Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread tony patton
There is a free version of KillDisk as far as I can remember, but I'd 
probably stick with DBAN.

Regards

Tony Patton
Desktop Operations Cavan
Ext 8078
Direct Dial 049 435 2878
email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com



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To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   15/06/2010 16:07
Subject:DISK WIPING TOOL



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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Erik Goldoff
I've been using dban too ... anything particular that dissatisfies you about
DBAN or you just seeking input ?

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) 
joe.haral...@ge.com wrote:

  Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use DBAN but
 was exploring other options.


 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team








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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Joseph Heaton
Why the interest in leaving DBAN?  It is what I've used for years

 Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com 6/15/2010 8:06 
 AM 
Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use DBAN
but was exploring other options. 
 
Joe Haralson

Network Infrastructure Team

 

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RE: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)
Seeking input. I just want to make sure I'm not missing out on better
tool.
 
Joe Haralson

Network Infrastructure Team

GE - Rail Services

160 N. Clark

Chicago, Il 60601

Office: (312) 853-5014

( DC: : *8 750-5014

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From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL


I've been using dban too ... anything particular that dissatisfies you
about DBAN or you just seeking input ?


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)
joe.haral...@ge.com wrote:


Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use
DBAN but was exploring other options. 
 

Joe Haralson

Network Infrastructure Team

 

 


 






 

 


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RE: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)
Not looking to leave DBAN. Looking at options. I also have a need for a
tool that can be used remotely. I would like to clean Data drive and not
have to boot from cd. 


Joe Haralson

Network Infrastructure Team


-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

Why the interest in leaving DBAN?  It is what I've used for years

 Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com 
 6/15/2010 8:06 AM 
Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use DBAN
but was exploring other options. 
 
Joe Haralson

Network Infrastructure Team

 

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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Erik Goldoff
I suppose you could use something like eraser at the file system level, but
it would take much longer for an entire drive ( I use that for folders/files
though )

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) 
joe.haral...@ge.com wrote:

 Not looking to leave DBAN. Looking at options. I also have a need for a
 tool that can be used remotely. I would like to clean Data drive and not
 have to boot from cd.


 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team


 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:12 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

 Why the interest in leaving DBAN?  It is what I've used for years

  Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com
  6/15/2010 8:06 AM 
 Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use DBAN
 but was exploring other options.

 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team



  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread S Powell
There are a whole slew of security reasons why you'll not find one
that you can run remotely, or not boot from the CD.

we use the native Disk Utility in OS X, just pull the HD and plug it
in using a USB to IDE/SATA connector.

but hey, If you do find one that you can run remotely please let us know.


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On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:40, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)
joe.haral...@ge.com wrote:
 Not looking to leave DBAN. Looking at options. I also have a need for a
 tool that can be used remotely. I would like to clean Data drive and not
 have to boot from cd.


 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team


 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:12 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

 Why the interest in leaving DBAN?  It is what I've used for years

 Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com
 6/15/2010 8:06 AM 
 Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use DBAN
 but was exploring other options.

 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team



 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


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 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)
joe.haral...@ge.com wrote:
 Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use DBAN but
 was exploring other options.

  DISKPART has a CLEAN ALL command which writes zeros to every block
on the disk.  The chief advantages of this are (1) it's free, (2) it's
simple, and (3) it doesn't need a separate boot.

  It doesn't do any fancy overwrite patterns, but I'm not sure those
really matter anymore.  Government agencies say overwrite is no longer
sufficient, so if you're *that* worried overwrite won't help, and if
you're not that worried writing zeros is prolly good enough.

  However, the writing zeros part is broken in at least Win 2003 and
Win XP 64-bit.See MSKB 952630 for details and the hotfix.  No
mention of other releases, so I guess they are not broken (?).

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952630

  (How do you screw up writing zeros until EOF?  Sometimes I think
Microsoft couldn't fall out of bed without needing to install a
Service Pack and a patch first.)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM, S Powell powe...@gmail.com wrote:
 There are a whole slew of security reasons why you'll not find one
 that you can run remotely, or not boot from the CD.

  You can certainly do raw disk overwrites remotely on Unix/Linux
(including the Unixy part of Mac OS X).

