RE: NTSYSADMIN - NEW VENUE - NEW ADMIN

2013-05-16 Thread Rod Trent
Here's the link to sign up...

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists-2/ 


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NTSYSADMIN - NEW VENUE - NEW ADMIN

Yes, and possibly.

Rod is supposed to either already have received, or will receive, the list of 
members from here, and once that is received is supposed to subscribe them, but 
if you haven't been receiving email from the new list, you haven't been moved, 
and it would be worth your while to go to myitforum.com to subscribe.

Kurt

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Kelli Sterley kjsterley.li...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Will the email change that we use?  Will we need to resubscribe?


 On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:49 AM, stu sjouwerman 
 s...@sunbelt-software.com
 wrote:

 Hi All,

 The list is moving to myITforum. Rod Trent set this list up, and the 
 correct email for Rod is rodtr...@myitforum.com

 Thanks everyone for all the years of sharing knowledge, and 
 contributing to the list. NTSYSADMIN will live on at myITforum !!

 Warm regards,

 Stu


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RE: The list status

2013-05-03 Thread Rod Trent
Google groups?

Is that even a listserv?

-Original Message-
From: Sandy [mailto:san...@knowbe4.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: The list status

Hello Everyone!  My name is Sandy Vandebult and I was a long Sunbelter and 
currently work with Stu at his new company Knowbe4.  GoodNews!!  GFI has given 
the list over to Stu and the list will live on! 

We are looking at moving the list over to Google groups but I am open to any 
suggestions if anybody knows of a better way to go.


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RE: problem subscription to new list

2013-05-03 Thread Rod Trent
I've seen this happen for a couple reasons.

 

1.   myITforum.com is being blocked by your email servers.

2.   When your sending address is different than your receiving address.
Some companies have different domain structure for sending and receiving.

 

 

Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ 

 http://www.myitforum.com/  http://twitter.com/rodtrent
http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: problem subscription to new list

 

Anyone else having issues trying to subscribe to the new list that Rod put
up? I send the subscription e-mail, but I've gotten no confirmation back.
I've tried 3 times over the last 3 days with no luck. Don't see it getting
flagged as junk, and I do get the stuff from ad...@myitforum.com
mailto:ad...@myitforum.com  without any issues. 




Christopher Bodnar 
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Architecture and Engineering Services 


Tel 610-807-6459  
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RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-05-03 Thread Rod Trent
Hi, Phil.

 

Stu dropped me an email to make sure you are in the loop.

 

The list has moved to the following location:

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/

 

You can find both the NT list and the Exchange list there.

 

 

From: Phil Hershey [mailto:phers...@agia.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 

Stu,

 

Never got a thing. I did just see your message about problems with Google
Groups, so now I don't have a clue where we're going.  What's the link for
the correct list/host?


Thanks. Can't do without the list.

 

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e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies.

 

From: s...@knowbe4.com mailto:s...@knowbe4.com  [mailto:s...@knowbe4.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 11:45 AM
To: lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 

 

Hi All,

 

You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. 

 

This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, 

which will shut down at the end of this month.  

 

GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 

I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. 

 

Warm regards,

 

Stu

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RE: The list?

2013-05-02 Thread Rod Trent
I saw him posting to Twitter yesterday.  So, he's not being quiet
everywhere.

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The list?

 

My theory is this:

 

1)  He sent his email a month early by accident, it isn't shutting down
until the end of April.

2)  He has been busy, and hasn't seen what we have been saying..so he
isn't aware we are freaking out.

 

From: Clark, Tommy R [mailto:tommy.r.cl...@saic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The list?

 

I am surprised that Stu has been silent through all of this.

 

From: bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
mailto:bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
[mailto:bounce-9606064-8239...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of
James Kerr
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The list?

 

Now I have to wonder if the lists were being shutdown at all and if Stu's
email was just a ploy to get folks over to his own list. (which he never
left instructions on how to do)

 

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com
mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com  wrote:

Pong.

 

Need some popcorn...

 

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:56 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com
mailto:cluster...@gmail.com  wrote:

Ping?

Sent from my MK-19 grenade launcher.

On May 1, 2013 8:35 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
mailto:scaes...@caesare.com  wrote:

Hesienberg's 8-Ball says:  Uncertain

 

-sc

 

From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com
mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com ] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The list?

 

Is Schrodenger's cat subscribed to the list?

 

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com
mailto:r...@finnesey.com  wrote:
 I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running?

  No.  We're all a figment of your imagination.

-- Ben


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RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

2013-04-30 Thread Rod Trent
No problem!


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

Thanks for doing this for all of us, R!

Regards,

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology Enterprise Directory  Messaging 
Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073
email: dgu...@che.org
Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440 For immediate 
assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 
610-492-3839.



-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

You can also sign-up using these instructions...

1. Create a new, blank email.
2. Address the email to:  comm...@lists.myitforum.com 3. Skip all the way down 
to the BODY of the new email (leaving the subject line blank) and enter the 
following:
subscribe NTSysADM
4. Send the email.
 
In a few minutes you’ll receive a subscription confirmation back.  Save this 
email, as it contains information on how to manage your subscription to the 
list.



-Original Message-
From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

I'm having a problem with signing up for the new list. I'm using Windows Live 
as my email client, and I keep getting error messages each time I click on the 
second link to the new NTSYSADMIN list. Anybody have any ideas? The message 
says I'm low on resources, but I don't believe that! There was another message 
that came up just once stating that I needed to update Windows Live to continue.

M. Free

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 Done.  Link is here:

 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/

 Rod Trent

Done. Thank you.

Kurt

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RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

2013-04-29 Thread Rod Trent
Same here. Personally, I prefer email, but we’ve found the split is about 
50/50, i.e., 50% prefer email, 50% prefer web based forums.  That’s why we keep 
both.

 

Also, of note, myITforum was recently acquired by Penton Media (WindowsITPro), 
so there’s a LOT of additional support for the list from a solid, respected 
organization.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 

I vote do it. I prefer e-mail to web forum for this stuff.

 

From: rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com  
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 

I can set up a list in a few minutes, just say the word. We already host over 
25 lists and have plenty of bandwidth to spare.

 

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

 

From: Kennedy, Jim
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎April‎ ‎29‎, ‎2013 ‎8‎:‎14‎ ‎AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

 

The end of the month and allegedly the end of the list is tomorrow. We need a 
plan B to get back in contact to get this going again if possible. Someone got 
a blog we can bookmark for new/announcements that would be willing to post 
anything they hear?

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RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

2013-04-29 Thread Rod Trent
I can do that.

 

 

Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ 

 http://www.myitforum.com/  http://twitter.com/rodtrent  
http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent  
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 

Would you also do one for Exchange ?

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 

Done.  Link is here:

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/

 

 

 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ Rod Trent

 http://www.myitforum.com/  http://twitter.com/rodtrent  
http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent  
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 

Sounds good to me and post the link so we can start over there…

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, CISA, Security +, Network +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

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Work:401-444-9081

 

 

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From: David Lum [ mailto:david@nwea.org mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 9:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 

I vote do it. I prefer e-mail to web forum for this stuff.

 

From:  mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com rodtr...@myitforum.com [ 
mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

 

I can set up a list in a few minutes, just say the word. We already host over 
25 lists and have plenty of bandwidth to spare.

 

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

 

From: Kennedy, Jim
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎April‎ ‎29‎, ‎2013 ‎8‎:‎14‎ ‎AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

 

The end of the month and allegedly the end of the list is tomorrow. We need a 
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a blog we can bookmark for new/announcements that would be willing to post 
anything they hear?

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RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

2013-04-29 Thread Rod Trent
You can also sign-up using these instructions...

1. Create a new, blank email.
2. Address the email to:  comm...@lists.myitforum.com
3. Skip all the way down to the BODY of the new email (leaving the subject line 
blank) and enter the following:
subscribe NTSysADM
4. Send the email.
 
In a few minutes you’ll receive a subscription confirmation back.  Save this 
email, as it contains information on how to manage your subscription to the 
list.



-Original Message-
From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

I'm having a problem with signing up for the new list. I'm using Windows Live 
as my email client, and I keep getting error messages each time I click on the 
second link to the new NTSYSADMIN list. Anybody have any ideas? The message 
says I'm low on resources, but I don't believe that! There was another message 
that came up just once stating that I needed to update Windows Live to continue.

M. Free

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 Done.  Link is here:

 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/

 Rod Trent

Done. Thank you.

Kurt

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RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

2013-04-29 Thread Rod Trent
Nah...it's also on the email list page.


Rod Trent


-Original Message-
From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

I was supposed to save that???

Joe Heaton
Enterprise Server Support
CA Department of Fish and Wildlife
1807 13th Street, Suite 201
Sacramento, CA  95811
Desk:  (916) 323-1284

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:12 PM
To: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife; NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

You can also sign-up using these instructions...

1. Create a new, blank email.
2. Address the email to:  comm...@lists.myitforum.com 3. Skip all the way down 
to the BODY of the new email (leaving the subject line blank) and enter the 
following:
subscribe NTSysADM
4. Send the email.
 
In a few minutes you’ll receive a subscription confirmation back.  Save this 
email, as it contains information on how to manage your subscription to the 
list.



-Original Message-
From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

I'm having a problem with signing up for the new list. I'm using Windows Live 
as my email client, and I keep getting error messages each time I click on the 
second link to the new NTSYSADMIN list. Anybody have any ideas? The message 
says I'm low on resources, but I don't believe that! There was another message 
that came up just once stating that I needed to update Windows Live to continue.

M. Free

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: End of month plan B for list shutdown.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 Done.  Link is here:

 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/email-lists/

 Rod Trent

Done. Thank you.

Kurt

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RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-26 Thread Rod Trent
And, that brings up probably the best stat to solve this whole mystery: age.


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Doug Hampshire dhampsh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bottom posting: Something abandoned a long time ago by everyone except Kurt.
 It's annoying as heck on a PC and makes reading threads on a mobile 
 device significantly more difficult. But then again it's a free 
 country and if Kurt wants to continue to write a paper check, make the 
 entry into the checkbook register, and update the running balance 
 while five people stand behind him in line at the grocery store so be 
 it. But I also have the right to glare at him and make snide comments 
 about those fancy new debit cards all the cool kids are using these days.

No checks for me.

Cash only - can't forge a $20 bill in my name. Too risky.

You might want to check with Ben before characterizing my posting habits as 
unique to me.

Also, portable devices for email - don't like 'em. Too darn hard to work with 
and see the messages on.

Get off my lawn.

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RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-25 Thread Rod Trent
That worked!  Brilliant.

 

From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 

Click your heels together three times and say I wish I were subscribed. 

 

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com
mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com  wrote:

Do we need to do something?

 

Thanks

 

 

Webster

 

From: s...@knowbe4.com mailto:s...@knowbe4.com  [mailto:s...@knowbe4.com
mailto:s...@knowbe4.com ] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:45 PM
To: lyris.sunbelt-software.com http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com 


Subject: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 

 

Hi All,

 

You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4. 

 

This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, 

which will shut down at the end of this month.  

 

GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 

I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4. 

 

Warm regards,

 

Stu

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RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-25 Thread Rod Trent
Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, 
thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I realize your response 
is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a Gmail thing?


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:


 Hi All,

 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.

 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which 
 will shut down at the end of this month.

 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.

 Warm regards,

 Stu

Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's the 
subscription info?

Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler?

Kurt

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RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-25 Thread Rod Trent
Oh my...that's a lot of work for both the recipient and the sender and 
definitely not the norm.  I guess we're all just doing it wrong. :)

I thought it was an email client issue, like you were using Lotus Notes or 
something.


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

See response below...

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it automatically, 
 thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I realize your 
 response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com wrote:


 Hi All,

 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.

 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which 
 will shut down at the end of this month.

 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.

 Warm regards,

 Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's 
 the subscription info?

 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list handler?

 Kurt

No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty lines that 
gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the message and delete the 
cruft that the list software appends to each message.

It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:

o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way through, 
then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the reply, then bounce 
down and read the original post

o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's easier to 
maintain conversation flow while responding to individual thoughts in the 
original post(s).

Kurt

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RE: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

2013-04-25 Thread Rod Trent
I'm sure there are plenty of places that would gladly host the list for
free.  It's a valuable resource.

 

If it comes down to that, we could even do it.

 

 

 

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 

Any reason we shouldn't jump into the new world?

Like https://plus.google.com/communities/105379670851238376600

 

Or build our own?

 

 

On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com  wrote:

See response below...


On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com
mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com  wrote:
 Every time I see your messages come through I almost delete it
automatically, thinking someone accidentally hit Send too soon.  Then, I
realize your response is *under* the original text.  Tricky.  Is that a
Gmail thing?


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com ]
 Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 4:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: ALERT : NTSYSADMIN LIST MIGRATION

 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:44 AM,  s...@knowbe4.com
mailto:s...@knowbe4.com  wrote:


 Hi All,

 You are invited to the new NTSYSADMIN list hosted by KnowBe4.

 This replaces the Lyris list hosted by Sunbelt Software / GFI, which
 will shut down at the end of this month.

 GFI will confirm this with a separate message.

 I will continue to moderate the NTSYSADMIN list from KnowBe4.

 Warm regards,

 Stu

 Continuity? That is, will the archives migrate too?

 You say invited does this mean I have to do a new signup? If so, where's
the subscription info?

 Can you ban the indeed when used as a single word response? :)

 Will you finally migrate to mailman so that we can have a sane list
handler?

 Kurt

No, it's called bottom posting, and I do it by deleting the to empty
lines that gmail starts with, then CTRL-END to the bottom of the
message and delete the cruft that the list software appends to each
message.

It's (IMNSHO) the better way of pursuing a conversation, for two reasons:

o- It maintains a natural flow of reading - read the post all the way
through, then read the reply all the way through, instead of read the
reply, then bounce down and read the original post

o- If you're doing in-line replies, it's also more natural, as it's
easier to maintain conversation flow while responding to individual
thoughts in the original post(s).


