPN make sure your DNS is not leaking when DDoSing!!! 12. 13.DO NOT USE LOIC!!! 14.Use HOIC and the WebHive!!! 15. 16.Also HOIC is pointless without booster scripts so please use a booster script for the specific site we are attacking!!! (Links Below) 17. 18.~~ 19.**How To Use HOIC** 20. 21.If your using an older computer with little ram or weak processors. Set the thread count for 2 or 3. 22. 23.If you are using a newer computer with a good amount of ram and processors. Set the thread count for 4 or 5. 24. 25.~~ 26.**DNS Leak Check** 27.Once you have set up your VPN. Go to the DNS Leak Checker Link down below and check to see if your DNS is leaking. If you see anything that has your ISP (Internet Service Provider) then your DNS IS LEAKING!!! (Which can be very bad!!) 28. 29.If you DO NOT see anything with your ISP then your DNS is NOT Leaking! (Which is good!!) 30.~~ 31.**How to use HOIC Booster Scripts** 32. 33.Just copy and paste the code into any text editor an save it as a .hoic file. 34.(You can name the booster whatever you want as long as it is a .hoic extension!!) 35. 36.Then take the booster script an drag it into the same folder HOIC is in. 37. 38.Then when you are ready to attack the a specific site. Find the booster meant for that specific site an you should be set to fire! 39. 40.~~ 41.Tools Goodies 42. 43.Here's a bunch of links for tools for the attack and TuTs as well as the WebHive URL. 44. 45.**(HOIC download link is in the Tools Goodies paste)** 46. 47.Tools Goodies: http://pastebin.com/hRbrhKyd 48. 49.VPN TuT/Download: http://pastebin.com/mYZRpQ1A 50. 51.WebHive: http://pastehtml.com/view/cdvr011a5.html 52. 53.WebHive TuT: http://pastebin.com/BbEfifwA 54. 55.DNS Leak Checker: http://www.dnsleaktest.com/ 56. 57.~~ 58.**ATTACK DATES!!!** 59. 60.October 18th: http://www.camel.com/ 61. 62.October 19th: http://www.lm.com/ 63. 64.October 20th: http://www.marlboro.com/ 65. 66.October 21st: http://www.newport-pleasure.com/ 67. 68.October 22nd: http://www.rjrt.com/ 69. 70.October 23rd: http://www.altria.com/ 71. 72.October 24th: http://philipmorrisusa.com/ 73. 74.October 25th: http://pmi.com/ 75. 76.October 26th: http://www.johnmiddletonco.com/ 77. 78.October 27th: http://www.lorillard.com/ 79. 80.~~ 81.HOIC Booster Scripts 82. 83.Altria Booster: http://pastebin.com/Zx5Gqu6E 84. 85.Camel Booster: http://pastebin.com/QbDYxHSR 86. 87.JohnMiddleton Booster: http://pastebin.com/fibSqGKt 88. 89.LM Booster: http://pastebin.com/ZV62sgzj 90. 91.Lorillard Booster: http://pastebin.com/fpybW7NV 92. 93.Marlboro Booster: http://pastebin.com/X09p2tbA 94. 95.Newport Booster: http://pastebin.com/FgCVYU0F 96. 97.PhilipMorris USA Booster: http://pastebin.com/Nnn8zvXA 98. 99.PhilipMorris International Booster: http://pastebin.com/r02ZBiPz 100. 101.RJRT Booster: http://pastebin.com/YnaTsJCa 102.~~ 103.**WebHive Request URLs** 104. 105.*Camel* 106.Image URL:
RE: My kind of software license agreement!
The “yet” part should scare you. You start using the program, they throw any amount of crazy stuff in the ULA when it’s done—you’ve just lost your house and first born. From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: My kind of software license agreement! I take it you didn't click on Next, because otherwise I think the universe would implode, or something like that. Kurt On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Inline image 1 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.png
Re: Record Skype session?
