RE: Forefront client security
+1 I heard they will just be calling it Endpoint Protection. The home version is still Security Essentials at this time. From: Art DeKneef [art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront client security From what I remember. Forefront Client Security was the original product/name. The name changed to Forefront Endpoint Protection with the initial System Center products. It is now called System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection. I wonder what it will be called next? -Original Message- From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront client security How is this different from SCEP? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront client security
I think they are planning to at some point to kill of Security Essentials unless they decide to allow it to be installed on Win 8 machines. Those machines come with Defender as the malware protection. I am not to sure about that but I only have one running at home and so far I haven't seen anything bit it yet. Jon From: mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:04:17 -0700 Subject: RE: Forefront client security +1 I heard they will just be calling it Endpoint Protection. The home version is still Security Essentials at this time. From: Art DeKneef [art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront client security From what I remember. Forefront Client Security was the original product/name. The name changed to Forefront Endpoint Protection with the initial System Center products. It is now called System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection. I wonder what it will be called next? -Original Message- From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront client security How is this different from SCEP? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront client security
The Windows Defender in Win8 does the same as MSE (AFAICT), so it's just a name/rebranding exercise. Cheers Ken From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@live.com] Sent: Saturday, 23 March 2013 11:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront client security I think they are planning to at some point to kill of Security Essentials unless they decide to allow it to be installed on Win 8 machines. Those machines come with Defender as the malware protection. I am not to sure about that but I only have one running at home and so far I haven't seen anything bit it yet. Jon From: mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edumailto:mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:04:17 -0700 Subject: RE: Forefront client security +1 I heard they will just be calling it Endpoint Protection. The home version is still Security Essentials at this time. From: Art DeKneef [art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront client security From what I remember. Forefront Client Security was the original product/name. The name changed to Forefront Endpoint Protection with the initial System Center products. It is now called System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection. I wonder what it will be called next? -Original Message- From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront client security How is this different from SCEP? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Forefront client security
Isn't Forefront the Home/SMB version? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:11:31 -0800 Subject: Forefront client security How is this different from SCEP? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront client security
From what I remember. Forefront Client Security was the original product/name. The name changed to Forefront Endpoint Protection with the initial System Center products. It is now called System Center 2012 Endpoint Protection. I wonder what it will be called next? -Original Message- From: Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife [mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 2:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront client security How is this different from SCEP? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Forefront roadmap changes
Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-changes-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Forefront roadmap changes
I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Mary Jo Foley's take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
That's what I figured, but if UAG requires TMG, isn't it, by definition, an add on, and therefore would have no feature overlap? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Yes, and no. It depends. (Can you tell that I am a consultant?) UAG was initially a FORK of TMG. It started with an earlier release of TMG and has not maintained feature parity. One would PRESUME that since, at one point, they were the same code base that it would be easier to integrate the changes from TMG to UAG. I have no idea if that is true or not. But at least currently, that has not happened. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes That's what I figured, but if UAG requires TMG, isn't it, by definition, an add on, and therefore would have no feature overlap? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley's take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read
Re: Forefront roadmap changes
So much for the purchase/demise of Sybari. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 06:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley’s take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: “If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day� From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it’s not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
We're about waist deep in a migration to O365, so I'm not too upset about losing Forefront for Exchange and even if we stayed in-house, I like that its just built in in 2013. However, if we lose TMG and the accompanying website filtering capabilities, we're looking at a pretty big cost increase to re-add something like WebSense. I was quite happy when that functionality was added to TMG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley's take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Oh, it lives on in FOPE. FOPE is hugely profitable for MSFT and it represents the BEST kind of revenue stream – recurring revenue. What we see disappearing is the store-based scanning from Sybari. MSFT is of the opinion that excellent edge protection and excellent client protection means that store-based scanning is no longer necessary. I think they are full of crap. What they are really saying is “we have not seen a virus like ILOVEYOU in a long time and we think we can prevent it”. Blah blah blah. On private mailing lists I’ve been called a luddite. :-P From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes So much for the purchase/demise of Sybari. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 06:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley’s take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: “If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day� From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it’s not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
NO. Only single engine (basic) scanning is built into Exchange 2013 and the capabilities of the single engine and associated infrastructure are quite restricted when compared to FPE. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes We're about waist deep in a migration to O365, so I'm not too upset about losing Forefront for Exchange and even if we stayed in-house, I like that its just built in in 2013. However, if we lose TMG and the accompanying website filtering capabilities, we're looking at a pretty big cost increase to re-add something like WebSense. I was quite happy when that functionality was added to TMG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley's take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
Re: Forefront roadmap changes
We can call you a luddite on a public list if you feel you have been missing that experience :) On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Oh, it lives on in FOPE. ** ** FOPE is hugely profitable for MSFT and it represents the BEST kind of revenue stream – recurring revenue. ** ** What we see disappearing is the store-based scanning from Sybari. MSFT is of the opinion that excellent edge protection and excellent client protection means that store-based scanning is no longer necessary. ** ** I think they are full of crap. ** ** What they are really saying is “we have not seen a virus like ILOVEYOU in a long time and we *think* we can prevent it”. ** ** Blah blah blah. On private mailing lists I’ve been called a luddite. :-P** ** ** ** *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:12 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront roadmap changes ** ** So much for the purchase/demise of Sybari. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families *From*: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent*: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 06:11 PM *To*: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject*: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley’s take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: “If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day� *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it’s not on par with TMG. *From:* Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone -- *From: *Kurt Buff *Sent: *9/12/2012 2:51 PM *To: *NT System Admin Issues *Subject: *Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