Kurt

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G. Waleed Kavalec
--

The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and
fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices,
to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill
and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a
scapegoat has a fallout all of its own - for the children, and the children
yet unborn. 

And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight
Zone.

 

- Rod Serling; 

Closing monologue from The Monsters are Due on Maple Street

The Twilight Zone, Season 1, Episode 22


 

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RE: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End?

2013-04-05 Thread Rod Trent
+1000

 

 

Rod Trent http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/community/members/rodtrent/ 

 http://www.myitforum.com/  http://twitter.com/rodtrent
http://www.facebook.com/rodtrent
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=2881785 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 11:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End?

 

I remember people saying the same thing about IBM back in the day.  IBM
reinvented itself and is, IMO, stronger (at least net income wise) than
before.  Net Income trumps any stupid journalist or pundit.

 

Thanks

 

 

Webster

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 10:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Just A Bunch of Noise, or The Beginning of The End?

 

http://usmarketbuzz.com/msft-microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-will-grow-obso
lete-by-2017-gartner-3206#
http://usmarketbuzz.com/msft-microsoft-corporation-nasdaqmsft-will-grow-obs
olete-by-2017-gartner-3206 




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___

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Lincoln

 

 

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RE: Office 365

2013-04-03 Thread Rod Trent
Using it here.

 

Works great, especially when used with SkyDrive.

 

From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 3:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Office 365

 

Anyone using this service yet?

I am thinking about moving my Exchange off to them and getting the Office
Pro Plus package?

Just wondering about security and other questions but didn't know how to
find an unbiased article on Google so far everything I have found is 2 years
old and bashing Microsoft for every offering such a thing as cloud based
email or apps???

Thanks

David

 

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RE: RT devices?

2013-03-22 Thread Rod Trent
Same with iPads.

 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RT devices?

 

RT devices aren't intended to be business devices, so there's no focus on
business support options.

 

Not that they can't be used for business, if one is so inclined, but that's
not the intended market.




 

 


ASB
 http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations  Information Security) for
the SMB market.

 

 

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com
mailto:r...@finnesey.com  wrote:

The issue I have with managing RT devices is that they have changed the
licensing- only offering per user licensing and that there is no system
center on premise solution you have to go with a cloud solution.  I thought
Microsoft's strategy was to offer both an on premise and cloud offering and
give the costumer the option 

 

From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk
mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk ] 

Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:47 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

They are able to be managed via System Centre/Intune as far as I'm aware.

 

Tobie

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 

Sent: 20 March 2013 15:57

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

I'm very fond of GPOs and full application support.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Why is the RT not appropriate for business? 

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them.
So far, they are very happy with them.

 

I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO.

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM


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Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the
Pro device and they love them.  They prefer them to the iPads.  I can't
provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working
on.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ 

 

 

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Subject: RT devices?

 

I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to
their end users.  

 

 

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RE: OT: Career and Social Media

2013-03-22 Thread Rod Trent
My last two jobs have come about because of social media.

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Career and Social Media

 

“With social media you might not have to look for a new job, it might find you”

 

Spot on.  Lately I’m always having recruiters and companies reach out to me for 
hire.  I always ask how they find me, and they always say social media or 
internet presence.  I haven’t published my resume anywhere (Heck, hardly even 
active on LinkedIn and it’s not that up to date.  My Facebook is strictly 
personal – but I do keep a ‘clean’ presence on it).

 

Several great offers have come my way.

 

I take it as a sign the IT hiring is really picking up too.

 

Sam

 

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Career and Social Media

 

In case you haven’t noticed, privacy is becoming history. The current young 
generation by and large expects to be able to find out where there friends and 
family are, where they eat and shop, and where they work, and they also have no 
problems sharing their own information with people. As these people become 
older and enter the corporate world, they will expect to know quite a bit about 
you whether or not your resume is any good, and they will likely influence 
company rules…

 

The added twist is just by having family on social media, your information 
becomes public “I went to my dad’s 40th birthday party yesterday, not too far 
from the house he was born in”. Presto, your age, date and place of birth given 
up in one sentence by someone else.

 

In many ways I see keeping privacy in the same vein as not having a car or a 
phone. You can do it, but it takes a concerted effort and a specific lifestyle 
to pull it off. (Oddly, I didn’t have this view until I went to a lunch/seminar 
that was all about security yesterday!).

 

I’m sure when those first came out there were people who said “who needs such a 
thing!”. I went without a smartphone longer than many folks, but to be 
relevant/competitive in my field it became necessary to get one (although I 
still turn off location services except for the specific times I need them) and 
I am better off for it as it saves me a lot of time vs. if I were to be without 
it. 

 

Heck cellphones are now being used to inform different service providers 
traffic densities, average speeds, etc. so their mapping software can tell you 
how to avoid traffic. Big brother is here, the difference is it’s not like The 
Truman Show because the participants are also getting the benefits of said 
information.

 

With social media you might not have to look for a new job, it might find you. 
I can see in a few years the conversation being “Remember when we had so send 
resume’s out? How lame!”.

 

That Dilbert is spot-on whether we like it or not.

 

From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Career and Social Media

 

+1000

I do not have a facebook account, nor any other social media account other than 
LinkedIn.

Work and personal life are as separate as I can make them. 

Social media is a time stealer and a privacy invader.

Kurt

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com 
mailto:jk.har...@live.com  wrote:

I am glad I am getting close to the end of my career.  I really dislike using 
things like Facebook for anything more than keeping in touch with 
family/friends.  LinkedIN is about the only social media I use for business.  
I like to keep the two very separate from each other.
 
Jon
 

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From: rodtr...@myitforum.com mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com 
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Subject: RE: OT: Career and Social Media
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:49:52 +

 

I can attest to that.  My last two jobs have come because social media.

 

Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro

 

From: Andrew S. Baker
Sent: ‎March‎ ‎21‎, ‎2013 ‎6‎:‎38‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Career and Social Media

 

 

http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2013-03-21/

 

 

 

 

 

This is the new reality, folks.  You don't have to embrace it, but to fight it 
is

going to be

career limiting

 

.  

Within 5 years, it will be a major factor in employment...

 

Who knows about you is becoming as important as what you know.

 

-ASB: http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker

 

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RE: RT devices?

2013-03-20 Thread Rod Trent
Why is the RT not appropriate for business? 

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them.
So far, they are very happy with them.

 

I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO.

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the
Pro device and they love them.  They prefer them to the iPads.  I can't
provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working
on.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com

 

 

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RT devices?

 

I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to
their end users.  

 

 

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RE: RT devices?

2013-03-20 Thread Rod Trent
Yep.here's a couple resources:

 

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/video/tdbe13-managing-windows-rt-devices-
in-the-enterprise.aspx

 

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/03/14/troubleshooting-guide-for-managi
ng-windows-rt-using-configmgr-2012-sp1-and-windows-intune/ 

 

From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

They are able to be managed via System Centre/Intune as far as I'm aware.

 

Tobie

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 20 March 2013 15:57
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

I'm very fond of GPOs and full application support.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Why is the RT not appropriate for business? 

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them.
So far, they are very happy with them.

 

I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO.

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the
Pro device and they love them.  They prefer them to the iPads.  I can't
provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working
on.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com

 

 

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RT devices?

 

I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to
their end users.  

 

 

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RE: RT devices?

2013-03-20 Thread Rod Trent
Which apps are you finding you actually need on a companion device?

 

Storyline. I have both the RT and the Pro.  After using the RT for months
and then getting the Pro, I learned to do things differently, and actually
in better ways.  There's only two apps that I really need the Pro for and
that will change soon.

 

I wrote up a comparison between the RT and Pro recently.

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/02/21/surface-pro-vs-surface-rt-an-hon
est-comparison/ 

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

I'm very fond of GPOs and full application support.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Why is the RT not appropriate for business? 

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them.
So far, they are very happy with them.

 

I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO.

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the
Pro device and they love them.  They prefer them to the iPads.  I can't
provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working
on.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com

 

 

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RT devices?

 

I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to
their end users.  

 

 

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RE: RT devices?

2013-03-20 Thread Rod Trent
Not the same, you mean.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

That is not the level of management provided by GPOs.

 

From: Tobie Fysh [mailto:tobie.f...@freebridge.org.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

They are able to be managed via System Centre/Intune as far as I'm aware.

 

Tobie

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: 20 March 2013 15:57
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

I'm very fond of GPOs and full application support.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:28 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Why is the RT not appropriate for business? 

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

The Pro is very slick and I've got a hospital client that is testing them.
So far, they are very happy with them.

 

I don't think the RT is appropriate in a business environment. Just IMHO.

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Not RT but the project I am on, the IT virtual desktop team is testing the
Pro device and they love them.  They prefer them to the iPads.  I can't
provide any specifics as that is not the part of the project I am working
on.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com

 

 

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 11:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RT devices?

 

I am curious to know if anyone is thinking or has deployed RT devices to
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RE: RT devices?

2013-03-20 Thread Rod Trent
Now, who's being mean? :) 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Did you just call MBS mean? :)  Mathematical mean or just plain old
ornery mean?

 

 

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Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

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From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

Not the same, you mean.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Subject: RE: RT devices?

 

That is not the level of management provided by GPOs.

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RE: Anyone have experience with System Center Essentials?

2013-03-15 Thread Rod Trent
You do realize that SCE 2010 EOL is 2014 and they are no longer developing
any new versions?

 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tominyorkt...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone have experience with System Center Essentials?

 

We use System Center Essentials 2007.  I'd like to migrate it to System
Center Essentials 2010.  We own licenses for that version but it was not
purchase with Software Assurance, unfortunately.

 

The server that is running SCE 2007 does not support an upgrade, and I'd
prefer to start on a new server anyway. 

 

I've read the MS blogs about installing SCE 2010 and migrating from one 2010
server to another, but I can't find anything about migrating from a 2007
server to 2010 server.  To keep the client communication going, I know I
have to decommission the old server and build the new one with the same
FQDN.   Beyond that I'm not sure.

 

Anyone have any suggestions?  The product is so old there isn't much that I
could find on Google/Bing.

 

Thanks

 

 

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RE: Lumina 822 phone

2013-02-18 Thread Rod Trent
For me, initially, it was the form factor.  It just feels right in the hand
due to the curved back.  Fits in your pocket easily.  Great for one handed
operation.

 

Camera and audio are great.

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone

 

What made it a better device in your opinion (Same question to you John)?
Some of the reviewers were saying it was better because it was more
stylish others were because of audio or camera.
 
Jon
 

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From: rodtr...@myitforum.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:47:00 +

I’m on Verizon and opted for the HTC 8X instead.  In my opinion, after
testing both, the HTC is a better device.

 

Sent from my Microsoft Surface

 

From: Jon Harris
Sent: ‎February‎ ‎15‎, ‎2013 ‎11‎:‎15‎ ‎PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone

 

Apps for the most part are pretty low on my list.  How is the battery life,
any other things you don't like about it?  I understand to lengthen the
battery life wifi needs to be shutdown which is something I would have done
anyway, I would have shut down the bluetooth as well, those devices hanging
on my ear just bother me too much.  Around here there are too many people
that would connect to any wifi that was open or that they could get access
to just so they can browse and I don't feel generous enough to let them use
my data time.
 
Jon
 

 

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From: b...@rolandschorr.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Lumina 822 phone
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:06:19 +

I have one. Haven’t really had any lockup problems – though lately I’ve had
a couple of call issues that may or may not have been caused by my Bluetooth
earpiece.

 

Overall I like the phone – though it feels like we have to wait quite a
while for app updates.

 

Ben M. Schorr

Chief Executive Officer

Roland Schorr  Tower

 http://www.rolandschorr.com/ www.rolandschorr.com

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 7:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Lumina 822 phone

 

Is anyone using this phone on the Verizon network?  I am considering it and
saw some negative reviews about it locking up on the Verizon site but
looking at other review sites no one seems to mention it having that issue.
 
Thank you!
 
Jon

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RE: Petition Requesting Microsoft to Renew Forefront TMG

2013-02-16 Thread Rod Trent
Do those petitions really work?

Sent from Windows Phone 8

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Subject: OT: Petition Requesting Microsoft to Renew Forefront TMG

It would be great if a few hundred of you would sign this petition asking for 
Microsoft to restore Forefront TMG.
 
http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-corp-renew-forefront-tmg-development
 
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RE: Backup to cloud?

2013-02-14 Thread Rod Trent
There's the private Cloud, which is your own data center, and the public
Cloud which is someone else's data center, and then hybrid Cloud which is a
mixture of both.

 

Well, and then there's the Adobe Cloud.

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/02/14/adobe-ceo-makes-you-hate-adobe-a
nd-the-cloud-even-more/ 

 

 

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup to cloud?

 

The Cloud is nothing more than someone else's data center.  So yes, that
is The Cloud.

 

Thanks

 

 

Webster

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Subject: RE: Backup to cloud?

 

This is where the term the cloud becomes murky, in my opinion. If I'm
sending data over a private circuit to a 3rd party data center, is that
really the cloud?

 

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RE: Backup to cloud?

2013-02-13 Thread Rod Trent
Why would retrieval take that long?  Are you talking more about disaster
recovery?

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup to cloud?

 

Does backup to cloud even matter if the time to retrieve it spans 20+ hours?
If I were to consider hosting a clients' backups at my location, where do I
go to find what liabilities I need to worry about. Coincidentally the client
in mind is a law firm of all places. 

David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: Backup to cloud?

2013-02-13 Thread Rod Trent
System Center DPM can backup to Windows Azure in realtime.  Veeam has a good
cloud backup, too.

 

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup to cloud?

 

Yep, I am considering backup to the cloud after a backup to disk locally
just for disaster recovery sakethen the time doesn't matter as much.
I'd still consider a mail recovery site though like postini or something to
keep mail going in case of tornado or fire.

 

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Why would retrieval take that long?  Are you talking more about disaster
recovery?