  This will do a write zeros to every block (single-pass) on the first disk:

dd if=/zev/zero of=/dev/sda

  This will do a multi-pass overwrite with sophisticated patterns
and/or random bytes (assuming you have the GNU toolset installed):

shred /dev/sda

  It helps that remote vs local is a lot more transparent on *nix
vs Windows, but there's still no technical reason I know of why
Windows shouldn't be able to do a similar thing remotely, for
non-system disks.  You'd prolly need a special utility to write the
disk directly, but it should be doable.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread RichardMcClary
rant
Perhaps if those who re-wrote the regulations saying that overwrite is no 
longer sufficient were to receive a couple hundred thousand old hard 
drives (especially all at once), they might re-consider that regulation.
/rant
--
Richard D. McClary
Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group 
ASPCA®
 

Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote on 06/15/2010 10:59:57 AM:

[snip]
   It doesn't do any fancy overwrite patterns, but I'm not sure those
 really matter anymore.  Government agencies say overwrite is no longer
 sufficient, so if you're *that* worried overwrite won't help, and if
 you're not that worried writing zeros is prolly good enough.
 
   However, the writing zeros part is broken in at least Win 2003 and
 Win XP 64-bit.See MSKB 952630 for details and the hotfix.  No
 mention of other releases, so I guess they are not broken (?).
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/952630
 
   (How do you screw up writing zeros until EOF?  Sometimes I think
 Microsoft couldn't fall out of bed without needing to install a
 Service Pack and a patch first.)
 
 -- Ben
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread John Aldrich
I think you meant /dev/zero, not /zev/zero :-)



-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM, S Powell powe...@gmail.com wrote:
 There are a whole slew of security reasons why you'll not find one
 that you can run remotely, or not boot from the CD.

  You can certainly do raw disk overwrites remotely on Unix/Linux
(including the Unixy part of Mac OS X).

  This will do a write zeros to every block (single-pass) on the first disk:

dd if=/zev/zero of=/dev/sda

  This will do a multi-pass overwrite with sophisticated patterns
and/or random bytes (assuming you have the GNU toolset installed):

shred /dev/sda

  It helps that remote vs local is a lot more transparent on *nix
vs Windows, but there's still no technical reason I know of why
Windows shouldn't be able to do a similar thing remotely, for
non-system disks.  You'd prolly need a special utility to write the
disk directly, but it should be doable.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Jonathan Link
If the speed of the CD boot is getting to you, transfer it to a USB flash
memory device, and boot from that.  I do that for UBCD4Win, whic has DBAN on
it.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM, S Powell powe...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are a whole slew of security reasons why you'll not find one
 that you can run remotely, or not boot from the CD.

 we use the native Disk Utility in OS X, just pull the HD and plug it
 in using a USB to IDE/SATA connector.

 but hey, If you do find one that you can run remotely please let us know.


 Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.



 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:40, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)
  joe.haral...@ge.com wrote:
  Not looking to leave DBAN. Looking at options. I also have a need for a
  tool that can be used remotely. I would like to clean Data drive and not
  have to boot from cd.
 
 
  Joe Haralson
 
  Network Infrastructure Team
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:12 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL
 
  Why the interest in leaving DBAN?  It is what I've used for years
 
  Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com
  6/15/2010 8:06 AM 
  Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use DBAN
  but was exploring other options.
 
  Joe Haralson
 
  Network Infrastructure Team
 
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:10 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
 I think you meant /dev/zero, not /zev/zero :-)

  Uhhh... my Linux box has a French accent.  ;-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: DISK WIPING TOOL - Thanks

2010-06-15 Thread Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)
Thanks to everyone for there response. 
 
Joe Haralson

Network Infrastructure Team

GE - Rail Services

160 N. Clark

Chicago, Il 60601

Office: (312) 853-5014

( DC: : *8 750-5014

( Cell: : (312)590-0048

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From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL


If the speed of the CD boot is getting to you, transfer it to a USB
flash memory device, and boot from that.  I do that for UBCD4Win, whic
has DBAN on it.


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:56 AM, S Powell powe...@gmail.com wrote:


There are a whole slew of security reasons why you'll not find
one
that you can run remotely, or not boot from the CD.

we use the native Disk Utility in OS X, just pull the HD and
plug it
in using a USB to IDE/SATA connector.

but hey, If you do find one that you can run remotely please let
us know.