HAH. That’s ok. I’m just conservative. “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” - George Santayana From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes We can call you a luddite on a public list if you feel you have been missing that experience :) On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Oh, it lives on in FOPE. FOPE is hugely profitable for MSFT and it represents the BEST kind of revenue stream – recurring revenue. What we see disappearing is the store-based scanning from Sybari. MSFT is of the opinion that excellent edge protection and excellent client protection means that store-based scanning is no longer necessary. I think they are full of crap. What they are really saying is “we have not seen a virus like ILOVEYOU in a long time and we think we can prevent it”. Blah blah blah. On private mailing lists I’ve been called a luddite. :-P From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.orgmailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes So much for the purchase/demise of Sybari. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 06:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley’s take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: “If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day� From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it’s not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body
Re: Forefront roadmap changes
No, it's old school on the public lists... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com wrote: We can call you a luddite on a public list if you feel you have been missing that experience :) On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: Oh, it lives on in FOPE. FOPE is hugely profitable for MSFT and it represents the BEST kind of revenue stream – recurring revenue. What we see disappearing is the store-based scanning from Sybari. MSFT is of the opinion that excellent edge protection and excellent client protection means that store-based scanning is no longer necessary. I think they are full of crap. What they are really saying is “we have not seen a virus like ILOVEYOU in a long time and we think we can prevent it”. Blah blah blah. On private mailing lists I’ve been called a luddite. :-P From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes So much for the purchase/demise of Sybari. John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 06:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley’s take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: “If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day� From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it’s not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
RE: Forefront roadmap changes
Ahh. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes NO. Only single engine (basic) scanning is built into Exchange 2013 and the capabilities of the single engine and associated infrastructure are quite restricted when compared to FPE. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes We're about waist deep in a migration to O365, so I'm not too upset about losing Forefront for Exchange and even if we stayed in-house, I like that its just built in in 2013. However, if we lose TMG and the accompanying website filtering capabilities, we're looking at a pretty big cost increase to re-add something like WebSense. I was quite happy when that functionality was added to TMG. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Yeah, well, TMG and on-premises Forefront for Exchange are the biggest losses IMO. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Mary Jo Foley's take. http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-axes-many-of-its-forefront-enterprise-security-products-704166/?s_cid=e550 Mostly the same stuff, but ya gotta love this line: If you're going to do a big product-family discontinuation that needs some air cover, there's no day better than an iPhone launch day From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]mailto:[mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes I anticipate that UAG will continue development and enhancement. But right now, it's not on par with TMG. From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu]mailto:[mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront roadmap changes Oh really? Interesting. I'm pretty unfamiliar with UAG, having vever run it. But, yeah that sounds likely. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Kurt Buff Sent: 9/12/2012 2:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes I'm going to guess it will, because you can't run UAG without TMG. But that's just a guess... On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if TMGs functionality will be rolled into UAG. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront roadmap changes Nice to see that UAG has been left alone, I think. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.commailto:mich...@smithcons.com wrote: FYI. http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2012/09/12/important-c hanges-to-forefront-product-roadmaps.aspx Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business
Re: Forefront
Is it a pretty streamlined process to remove the old and install the new without too much exposure during the process? Just curious... Don K From: Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:27 AM Subject: RE: Forefront I’ve had probably half a dozen good sized customers (5-10 K desktops each) move from Symantec or McAfee to FEP in the past 12-18 months and they’ve all been quite happy with it. Not to mention they’re saving a lot of money in the cases that they already owned FEP. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From:Thozama Nonxuba [mailto:nyib...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 1:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Hi My renewal for Symantec Endpoint Protection Manager Anti-Virus is coming up. The feauture I like the most is the blocking of usb devices and applications. I dont rate it much as as a pure AV as I had a virus come through that was immediately picked up by Ms Security Essentials . So I block USB devices and CD-ROMS and have a good DMZ to protect the network. I know Group Policy can block USB devices but I rate the Symantec interface. I am also looking at Forefront. Anyone else use both and can offer a balanced perspective ? Thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA
Assuming TMG doesn't block whatever URL is in this hypothetical 0-day, then it's added no value really as it gets passed right through. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 From: Derrenbacker, L. Jonathan [mailto:jderrenbac...@kshgs.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: re: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA As far as the security benefit, with just NAT, if a new IIS 0-day comes out and someone turns it into a worm before MS can patch it, your internal core network(everything) is potentially compromised. If you have forefront in a DMZ, only your DMZ boxes are compromised. My only skepticism is if your CAS/HUB have to still have port 80/443 open to forefront, it would seem to me any exploit used to get into forefront could also be used to pivot from forefront to the CAS/HUB. Jon On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Harry Singh hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, what are the added security advantages over a NAT'd connection through a FW ? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA
I've deployed this lots of times. It works great although the benefit is questionable if you ask me. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA Anyone here use Forefront TMG to reverse proxy outlook web access on Exchange 2010? I like the idea of OWA/ActiveSync/OutlookAnywhere being in a DMZ, but it definitally adds cost. I'm curious if anyone has done it, if they recommend it, any issues, etc. Thanks, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA
Why? *ASB *(Find me online via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... * On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote: I've deployed this lots of times. It works great although the benefit is questionable if you ask me. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA Anyone here use Forefront TMG to reverse proxy outlook web access on Exchange 2010? I like the idea of OWA/ActiveSync/OutlookAnywhere being in a DMZ, but it definitally adds cost. I'm curious if anyone has done it, if they recommend it, any issues, etc. Thanks, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA
