RE: The list?
Yes, but does it automatic failover? Is it load balanced? From: kz2...@googlemail.com [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: The list? We now have list redundancy Sent from my Blackberry, which may be an antique but delivers email RELIABLY From: Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:29:46 + To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: The list? I hate to jinks it but it seem the list is still up and running? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: UPS vs Switch Sanity Check
Have them set the UPS units to turn themselves off when the battery level gets below a specified threshold. They should have complete control over this. Also, are you not creating a chance for the switches to be damaged by the various power surges. Sometimes the power company will have a on/off/on/off/on cycle in power. Thus doing the same thing to your switches. This is not good for them. But, you can set the UPS units to be at a certain battery level before they will turn back on. Thus, you can protect your switches, and the UPS units. This is what they are there for - use them. From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bill.m...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: UPS vs Switch Sanity Check I am in the midst of a debate with the folks who support our UPS’s, and would appreciate some input. The situation was thus: We were notified of an extended power outage (6 hours) by our utility provider at a couple of our locations. At these locations we have wiring closets with switches (up to 3, in this case) that are plugged into an APC UPS. The “UPS people” wanted to go and turn off the UPS’s and move the power of the switches over to a regular old surge suppressor. Their reason for this was because they contend that allowing the batteries to completely drain will damage them. They also contended that the off the shelf surge suppressor was sufficient to protect the switches from power spikes. My contention is that the switches are more valuable than the UPS’s and need the protection that a real UPS affords, especially at a time where we know the power may fluctuate (spike, brownout) or blink repeatedly. I tried to do some research on whether there was any veracity to the claim about damage to drained batteries and have turned up some conflicting information. FA157446 at APC’s site seems the most authoritative and says they will be OK as long as recharged within 72 hours, but I have read other comments that suggest that a total discharge will damage a UPS-type battery. What I really want is a sanity check. Is there really something to the UPS battery thing and I am being overly dramatic about the surge suppressor, or would you agree that you’d rather risk damaging the UPS (if that is even realistic) than the equipment behind it? Bill Mayo ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Semi-OT: Vsphere shutdown
Get your order dependence list down. Make a list of all the services/servers and decide what order they should be shut down in and what order they can come back up. I did this recently (moved my datacenter to another location) and it made all the difference to have hashed that out and have a full list to check box as things went down and came back up. Provide this list to your team, and walk through the list multiple times with them as you go. Don't forget to add switches/routers/fibrechannel switches/firewalls/SANs/NASs/managed power strips/etc. to the list. Everything matters. Get a config backup of these on a external device (thumbdrive/laptop) and do a write mem on them before powering them down. Make a note of where the SQL servers are in that list - as well as the vcenter server. Is it hosting it's own database is or is it elsewhere. Also, make a note of which physical host that the vcenter server was on so you can connect to it directly to bring it back up. Make sure you have whatever config cables available to connect directly to the switches/routers etc. in case of trouble on powering back up. Good luck. Steven Stringham -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 10:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Vsphere shutdown On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: In a few days time I will have to completely shutdown my datacenter for some electrical maintenance. (Yes, I'm nervous. It's been online non-stop for 6.5 years.) I have 3 Vsphere ESX 4.1 hosts that I need to shutdown along with everything else. My vcenter server is virtualized. Two questions: 1) Do I need to put the hosts into maintenance mode before powering them off? All of the VMs will already be powered off. 1) I can poweroff two of the hosts using the vcenter client, but after I shutdown the vcenter VM how should I poweroff the final host? Just connect the client directly to the host and shut it down that way? I can't think why this wouldn't work. Thanks in advance, RS One more thing... If you have a multi-site environment, and your connectivity to the other sites will be affected, then when bringing things back up, make sure you have connectivity to the other sites before bringing up your DC - so firewall/router/VPN connections before the DC, in this case. Then, make sure your DC is communicating with DCs in other sites before bringing up the rest of the infrastructure. It's not that I think that anything *bad* will happen if you do it out of order - but it gave me much more peace of mind when I did that. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RSA 7.1 - virtual on ESXi
I have now put those RSA services on manual startup, and created a batch file to start/stop the services. The server starts right up - but running the batch file takes as long as 10 minutes to start the services. What a hog. I need to look at seeing if I can improve performance by moving it to faster disk Thanks for the feedback. I do appreciate it. From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: RSA 7.1 - virtual on ESXi A colleague that runs our 7.1 on a vm as well notes the same behavior. I gather it need scads of resources, and I am also not sure about the supported deployment scenarios for 7.1. jlc From: Stringham, Steven [sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 1:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RSA 7.1 - virtual on ESXi I am working on migrating from RSA 6.1 to 7.1 (w2008r2 64x). I am finding that the services take a long time to startup (7+ minutes). The server hangs at applying computer settings as these services startup for that duration. Has anyone else experienced this with RSA? Have you found a solution? Thanks Steven Stringham For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: File replication over slow WAN Link
RSync? It is the two way portion of the question that has got my ears perked. Is it two way from the same source? In other words - is it a file structure that persons can put new files or edited files in on both sides and you want to sync changes both ways? What happens when a file is modified/added/removed on both sides during the day? Which file wins out and survives? -Original Message- From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 3:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: File replication over slow WAN Link If this is Windows how about DFS? I use it for centralized backups. Tom Miller Engineer, Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board Shawn Everett sh...@tandac.com 9/28/2012 3:41:46 AM Hi All, I'm looking for suggestions on how to replicate a large amount of data over a slow WAN link. Replication would occur during non peak hours (after 9PM) and would be a two way replication. The amount of data to compare would be about 6GB and would be required to sync over a 1mb/s wan link. I can pre-seed the data so only the changed files are replicated. We just need to replicate flat files, nothing more complex. Thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated. Shawn ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: I don't see any problems with this
Having the government control everything is a good thing, right? It would never be used for evil because governments always do the right thing. And they could never mistake things some might deem to be a good thing as an attack, would they? Nor would they use it to control us, or use it to suppress alternate thoughts. Nah, I love the thought. /sarcasm -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: I don't see any problems with this LOL - nothing big brother about that AT ALL. How can we spin having control of everything and make it sound like a good idea? All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: I don't see any problems with this Do you? Kurt http://www.nextgov.com/emerging-tech/2012/09/get-ready-computers-worldwide-automatically-smother-cyber-strikes/57977/ By Aliya Sternstein Nextgov September 10, 2012 The federal government is strategizing to build a virtual community that would prompt computers worldwide to instantly, en mass, suppress cyberattacks, sometimes without humans at the keyboard. The so-called cyber ecosystem would take collective action to galvanize cooperation among networks, external devices, and consumers, the Obama administration announced today. Computer systems, devices, applications and users will automatically work together in near real time to anticipate and prevent cyberattacks, automatically respond to attacks while continuing normal operations, evolve to address new threats, limit the spread of attacks across participating devices, as well as share timely security information, a government research solicitation stated. The Homeland Security Department and National Institute of Standards and Technology are seeking public input on the potential benefits and challenges of the approach before forging ahead with construction. [...] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: File transfer hosting with 2GB files, pure web, guest upload?
