RE: Home Antivirus
Which seems to be the current trick of some of the malware these days. I've seen a Win 7 machine with the user not a local admin and UAC enabled appear to be hosed by malware. It is only for the current profile though. But tricks like setting the hidden flag on every folder and file it can make for a confusing time for the user. Running as non-admin does make a huge difference though. It stops the majority (for now) of malware and reduces the impact to the current user profile. I think it is still the single most effective security option apart from disconnecting the network cable and taking away the keyboard and mouse J From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012 5:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus One doesn't have to be an admin to infect one's own user profile. That's also why non-admins can install Chrome - it installs into the user profile. But a non-admin has a better chance of avoiding a rootkit. Carl From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus How much less likely is one to get infected running as a non-admin? Does it depend on the OS? I ask because I've cleaned up infections on Windows7 Pro PCs where the user was definitely not running as an admin. One PC in question was also set up to require additional credentials for any software installation. We never did determine the source of the malware. Thanks, Mike From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus From personal experience it does not matter how good the anti-malware software is if you have users (home or corp) that run as administrators regularly, fight you tooth and nail on patching the machine, and download/install all the neat stuff on the web they will get hit by something. Previous $dayjob$ once I got administration approval to pull admin privileges, start patching on a regular basis, and require proof of need to install anything not on the standard software list with proof that it was not going to open up the internal network to a virus most of the anti-malware software will keep things under control. Most homeowners prefer to run with admin privileges, fight patching, and install all kinds of garbage they really don't need. Those are the ones that get hit repeatably but malware. Jon On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I've been using it for several years and it hasn't failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeek mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana
Re: Home Antivirus
You forgot get a Mac :-) On 16 February 2012 20:56, James Hill falc...@gmail.com wrote: Which seems to be the current trick of some of the malware these days. I’ve seen a Win 7 machine with the user not a local admin and UAC enabled appear to be “hosed” by malware. It is only for the current profile though. But tricks like setting the hidden flag on every folder and file it can make for a confusing time for the user. ** ** Running as non-admin does make a huge difference though. It stops the majority (for now) of malware and reduces the impact to the current user profile. I think it is still the single most effective security option apart from disconnecting the network cable and taking away the keyboard and mouse J ** ** *From:* Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, 14 February 2012 5:04 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Home Antivirus ** ** One doesn't have to be an admin to infect one's own user profile. That's also why non-admins can install Chrome – it installs into the user profile. But a non-admin has a better chance of avoiding a rootkit. ** ** Carl ** ** *From:* ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 10:10 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Home Antivirus ** ** How much less likely is one to get infected running as a non-admin? Does it depend on the OS? I ask because I’ve cleaned up infections on Windows7 Pro PCs where the user was definitely not running as an admin. One PC in question was also set up to require additional credentials for any software installation. We never did determine the source of the malware. ** ** Thanks, ** ** Mike ** ** *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 9:42 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Home Antivirus ** ** From personal experience it does not matter how good the anti-malware software is if you have users (home or corp) that run as administrators regularly, fight you tooth and nail on patching the machine, and download/install all the neat stuff on the web they will get hit by something. Previous $dayjob$ once I got administration approval to pull admin privileges, start patching on a regular basis, and require proof of need to install anything not on the standard software list with proof that it was not going to open up the internal network to a virus most of the anti-malware software will keep things under control. Most homeowners prefer to run with admin privileges, fight patching, and install all kinds of garbage they really don't need. Those are the ones that get hit repeatably but malware. Jon On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF *From:* Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. ** ** ** ** On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:** ** On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions
RE: Home Antivirus
Lol! It's still an issue if the keyboard and mouse are plugged in though J From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, 17 February 2012 7:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus You forgot get a Mac :-) On 16 February 2012 20:56, James Hill falc...@gmail.com wrote: Which seems to be the current trick of some of the malware these days. I've seen a Win 7 machine with the user not a local admin and UAC enabled appear to be hosed by malware. It is only for the current profile though. But tricks like setting the hidden flag on every folder and file it can make for a confusing time for the user. Running as non-admin does make a huge difference though. It stops the majority (for now) of malware and reduces the impact to the current user profile. I think it is still the single most effective security option apart from disconnecting the network cable and taking away the keyboard and mouse J From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, 14 February 2012 5:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus One doesn't have to be an admin to infect one's own user profile. That's also why non-admins can install Chrome - it installs into the user profile. But a non-admin has a better chance of avoiding a rootkit. Carl From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus How much less likely is one to get infected running as a non-admin? Does it depend on the OS? I ask because I've cleaned up infections on Windows7 Pro PCs where the user was definitely not running as an admin. One PC in question was also set up to require additional credentials for any software installation. We never did determine the source of the malware. Thanks, Mike From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus From personal experience it does not matter how good the anti-malware software is if you have users (home or corp) that run as administrators regularly, fight you tooth and nail on patching the machine, and download/install all the neat stuff on the web they will get hit by something. Previous $dayjob$ once I got administration approval to pull admin privileges, start patching on a regular basis, and require proof of need to install anything not on the standard software list with proof that it was not going to open up the internal network to a virus most of the anti-malware software will keep things under control. Most homeowners prefer to run with admin privileges, fight patching, and install all kinds of garbage they really don't need. Those are the ones that get hit repeatably but malware. Jon On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I've been using it for several years and it hasn't failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeek mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email