Not sure how much value you get from a couple servers plus associated load balancing infrastructure that are passing back HTTPS/SMTP versus just NATing it across the firewall. Looking at most of the large scale Exchange deployments I've worked plus all my current mid-scale customers, very few of them have any sort of TMG style appliance in front of stuff. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 1:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA Why? ASB (Find me online via About.Mehttp://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com wrote: I've deployed this lots of times. It works great although the benefit is questionable if you ask me. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132tel:312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.commailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA Anyone here use Forefront TMG to reverse proxy outlook web access on Exchange 2010? I like the idea of OWA/ActiveSync/OutlookAnywhere being in a DMZ, but it definitally adds cost. I'm curious if anyone has done it, if they recommend it, any issues, etc. Thanks, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA
Ah... Thanks. Personally, that's the way I have almost always done it (NAT'd). *ASB *(Find me online via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... * On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.comwrote: *Not sure how much value you get from a couple servers plus associated load balancing infrastructure that are passing back HTTPS/SMTP versus just NATing it across the firewall. Looking at most of the large scale Exchange deployments I’ve worked plus all my current mid-scale customers, very few of them have any sort of TMG style appliance in front of stuff. * * * *Thanks,* *Brian Desmond* *br...@briandesmond.com* br...@briandesmond.com** * * *c – 312.731.3132* * * *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2011 1:56 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA Why? *ASB *(Find me online via About.Me http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...** * * * On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote: I've deployed this lots of times. It works great although the benefit is questionable if you ask me. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA Anyone here use Forefront TMG to reverse proxy outlook web access on Exchange 2010? I like the idea of OWA/ActiveSync/OutlookAnywhere being in a DMZ, but it definitally adds cost. I'm curious if anyone has done it, if they recommend it, any issues, etc. Thanks, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA
I know literally thousands of people who have done it. Ranging from small to mid to ginormous enterprise customers. Lots of advantages *if* security is a priorty. If the firm sees security as PIA and bad things happen to other people - probably not worth the effort. But there are a lot of other advantages too - again, balance the advantages with the cost. HTH, Tom -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA Anyone here use Forefront TMG to reverse proxy outlook web access on Exchange 2010? I like the idea of OWA/ActiveSync/OutlookAnywhere being in a DMZ, but it definitally adds cost. I'm curious if anyone has done it, if they recommend it, any issues, etc. Thanks, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA
Out of curiosity, what are the added security advantages over a NAT'd connection through a FW ? On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Thomas W Shinder MD tshin...@tacteam.netwrote: I know literally thousands of people who have done it. Ranging from small to mid to ginormous enterprise customers. Lots of advantages *if* security is a priorty. If the firm sees security as PIA and bad things happen to other people - probably not worth the effort. But there are a lot of other advantages too - again, balance the advantages with the cost. HTH, Tom -Original Message- From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront TMG -- Reverse Proxy OWA Anyone here use Forefront TMG to reverse proxy outlook web access on Exchange 2010? I like the idea of OWA/ActiveSync/OutlookAnywhere being in a DMZ, but it definitally adds cost. I'm curious if anyone has done it, if they recommend it, any issues, etc. Thanks, Jon ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Forefront Endpoint Beta
I have been. It has changed quite a lot over time. May still be a change or 2 coming before it is released. Any specific questions? Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Endpoint Beta Anyone playing with this? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront Endpoint Beta
Not really. We just recently setup FCS, and was wondering how different it is now. I understand it works with SCCM now, instead of MoM. Is the interface useful yet? Just finding out what machines are up to date and which aren't is a trial at the moment... Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com 7/29/2010 4:00 PM I have been. It has changed quite a lot over time. May still be a change or 2 coming before it is released. Any specific questions? Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Endpoint Beta Anyone playing with this? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront Client Security
It's also very competitively priced as part of the eCAL step-up. If you license through the consolidated CAL options all the Forefront stuff is included in the eCAL step up so it's something very attractive to look at from a dollars perspective as well. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 1:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, a smidge complicated. I'd go further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all user-friendly. Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the SecurityTools malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS. Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took about 30 seconds. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security I use it. Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's. It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs like that. It just runs, properly. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Client Security Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront Client Security
I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, a smidge complicated. I'd go further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all user-friendly. Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the SecurityTools malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS. Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took about 30 seconds. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security I use it. Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's. It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs like that. It just runs, properly. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Client Security Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront Client Security
That about sums up our experience. I last heard the long awaited next version is due out the second half of this year. It's been pushed back a number of times, as they add requested features. I'm hoping that means improved reporting, and more granular control from the console. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, a smidge complicated. I'd go further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all user-friendly. Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the SecurityTools malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS. Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took about 30 seconds. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security I use it. Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's. It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs like that. It just runs, properly. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Client Security Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Probable Contrarian ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront Client Security