With the product from Allardsoft - there is a plugin for outlook that will allow a greater than 2g file. I have tested this and it works. So, depending on the solution, this may help. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: File transfer hosting with 2GB files, pure web, guest upload? Thanks for all the responses, everyone. We'd prefer an off-site solution for bandwidth reasons, so I'm not looking for self-hosting. None of these files are very sensitive -- a lot of it's intended for eventual public release -- so I'm not very concerned with disclosure (for a change). The fact that the 2 GB limit is driven by browser limits is extremely useful info. Thank you Steven Stringham for that, and the reference. Now I've got some reason to push back with. Marketing may decide they don't *really* need to be shipping 4 GB files around (which would be nice to hear). Otherwise we'll have to negotiate a solution with our customers, and doing that is like mating elephants.[1] For our needs as described, it looks like yousendit.com , accellion.com and box.net are our best bets, modulo the 2 GB limit. Thanks again all. -- Ben [1] Must be done at a high level; a great deal of roaring and screaming is involved; it takes two years to get results. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: File transfer hosting with 2GB files, pure web, guest upload?
Secure File Transfer from Allardsoft http://www.allardsoft.com/ is an inexpensive product that would seem to fit the bill - if you host it yourself. But, one of the reasons for the 2g limit is browser limitations. Some browsers (IE, firefox) cannot upload anthing bigger than 2gig. See: http://docs.allardsoft.com/filetransfer/browser_support. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: File transfer hosting with 2GB files, pure web, guest upload? Hi folks, I'm looking for a file transfer hosting service which can do the following: A1. Needs no client beyond a web browser A2. Accept files at least 5 gigabytes in size A3. Accept files from guests A4. Send files to guests A5. Doesn't allow guests to see files of other guests The intended use is for marketing people to mail huge video files around. Guest means people without an account on the service/system. We'd like to be able to email someone a link, saying, Go to this URL and upload the files there, without requiring them to enroll in a service or pay a fee just for them. Kind of like YouSendIt, but in reverse. (Presumably the links would need to expire after some time to avoid becoming a denial-of-service exposure.) I'm finding many services have a 2 gigabyte limit. Some of these videos are now hitting that limit. This applies to YouSendIt and Box.net at least. (The 5 GB number is arbitrary but gives me something to shoot for.) DropBox, MS SkyDrive, Google Drive, are okay on the file size limit, but you need an account to do anything, as far as I can tell. FTP is considered too complicated for the intended audience. If it can't be done in a web browser it's out. We need to avoid anything that requires client-side software. If that's offered as an option, that's fine, but it has to have a web-only way as well. We expect to pay for this. Any suggestions? -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Reno (775)823-2900 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: List response time is abysmal
It is very bothersome to me. I see about a 1 hour delay on my posts. Then, add up the posts back, and that is a minimum of 2 hours for a response to a question. It used to be that I would get post responses in about 1-2 minutes. I find great value in the knowledge of those subscribed to this list. This new delay is annoying, however. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: List response time is abysmal I would recommend initiating a poll to gauge just how much angst there is around this. You might be surprised at how many people care about the performance... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Donald Bittenbender donald.bittenben...@gfi.commailto:donald.bittenben...@gfi.com wrote: I will take your comments to GFI and see if there’s anything that can be done to improve this situation. Thanks for everyone’s feedback. Donald Bittenbender Software Developer GFI Software – www.gfi.comhttp://www.gfi.com/ Tel.: +1 866 389 5597 ext 6065tel:%2B1%20866%20389%205597%20ext%206065 Mob.: +1 727 748 2708tel:%2B1%20727%20748%202708 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: List response time is abysmal While I recognize that the hosting of the list is a free option to us users, one hopse that GFI does recognise some benefit out of hosting this community. That being said, this community is likely to die off if we can't expect reasonable mail turnaround. Reverting to a prior version seems like a good idea, if it is at all possible. Or finding another product. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Donald Bittenbender donald.bittenben...@gfi.commailto:donald.bittenben...@gfi.com wrote: When we performed our most recent upgrade we noticed that Lyris now has an SMTP Send Limit and it will not send more than xx messages over xx amount of time. This gets worse the faster people post to the list with xx hours. Unfortunately there isn't anything we can do about it at the moment, but coded into Lyris itself. Donald Bittenbender Software Developer GFI Software – www.gfi.comhttp://www.gfi.com Tel.: +1 866 389 5597 ext 6065tel:%2B1%20866%20389%205597%20ext%206065 Mob.: +1 727 748 2708tel:%2B1%20727%20748%202708 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: List response time is abysmal I know others have mentioned it, but it's really noticeable... I'm talking *hours* between when I send in an email and when I see it back in my inbox. More RAM, faster disks, fatter pipe? I won't say it's unusable, but it's getting less comfortable. Kurt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Moving Exchange 2003 into a DMZ
This is right on... For OWA - use a proxy (ISA/TMG/etc.). For activesync, get a security product to manage your phones.. (Mobile Iron, Good, Notifylink, etc). There are a number of products. For SMTP - you could put a linux server running sendmail/qmail/postfix in the DMZ. This allows a level of isolation from the front end server, the FE says inside the firewall, while the real communication points are in the DMZ, and the # of holes are greatly reduced. Also, for OWA you can use a product like RSA to secure it one more level. On the other hand, this means three more machines... (virtualization works good here). From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 2003 into a DMZ You answered your auditors. Because you only have to open 25 and 443 to make your way work. Their way you will have all kinds of ports open. And if that box gets owned it is part of your domain and will have all that access to your inside assets. If you want more isolation pop an ISA server(or something similar) in the DMZ, point all the outside connections at that and have that connect to your Exchange server. From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 2003 into a DMZ NCUA audtiors want to know why we don't have it is our DMZ currently. At one point I knew an answer but today I don't have a clue. I know the user access OWA or activesync throught he outside interface of the Firewall. The Firewall NAT's/PAT's the address to my local Lan. The outside interface has a Cert from GoDaddy. Is that really enough? Only access to port 25 or 443 is allowed through the firewall. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Posted At: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:19 AM Posted To: itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com Conversation: Moving Exchange 2003 into a DMZ Subject: Re: Moving Exchange 2003 into a DMZ Why would you do that? How many ports do you intend to connect from the internet to the Exchange box? And how many are you going to have to open up between the DMZ and the LAN in order to get it to function? What problem do you hope to solve by moving it? ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 9:13 AM, itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com itli...@imcu.commailto:itli...@imcu.com wrote: I have Exchange 2003 sitting here on my local lan. I want to move it to my Firewall lan and set it in the DMZ lan there. From the outside interface of the Firewall I just need to NAT/PAT it to the new DMZ ip address. No change to the SSL Cert because that is to the outside interface(Correct?) From the clients that are internal when I change the DNS record they should point to the internal DMZ address of the server with no client changes? (Correct?) Smartphones and tablets that have email coming to them use the outside interface fo the firewall so they should be fine? (Correct?) If I have management consoles that send SMTP email internally (VirusScan type things) or those interfaces that use IP instead of FQDN, they will have to be manually corrected when the move happens to point to the internal DMZ address of the server? (Correct?) Thanks ahead of time. Also, what would it take to just build an Exchange 2010 server and just start migrating users to it instead of moving my 2003 box anyways? As always I am humbly asking to not be beaten for my stupidity but given your wisdom on the subject instead. Thanks David For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server
