RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-20 Thread John Cook
Easy WiFi Radar is sort of directional, check it out.

John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Also like the xirrus wi-fi inspector, and insider free apps, too help locate 
APs.



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From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure 
WIFI hosts.
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

Mark















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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-19 Thread Mike Gill
2WireXXX is the default name a vendor uses for its AP's, I can't remember
what one. It's no different than seeing Linksys. The owners of the house
aren't the ones to be worries about. It's their kids. You can't assume they
are idiots. My wife's nephew is just going into college, and a few months
ago I doubt he would know how to install Windows on his laptop. A couple
weeks ago he mentions how he and his friends use Ubuntu now and get kicks
out of looking for WEP networks to crack. I'm not saying he's suddenly a
genius. I still doubt that he would be able to correctly install Windows and
all the drivers on a modern laptop, but he knows how to install Ubuntu and
the tools he needs to crack wireless networks where security was weak, and
he knows how to do it well enough that people should care.

 

-- 
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From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 

I'm well aware that someone with, as I said,  wifi knowledge could see my
router even with the radio broadcast turned off. But I get the distinct
feeling that none of my neighbors has that kind of knowledge. I base that on
the 2 neighbors who are using their family names, and the 4 neighbors who
have 2wire as their network names, not to mention the poor idiot who  is
using the default settings that come up when you turn the router on the very
first time.

 

Murray 

 

 

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-19 Thread Gene Giannamore
Also like the xirrus wi-fi inspector, and insider free apps, too help locate 
APs.



Gene Giannamore
Abide International Inc.
Technical Support
561 1st Street West
Sonoma,Ca.95476
(707) 935-1577Office
(707) 935-9387Fax
(707) 766-4185Cell
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From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure 
WIFI hosts.
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

Mark









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Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Mark A. Ross
Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 
 
In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).
 
Mark
 
 
 

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread John Aldrich
Well, you could rig up a directional antenna and scan that way.  That's
about the only way I could think of right off to do that.

 

John-AldrichTile-Tools

 

From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Eric Woodford
wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my
neighborhood.

BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called
poopypants.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote:

  Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

 to pinpoint a WIFI connection?



 In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
 unsecure WIFI hosts.

 How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo”

 (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry).



 Mark













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Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Peter van Houten

I've used this successfully:

http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template2/index.html

--
Peter van Houten

On the 18/03/2009 18:44, Mark A. Ross wrote the following:

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts.

How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo”

(Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry).

Mark






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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Holstrom, Don
Or a very small Canary Wireless..

-Original Message-
From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

I've used this successfully:

http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template2/index.html

--
Peter van Houten

On the 18/03/2009 18:44, Mark A. Ross wrote the following:
 Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

 to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

 In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
 unsecure WIFI hosts.

 How do you know which house is using the network nam�Bong

 (Couldn���t think of a funnier name, sorry).

 Mark





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Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread James Kerr
Nobody can have a funnier name for an AP then the one I have at home. I can't 
post it here cause it's NSFW but I am sure anyone scanning for APs around my 
condo building will have a good laugh.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark A. Ross 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:44 PM
  Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


  Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

  to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

   

  In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 
unsecure WIFI hosts. 

  How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

  (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

   

  Mark

   

   

   






 

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Shook
Is it James_has_a_small_dinky?

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From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Nobody can have a funnier name for an AP then the one I have at home. I can't 
post it here cause it's NSFW but I am sure anyone scanning for APs around my 
condo building will have a good laugh.
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From: Mark A. Rossmailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com
To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:44 PM
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure 
WIFI hosts.
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

Mark














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Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread James Kerr
nah man, because that isn't true. It is more an instruction of what the should 
do with themselves.

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  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:25 PM
  Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


  Is it James_has_a_small_dinky? 

   

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  Charlotte, NC 28273

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  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:20 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

   

  Nobody can have a funnier name for an AP then the one I have at home. I can't 
post it here cause it's NSFW but I am sure anyone scanning for APs around my 
condo building will have a good laugh.

- Original Message - 

From: Mark A. Ross 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:44 PM

Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 
unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

  

   

 




 

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Jake Gardner
I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with
the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.  
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246
 



From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my
neighborhood. 
 
BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called
poopypants. 


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com
wrote:


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 


 


 






 

 


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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Mark A. Ross
Let me rephrase:

I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network
name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your
WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal
strengths.

Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength
Connection #2. Network name Blue  80% signal strength
Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength

Which house is the Blue network located?

Thanks...

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with
the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.  
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246
 



From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my
neighborhood. 
 
BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called
poopypants. 


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com
wrote:


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 


 


 






 

 


 

 

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Jake Gardner
With 80% strength while driving...  it's gotta be the one on your left.

:) 


Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Let me rephrase:

I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network
name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your
WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal
strengths.

Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength Connection #2.
Network name Blue  80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green
70% signal strength

Which house is the Blue network located?

Thanks...

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with
the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.  
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246
 



From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my
neighborhood. 
 
BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called
poopypants. 


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com
wrote:


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 


 


 






 

 


 

 

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Jake Gardner
I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional
when pointed at the AP's.  It will give you a better line of sight.  

Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation.   Ever see the movie
Pump up the Volume?


Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Let me rephrase:

I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network
name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your
WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal
strengths.

Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength Connection #2.
Network name Blue  80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green
70% signal strength

Which house is the Blue network located?

Thanks...

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with
the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.  
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246
 



From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my
neighborhood. 
 
BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called
poopypants. 


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com
wrote:


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 


 


 






 

 


 

 

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Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 18 Mar 2009 at 13:31, James Kerr wrote:

 nah man, because that isn't true.It is more an instruction of what the
 should do with themselves.

certainly you could post it sufficiently obsc*red to get by the censors 
;-)

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Murray Freeman
CRAP, now I've got to change the name of my network!!! It never occurred
to me that someone would use Bongo!!!
 
Murray 
 



From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 
 
In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).
 
Mark
 
 
 

 
 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Mark A. Ross
Huge help Jake, thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional
when pointed at the AP's.  It will give you a better line of sight.  

Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation.   Ever see the movie
Pump up the Volume?


Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Let me rephrase:

I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network
name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your
WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal
strengths.

Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength Connection #2.
Network name Blue  80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green
70% signal strength

Which house is the Blue network located?

Thanks...

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with
the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.  
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
Jake Gardner
TTC Network Administrator
Ext. 246
 



From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my
neighborhood. 
 
BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called
poopypants. 


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com
wrote:


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 


 


 






 

 


 

 

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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Murray Freeman
In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name,
so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad
because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no
duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of
course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it
too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone
trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone
with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and
then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors
sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!!
 
Murray
 



From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 
 
In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).
 
Mark
 
 
 

 
 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Jeremy Phillips
http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/09/free_public_wif.html

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips
Director of Operations | Azaleos Corporation | T: 206.926.1945 | M: 540.322.7980
You rely on Exchange. We keep it running.

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name, so 
that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad because 
they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no duplication. 
Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of course it's 
unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it too is unsecured, 
and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone trying to steal info! 
The unsecured default is just asking for someone with wifi knowledge to log 
into his router and change the password and then the settings. I've been 
tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast 
is turned off!!!


Murray



From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure 
WIFI hosts.
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

Mark














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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread David Mazzaccaro
None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned
off!!!
 
Well... actually that may not be 100% true
Kismet will show you the SSID of any AP with broadcast SSID disabled as
soon as a client associates.

http://www.kismetwireless.net
 
 
 
 



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name,
so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad
because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no
duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of
course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it
too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone
trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone
with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and
then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors
sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!!
 
Murray
 



From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 
 
In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).
 
Mark
 
 
 

 
 

 
 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Cameron Cooper
Or a Pringles can.

_
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Mark, did you see my original reply with the link to building your own
directional antenna? Wireless hardware is fairly isotropic (radiates in
all directions uniformly), so you will need to capture part of the
signal from the AP you are looking for more accurately. This is the
function of the directional antenna.

Such an antenna coupled with software such as netstumbler (and more
incisive tools such as airsnort, aircap and kismet) will get you there.

--
Peter van Houten

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 Let me rephrase:

 I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a
network
 name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and
your
 WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal
 strengths.

 Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength Connection #2.
 Network name Blue  80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name
Green
 70% signal strength

 Which house is the Blue network located?

 Thanks...

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences
with
 the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.



 Thanks,

 Jake Gardner
 TTC Network Administrator
 Ext. 246


 

 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


 wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in
my
 neighborhood.

 BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called
 poopypants.


 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Rossma...@sdppayroll.com
 wrote:


   Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
 allow you

   to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

   

   In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
 detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts.

   How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo

   (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

   

   Mark

   

   

   


   

   
   

   

   











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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread David Mazzaccaro
To lazy to build one?
http://www.cantenna.com/
 

-Original Message-
From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Or a Pringles can.

_
Cameron Cooper
IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified
Aurico Reports, Inc
Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896
ccoo...@aurico.com


-Original Message-
From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Mark, did you see my original reply with the link to building your own
directional antenna? Wireless hardware is fairly isotropic (radiates in
all directions uniformly), so you will need to capture part of the
signal from the AP you are looking for more accurately. This is the
function of the directional antenna.

Such an antenna coupled with software such as netstumbler (and more
incisive tools such as airsnort, aircap and kismet) will get you there.

--
Peter van Houten

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 Let me rephrase:

 I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a
network
 name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and
your
 WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal 
 strengths.

 Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength Connection #2.
 Network name Blue  80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name
Green
 70% signal strength

 Which house is the Blue network located?

 Thanks...

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences
with
 the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.



 Thanks,

 Jake Gardner
 TTC Network Administrator
 Ext. 246


 

 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


 wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in
my
 neighborhood.

 BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called 
 poopypants.


 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Rossma...@sdppayroll.com
 wrote:


   Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
allow 
 you

   to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

   

   In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
detects 
 5 unsecure WIFI hosts.

   How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo

   (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

   

   Mark

   

   

   


   

   
   

   

   











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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I asked someone I consider an expert at wi-fi, driving and hacking. And got the 
below from him just now:

You would have to be in pretty close proximity to identify where it's coming 
from, I use WiFiFoFum which you can install on smart phones, iphones, etc. that 
have wireless built in, it utilizes signal strength to try and position the 
access point locations... There's more pricey ones out there like AirMagnet 
which has a handheld and can use building specs to pinpoint where its come from 
with GPS. 

We have some kits here that use directional and omni directional antennas with 
signal amplifiers that can find pretty much where its coming from, if its a 
close proximity location I use wififofum and walk around with the sonar view 
and have found it to an actual cubicle. There's also linux based tools I use a 
lot like airodump-ng and aircrack-ng.. Those are more complicated...

You can probably also use NetStumbler (if the SSID is broadcasted) and look at 
the dB strength, as it increases you know you are closer.

http://www.airmagnet.com/products/handheld_analyzer/
http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/wififofum/index.html
http://www.netstumbler.com/



 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 Huge help Jake, thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:02 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional
 when pointed at the AP's.  It will give you a better line of sight.
 
 Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation.   Ever see the movie
 Pump up the Volume?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jake Gardner
 TTC Network Administrator
 Ext. 246
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 Let me rephrase:
 
 I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network
 name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and
 your
 WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal
 strengths.
 
 Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength Connection #2.
 Network name Blue  80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name
 Green
 70% signal strength
 
 Which house is the Blue network located?
 
 Thanks...
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences
 with
 the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jake Gardner
 TTC Network Administrator
 Ext. 246
 
 
 
 
 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 
 wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my
 neighborhood.
 
 BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called
 poopypants.
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com
 wrote:
 
 
   Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
 allow you
 
   to pinpoint a WIFI connection?
 
 
 
   In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
 detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts.
 
   How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo
 
   (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).
 
 
 
   Mark
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote:
 I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network
 name to its exact location.

  As others have said, you need a (uni)directional antenna.  Pretty
much all stock 802.11 radios are equipped with omni-directional,
which means that radiate and receive in all directions equally (more
or less).  In such a configuration, a stationary radio has no way of
knowing where a signal came from.

  By replacing the stock antenna with a directional antenna, you can
aim the antenna.  Think like the sweeping radar dishes you see in
movies.  My moving it around, pointing in different directions, you
can monitor the signal strength.  The direction the signal strength is
strongest is almost certainly the bearing of the transmitter.

  You can get fancy and triangulate -- move to a different location,
repeat, get a second bearing, then plot it on a map and see where they
intersect.  But given the short range of most 802.11 gear, this is
prolly overkill.

  You can monitor the signal strength manually, by watching the
indication on-screen, or I know there's software out there that will
record statistics vs time, with varying degrees of sophistication.