I've seen it miss some tools that it should have found when they were dropped onto the machine and not pick them up for a few days. Not good but at least no hacks were done or they were blocked if attempted. Jon On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 8:47 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I agree on all counts. Very easy to deploy and update via WSUS, and the client software seems to work fine--doesn't overtax the workstations or cause weirdness. The MOM console is, indeed, a smidge complicated. I'd go further than that and say that it's just plain badly-designed, and not at all user-friendly. Roger mentioned false negatives. I've faced that with the SecurityTools malware. Microsoft's argument is that whoever makes SecurityTools is regularly modifying the executable just enough to make it undetectable with FCS's definitions. So one version of the malware comes out, Microsoft modifies defs to detect it, then another slightly different version comes out. The malware always seems to be a step ahead of FCS. Now, I should mention that we run our machines tightly-locked. Not a single one of our users runs with admin rights, and our students run with software restriction policies on top of that. Plus, our e-mail antivirus is quite effective, and our machines stay full-patched. So our layered approach to security probably helps reduce our odds of being infected with malware regardless of the AV product we use. And on those occasions where we did get infected (i.e., with SecurityTools) there was no real damage and cleanup took about 30 seconds. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 7:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Client Security I use it. Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's. It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs like that. It just runs, properly. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Client Security Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written communications to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to public disclosure. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront Client Security
I use it. Its trivial to deploy, choose an OU and it sets up the GPO's. It just runs:) The mom console is a smidge complicated, but I can tell you I have never had an issue with false positives or blue screens or any bs like that. It just runs, properly. -Original Message- From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Client Security Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront Client Security
We used FF until January of this year. I inherited the installation and like Joe says, it just runs. I didn't like it, though, because I couldn't really tell much of what was it was doing. However, with FF we battled issues with malware nearly weekly. Since moving to VIPRE in January I can remember only two infections that required either manual cleaning or reimaging. Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront Client Security
I used it but foind the reporting side left a lot to desire. It does work but depending on how you have it installed and reporting you may not get reports when something bad happens. Jon On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: We used FF until January of this year. I inherited the installation and like Joe says, it just runs. I didn't like it, though, because I couldn't really tell much of what was it was doing. However, with FF we battled issues with malware nearly weekly. Since moving to VIPRE in January I can remember only two infections that required either manual cleaning or reimaging. Die dulci fruere! Roger Wright ___ On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Joseph Heaton jhea...@dfg.ca.gov wrote: Anyone using this? I know some of you are using Forefront, but I was wondering if anyone is using the Client Security to manage it. I've seen the console, and it's pretty barren. How is it to actually use, and deploy to clients, etc? ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront Configuration
You set them in the management console in the FFCS server within each policy. There is a fairly extensive list of applications and services that you can just click to pick already included as well as the ability to add your own. TVK From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 4:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Configuration How does one tune the criteria for the agents wrt what it perceives as a vuln such as the firewall? Thanks, jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront
Try and install a working version without the full SQL. Jon On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests: “SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, or SQL Server 2000” You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I think for Express… That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
Yeah, I read some more last night. The component that manages non server clients needs SQL 2005. The console that could only manage server components can use SQL2000+ and Express. What's worse is the Beta for the next version needs SQL and SCOM from what I read. Lame... jlc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront Try and install a working version without the full SQL. Jon On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests: SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, or SQL Server 2000 You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I think for Express... That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront
I was under the impression that like the current version of Forefront if you did not have one of the System Center products it would install a cut down version that only dealt with Forefront. From what I saw on my installation the reason for SQL WAS the MOM package. I just hope that Sterling will work with SCE. I have that up and running now. I would not mind doing a re-install when Streling is released IF it works well together. The down side is that Sterling is supposed to go Gold about the time for our renewal. Man I would really hate to be one of the first to roll that package. Jon On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.comwrote: Yeah, I read some more last night. The component that manages non server clients needs SQL 2005. The console that could only manage server components can use SQL2000+ and Express. What’s worse is the Beta for the next version needs SQL and SCOM from what I read. Lame… jlc *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2009 6:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront Try and install a working version without the full SQL. Jon On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests: “SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, or SQL Server 2000” You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I think for Express… That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront
I'm using it with WSUS and AD for about 2500 clients. I'm reasonably happy with it. I wish I could get better reports out of it though. It's very good about giving you all the information you want about a specific thing, but a report for all the blocked/cleaned files for all the machines for April just isn't happening. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Anyone using Forefront? I have looked at F-Secure (don’t like it at all), looking at Kaspersky now (Seems ok so far) but I read up on Forefront and the AD integration and expected way of use and design of the app looks very nice. Thanks, jlc -- Not Jobbed ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
Stirling does not require SCOM, but rather contains the SCOM agent (much the way that FFCS uses the MOM agent). If you are using SCOM already, then the SCOM agent that already exists on your clients will work with Stirling. I cannot get a straight answer from Microsoft regarding whether the already existing SCOM agent that SCE uses will work with Stirling. They have assured me however that Stirling will work with SCE, worst case you end up with 2 different versions of the SCOM agent on your clients. I'm still not convinced that they won't give the agents the same rev. number which would result in either Stirling or SCE overwriting the others agent during installation thereby nullifying the existing product. I'll definitely be checking it very closely in the lab before turning the Stirling/SCE combo loose on my little part of the world. TVK From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 9:13 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront I was under the impression that like the current version of Forefront if you did not have one of the System Center products it would install a cut down version that only dealt with Forefront. From what I saw on my installation the reason for SQL WAS the MOM package. I just hope that Sterling will work with SCE. I have that up and running now. I would not mind doing a re-install when Streling is released IF it works well together. The down side is that Sterling is supposed to go Gold about the time for our renewal. Man I would really hate to be one of the first to roll that package. Jon On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Yeah, I read some more last night. The component that manages non server clients needs SQL 2005. The console that could only manage server components can use SQL2000+ and Express. What's worse is the Beta for the next version needs SQL and SCOM from what I read. Lame... jlc From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront Try and install a working version without the full SQL. Jon On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.commailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests: SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, or SQL Server 2000 You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I think for Express... That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