The tape drive is connected scsi to the server. -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server @Steven - but do you have your tape drive connected to your 3140 via fiber channel or SCSI, or is it connected to the server running Backup Exec? -Original Message- From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 4:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server There is a NDMP option for backup exec. I use it right now with my 3140 to back up my cifs volumes. -Original Message- From: Phil Garven [mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server With NDMP you're sending commands to the device telling it to back itself up which is why normally it's to a direct attached tape drive or library. You can get it to redirect the backup but that's to another NDMP device so if you had 2 NetApp devices you could have the tape drive only attached to one of them and the one without the drive could send its data to the other for backup using NDMP. It's a bit of a pain needing separate libraries / drives for different devices but at least with direct attached you'll get great throughput. You could make the data on the NetApp available as a CIFS share and map a drive and back it up that way but it'll be much slower. Regards, Phil Garven - Technical Trainer GFI Software - www.gfi.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server We have two backup solutions, Symantec Backup Exec and HP Data Protector. We also have a NetApp FAS3240. We want to be able to do NDMP backups from the NetApp to the tape drive that is attached to the backup server. Most of the configurations that we've seen show the tape drive being connected to the NetApp either by fiber channel or SCSI, but going through NetApp docs it says that it supports storage system-to-data data-to-tape configuration. Anyone out there using a NetApp and if so, are you backing it up to a tape drive attached to the controller or have you found a way to back it up to a tape drive attached to the backup server? -Paul ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin DISCLAIMER The information contained in this electronic mail may be confidential or legally privileged. It is for the intended recipient(s) only. Should you receive this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this mail. Please do not read, copy, forward or store this message unless you are an intended recipient of it - unauthorized use of contents is strictly prohibited. Unless expressly stated, opinions in this message are those of the individual sender and not of GFI. While all care has been taken, GFI is not responsible for the integrity or the contents of this electronic mail and any attachments included within. (GFI2011) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer
RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server
There is a NDMP option for backup exec. I use it right now with my 3140 to back up my cifs volumes. -Original Message- From: Phil Garven [mailto:phil.gar...@gfi.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server With NDMP you're sending commands to the device telling it to back itself up which is why normally it's to a direct attached tape drive or library. You can get it to redirect the backup but that's to another NDMP device so if you had 2 NetApp devices you could have the tape drive only attached to one of them and the one without the drive could send its data to the other for backup using NDMP. It's a bit of a pain needing separate libraries / drives for different devices but at least with direct attached you'll get great throughput. You could make the data on the NetApp available as a CIFS share and map a drive and back it up that way but it'll be much slower. Regards, Phil Garven - Technical Trainer GFI Software - www.gfi.com -Original Message- From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Backup of NetApp filer to drive on backup server We have two backup solutions, Symantec Backup Exec and HP Data Protector. We also have a NetApp FAS3240. We want to be able to do NDMP backups from the NetApp to the tape drive that is attached to the backup server. Most of the configurations that we've seen show the tape drive being connected to the NetApp either by fiber channel or SCSI, but going through NetApp docs it says that it supports storage system-to-data data-to-tape configuration. Anyone out there using a NetApp and if so, are you backing it up to a tape drive attached to the controller or have you found a way to back it up to a tape drive attached to the backup server? -Paul ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin DISCLAIMER The information contained in this electronic mail may be confidential or legally privileged. It is for the intended recipient(s) only. Should you receive this message in error, please notify the sender by replying to this mail. Please do not read, copy, forward or store this message unless you are an intended recipient of it - unauthorized use of contents is strictly prohibited. Unless expressly stated, opinions in this message are those of the individual sender and not of GFI. While all care has been taken, GFI is not responsible for the integrity or the contents of this electronic mail and any attachments included within. (GFI2011) ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Firewall/Router recommendations
Look at Fortinet's Fortigate products. Very nice with filtering, etc. available. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Firewall/Router recommendations Good Afternoon, list members. I would like to know what are some of your recommendations for a Router/Firewall. Some info of our current situation: We currently use a Linux-based firewall (ClearOS for those curios). It has served us well over the years. Very recently, it has begun to inexplicably slow down passed network traffic. Ping times go up to 1000-4000ms, while load seems to be near zero. Reboot resolve this issue, but the problem can come back within a few hours. I have called the vendor, and I was able to get their tech support (for $180, no less). The first tier support tech is stumped, and he's going to get his level 2 tech involved. Here's the kicker: He will be in touch with me by the end of the week. My boss and I have decided that we no longer are interested in something if we can't get support when we need it. The network requirements for the firewall/router are simple: a 100mbit ethernet WAN and a 100mbit ethernet LAN. Standard NAT and port forwarding required. All other features are _not_ required, but are gravy. We need something that is fairly easy to administer. Anything with a decent web console will likely do. We have about 1000 computers on our network, but actual concurrent sessions through the firewall will likely be 5,000-10,000. I look forward to see what else people are using. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Group calendar question
