RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
I have deployed both Asterisk and Shoretel solutions, and personally evaluated Cisco. By far the easiest to implement was Shoretel. Its quality was awesome, asterisk did the job but needed a lot of maintenance and customisation, and wasn't as reliable. At the time, hardware solutions were still thin on the ground, I imagine this has changed. Freeswitch looks infinitely better than Asterisk but is still early days if you don't want to manage its config files by hand. FreePBX is under heavy active development to produce a web front end. There is LIVE .ISO's available. From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Friday, 10 September 2010 5:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Thanks guys for your help, it'll get me started. From: Lists - Level 5 [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Asterisk variants you can get help, check some of the resellers online like freepbx and many others who can provide you remote support to the unit as well as pre-packaged versions. Aastra phones are good for the price and have native sip/proxy support From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Alternative VoIP Solutions Look at the 3Com solutions I liked the ease of management, but can not comment on support where you are at. Jon On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.org wrote: Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
The answer is Elastix my friend http://elastix.org Easy to setup and administer and lots of help from the forums. In case of trouble the elastix people can also offer payed help. Check this out. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Thanks guys for your help, it'll get me started. From: Lists - Level 5 [mailto:li...@levelfive.us] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:44 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Asterisk variants you can get help, check some of the resellers online like freepbx and many others who can provide you remote support to the unit as well as pre-packaged versions. Aastra phones are good for the price and have native sip/proxy support From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Alternative VoIP Solutions Look at the 3Com solutions I liked the ease of management, but can not comment on support where you are at. Jon On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.orgmailto:lcj...@icipe.org wrote: Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Alternative VoIP Solutions
You can find lots of information of VoIP solutions for small business (and non-profit) here: http://www.focus.com/product/phone-systems/ http://www.focus.com/product/phone-systems/Includes vendor comparisons. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.org wrote: Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
I know some hobbyists who have deployed linux-based VOIP PBX machines. I will pass your message along to another mailing list I'm on and see if any of them can help you. Right off the top of my head I can't think of the name of the open-source solution they have used. -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Asterisk is THE open source VoIP solution. You can learn more at http://www.asterisk.org/ Asterisk is mind numbingly flexible (complex) and as a result, there are pre-configured distributions available, the most popular of which is probably PBX-in-a-flash. You can check it out here: http://pbxinaflash.net/ An up and coming VoIP system is FreeSwitch http://www.freeswitch.org/. FreeSwitch claims to be simpler and more stable than Asterisk, but it only does VoIP - it does not support analog line cards like Asterisk does. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions I know some hobbyists who have deployed linux-based VOIP PBX machines. I will pass your message along to another mailing list I'm on and see if any of them can help you. Right off the top of my head I can't think of the name of the open-source solution they have used. -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Lumumba, How many phones are you looking at? I did some research when we were looking into VOIP (about 6 months ago). The most common is Asterix, or one of its many variants, including Trixbox. I also came across sipXecs, which looked very interesting. From what I could learn, Asterix (or variant) was good for 50, maybe 75 phones (although some people had it working with 200). I can't say what support is like, but the peer-to-peer groups seemed quite active. The cost of the phones could be expensive, and possible network upgrades. Of course, there are companies that offer the above with support, which should be a lot cheaper than the companies you mentioned in your email. I haven't dealt with any of them. Hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Thanks all. We have the main site and a principal site like 500Kms away. We'd prefer to go a for a centrally managed system for the two sites totallying 500 extensions. -Original Message- From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Lumumba, How many phones are you looking at? I did some research when we were looking into VOIP (about 6 months ago). The most common is Asterix, or one of its many variants, including Trixbox. I also came across sipXecs, which looked very interesting. From what I could learn, Asterix (or variant) was good for 50, maybe 75 phones (although some people had it working with 200). I can't say what support is like, but the peer-to-peer groups seemed quite active. The cost of the phones could be expensive, and possible network upgrades. Of course, there are companies that offer the above with support, which should be a lot cheaper than the companies you mentioned in your email. I haven't dealt with any of them. Hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