I use it for clients. Does that mean you like it? Any pros/cons you can share:) How effective is it, I read one review about the speed of updates and amount of detections is low, but I took that report w/ a grain of salt. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
I use it and really like it. I made a simple change to my AD structure to accommodate it and it just works. I've used it for about a year and a half now and have had no viruses or spyware get through. It also has a system health check that runs on all clients which is very nice. It will give you warnings about machines with too many administrator accounts, user accounts without passwords, systems that are too far out of cycle for updates, etc. I really like having all that in one report. TVK From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Anyone using Forefront? I have looked at F-Secure (don't like it at all), looking at Kaspersky now (Seems ok so far) but I read up on Forefront and the AD integration and expected way of use and design of the app looks very nice. Thanks, jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront
Since there are what 3 different kinds/varieties of Forefront i was unsure of which one you were interested in. It seems okay it updates it catches things the way it interfaces with SCE is the pits (it does not actually talk at all). Reports are all web based you can allow who you want to see what they need to see. Deployment is not straight forward, but you can get help. It was not my first choice but with the economy the way it is I was lucky to not get asked about going with out any AV. Control is handled by GPO. Management server is just for monitoring nothing more really updates are from WSUS or AU. Depends on your needs as to if it will work for you. I was not overly enthused to find out that it required a full SQL install, Express would not work. It is not designed to work with any of the System Center line. It was designed for MOM. Anything specific you want to know? Jon On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I use it for clients. Does that mean you like it? Any pros/cons you can share:) How effective is it, I read one review about the speed of updates and amount of detections is low, but I took that report w/ a grain of salt. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
I was not overly enthused to find out that it required a full SQL install, Express would not work Ouch, that would get expensive... I'll look into this, thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Like Tim said it works. I would have liked to wait until Sterling was out but was told to cut costs. So that did not give me any play. For the EDU market Microsoft does make it hard to look elsewhere. I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I have a dual processor license with only 5 user licenses so I had to be creative on how I got all my SQL requirements met. Jon On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: I was not overly enthused to find out that it required a full SQL install, Express would not work Ouch, that would get expensive… I’ll look into this, thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests: SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, or SQL Server 2000 You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I think for Express... That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
Doesn't Express have a 4GB database size limit? Might want to factor that in as well. From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests: SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, or SQL Server 2000 You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I think for Express... That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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My 2pennies worth: As I have to deal with SQL quite often, I find this page quite helpful when comparing 2005 features: http://www.microsoft.com/Sqlserver/2005/en/us/compare-features.aspx The main things that I look at between express and full versions are CPU/RAM recognization, database size limitations, and ability to run maintenance plans in SQL (which aren't included with express). Sincerely, Eric Hanna Lead Enterprise Technical Services Specialist Sunbelt Software From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Doesn't Express have a 4GB database size limit? Might want to factor that in as well. From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests: SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, or SQL Server 2000 You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I think for Express... That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client. jlc ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
The big difference you'll find with Forefront (and most of the System Center products also) is the limited capabilities of Reporting Services in Express edition. There is an add-on for SQL Express that allows for better SRS ability than what you get out of the box. (Unfortunately its name slips my mind at the moment.) TVK From: Eric Hanna [mailto:eri...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront My 2pennies worth: As I have to deal with SQL quite often, I find this page quite helpful when comparing 2005 features: http://www.microsoft.com/Sqlserver/2005/en/us/compare-features.aspx The main things that I look at between express and full versions are CPU/RAM recognization, database size limitations, and ability to run maintenance plans in SQL (which aren't included with express). Sincerely, Eric Hanna Lead Enterprise Technical Services Specialist Sunbelt Software From: Richard Stovall [mailto:richard.stov...@researchdata.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront Doesn't Express have a 4GB database size limit? Might want to factor that in as well. From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Forefront I was just not happen that our resellar did not make the SQL requirement clear up front. I am just reading the installation Guide and it suggests: SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition (and above), SQL Server 2005 Express Edition, or SQL Server 2000 You have more than 2000 users? I saw somewhere that 2000 users was the limit I think for Express... That would make this cheap? $100.00 per console, and $13.00 per client. jlc ... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront?
Bill, Also be aware that at this time Forefront, while one anti-malware suite, is not all run from one console. Client Security, Exchange and SharePoint Security all need their own consoles to manage them. Having one console to run all A/M for your network will/should be included in the next version (Sterling). Tim From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? No it does not come with SQL but you will need it. I found that out the hard way and the management piece will not work with Express it must have Analysis Services to run. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.commailto:blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Wow...what a great responses! Thanks, everyone for the input. I'm going to be meeting with the tech's from other offices tomorrow and will suggest Forefront for Exchange and client machines as a possible solution. If I'm reading the literature correctly, FF for Exchange does do antispam so that's encouraging. And it comes with an installation of SQL that is dedicated to FF. Again, thanks a million! Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? I didn't and would not suggest waiting either. I was only making a comment on the fact there are issues within certain context that I would hope are fixed in the next version. Thanks though for letting me know about the push backs on the the releases. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Steve Burkett steve.burk...@stemcor.commailto:steve.burk...@stemcor.com wrote: Don't wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-for-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they're ditching. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 April 2009 10:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I'm hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don't mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! :) I like that it's integrated with AD and WSUS-pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don't really know how to judge its efficacy. We've not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don't have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.commailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront? Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome
Re: Forefront?
Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I’m hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don’t mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! J I like that it’s integrated with AD and WSUS—pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don’t really know how to judge its efficacy. We’ve not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don’t have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us *From:* Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Forefront? Hello all… I’m tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I’ve taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. *Bill Lambert* *Windows System Administrator* *Concuity* *A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. * *Phone 847-941-9206* *Fax 847-465-9147* ** *NASDAQ: TTPA*** *The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. *** ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
Re: Forefront?
I didn't and would not suggest waiting either. I was only making a comment on the fact there are issues within certain context that I would hope are fixed in the next version. Thanks though for letting me know about the push backs on the the releases. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Steve Burkett steve.burk...@stemcor.comwrote: Don’t wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-for-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they’re ditching. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 April 2009 10:11 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I’m hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don’t mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! J I like that it’s integrated with AD and WSUS—pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don’t really know how to judge its efficacy. We’ve not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don’t have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us *From:* Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Forefront? Hello all… I’m tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I’ve taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. *Bill Lambert* *Windows System Administrator* *Concuity* *A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. * *Phone 847-941-9206* *Fax 847-465-9147* ** *NASDAQ: TTPA* *The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. * === STEMCOR CONFIDENTIALITY AND DISCLAIMER NOTICE This e-mail is intended only for the addressees named in it. The contents should not be disclosed to any other person nor copies taken. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of Stemcor unless otherwise specifically stated. Stemcor does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message nor responsibility for any change made to it after it was sent by the original sender. You are advised to carry out a virus check before opening any attachment as Stemcor does not accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any
RE: Forefront?
Don't wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-fo r-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they're ditching. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 April 2009 10:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I'm hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don't mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! J I like that it's integrated with AD and WSUS-pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don't really know how to judge its efficacy. We've not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don't have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront? Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. === STEMCOR CONFIDENTIALITY AND DISCLAIMER NOTICE This e-mail is intended only for the addressees named in it. The contents should not be disclosed to any other person nor copies taken. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of Stemcor unless otherwise specifically stated. Stemcor does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message nor responsibility for any change made to it after it was sent by the original sender. You are advised to carry out a virus check before opening any attachment as Stemcor does not accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of any software viruses. You should be aware that Stemcor reserves the right to read incoming and outgoing emails. === ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
RE: Forefront?
Wow...what a great responses! Thanks, everyone for the input. I'm going to be meeting with the tech's from other offices tomorrow and will suggest Forefront for Exchange and client machines as a possible solution. If I'm reading the literature correctly, FF for Exchange does do antispam so that's encouraging. And it comes with an installation of SQL that is dedicated to FF. Again, thanks a million! Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? I didn't and would not suggest waiting either. I was only making a comment on the fact there are issues within certain context that I would hope are fixed in the next version. Thanks though for letting me know about the push backs on the the releases. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Steve Burkett steve.burk...@stemcor.com wrote: Don't wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-fo r-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they're ditching. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 April 2009 10:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I'm hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don't mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! J I like that it's integrated with AD and WSUS-pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don't really know how to judge its efficacy. We've not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don't have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront? Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. === STEMCOR CONFIDENTIALITY AND DISCLAIMER NOTICE This e-mail is intended only for the addressees
Re: Forefront?
No it does not come with SQL but you will need it. I found that out the hard way and the management piece will not work with Express it must have Analysis Services to run. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Wow…what a great responses! Thanks, everyone for the input. I’m going to be meeting with the tech’s from other offices tomorrow and will suggest Forefront for Exchange and client machines as a possible solution. If I’m reading the literature correctly, FF for Exchange does do antispam so that’s encouraging. And it comes with an installation of SQL that is dedicated to FF. Again, thanks a million! Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront? I didn't and would not suggest waiting either. I was only making a comment on the fact there are issues within certain context that I would hope are fixed in the next version. Thanks though for letting me know about the push backs on the the releases. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Steve Burkett steve.burk...@stemcor.com wrote: Don’t wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-for-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they’re ditching. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 April 2009 10:11 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I’m hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don’t mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! J I like that it’s integrated with AD and WSUS—pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don’t really know how to judge its efficacy. We’ve not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don’t have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us *From:* Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Forefront? Hello all… I’m tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I’ve taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. *Bill Lambert* *Windows System Administrator* *Concuity* *A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. * *Phone 847-941-9206* *Fax 847-465-9147* ** *NASDAQ: TTPA* *The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution
RE: Forefront?
I've always heard that it is never a bad thing to have multiple lines of defense on a network. I agree with what was mentioned about VIPRE, although haven't used Ninja yet. The other thing to remember is that no Antivirus software is perfect and IMO it comes down to what you are comfortable with and gives the best support. _ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? No first-hand experience with Forefront, but from general reputation, I'd be wary. I use two products from Sunbelt, Ninja for e-mail and Vipre for everything else. No infections, reasonable ease of administration, and support is excellent. OTOH, on my day job we run McAfee, and in just two months we've had three infections that in my view should have been stopped cold. David On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. -- David _ Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. - Aaron Levenstein ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
RE: Forefront?