If you are willing to try opensource... and imperfect but close: mrbs.sourceforge.net From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Group calendar question Looking at keeping this in house. However, Google is on my list and I will be testing it. We also have Sharepoint and I am also looking at that. We are in the process of upgrading to 2010 so when that happens, I’ll be testing that as well. Rick From: leedoug...@pellis.com [mailto:leedoug...@pellis.com] On Behalf Of Lee Douglas Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Group calendar question Pretty sure the Google Apps calendar will do this. For a commercial enterprise, it's $50/seat/year which includes email, Google voice, etc, and it will sync to outlook. I presume it would be less or maybe even free for a school. YMMV On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:02 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.commailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote: I wonder if Google Apps Calendar might do what you're wanting I don't really know, I haven't played much with it at all, but it seems like From: Gasper, Rick [mailto:rickgas...@kings.edumailto:rickgas...@kings.edu] Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Group calendar question I opened my mouth at a team meeting and now I am tasked to find a new group calendar for the school: 1. It needs to have multiple calendars that can be viewed on a master calendar. 2. Multiple people need to update it 3. It must be web based 4. Would be nice if we could import it back to outlook and would be great if it could be updated from outlook. 5. Needs to be web based Keep in mind this would be for a college with different departments that have different needs. (athletics, school schedules, campus events) Does anyone have anything they would recommend? I have a few l that I am looking at but am hoping that someone has a different idea. Rick Rick Gasper Manager, Network Services King's College 133 N. River St Wilkes-Barre PA 18711 PH: 570-208-5845tel:570-208-5845 Fax: 570-208-6072tel:570-208-6072 Cell: 570-760-0335tel:570-760-0335 rickgas...@kings.edumailto:rickgas...@kings.edu Don't become a phishing victim!! King's College and other reputable organizations will never use email to request that you reply with your password, Social Security number or confidential personal information. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to
OT: MPLS Latency
We have a few sites on our MPLS network with Twtelecom. Some of the have pretty good latency (10ms for Phoenix to Las Vegas - all fiber to the building) to not so good latency (40ms Phoenix -Reno Nevada - Dual T1s in Reno). I am seeing similar latency (38ms) from Phoenix to San Jose (another dual T1 on the San Jose side, but a fiber connection to my Phoenix side. My Phoenix to Albuquerue (all fiber again) is about 15ms. This is about the same distance as to the San Jose - but over double the latency. Strict math (best case - line of site 2/3 speed of light calculations) say that my Reno line should be about 10ms. So, I double it for equipment and I still get 20ms. Less than half. My question is what do you folks see out there? Do you see a higher latency on a T1 line than a fiber to the building line by that much of a difference? Or, is there a routing issue that is creating delays? Any feed back you can give would be helpful. Thanks Steven Stringham For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MPLS Latency
Understood that T1 is not MPLS... The Reno site has a bonded T1 into the cloud. The Phoenix site has a 10mb ethernet handoff going directly to a fiber ring... This is about 1000 miles total one way distance. Because the traffic gets into the cloud quickly but on the other end it jumps from 23 to 35/40ms on the last connection. Is this the T1 handoff, or something else? Do you have any similar connections? Do they perform about at that rate?? Thanks again. Target Name: rtr-rno IP: 64.16.106.1 Date/Time: 5/5/2011 12:30:02 PM 10 ms0 ms phxcr-1c.lrlaw.com [xxx.xx.100.1] 21 ms1 ms [xxx.xx.7.177] 3 26 ms 23 ms [xxx.xx.149.9] 4 32 ms 35 ms rtr-rno.lrlaw.com [xxx.xx.106.1] Ping statistics for rtr-rno Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0.0%) Round Trip Times: Minimum = 32ms, Maximum = 35ms, Average = 33ms From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MPLS Latency T1 is not MPLS. And I presume the T1's are bonded? Use tracert and pathping to see where your latency is being introduced. If it's with your carrier, have a chat with them at that point. However, in my personal opinion, your performance is pretty darn good. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MPLS Latency We have a few sites on our MPLS network with Twtelecom. Some of the have pretty good latency (10ms for Phoenix to Las Vegas - all fiber to the building) to not so good latency (40ms Phoenix -Reno Nevada - Dual T1s in Reno). I am seeing similar latency (38ms) from Phoenix to San Jose (another dual T1 on the San Jose side, but a fiber connection to my Phoenix side. My Phoenix to Albuquerue (all fiber again) is about 15ms. This is about the same distance as to the San Jose - but over double the latency. Strict math (best case - line of site 2/3 speed of light calculations) say that my Reno line should be about 10ms. So, I double it for equipment and I still get 20ms. Less than half. My question is what do you folks see out there? Do you see a higher latency on a T1 line than a fiber to the building line by that much of a difference? Or, is there a routing issue that is creating delays? Any feed back you can give would be helpful. Thanks Steven Stringham For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MPLS Latency
Any of the distances about 1000 miles? Thanks for the feedback. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MPLS Latency 9 site MPLS here. No fiber, all full T1's at each site. I just averaged 28ms - 31ms between me and all other 8 sites. My provider's SLA states 50ms or better. From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MPLS Latency We have a few sites on our MPLS network with Twtelecom. Some of the have pretty good latency (10ms for Phoenix to Las Vegas - all fiber to the building) to not so good latency (40ms Phoenix -Reno Nevada - Dual T1s in Reno). I am seeing similar latency (38ms) from Phoenix to San Jose (another dual T1 on the San Jose side, but a fiber connection to my Phoenix side. My Phoenix to Albuquerue (all fiber again) is about 15ms. This is about the same distance as to the San Jose - but over double the latency. Strict math (best case - line of site 2/3 speed of light calculations) say that my Reno line should be about 10ms. So, I double it for equipment and I still get 20ms. Less than half. My question is what do you folks see out there? Do you see a higher latency on a T1 line than a fiber to the building line by that much of a difference? Or, is there a routing issue that is creating delays? Any feed back you can give would be helpful. Thanks Steven Stringham For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MPLS Latency
My co administrators keep complaining that these offices have the worst performance. No real metrics, etc. Also, we are looking at contract renewal with our vendor. So, I am asking the question to find out if I have it good, or should I be complaining before I sign the dotted line. How is it that you are at all happy with a 250ms latency for 1500 miles? That seems really steep to me. From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MPLS Latency I'm with Michael, I think you have pretty good performance. Why do you think you don't, simply because of your line of site math? If so, I don't think that is a reason to suspect something. If it makes you feel any better, I have 1 T1 handoff to MPLS traversing about 1500 miles and my latency is 250 ms and we are happy with it. Most of the latency is cumulative, not in the hand off (local loop). Kevin On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: T1 is not MPLS. And I presume the T1's are bonded? Use tracert and pathping to see where your latency is being introduced. If it's with your carrier, have a chat with them at that point. However, in my personal opinion, your performance is pretty darn good. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.comhttp://theessentialexchange.com/ From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.commailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MPLS Latency We have a few sites on our MPLS network with Twtelecom. Some of the have pretty good latency (10ms for Phoenix to Las Vegas - all fiber to the building) to not so good latency (40ms Phoenix -Reno Nevada - Dual T1s in Reno). I am seeing similar latency (38ms) from Phoenix to San Jose (another dual T1 on the San Jose side, but a fiber connection to my Phoenix side. My Phoenix to Albuquerue (all fiber again) is about 15ms. This is about the same distance as to the San Jose - but over double the latency. Strict math (best case - line of site 2/3 speed of light calculations) say that my Reno line should be about 10ms. So, I double it for equipment and I still get 20ms. Less than half. My question is what do you folks see out there? Do you see a higher latency on a T1 line than a fiber to the building line by that much of a difference? Or, is there a routing issue that is creating delays? Any feed back you can give would be helpful. Thanks Steven Stringham For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311tel:%28602%29262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500tel:%28775%29586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090tel:%28520%29622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400tel:%28505%29764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200tel:%28702%29949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380tel:%28650%29391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900tel:%28775%29823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: MPLS Latency
That is what I wanted to know. Thanks again. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MPLS Latency Yes, what you show below are the results of the T1 handoff. I have a number of customers, like you, that have T1 to a private CIX/MPLS cloud. You are getting about the same results. That's why I say the performance look good to me... Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MPLS Latency Understood that T1 is not MPLS... The Reno site has a bonded T1 into the cloud. The Phoenix site has a 10mb ethernet handoff going directly to a fiber ring... This is about 1000 miles total one way distance. Because the traffic gets into the cloud quickly but on the other end it jumps from 23 to 35/40ms on the last connection. Is this the T1 handoff, or something else? Do you have any similar connections? Do they perform about at that rate?? Thanks again. Target Name: rtr-rno IP: 64.16.106.1 Date/Time: 5/5/2011 12:30:02 PM 10 ms0 ms phxcr-1c.lrlaw.com [xxx.xx.100.1] 21 ms1 ms [xxx.xx.7.177] 3 26 ms 23 ms [xxx.xx.149.9] 4 32 ms 35 ms rtr-rno.lrlaw.com [xxx.xx.106.1] Ping statistics for rtr-rno Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0.0%) Round Trip Times: Minimum = 32ms, Maximum = 35ms, Average = 33ms From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 11:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MPLS Latency T1 is not MPLS. And I presume the T1's are bonded? Use tracert and pathping to see where your latency is being introduced. If it's with your carrier, have a chat with them at that point. However, in my personal opinion, your performance is pretty darn good. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: MPLS Latency We have a few sites on our MPLS network with Twtelecom. Some of the have pretty good latency (10ms for Phoenix to Las Vegas - all fiber to the building) to not so good latency (40ms Phoenix -Reno Nevada - Dual T1s in Reno). I am seeing similar latency (38ms) from Phoenix to San Jose (another dual T1 on the San Jose side, but a fiber connection to my Phoenix side. My Phoenix to Albuquerue (all fiber again) is about 15ms. This is about the same distance as to the San Jose - but over double the latency. Strict math (best case - line of site 2/3 speed of light calculations) say that my Reno line should be about 10ms. So, I double it for equipment and I still get 20ms. Less than half. My question is what do you folks see out there? Do you see a higher latency on a T1 line than a fiber to the building line by that much of a difference? Or, is there a routing issue that is creating delays? Any feed back you can give would be helpful. Thanks Steven Stringham For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090 Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: VOIP design questions
Some of the others have recommended using a separate VLAN - that is great advice. On the cisco switches (3560, etc) there is a command to help (together with the DHCP options - 128-135 to set these on the phone.) Here is the set of commands on a single switch port. Notice the switchport voice vlan 52 option? This tells the phone what vlan to sit on, and the access vlan 50 sets that of the PC. Very nice. interface FastEthernet0/6 switchport access vlan 50 switchport mode access switchport voice vlan 52 priority-queue out mls qos trust dscp spanning-tree portfast Another recommendation is to get some stats on your LAN/switches. If they are managed (they are aren't they), get hold of cacti or mrtg and gather some statistics on them. Good for overall management anyways. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VOIP design questions Thanks folk - I am more educated already. For you Mitel folks, what sort of VLAN/QoS did you configure on your switches. Looking at my switches, I see there are already a number of VIOP vendors built in for QoS, but not Mitel, so I'd need to add it. Stringham, Steven sstri...@lrlaw.com 5/2/2011 1:21 PM Tom We have a Mitel 3300mxe phone network with 5340 phones on the desks. We put this in about 4 years ago. I replaced the older switches with 3560 POE switches and have the PCs behind the phones. We are able to put microswitches behind these (so you could have a PC and a printer, etc.). We have had some issues with phones acting up, so that we got bad throughput at the PC. Replacing the phone takes care of that. Spares are important. Getting phones with a completely digital display is wonderfull. I am so glad not to have to print out templates for phones anymore, because it is all on the display. Select your phone carefully. We have 8 sites across our MPLS network. Some smaller sites (across T1s or even DSL VPNs) are being hosted by a 3300mxe on the other side of the wan. Communication is great. Max latency is about 40-50, sometimes as high as 100ms when in high traffic. Voice is still good. One of the capabilities of Mitel is having a phone across the internet (for example - having a phone at home on your main switch). This works very, very well. I absolutely agree - get good POE switches, and put decent UPS units supporting those switches. Also be very careful on your switch/phone selection. Different POE devices support different power draws. There are several standard levels of power draw. Some POE switches will support a maximum power draw. For example, the 5340s take about 6.1 watts. The ports on my 3560 support 15.4 watts. However, my 48 port switches will only support 24 ports at the full 15.4 watts. But, it can take the full 48 ports at 6.1 watts. If I put GigE phones in, they would take the 15.4 watts level - so I could not put a full compliment of phones on my 48 ports switches. Good Luck From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VOIP design questions Folks, We are planning to retire our current phone system and move to a Mitel VOIP system. Not having implemented VOIP before, I have some questions for those of you that have: - our vendor claims our current data network can easily handle VOIP traffic since it's a small amount of traffic (don't know exact amount yet, still awaiting vendor response). As such, they tell it is possible to use our current network to accommodate voice and data. I'm not sure if Im comfortable with this. I was thinking of a more segregated approach: different network and voice and data never intersect. - our vendor claims we can use the existing data jack for the phones, and plug the desktop PCs/laptops into the phone as a sort of switch. I'm thinking this would add another level of complexity: phone is broke and by the way you can't get on the network now. - the reason the vendor suggests the above is that the current voice drops (cat5) terminate to phone patch panels (in most cases). Those cables would need to be cut and re-terminated to switches. So I have some concerns about our vendor claims. The dollar figure they propose does not include network changes, new switches, etc. Looking at the cost proposal, I am thinking there are quite a few hardware and man-hours costs missing. What do you folks do for VOIP? Thanks, Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
RE: VOIP design questions