Snagit Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Hi Folks, My wife is a college professor who wants to record a Skype session between her and one of her grad students. The student is off state, and my wife wants to use the recording later in one of her classes. I see a variety of methods to do this. Anyone have any suggestions for something that's pretty easy and easy to play back? Thanks Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Sent from Kaiten Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection
Tell Kent I said, hey when you see him. From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection I don't have any problems per se with how they work, it's just that the workflow is much more open-ended than wsus is, which makes you plan a bit more how you want to handle them. Saw a recommendation from an MS blog but even that didn't give a straight answer. Also, I'm going to train with Kent Agerlund, a CM MVP next week, so I'm planning to get as many recommendations as I can during those 3 days. -Anders On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Heaton, Joseph@DFG jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: What difficulties are you running into with Software Updates? Joe Heaton ITB - Enterprise Server Support From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:57 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection No, you cant push definition updates through another wsus than the one systems are using. You have to have the updates unmanaged (clients download best effort). The question I answered was about SQL and site systems coexisting - my Endpoint Protection installation is still at the testing stage. Until I get the SUP part done, I won't consider deploying Endpoint Protection. To be honest I find Software Updates the hardest part of implementing SCCM. Not having any experience with previous versions, other than No way I'm doing that, was it always thus? -Anders On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Same server. I have my other wsus install coexisting for now. SP1 will support bringing in an existing wsus server. RTM requires that you use an unconfigured wsus installation. No problem, I actually want to punt the old one anyway. For me, separate SQL means another VM which means another OS overhead. Yea, I thought about the license after and it seems setup wants it local anyway, funny in a single server deployment it omits to remove the port warning for sql. You mentioned your original wsus server is still up, so without any local wsus config for the sccm instance (as clients still point to their original wsus server) I suppose the policy source definition simply needs to be set to sccm server or url for example, then clients can happily use the existing wsus server for os updates etc? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: IE fix available now...
Yep.that's what it says. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IE fix available now... Out of cycle release will be Friday from what I heard. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: IE fix available now... http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/09/19/internet-explorer-exploited-vuln erability-fix-is-available-now/ Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ Description: myITSMButton http://twitter.com/rodtrent Description: TwitterButton http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent Description: Facebookbutton http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 Description: LinkedInButton ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.png
RE: IE fix available now...
Based on the identified attack landscape: We have analyzed the targeted attack samples that attempt to exploit this vulnerability. All real attacks we have seen are targeting only 32-bit versions of Internet Explorer and rely on third-party browser plugins to either perform efficient heap-spray in memory and/or to bypass the built-in mitigations of Windows Vista and 7 such as DEP and ASLR. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IE fix available now... Am I missing something, where is the 64 bit version. For computers that are running 64-bit operating systems, the following Fix it solution only applies to 32-bit versions of Internet Explorer. From: Candee [mailto:can...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IE fix available now... Thanks Rod!! On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/09/19/internet-explorer-exploited-vuln erability-fix-is-available-now/ Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ Description: Description: myITSMButton http://twitter.com/rodtrent Description: Description: TwitterButton http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent Description: Description: Facebookbutton http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 Description: Description: LinkedInButton ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.png
RE: IE fix available now...
Seems to also be related to specific plug-ins, but Microsoft doesn't say which one/ones. Maybe those plug-ins are only 32bit. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IE fix available now... My guess is that with the hugely increased address space of a 64bit process, randomly poking at the heap in question is simply not efficient. Cheers Ken From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 11:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IE fix available now... Right, but if I were a bad guy I would be changing my tactics right now to target 64 bit. Certainly in IE that is a smaller number of targets but the threat is still the same for those that use 64 bit IE. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IE fix available now... Based on the identified attack landscape: We have analyzed the targeted attack samples that attempt to exploit this vulnerability. All real attacks we have seen are targeting only 32-bit versions of Internet Explorer and rely on third-party browser plugins to either perform efficient heap-spray in memory and/or to bypass the built-in mitigations of Windows Vista and 7 such as DEP and ASLR. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: IE fix available now... Am I missing something, where is the 64 bit version. For computers that are running 64-bit operating systems, the following Fix it solution only applies to 32-bit versions of Internet Explorer. From: Candee [mailto:can...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: IE fix available now... Thanks Rod!! On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/09/19/internet-explorer-exploited-vuln erability-fix-is-available-now/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Personal IT Blog?
Best tips: Write well and write professionally. Remember that Internet content is forever and lives in cache permanently. Don't write something that could come back to bite you 10 years from now. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Personal IT Blog? Yes, that can be quite the experience. :) Another cool thing is when a posting to a blog opens the doors to other writing or implementation opportunities. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: As do I. And occasionally, so has Microsoft. J From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Personal IT Blog? I reference my own stuff as authoritative :-) ---Blackberried _ From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:08:13 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Personal IT Blog? I mentioned this to ASB last week but what I find really weird is seeing my stuff referenced as an authoritative source! That is just plain freaky. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: Re: Personal IT Blog? It's very handy for reference. But I'd recommend making sure you research your articles well if you're putting together any how-tos, readers on the Internet tend to seize on any inconsistencies pretty quickly. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection
Awesome solution, particularly if you're also using ConfigMgr 2012. Yeah...Microsoft has never been one to name anything properly. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection Hey Guys. I'm looking at System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection (What a mouthful). Anybody using this? Anybody like/dislike it compared to other solutions? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
IE fix available now...