500 extensions? You may wan to look for something comercial. We use Shoretel, which is not cheap, but competitive with the big boys.. Pros: Easy to manage, full featured, and well supported. Cons: Vendor locking (Shoretel hardwar only works with Shortel), Windows centric (no Mac/Linux clients for their call manager, yet.) Other free/low cost solutions to check out: TrixBox (By Asterisk), 3CX, Taridium, Askozia. Good luck! --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:07:20 -0700 Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Thanks all. We have the main site and a principal site like 500Kms away. We'd prefer to go a for a centrally managed system for the two sites totallying 500 extensions. -Original Message- From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Lumumba, How many phones are you looking at? I did some research when we were looking into VOIP (about 6 months ago). The most common is Asterix, or one of its many variants, including Trixbox. I also came across sipXecs, which looked very interesting. From what I could learn, Asterix (or variant) was good for 50, maybe 75 phones (although some people had it working with 200). I can't say what support is like, but the peer-to-peer groups seemed quite active. The cost of the phones could be expensive, and possible network upgrades. Of course, there are companies that offer the above with support, which should be a lot cheaper than the companies you mentioned in your email. I haven't dealt with any of them. Hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Thanks for your help, appreciated. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions 500 extensions? You may wan to look for something comercial. We use Shoretel, which is not cheap, but competitive with the big boys.. Pros: Easy to manage, full featured, and well supported. Cons: Vendor locking (Shoretel hardwar only works with Shortel), Windows centric (no Mac/Linux clients for their call manager, yet.) Other free/low cost solutions to check out: TrixBox (By Asterisk), 3CX, Taridium, Askozia. Good luck! --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:07:20 -0700 Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Thanks all. We have the main site and a principal site like 500Kms away. We'd prefer to go a for a centrally managed system for the two sites totallying 500 extensions. -Original Message- From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Lumumba, How many phones are you looking at? I did some research when we were looking into VOIP (about 6 months ago). The most common is Asterix, or one of its many variants, including Trixbox. I also came across sipXecs, which looked very interesting. From what I could learn, Asterix (or variant) was good for 50, maybe 75 phones (although some people had it working with 200). I can't say what support is like, but the peer-to-peer groups seemed quite active. The cost of the phones could be expensive, and possible network upgrades. Of course, there are companies that offer the above with support, which should be a lot cheaper than the companies you mentioned in your email. I haven't dealt with any of them. Hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Check out FreeSWITCH, quite a few guys have scaled it up to 200cps, the design/configuration is brilliant... I was an asterisk convert and I love it. We use pots fax machines to send faxes through an analog gateway that coverts the dialed number into an email and uses our fax/email service. Very slick. -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.org Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Of course it supports analog cards like asterisk, I have been using an actual Digium card for ages... See FreeTDM. -Original Message- From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:ken.corne...@kimball.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Asterisk is THE open source VoIP solution. You can learn more at http://www.asterisk.org/ Asterisk is mind numbingly flexible (complex) and as a result, there are pre-configured distributions available, the most popular of which is probably PBX-in-a-flash. You can check it out here: http://pbxinaflash.net/ An up and coming VoIP system is FreeSwitch http://www.freeswitch.org/. FreeSwitch claims to be simpler and more stable than Asterisk, but it only does VoIP - it does not support analog line cards like Asterisk does. -Original Message- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions I know some hobbyists who have deployed linux-based VOIP PBX machines. I will pass your message along to another mailing list I'm on and see if any of them can help you. Right off the top of my head I can't think of the name of the open-source solution they have used. -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
+1 on the Shoretel. They are more competitively priced than Cisco, et al. -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions 500 extensions? You may wan to look for something comercial. We use Shoretel, which is not cheap, but competitive with the big boys.. Pros: Easy to manage, full featured, and well supported. Cons: Vendor locking (Shoretel hardwar only works with Shortel), Windows centric (no Mac/Linux clients for their call manager, yet.) Other free/low cost solutions to check out: TrixBox (By Asterisk), 3CX, Taridium, Askozia. Good luck! --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 06:07:20 -0700 Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Thanks all. We have the main site and a principal site like 500Kms away. We'd prefer to go a for a centrally managed system for the two sites totallying 500 extensions. -Original Message- From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Lumumba, How many phones are you looking at? I did some research when we were looking into VOIP (about 6 months ago). The most common is Asterix, or one of its many variants, including Trixbox. I also came across sipXecs, which looked very interesting. From what I could learn, Asterix (or variant) was good for 50, maybe 75 phones (although some people had it working with 200). I can't say what support is like, but the peer-to-peer groups seemed quite active. The cost of the phones could be expensive, and possible network upgrades. Of course, there are companies that offer the above with support, which should be a lot cheaper than the companies you mentioned in your email. I haven't dealt with any of them. Hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