My apologies, Jon, you are right...the Exchange product doesn't come with SQL. I was thinking of the Client Management piece. It's early and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet...heh. Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? No it does not come with SQL but you will need it. I found that out the hard way and the management piece will not work with Express it must have Analysis Services to run. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Wow...what a great responses! Thanks, everyone for the input. I'm going to be meeting with the tech's from other offices tomorrow and will suggest Forefront for Exchange and client machines as a possible solution. If I'm reading the literature correctly, FF for Exchange does do antispam so that's encouraging. And it comes with an installation of SQL that is dedicated to FF. Again, thanks a million! Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? I didn't and would not suggest waiting either. I was only making a comment on the fact there are issues within certain context that I would hope are fixed in the next version. Thanks though for letting me know about the push backs on the the releases. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Steve Burkett steve.burk...@stemcor.com wrote: Don't wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-fo r-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they're ditching. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 April 2009 10:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I'm hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don't mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! J I like that it's integrated with AD and WSUS-pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don't really know how to judge its efficacy. We've not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don't have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront? Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files
RE: Forefront?
You can get SQL Express with Advanced Services that includes Analysis Services. That's available for both SQL 2005 and SQL 2008. From: Jon Harris [jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? No it does not come with SQL but you will need it. I found that out the hard way and the management piece will not work with Express it must have Analysis Services to run. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.commailto:blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Wow…what a great responses! Thanks, everyone for the input. I’m going to be meeting with the tech’s from other offices tomorrow and will suggest Forefront for Exchange and client machines as a possible solution. If I’m reading the literature correctly, FF for Exchange does do antispam so that’s encouraging. And it comes with an installation of SQL that is dedicated to FF. Again, thanks a million! Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? I didn't and would not suggest waiting either. I was only making a comment on the fact there are issues within certain context that I would hope are fixed in the next version. Thanks though for letting me know about the push backs on the the releases. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Steve Burkett steve.burk...@stemcor.commailto:steve.burk...@stemcor.com wrote: Don’t wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-for-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they’re ditching. From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.commailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 April 2009 10:11 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I’m hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don’t mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! :) I like that it’s integrated with AD and WSUS—pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don’t really know how to judge its efficacy. We’ve not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don’t have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.commailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront? Hello all… I’m tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I’ve taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147
Re: Forefront?
Please check that again. The one I found only had Report Server not Analysis Services. It was SQL 2005 Express with Advanced Services. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@owa.smithcons.com wrote: You can get SQL Express with Advanced Services that includes Analysis Services. That's available for both SQL 2005 and SQL 2008. -- *From:* Jon Harris [jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 09, 2009 10:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront? No it does not come with SQL but you will need it. I found that out the hard way and the management piece will not work with Express it must have Analysis Services to run. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.comwrote: Wow…what a great responses! Thanks, everyone for the input. I’m going to be meeting with the tech’s from other offices tomorrow and will suggest Forefront for Exchange and client machines as a possible solution. If I’m reading the literature correctly, FF for Exchange does do antispam so that’s encouraging. And it comes with an installation of SQL that is dedicated to FF. Again, thanks a million! Bill Lambert Concuity 847-941-9206 *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront? I didn't and would not suggest waiting either. I was only making a comment on the fact there are issues within certain context that I would hope are fixed in the next version. Thanks though for letting me know about the push backs on the the releases. Jon On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Steve Burkett steve.burk...@stemcor.com wrote: Don’t wait on the next version coming out, they pushed the Client Security 2.0 back to first half of 2010 the other day, and the Forefront Server Security for Exchange back to the fourth quarter of 2009. http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/archive/2009/04/03/schedule-update-for-forefront-stirling.aspx Quite like how the ForeFront for Exchange and Sharepoint packages can run anti-virus engines from Kaspersky Labs, CA and Sophos so you could be quite covered by the different definitions from various manufacturers. Microsoft OneCare was the consumer product they’re ditching. *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 April 2009 10:11 *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Forefront? Some if the things you need to watch out for are whether you are putting it on Windows 2008 or 2003, do you own SQL 2005 or 2008, are you using any of the System Center products. Like John the EDU discount just about kills any price competition. I use it here for that reason. I have had to touch it rarely, it works, it does seem to catch bugs, but it is not simple to setup if you have any of the mixture I mentioned to watch out for. There is a new version coming out that I hope will remove many of the issues I had. It does need a full SQL to install and function correctly but it can be installed without the management portion but why do that. Considering how hard NOD32 was to set up and get running Forefront could be done by a teenager. Considering just the install of the management portion NOD beat on the install but getting the configuration correct was much easier to do on Forefront. If you have any specific questions I will try to help but there are others using it that I know have more experience than me on the llist. Jon On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: We use it, but I’m hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don’t mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! J I like that it’s integrated with AD and WSUS—pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don’t really know how to judge its efficacy. We’ve not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don’t have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us *From:* Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Forefront? Hello all… I’m tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I’ve taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. *Bill Lambert* *Windows System
RE: Forefront?