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:21 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup to cloud?

 

Does backup to cloud even matter if the time to retrieve it spans 20+ hours?
If I were to consider hosting a clients' backups at my location, where do I
go to find what liabilities I need to worry about. Coincidentally the client
in mind is a law firm of all places. 

David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: Security Firm Bit9 Hacked, Used to Spread Malware

2013-02-11 Thread Rod Trent
Especially those that don't use their own software.

 

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Security Firm Bit9 Hacked, Used to Spread Malware

 

Just shows anyone is a target..

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

ezi...@lifespan.org

 

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From: Shane Mullins [mailto:tsmulli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 4:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security Firm Bit9 Hacked, Used to Spread Malware

 

If major security vendors get hacked on a regular basis, then us little guys
don't really stand a chance!

 

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.com
wrote:

Bit9, a company that provides software and network security services to the
U.S.
government and at least 30 Fortune 100 firms, has suffered an electronic
compromise that cuts to the core of its business: helping clients
distinguish
known safe files from computer viruses and other malicious software.
OUCH !   More at:
http://krebsonsecurity.com/2013/02/security-firm-bit9-hacked-used-to-spread-
malware/

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RE: on-premises storage application

2013-01-24 Thread Rod Trent
A server and Windows Explorer?

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: on-premises storage application

 

I have a client that wants something like SkyDrive or DropBox - but they
want to host it onsite - no cloud storage.

 

They also want the company that produces the application to be in north
America or western Europe.

 

I have googled and binged a bit, and I have some options - but I'd prefer
some recommendations.

 

Does anyone here have any that they would be willing to share?

 

Thanks!

 

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RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
I'd take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday's news. 

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-
symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/ 

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations

 

Kace 
Altiris 
SCCM with SCUP 

One of these should fit most of your clients needs. 


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From:Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM 
Subject:Patch management recommendations 

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I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we
increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10
seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products
for a variety of tasks.

We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm
is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I
haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years
(used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with
the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not
just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS
platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple.

I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a
variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And
I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product.
:-)
My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle
all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more
difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without
dedicated patch management admins.

Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that
they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like?

Thanks!

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RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
I’m curious.  What impressed you about Altiris?  

 

I ask because, from what I’ve heard, they are good presenters and good 
salespeople, but the product itself has really tanked since the Symantec 
acquisition.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. We had MS come in and give us a 
presentation on SCCM 2012, and then had Symantec come in for Altiris. Got to 
say I was impressed by Altiris. 




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From:Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/17/2013 09:09 AM 
Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations 

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I’d take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday’s news. 
  
 
http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/
 
http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/
 
  
From: Christopher Bodnar [ mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com 
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations 
  
Kace 
Altiris 
SCCM with SCUP 

One of these should fit most of your clients needs. 


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and Engineering Services 


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From:Charlie Kaiser  mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org 
charl...@golden-eagle.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues  
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM 
Subject:Patch management recommendations 

 

  _  





I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we
increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10
seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products
for a variety of tasks.

We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm
is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I
haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years
(used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with
the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not
just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS
platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple.

I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a
variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And
I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product.
:-)
My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle
all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more
difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without
dedicated patch management admins.

Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that
they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like?

Thanks!

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RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
Fixed that for you...

 

-Original Message-
From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

In Kingman? Wow. 

 

Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a
failure for many reasons. I work for basically an ADC subnet, and I try to
manually touch every machine (about 200) on a regular basis. 

 

Obviously that's not practical for everyone anyone.  

 

-Original Message-

From: Charlie Kaiser [ mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org
mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:03 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Patch management recommendations

 

I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we
increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10
seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products
for a variety of tasks.

 

We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm
is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I
haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years
(used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with
the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not
just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS
platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple.

 

I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a
variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And
I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product.

:-)

My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle
all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more
difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without
dedicated patch management admins.

 

 

Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that
they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like?

 

Thanks!

 

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RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
Did they approach it that way because you are a 2007 shop?  Or, did they take 
2012 into consideration for their demo?

 

I say that because, 2012 with SP1 allows less infrastructure, views into the 
virtual infrastructure, patching for 3rd party apps, and client health (for 
Windows, Mac, Linux, and Unix) has been greatly improved.

 

The reporting thing, I can agree with.  Looks to me like their competitor 
battle cards need to be updated.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

We didn't bring it in house for a POC, so I can't say from experience, just 
what we saw at the presentation. We are an SCCM 2007 shop. Some of the things 
that stood out about the Altiris product: 

Less infrastructure required 
Significantly easier and integrated reporting 
Direct views into virtual infrastructure 
Built in patching for 3rd party software (Adobe, Java, etc...) 
Less issues with client agent health 





Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services 


Tel 610-807-6459  
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com 




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From:Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/17/2013 09:54 AM 
Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations 

  _  




I’m curious.  What impressed you about Altiris?   
  
I ask because, from what I’ve heard, they are good presenters and good 
salespeople, but the product itself has really tanked since the Symantec 
acquisition. 
  
From: Christopher Bodnar [ mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com 
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations 
  
Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. We had MS come in and give us a 
presentation on SCCM 2012, and then had Symantec come in for Altiris. Got to 
say I was impressed by Altiris. 


Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services 


Tel 610-807-6459  
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com 




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From:Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/17/2013 09:09 AM 
Subject:RE: Patch management recommendations 

 

  _  





I’d take a step back to wait and see on Altiris with yesterday’s news. 
 
 
http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/
 
http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/16/altiris-to-become-altiris-again-symantec-dumping-it-for-less-than-it-paid/
 
 
From: Christopher Bodnar [ mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com 
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations 
 
Kace 
Altiris 
SCCM with SCUP 

One of these should fit most of your clients needs. 


Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services 


Tel 610-807-6459  
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
 mailto: christopher_bod...@glic.com 


cid:image001.jpg@01CDF492.11CAAC30

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From:Charlie Kaiser  mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org 
charl...@golden-eagle.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues  
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/16/2013 06:04 PM 
Subject:Patch management recommendations 


  

  _  






I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we
increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10
seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products
for a variety of tasks.

We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm
is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I
haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years
(used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with
the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not
just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS
platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple.

I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a
variety of solutions tailored to the size

RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
Well, there's a larger problem then that needs to be addressed.  These
things should be automated. Patching using ConfigMgr is not that tough, and
getting it to work right is not that tough, either.  Maybe offer your help
to get it working.  It'll save you a lot of time and ensure that your
endpoints are secure today, instead of having to wait for you to get around
to each PC.  All of those maintenance tasks and PC reviews can be automated,
too.

 

From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

Completely false as I'm doing it now and did it in my previous 2 jobs.   

 

If I had to wait for my domain admins to finally get it to work right we'd
have been several hundred patches behind.   The additional advantage, since
I'm not in a nice pristine homogenous environment, is a hands on review of
what's on the PC, do some maintenance, etc.   

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

Fixed that for you...

 

-Original Message-
From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

In Kingman? Wow. 

 

Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a
failure for many reasons. I work for basically an ADC subnet, and I try to
manually touch every machine (about 200) on a regular basis. 

 

Obviously that's not practical for everyone anyone.  

 

-Original Message-

From: Charlie Kaiser [ mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org
mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:03 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Patch management recommendations

 

I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we
increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10
seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products
for a variety of tasks.

 

We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm
is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I
haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years
(used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with
the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not
just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS
platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple.

 

I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a
variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And
I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product.

:-)

My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle
all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more
difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without
dedicated patch management admins.

 

 

 

Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that
they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like?

 

Thanks!

 

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 mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org charl...@golden-eagle.org

Kingman, AZ

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RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-17 Thread Rod Trent
Wow.I feel sorry for you, man.  Your life could be a lot easier.  Frankly,
I'm not surprised MS consulting can't get it working.  We were having a
discussion about this last week.  MCS has about as much time to ramp up on
the new products as everyone else, a lot of it has to be done on their own.
So, unless you get a top consultant or a real go-getter, you're better off
doing it on your own.

 

If you do have problems with their org, let me know and I can escalate.  I'd
just need to know who you're working with.  If you're willing to do that,
email me offline.

 

From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

Of course there's a larger problem, none of which is within my control.   

 

They've been screwing around with SCCM for several years, including using MS
(Premier?) consulting. Now they're trying to get 2012 to work. 

 

Not worth the effort at this point.  

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

Well, there's a larger problem then that needs to be addressed.  These
things should be automated. Patching using ConfigMgr is not that tough, and
getting it to work right is not that tough, either.  Maybe offer your help
to get it working.  It'll save you a lot of time and ensure that your
endpoints are secure today, instead of having to wait for you to get around
to each PC.  All of those maintenance tasks and PC reviews can be automated,
too.

 

From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

Completely false as I'm doing it now and did it in my previous 2 jobs.   

 

If I had to wait for my domain admins to finally get it to work right we'd
have been several hundred patches behind.   The additional advantage, since
I'm not in a nice pristine homogenous environment, is a hands on review of
what's on the PC, do some maintenance, etc.   

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

Fixed that for you...

 

-Original Message-
From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Patch management recommendations

 

In Kingman? Wow. 

 

Anyway, AZ Dept of Corrections tries to use SCCM. I'd say it's been a
failure for many reasons. I work for basically an ADC subnet, and I try to
manually touch every machine (about 200) on a regular basis. 

 

Obviously that's not practical for everyone anyone.  

 

-Original Message-

From: Charlie Kaiser [ mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org
mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org]

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:03 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Patch management recommendations

 

I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we
increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10
seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products
for a variety of tasks.

 

We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm
is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I
haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years
(used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with
the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not
just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS
platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple.

 

I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a
variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And
I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product.

:-)

My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle
all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more
difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without
dedicated patch management admins.

 

 

 

Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that
they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like?

 

Thanks!

 

***

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 mailto:charl...@golden-eagle.org charl...@golden-eagle.org

Kingman, AZ

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RE: Patch management recommendations

2013-01-16 Thread Rod Trent
Make sure to add SolarWinds Patch Manager to your list.

 

http://www.solarwinds.com/patch-manager.aspx 

 

From: joseph palmieri [mailto:jpalm...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 9:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Patch management recommendations

 


look at LANDesk security suite (not cheep) it has all the functionality you
need and more...only downside is tech support reps look to close trouble
ticket without resolving issue

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From: Charlie Kaiser charl...@golden-eagle.org
Subject: Patch management recommendations
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 6:03 PM

I work for a consulting firm that manages a variety of SMB clients. As we
increase our client load and the size of the clients (moving from the 3-10
seat to the 50-1000 seat clients) we are implementing more advanced products
for a variety of tasks.

We are currently looking at patch management solutions. Our current paradigm
is a mix of WSUS and manual intervention, but it's not enough, obviously. I
haven't used a centralized patch management system for around 5-6 years
(used to use early versions of Shavlik) so I haven't been keeping up with
the market. We're now looking for something that does 3rd party apps, not
just MS stuff, so WSUS is off the table. Our clients are all on MS
platforms, though; almost no *nix or Apple.

I don't envision a one-size-fits-all product. I expect that we'll want a
variety of solutions tailored to the size and complexity of the client. And
I have no illusions about the ease of patch management given any product.
:-)
My boss would love an MSP-style of centrally managed product that can handle
all our clients, but my belief is that trying to go that route is much more
difficult than doing per-client implementations, especially without
dedicated patch management admins.

Having said all that, is anyone working with patch management systems that
they really like for this space? Also, any you really DON'T like?

Thanks!

***
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charl...@golden-eagle.org
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RE: PC/server management

2013-01-15 Thread Rod Trent
Ahem...Windows Intune

Sent from Windows Phone 8

-Original Message-
From: Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com
Sent: ‎1/‎15/‎2013 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: PC/server management

What kind of a footprint does Kace introduce to a system?
 
I have many engineers who are literally “cycle counters” and will notice just 
about anything installed and start complaining about wasted resources.
 
They run the servers hard and like them lean as possible.
 
The Kace people have been after me to allow them on the engineering servers…..
 
 
 
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PC/server management
 
I just had the Kace rep in my office yesterday afternoon and it seems like a 
pretty comprehensive product.  I am going to check out the Landesk lunch and 
learn later this month as well.  
 
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote:
Folks,
 
Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only at 
this time).  At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great.  I am 
looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional 
suggestions.
 
At my new job we  have System Center Essentials 2007.  It's not so good but it 
is old and I understand that product is EOL.
 
Looking for:  patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting, ability 
to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD 
memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super 
important since we already own a product for this).  Embedded help desk, even 
if basic, would be a bonus.  This place doesn't have one currently.
 
This would be for about 350 nodes.   Can be appliance, vmware machine, or even 
hosted.  As long as it does what I need.
 
Thanks,
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RE: PC/server management

2013-01-15 Thread Rod Trent
Just patching?  Have you looked at the page today.  Rev 4 was just released.
Provides everything you'd find in ConfigMgr, except in the Cloud.

 

www.windowsintune.com 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PC/server management

 

I looked at the Intune page and it seems to focus on patching but not much
else.  It might do more but Microsoft's web page on it does not give much
information. 

 

KBox runs as an agent over port 80 or 443 - depends on if you want to use
certs.  I've ever seen any high utilization from agents, even when running
force inventory, patching, app push.I never used it for OS push or
imaging so I can't speak to that.

 

Tell your engineers to give it a try..  Or do they prefer to manually patch
everything on those servers?  

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PC/server management

 

 

 

Hey Rod, how are things?  Does intune give you the ability to do lifecycle
management?

 

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Ahem...Windows Intune

Sent from Windows Phone 8

  _  

From: Mathew Shember mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com 
Sent: 1/15/2013 2:21 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 

Subject: RE: PC/server management

What kind of a footprint does Kace introduce to a system?

 

I have many engineers who are literally cycle counters and will notice
just about anything installed and start complaining about wasted resources.

 

They run the servers hard and like them lean as possible.