What's the phone system used for? If it's all outbound calling, any phone system will do, but for inbound, call center, or even predictive dialer functionality you might want to search out a vendor who specializes in those areas. -mb -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 4:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Freeswitch looks really really good -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Sep 9, 2010 11:24 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Check out FreeSWITCH, quite a few guys have scaled it up to 200cps, the design/configuration is brilliant... I was an asterisk convert and I love it. We use pots fax machines to send faxes through an analog gateway that coverts the dialed number into an email and uses our fax/email service. Very slick. -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.org Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
It really is, and what makes it better than asterisk is the devs all participate in the mailing list, it's very common to see a bug patched in GIT immediately with the devs asking the OP to verify it... The expandability is practically unlimited, if you can dream it up there's a way to do it. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 12:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Freeswitch looks really really good -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Sep 9, 2010 11:24 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Check out FreeSWITCH, quite a few guys have scaled it up to 200cps, the design/configuration is brilliant... I was an asterisk convert and I love it. We use pots fax machines to send faxes through an analog gateway that coverts the dialed number into an email and uses our fax/email service. Very slick. -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.orgmailto:lcj...@icipe.org Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
3cx... http://www.3cx.com Not difficult to setup and can use some of your existing hardware for the server. Download the free version and if you need the features, then go for the paid versions. Marlin Borsick Coastalan, Inc. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 14:17 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Freeswitch looks really really good -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Sent from my Motorola Droid On Sep 9, 2010 11:24 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Check out FreeSWITCH, quite a few guys have scaled it up to 200cps, the design/configuration is brilliant... I was an asterisk convert and I love it. We use pots fax machines to send faxes through an analog gateway that coverts the dialed number into an email and uses our fax/email service. Very slick. -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.orgmailto:lcj...@icipe.org Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
We have Cisco CME at each of our satellite sites and a combo of a traditional PBX and Asterisk in the Head Office. Cisco is very expensive and far from perfect. Asterisk is very flexible and cheap. The commercial products make it easier for mass phone deployment (just plug in the phone and it updates and configures itself). Asterisk can do this but it is a bit trickier depending on what type of handsets you use. -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, 9 September 2010 9:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Take a look at OCS also. It's cost effective and offers a lot of flexibility. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Thanks all. We have the main site and a principal site like 500Kms away. We'd prefer to go a for a centrally managed system for the two sites totallying 500 extensions. -Original Message- From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:mark.rei...@prairie.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions Lumumba, How many phones are you looking at? I did some research when we were looking into VOIP (about 6 months ago). The most common is Asterix, or one of its many variants, including Trixbox. I also came across sipXecs, which looked very interesting. From what I could learn, Asterix (or variant) was good for 50, maybe 75 phones (although some people had it working with 200). I can't say what support is like, but the peer-to-peer groups seemed quite active. The cost of the phones could be expensive, and possible network upgrades. Of course, there are companies that offer the above with support, which should be a lot cheaper than the companies you mentioned in your email. I haven't dealt with any of them. Hope this helps. Mark -Original Message- From: Juma, Lumumba [mailto:lcj...@icipe.org] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Alternative VoIP Solutions Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Look at the 3Com solutions I liked the ease of management, but can not comment on support where you are at. Jon On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.org wrote: Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Alternative VoIP Solutions
Asterisk variants you can get help, check some of the resellers online like freepbx and many others who can provide you remote support to the unit as well as pre-packaged versions. Aastra phones are good for the price and have native sip/proxy support From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Alternative VoIP Solutions Look at the 3Com solutions I liked the ease of management, but can not comment on support where you are at. Jon On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Juma, Lumumba lcj...@icipe.org wrote: Hi All, We are exploring the market for VoIP solutions. However, known market products like CISCO, Siemens, Alcatel are proving rather expensive for us as a non-profit. Open source seems the way to go for us. Has any of you deployed an open source VoIP solution? Support is a crucial factor for us, we are based in Kenya East Africa. I will appreciate reference companies. Thanks, Lumumba. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin