RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Easy WiFi Radar is sort of directional, check it out. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Also like the xirrus wi-fi inspector, and insider free apps, too help locate APs. Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577Office (707) 935-9387Fax (707) 766-4185Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.commailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
2WireXXX is the default name a vendor uses for its AP's, I can't remember what one. It's no different than seeing Linksys. The owners of the house aren't the ones to be worries about. It's their kids. You can't assume they are idiots. My wife's nephew is just going into college, and a few months ago I doubt he would know how to install Windows on his laptop. A couple weeks ago he mentions how he and his friends use Ubuntu now and get kicks out of looking for WEP networks to crack. I'm not saying he's suddenly a genius. I still doubt that he would be able to correctly install Windows and all the drivers on a modern laptop, but he knows how to install Ubuntu and the tools he needs to crack wireless networks where security was weak, and he knows how to do it well enough that people should care. -- Mike Gill From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I'm well aware that someone with, as I said, wifi knowledge could see my router even with the radio broadcast turned off. But I get the distinct feeling that none of my neighbors has that kind of knowledge. I base that on the 2 neighbors who are using their family names, and the 4 neighbors who have 2wire as their network names, not to mention the poor idiot who is using the default settings that come up when you turn the router on the very first time. Murray ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Also like the xirrus wi-fi inspector, and insider free apps, too help locate APs. Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577Office (707) 935-9387Fax (707) 766-4185Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.commailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Well, you could rig up a directional antenna and scan that way. That's about the only way I could think of right off to do that. John-AldrichTile-Tools From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.18/2009 - Release Date: 03/18/09 07:17:00 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo” (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
I've used this successfully: http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template2/index.html -- Peter van Houten On the 18/03/2009 18:44, Mark A. Ross wrote the following: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo” (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Or a very small Canary Wireless.. -Original Message- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I've used this successfully: http://www.freeantennas.com/projects/template2/index.html -- Peter van Houten On the 18/03/2009 18:44, Mark A. Ross wrote the following: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network nam�Bong (Couldn���t think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Nobody can have a funnier name for an AP then the one I have at home. I can't post it here cause it's NSFW but I am sure anyone scanning for APs around my condo building will have a good laugh. - Original Message - From: Mark A. Ross To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Is it James_has_a_small_dinky? Andy Shook Sr. Sales Engineer Peak 10 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive Charlotte, NC 28273 ph: 704.264.1078 | mobile: 803-517-2168 | fax: 704.264.2010 |andy.sh...@peak10.commailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com MANAGED HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | SAS 70 TYPE II CERTIFIED Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | Tampa 1-866-732-5836 24x7x365 Solution Support Center This message contains information from Peak 10, Inc. which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify administra...@peak10.commailto:administra...@peak10.com by e-mail. From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Nobody can have a funnier name for an AP then the one I have at home. I can't post it here cause it's NSFW but I am sure anyone scanning for APs around my condo building will have a good laugh. - Original Message - From: Mark A. Rossmailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
nah man, because that isn't true. It is more an instruction of what the should do with themselves. - Original Message - From: Andy Shook To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Is it James_has_a_small_dinky? Andy Shook Sr. Sales Engineer Peak 10 8910 Lenox Pointe Drive Charlotte, NC 28273 ph: 704.264.1078 | mobile: 803-517-2168 | fax: 704.264.2010 |andy.sh...@peak10.com MANAGED HOSTING | VIRTUALIZED SERVICES | MANAGED DATA CENTER SERVICES | SAS 70 TYPE II CERTIFIED Atlanta | Charlotte | Cincinnati | Jacksonville | Louisville | Nashville| Raleigh | Richmond | Tampa 1-866-732-5836 24x7x365 Solution Support Center This message contains information from Peak 10, Inc. which may be confidential and privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify administra...@peak10.com by e-mail. From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Nobody can have a funnier name for an AP then the one I have at home. I can't post it here cause it's NSFW but I am sure anyone scanning for APs around my condo building will have a good laugh. - Original Message - From: Mark A. Ross To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:44 PM Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3945 (20090318) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
With 80% strength while driving... it's gotta be the one on your left. :) Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3945 (20090318) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional when pointed at the AP's. It will give you a better line of sight. Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation. Ever see the movie Pump up the Volume? Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3945 (20090318) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
On 18 Mar 2009 at 13:31, James Kerr wrote: nah man, because that isn't true.It is more an instruction of what the should do with themselves. certainly you could post it sufficiently obsc*red to get by the censors ;-) -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona http://www.geoapps.com/ - ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