 

The Kace people have been after me to allow them on the engineering
servers...

 

 

 

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PC/server management

 

I just had the Kace rep in my office yesterday afternoon and it seems like a
pretty comprehensive product.  I am going to check out the Landesk lunch and
learn later this month as well.  

 

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote:

Folks,

 

Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only
at this time).  At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great.
I am looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional
suggestions.

 

At my new job we  have System Center Essentials 2007.  It's not so good but
it is old and I understand that product is EOL.

 

Looking for:  patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting,
ability to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD
memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super
important since we already own a product for this).  Embedded help desk,
even if basic, would be a bonus.  This place doesn't have one currently.

 

This would be for about 350 nodes.   Can be appliance, vmware machine, or
even hosted.  As long as it does what I need.

 

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RE: PC/server management

2013-01-14 Thread Rod Trent
Windows Intune? 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PC/server management

 

Folks,

 

Looking for recommendations for pc/server management (Windows devices only
at this time).  At my last job I used Kace appliances and they were great.
I am looking at those this time but thought I'd ask the list for additional
suggestions.

 

At my new job we  have System Center Essentials 2007.  It's not so good but
it is old and I understand that product is EOL.

 

Looking for:  patch distribution/management, inventorying, reporting,
ability to create granular groups based on factors like IP, machine type, AD
memberships, OU location, software deployment, and remote control (not super
important since we already own a product for this).  Embedded help desk,
even if basic, would be a bonus.  This place doesn't have one currently.

 

This would be for about 350 nodes.   Can be appliance, vmware machine, or
even hosted.  As long as it does what I need.

 

Thanks,

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RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

2013-01-09 Thread Rod Trent
You can get that type of time with the presenters at TechEd, too.

 

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

 

One more thing I would add about Tech Mentor is that it's muchmuch... 
smaller than TechEd. So the size of the audiences is less intimidating. This 
also gives you more face time with the instructors for one-on-one discussions, 
if that is something that might interest you. 


Christopher Bodnar 
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and Engineering Services 


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From:itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.com 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:01/09/2013 08:30 AM 
Subject:RE: TechEd vs TechMentor 

  _  




I have attended TechMentor like 6 times now.  I always get great information 
from the tracks I choose. 
I use SQL, Exchange, Cisco ASA, Cisco IOS, Ironports, LogRhythm SIEM product, 
Windows 2003,2008 and Windows XP and 7.  Active Directory at 2008 R2 level with 
TrendMicro for Antivirus. 
So this is good for me.  I have not ever looked at TechEd, mostly because I 
thought it was for educators and trainers more the System Admins like us.  
After reading some of the responses I will look at Tech Ed and see if it would 
fit for me.  I am really biased on TechMentor though because I take their ideas 
bounce them off this list and my Auditors and then implement my own creative 
ideas from there.  But without the starting place I would be more lost than I 
seem with I post…. 
Hope that helps a little.? 
  
From: Damien Solodow [ mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu 
mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Posted At: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:14 PM
Posted To: itli...@imcu.com
Conversation: TechEd vs TechMentor
Subject: TechEd vs TechMentor 
  
It looks like I might be able to make one of these for the first time. 
Any advice on which is the better/more useful event? Are they about the same 
price for registration normally (TechEd registration isn’t open yet to check)? 
  
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RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

2013-01-08 Thread Rod Trent
Which apps do you deal with the most? 

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 5:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: TechEd vs TechMentor

 

It looks like I might be able to make one of these for the first time. 

Any advice on which is the better/more useful event? Are they about the same
price for registration normally (TechEd registration isn't open yet to
check)?

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.447.6014 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

500 North Meridian St

Suite 500

Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213

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RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

2013-01-08 Thread Rod Trent
Keep in mind.TechEd registration has usually opened by now, well, actually
they leave it open all year long. 

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 5:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

 

Good to know. J 

What has TechEd pricing been like?

 

DAMIEN SOLODOW

Systems Engineer

317.447.6033 (office)

317.447.6014 (fax)

HARRISON COLLEGE

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 5:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

 

I have to agree with Webster, I would side with Tech Ed, especially when you
go to the whiteboard sessions in which you can draw out your solutions with
MVP's and other folks that are SME's on their particular areas. I remember a
few years ago going over a IIS 7.0 design and one of the M$ folks basically
told me they just setup something like it just a few months ago. I was
pretty impressed. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

ezi...@lifespan.org

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 5:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

 

You will get nothing on the last two at either conference.

 

IMO, TechMentor is for more Beginner to Intermediate level folk.  The one I
went to in August was an anomaly.  It was at MS HQ and most sessions were
extremely technical.

 

TechEd runs the range from Beginner to Advanced but the average is
Intermediate.

 

Thanks

 

 

Webster

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

 

Windows Server, Exchange, SQL, PowerShell, VMware vCloud, Citrix XenApp.

 

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Subject: RE: TechEd vs TechMentor

 

Which apps do you deal with the most? 

 

From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] 
Subject: TechEd vs TechMentor

 

It looks like I might be able to make one of these for the first time. 

Any advice on which is the better/more useful event? Are they about the same
price for registration normally (TechEd registration isn't open yet to
check)?

 

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RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...

2012-11-29 Thread Rod Trent
It's clear.keyboard is extra.

 

Both versions will both include a Surface pen with Palm Block technology
and include the ability to use a Touch Cover or Type Cover (sold
separately).

 

 

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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...

 

I was under the impression that it included the touch keyboard, just like
RT.

 

But it isn't clear from the announcement or the website.

 

The price is basically iPad + Windows Pro. It's higher than I wanted, but I
am not surprised.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Surface with Windows 8 Pro announced...

 

This is my take on it:

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/29/microsoft-surface-with-windows-8
-pro-gets-official-pricing-and-january-2013-availability/ 

 

However, I'd be interested in your take on it.  Is it priced right?

 

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RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-26 Thread Rod Trent
You can also customize that menu…

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/26/customizing-the-power-users-task
s-menu-in-windows-8/ 

 

From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Just move your mouse to bottom left and you will get a “Start button” of
sorts, which of course brings you back to the new UI  where you can see all
of your apps (what, you mean you use legacy ones!?).  Quick launch and
desktop shortcuts for speed.  Alternatively top right with mouse to Charms
menu and search applications.  Neither way quite the same, but if you really
don’t want to touch the keyboard …

 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 21 November 2012 17:31
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC

 

I know thousands of users who very rarely use the keyboard. Especially for
starting apps. Having to learn to utilize it after 17 years is something of
a pain for those unaccustomed to it.

 

On 21 November 2012 17:03, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Hit the “Start” button on the keyboard, and just start typing the name of
the app.

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:37 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC

 

OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search works very well but
working on the desktop how do I get to my programs with no Start button?
Bing gives me now aswers.


Stefan

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to
be shut off.  Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond?

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

“You no longer have to “pre-tell” Windows that you want to shut down and let
it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you
just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power
Settings)”

 

How enlightening! We’ve gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn’t use
the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems
weird. “What? I can use the device’s power button to turn the Windows device
off? That’s CRAZY!”. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make…

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of
the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that
the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally
onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but
once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard
to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect
sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device
(whatever it might be). You no longer have to “pre-tell” Windows that you
want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now
hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever
you told it to do (Power Settings). This won’t work in some environments
where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses
it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking
back up take my machines on average 2 seconds.

Tim

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

J  I’m running all three – plus a desktop.

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Keep the Win 8 info coming! I’ve been tasked with kicking it around in our
environment.

 

Laptop, Surface and a phone.

 

Regards,

 

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From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI),
you practically run in desktop mode anyway.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Window 8 on your PC

 

Are you guys

RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-26 Thread Rod Trent
Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and tablet 
for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win devices.  I feel 
liberated.


-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues 
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with 
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we 
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday 
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: windows phone 8
 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 
 It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
 because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
 purchased.
 My wife's been lasting as well.
 


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RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-26 Thread Rod Trent
Windows Phone is available on Verizon, too.  

 

I’d never go WP8 unless it was available on Verizon.  Not wanting to trade
one woe for another.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

 

I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.

 

This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking
forward to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with
Verizon is up.




 

 


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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com
wrote:

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me
a few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X,
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up
an hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: windows phone 8
 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
 because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
purchased.
 My wife's been lasting as well.



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RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-26 Thread Rod Trent
Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want.  But, to tell you 
the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc.

Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing.

I've been down just about every tablet/phone road.  Touchpad, Android, iOS.  
It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8 interface 
makes you *want* to use it.  It's really hard to describe.  Windows 8 UI makes 
iOS and Android feel old and tired.



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
 tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
 devices.  I feel liberated.

I'm curious: What's liberating?

I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still 
using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad 
with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.

What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Rod Trent
[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
12:14:38 -0800
Subject: RE: windows phone 8


 Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
 tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
 devices.  I feel liberated.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the 
 issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We 
 went with different phones based on personal preference regarding size 
 and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
 I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for 
 everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
 Tim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so 
 give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and 
 heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 
 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day 
 every day I might go down the HTC route ...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and 
 hung screens.
 
 The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just 
 showed up an hour or so ago.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
 
 Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
 
 ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: windows phone 8
  From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
  Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
  To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  
  
  It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
  because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, 
  just
 purchased.
  My wife's been lasting as well.
  
 
 
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RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-26 Thread Rod Trent
I had the new Razr Maxx for over 90 days, and they allowed me to trade it in
for the HTC 8x.

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

Fwiw I have often gotten upgrades from them before the contract is up.  I
have been successful as much as 5 months ahead of time.  They have a system
to ‘mark’ valued customers based on how long you have been there, how much
you spend, how much trouble you have been and how quickly you pay your bill.

 

Sometimes you have to call back two or three times. Also early in the week
is better according to my sources. Sunday evening or Monday morning.

 

I will be calling them this weekend to get my Note 2.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

 

I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for
everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.

 

This is what I've been hearing from a number of people, and I'm looking
forward to moving away from Android as well, as soon as my contract with
Verizon is up.




 

 


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On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com
wrote:

I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the issues
mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. We went with
different phones based on personal preference regarding size and feel and we
are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks later.
I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for everyday
use and don't even get me going on battery life.
Tim


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]

Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me
a few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X,
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up
an hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: windows phone 8
 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com


 It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC
 because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just
purchased.
 My wife's been lasting as well.



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RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-26 Thread Rod Trent
We know that all companies track for various reasons.  However, Google tracks 
for more nefarious reasons.

Number 1: they make money off of tracking you.
Number 2: do some research on Google's ties to the US gov't.

Apple and Microsoft may track you, but their revenue stream is quite a bit 
different. 



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 4:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

And you don't think (MS|Apple|Whomever) is tracking you?

Well if the WP8 interface is the same as the Window 8 RT interface, I'll be 
less than enthusiastic. I guess I'll have to try one out to be sure. 


--Matt Ross

On Nov 26, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

 Android is pretty much open space to do with what you want.  But, to tell you 
 the truth, it became a chore just managing apps, and app locations, etc.
 
 Plus, there's the whole Google tracks everything you do thing.
 
 I've been down just about every tablet/phone road.  Touchpad, Android, iOS.  
 It's not something I can put my finger on, just that the Windows 8 interface 
 makes you *want* to use it.  It's really hard to describe.  Windows 8 UI 
 makes iOS and Android feel old and tired.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
 tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
 devices.  I feel liberated.
 
 I'm curious: What's liberating?
 
 I don't have a Windows phone to play with, so I can't reference. I am still 
 using an old iPhone 3GS (which does me just fine) and I have an HP Touchpad 
 with Cyanogoenmod 8 on it, so I have experience with iOS 6 and ICS.
 
 What makes the Windows Phone 8 so much better?
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rod Trent
 [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
 Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012
 12:14:38 -0800
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 
 Agreed, on not missing Android.  I've been using Android on phone and 
 tablet for a couple years, and just finished moving to all Win 
 devices.  I feel liberated.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:22 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 I have the 8X while my wife has a Nokia 810 (doesn't have any of the 
 issues mentioned about the 920) and they are both excellent phones. 
 We went with different phones based on personal preference regarding 
 size and feel and we are both very happy with our choices 2 almost 2 weeks 
 later.
 I certainly don't miss Android, Windows Phone 8 is far superior for 
 everyday use and don't even get me going on battery life.
 Tim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:44 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so 
 give me a few days to see if the coolness wears off.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and 
 heavier and less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 
 in spec to the 8X, but think as something to carry around all day 
 every day I might go down the HTC route ...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and 
 hung screens.
 
 The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just 
 showed up an hour or so ago.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
 Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: windows phone 8
 
 Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life
 
 Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...
 
 ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
 
  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: windows phone 8
 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 
 It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
 because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, 
 just
 purchased.
 My wife's been lasting as well.
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
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RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-21 Thread Rod Trent
I'm digging the 8x.  Of course, it still has that new car smell, so give me a 
few days to see if the coolness wears off.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Just had a look at the two together.  Nokia is a lot thicker and heavier and 
less pleasant to hold in the hand IMHO.  I prefer the 920 in spec to the 8X, 
but think as something to carry around all day every day I might go down the 
HTC route ...


-Original Message-
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: 19 November 2012 19:18
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
From: joeu...@chronic.org [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: windows phone 8
 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 
 It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
 because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
 purchased.
 My wife's been lasting as well.
 


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RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Rod Trent
Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to
be shut off.  Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond?

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let
it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you
just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power
Settings)

 

How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use
the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems
weird. What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device
off? That's CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of
the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that
the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally
onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but
once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard
to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect
sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device
(whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you
want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now
hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever
you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments
where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses
it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking
back up take my machines on average 2 seconds.

Tim

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

J  I'm running all three - plus a desktop.

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our
environment.

 

Laptop, Surface and a phone.

 

Regards,

 

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From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI),
you practically run in desktop mode anyway.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Window 8 on your PC

 

Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it
as-is and learning new tricks? 

David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Rod Trent
Hit the Start button on the keyboard, and just start typing the name of
the app.

