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why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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because of some of the very freedoms that were under attack Tuesday? because the list sponser said so? Don't like it? Create a rule to automatically delete them. -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Because the owner of this sandbox said so? -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Well, Stu does think so, and he has the final word. When you have your own list, you can make those decisions. -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Did you miss it when this was addressed on Tuesday, the day the world changed? As life gets back underway, the list has been getting back on topic. There are still some off-topic threads going on, but I personally don't have a problem with it at this point. I feel confident that they'll continue to taper off, and by Monday I would imagine that things will be fairly well back to normal on the list. John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Did anyone ask you what you think? Are you the list owner? Apparently, you don't give a damn about the recent events in America. Stu has opened this list up as a place for us to discuss these tragic events. If you don't like it... GO AWAY !! I believe the answers to these questions are self explanatory... -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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I guess the lurkers are getting mad -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Did you miss it when this was addressed on Tuesday, the day the world changed? As life gets back underway, the list has been getting back on topic. There are still some off-topic threads going on, but I personally don't have a problem with it at this point. I feel confident that they'll continue to taper off, and by Monday I would imagine that things will be fairly well back to normal on the list. John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Uh, yesterday afternoon, Stu suggested that we end the current thread re:the WTC subject. At least that's the way I understood him. So, I stopped posting on that subject. I don't remember Stu reopening other than NTSYSADMIN subject matters, so perhaps Stu would like to clarify this issue. I'm still seeing WTC subjects or related subjects that have nothing to do with NTSYSADMIN matters, so I too question if we are still being allowed to discuss the WTC subject. Stu, let's hear from you! Murray -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Did anyone ask you what you think? Are you the list owner? Apparently, you don't give a damn about the recent events in America. Stu has opened this list up as a place for us to discuss these tragic events. If you don't like it... GO AWAY !! I believe the answers to these questions are self explanatory... -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Uh... And you're the ignorant 20 year old Canadian with no clue. So maybe you didn't quite understand what was said. I suggest you read it again. It didn't say cease, it said we should begin to focus on sysadmin stuff to which we have complied with. As was stated, if you or anyone else doesn't like it, delete the thread. Simple.. Eh! -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh, yesterday afternoon, Stu suggested that we end the current thread re:the WTC subject. At least that's the way I understood him. So, I stopped posting on that subject. I don't remember Stu reopening other than NTSYSADMIN subject matters, so perhaps Stu would like to clarify this issue. I'm still seeing WTC subjects or related subjects that have nothing to do with NTSYSADMIN matters, so I too question if we are still being allowed to discuss the WTC subject. Stu, let's hear from you! Murray -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Did anyone ask you what you think? Are you the list owner? Apparently, you don't give a damn about the recent events in America. Stu has opened this list up as a place for us to discuss these tragic events. If you don't like it... GO AWAY !! I believe the answers to these questions are self explanatory... -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Title: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK There are a lot of people who mentally are not prepared for things such as that... - Original Message - From: Shannon Speck To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK They are also editing some trailers and scenes from Spiderman because of the presence of the WTC towers in that. -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Wow... -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Don, I certainly hope you are not suggesting that all Canadians are ignorant. I am Canadian and take offence to you stereotyping a complete country. As for the events that have taken place in the U.S., I have been watching in shock and horror. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by this. I came across the following news item and hope it is appropriate to share here as it echoes my feelings and I'm sure those of many , many others. This, from a Canadian newspaper, America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those. Stand proud, America! -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 13, 2001 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh... And you're the ignorant 20 year old Canadian with no clue. So maybe you didn't quite understand what was said. I suggest you read it again. It didn't say cease, it said we should begin to focus on sysadmin stuff to which we have complied with. As was stated, if you or anyone else doesn't like it, delete the thread. Simple.. Eh! -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh, yesterday afternoon, Stu suggested that we end the current thread re:the WTC subject. At least that's the way I understood him. So, I stopped posting on that subject. I don't remember Stu reopening other than NTSYSADMIN subject matters, so perhaps Stu would like to clarify this issue. I'm still seeing WTC subjects or related subjects that have nothing to do with NTSYSADMIN matters, so I too question if we are still being allowed to discuss the WTC subject. Stu, let's hear from you! Murray -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Did