Re: Home Antivirus
There are so many free windows antivirus solutions available, I tend to only recommend two for private use: MSSE Panda Cloud AV MSSE is very good traditional antivirus from Microsoft for Free. It's hard to beat that. Panda Cloud AV is remarkably light weight. It works great on older computers. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:55:29 -0800 Subject: Re: Home Antivirus Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeek Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
Avast! A good product, good price (for home users), and excellent support forums. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal Infrastructure Engineer Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 February 2012 06:59 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus Haven't noticed AVG being that bad on CPU lately, but that might be because I rarely watch it run on single cores. But with lower CPU intensity comes lesser detection. See the virusbtn RAP chart. MSSE has not been in the same league with the other well-known names (the well known names that score well) for a while. It's stayed in the same general spot while the others have improved. However, I'd take it MSSE in a heartbeat over McAfee or Norton. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]mailto:[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus AVG is too processor intensive. For security and low profile MSE works great. MMF mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeekmailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.comhttp://gmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin “Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Hoople Ltd. You should be aware that Hoople Ltd. monitors its email service. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may contain material protected by law from being passed on. If you are not the intended recipient and have received this e-mail in error, you are advised that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and destroy all copies of it. ~ Finally
Re: Home Antivirus
Likewise. I use either MSE or Avira (despite the latter's atrocious begging for money) * * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.comwrote: That's the same reason I dropped Avast! for SME. Rod Trent wrote: AVG is too processor intensive. For security and low profile MSE works great. MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF *From:* Cynicalgeek mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.**sunbelt-software.comntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com mailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/**77u2zryhttp://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
“That’s no moon.” From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus But it's not McAfee!! Which, right now, is McFree! (After rebate.) On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
Plus, you can have it talk like a pirate to let you know your definitions have been updated… ☺ Joe Heaton ITB – Windows Server Support From: Phil Randal [mailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:12 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus Avast! A good product, good price (for home users), and excellent support forums. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal Infrastructure Engineer Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.ukmailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 February 2012 06:59 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus Haven't noticed AVG being that bad on CPU lately, but that might be because I rarely watch it run on single cores. But with lower CPU intensity comes lesser detection. See the virusbtn RAP chart. MSSE has not been in the same league with the other well-known names (the well known names that score well) for a while. It's stayed in the same general spot while the others have improved. However, I'd take it MSSE in a heartbeat over McAfee or Norton. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]mailto:[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus AVG is too processor intensive. For security and low profile MSE works great. MMF mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeekmailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.comhttp://gmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin “Any opinion expressed in this e-mail or any attached files are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Hoople Ltd. You should be aware that Hoople Ltd. monitors its email service. This e-mail and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. This communication may
RE: Home Antivirus
Naw… phone company, power company, internet provider, cable company, etc all talk like pirates when they notify you of rate changes. From: Heaton, Joseph@DFG [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus Plus, you can have it talk like a pirate to let you know your definitions have been updated… ☺ Joe Heaton ITB – Windows Server Support From: Phil Randal [mailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:12 AM To: Heaton, Joseph@DFG; NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus Avast! A good product, good price (for home users), and excellent support forums. Cheers, Phil -- Phil Randal Infrastructure Engineer Hoople Ltd | Thorn Office Centre | Hereford HR2 6JT Tel: 01432 260415 | Email: phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.ukmailto:phil.ran...@hoopleltd.co.uk From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]mailto:[mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 February 2012 06:59 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus Haven't noticed AVG being that bad on CPU lately, but that might be because I rarely watch it run on single cores. But with lower CPU intensity comes lesser detection. See the virusbtn RAP chart. MSSE has not been in the same league with the other well-known names (the well known names that score well) for a while. It's stayed in the same general spot while the others have improved. However, I'd take it MSSE in a heartbeat over McAfee or Norton. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]mailto:[mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus AVG is too processor intensive. For security and low profile MSE works great. MMF mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeekmailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.comhttp://gmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin “Any opinion expressed in this e-mail
Re: Home Antivirus
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: You couldnt pay me to put McCrappy on any of my computers. Unlike ME2, I'm willing to negotiate. Let the bidding start at $10,000 per PC per year. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
About 50% of the PCs I clean for people have McAfee installed. Definitely not at the top of the list for me. Was that spam anyway? :) From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Home Antivirus Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Home Antivirus
On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
Lol, sorry, I thought your mail account might have been hijacked by a spammer. Don’t forgot to use those sarcasm tags next time. :) From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus Not unless sarcasm is spam. In that case, I stand guilty. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:51 PM, ntsysadmin ntsysad...@rccs.orgmailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org wrote: About 50% of the PCs I clean for people have McAfee installed. Definitely not at the top of the list for me. Was that spam anyway? :) From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Home Antivirus Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Home Antivirus