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC

 

OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search works very well but
working on the desktop how do I get to my programs with no Start button?
Bing gives me now aswers.


Stefan

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to
be shut off.  Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond?

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let
it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you
just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power
Settings)

 

How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use
the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems
weird. What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device
off? That's CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of
the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that
the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally
onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but
once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard
to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect
sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device
(whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you
want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now
hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever
you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments
where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses
it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking
back up take my machines on average 2 seconds.

Tim

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

J  I'm running all three - plus a desktop.

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our
environment.

 

Laptop, Surface and a phone.

 

Regards,

 

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology

Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073

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From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI),
you practically run in desktop mode anyway.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Window 8 on your PC

 

Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it
as-is and learning new tricks? 

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RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-21 Thread Rod Trent
Hit the Windows key, type a single letter.  Apps is the first area to come
up.

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Hit the windows key and use your mouse to look through all Apps.

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC

 

But if you don't know the name of the Application and you would like to
browse the installed Applications, can't that be done?

 

Stefan

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Hit the Start button on the keyboard, and just start typing the name of
the app.

 

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:37 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC

 

OK, this may be a really stupid question, I know search works very well but
working on the desktop how do I get to my programs with no Start button?
Bing gives me now aswers.


Stefan

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

Also, consider that Windows 8 is built for devices that are never meant to
be shut off.  Why give easy access to a function that we are moving beyond?

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:56 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you want to shut down and let
it handle everything for you. Windows is now hardware aware enough that you
just hit the power and Windows does whatever you told it to do (Power
Settings)

 

How enlightening! We've gotten so used to the scenario where we couldn't use
the power button to turn a device off that now being able to do so seems
weird. What? I can use the device's power button to turn the Windows device
off? That's CRAZY!. Amazing what mind shift just one sentence can make.

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Running the same 4 here, except we went with the Samsung Slates instead of
the Surface, they are excellent machines. Once I demonstrated to users that
the Start Page is just where their Start Button went to they were totally
onboard. It is a total mind shift (just like Office 2003 to Office 2007, but
once you make that shift it is much more useful. As for Shutdown being hard
to get to, what I was told by a friend at Microsoft (and which makes perfect
sense once you think about it) is just use the power button on your device
(whatever it might be). You no longer have to pre-tell Windows that you
want to shut down and let it handle everything for you. Windows is now
hardware aware enough that you just hit the power and Windows does whatever
you told it to do (Power Settings). This won't work in some environments
where the power button is not accessible, but for the majority of businesses
it works just fine, and it is incredibly fast! Going to Sleep and waking
back up take my machines on average 2 seconds.

Tim

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 3:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

J  I'm running all three - plus a desktop.

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our
environment.

 

Laptop, Surface and a phone.

 

Regards,

 

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology

Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073

email: dgu...@che.org

Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440

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helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.

Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI),
you practically run in desktop mode anyway.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Window 8 on your PC

 

Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it
as-is and learning new tricks? 

David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-20 Thread Rod Trent
J  I'm running all three - plus a desktop.

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Keep the Win 8 info coming! I've been tasked with kicking it around in our
environment.

 

Laptop, Surface and a phone.

 

Regards,

 

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology

Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073

email: dgu...@che.org

Office:  610.550.3595 | Cell: 610.955.6528 | Fax: 610.271.9440

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helpdesk @ 610-492-3839.

Description: Description: Description: InfoService-Logo240

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Unless all of your apps are from the Windows 8 store (with the modern UI),
you practically run in desktop mode anyway.

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Window 8 on your PC

 

Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it
as-is and learning new tricks? 

David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

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RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-20 Thread Rod Trent
I haven't done any modifications, except adding a Shutdown tile:

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/11/20/make-shutting-down-windows-8-les
s-annoying/

 

I work in desktop mode the majority of the time on the desktop and laptop,
and just have my frequent apps lined up and pinned along the taskbar.

 

From: Stephen Holtz [mailto:ste...@addisonreserve.cc] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Window 8 on your PC

 

Playing around as is.  I already configured desktop mode to be like win7
without any add-ons.

 

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To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Window 8 on your PC

 

Are you guys changing your Windows 8 UI to be more like Win7 or leaving it
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RE: Window 8 on your PC

2012-11-20 Thread Rod Trent
There is talk that the Start button will be coming back in a future update.



-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Window 8 on your PC

We won't be deploying it this school year, that's for sure. It's just too
late and we would get a lot of negative feedback. Also we tend to hold off
on such deployments until the product has a little shake-down time and we
get a break to do upgrades.

Personally, I'm not looking forward to 8 on the desktop in a lab
environment. One nitpick of my own: It's very difficult to log off, which is
something every 7-18 year old in our schools will have to do. While some
know that you can quickly find a logout with Ctrl-Alt-Del, most don't. Last,
most of the software run by our users aren't in the DCIM* interface. So
really, there isn't a feature that is yet pushing us to Win8 yet.

I have seen start-button replacements, like Start8, but we like to go with
the Officially supported versions of things if we can. Thus, if Microsoft
makes it an option to stick people to the Desktop and give them a way to
launch programs/logoff, I'll give it another try.

(* DCIM - Don't call it Metro)


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-19 Thread Rod Trent
Lots of folks complaining about it.  Also complaining of reboots and hung 
screens.

The HTC 8x seems to be the better of the two releases.  Mine just showed up an 
hour or so ago.



-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

Sure, you might be a lucky one... google - 920 battery life

Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: windows phone 8
 From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, November 19, 2012 3:43 am
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
 
 It does?  Mine's been lasting a day or two.  I have turned off NFC 
 because well, I have no NFC devices.  I also avoid ad based apps, just 
 purchased.
 My wife's been lasting as well.
 


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RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-15 Thread Rod Trent
Uhhh…Blackberry has been beat on enterprise email for a few years.

 

 

From: Senter, John [mailto:john.sen...@etrade.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I am also thinking about the Nokia 920.  The reviews look good.  I am a 
Blackberry user and have been for years, you cannot beat them for enterprise 
mail.  So one thing that use a lot is Exchange Notes, and it turns out that 
Microsoft does not sync Notes.  This is also the case for iPhone and android, 
which is why I was looking at the Windows Phone.  I find it hard to believe 
that MS is not fully using ActiveSync on their device.  I am not alone, as this 
seems to be a be issue with Blackberry convertees. So far I have not been able 
to find a way to get Notes on the phone without having to move them to OneNote, 
which I do not want to separate that out.

 

And the consumer side of me is hesitant on a Windows Phone because of lack of 
apps.  I not one that wants much in the way of apps but the key areas I want 
are not there.  I use several banks and none of them have full apps like on 
iPhone and android; I have Comcast and they have nothing on Windows phone; and 
I have a young son that loves Disney and they only have apps on iPhone.  From 
the app side, iPhone has it all, but I am doing my best to resist drinking the 
Kool-Aid.

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: windows phone 8

 

I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even NewEgg. 
Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device but, what I’ve 
heard has all been pretty positive if you like Windows Phones.

 

Regards,

 

Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology

Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
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From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: windows phone 8

 

Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons they’d like to 
share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world how is the app 
situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss from the ios or android 
world of apps and features?

 

All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details that make or 
break a phone for me.

 

Thanks.

 

Bill

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RE: windows phone 8

2012-11-15 Thread Rod Trent
:)  Passwords.

And, really, Exchange notes were replaced by OneNote long ago.  Now, with WP8 
and Win8/RT it makes more sense to use OneNote with SkyDrive.


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: windows phone 8

As someone who doesn't have Exchange, I'm curious: What's the big killer 
features of Exchange Notes? What makes it so important to have on your phone?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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To: NT System Admin Issues
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10:09:43 -0800
Subject: Re: windows phone 8


 I have the Nokia 920 on order with Rogers here in Toronto, all the 
 reviews I have read is that it’s big and heavy but other vice a great 
 phone, I also use Notes quite extensively as well, for my iPad I use 
 iMExchange2, for the free version I just have to manually updated it. 
 For my current phone the Samsung Galaxy S III, I have not bothered 
 with Notes yet and now I’m waiting for the Nokia so well see . .
 
 Stefan
 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org wrote:
 
  I always trust the reviews on sites like Engadget, Gizmodo and even 
  NewEgg. Might not be much out there yet as it’s a fairly new device 
  but, what I’ve heard has all been pretty positive if you like 
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  *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
  *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:54 AM
  *To:* NT System Admin Issues
  *Subject:* OT: windows phone 8
 
  ** **
 
  Thinking about getting the nokia 920.  Anyone have any reasons 
  they’d
 like
  to share about why or why not to get this device.  Also, real world 
  how is the app situation for winphone 8?  Anything you really miss 
  from the ios
 or
  android world of apps and features?
 
   
 
  All of the official reviews always seem to miss the real details 
  that make or break a phone for me.
 
   
 
  Thanks.
 
   
 
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RE: Instant Messaging replacement

2012-11-06 Thread Rod Trent
Skype?  Even Microsoft is moving away from Messenger to Skype.  

 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Instant Messaging replacement

 

Every few days I have to reinstall it because the database becomes corrupt.  
The biggest issue is that I can set an ldap ou but it won't traverse the 
directory.  There were posts on how to do that but I never could get that to 
work reliably.

On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote:

I'm curios to hear what stability problems you were having with Openfire. I 
have not used it for a few years, but it seemed quite stable to me. What would 
go wrong?

 

--Matt Ross


On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote:

We currently use OpenFire for the back-end Instant Messaging.  It is free, but 
not particularly stable and I spend more time on it than I would prefer.

 

I am looking for alternatives.  I'd like something that can run on Windows, 
Andriod, and IOS devices.  Anyone have any suggestions other than Lync (I'm 
already looking at that one).  In-house or hosted, does not matter as long as 
it integrates with AD.

 

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RE: Instant Messaging replacement

2012-11-06 Thread Rod Trent
Skype has video capability, but not required.

 

 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging replacement

 

I thought Skype was more video focused?  

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Instant Messaging replacement

 

Skype?  Even Microsoft is moving away from Messenger to Skype.  

 

 

From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@sfgtrust.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Instant Messaging replacement

 

Every few days I have to reinstall it because the database becomes corrupt.  
The biggest issue is that I can set an ldap ou but it won't traverse the 
directory.  There were posts on how to do that but I never could get that to 
work reliably.

On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote:

I'm curios to hear what stability problems you were having with Openfire. I 
have not used it for a few years, but it seemed quite stable to me. What would 
go wrong?

 

--Matt Ross


On Nov 6, 2012, at 9:29 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@sfgtrust.com wrote:

We currently use OpenFire for the back-end Instant Messaging.  It is free, but 
not particularly stable and I spend more time on it than I would prefer.

 

I am looking for alternatives.  I'd like something that can run on Windows, 
Andriod, and IOS devices.  Anyone have any suggestions other than Lync (I'm 
already looking at that one).  In-house or hosted, does not matter as long as 
it integrates with AD.

 

Thanks.

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RE: New Surface RT reviews

2012-11-01 Thread Rod Trent
He's from the future.


-Original Message-
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews

I like the one comment below the review about liking it because you can use
it on your lap.

Yeah, that's unprecedented...

Regards,

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Messaging Services
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610-492-3839.


-Original Message-
From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 2:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New Surface RT reviews

I found it quite useful.


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 The link:



 http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/jackmadden/archive/2012/10/29/i-spent
 -the-weekend-with-a-microsoft-surface-rt-tablet-here-s-my-review.aspx







 From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:56 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: New Surface RT reviews



 Jack Madden did a decent review over on BrianMadden.com. Sadly I am 
 too tired to post a link as I am worn out from community 
 participation. Still trying to get used to it, hats off to Web, MBS et 
 al who do it almost constantly

 ---Blackberried

 

 From: Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com

 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:53:49 -0400

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 More to come.  J



 There's simply too much about this thing to cover it in a single post.





 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:39 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 For those that are interested Rod Trent has posted his review of his 
 Surface at 
 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/10/31/my-review-the-microsoft-su
 rface-rt/

 If you are interested and look on the site you will find other 
 interesting articles as he was setting up his machine.

 Thank you Rod!

 Jon

 

 From: r...@finnesey.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews
 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:39:56 +

 Is POP3 still widely used?  I would like most mail systems would 
 support IMAP now a days.



 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:50 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 Doesn't support POP3, though.



 One gotcha if you're going to sync a Windows 8 PC with your Microsoft
 Surface:



 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/10/26/beware-the-windows-8-to-wi
 ndows-rt-profile-sync/



 From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:10 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 The integrated Mail and Calendar apps seem pretty nice for a touchpad 
 type scenario. Their certainly leaps and bounds better than the iPad 
 equivalents



 Thanks,

 Brian Desmond

 br...@briandesmond.com



 w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132



 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:46 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 I got one tonight.  I really like it I just wish it included  Outlook.



 Cheers

 Ryan





 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: New Surface RT reviews



 Has anyone on the list gotten one of the new Surface RT machines and 
 had time to actually play with it.  I need to replace my wife's laptop 
 and for what she does 99% of the time I think this would be a good 
 fit.  I would prefer to hear from people I know not some magazine 
 reviewer which gets paid for their opinion.

 Thanks a lot,

 Jon

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RE: New Surface RT reviews

2012-10-31 Thread Rod Trent
More on that:

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-office-for-windows-rt-how-to-move-to-a-commer
cial-use-license-705893/ 


-Original Message-
From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New Surface RT reviews

One thing bugs me.  The Office apps that come with the RT includes language
that says they're not for commercial use.  Anyone else bugged by this?


On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 More to come.  J



 There's simply too much about this thing to cover it in a single post.





 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:39 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 For those that are interested Rod Trent has posted his review of his 
 Surface at 
 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/10/31/my-review-the-microsoft-su
 rface-rt/

 If you are interested and look on the site you will find other 
 interesting articles as he was setting up his machine.

 Thank you Rod!