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I most certainly wasn't making that generalization. That was specifically directed towards the 20 year old Murray from Canada. The rest of you are just fine. Sorry if that was misinterpreted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Don, I certainly hope you are not suggesting that all Canadians are ignorant. I am Canadian and take offence to you stereotyping a complete country. As for the events that have taken place in the U.S., I have been watching in shock and horror. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by this. I came across the following news item and hope it is appropriate to share here as it echoes my feelings and I'm sure those of many , many others. This, from a Canadian newspaper, America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those. Stand proud, America! -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 13, 2001 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh... And you're the ignorant 20 year old Canadian with no clue. So maybe you didn't quite understand what was said. I suggest you read it again. It didn't say cease, it said we should begin to focus on sysadmin stuff to which we have complied with. As was stated, if you or anyone else doesn't like it, delete the thread. Simple.. Eh! -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh, yesterday afternoon, Stu suggested that we end the current thread re:the WTC subject. At least that's the way I understood him. So, I stopped posting on that subject. I don't remember Stu reopening other than NTSYSADMIN subject matters, so perhaps Stu would like to clarify this issue. I'm still
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this is just another prime example of how the people of the u.s cares and sticks together in times like these!! Gene C. aka C.E. Gene Connor Gene's Custom PC Service since 1989 Serving the U.S., Canada London,England -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Wow... -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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I wanted to pass this info along to you. Amazon is collecting for the Red Cross. Their home page (www.amazon.com), the main way they have of generating revenue, is dedicated to a link to this donation site they have. They are absorbing the credit card costs, and current Amazon customers can use 1-click to give, which makes it really fast and easy. They have collected over $2.3 million (and counting) since the 11th, with an average gift of only $32.50 - the power of the Internet at work. I am encouraging everyone I know to make a donation and support Amazon afterwards. I think it is a testament to the people that are part of the technology industry as a whole and that company in particular that they would make an effort like this. Never let it be said that our generation isn't up to the challenges that we face. Here is the direct link: http://www.amazon.com/paypage/PKAXFNQH7EKCX If you hit refresh, the collection results are real-time and increase every moment. In the last 30 minutes or so I have seen them collect about $100k - WOW! Pass this along if you are so moved. John Stott Consultant All Bases Covered 120 Albany Street Plaza New Brunswick, NJ 08901 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 732.342.9700 -Original Message- From: C.E. GENE CONNOR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK this is just another prime example of how the people of the u.s cares and sticks together in times like these!! Gene C. aka C.E. Gene Connor Gene's Custom PC Service since 1989 Serving the U.S., Canada London,England -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Wow... -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Indeed. http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSAttack010912/12_can-cp.html William -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK I most certainly wasn't making that generalization. That was specifically directed towards the 20 year old Murray from Canada. The rest of you are just fine. Sorry if that was misinterpreted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Don, I certainly hope you are not suggesting that all Canadians are ignorant. I am Canadian and take offence to you stereotyping a complete country. As for the events that have taken place in the U.S., I have been watching in shock and horror. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by this. I came across the following news item and hope it is appropriate to share here as it echoes my feelings and I'm sure those of many , many others. This, from a Canadian newspaper, America: The Good Neighbor. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Oops, my apologies Murray... -Original Message- From: Greg Page [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Don, You got the wrong Murray. Murray B is the 20 yo, Murray F is in his 60's. Greg -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh... And you're the ignorant 20 year old Canadian with no clue. So maybe you didn't quite understand what was said. I suggest you read it again. It didn't say cease, it said we should begin to focus on sysadmin stuff to which we have complied with. As was stated, if you or anyone else doesn't like it, delete the thread. Simple.. Eh! -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh, yesterday afternoon, Stu suggested that we end the current thread re:the WTC subject. At least that's the way I understood him. So, I stopped posting on that subject. I don't remember Stu reopening other than NTSYSADMIN subject matters, so perhaps Stu would like to clarify this issue. I'm still seeing WTC subjects or related subjects that have nothing to do with NTSYSADMIN matters, so I too question if we are still being allowed to discuss the WTC subject. Stu, let's hear from you! Murray -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Did anyone ask you what you think? Are you the list owner? Apparently, you don't give a damn about the recent events in America. Stu has opened this list up as a place for us to discuss these tragic events. If you don't like it... GO AWAY !! I believe the answers to these questions are self explanatory... -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Thanks eh Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I Gameday International N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK I most certainly wasn't making that generalization. That was specifically directed towards the 20 year old Murray from Canada. The rest of you are just fine. Sorry if that was misinterpreted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Don, I certainly hope you are not suggesting that all Canadians are ignorant. I am Canadian and take offence to you stereotyping a complete country. As for the events that have taken place in the U.S., I have been watching in shock and horror. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by this. I came across the following news item and hope it is appropriate to share here as it echoes my feelings and I'm sure those of many , many others. This, from a Canadian newspaper, America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those. Stand proud, America! -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 13, 2001 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh... And you're the ignorant 20 year old Canadian with no clue. So maybe you didn't quite understand what was said. I suggest you read it again. It didn't say cease, it said we should begin to focus on sysadmin stuff to which we have complied with. As was stated, if you or anyone else doesn't like it, delete the thread. Simple.. Eh! -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent
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Title: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Too bad we can't care and stick together all the time. -Original Message- From: C.E. GENE CONNOR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK this is just another prime example of how the people of the u.s cares and sticks together in times like these!! Gene C. aka C.E. Gene Connor Gene's Custom PC Service since 1989 Serving the U.S., Canada London,England -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Wow... -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Don, that is funny. This is not Murray the 20 year old Canadian. It is Murray the 62 year old American - - -Mr. Murray Freeman. Mal Sasalu Information Systems Facilities Phone: (403) 295-4914 NovAtel Inc. Fax: (403) 295-45011120 68th Avenue NE [EMAIL PROTECTED]Calgary, AB T2E 8S5 http://www.novatel.ca -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK I most certainly wasn't making that generalization. That was specifically directed towards the 20 year old Murray from Canada. The rest of you are just fine. Sorry if that was misinterpreted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Don, I certainly hope you are not suggesting that all Canadians are ignorant. I am Canadian and take offence to you stereotyping a complete country. As for the events that have taken place in the U.S., I have been watching in shock and horror. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by this. I came across the following news item and hope it is appropriate to share here as it echoes my feelings and I'm sure those of many , many others. This, from a Canadian newspaper, America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those. Stand proud, America! -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 13, 2001 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh... And you're the ignorant 20 year old Canadian with no clue. So maybe you didn't quite understand what was said. I suggest you read it again. It didn't say cease, it said we should begin to focus on sysadmin stuff
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Beauty! -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Thanks eh Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I Gameday International N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK I most certainly wasn't making that generalization. That was specifically directed towards the 20 year old Murray from Canada. The rest of you are just fine. Sorry if that was misinterpreted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Don, I certainly hope you are not suggesting that all Canadians are ignorant. I am Canadian and take offence to you stereotyping a complete country. As for the events that have taken place in the U.S., I have been watching in shock and horror. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by this. I came across the following news item and hope it is appropriate to share here as it echoes my feelings and I'm sure those of many , many others. This, from a Canadian newspaper, America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those. Stand proud, America! -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 13, 2001 3:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Uh... And you're the ignorant 20 year old Canadian with no clue. So maybe you didn't quite understand what was said. I suggest you read it again. It didn't say cease, it said we should begin to focus on sysadmin stuff to which we have
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Damn it, there are just too damn many Murry's. Someone is going to have to change their name. :o) -Original Message- From: Mal Sasalu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Don, that is funny. This is not Murray the 20 year old Canadian. It is Murray the 62 year old American - - -Mr. Murray Freeman. Mal Sasalu Information Systems Facilities Phone: (403) 295-4914 NovAtel Inc. Fax: (403) 295-45011120 68th Avenue NE [EMAIL PROTECTED]Calgary, AB T2E 8S5 http://www.novatel.ca -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject:RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK I most certainly wasn't making that generalization. That was specifically directed towards the 20 year old Murray from Canada. The rest of you are just fine. Sorry if that was misinterpreted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Don, I certainly hope you are not suggesting that all Canadians are ignorant. I am Canadian and take offence to you stereotyping a complete country. As for the events that have taken place in the U.S., I have been watching in shock and horror. My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone who has been touched by this. I came across the following news item and hope it is appropriate to share here as it echoes my feelings and I'm sure those of many , many others. This, from a Canadian newspaper, America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times - and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at . Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those. Stand proud, America! -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: September 13, 2001 3:23 PM
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Title: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Very nicely done. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSENetwork AdministratorRibelin Lowell CompanyInsurance Brokers, Inc.3111 C Street, Suite 300Anchorage, Alaska 99503Ph: (907) 561-1250Fax: (907) 561-4315Cell: (907) 229-0885Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:10 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK From my boss, very poignant to this thread I think. Watch it until the end. http://members.tripod.com/Amar_A/2001-911/2001-911.html Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + IGamedayInternational N.V.Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Allen Crawford [mailto:All[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:49 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Too bad we can't care and stick together all the time. -Original Message- From: C.E. GENE CONNOR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK this is just another prime example of how the people of the u.s cares and sticks together in times like these!! Gene C. aka C.E. Gene Connor Gene's Custom PC Service since 1989 Serving the U.S., Canada London,England -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Wow... -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error.