Bill, The thing you did not mention was the size of your site. If you have a few thousand workstations to protect and are not afraid of a serious amount of work doing the deployment, forefront is not a bad solution, but it's top heavy. We have VIPRE deployments of up to 1,000 machines go very smooth and are adding hundreds of customers every month at the moment: V4, expected Q3 has a firewall built-in so there is just one phone number for tech support: us. And we're all here right in Tampa Bay. http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront? Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. .. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
Re: Forefront?
No first-hand experience with Forefront, but from general reputation, I'd be wary. I use two products from Sunbelt, Ninja for e-mail and Vipre for everything else. No infections, reasonable ease of administration, and support is excellent. OTOH, on my day job we run McAfee, and in just two months we've had three infections that in my view should have been stopped cold. David On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Hello all… I’m tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I’ve taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. *Bill Lambert* *Windows System Administrator* *Concuity* *A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. * *Phone 847-941-9206* *Fax 847-465-9147* *NASDAQ: TTPA*** *The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. *** -- David _ Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. - Aaron Levenstein ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.gif
RE: Forefront?
Not too sure about forefront myself. I do remember some talk a while back that it was possibly going away so I would verify that before I signed up with them. That could have been just a rumor but check it out. -Original Message- From: David [mailto:blazer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Forefront? No first-hand experience with Forefront, but from general reputation, I'd be wary. I use two products from Sunbelt, Ninja for e-mail and Vipre for everything else. No infections, reasonable ease of administration, and support is excellent. OTOH, on my day job we run McAfee, and in just two months we've had three infections that in my view should have been stopped cold. David On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Bill Lambert blamb...@concuity.com wrote: Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. -- David _ Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. - Aaron Levenstein ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront?
We use it, but I'm hardly an expert on it. To be honest, I don't mess with it much. Which I guess could be viewed as a good thing! :) I like that it's integrated with AD and WSUS-pushing it down to clients and keeping it updated is simple. I don't really know how to judge its efficacy. We've not had any known malware infections while using it, but we also keep our workstations locked pretty tight (e.g., users don't have admin rights and with many accounts we restrict executables using GPO). We like the pricing; as an educational entity, we get deep discounts from Microsoft. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Bill Lambert [mailto:blamb...@concuity.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront? Hello all... I'm tired of using multiple products to protect desktops and email from spam, viruses and spyware. I've taken a look at the MS Forefront product line and it looks like a pretty good solution. I have Exchange 2003 and XP clients. Can anyone comment on its effectiveness, installation, management and use both at the admin and user levels? Any other recommendations are welcome as well. Thanks. Bill Lambert Windows System Administrator Concuity A healthcare division of Trintech, Inc. Phone 847-941-9206 Fax 847-465-9147 [cid:image001.gif@01C9B88A.3F4F77A0] NASDAQ: TTPA The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attached files, is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the recipient) you are hereby notified that you have received this communication in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~inline: image001.gif
Re: Forefront
What are you Forefront users using for a desktop firewall? On 9/10/08, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I am… and I think it is great. Anything in particular you are curious about? My favorite part is having it install to all new clients that are added to the domain with no manual interaction at all. Nicest installation and configuration that I have seen in an AM product, and I have used McAfee, Symantec, Trend and Eset. Tim *From:* Justin Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Forefront Is anybody here using MS Forefront in the enterprise, and if so, what do you think of it? My flamesuit is on, thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront
I am more interested in who John bought from? Jon On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Justin Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you Forefront users using for a desktop firewall? On 9/10/08, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I am… and I think it is great. Anything in particular you are curious about? My favorite part is having it install to all new clients that are added to the domain with no manual interaction at all. Nicest installation and configuration that I have seen in an AM product, and I have used McAfee, Symantec, Trend and Eset. Tim *From:* Justin Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Forefront Is anybody here using MS Forefront in the enterprise, and if so, what do you think of it? My flamesuit is on, thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront
It was in place when I started my current assignment. Since the server was rebuilt, it seems to be fairly solid. No issues that I know of. The rebuild stemmed from incorrect setups and improper admin/config decisions. Justin Thomas wrote: Is anybody here using MS Forefront in the enterprise, and if so, what do you think of it? My flamesuit is on, thanks. -- Matt Cross, MCSE: Messaging mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
Yes I am... and I think it is great. Anything in particular you are curious about? My favorite part is having it install to all new clients that are added to the domain with no manual interaction at all. Nicest installation and configuration that I have seen in an AM product, and I have used McAfee, Symantec, Trend and Eset. Tim From: Justin Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Forefront Is anybody here using MS Forefront in the enterprise, and if so, what do you think of it? My flamesuit is on, thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Forefront
Not sure which version of Forefront you mean, but we use Forefront Client Security. Have been for about six months. Seems to work fine, and I like that its updates are handled via our existing WSUS infrastructure. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County (FL) School District Justin Thomas wrote: Is anybody here using MS Forefront in the enterprise, and if so, what do you think of it? My flamesuit is on, thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Forefront
I have a technical demo scheduled with MS, and hopefully you'll be able to give a reality check to their answers. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes I am… and I think it is great. Anything in particular you are curious about? My favorite part is having it install to all new clients that are added to the domain with no manual interaction at all. Nicest installation and configuration that I have seen in an AM product, and I have used McAfee, Symantec, Trend and Eset. Tim *From:* Justin Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:18 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Forefront Is anybody here using MS Forefront in the enterprise, and if so, what do you think of it? My flamesuit is on, thanks. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