 Jon

 

 From: r...@finnesey.com
 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews
 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:39:56 +

 Is POP3 still widely used?  I would like most mail systems would 
 support IMAP now a days.



 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:50 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 Doesn't support POP3, though.



 One gotcha if you're going to sync a Windows 8 PC with your Microsoft
 Surface:



 http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/10/26/beware-the-windows-8-to-wi
 ndows-rt-profile-sync/



 From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com]
 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 6:10 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 The integrated Mail and Calendar apps seem pretty nice for a touchpad 
 type scenario. Their certainly leaps and bounds better than the iPad 
 equivalents



 Thanks,

 Brian Desmond

 br...@briandesmond.com



 w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132



 From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 11:46 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: New Surface RT reviews



 I got one tonight.  I really like it I just wish it included  Outlook.



 Cheers

 Ryan





 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: New Surface RT reviews



 Has anyone on the list gotten one of the new Surface RT machines and 
 had time to actually play with it.  I need to replace my wife's laptop 
 and for what she does 99% of the time I think this would be a good 
 fit.  I would prefer to hear from people I know not some magazine 
 reviewer which gets paid for their opinion.

 Thanks a lot,

 Jon

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RE: DDOS Attacks continue targeting Tobacco Industry

2012-10-19 Thread Rod Trent
They're getting smoked.


-Original Message-
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: DDOS Attacks continue targeting Tobacco Industry

From DHS, if any of your companies or associates are on the list, I would
assume you are going to be seeing more attacks coming up. 

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3.It has come to our attention that tobacco agencies/tobacco company's have
been feeding fuel to the fire as far as keeping this safe plant we know and
love called cannabis illegal for years. It is our time now to show them who
is the boss and that we are not afraid to show action.
This is NOT A THREAT! It's a promise! We are asking all anonymous
hacktivists to help join the party! 
4. 
5.There will be 10 days of DDoS attacks on 10 different tobacco
sites/agencies. Starting October 18th 2012 -- October 27th 2012.
6.Each day we will be attacking a new site. 
7. 
8.Every night at 8:00pm EST (Eastern Standard Time) We will Fire our Laz0rs
towards a specific site/agency. Check down below for more details on attack
dates.
9. 
10.**IMPORTANT**
11.If you do plan on helping with the attack, please make sure you are using
a VPN  make sure your DNS is not leaking when DDoSing!!!
12. 
13.DO NOT USE LOIC!!! 
14.Use HOIC and the WebHive!!!
15. 
16.Also HOIC is pointless without booster scripts so please use a booster
script for the specific site we are attacking!!! (Links Below) 17. 
18.~~
19.**How To Use HOIC**
20. 
21.If your using an older computer with little ram or weak processors.
Set the thread count for 2 or 3. 
22. 
23.If you are using a newer computer with a good amount of ram and
processors. Set the thread count for 4 or 5. 
24. 
25.~~
26.**DNS Leak Check**
27.Once you have set up your VPN. Go to the DNS Leak Checker Link down below
and check to see if your DNS is leaking. If you see anything that has your
ISP (Internet Service Provider) then your DNS IS LEAKING!!!
(Which can be very bad!!)
28. 
29.If you DO NOT see anything with your ISP then your DNS is NOT Leaking!
(Which is good!!) 30.~~
31.**How to use HOIC Booster Scripts**
32. 
33.Just copy and paste the code into any text editor an save it as a .hoic
file.
34.(You can name the booster whatever you want as long as it is a .hoic
extension!!)
35. 
36.Then take the booster script an drag it into the same folder HOIC is in. 
37. 
38.Then when you are ready to attack the a specific site. Find the booster
meant for that specific site an you should be set to fire! 
39. 
40.~~
41.Tools  Goodies
42. 
43.Here's a bunch of links for tools for the attack and TuTs as well as the
WebHive URL.
44. 
45.**(HOIC download link is in the Tools  Goodies paste)** 46. 
47.Tools  Goodies: http://pastebin.com/hRbrhKyd 48. 
49.VPN TuT/Download: http://pastebin.com/mYZRpQ1A 50. 
51.WebHive: http://pastehtml.com/view/cdvr011a5.html
52. 
53.WebHive TuT: http://pastebin.com/BbEfifwA 54. 
55.DNS Leak Checker: http://www.dnsleaktest.com/ 56. 
57.~~
58.**ATTACK DATES!!!**
59. 
60.October 18th: http://www.camel.com/
61. 
62.October 19th: http://www.lm.com/
63. 
64.October 20th: http://www.marlboro.com/ 65. 
66.October 21st: http://www.newport-pleasure.com/ 67. 
68.October 22nd: http://www.rjrt.com/
69. 
70.October 23rd: http://www.altria.com/
71. 
72.October 24th: http://philipmorrisusa.com/ 73. 
74.October 25th: http://pmi.com/
75. 
76.October 26th: http://www.johnmiddletonco.com/ 77. 
78.October 27th: http://www.lorillard.com/ 79. 
80.~~
81.HOIC Booster Scripts
82. 
83.Altria Booster: http://pastebin.com/Zx5Gqu6E 84. 
85.Camel Booster: http://pastebin.com/QbDYxHSR 86. 
87.JohnMiddleton Booster: http://pastebin.com/fibSqGKt 88. 
89.LM Booster: http://pastebin.com/ZV62sgzj 90. 
91.Lorillard Booster: http://pastebin.com/fpybW7NV 92. 
93.Marlboro Booster: http://pastebin.com/X09p2tbA 94. 
95.Newport Booster: http://pastebin.com/FgCVYU0F 96. 
97.PhilipMorris USA Booster: http://pastebin.com/Nnn8zvXA 98. 
99.PhilipMorris International Booster: http://pastebin.com/r02ZBiPz 100. 
101.RJRT Booster: http://pastebin.com/YnaTsJCa
102.~~
103.**WebHive Request URLs**
104. 
105.*Camel*
106.Image URL:

RE: My kind of software license agreement!

2012-10-12 Thread Rod Trent
The “yet” part should scare you.  You start using the program, they throw any 
amount of crazy stuff in the ULA when it’s done—you’ve just lost your house and 
first born.

 

From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: My kind of software license agreement!

 

I take it you didn't click on Next, because otherwise I think the universe 
would implode, or something like that.

Kurt

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Re: Record Skype session?

2012-09-28 Thread Rod Trent
Snagit

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My wife is a college professor who wants to record a Skype session
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and my wife wants to use the recording later in one of her classes.
 
I see a variety of methods to do this.  Anyone have any suggestions for
something that's pretty easy and easy to play back?
 
Thanks

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RE: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection

2012-09-24 Thread Rod Trent
Tell Kent I said, hey when you see him.

 

 

From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 12:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection

 

I don't have any problems per se with how they work, it's just that the
workflow is much more open-ended than wsus is, which makes you plan a bit
more how you want to handle them. Saw a recommendation from an MS blog but
even that didn't give a straight answer.

Also, I'm going to train with Kent Agerlund, a CM MVP next week, so I'm
planning to get as many recommendations as I can during those 3 days.

 

-Anders

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wrote:

What difficulties are you running into with Software Updates? 

 

Joe Heaton

ITB - Enterprise Server Support

 

From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:57 AM


To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection

 

No, you cant push definition updates through another wsus than the one
systems are using. You have to have the updates unmanaged (clients download
best effort).

The question I answered was about SQL and site systems coexisting - my
Endpoint Protection installation is still at the testing stage. Until I get
the SUP part done, I won't consider deploying Endpoint Protection.

 

To be honest I find Software Updates the hardest part of implementing SCCM.
Not having any experience with previous versions, other than No way I'm
doing that, was it always thus?

 

-Anders

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jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:

 Same server. I have my other wsus install coexisting for now. SP1 will
support bringing

 in an existing wsus server. RTM requires that you use an unconfigured wsus
installation.

 

No problem, I actually want to punt the old one anyway.

 

 For me, separate SQL means another VM which means another OS overhead.

 

Yea, I thought about the license after and it seems setup wants it local
anyway, funny in a

single server deployment it omits to remove the port warning for sql.

 

You mentioned your original wsus server is still up, so without any local
wsus config for the

sccm instance (as clients still point to their original wsus server) I
suppose the policy source

definition simply needs to be set to sccm server or url for example, then
clients can happily

use the existing wsus server for os updates etc?

 

Thanks!
jlc

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RE: IE fix available now...

2012-09-20 Thread Rod Trent
Yep.that's what it says.

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE fix available now...

 

Out of cycle release will be Friday from what I heard. 

 

Z

 

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Security Engineer

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Subject: IE fix available now...

 

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RE: IE fix available now...

2012-09-20 Thread Rod Trent
Based on the identified attack landscape:

 

We have analyzed the targeted attack samples that attempt to exploit this
vulnerability. All real attacks we have seen are targeting only 32-bit
versions of Internet Explorer and rely on third-party browser plugins to
either perform efficient heap-spray in memory and/or to bypass the built-in
mitigations of Windows Vista and 7 such as DEP and ASLR. 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE fix available now...

 

Am I missing something, where is the 64 bit version.

 

For computers that are running 64-bit operating systems, the following Fix
it solution only applies to 32-bit versions of Internet Explorer.

 

From: Candee [mailto:can...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE fix available now...

 

Thanks Rod!!



 

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RE: IE fix available now...

2012-09-20 Thread Rod Trent
Seems to also be related to specific plug-ins, but Microsoft doesn't say
which one/ones.  Maybe those plug-ins are only 32bit.

 

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE fix available now...

 

My guess is that with the hugely increased address space of a 64bit process,
randomly poking at the heap in question is simply not efficient.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012 11:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE fix available now...

 

Right, but if I were a bad guy I would be changing my tactics right now to
target 64 bit. Certainly in IE that is a smaller number of targets but the
threat is still the same for those that use 64 bit IE.

 

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE fix available now...

 

Based on the identified attack landscape:

 

We have analyzed the targeted attack samples that attempt to exploit this
vulnerability. All real attacks we have seen are targeting only 32-bit
versions of Internet Explorer and rely on third-party browser plugins to
either perform efficient heap-spray in memory and/or to bypass the built-in
mitigations of Windows Vista and 7 such as DEP and ASLR. 

 

 

From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IE fix available now...

 

Am I missing something, where is the 64 bit version.

 

For computers that are running 64-bit operating systems, the following Fix
it solution only applies to 32-bit versions of Internet Explorer.

 

From: Candee [mailto:can...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IE fix available now...

 

Thanks Rod!!



 

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RE: Personal IT Blog?

2012-09-20 Thread Rod Trent
Best tips:  Write well and write professionally.

 

Remember that Internet content is forever and lives in cache permanently.
Don't write something that could come back to bite you 10 years from now.

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Personal IT Blog?

 

Yes, that can be quite the experience. :)

 

Another cool thing is when a posting to a blog opens the doors to other
writing or implementation opportunities.



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On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
wrote:

As do I. And occasionally, so has Microsoft. J

 

From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:13 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Personal IT Blog?

 

I reference my own stuff as authoritative :-)

---Blackberried

  _  

From: Webster webs...@carlwebster.com 

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:08:13 +

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ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Subject: RE: Personal IT Blog?

 

I mentioned this to ASB last week but what I find really weird is seeing my
stuff referenced as an authoritative source!  That is just plain freaky.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ 

 

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Subject: Re: Personal IT Blog?

 

It's very handy for reference. But I'd recommend making sure you research
your articles well if you're putting together any how-tos, readers on the
Internet tend to seize on any inconsistencies pretty quickly.

 

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RE: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection

2012-09-19 Thread Rod Trent
Awesome solution, particularly if you're also using ConfigMgr 2012.

Yeah...Microsoft has never been one to name anything properly.



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Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection

Hey Guys.

I'm looking at System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection (What a mouthful).
Anybody using this? Anybody like/dislike it compared to other solutions? 


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Ephrata School District

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IE fix available now...

2012-09-19 Thread Rod Trent
http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/09/19/internet-explorer-exploited-vuln
erability-fix-is-available-now/ 

 

 

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RE: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - MS response

2012-09-18 Thread Rod Trent
Listed in the non-affected list.



 

 

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From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:23 AM
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Subject: Re: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - MS response

 

Lots of default mitigations.

 

I wonder if they've actually testing IE10...  Their response is somewhat
ambiguous on that point.



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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:08 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:

MS's response: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/advisory/2757760

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 4:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld

 

Looks like a good night to get around to installing EMET for us.

 

From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld

 

IE 7-9 are vulnerable.. I wonder if this is why I see such an uptick in
Zero-Access lately. 

 

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots, CISSP, Security +, Network +

Security Engineer

Lifespan Organization

ezi...@lifespan.org

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hackers exploit new IE zero-day vulnerability - Computerworld

 

 

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RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Rod Trent
These initiatives, death of the desktop, cloud, BYOD, etc., etc. are just 
vendors trying to find new ways to make money.   For desktops, in this case, 
the margins are so slim now, no one is making any money.  Look at what Dell is 
doing with the acquisition of Quest.  They have long been a hardware company 
but are trying hard to move into software, where actual money can be made.



-Original Message-
From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops?

I agree with Greg.  I think there's always (at least for the foreseeable 
future) going to be a role for desktop machines though I think SOME desktop 
clients are going to be replaced with docked mobile devices.

It may be that 10 years from now most of us are using some sort of tablet that, 
as Greg suggests, slips into a docking station with a real keyboard and large 
monitor(s).

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
__
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www.rolandschorr.com

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From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops?

The desktop isn’t going anywhere really, it's just evolving. What will probably 
fade out (except for high-end needs) is the dedicated non-mobile desktop pc. I 
can easily see were your tablet\phone\whatever  has enough processing and 
graphic power to be sitting in a dock in the office, with full keyboard and 
mouse support, and then is lifted out and taken with you on the go. There will 
always be room for the places that have users that do not need this (Call 
centers, retail, etc) so it never will truly die out.

-Greg 
  

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Death of the Desktops?