Tom We have a Mitel 3300mxe phone network with 5340 phones on the desks. We put this in about 4 years ago. I replaced the older switches with 3560 POE switches and have the PCs behind the phones. We are able to put microswitches behind these (so you could have a PC and a printer, etc.). We have had some issues with phones acting up, so that we got bad throughput at the PC. Replacing the phone takes care of that. Spares are important. Getting phones with a completely digital display is wonderfull. I am so glad not to have to print out templates for phones anymore, because it is all on the display. Select your phone carefully. We have 8 sites across our MPLS network. Some smaller sites (across T1s or even DSL VPNs) are being hosted by a 3300mxe on the other side of the wan. Communication is great. Max latency is about 40-50, sometimes as high as 100ms when in high traffic. Voice is still good. One of the capabilities of Mitel is having a phone across the internet (for example - having a phone at home on your main switch). This works very, very well. I absolutely agree - get good POE switches, and put decent UPS units supporting those switches. Also be very careful on your switch/phone selection. Different POE devices support different power draws. There are several standard levels of power draw. Some POE switches will support a maximum power draw. For example, the 5340s take about 6.1 watts. The ports on my 3560 support 15.4 watts. However, my 48 port switches will only support 24 ports at the full 15.4 watts. But, it can take the full 48 ports at 6.1 watts. If I put GigE phones in, they would take the 15.4 watts level - so I could not put a full compliment of phones on my 48 ports switches. Good Luck From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VOIP design questions Folks, We are planning to retire our current phone system and move to a Mitel VOIP system. Not having implemented VOIP before, I have some questions for those of you that have: - our vendor claims our current data network can easily handle VOIP traffic since it's a small amount of traffic (don't know exact amount yet, still awaiting vendor response). As such, they tell it is possible to use our current network to accommodate voice and data. I'm not sure if Im comfortable with this. I was thinking of a more segregated approach: different network and voice and data never intersect. - our vendor claims we can use the existing data jack for the phones, and plug the desktop PCs/laptops into the phone as a sort of switch. I'm thinking this would add another level of complexity: phone is broke and by the way you can't get on the network now. - the reason the vendor suggests the above is that the current voice drops (cat5) terminate to phone patch panels (in most cases). Those cables would need to be cut and re-terminated to switches. So I have some concerns about our vendor claims. The dollar figure they propose does not include network changes, new switches, etc. Looking at the cost proposal, I am thinking there are quite a few hardware and man-hours costs missing. What do you folks do for VOIP? Thanks, Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.comhttp://www.lewisandroca.com/. Phoenix (602)262-5311 Minden (775)586-9500 Tucson (520)622-2090Albuquerque (505)764-5400 Las Vegas (702)949-8200 Silicon Valley (650)391-1380 Reno (775)823-2900 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains
RE: web content filtering in the SMB
Take a look at Fortinet. The fortiguard 50c or 60c should do good here. From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: web content filtering in the SMB It's a CPA firm so they have 10 years of various QB installed on various machines. And yes everyone runs as local admin at this client with all XP workstations. Bill AsJonathan Link wrote: Is the user running as admin, and what are the versins of QB? On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: David, do you think the antivirus aspect of it is a real benefit? Like you know it helps stop baddies? This client uses Trend and it has been less than effective at stopping some trojans lately. Wiping and starting over with a machine with serveral LOB apps and 4 or 5 versions of quickbooks installed is not something I or the client like doing. Thanks. Bill David Mazzaccaro wrote: iPrism Extremely low admin/maint time. Can be a big pill to swallow up front, though they will work with you on pricing. -Original Message- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.commailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: web content filtering in the SMB Hey guys, I was just quoting renewals for a sonicwall firewall for a client. They use the built-in, licenseable content filtering built into the firewall. It looks like SW raised the price and it is bumping $1,000 for this feature for a 25 person office. Do you think that money could be spent elsewhere with another filtering product to get better ROI? Really, they just think they need to have this in place to block employees from the seedy places. I would like a solution that helps avoid malware and I don't think the SW content filtering does a thing to help avoid malware. Do you have any other suggestions that are in the same ballpark and are low maintenance/administration time? Thanks. bill ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin . ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 Silicon Valley (650) 391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~
Ichain replacement
We are still using a now expiring Novell ichain server for external access. I am looking for a replacement. This somewhat cool software (no longer being upgraded) did the following for me. 1) Reverse proxy 2) Single signon tools 3) Works with RSA SecureID (Radius). 4) URL Rewriting 5) Caching 6) URL Authentication I put multiple internal websites for our folks behind this guy, and until they properly authenticate, they get nowhere. Any ideas? 1) ISA (or whatever they are calling it now? 2) ? Thanks Steven Stringham For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 Silicon Valley (650) 391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: SAN monitoring
Cacti - graphs, thresholds, etc. If you can get a check into nagios, you can get the data into cacti. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SAN monitoring It looks like Quantastor runs on Ubuntu... Opsview? I'm not sure if you can get the Disk IO or IOPS from a nagios check... but maybe you can. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Miller, Michael [mailto:michael.mil...@dys.ohio.gov] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 05:43:10 -0800 Subject: RE: SAN monitoring Quantastor* From: Miller, Michael [mailto:michael.mil...@dys.ohio.gov] Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 8:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SAN monitoring We are running quanta store on our SAN's. I am looking for something that is free and works well for good Disk I/O, or maybe even IOPS. Anyone have any recommendations of something that works well, that is FREE :) and the monitoring is better than a graph that does hours. Miller This message, and any response to it, may constitute a public record and thus may be publicly available to anyone who requests it in accordance with Chapter 149 of the Ohio Revised Code. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbelt software.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This message, and any response to it, may constitute a public record and thus may be publicly available to anyone who requests it in accordance with Chapter 149 of the Ohio Revised Code. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 Silicon Valley (650) 391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: TCPVIEW has been updated
Now that is a nice improvement! Thanks for the heads up. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Cc: ADMIN_MISC; COMPUTING Subject: TCPVIEW has been updated http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb842062.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb842062.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb842062.aspx And it looks very good. Now captures sent/received stats. -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 Silicon Valley (650) 391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Server monitoring solution recommendations?