http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/09/19/internet-explorer-exploited-vuln erability-fix-is-available-now/ http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ Rod Trent http://www.myitforum.com/ Description: myITSMButton http://twitter.com/rodtrent Description: TwitterButton http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent Description: Facebookbutton http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 Description: LinkedInButton ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.pngimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.png
RE: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - MS response
Listed in the non-affected list. Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ http://www.myitforum.com/ Description: myITSMButton http://twitter.com/rodtrent Description: TwitterButton http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent Description: Facebookbutton http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 Description: LinkedInButton From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - MS response Lots of default mitigations. I wonder if they've actually testing IE10... Their response is somewhat ambiguous on that point. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market. On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:08 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: MS's response: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/advisory/2757760 From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld Looks like a good night to get around to installing EMET for us. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld IE 7-9 are vulnerable.. I wonder if this is why I see such an uptick in Zero-Access lately. Z Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network + Security Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231367/Hackers_exploit_new_IE_zero_d ay_vulnerability?source=rss_latest_content http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9231367/Hackers_exploit_new_IE_zero_ day_vulnerability?source=rss_latest_contentutm_source=feedburnerutm_medium =feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+computerworld%2Fnews%2Ffeed+%28Latest+from+Comput erworld%29 utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+computerworld%2F news%2Ffeed+%28Latest+from+Computerworld%29 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadminimage001.jpgimage002.pngimage003.pngimage004.pngimage005.png
RE: Death of the Desktops?
These initiatives, death of the desktop, cloud, BYOD, etc., etc. are just vendors trying to find new ways to make money. For desktops, in this case, the margins are so slim now, no one is making any money. Look at what Dell is doing with the acquisition of Quest. They have long been a hardware company but are trying hard to move into software, where actual money can be made. -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? I agree with Greg. I think there's always (at least for the foreseeable future) going to be a role for desktop machines though I think SOME desktop clients are going to be replaced with docked mobile devices. It may be that 10 years from now most of us are using some sort of tablet that, as Greg suggests, slips into a docking station with a real keyboard and large monitor(s). Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com -Original Message- From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? The desktop isn’t going anywhere really, it's just evolving. What will probably fade out (except for high-end needs) is the dedicated non-mobile desktop pc. I can easily see were your tablet\phone\whatever has enough processing and graphic power to be sitting in a dock in the office, with full keyboard and mouse support, and then is lifted out and taken with you on the go. There will always be room for the places that have users that do not need this (Call centers, retail, etc) so it never will truly die out. -Greg -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Death of the Desktops? Spreadsheets creation and data entry, page layout, photo processing, writing, presentation creation - those and more are far more difficult on anything without a keyboard and mouse. Kurt On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you imagine writing technical documents or doing CAD on a tablet? Sure the percentages may change, but the desktop will not go away anytime soon. It might run on a thin client, but there's still a place for a desktop - even if virtual. Pundits have been predicting things like the death of Citrix and the year of the Linux desktop for a long while. I haven't noticed either of them happening. YMMV, IMO, etc. ---Blackberried From: Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:40:41 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Death of the Desktops? There are a number of pundits pushing the notion that desktop computing is facing certain death, and especially for desktop computers as we've known them up to now. Indeed, there are more portable offerings available than desktop machine options, but with a higher price/performance/feature ratio. I'm not sure I buy it, especially for many business environments where access to legacy apps is critical. But it does give me something to consider as we face our annual equipment refresh cycle. What are your thoughts? Roger Wright ___ If I could choose any way to destroy the world, I'd delete Google. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Death of the Desktops?