Spreadsheets creation and data entry, page layout, photo processing, writing, 
presentation creation - those and more are far more difficult on anything 
without a keyboard and mouse.

Kurt

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Can you imagine writing technical documents or doing CAD on a tablet? 
 Sure the percentages may change, but the desktop will not go away anytime 
 soon.
 It might run on a thin client, but there's still a place for a desktop
 - even if virtual.

 Pundits have been predicting things like the death of Citrix and 
 the year of the Linux desktop for a long while. I haven't noticed 
 either of them happening.

 YMMV, IMO, etc.
 ---Blackberried
 
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 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:40:41 -0400
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Death of the Desktops?

 There are a number of pundits pushing the notion that desktop 
 computing is facing certain death, and especially for desktop 
 computers as we've known them up to now.  Indeed, there are more 
 portable offerings available than desktop machine options, but with a higher 
 price/performance/feature ratio.
 I'm not sure I buy it, especially for many business environments where 
 access to legacy apps is critical.  But it does give me something to 
 consider as we face our annual equipment refresh cycle.

 What are your thoughts?


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RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Rod Trent
I see traditional desktops being replaced by a tablet that docks, giving you 
access to multiple monitors, peripherals, etc.


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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 3:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops?

So would that be the laptops getting replaced with tablets and desktops stay 
largely the same?

-Original Message-
From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops?

I agree with Greg.  I think there's always (at least for the foreseeable 
future) going to be a role for desktop machines though I think SOME desktop 
clients are going to be replaced with docked mobile devices.

It may be that 10 years from now most of us are using some sort of tablet that, 
as Greg suggests, slips into a docking station with a real keyboard and large 
monitor(s).

Ben M. Schorr
Chief Executive Officer
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-Original Message-
From: Greg Olson [mailto:gol...@markettools.com]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops?

The desktop isn’t going anywhere really, it's just evolving. What will probably 
fade out (except for high-end needs) is the dedicated non-mobile desktop pc. I 
can easily see were your tablet\phone\whatever  has enough processing and 
graphic power to be sitting in a dock in the office, with full keyboard and 
mouse support, and then is lifted out and taken with you on the go. There will 
always be room for the places that have users that do not need this (Call 
centers, retail, etc) so it never will truly die out.

-Greg 
  

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Death of the Desktops?

Spreadsheets creation and data entry, page layout, photo processing, writing, 
presentation creation - those and more are far more difficult on anything 
without a keyboard and mouse.

Kurt

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Can you imagine writing technical documents or doing CAD on a tablet? 
 Sure the percentages may change, but the desktop will not go away anytime 
 soon.
 It might run on a thin client, but there's still a place for a desktop
 - even if virtual.

 Pundits have been predicting things like the death of Citrix and 
 the year of the Linux desktop for a long while. I haven't noticed 
 either of them happening.

 YMMV, IMO, etc.
 ---Blackberried
 
 From: Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 12:40:41 -0400
 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues 
 ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: Death of the Desktops?

 There are a number of pundits pushing the notion that desktop 
 computing is facing certain death, and especially for desktop 
 computers as we've known them up to now.  Indeed, there are more 
 portable offerings available than desktop machine options, but with a higher 
 price/performance/feature ratio.
 I'm not sure I buy it, especially for many business environments where 
 access to legacy apps is critical.  But it does give me something to 
 consider as we face our annual equipment refresh cycle.

 What are your thoughts?


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RE: Windows InTune

2012-08-23 Thread Rod Trent
Yeah.I have my reasons for some level of concern, but what's yours?

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows InTune

 

Which scares the crap outta me.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows InTune

 

What exactly do you want to know?

 

InTune has come a long way in a short time and does a great job.  And,
Microsoft is investing heavily in the future of InTune, and will eventually
marry ConfigMgr and InTune.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows InTune

 

We're seeing a greater need for something like Windows InTune for about
10-15 machines that rarely touch our network.  Currently, we have no way to
manage these machines and assure they're receiving Microsoft, Adobe, Java,
or other updates. VIPRE does report home, however, so at least that aspect
is covered.  

 

Any comments regarding InTune usage results or evaluations would be helpful.
TIA...


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RE: PKI big picture?

2012-08-23 Thread Rod Trent
BTW: Plan your PKI appropriately.  There's a patch available now that requires 
strong keys, but won't be mandatory for a bit.

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/08/15/update-to-the-update-that-could-harm-your-system-center-environment-if-youre-not-ready/
 



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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PKI big picture?

Eh, SCOM wants a cert more than SCCM does. IME.

But I still agree with your conclusion.

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Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: PKI big picture?

On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Stephen Wimberly riverside...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 I want to use PKI for SCCM 2012, and it's a nice to have for other servers.

 QUESTION:  If I were to purchase a certificate from an outside trusted 
 vendor like Verisign, could I skip the internal Enterprise server CA 
 and import the purchased certificate directly to my SCCM server?

 From what I have read so far it looks best to purchase a cert, import 
 it to your Enterprise CA and then create certificates from the 
 Enterprise CA but it just sounds redundant.  Am I really seeing this 
 'right'?

I suspect that won't work. We haven't yet brought up SCCM here, but at least 
some MSFT products require not only a cert installed on the server, but also a 
cert installed on the workstation. Even if SCCM doesn't require workstation 
certs, other stuff will.

I'd bite the bullet and put in a proper CA structure, with a root CA (running 
Win2k8R2 standard, probably as a VM) that is shut down 99+% of the time, and an 
intermediate CA (running Win2k8 R2 Enterprise), that is always up and running.

IMHO, if you're big enough to run SCCM, you're big enough to have a PKI.

Kurt

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RE: Twitter via RSS

2012-08-15 Thread Rod Trent
You can do that with Twitter list, too.  So, instead of getting the RSS feed
for a single profile at a time, you can get a single feed for a group of
profiles.  You have to set up your own lists, though.

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tip: Twitter via RSS

 

Many of you mentioned in this thread you have no idea how, nor a desire to
use Twitter.

Well, I am somewhat in that boat, but there ARE some
people/companies/industry groups I wish to follow.

 

For those that use RSS (If you're a Systems Admin, you should be), here is a
neat trick to follow a Twitter account in an RSS feed:

Find a Twitter handle you wish to follow, and paste this into your feed
reader: http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=
http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=%5bTwitterAcc
ountName [TwitterAccountName]

 

Some IT related companies post quality and useful information via Twitter,
like outages and patches

Dell announces their Outlet sales via Twitter, for example.

 

My company is in the Digital Signage Industry, and many of my roles here
overlap into that space, so I follow a lot of Twitter feeds related to
what's new in the industry - and I learn TONS.  Great way to stay informed
and up to speed.

 

I have a few friends I follow as well.  

 

My point: you don't need to be ON Twitter or have an account to utilize it.

 

Food for thought.


Sam

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Social media and real life

 

So.guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that
it's nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics
without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social
media... Hmm..not for me.

 

I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day
and don't even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl' for the data plan). Does
this put me behind the curve these days? I'm guessing the smartphone is
where I am behind the curve the most?

 

Damn, I didn't want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys.

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

 

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RE: Twitter via RSS

2012-08-15 Thread Rod Trent
Of course.  But, Twitter is the safest login token so it's useful to have
anyway.

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Twitter via RSS

 

I imagine you could, but you'd need a Twitter account.

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 3:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Twitter via RSS

 

You can do that with Twitter list, too.  So, instead of getting the RSS feed
for a single profile at a time, you can get a single feed for a group of
profiles.  You have to set up your own lists, though.

 

 

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Tip: Twitter via RSS

 

Many of you mentioned in this thread you have no idea how, nor a desire to
use Twitter.

Well, I am somewhat in that boat, but there ARE some
people/companies/industry groups I wish to follow.

 

For those that use RSS (If you're a Systems Admin, you should be), here is a
neat trick to follow a Twitter account in an RSS feed:

Find a Twitter handle you wish to follow, and paste this into your feed
reader: http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=
http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=%5bTwitterAcc
ountName [TwitterAccountName]

 

Some IT related companies post quality and useful information via Twitter,
like outages and patches

Dell announces their Outlet sales via Twitter, for example.

 

My company is in the Digital Signage Industry, and many of my roles here
overlap into that space, so I follow a lot of Twitter feeds related to
what's new in the industry - and I learn TONS.  Great way to stay informed
and up to speed.

 

I have a few friends I follow as well.  

 

My point: you don't need to be ON Twitter or have an account to utilize it.

 

Food for thought.


Sam

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Social media and real life

 

So.guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that
it's nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics
without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social
media... Hmm..not for me.

 

I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day
and don't even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl' for the data plan). Does
this put me behind the curve these days? I'm guessing the smartphone is
where I am behind the curve the most?

 

Damn, I didn't want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys.

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

 

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RE: Social media and real life

2012-08-14 Thread Rod Trent
They're all tools to get information, just like anything else.  There's a
stack of tools in the world for that purpose, it's just a matter or
selecting the one that fits you the best.  However, as time progresses,
tools like Twitter (Facebook, uggh) are displacing some of the older tools.
Twitter can be a mess unless you have the right client/app to make sense of
it.  Once you do that, you really don't need any other tool.  I get more
from Twitter than any other mechanism, now.

 

Of course.I'm a tech info junkie.  For those that really don't care about
that stuff, it's probably not worth the effort.

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Social media and real life

 

So.guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that
it's nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics
without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social
media... Hmm..not for me.

 

I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day
and don't even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl' for the data plan). Does
this put me behind the curve these days? I'm guessing the smartphone is
where I am behind the curve the most?

 

Damn, I didn't want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys.

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

 

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RE: Social media and real life

2012-08-14 Thread Rod Trent
J  You weren't following the right people, or filtering the feeds correctly.

 

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Social media and real life

 

I find Facebook useful for keeping in touch with family, friends, and
organizations that I belong to.  I hardly use it for business at all except
for HP and the VM users group I belong to.

 

I had Twitter for a while and dropped it.  I couldn't see how getting tweets
like Going to have pot roast tonight, It's going to be a beautiful day
today, and Gosh, I'm bored could be beneficial.

 

-Paul

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Social media and real life

 

So.guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and that
it's nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the Olympics
without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and other social
media... Hmm..not for me.

 

I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every day
and don't even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl' for the data plan). Does
this put me behind the curve these days? I'm guessing the smartphone is
where I am behind the curve the most?

 

Damn, I didn't want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys.

David Lum 
Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764

 

 

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RE: Social media and real life

2012-08-14 Thread Rod Trent
Yes.



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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Social media and real life

Is the twitterverse available to search engines?

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Webster webs...@carlwebster.com wrote:
 Greetings from New Joisey,

 I use TweetDeck on my PC,  Mac, droid phone and the Twitter client on 
 my iPad.  Or did you mean what do I use Twitter for? :)

 Most of the people I deal with in the server, desktop and application 
 virtualization space and user environment management space do most of 
 their writing on Twitter.  I don't do much on Facebook unless I have 
 posted a new article on my site.  Same on LinkedIn.  Twitter is where 
 most of my action is.  I do have separate personal and business accounts on 
 Twitter.

 And dude, you are so outta touch! :)


 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com


 From: David Lum david@nwea.org
 Subject: RE: Social media and real life

 What do you use for Twitter? And if Webster says I’m outta touch I 
 better get with it! So…where do I start to get caught up? Is (lack of) 
 smartphone the biggest deficiency? I don’t see myself as a techno 
 junkie, but I do like having a broad swath of information and 
 collaboration ability). I only know as much as my collective resources!



 I also REALLY don’t want to be behind the time simply because I’m 
 stubborn – that’s not very flexible which also isn’t good for busness…





 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
 Subject: RE: Social media and real life



 They’re all tools to get information, just like anything else.  
 There’s a stack of tools in the world for that purpose, it’s just a 
 matter or selecting the one that fits you the best.  However, as time 
 progresses, tools like Twitter (Facebook, uggh) are displacing some of the 
 older tools.
 Twitter can be a mess unless you have the right client/app to make 
 sense of it.  Once you do that, you really don’t need any other tool.  
 I get more from Twitter than any other mechanism, now.



 Of course…I’m a tech info junkie.  For those that really don’t care 
 about that stuff, it’s probably not worth the effort.





 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
 Subject: Social media and real life



 So…guys on the local radio station are talking about the Olympics and 
 that “it’s nearly impossible to watch the delayed coverage of the 
 Olympics without knowing the results first, thanks to Twitter and 
 other social media..”. Hmm..not for me.



 I follow exactly nobody on Twitter, and am on Facebook not even every 
 day and don’t even have a smartphone ($30/mo addtl’ for the data 
 plan). Does this put me behind the curve these days? I’m guessing the 
 smartphone is where I am behind the curve the most?



 Damn, I didn’t want to turn into one of those old, out of touch guys…


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RE: System Center 2012 - SQL Server 2012?

2012-08-06 Thread Rod Trent
Soon.  It's generally 30-90 days after a major release (like SQL Server
2012).

 

From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 6:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: System Center 2012 - SQL Server 2012?

 

Has Microsoft given any guidance when SQL Server 2012 will be supported as a
backend DB?

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RE: Microsoft New webmail

2012-08-02 Thread Rod Trent
Ok…so you caught me late on this one, so just responding.

 

I’m not seeing that issue in Chrome, IE9, Firefox, Safari or Opera.

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail

 

IE9 and Firefox 14

 

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 1:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail

 

What browser?

 

Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

Anyone seeing an odd rendering issue – the top of the main frame/div (with the 
search box, or the subject line when composing mail etc.) is hidden behind the 
header frame/div (didn’t look into source to work out whether it’s a frame or 
div or whatever)

 

Cheers

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RE: Microsoft New webmail

2012-08-01 Thread Rod Trent
It's pretty good.  Plus, it's built for a touchscreen.

 

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail

 

Yep.  Just signed up this morning.  One of my in-laws told me about it.

It doesn't look bad at first glance.