+1 Nagios - yes a bit to setup - but it just runs. +1 also for Cacti - if you want the historical graphs. Very nice. -Original Message- From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 6:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server monitoring solution recommendations? I'm investigating server monitoring solutions for my enterprise. What I'm interested in is real world experiences and recommendations, not just sales pitches and product sheets that I can get from Google. The way I see it, I need 2 basic functions: I need to be able to monitor various aspects of a server (CPU usage, free disk space, is a service running, does the web service return a web page in a timely manner, is the switch at that site being overloaded, etc - the usual things you'd want to know from a server, I think) and then alert me when certain triggers or thresholds are crossed; and also to provide historical reports, showing trends over time. At a previous job, I used to ServersAlive!, which suited my needs there. But now I am at a place that has over 100 servers and switches, across multiple sites. And so I think I'd need something with more heft, perhaps. We're an HP shop, and I am looking at HP's SIM (Insight Manager) software, but that doesn't seem to monitor all the sorts of functions I want, nor does it seem to present it in a timely manner. I'm also looking at PacketTraps PT 360 tool suite (which is free), and that seems to show me some of what I need, but doesn't seem to have a lot in the way of reporting, nor have I found a way (yet) for it to alert me to configurable settings. I've also downloaded SpiceWorks, on the recommendation of a colleague, but haven't had a chance to investigate it yet. We're a gov't agency, so I don't have a whole lot of money. But I have a need, and at the moment, nothing in place to fill it. Getting an alert email that tells me that my mail server CPU has been up over 80% for more than xx seconds would be a good thing, so I don't have to get phone calls from users, asking why mail is so slow, and that's the first I've heard of it. I'm sure you get the idea. And the boss wants reports over time, for capacity planning and the like. So any recommendations would be welcome, as would anything I've forgotten. We're almost exclusively a Windows shop, but with 10 VMware ESX hosts, a number of MS SQL servers (2000, 2005), and a number of Cisco switches (and a couple Nortel ones scattered here and there). No Exchange (we're a Notes shop). TIA ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 Silicon Valley (650) 391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Firewall Question (Different than Johnathan's question but similar. Might help us both out. )
+1 -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Firewall Question (Different than Johnathan's question but similar. Might help us both out. ) My current recommendation for Free/Cheap open source firewalls is Endian Firewall (Community Edition) 2.3. It's quite capable out of the box, and I won't list all the features here... but I will link to their page: http://www.endian.com/en/community/feature-comparison/ We used to use ClarkConnect, but I feel like the transition to ClearOS needs a major version number for them to clean up the project. But since finding Endian, I'm very unlikely to move back... I like it. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:cbusitl...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:28:02 -0700 Subject: Firewall Question (Different than Johnathan's question but similar. Might help us both out. ) I was reading though Jonathan's Firewall Recommendation thread and it got me thinking. I have a non profit client that their Firewall is on its way to Firewall heaven (actually firewall hell but we will not go there). I have been looking at the recommendations of the group for the different vendors. I need something cheap though and was wondering if anyone could recommend some FREE open source firewalls. I started looking at M0n0wall ( http://m0n0.ch/wall/) today and it looks really cool. Load it on a USB Thumb drive and hook it up to an old p4 and you have a beast of a firewall for a SMB. PC dies and just move the USB Thumb Drive to another old P4 and keep going. Dose anyone have any experience with M0n0wall or any other open source software type for smb's? Thanks Matt ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 Silicon Valley (650) 391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Monitoring services
Why not get a ntlog to syslog tool, and reroute the logs to a syslog server for all servers. Then just monitor at that one location. Of course of the ntevent-syslog tool stopped -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Monitoring services Well that would depend on how the various services worked. We have a few here that will restart as part of how they update files. So seeing the event log entry would get you a lot of spurious alarms. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:19 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Sorry, I wasn't asking for a tool, but for method. We already use Nagios here to watch for event ID's, I was wondering if it makes more sense to look for service stopped messages in the event log or should I look for 55 services independently. Going forward I plan to monitor all services on all servers, and watching the event log would be FAR simpler than legging out 5,000 services. I'm just wondering if it's possible (or likely) that a service would stop without a corresponding Event log entry. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Monitoring services I will second Nagios. There is a way to monitor event id's, but I'm not sure what that process is. We don't really use it for event id's, but do use it for passive checks. There are always new add-ins for Nagios. On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: I think Nagios can monitor pretty much any service, but I don't think it will monitor for Event ID's...but I could be mistaken (and you can't beat the price! (free!)) On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 11:36 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: I would like to add comprehensive monitoring of all running Windows server services. One method is to monitor each service specifically, but could you pretty much the same thing by monitoring the System event logs for event ID 7056? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 Silicon Valley (650) 391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: LAN bandwidth monitor
nagios, cacti, mrtg. All open source. All great products. Cacti is the favorite of mine for this. From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 11:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: LAN bandwidth monitor It's budget planning time here and I want to purchase a product that will monitor bandwidth usage on all the devices on our LAN. It would be nice if an email was sent to admins if a certain threshold was exceeded too. Can anyone recommend a product you are using or know about? Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 Silicon Valley (650) 391-1380 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
RE: Site to Site VPN?
Best of luck. Let us know the results. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Site to Site VPN? Thanks Steven, I am very impressed so far. Their documentation is top notch, and I too was impressed with their web filtering. I am in touch with a rep and will probably proceed. -Sam From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Site to Site VPN? There are a number of options - you will need to talk with a sales rep. When I evaluated multiple different firewalls (sonicwall, fortinet, firebox, etc) the FG came out on top.The FG folks got me a an eval unit, and I fell in love by comparison. The cost for the threat/web filtering is much less that using another product like websense. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Site to Site VPN? Steve, the Fortinet 60B looks perfect, I like the PC Card for EVDO card failover - which we will have avail and utililize. Do you know if this has to be purchased with a Threat DB subscription? From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Site to Site VPN? Try using Fortigate units (even the 60bs) from fortinet. I love them. They work well, and the site to site is great. I am running a few offices off of them. Including VoIP. Good stuff. And the interface is pretty easy to use. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Site to Site VPN? We may be needing a VPN connection to our remote data center in the near future for a small office, about 20 users. Does anybody have any experience with the Cisco/Linksys RVS4000? I tried a SonicWall once, it was way over my head, and support was horrendous. This will operate solely as 2 VPN endpoints to connect 2 LANs. Users needing remote access already have Win 2003 RRAS in place. Thanks for any input, Sam http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9923/ps9928/data_sh eet_c78-496735.html For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com http://www.lewisandroca.com/ . Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Site to Site VPN?
There are a number of options - you will need to talk with a sales rep. When I evaluated multiple different firewalls (sonicwall, fortinet, firebox, etc) the FG came out on top.The FG folks got me a an eval unit, and I fell in love by comparison. The cost for the threat/web filtering is much less that using another product like websense. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 8:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Site to Site VPN? Steve, the Fortinet 60B looks perfect, I like the PC Card for EVDO card failover - which we will have avail and utililize. Do you know if this has to be purchased with a Threat DB subscription? From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:sstri...@lrlaw.com] Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 3:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Site to Site VPN? Try using Fortigate units (even the 60bs) from fortinet. I love them. They work well, and the site to site is great. I am running a few offices off of them. Including VoIP. Good stuff. And the interface is pretty easy to use. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Site to Site VPN? We may be needing a VPN connection to our remote data center in the near future for a small office, about 20 users. Does anybody have any experience with the Cisco/Linksys RVS4000? I tried a SonicWall once, it was way over my head, and support was horrendous. This will operate solely as 2 VPN endpoints to connect 2 LANs. Users needing remote access already have Win 2003 RRAS in place. Thanks for any input, Sam http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9923/ps9928/data_sh eet_c78-496735.html For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com http://www.lewisandroca.com/ . Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Site to Site VPN?