  To obtain a directional antenna:
http://www.google.com/search?q=directional+antenna

  You can also just wander around aimlessly, watching signal strength,
and play hot and cold.  As signal strength increases, you're getting
closer.  This is rather tedious, but again, given the short range of
802.11, this may actually be practical.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Free, Bob
2WIRExxx is the default name of the standard DSL/AP supplied at low or
no cost by ATT/SBC. They are all over the place.

 

Don't be misled into believing that not broadcasting is providing any
security whatsoever to any but the most casual by passers.

 

From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 

In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name,
so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad
because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no
duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of
course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it
too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone
trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone
with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and
then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors
sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!!

 

Murray

 

 



From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread James Kerr
Well originally I was going to use something worse but then I decided that 
maybe I was going to be violating some kinda FCC thing to use profanity, so 
I went with lickmas. Figure it out, its easy. I'm sure its made some of 
my neighbors laugh, or not.



- Original Message - 
From: Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com

To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection



On 18 Mar 2009 at 13:31, James Kerr wrote:


nah man, because that isn't true.It is more an instruction of what the
should do with themselves.


certainly you could post it sufficiently obsc*red to get by the censors
;-)

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
http://www.geoapps.com/
-



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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Murray Freeman
I'm well aware that someone with, as I said,  wifi knowledge could see
my router even with the radio broadcast turned off. But I get the
distinct feeling that none of my neighbors has that kind of knowledge. I
base that on the 2 neighbors who are using their family names, and the 4
neighbors who have 2wire as their network names, not to mention the
poor idiot who  is using the default settings that come up when you turn
the router on the very first time.
 
Murray 
 



From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned
off!!!
 
Well... actually that may not be 100% true
Kismet will show you the SSID of any AP with broadcast SSID disabled as
soon as a client associates.

http://www.kismetwireless.net
 
 
 
 



From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name,
so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad
because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no
duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of
course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it
too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone
trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone
with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and
then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors
sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!!
 
Murray
 



From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection


Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 
 
In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).
 
Mark
 
 
 

 
 

 
 

 
 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Eric Wittersheim
2Wire is a brand of DSL modem that SBC uses or used to use.  I had 2WIRE
from SBC and that is the default name with a 3 digit number after it.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote:

  In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name,
 so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad
 because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no
 duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of
 course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it too
 is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone trying
 to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone with wifi
 knowledge to log into his router and change the password and then the
 settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors sees me
 because my radio broadcast is turned off!!!


 *Murray*


  --
 *From:* Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

  Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

 to pinpoint a WIFI connection?



 In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
 unsecure WIFI hosts.

 How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo”

 (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry).



 Mark


















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Jeremy Anderson
I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos

And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision and 
changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters.

There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks.

From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you
to pinpoint a WIFI connection?

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure 
WIFI hosts.
How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo
(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

Mark









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Kurt Buff
This depends on your definition of exact, which you've provided, and
your procedure, which you've hinted at.

For this, you'll want an accurate antenna system - by this, I mean
that the signal it gathers will attenuate quickly if not targeted
exactly.

A cantenna/yagi, either handheld or on a motorized swivel mount,
should do what you wish, assuming you're mobile while scanning.

If you wish something from a stationary platform, you'll want to
triangulate, and that gets a bunch more complicated.

Kurt

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:58, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote:
 Let me rephrase:

 I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network
 name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your
 WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal
 strengths.

 Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength
 Connection #2. Network name Blue  80% signal strength
 Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength

 Which house is the Blue network located?

 Thanks...

 Mark

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 2WIRExxx is the default name of the standard DSL/AP supplied at low or no
 cost by ATT/SBC. They are all over the place…..

  When I first moved into my current I apparent a few years ago, I saw
about 10 access points, 7 of which were wide open, and 5 of which were
named linksys.  Most of them are locked down now, but more than one
is still called linksys.

  I'd like to thank JohnG for providing free Internet access to my
neighborhood, though.  ;-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Free, Bob
LOL, I always have to thank my GF's neighbor linksys for providing her
college age daughters  friends all the iTunes/myspace/limewire/whatever
BW they need without hogging the connection the big kids use. It's far
easier for them than to configure the security on the AP we use at her
house. It's strange that she lives in a development of 5 acre min
parcels and one just happens to be close enough and broadcasting.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote:
 2WIRExxx is the default name of the standard DSL/AP supplied at low or
no
 cost by ATT/SBC. They are all over the place.