CRAP, now I've got to change the name of my network!!! It never occurred to me that someone would use Bongo!!! Murray From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Huge help Jake, thanks. -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional when pointed at the AP's. It will give you a better line of sight. Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation. Ever see the movie Pump up the Volume? Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3945 (20090318) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3945 (20090318) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name, so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!! Murray From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2006/09/free_public_wif.html Thanks, Jeremy Phillips Director of Operations | Azaleos Corporation | T: 206.926.1945 | M: 540.322.7980 You rely on Exchange. We keep it running. From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name, so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!! Murray From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!! Well... actually that may not be 100% true Kismet will show you the SSID of any AP with broadcast SSID disabled as soon as a client associates. http://www.kismetwireless.net From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name, so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!! Murray From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
Or a Pringles can. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com -Original Message- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Mark, did you see my original reply with the link to building your own directional antenna? Wireless hardware is fairly isotropic (radiates in all directions uniformly), so you will need to capture part of the signal from the AP you are looking for more accurately. This is the function of the directional antenna. Such an antenna coupled with software such as netstumbler (and more incisive tools such as airsnort, aircap and kismet) will get you there. -- Peter van Houten -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Rossma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
To lazy to build one? http://www.cantenna.com/ -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Or a Pringles can. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com -Original Message- From: Peter van Houten [mailto:peter...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Mark, did you see my original reply with the link to building your own directional antenna? Wireless hardware is fairly isotropic (radiates in all directions uniformly), so you will need to capture part of the signal from the AP you are looking for more accurately. This is the function of the directional antenna. Such an antenna coupled with software such as netstumbler (and more incisive tools such as airsnort, aircap and kismet) will get you there. -- Peter van Houten -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Rossma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
I asked someone I consider an expert at wi-fi, driving and hacking. And got the below from him just now: You would have to be in pretty close proximity to identify where it's coming from, I use WiFiFoFum which you can install on smart phones, iphones, etc. that have wireless built in, it utilizes signal strength to try and position the access point locations... There's more pricey ones out there like AirMagnet which has a handheld and can use building specs to pinpoint where its come from with GPS. We have some kits here that use directional and omni directional antennas with signal amplifiers that can find pretty much where its coming from, if its a close proximity location I use wififofum and walk around with the sonar view and have found it to an actual cubicle. There's also linux based tools I use a lot like airodump-ng and aircrack-ng.. Those are more complicated... You can probably also use NetStumbler (if the SSID is broadcasted) and look at the dB strength, as it increases you know you are closer. http://www.airmagnet.com/products/handheld_analyzer/ http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/wififofum/index.html http://www.netstumbler.com/ -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Huge help Jake, thanks. -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional when pointed at the AP's. It will give you a better line of sight. Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation. Ever see the movie Pump up the Volume? Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you. *** __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3945 (20090318) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. As others have said, you need a (uni)directional antenna. Pretty much all stock 802.11 radios are equipped with omni-directional, which means that radiate and receive in all directions equally (more or less). In such a configuration, a stationary radio has no way of knowing where a signal came from. By replacing the stock antenna with a directional antenna, you can aim the antenna. Think like the sweeping radar dishes you see in movies. My moving it around, pointing in different directions, you can monitor the signal strength. The direction the signal strength is strongest is almost certainly the bearing of the transmitter. You can get fancy and triangulate -- move to a different location, repeat, get a second bearing, then plot it on a map and see where they intersect. But given the short range of most 802.11 gear, this is prolly overkill. You can monitor the signal strength manually, by watching the indication on-screen, or I know there's software out there that will record statistics vs time, with varying degrees of sophistication. To obtain a directional antenna: http://www.google.com/search?q=directional+antenna You can also just wander around aimlessly, watching signal strength, and play hot and cold. As signal strength increases, you're getting closer. This is rather tedious, but again, given the short range of 802.11, this may actually be practical. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