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Title: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK From my boss, very poignant to this thread I think. Watch it until the end. http://members.tripod.com/Amar_A/2001-911/2001-911.html Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I GamedayInternational N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:All[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Too bad we can't care and stick together all the time. -Original Message- From: C.E. GENE CONNOR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK this is just another prime example of how the people of the u.s cares and sticks together in times like these!! Gene C. aka C.E. Gene Connor Gene's Custom PC Service since 1989 Serving the U.S., Canada London,England -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Wow... -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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I didn't get to see much of the footage of the events yesterday. I actually saw a clip of the plane flying into the WTC. I can -not- believe it. That whole scene looks like something out of the movie 'Independence Day'. The amount of dust resembles that of a volcanic eruption. Pretty sure I was in a state of disbelief yesterday, don't think I really realized the magnitude of what had happened. In my 20 years on this earth I've never seen anything like that. Sure made for an uncomfortable elevator ride this morning to the 31st floor Just for the record, I was never criticizing the US president. I was referring to what I've frequently heard him described as up here (not necessarily MY view, just that of others). Regardless, I have a tremendous amount of respect for someone in his position right about now. M. Binette Cybertech Automation Inc. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
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Title: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK It made me cry Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I GamedayInternational N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Very nicely done. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK From my boss, very poignant to this thread I think. Watch it until the end. http://members.tripod.com/Amar_A/2001-911/2001-911.html Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I GamedayInternational N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Too bad we can't care and stick together all the time. -Original Message- From: C.E. GENE CONNOR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK this is just another prime example of how the people of the u.s cares and sticks together in times like these!! Gene C. aka C.E. Gene Connor Gene's Custom PC Service since 1989 Serving the U.S., Canada London,England -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Wow... -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error.
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Title: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Ditto -Original Message-From: Shannon Speck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:21 PMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK That's pretty funny. I am a lurker. I have enjoyed reading everyone's views on this tragic event. I think it is healthy to air your thoughts and get feedback from so many diverse opinions. Thanks to all for all of the great advice/info I have received from this group. SS -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK I guess the lurkers are getting mad -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Did you miss it when this was addressed on Tuesday, the day the world changed? As life gets back underway, the list has been getting back on topic. There are still some off-topic threads going on, but I personally don't have a problem with it at this point. I feel confident that they'll continue to taper off, and by Monday I would imagine that things will be fairly well back to normal on the list. John Hornbuckle Network Manager Taylor County School District 318 North Clark Street Perry, FL 32347 -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
Title: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK It was JFK who said those words. -Original Message- From: Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK A completely heartbreaking site. It moves you to the core of your soul. I don't know who to credit with the following passage with but it came to mind as I watched the images on the website. Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty. -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK From my boss, very poignant to this thread I think. Watch it until the end. http://members.tripod.com/Amar_A/2001-911/2001-911.html Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I GamedayInternational N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Too bad we can't care and stick together all the time. -Original Message- From: C.E. GENE CONNOR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK this is just another prime example of how the people of the u.s cares and sticks together in times like these!! Gene C. aka C.E. Gene Connor Gene's Custom PC Service since 1989 Serving the U.S., Canada London,England -Original Message- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Wow... -Original Message- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Just to get an idea of how broadly this whole thing has affected us... http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,8811,00.html - ASB -Original Message- From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Why is it you feel compelled to complain about the discussion of the worst terrorist attack on the US? No one is stopping you from using this forum for it's original purpose. The list owner has given us permission to discuss this event. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Wil Willis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK why is it ok to have non technical discussions in this list? I don't think so. wil http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
[LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
Dear NTSysAdmin Team, Everyone in Sunbelt is shocked and horrified about this terrorist suicide attack today. We understand that you want to discuss this issue, but that emotions can easily get the upper hand. It is OK to discuss the attack on this list, but I have to insist to keep the discussion civil. (violators will be taken off the list). Life will not be the same after this. From the viewpoint of a system admin, you will get much more focus on disaster recovery. Prepare for questions from your management. The best way to handle attacks like these is to show the terrorists you keep our head cool, keep life going, and show them no one can get you down. I'm sure the US government is going to find out who is responsible and hit them hard. Warm regards, Stu http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
RE: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK
Stu, We appreciate your willingness to let us use this forum as a point of communication. Regards, Sean Martin, MCSE Network Administrator Ribelin Lowell Company Insurance Brokers, Inc. 3111 C Street, Suite 300 Anchorage, Alaska 99503 Ph: (907) 561-1250 Fax: (907) 561-4315 Cell: (907) 229-0885 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: [LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] NY ATTACK Importance: High Dear NTSysAdmin Team, Everyone in Sunbelt is shocked and horrified about this terrorist suicide attack today. We understand that you want to discuss this issue, but that emotions can easily get the upper hand. It is OK to discuss the attack on this list, but I have to insist to keep the discussion civil. (violators will be taken off the list). Life will not be the same after this. From the viewpoint of a system admin, you will get much more focus on disaster recovery. Prepare for questions from your management. The best way to handle attacks like these is to show the terrorists you keep our head cool, keep life going, and show them no one can get you down. I'm sure the US government is going to find out who is responsible and hit them hard. Warm regards, Stu http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm DO NOT read, copy or disseminate this communication unless you are the intended addressee. This e-mail communication contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you have received this communication in error, please call us immediately at (907) 561-1250 and ask to speak to the sender of the communication. Also, please e-mail the sender and notify the sender immediately that you have received the communication in error. http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