  When I first moved into my current I apparent a few years ago, I saw
about 10 access points, 7 of which were wide open, and 5 of which were
named linksys.  Most of them are locked down now, but more than one
is still called linksys.

  I'd like to thank JohnG for providing free Internet access to my
neighborhood, though.  ;-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something
out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing
his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of
course.  His neighbor took him up on that offer.  I think the payment was
dinner.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.netwrote:

  I have a SSID in my apartment complex called “fish-tacos”



 And when wireless was still new – we once drove through a subdivision and
 changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters.



 There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks.



 *From:* Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection



 Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

 to pinpoint a WIFI connection?



 In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
 unsecure WIFI hosts.

 How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo”

 (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry).



 Mark





















-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Steve Ens
It's amazing how many routers are still out there with full access.  I fixed
one in an internet cafe in Cape Town a while back.  He gave me a free hour
of access in exchange ($1).

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote:

 A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed
 something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help
 securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small
 fee of course.  His neighbor took him up on that offer.  I think the payment
 was dinner.

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.netwrote:

  I have a SSID in my apartment complex called “fish-tacos”



 And when wireless was still new – we once drove through a subdivision and
 changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters.



 There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks.



 *From:* Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection



 Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

 to pinpoint a WIFI connection?



 In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
 unsecure WIFI hosts.

 How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo”

 (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry).



 Mark





















 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Roger Wright
I did exactly the same thing, however, my neighbor ended up doing it
himself.  No free lunch for me!

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

 

A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed
something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted
help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for
a small fee of course.  His neighbor took him up on that offer.  I think
the payment was dinner.  

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.net
wrote:

I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos

 

And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision
and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters.

 

There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. 

 

From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Don Guyer
I've got one in range right now allstarnissan. 

 

Think I'll change the price of a new 350Z to $100.

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox  Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

 

A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed
something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted
help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for
a small fee of course.  His neighbor took him up on that offer.  I think
the payment was dinner.  

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.net
wrote:

I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos

 

And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision
and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters.

 

There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. 

 

From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

 

Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

to pinpoint a WIFI connection? 

 

In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
unsecure WIFI hosts. 

How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo 

(Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Steven Peck
While troubleshooting a wireless issue with a point to point network I
had with a friend, we came across a neighbor who was unsecured.  If
you are walking, it is exceptionally easy to identify which house a
given wireless is coming from.  The signal strength meter is a fairly
good indicator.

As we knew and liked the family, we knocked on his door and asked him
how he liked his high speed internet.  He indicated it was fine and
why?  We suggested that since he had 3 computers (we could easily
identify) on it did he mind sharing with the neighborhood.  We fixed
it for him (and quite co-incidentally changed his channel so he
wouldn't be on ours).  Just a community service and all

As to printing out on someone else's system, you never know how people
are going to react when startled or frightened so not something I
would do.

Steven

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote:
 I did exactly the same thing, however, my neighbor ended up doing it
 himself.  No free lunch for me!







 Roger Wright

 Network Administrator

 Evatone, Inc.

 727.572.7076  x388

 _



 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT



 A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something
 out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing
 his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of
 course.  His neighbor took him up on that offer.  I think the payment was
 dinner.

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.net
 wrote:

 I have a SSID in my apartment complex called “fish-tacos”



 And when wireless was still new – we once drove through a subdivision and
 changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters.



 There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks.



 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection



 Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you

 to pinpoint a WIFI connection?



 In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5
 unsecure WIFI hosts.

 How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo”

 (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry).



 Mark




















 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Murray Freeman
Let me only say that I have 2 neighbors behind me, with one somewhat closer to 
my house than the other. The house that's further away has a signal so strong, 
it actually has more bars than my own. The other neighbor, closer to my 
house, his signal is weaker than mine. Of course it's all about placement of 
the router within the house. 


Murray

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

While troubleshooting a wireless issue with a point to point network I had with 
a friend, we came across a neighbor who was unsecured.  If you are walking, it 
is exceptionally easy to identify which house a given wireless is coming from.  
The signal strength meter is a fairly good indicator.