TAANSTAFL On Monday, February 13, 2012, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: But it's not McAfee!! Which, right now, is McFree! (After rebate.) On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Home Antivirus
Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeek Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Home Antivirus
AVG is too processor intensive. For security and low profile MSE works great. MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeek Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
I had lost faith in AVG a few years ago, but it seems to work better now. I do have one client that uses the business version with success. I often install the free version for home users whose PCs I’ve just cleaned up. It’s hard to tell someone that the AV they just paid for is worthless and they need to buy something else. Installing the free AVG product makes this a little less painful. I also like to install the free Secunia PSI scanner for home users, to try to help them stay up to date on patches. Any comments on that program? Thanks, Mike From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 8:55 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeekmailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.comhttp://gmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Home Antivirus
From personal experience it does not matter how good the anti-malware software is if you have users (home or corp) that run as administrators regularly, fight you tooth and nail on patching the machine, and download/install all the neat stuff on the web they will get hit by something. Previous $dayjob$ once I got administration approval to pull admin privileges, start patching on a regular basis, and require proof of need to install anything not on the standard software list with proof that it was not going to open up the internal network to a virus most of the anti-malware software will keep things under control. Most homeowners prefer to run with admin privileges, fight patching, and install all kinds of garbage they really don't need. Those are the ones that get hit repeatably but malware. Jon On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF *From:* Cynicalgeek cynicalg...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Home Antivirus
That's the same reason I dropped Avast! for SME. Rod Trent wrote: AVG is too processor intensive. For security and low profile MSE works great. MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF *From:* Cynicalgeek mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com mailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com http://gmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com mailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
How much less likely is one to get infected running as a non-admin? Does it depend on the OS? I ask because I've cleaned up infections on Windows7 Pro PCs where the user was definitely not running as an admin. One PC in question was also set up to require additional credentials for any software installation. We never did determine the source of the malware. Thanks, Mike From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus From personal experience it does not matter how good the anti-malware software is if you have users (home or corp) that run as administrators regularly, fight you tooth and nail on patching the machine, and download/install all the neat stuff on the web they will get hit by something. Previous $dayjob$ once I got administration approval to pull admin privileges, start patching on a regular basis, and require proof of need to install anything not on the standard software list with proof that it was not going to open up the internal network to a virus most of the anti-malware software will keep things under control. Most homeowners prefer to run with admin privileges, fight patching, and install all kinds of garbage they really don't need. Those are the ones that get hit repeatably but malware. Jon On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.netmailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I've been using it for several years and it hasn't failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeekmailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.commailto:rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.comhttp://gmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
Haven't noticed AVG being that bad on CPU lately, but that might be because I rarely watch it run on single cores. But with lower CPU intensity comes lesser detection. See the virusbtn RAP chart. MSSE has not been in the same league with the other well-known names (the well known names that score well) for a while. It's stayed in the same general spot while the others have improved. However, I'd take it MSSE in a heartbeat over McAfee or Norton. From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus AVG is too processor intensive. For security and low profile MSE works great. MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I’ve been using it for several years and it hasn’t failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeek mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Sent from Kaiten Mail for Android. Please excuse my brevity. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Home Antivirus
One doesn't have to be an admin to infect one's own user profile. That's also why non-admins can install Chrome - it installs into the user profile. But a non-admin has a better chance of avoiding a rootkit. Carl From: ntsysadmin [mailto:ntsysad...@rccs.org] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 10:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Home Antivirus How much less likely is one to get infected running as a non-admin? Does it depend on the OS? I ask because I've cleaned up infections on Windows7 Pro PCs where the user was definitely not running as an admin. One PC in question was also set up to require additional credentials for any software installation. We never did determine the source of the malware. Thanks, Mike From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Home Antivirus From personal experience it does not matter how good the anti-malware software is if you have users (home or corp) that run as administrators regularly, fight you tooth and nail on patching the machine, and download/install all the neat stuff on the web they will get hit by something. Previous $dayjob$ once I got administration approval to pull admin privileges, start patching on a regular basis, and require proof of need to install anything not on the standard software list with proof that it was not going to open up the internal network to a virus most of the anti-malware software will keep things under control. Most homeowners prefer to run with admin privileges, fight patching, and install all kinds of garbage they really don't need. Those are the ones that get hit repeatably but malware. Jon On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:55 PM, MMF mmfree...@ameritech.net wrote: Any comments on AVG? I've been using it for several years and it hasn't failed me yet! MMF From: Cynicalgeek mailto:cynicalg...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: Home Antivirus The same things that infect MSSE also infect McAfee, Norton, et al. If you're going the paid route, supposedly Kaspersky is the absolute best. I've been using MSSE for almost 2.5 years and have been very pleased. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: Hurry up! Time's almost out on the deal to get McAfee free for 3PCs. http://preview.tinyurl.com/77u2zry Receive a $55 prepaid card by mail from McAfee! Expires on 2/15/12 So in two days, the Internet will be a safer place. ;-) If I'm going the free AV route, I'd prolly go MS Security Essentials. While it's limited in features, it does stop malware and spyware, and updates happen with Windows Update. For all of WU's problems, other things all seem to suck more. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- -cynicalgeek- cynicalgeekatgmail.com -- ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