Google.com  Learn it. Live it. Love it.



On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:40, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin,
non-GE)

joe.haral...@ge.com wrote:
 Not looking to leave DBAN. Looking at options. I also have a
need for a
 tool that can be used remotely. I would like to clean Data
drive and not
 have to boot from cd.


 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team


 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:12 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

 Why the interest in leaving DBAN?  It is what I've used for
years

 Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com
 6/15/2010 8:06 AM 
 Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently
use DBAN
 but was exploring other options.

 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team



 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/
~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog!
~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




 

 


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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:08 PM,  richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 Perhaps if those who re-wrote the regulations saying that overwrite is no
 longer sufficient were to receive a couple hundred thousand old hard drives
 (especially all at once), they might re-consider that regulation.

  ... Is the ASPCA subject to DoD regulations or something?

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Crawford, Scott
Tu es un drôle de gars.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:10 PM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
 I think you meant /dev/zero, not /zev/zero :-)

  Uhhh... my Linux box has a French accent.  ;-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Richard Stovall
DoG regs, I would think.

(Sorry)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:08 PM,  richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
  Perhaps if those who re-wrote the regulations saying that overwrite is no
  longer sufficient were to receive a couple hundred thousand old hard
 drives
  (especially all at once), they might re-consider that regulation.

  ... Is the ASPCA subject to DoD regulations or something?

 -- Ben

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Don Guyer
And if all else fails, use a BFH.

 

J

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox  Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com 

 

From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

 

DoG regs, I would think.

 

(Sorry)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:08 PM,  richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
 Perhaps if those who re-wrote the regulations saying that overwrite is
no
 longer sufficient were to receive a couple hundred thousand old hard
drives
 (especially all at once), they might re-consider that regulation.

 ... Is the ASPCA subject to DoD regulations or something?


-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 15 Jun 2010 at 11:40, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, n  wrote:

 Not looking to leave DBAN. Looking at options. I also have a need for a
 tool that can be used remotely. I would like to clean Data drive and not
 have to boot from cd. 

Heidi's Eraser has a right-click option to erase an entire drive (e.g. a data 
partition).  If you have remote-access (VNC, RDP) to another machine, you could 
certainly run Eraser remotely that way.  Not sure about NET USEd drives, 
though, you'll have to experiment.

Eraser is an advanced security tool for Windows which allows you to 
completely remove sensitive data from your hard drive by overwriting it 
several times with carefully selected patterns. Eraser is currently 
supported under Windows XP (with Service Pack 3), Windows Server 2003 
(with Service Pack 2), Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7 and 
Windows Server 2008 R2.

Eraser is Free software and its source code is released under GNU General 
Public License.

  http://eraser.heidi.ie/


--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Kurt Buff
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443.aspx

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:40, Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE)
joe.haral...@ge.com wrote:
 Not looking to leave DBAN. Looking at options. I also have a need for a
 tool that can be used remotely. I would like to clean Data drive and not
 have to boot from cd.


 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team


 -Original Message-
 From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:12 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

 Why the interest in leaving DBAN?  It is what I've used for years

 Haralson, Joe (GE Comm Fin, non-GE) joe.haral...@ge.com
 6/15/2010 8:06 AM 
 Does anyone have a good Disk cleaning free tool? I currently use DBAN
 but was exploring other options.

 Joe Haralson

 Network Infrastructure Team



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Re: DISK WIPING TOOL

2010-06-15 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
angu...@geoapps.com wrote:
 Heidi's Eraser has a right-click option to erase an entire
 drive ... Not sure about NET USEd drives, though ...

  I'm near-positive you won't be able to overwrite an *entire disk*
via NET USE .  Mapped drives are really just accessing a network
file protocol; the client has no knowledge of the underlying storage.

  You should be able to overwrite individual files on a network drive, though.

  At least, in theory.  One complication in all this is that modern
storage systems may not overwrite-in-place, or may write data to more
than one location.  For example, if the filesystem has journaling
and/or copy-on-write features.  So when you write zeros to the file
you want to erase, what you end up doing is writing zeros to a bunch
of new blocks, while leaving the original blocks untouched on disk.

-- Ben

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