I see traditional desktops being replaced by a tablet that docks, giving you access to multiple monitors, peripherals, etc. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 3:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? So would that be the laptops getting replaced with tablets and desktops stay largely the same? -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? I agree with Greg. I think there's always (at least for the foreseeable future) going to be a role for desktop machines though I think SOME desktop clients are going to be replaced with docked mobile devices. It may be that 10 years from now most of us are using some sort of tablet that, as Greg suggests, slips into a docking station with a real keyboard and large monitor(s). Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer __ Roland Schorr Tower www.rolandschorr.com -Original Message- From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? The desktop isn’t going anywhere really, it's just evolving. What will probably fade out (except for high-end needs) is the dedicated non-mobile desktop pc. I can easily see were your tablet\phone\whatever has enough processing and graphic power to be sitting in a dock in the office, with full keyboard and mouse support, and then is lifted out and taken with you on the go. There will always be room for the places that have users that do not need this (Call centers, retail, etc) so it never will truly die out. -Greg -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Death of the Desktops? Spreadsheets creation and data entry, page layout, photo processing, writing, presentation creation - those and more are far more difficult on anything without a keyboard and mouse. Kurt On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you imagine writing technical documents or doing CAD on a tablet? Sure the percentages may change, but the desktop will not go away anytime soon. It might run on a thin client, but there's still a place for a desktop - even if virtual. Pundits have been predicting things like the death of Citrix and the year of the Linux desktop for a long while. I haven't noticed either of them happening. YMMV, IMO, etc. ---Blackberried From: Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:40:41 -0400 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Death of the Desktops? There are a number of pundits pushing the notion that desktop computing is facing certain death, and especially for desktop computers as we've known them up to now. Indeed, there are more portable offerings available than desktop machine options, but with a higher price/performance/feature ratio. I'm not sure I buy it, especially for many business environments where access to legacy apps is critical. But it does give me something to consider as we face our annual equipment refresh cycle. What are your thoughts? Roger Wright ___ If I could choose any way to destroy the world, I'd delete Google. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Windows InTune
Yeah.I have my reasons for some level of concern, but what's yours? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune Which scares the crap outta me. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune What exactly do you want to know? InTune has come a long way in a short time and does a great job. And, Microsoft is investing heavily in the future of InTune, and will eventually marry ConfigMgr and InTune. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows InTune We're seeing a greater need for something like Windows InTune for about 10-15 machines that rarely touch our network. Currently, we have no way to manage these machines and assure they're receiving Microsoft, Adobe, Java, or other updates. VIPRE does report home, however, so at least that aspect is covered. Any comments regarding InTune usage results or evaluations would be helpful. TIA... Roger Wright ___ Geocaching: Hide, Hunt, Find Repeat - It's FUN! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: PKI big picture?
BTW: Plan your PKI appropriately. There's a patch available now that requires strong keys, but won't be mandatory for a bit. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/08/15/update-to-the-update-that-could-harm-your-system-center-environment-if-youre-not-ready/ -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: PKI big picture? Eh, SCOM wants a cert more than SCCM does. IME. But I still agree with your conclusion. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: PKI big picture? On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Stephen Wimberly riverside...@gmail.com wrote: I want to use PKI for SCCM 2012, and it's a nice to have for other servers. QUESTION: If I were to purchase a certificate from an outside trusted vendor like Verisign, could I skip the internal Enterprise server CA and import the purchased certificate directly to my SCCM server? From what I have read so far it looks best to purchase a cert, import it to your Enterprise CA and then create certificates from the Enterprise CA but it just sounds redundant. Am I really seeing this 'right'? I suspect that won't work. We haven't yet brought up SCCM here, but at least some MSFT products require not only a cert installed on the server, but also a cert installed on the workstation. Even if SCCM doesn't require workstation certs, other stuff will. I'd bite the bullet and put in a proper CA structure, with a root CA (running Win2k8R2 standard, probably as a VM) that is shut down 99+% of the time, and an intermediate CA (running Win2k8 R2 Enterprise), that is always up and running. IMHO, if you're big enough to run SCCM, you're big enough to have a PKI. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Twitter via RSS
You can do that with Twitter list, too. So, instead of getting the RSS feed for a single profile at a time, you can get a single feed for a group of profiles. You have to set up your own lists, though. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tip: Twitter via RSS Many of you mentioned in this thread you have no idea how, nor a desire to use Twitter. Well, I am somewhat in that boat, but there ARE some people/companies/industry groups I wish to follow. For those that use RSS (If you're a Systems Admin, you should be), here is a neat trick to follow a Twitter account in an RSS feed: Find a Twitter handle you wish to follow, and paste this into your feed reader: http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name= http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=%5bTwitterAcc ountName [TwitterAccountName] Some IT related companies post quality and useful information via Twitter, like outages and patches Dell announces their Outlet sales via Twitter, for example. My company is in the Digital Signage Industry, and many of my roles here overlap into that space, so I follow a lot of Twitter feeds related to what's new in the industry - and I learn TONS. Great way to stay informed and up to speed. I have a few friends I follow as well. My point: you don't need to be ON Twitter or have an account to utilize it. Food for thought. Sam From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Social media and real life So.guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that it's nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social media... Hmm..not for me. I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day and don't even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl' for the data plan). Does this put me behind the curve these days? I'm guessing the smartphone is where I am behind the curve the most? Damn, I didn't want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Twitter via RSS