 

-Paul

 

 

From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Microsoft New webmail

 

Outlook.com

 

Anyone tried this yet. Looks and feels like the rest. Except for the ad's on
the rightside.

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RE: Microsoft New webmail

2012-08-01 Thread Rod Trent
Spam seems much better so far, but yes, Hotmail is a huge spam sponge.

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Microsoft New webmail

 

Oh great... another source for spam.   


Roger Wright
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irony!

 

 





On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:

It's pretty good.  Plus, it's built for a touchscreen.

 

 

From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:08 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail

 

Yep.  Just signed up this morning.  One of my in-laws told me about it.

It doesn't look bad at first glance.

 

-Paul

 

 

From: C.E. Gene Connor [mailto:cege...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Microsoft New webmail

 

Outlook.com

 

Anyone tried this yet. Looks and feels like the rest. Except for the ad's on
the rightside.

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RE: Microsoft New webmail

2012-08-01 Thread Rod Trent
What browser?

Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

Anyone seeing an odd rendering issue - the top of the main frame/div
(with the search box, or the subject line when composing mail etc.) is
hidden behind the header frame/div (didn't look into source to work out
whether it's a frame or div or whatever)

Cheers
Ken

From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 12:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail

It's pretty good.  Plus, it's built for a touchscreen.


From: Maglinger, Paul
[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]mailto:[mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Microsoft New webmail

Yep.  Just signed up this morning.  One of my in-laws told me about it.
It doesn't look bad at first glance.

-Paul


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[mailto:cege...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:cege...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Microsoft New webmail

Outlook.com

Anyone tried this yet. Looks and feels like the rest. Except for the
ad's on the rightside.





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RE: Microsoft New webmail

2012-07-31 Thread Rod Trent
This is it.  The others will go away.



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Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Microsoft New webmail

On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 7:18 PM, C.E. Gene Connor cege...@gmail.com wrote:
 Outlook.com

  Because HoTMaiL/Microsoft Hotmail/MSN Hotmail/Windows Live Mail hadn't had
enough name changes so far.  ;-)

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RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad

2012-07-24 Thread Rod Trent
Yeah…it’s not going to happen.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad

 

From a business perspective I agree, they almost have to. But the fact that 
it's almost August and we haven't heard anything about such a version makes me 
think that it might not happen. 




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From:Guyer, Don dgu...@che.org 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:07/24/2012 09:55 AM 
Subject:RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad 

  _  




It’s obviously meant for touch screens and mobile devices. Will they possibly 
release a different version for “normal” desktop use, whether it be under a 
different version or name (Win8 Desktop)? 
  
Regards, 
  
Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology 
Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073 
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From: Daniel Chenault [ mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com 
mailto:dchena...@lgnetworksinc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gartner says Win8 is bad 
  
Bad = does not meet expectations 
Good = at least better than previous version if not more 
  
Dos 3.3 - good 
DOS 4.0 – bad 
DOS 5.0 - good 
Windows 3.0 - bad 
WfW 3.11 - good 
Windows 95 - bad 
Windows 98 w/sp3 - good 
Windows Millenium - bad 
WinXP w/SP3 – good 
Vista – bad 
Win7 – good 
Win8 - ? 
  
I see a pattern 
  
Daniel Chenault 
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From: James Rankin [ mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gartner says Win8 is bad 
  
Don't they normally come out onside for MS? Strange 
  
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/07/23/gartner_windows_8_review/

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RE: Dropbox concerns..

2012-07-19 Thread Rod Trent
I'm not, though the security breach has been heavily reported.

 

 

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dropbox concerns..

 

Anyone using Dropbox and seeing SPAM to that account?

http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?page=7
http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?page=7id=64367replies=111
id=64367replies=111

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RE: US jobs market

2012-07-06 Thread Rod Trent
We deal primarily with System Center and related jobs.  Mostly short term
jobs coming through. 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/jobs/

Also, there's a few folks that like to help tune-up resumes.  Might be good
for someone entering the US job market:

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/groups/resume-tune-up/ 

 

 

From: Guyer, Don [mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: US jobs market

 

I don't think you'll have a problem finding a job on the upper East coast,
as I received just as many job notices for upstate NJ and NY than I did for
my immediate area.

Regards,

 

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From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: US jobs market

 

Agreed with Webster.  Lots of jobs for Citrix, virtualization, and storage
here.  There are a number of Citrix partners in my area, and they have
plenty of work (I use a local one for occasional assistance with planning
and implementation).  Smaller shops like mine (1,000 employees and I'm the
engineer for everything) lean on those sort of partners for assistance where
I don't have enough time I wish I had for Citrix.  

 

On the other hand I don't see many general IT jobs about, at least around
here.  My former boss resigned and it took him months to find something.  

 

Go for it and best wishes.

 Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com 7/5/2012 9:44 PM 
I'm waiting to hear from sister-in-law about all the relevant boxes we need
to tick. I'm sure I will find out pretty soon!

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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:36:10 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: US jobs market

You have two VERY hot skills: Citrix and AppSense.   I seriously doubt you
will have any trouble finding contract work on this side of the pond.

Won't you need a sponsor to come over?


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
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 Subject: OT: US jobs market
 
 On another totally OT note...there's some talk in our household about
 moving to the US because my sister-in-law lives there (NY area). Just
 wondering what the US IT jobs market is like at the moment (probably
 mainly contract work) to see if it is worth us giving this some serious
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RE: US jobs market

2012-07-06 Thread Rod Trent
Good point.  We expire them in 30 days, though, and then go back to verify.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 11:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: US jobs market

 

Rod, 

Just a suggestion. Might be helpful to have a column that lists the date the 
job was posted. 




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From:Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com 
To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
Date:07/06/2012 09:46 AM 
Subject:RE: US jobs market 

  _  




We deal primarily with System Center and related jobs.  Mostly short term jobs 
coming through. 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/services/jobs/ 

Also, there’s a few folks that like to help tune-up resumes.  Might be good for 
someone entering the US job market: 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/groups/resume-tune-up/ 

  

  
From: Guyer, Don [ mailto:dgu...@che.org mailto:dgu...@che.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: US jobs market 

  

I don’t think you’ll have a problem finding a job on the upper East coast, as I 
received just as many job notices for upstate NJ and NY than I did for my 
immediate area. 
Regards, 
  
Don Guyer
Catholic Health East - Information Technology 
Enterprise Directory  Messaging Services
3805 West Chester Pike, Suite 100, Newtown Square, Pa  19073 
email:  mailto:dgu...@che.org dgu...@che.org 
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From: Tom Miller  mailto:[mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
[mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 6:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: US jobs market 

  
Agreed with Webster.  Lots of jobs for Citrix, virtualization, and storage 
here.  There are a number of Citrix partners in my area, and they have plenty 
of work (I use a local one for occasional assistance with planning and 
implementation).  Smaller shops like mine (1,000 employees and I'm the engineer 
for everything) lean on those sort of partners for assistance where I don't 
have enough time I wish I had for Citrix.   
  
On the other hand I don't see many general IT jobs about, at least around 
here.  My former boss resigned and it took him months to find something.   
  
Go for it and best wishes.

 Rankin, James R  mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com kz2...@googlemail.com 
 7/5/2012 9:44 PM 
I'm waiting to hear from sister-in-law about all the relevant boxes we need to 
tick. I'm sure I will find out pretty soon!

---Blackberried

-Original Message-
From: Webster  mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com webs...@carlwebster.com
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 01:36:10 
To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues  
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: US jobs market

You have two VERY hot skills: Citrix and AppSense.   I seriously doubt you will 
have any trouble finding contract work on this side of the pond.

Won't you need a sponsor to come over?


Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
 http://www.carlwebster.com/ http://www.CarlWebster.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Rankin, James R  mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
 [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Subject: OT: US jobs market
 
 On another totally OT note...there's some talk in our household about
 moving to the US because my sister-in-law lives there (NY area). Just
 wondering what the US IT jobs market is like at the moment (probably
 mainly contract work) to see if it is worth us giving this some serious
 thought. I am utterly disenchanted with the UK at the moment and would
 be glad to relocate somewhere better before my kids get too old.


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RE: No more SBS

2012-07-05 Thread Rod Trent
Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are the
easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, immediate benefit.
No need for on-premise hardware.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No more SBS

 

There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn't include SQL
or Exchange.

 

I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P

 

However, I see it as an ongoing move to the Enterprise for Microsoft. They
are abandoning their small business roots.

 

From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: No more SBS

 

I don't see the product in the environments I work in but Microsoft says no
more SBS.

 

http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-2012-versions
-licensing-700341/

 

http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-EEF4F4C
FFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf

 

Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server 2011
Standard?

No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes Exchange
Server and Windows server component products, will be the final such Windows
Server offering. This change is in response to small business market trends
and behavior. The small business computing trends are moving in the
direction of cloud computing for applications and services such as email,
online back-up and line-of-business tools. 13 

 

Q34. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business 2011 Premium
Add-on?

No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on, which includes SQL
Server and Windows Server as component products, will be the final such
Windows Server offering.

 

 

Carl Webster

Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

http://www.CarlWebster.com http://www.carlwebster.com/ 

 

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RE: No more SBS

2012-07-05 Thread Rod Trent
Agreed that redundancy needs to be addressed.  With the uptick in severe 
weather, we almost need off-world backup.  Either a manmade satellite, a space 
station, the moon, or even Mars, maybe all of them.  I'd drop everything to go 
be a datacenter manager on Mars.


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: No more SBS

This is unfortunate thinking, given the poor uptime record for clouds in 
general, and it's worse when you consider connectivity issues as part of that 
equation.

Kurt

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are the 
 easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, immediate benefit.
 No need for on-premise hardware.





 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: No more SBS



 There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn’t 
 include SQL or Exchange.



 I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P



 However, I see it as an ongoing “move to the Enterprise” for 
 Microsoft. They are abandoning their small business roots.



 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: No more SBS



 I don’t see the product in the environments I work in but Microsoft 
 says no more SBS.



 http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-2012-ve
 rsions-licensing-700341/



 http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-E
 EF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf



 Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server 
 2011 Standard?

 No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes 
 Exchange Server and Windows server component products, will be the 
 final such Windows Server offering. This change is in response to 
 small business market trends and behavior. The small business 
 computing trends are moving in the direction of cloud computing for 
 applications and services such as email, online back-up and 
 line-of-business tools. 13



 Q34. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business 2011 
 Premium Add-on?

 No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on, which includes 
 SQL Server and Windows Server as component products, will be the final 
 such Windows Server offering.





 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com



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RE: No more SBS

2012-07-05 Thread Rod Trent
Heavy storms in the area?  Send the data through a light beam to the moon,
and bounce it back when all is clear.



-Original Message-
From: Steve Kradel [mailto:skra...@zetetic.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: No more SBS

I wouldn't envy your ping times--ranging from about 6 to 45 minutes round
trip...

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Agreed that redundancy needs to be addressed.  With the uptick in severe
weather, we almost need off-world backup.  Either a manmade satellite, a
space station, the moon, or even Mars, maybe all of them.  I'd drop
everything to go be a datacenter manager on Mars.


 -Original Message-
 From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:57 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: No more SBS

 This is unfortunate thinking, given the poor uptime record for clouds in
general, and it's worse when you consider connectivity issues as part of
that equation.

 Kurt

 On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote:
 Microsoft assumes, as do a lot of others, that small business are the 
 easiest to move to the cloud and actually get the most, immediate
benefit.
 No need for on-premise hardware.





 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:48 PM


 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: No more SBS



 There will continue to be a SBS 2011 Essentials. But it doesn't 
 include SQL or Exchange.



 I disagree with their decision, as does every SBS MVP. :-P



 However, I see it as an ongoing move to the Enterprise for 
 Microsoft. They are abandoning their small business roots.



 From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:33 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: No more SBS



 I don't see the product in the environments I work in but Microsoft 
 says no more SBS.



 http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-goes-public-with-windows-server-2012-v
 e
 rsions-licensing-700341/



 http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/D/B/4DB352D1-C610-466A-9AAF-
 E EF4F4CFFF27/WS2012_Licensing-Pricing_FAQ.pdf



 Q33. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business Server
 2011 Standard?

 No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Standard, which includes 
 Exchange Server and Windows server component products, will be the 
 final such Windows Server offering. This change is in response to 
 small business market trends and behavior. The small business 
 computing trends are moving in the direction of cloud computing for 
 applications and services such as email, online back-up and 
 line-of-business tools. 13



 Q34. Will there be a next version of Windows Small Business 2011 
 Premium Add-on?

 No. Windows Small Business Server 2011 Premium Add-on, which includes 
 SQL Server and Windows Server as component products, will be the 
 final such Windows Server offering.





 Carl Webster

 Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional

 http://www.CarlWebster.com



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RE: Dell to acquire Quest

2012-07-02 Thread Rod Trent
It's..interesting.

 

Dell has been trying to get into the systems management space for a long
while.  They hoped the KACE thing would work out, but it didn't.   They have
also been extremely miffed that HP keeps getting more exposure at Microsoft
conferences than Dell does, so they even unveiled their own systems
management conference last year.  To me, Quest has turned into the old CA
where they'd acquire a long list of unrelated products just so they could
compete in an area, and they really don't compete very well due to the
software stream being so unfocused and diluted.  Quest has acquired some
good products and companies over the years (Scriptlogic, Changebase, others)
but, I think the acquisition costs finally caught up with them.

 

6 months from now, it'll be interesting to see how things have progressed
and which Quest products you don't hear about anymore.  There has to be a
product vetting process,  product focus mergers, and pieces that simply get
cut.  There's no possible way any company can sell, support, and promote
that many products.  It'll drag Dell down if they don't get a handle on it
right away.

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Dell to acquire Quest

 

Honestly not sure if this is good or bad.

 

http://www.quest.com/news-release/dell-to-acquire-quest-software-072012-8177
37.aspx

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

Consultant and Exchange MVP

http://theessentialexchange.com/

 

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