2WIRExxx is the default name of the standard DSL/AP supplied at low or no cost by ATT/SBC. They are all over the place. Don't be misled into believing that not broadcasting is providing any security whatsoever to any but the most casual by passers. From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name, so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!! Murray From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Well originally I was going to use something worse but then I decided that maybe I was going to be violating some kinda FCC thing to use profanity, so I went with lickmas. Figure it out, its easy. I'm sure its made some of my neighbors laugh, or not. - Original Message - From: Angus Scott-Fleming angu...@geoapps.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection On 18 Mar 2009 at 13:31, James Kerr wrote: nah man, because that isn't true.It is more an instruction of what the should do with themselves. certainly you could post it sufficiently obsc*red to get by the censors ;-) -- Angus Scott-Fleming GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona http://www.geoapps.com/ - ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
I'm well aware that someone with, as I said, wifi knowledge could see my router even with the radio broadcast turned off. But I get the distinct feeling that none of my neighbors has that kind of knowledge. I base that on the 2 neighbors who are using their family names, and the 4 neighbors who have 2wire as their network names, not to mention the poor idiot who is using the default settings that come up when you turn the router on the very first time. Murray From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonhhc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!! Well... actually that may not be 100% true Kismet will show you the SSID of any AP with broadcast SSID disabled as soon as a client associates. http://www.kismetwireless.net From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name, so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!! Murray From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
2Wire is a brand of DSL modem that SBC uses or used to use. I had 2WIRE from SBC and that is the default name with a 3 digit number after it. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Murray Freeman mfree...@alanet.org wrote: In my neighborhood, a couple of my neighbors are using their last name, so that's no problem, but there are 4 that were installed by Geek Squad because they use the name 2WIRE followed by 3 numbers, and there is no duplication. Then there's the idiot who has the name default, and of course it's unsecured. Finally there's one named FREE PUBLIC WIFI and it too is unsecured, and is not always turned on, so I suspect it's someone trying to steal info! The unsecured default is just asking for someone with wifi knowledge to log into his router and change the password and then the settings. I've been tempted, very tempted! None of my neighbors sees me because my radio broadcast is turned off!!! *Murray* -- *From:* Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo” (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters. There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
This depends on your definition of exact, which you've provided, and your procedure, which you've hinted at. For this, you'll want an accurate antenna system - by this, I mean that the signal it gathers will attenuate quickly if not targeted exactly. A cantenna/yagi, either handheld or on a motorized swivel mount, should do what you wish, assuming you're mobile while scanning. If you wish something from a stationary platform, you'll want to triangulate, and that gets a bunch more complicated. Kurt On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:58, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: 2WIRExxx is the default name of the standard DSL/AP supplied at low or no cost by ATT/SBC. They are all over the place….. When I first moved into my current I apparent a few years ago, I saw about 10 access points, 7 of which were wide open, and 5 of which were named linksys. Most of them are locked down now, but more than one is still called linksys. I'd like to thank JohnG for providing free Internet access to my neighborhood, though. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
LOL, I always have to thank my GF's neighbor linksys for providing her college age daughters friends all the iTunes/myspace/limewire/whatever BW they need without hogging the connection the big kids use. It's far easier for them than to configure the security on the AP we use at her house. It's strange that she lives in a development of 5 acre min parcels and one just happens to be close enough and broadcasting. -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Free, Bob r...@pge.com wrote: 2WIRExxx is the default name of the standard DSL/AP supplied at low or no cost by ATT/SBC. They are all over the place. When I first moved into my current I apparent a few years ago, I saw about 10 access points, 7 of which were wide open, and 5 of which were named linksys. Most of them are locked down now, but more than one is still called linksys. I'd like to thank JohnG for providing free Internet access to my neighborhood, though. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of course. His neighbor took him up on that offer. I think the payment was dinner. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.netwrote: I have a SSID in my apartment complex called “fish-tacos” And when wireless was still new – we once drove through a subdivision and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters. There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. *From:* Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo” (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
It's amazing how many routers are still out there with full access. I fixed one in an internet cafe in Cape Town a while back. He gave me a free hour of access in exchange ($1). On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of course. His neighbor took him up on that offer. I think the payment was dinner. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.netwrote: I have a SSID in my apartment complex called “fish-tacos” And when wireless was still new – we once drove through a subdivision and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters. There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. *From:* Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo” (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
I did exactly the same thing, however, my neighbor ended up doing it himself. No free lunch for me! Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of course. His neighbor took him up on that offer. I think the payment was dinner. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.net wrote: I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters. There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
I've got one in range right now allstarnissan. Think I'll change the price of a new 350Z to $100. J Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of course. His neighbor took him up on that offer. I think the payment was dinner. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.net wrote: I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters. There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