Of course. But, Twitter is the safest login token so it's useful to have anyway. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Twitter via RSS I imagine you could, but you'd need a Twitter account. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Twitter via RSS You can do that with Twitter list, too. So, instead of getting the RSS feed for a single profile at a time, you can get a single feed for a group of profiles. You have to set up your own lists, though. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Tip: Twitter via RSS Many of you mentioned in this thread you have no idea how, nor a desire to use Twitter. Well, I am somewhat in that boat, but there ARE some people/companies/industry groups I wish to follow. For those that use RSS (If you're a Systems Admin, you should be), here is a neat trick to follow a Twitter account in an RSS feed: Find a Twitter handle you wish to follow, and paste this into your feed reader: http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name= http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=%5bTwitterAcc ountName [TwitterAccountName] Some IT related companies post quality and useful information via Twitter, like outages and patches Dell announces their Outlet sales via Twitter, for example. My company is in the Digital Signage Industry, and many of my roles here overlap into that space, so I follow a lot of Twitter feeds related to what's new in the industry - and I learn TONS. Great way to stay informed and up to speed. I have a few friends I follow as well. My point: you don't need to be ON Twitter or have an account to utilize it. Food for thought. Sam From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Social media and real life So.guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that it's nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social media... Hmm..not for me. I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day and don't even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl' for the data plan). Does this put me behind the curve these days? I'm guessing the smartphone is where I am behind the curve the most? Damn, I didn't want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Social media and real life
They're all tools to get information, just like anything else. There's a stack of tools in the world for that purpose, it's just a matter or selecting the one that fits you the best. However, as time progresses, tools like Twitter (Facebook, uggh) are displacing some of the older tools. Twitter can be a mess unless you have the right client/app to make sense of it. Once you do that, you really don't need any other tool. I get more from Twitter than any other mechanism, now. Of course.I'm a tech info junkie. For those that really don't care about that stuff, it's probably not worth the effort. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Social media and real life So.guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that it's nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social media... Hmm..not for me. I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day and don't even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl' for the data plan). Does this put me behind the curve these days? I'm guessing the smartphone is where I am behind the curve the most? Damn, I didn't want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Social media and real life
J You weren't following the right people, or filtering the feeds correctly. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Social media and real life I find Facebook useful for keeping in touch with family, friends, and organizations that I belong to. I hardly use it for business at all except for HP and the VM users group I belong to. I had Twitter for a while and dropped it. I couldn't see how getting tweets like Going to have pot roast tonight, It's going to be a beautiful day today, and Gosh, I'm bored could be beneficial. -Paul From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Social media and real life So.guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that it's nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social media... Hmm..not for me. I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day and don't even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl' for the data plan). Does this put me behind the curve these days? I'm guessing the smartphone is where I am behind the curve the most? Damn, I didn't want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys. David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Social media and real life
Yes. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Social media and real life Is the twitterverse available to search engines? On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote: Greetings from New Joisey, I use TweetDeck on my PC, Mac, droid phone and the Twitter client on my iPad. Or did you mean what do I use Twitter for? :) Most of the people I deal with in the server, desktop and application virtualization space and user environment management space do most of their writing on Twitter. I don't do much on Facebook unless I have posted a new article on my site. Same on LinkedIn. Twitter is where most of my action is. I do have separate personal and business accounts on Twitter. And dude, you are so outta touch! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com From: David Lum david@nwea.org Subject: RE: Social media and real life What do you use for Twitter? And if Webster says I’m outta touch I better get with it! So…where do I start to get caught up? Is (lack of) smartphone the biggest deficiency? I don’t see myself as a techno junkie, but I do like having a broad swath of information and collaboration ability). I only know as much as my collective resources! I also REALLY don’t want to be behind the time simply because I’m stubborn – that’s not very flexible which also isn’t good for busness… From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Subject: RE: Social media and real life They’re all tools to get information, just like anything else. There’s a stack of tools in the world for that purpose, it’s just a matter or selecting the one that fits you the best. However, as time progresses, tools like Twitter (Facebook, uggh) are displacing some of the older tools. Twitter can be a mess unless you have the right client/app to make sense of it. Once you do that, you really don’t need any other tool. I get more from Twitter than any other mechanism, now. Of course…I’m a tech info junkie. For those that really don’t care about that stuff, it’s probably not worth the effort. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Subject: Social media and real life So…guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that “it’s nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social media..”. Hmm..not for me. I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day and don’t even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl’ for the data plan). Does this put me behind the curve these days? I’m guessing the smartphone is where I am behind the curve the most? Damn, I didn’t want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys… ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: System Center 2012 - SQL Server 2012?