As we knew and liked the family, we knocked on his door and asked him how he 
liked his high speed internet.  He indicated it was fine and why?  We suggested 
that since he had 3 computers (we could easily
identify) on it did he mind sharing with the neighborhood.  We fixed it for him 
(and quite co-incidentally changed his channel so he wouldn't be on ours).  
Just a community service and all

As to printing out on someone else's system, you never know how people are 
going to react when startled or frightened so not something I would do.

Steven

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote:
 I did exactly the same thing, however, my neighbor ended up doing it 
 himself.  No free lunch for me!







 Roger Wright

 Network Administrator

 Evatone, Inc.

 727.572.7076  x388

 _



 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT



 A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed 
 something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted 
 help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, 
 for a small fee of course.  His neighbor took him up on that offer.  I 
 think the payment was dinner.

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson 
 jer...@mapiadmin.net
 wrote:

 I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos



 And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision 
 and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters.



 There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks.



 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection



 Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow 
 you

 to pinpoint a WIFI connection?



 In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 
 unsecure WIFI hosts.

 How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo

 (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).



 Mark




















 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Sam Cayze
I changed my SSID to my email address, hoping that one of my neighbors might 
email me and want to split the ISP costs...  No luck yet :( 

-Original Message-
From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

Let me only say that I have 2 neighbors behind me, with one somewhat closer to 
my house than the other. The house that's further away has a signal so strong, 
it actually has more bars than my own. The other neighbor, closer to my 
house, his signal is weaker than mine. Of course it's all about placement of 
the router within the house. 


Murray

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

While troubleshooting a wireless issue with a point to point network I had with 
a friend, we came across a neighbor who was unsecured.  If you are walking, it 
is exceptionally easy to identify which house a given wireless is coming from.  
The signal strength meter is a fairly good indicator.

As we knew and liked the family, we knocked on his door and asked him how he 
liked his high speed internet.  He indicated it was fine and why?  We suggested 
that since he had 3 computers (we could easily
identify) on it did he mind sharing with the neighborhood.  We fixed it for him 
(and quite co-incidentally changed his channel so he wouldn't be on ours).  
Just a community service and all

As to printing out on someone else's system, you never know how people are 
going to react when startled or frightened so not something I would do.

Steven

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote:
 I did exactly the same thing, however, my neighbor ended up doing it 
 himself.  No free lunch for me!







 Roger Wright

 Network Administrator

 Evatone, Inc.

 727.572.7076  x388

 _



 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT



 A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed 
 something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted 
 help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, 
 for a small fee of course.  His neighbor took him up on that offer.  I 
 think the payment was dinner.

 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson 
 jer...@mapiadmin.net
 wrote:

 I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos



 And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision 
 and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters.



 There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks.



 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection



 Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow 
 you

 to pinpoint a WIFI connection?



 In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 
 unsecure WIFI hosts.

 How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo

 (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).



 Mark




















 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Ognenoff
On residential accounts, splitting or sharing is usually against the TOS and
newer terms are actually stating that open access points of any kind are
against the TOS - that's how mine reads for Time Warner Cable in WI. YMMV.

 - Andy O.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

I changed my SSID to my email address, hoping that one of my neighbors
might email me and want to split the ISP costs...  No luck yet :(


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Sam Cayze
Yes, obviously :) 

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

On residential accounts, splitting or sharing is usually against the TOS
and newer terms are actually stating that open access points of any kind
are against the TOS - that's how mine reads for Time Warner Cable in WI.
YMMV.

 - Andy O.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

I changed my SSID to my email address, hoping that one of my neighbors 
might email me and want to split the ISP costs...  No luck yet :(


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Phillip Partipilo
+2 on WiFiFoFum.  Used it on WinMo and on iPhone.  The WinMo one was nice
when integrated with a GPS, it would record the coordinates of the strongest
signal of wach WAP it detected, so a little warwalking around your
neighborhood and you could use that data to plot a map.


 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection



I asked someone I consider an expert at wi-fi, driving and hacking. And got
the below from him just now:

You would have to be in pretty close proximity to identify where it's coming
from, I use WiFiFoFum which you can install on smart phones, iphones, etc.
that have wireless built in, it utilizes signal strength to try and position
the access point locations... There's more pricey ones out there like
AirMagnet which has a handheld and can use building specs to pinpoint where
its come from with GPS. 

We have some kits here that use directional and omni directional antennas
with signal amplifiers that can find pretty much where its coming from, if
its a close proximity location I use wififofum and walk around with the
sonar view and have found it to an actual cubicle. There's also linux based
tools I use a lot like airodump-ng and aircrack-ng.. Those are more
complicated...

You can probably also use NetStumbler (if the SSID is broadcasted) and look
at the dB strength, as it increases you know you are closer.

http://www.airmagnet.com/products/handheld_analyzer/
http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/wififofum/index.html
http://www.netstumbler.com/



 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 Huge help Jake, thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:02 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional 
 when pointed at the AP's.  It will give you a better line of sight.
 
 Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation.   Ever see the movie
 Pump up the Volume?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jake Gardner
 TTC Network Administrator
 Ext. 246
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 Let me rephrase:
 
 I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a 
 network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the 
 street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with 
 various signal strengths.
 
 Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength Connection #2.
 Network name Blue  80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name 
 Green 70% signal strength
 
 Which house is the Blue network located?
 
 Thanks...
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences 
 with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jake Gardner
 TTC Network Administrator
 Ext. 246
 
 
 
 
 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 
 wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in 
 my neighborhood.
 
 BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called 
 poopypants.
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com
 wrote:
 
 
   Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow 
 you
 
   to pinpoint a WIFI connection?
 
 
 
   In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects

 5 unsecure WIFI hosts.
 
   How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo
 
   (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).
 
 
 
   Mark
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

2009-03-18 Thread Andy Ognenoff
;)

 - Andy O.

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

Yes, obviously :)

-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT

On residential accounts, splitting or sharing is usually against the TOS
and newer terms are actually stating that open access points of any kind
are against the TOS - that's how mine reads for Time Warner Cable in WI.
YMMV.


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RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

2009-03-18 Thread Mark A. Ross
WiFiFoFum doesn't support BlackBerry's.

:-(

-Original Message-
From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection

+2 on WiFiFoFum.  Used it on WinMo and on iPhone.  The WinMo one was
nice
when integrated with a GPS, it would record the coordinates of the
strongest
signal of wach WAP it detected, so a little warwalking around your
neighborhood and you could use that data to plot a map.


 
Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection



I asked someone I consider an expert at wi-fi, driving and hacking. And
got
the below from him just now:

You would have to be in pretty close proximity to identify where it's
coming
from, I use WiFiFoFum which you can install on smart phones, iphones,
etc.
that have wireless built in, it utilizes signal strength to try and
position
the access point locations... There's more pricey ones out there like
AirMagnet which has a handheld and can use building specs to pinpoint
where
its come from with GPS. 

We have some kits here that use directional and omni directional
antennas
with signal amplifiers that can find pretty much where its coming from,
if
its a close proximity location I use wififofum and walk around with the
sonar view and have found it to an actual cubicle. There's also linux
based
tools I use a lot like airodump-ng and aircrack-ng.. Those are more
complicated...

You can probably also use NetStumbler (if the SSID is broadcasted) and
look
at the dB strength, as it increases you know you are closer.

http://www.airmagnet.com/products/handheld_analyzer/
http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/wififofum/index.html
http://www.netstumbler.com/



 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:15 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 Huge help Jake, thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:02 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional 
 when pointed at the AP's.  It will give you a better line of sight.
 
 Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation.   Ever see the
movie
 Pump up the Volume?
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jake Gardner
 TTC Network Administrator
 Ext. 246
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 Let me rephrase:
 
 I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a 
 network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the 
 street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with 
 various signal strengths.
 
 Connection #1. Network name Red  90% signal strength Connection #2.
 Network name Blue  80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name 
 Green 70% signal strength
 
 Which house is the Blue network located?
 
 Thanks...
 
 Mark
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences 
 with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms.
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jake Gardner
 TTC Network Administrator
 Ext. 246
 
 
 
 
 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
 
 
 wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in 
 my neighborhood.
 
 BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called 
 poopypants.
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com
 wrote:
 
 
   Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will
allow 
 you
 
   to pinpoint a WIFI connection?
 
 
 
   In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop
detects

 5 unsecure WIFI hosts.
 
   How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo
 
   (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry).
 
 
 
   Mark
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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