While troubleshooting a wireless issue with a point to point network I had with a friend, we came across a neighbor who was unsecured. If you are walking, it is exceptionally easy to identify which house a given wireless is coming from. The signal strength meter is a fairly good indicator. As we knew and liked the family, we knocked on his door and asked him how he liked his high speed internet. He indicated it was fine and why? We suggested that since he had 3 computers (we could easily identify) on it did he mind sharing with the neighborhood. We fixed it for him (and quite co-incidentally changed his channel so he wouldn't be on ours). Just a community service and all As to printing out on someone else's system, you never know how people are going to react when startled or frightened so not something I would do. Steven On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote: I did exactly the same thing, however, my neighbor ended up doing it himself. No free lunch for me! Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of course. His neighbor took him up on that offer. I think the payment was dinner. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.net wrote: I have a SSID in my apartment complex called “fish-tacos” And when wireless was still new – we once drove through a subdivision and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters. There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name “Bongo” (Couldn’t think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
Let me only say that I have 2 neighbors behind me, with one somewhat closer to my house than the other. The house that's further away has a signal so strong, it actually has more bars than my own. The other neighbor, closer to my house, his signal is weaker than mine. Of course it's all about placement of the router within the house. Murray -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT While troubleshooting a wireless issue with a point to point network I had with a friend, we came across a neighbor who was unsecured. If you are walking, it is exceptionally easy to identify which house a given wireless is coming from. The signal strength meter is a fairly good indicator. As we knew and liked the family, we knocked on his door and asked him how he liked his high speed internet. He indicated it was fine and why? We suggested that since he had 3 computers (we could easily identify) on it did he mind sharing with the neighborhood. We fixed it for him (and quite co-incidentally changed his channel so he wouldn't be on ours). Just a community service and all As to printing out on someone else's system, you never know how people are going to react when startled or frightened so not something I would do. Steven On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote: I did exactly the same thing, however, my neighbor ended up doing it himself. No free lunch for me! Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of course. His neighbor took him up on that offer. I think the payment was dinner. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.net wrote: I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters. There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
I changed my SSID to my email address, hoping that one of my neighbors might email me and want to split the ISP costs... No luck yet :( -Original Message- From: Murray Freeman [mailto:mfree...@alanet.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT Let me only say that I have 2 neighbors behind me, with one somewhat closer to my house than the other. The house that's further away has a signal so strong, it actually has more bars than my own. The other neighbor, closer to my house, his signal is weaker than mine. Of course it's all about placement of the router within the house. Murray -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT While troubleshooting a wireless issue with a point to point network I had with a friend, we came across a neighbor who was unsecured. If you are walking, it is exceptionally easy to identify which house a given wireless is coming from. The signal strength meter is a fairly good indicator. As we knew and liked the family, we knocked on his door and asked him how he liked his high speed internet. He indicated it was fine and why? We suggested that since he had 3 computers (we could easily identify) on it did he mind sharing with the neighborhood. We fixed it for him (and quite co-incidentally changed his channel so he wouldn't be on ours). Just a community service and all As to printing out on someone else's system, you never know how people are going to react when startled or frightened so not something I would do. Steven On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Roger Wright rwri...@evatone.com wrote: I did exactly the same thing, however, my neighbor ended up doing it himself. No free lunch for me! Roger Wright Network Administrator Evatone, Inc. 727.572.7076 x388 _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT A guy I used to work with accessed his neighbors wireless, printed something out on the neighbors printer to the effect that if he wanted help securing his wireless network, that he would be glad to assist, for a small fee of course. His neighbor took him up on that offer. I think the payment was dinner. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jeremy Anderson jer...@mapiadmin.net wrote: I have a SSID in my apartment complex called fish-tacos And when wireless was still new - we once drove through a subdivision and changed all the open access points to Star Wars characters. There was the Luke, Chewbacca, DarthVader, and Yoda networks. From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
On residential accounts, splitting or sharing is usually against the TOS and newer terms are actually stating that open access points of any kind are against the TOS - that's how mine reads for Time Warner Cable in WI. YMMV. - Andy O. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT I changed my SSID to my email address, hoping that one of my neighbors might email me and want to split the ISP costs... No luck yet :( ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
Yes, obviously :) -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT On residential accounts, splitting or sharing is usually against the TOS and newer terms are actually stating that open access points of any kind are against the TOS - that's how mine reads for Time Warner Cable in WI. YMMV. - Andy O. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT I changed my SSID to my email address, hoping that one of my neighbors might email me and want to split the ISP costs... No luck yet :( ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