Soon. It's generally 30-90 days after a major release (like SQL Server 2012). From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 6:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: System Center 2012 - SQL Server 2012? Has Microsoft given any guidance when SQL Server 2012 will be supported as a backend DB? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Microsoft New webmail
Ok…so you caught me late on this one, so just responding. I’m not seeing that issue in Chrome, IE9, Firefox, Safari or Opera. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail IE9 and Firefox 14 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 1:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail What browser? Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Anyone seeing an odd rendering issue – the top of the main frame/div (with the search box, or the subject line when composing mail etc.) is hidden behind the header frame/div (didn’t look into source to work out whether it’s a frame or div or whatever) Cheers Ken ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Microsoft New webmail
It's pretty good. Plus, it's built for a touchscreen. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail Yep. Just signed up this morning. One of my in-laws told me about it. It doesn't look bad at first glance. -Paul From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Microsoft New webmail Outlook.com Anyone tried this yet. Looks and feels like the rest. Except for the ad's on the rightside. -- Gene C. Sticks and stones may break my bones. I will never let words hurt me. But, pushed to far? And I will beat you until the law gets their! http://www.facebook.com/cegenec Misc. B.S. http://genec-lori.com/ PackRat GarageSale http://genec-lori.biz/ Genes-Computers Inc. Yulee ,Fl Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder Active registered Microsoft Partner Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators If you think you're beaten, Then you are! If you give up the fight, Accept it !! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Microsoft New webmail
Spam seems much better so far, but yes, Hotmail is a huge spam sponge. From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Microsoft New webmail Oh great... another source for spam. Roger Wright ___ My sister broke her leg a week ago, yesterday she got fired from IHOP. What irony! On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: It's pretty good. Plus, it's built for a touchscreen. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail Yep. Just signed up this morning. One of my in-laws told me about it. It doesn't look bad at first glance. -Paul From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Microsoft New webmail Outlook.com Anyone tried this yet. Looks and feels like the rest. Except for the ad's on the rightside. -- Gene C. Sticks and stones may break my bones. I will never let words hurt me. But, pushed to far? And I will beat you until the law gets their! http://www.facebook.com/cegenec Misc. B.S. http://genec-lori.com/ PackRat GarageSale http://genec-lori.biz/ Genes-Computers Inc. Yulee ,Fl Established 1981, Microsoft OEM Registered member, system builder Active registered Microsoft Partner Active Charter Partner of The Association of System Builders and Integrators If you think you're beaten, Then you are! If you give up the fight, Accept it !! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Microsoft New webmail
What browser? Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Anyone seeing an odd rendering issue - the top of the main frame/div (with the search box, or the subject line when composing mail etc.) is hidden behind the header frame/div (didn't look into source to work out whether it's a frame or div or whatever) Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 12:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail It's pretty good. Plus, it's built for a touchscreen. From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail Yep. Just signed up this morning. One of my in-laws told me about it. It doesn't look bad at first glance. -Paul From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:cege...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Microsoft New webmail Outlook.com Anyone tried this yet. Looks and feels like the rest. Except for the ad's on the rightside. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Microsoft New webmail
This is it. The others will go away. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Microsoft New webmail On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:18 PM, C.E. Gene Connor cege...@gmail.com wrote: Outlook.com Because HoTMaiL/Microsoft Hotmail/MSN Hotmail/Windows Live Mail hadn't had enough name changes so far. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad
Yeah…it’s not going to happen. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad From a business perspective I agree, they almost have to. But the fact that it's almost August and we haven't heard anything about such a version makes me think that it might not happen. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:07/24/2012 09:55 AM Subject:RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad _ It’s obviously meant for touch screens and mobile devices. Will they possibly release a different version for “normal” desktop use, whether it be under a different version or name (Win8 Desktop)? Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: mailto:dgu...@che.org dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Daniel Chenault [ mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad Bad = does not meet expectations Good = at least better than previous version if not more Dos 3.3 - good DOS 4.0 – bad DOS 5.0 - good Windows 3.0 - bad WfW 3.11 - good Windows 95 - bad Windows 98 w/sp3 - good Windows Millenium - bad WinXP w/SP3 – good Vista – bad Win7 – good Win8 - ? I see a pattern Daniel Chenault mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com Description: Description: cid:image001.jpg@01CCF24C.F9B05160 From: James Rankin [ mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Gartner says Win8 is bad Don't they normally come out onside for MS? Strange http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/23/gartner_windows_8_review/ -- http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/ IMPORTANT INFORMATION/DISCLAIMER I certainly don't have time to monitor the content of e-mail sent and received via this account for the purposes of ensuring compliance with anyone's policies and procedures. I am pretty sure that somewhere in UK legislation there is some politically-correct drivel that stipulates I must never send or store e-mails or attachments that are obscene, indecent, sexist, racist, defamatory, abusive, in breach of copyright, encrypted, amusing, overly long, slightly opinionated, anonymous, likely to harm animals or hurt the feelings of an as-yet-unspecified or as-yet-nonexistent minority (such as extraterrestrial eggplants). Emails of this nature sent in or out of this account may be intercepted and stopped by the system, but it's a long shot. This being the UK, even if I was prosecuted for breach of said email guidelines, I'd probably walk with a suspended sentence anyway, but if I'd forgotten to pay my car insurance, I'd most certainly be hung, drawn and quartered. I am not responsible for any changes made to the message after it has been sent, in more or less the same way that cyclozine manufacturers aren't responsible for drug addicts mixing it with methadone and overdosing, so I'm glad I cleared the confusion up there nice and early. Where opinions are expressed, they are not necessarily mine. However, I don't make a habit of expressing other people's opinions for them, so you shouldn't take that statement as an indication that I am in the business of providing an opinion-expressing service. In the event that I did, this discourse would provide no guarantee that I would do it anyway, but I don't, so I won't. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to them, aside from the fact that you've clearly got some level of unauthorised access to their account or are at least engaged in some sort of fraud, I'm obliged to tell you that may not copy, forward disclose or otherwise use it or any part of it in any way. To do so may be unlawful, and as you're already breaking the law, I am sure that bombshell makes you quake in your boots and turn yourself over
RE: Dropbox concerns..