Try using Fortigate units (even the 60bs) from fortinet. I love them. They work well, and the site to site is great. I am running a few offices off of them. Including VoIP. Good stuff. And the interface is pretty easy to use. From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Site to Site VPN? We may be needing a VPN connection to our remote data center in the near future for a small office, about 20 users. Does anybody have any experience with the Cisco/Linksys RVS4000? I tried a SonicWall once, it was way over my head, and support was horrendous. This will operate solely as 2 VPN endpoints to connect 2 LANs. Users needing remote access already have Win 2003 RRAS in place. Thanks for any input, Sam http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps9923/ps9928/data_sh eet_c78-496735.html For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: SOHO Firewall / VPN
Try a Fortigate 60b from fortinet (www.fortinet.com). Great SSL vpn, client based VPN, etc. Also the rules configuration are very sweet, and it has categoried filtering built in. Good stuff. From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SOHO Firewall / VPN Small office network (about a dozen computers) that needs a firewall / VPN solution. They currently have DSL for internet, but its just plugged in to a small LinkSys router. They want to be able to VPN in from the outside to run remote desktop. Doesn't have to be fancy-shmancy, just basic firewall for outbound control, and VPN for remote desktop. Would a Sonicwall be a good fit? If so, which model do y'all recommend? Thanks all! *** John C. Kelsey, MCSE DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 2 : 814.375.4005 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: SOHO Firewall / VPN
I did a search on mnjtech.com (where I get them presently) without logging in (so general pricing). Bundled (with updates, web filtering, etc. for one year) - $794. FG-60B-BDL-US Unbundled (one year firmware updates, I think) $559 FG-60B-US Do your own research on pricing. I really can't give you the best you can get. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SOHO Firewall / VPN what's pricing for a 60b ? From: Stringham, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: SOHO Firewall / VPN Try a Fortigate 60b from fortinet (www.fortinet.com). Great SSL vpn, client based VPN, etc. Also the rules configuration are very sweet, and it has categoried filtering built in. Good stuff. From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 8:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: SOHO Firewall / VPN Small office network (about a dozen computers) that needs a firewall / VPN solution. They currently have DSL for internet, but its just plugged in to a small LinkSys router. They want to be able to VPN in from the outside to run remote desktop. Doesn't have to be fancy-shmancy, just basic firewall for outbound control, and VPN for remote desktop. Would a Sonicwall be a good fit? If so, which model do y'all recommend? Thanks all! *** John C. Kelsey, MCSE DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 2 : 814.375.4005 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com http://www.lewisandroca.com/ . Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1726 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 7:25 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Firewalls
I am also running several Fortigate units. I really like them. They work well, and are easy to manage. The updates are regular, and they make a big difference on my spyware/virus systems. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 7:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Firewalls Haven't needed any, so can't comment on it. However, I love the way these things work. They piss off some of my people once in a while, because the things actually pay attention to the protocols they proxy - for instance, by default, URLs longer than 1024 characters are blocked, and some web sites have maddeningly long URLs. Some web sites are stupid enough to use '\'s in their URLs instead of '/'s - those are blocked too. But building rules, etc., are easy and very straightforward. On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:34 AM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How are these guys on the support side of things? For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Minden (775) 586-9500 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: What OS on network
Nmap www.insecure.org -Original Message- From: Tigran K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 2:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: What OS on network Would you please recommend a scanning tool to find out operating system of computers on my internal network. Thanks --Tigran ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: VOIP Vendor Question...
We recently went down that route as well. We through numerous RFPs, etc. Cisco did to us what someone else mentioned, they reduced the price when we selected a different vendor. They were very self congratualtory in their presentation. (as in - We are the biggest, baddest boy on the block, so you have to go with us!). In the end, we went with a Mitel solution. All our phones are Mitel 5340 units. Very nice, large LCD screens with 48 programable keys (three screens of 16). I like the quality. We are using them in one of our smaller offices over an Internet VPN to connected to a 3300mxe at a different location. They also have a remote solution, so I have one at home that I use via the internet. Most our phone extensions are configured to be hot desked. That is to say, the actual phone has a bogus extension configured on it. But, when a user comes up to use the phone for an extended duration (at my desk say), they can login or hotdesk to the phone. Now that phone has all my extensions, voicemail, speeddials, etc. Since we have offices is multiple states, that is really nice for when we travel. I just go into the available office, login to my phone, and everything is there for me. It automatically logs me out of where I was. This also works very nice with the remote phone solutions. So, I can be working at home, and have my extension right there, and nobody is the wiser. The only real big issue we have had is with voicemail going busy on us. But, that is getting cleared up with a few patches. I wish that the SNMP queries into the 3300mxe systems were a bit more robust. All in all, I am pretty happy with it. Steven Stringham Lewis and Roca LLP From: Chyka, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 7:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VOIP Vendor Question... I hear you on the shoretel, but if your only choices are mitel or cisco, where would you go? And why? We can only go with mitel or cisco due to politics...very long story.. For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender of this E-Mail by return E-Mail or by telephone. In accordance with Internal Revenue Service Circular 230, we advise you that if this email contains any tax advice, such tax advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used, by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Network Management Tools
Nagios is great for up/down notifications. If you want pretty history graphs, skip MRTG and go with Cacti. (www.cacti.org) If you snap mactrack into Cacti, the you can get the port mapping. Very nice. Easy on any of it? Not so much. Useful, and worth putting in the time (depending on your network size)? You bet. Again, what is it you really need? -Original Message- From: Louis, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 11:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Network Management Tools I have Solarwinds (Engineer flavor). It's ok. Was really nice when I first got it because I didn't know what else was available. Orion is a ton of money. But the term Network Monitoring isn't saying much, which is probably why a few people asked what you (Lee) are looking for. Most of what Solarwinds collects runs of SNMP. The non-Orion flavors dump the data into MS Access-type data stores, which quickly become too unmanageable for the program (even with regular nightly maintenance). I found myself frequently fixing the DBs. Features like real-time bandwidth monitoring are nice (the gauges are pretty cool actually), but for historic tracking, you can get that feature in progs like PRTG/MRTG. Another feature in Solarwinds that I haven't seen anywhere else is the port mapping tool, that searches switches you specify and tells you the machines that are connected to each port. That helps for comparisons, or a quick search need. SWs Engineer also as a nice switch config comparison tool. Orion does the same thing Solarwinds Engineer does, but on a larger scale with remote reporting. -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Network Management Tools I was just looking at Orion earlier, when this discussion first started. Anyone have personal experience with this, and how is it different than the big toolkit that they also sell? I understand that a lot of the toolkit tools are manual, but it's advertised as monitoring tools, so what's the big difference between the two? I was just told that we have a little money to spend before end of fiscal year, and was asked what I'd like, and of course I said a network monitoring tool, as we don't have one now... Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Network Management Tools Ha Ha If your talking about Orion from Solarwinds its not any where near free. :) -Original Message- From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Network Management Tools I want it to monitor everything, with no effort from me, and for free! :) Joe Heaton -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Network Management Tools What does network management mean to you? What tasks are you looking to perform, with what outcomes, at what cost, and with what effort? On Feb 8, 2008 7:25 AM, lee jolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi We are looking to deploy network management tools into a new environment. Does anyone have any recommendations? We were looking at SolarWinds. Thanks Lee ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1266 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 10:06 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1266 - Release Date: 2/8/2008 10:06 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ For more information about Lewis and Roca LLP, please go to www.lewisandroca.com. Phoenix (602) 262-5311 Tucson (520) 622-2090 Las Vegas (702) 949-8200 Reno (775) 823-2900 Albuquerque (505) 764-5400 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it