+2 on WiFiFoFum. Used it on WinMo and on iPhone. The WinMo one was nice when integrated with a GPS, it would record the coordinates of the strongest signal of wach WAP it detected, so a little warwalking around your neighborhood and you could use that data to plot a map. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I asked someone I consider an expert at wi-fi, driving and hacking. And got the below from him just now: You would have to be in pretty close proximity to identify where it's coming from, I use WiFiFoFum which you can install on smart phones, iphones, etc. that have wireless built in, it utilizes signal strength to try and position the access point locations... There's more pricey ones out there like AirMagnet which has a handheld and can use building specs to pinpoint where its come from with GPS. We have some kits here that use directional and omni directional antennas with signal amplifiers that can find pretty much where its coming from, if its a close proximity location I use wififofum and walk around with the sonar view and have found it to an actual cubicle. There's also linux based tools I use a lot like airodump-ng and aircrack-ng.. Those are more complicated... You can probably also use NetStumbler (if the SSID is broadcasted) and look at the dB strength, as it increases you know you are closer. http://www.airmagnet.com/products/handheld_analyzer/ http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/wififofum/index.html http://www.netstumbler.com/ -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Huge help Jake, thanks. -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional when pointed at the AP's. It will give you a better line of sight. Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation. Ever see the movie Pump up the Volume? Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail or by telephone at 267-352-2020 and destroy this message and any copies. Thank you
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT
;) - Andy O. -Original Message- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT Yes, obviously :) -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:andyognen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection - made OT On residential accounts, splitting or sharing is usually against the TOS and newer terms are actually stating that open access points of any kind are against the TOS - that's how mine reads for Time Warner Cable in WI. YMMV. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection
WiFiFoFum doesn't support BlackBerry's. :-( -Original Message- From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection +2 on WiFiFoFum. Used it on WinMo and on iPhone. The WinMo one was nice when integrated with a GPS, it would record the coordinates of the strongest signal of wach WAP it detected, so a little warwalking around your neighborhood and you could use that data to plot a map. Phillip Partipilo Parametric Solutions Inc. Jupiter, Florida (561) 747-6107 -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I asked someone I consider an expert at wi-fi, driving and hacking. And got the below from him just now: You would have to be in pretty close proximity to identify where it's coming from, I use WiFiFoFum which you can install on smart phones, iphones, etc. that have wireless built in, it utilizes signal strength to try and position the access point locations... There's more pricey ones out there like AirMagnet which has a handheld and can use building specs to pinpoint where its come from with GPS. We have some kits here that use directional and omni directional antennas with signal amplifiers that can find pretty much where its coming from, if its a close proximity location I use wififofum and walk around with the sonar view and have found it to an actual cubicle. There's also linux based tools I use a lot like airodump-ng and aircrack-ng.. Those are more complicated... You can probably also use NetStumbler (if the SSID is broadcasted) and look at the dB strength, as it increases you know you are closer. http://www.airmagnet.com/products/handheld_analyzer/ http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/wififofum/index.html http://www.netstumbler.com/ -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Huge help Jake, thanks. -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I think what you may have to do is modify your wifi to be directional when pointed at the AP's. It will give you a better line of sight. Pin-pointing the AP's would involve triangulation. Ever see the movie Pump up the Volume? Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 -Original Message- From: Mark A. Ross [mailto:ma...@sdppayroll.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection Let me rephrase: I am seeking a hardware device or software that will pinpoint a network name to its exact location. Ex: You are driving down the street and your WIFI connection see's three WIFI connections, with various signal strengths. Connection #1. Network name Red 90% signal strength Connection #2. Network name Blue 80% signal strength Connection #3. Network name Green 70% signal strength Which house is the Blue network located? Thanks... Mark -Original Message- From: Jake Gardner [mailto:jgard...@ttcdas.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection I had to name my mom's themoneypit because of her bad experiences with the contractors redoing her kitchen and bathrooms. Thanks, Jake Gardner TTC Network Administrator Ext. 246 From: Eric Woodford [mailto:ericwoodf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Is it possible to pinpoint a WIFI connection wireless laptop and software like netstumbler helped locate homes in my neighborhood. BTW, friend says he's got an open hotspot in his neighborhood called poopypants. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Mark A. Ross ma...@sdppayroll.com wrote: Does anyone know of a piece of hardware or software that will allow you to pinpoint a WIFI connection? In other words, you are in a public location and your laptop detects 5 unsecure WIFI hosts. How do you know which house is using the network name Bongo (Couldn't think of a funnier name, sorry). Mark ***Teletronics Technology Corporation*** This e-mail is confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee or authorized by the addressee to receive this e-mail, you may not disclose, copy, distribute, or use this e-mail