I'm not, though the security breach has been heavily reported. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dropbox concerns.. Anyone using Dropbox and seeing SPAM to that account? http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?page=7 http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?page=7id=64367replies=111 id=64367replies=111 David Lum Systems Engineer // NWEATM Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: US jobs market
We deal primarily with System Center and related jobs. Mostly short term jobs coming through. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/jobs/ Also, there's a few folks that like to help tune-up resumes. Might be good for someone entering the US job market: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/groups/resume-tune-up/ From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: US jobs market I don't think you'll have a problem finding a job on the upper East coast, as I received just as many job notices for upstate NJ and NY than I did for my immediate area. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: US jobs market Agreed with Webster. Lots of jobs for Citrix, virtualization, and storage here. There are a number of Citrix partners in my area, and they have plenty of work (I use a local one for occasional assistance with planning and implementation). Smaller shops like mine (1,000 employees and I'm the engineer for everything) lean on those sort of partners for assistance where I don't have enough time I wish I had for Citrix. On the other hand I don't see many general IT jobs about, at least around here. My former boss resigned and it took him months to find something. Go for it and best wishes. Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com 7/5/2012 9:44 PM I'm waiting to hear from sister-in-law about all the relevant boxes we need to tick. I'm sure I will find out pretty soon! ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:36:10 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: US jobs market You have two VERY hot skills: Citrix and AppSense. I seriously doubt you will have any trouble finding contract work on this side of the pond. Won't you need a sponsor to come over? Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: OT: US jobs market On another totally OT note...there's some talk in our household about moving to the US because my sister-in-law lives there (NY area). Just wondering what the US IT jobs market is like at the moment (probably mainly contract work) to see if it is worth us giving this some serious thought. I am utterly disenchanted with the UK at the moment and would be glad to relocate somewhere better before my kids get too old. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attachments is the property of Catholic Health East and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain information that is privileged and confidential. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message, and reply to the sender regarding the error in a separate email. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To
RE: US jobs market
Good point. We expire them in 30 days, though, and then go back to verify. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: US jobs market Rod, Just a suggestion. Might be helpful to have a column that lists the date the job was posted. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Achitect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services Tel 610-807-6459 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America http://www.guardianlife.com/ www.guardianlife.com From:Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:07/06/2012 09:46 AM Subject:RE: US jobs market _ We deal primarily with System Center and related jobs. Mostly short term jobs coming through. http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/jobs/ Also, there’s a few folks that like to help tune-up resumes. Might be good for someone entering the US job market: http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/groups/resume-tune-up/ From: Guyer, Don [ mailto:dgu...@che.org mailto:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: US jobs market I don’t think you’ll have a problem finding a job on the upper East coast, as I received just as many job notices for upstate NJ and NY than I did for my immediate area. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory Messaging Services 3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa 19073 email: mailto:dgu...@che.org dgu...@che.org Office: 610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240 From: Tom Miller mailto:[mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: US jobs market Agreed with Webster. Lots of jobs for Citrix, virtualization, and storage here. There are a number of Citrix partners in my area, and they have plenty of work (I use a local one for occasional assistance with planning and implementation). Smaller shops like mine (1,000 employees and I'm the engineer for everything) lean on those sort of partners for assistance where I don't have enough time I wish I had for Citrix. On the other hand I don't see many general IT jobs about, at least around here. My former boss resigned and it took him months to find something. Go for it and best wishes. Rankin, James R mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com kz2...@googlemail.com 7/5/2012 9:44 PM I'm waiting to hear from sister-in-law about all the relevant boxes we need to tick. I'm sure I will find out pretty soon! ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Webster mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com webs...@carlwebster.com Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:36:10 To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: US jobs market You have two VERY hot skills: Citrix and AppSense. I seriously doubt you will have any trouble finding contract work on this side of the pond. Won't you need a sponsor to come over? Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Subject: OT: US jobs market On another totally OT note...there's some talk in our household about moving to the US because my sister-in-law lives there (NY area). Just wondering what the US IT jobs market is like at the moment (probably mainly contract work) to see if it is worth us giving this some serious thought. I am utterly disenchanted with the UK at the moment and would be glad to relocate somewhere better before my kids get too old. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage
RE: No more SBS
Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are the easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, immediate benefit. No need for on-premise hardware. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: No more SBS There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn't include SQL or Exchange. I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P However, I see it as an ongoing move to the Enterprise for Microsoft. They are abandoning their small business roots. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: No more SBS I don't see the product in the environments I work in but Microsoft says no more SBS. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-2012-versions -licensing-700341/ http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-EEF4F4C FFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard? No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes Exchange Server and Windows server component products, will be the final such Windows Server offering. This change is in response to small business market trends and behavior. The small business computing trends are moving in the direction of cloud computing for applications and services such as email, online back-up and line-of-business tools. 13 Q34. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business 2011 Premium Add-on? No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on, which includes SQL Server and Windows Server as component products, will be the final such Windows Server offering. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: No more SBS
Agreed that redundancy needs to be addressed. With the uptick in severe weather, we almost need off-world backup. Either a manmade satellite, a space station, the moon, or even Mars, maybe all of them. I'd drop everything to go be a datacenter manager on Mars. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: No more SBS This is unfortunate thinking, given the poor uptime record for clouds in general, and it's worse when you consider connectivity issues as part of that equation. Kurt On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are the easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, immediate benefit. No need for on-premise hardware. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: No more SBS There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn’t include SQL or Exchange. I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P However, I see it as an ongoing “move to the Enterprise” for Microsoft. They are abandoning their small business roots. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: No more SBS I don’t see the product in the environments I work in but Microsoft says no more SBS. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-2012-ve rsions-licensing-700341/ http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-E EF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard? No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes Exchange Server and Windows server component products, will be the final such Windows Server offering. This change is in response to small business market trends and behavior. The small business computing trends are moving in the direction of cloud computing for applications and services such as email, online back-up and line-of-business tools. 13 Q34. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business 2011 Premium Add-on? No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on, which includes SQL Server and Windows Server as component products, will be the final such Windows Server offering. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: No more SBS
Heavy storms in the area? Send the data through a light beam to the moon, and bounce it back when all is clear. -Original Message- From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: No more SBS I wouldn't envy your ping times--ranging from about 6 to 45 minutes round trip... On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Agreed that redundancy needs to be addressed. With the uptick in severe weather, we almost need off-world backup. Either a manmade satellite, a space station, the moon, or even Mars, maybe all of them. I'd drop everything to go be a datacenter manager on Mars. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: No more SBS This is unfortunate thinking, given the poor uptime record for clouds in general, and it's worse when you consider connectivity issues as part of that equation. Kurt On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are the easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, immediate benefit. No need for on-premise hardware. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: No more SBS There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn't include SQL or Exchange. I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P However, I see it as an ongoing move to the Enterprise for Microsoft. They are abandoning their small business roots. From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: No more SBS I don't see the product in the environments I work in but Microsoft says no more SBS. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-2012-v e rsions-licensing-700341/ http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF- E EF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard? No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes Exchange Server and Windows server component products, will be the final such Windows Server offering. This change is in response to small business market trends and behavior. The small business computing trends are moving in the direction of cloud computing for applications and services such as email, online back-up and line-of-business tools. 13 Q34. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business 2011 Premium Add-on? No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on, which includes SQL Server and Windows Server as component products, will be the final such Windows Server offering. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Dell to acquire Quest
It's..interesting. Dell has been trying to get into the systems management space for a long while. They hoped the KACE thing would work out, but it didn't. They have also been extremely miffed that HP keeps getting more exposure at Microsoft conferences than Dell does, so they even unveiled their own systems management conference last year. To me, Quest has turned into the old CA where they'd acquire a long list of unrelated products just so they could compete in an area, and they really don't compete very well due to the software stream being so unfocused and diluted. Quest has acquired some good products and companies over the years (Scriptlogic, Changebase, others) but, I think the acquisition costs finally caught up with them. 6 months from now, it'll be interesting to see how things have progressed and which Quest products you don't hear about anymore. There has to be a product vetting process, product focus mergers, and pieces that simply get cut. There's no possible way any company can sell, support, and promote that many products. It'll drag Dell down if they don't get a handle on it right away. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Dell to acquire Quest Honestly not sure if this is good or bad. http://www.quest.com/news-release/dell-to-acquire-quest-software-072012-8177 37.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://theessentialexchange.com/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin