Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
I thought life was death. And taxes. And aren't those the two things that are constant no matter what, so the thing that changes doesn't change at all? Hoo boy, now I'm confused. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: ...and will given enough time. Change is life. -- ME2 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) tom.alver...@ngc.com wrote: Remember back when we were all using Altavista and this new kid Google came along. We dropped Altavista like a rock. Same thing could happen to Google. -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? This too shall pass... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
No, those are unavoidable, but not constant. On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Richard Stovall rich...@gmail.com wrote: I thought life was death. And taxes. And aren't those the two things that are constant no matter what, so the thing that changes doesn't change at all? Hoo boy, now I'm confused. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: ...and will given enough time. Change is life. -- ME2 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) tom.alver...@ngc.com wrote: Remember back when we were all using Altavista and this new kid Google came along. We dropped Altavista like a rock. Same thing could happen to Google. -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? This too shall pass... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Remember back when we were all using Altavista and this new kid Google came along. We dropped Altavista like a rock. Same thing could happen to Google. -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? This too shall pass... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
...and will given enough time. Change is life. -- ME2 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) tom.alver...@ngc.com wrote: Remember back when we were all using Altavista and this new kid Google came along. We dropped Altavista like a rock. Same thing could happen to Google. -Original Message- From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? This too shall pass... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Making it a little more fun, I learned some time ago that Google doesn't look at the '.' in my address, but considers lee.douglas and leedouglas to be identical. What's maddening is that I originally tried to sign up as LeeDouglas and was told it was unavailable, hence I ended up with lee.doug...@gmail.com. Now I get mail using both addresses. Sigh On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Lee Douglas • Principal Phil Ellis Associates, Inc. PO Box 900 • Wrightsville Beach • NC • 28480-0900 Phone: 919-481-0160 Email: leedoug...@pellis.com * Web:http://www.pellis.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/leedouglas Recruiting Science Technology Member: PDA / ISPE / ACS / RAPS / ASQ / AOAC Pharmaceutical and Medical Device Search and Recruiting. Celebrating 31 Years of Excellence ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com , ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comc.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comequally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Same thing happened to me. When you view a message that goes to your address (without the period, mind you) a little note shows up under the To: line that says Is this me? or something similar, and it explains the whole ordeal. On Feb 10, 2010 3:31pm, Lee Douglas lee.doug...@gmail.com wrote: Making it a little more fun, I learned some time ago that Google doesn't look at the '.' in my address, but considers lee.douglas and leedouglas to be identical. What's maddening is that I originally tried to sign up as LeeDouglas and was told it was unavailable, hence I ended up with lee.doug...@gmail.com. Now I get mail using both addresses. Sigh On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Lee Douglas • Principal Phil Ellis Associates, Inc. PO Box 900 • Wrightsville Beach • NC • 28480-0900 Phone: 919-481-0160 Email: leedoug...@pellis.com * Web:http://www.pellis.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/leedouglas Recruiting Science Technology Member: PDA / ISPE / ACS / RAPS / ASQ / AOAC Pharmaceutical and Medical Device Search and Recruiting. Celebrating 31 Years of Excellence ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com mailto:c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.commailto:c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.commailto:ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.commailto:c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.commailto:c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.commailto:chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.commailto:c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.commailto:accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.commailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.commailto:chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.commailto:chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.commailto:chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.ukmailto:and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.euhttp://www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Kinda like Exchange can have multiple smtp aliases for the same account..;) On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl *From:* Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comc.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comequally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Keller, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Actually not quite the same! :-) Exchange requires you to specifically define the email addresses it will accept. With gmail, an infinite number of addresses can match a mailbox. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Kinda like Exchange can have multiple smtp aliases for the same account..;) On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Keller, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com mailto:c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Maybe you could email google.support+non.complaint.je...@gmail.com and ask them. :D Steven On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail’s behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the ‘+’s for “throw-away” addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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That's why I said kinda like;) On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: Actually not quite the same! :-) Exchange requires you to specifically define the email addresses it will accept. With gmail, an infinite number of addresses can match a mailbox. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Kinda like Exchange can have multiple smtp aliases for the same account..;) On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comc.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comequally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Keller, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke Sent from Keller, TX, United States ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Google is an internet darling and has been pretty much since day one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Most likely you only created your account as c.house...@gmail.com, and there really is no mailbox chouse...@gmail.com Here's the rest of the story: Google has stated (search through their help and blogs, I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but it *was* in Google) that if you have a mailbox that has a '.' in the middle of it, they will deliver mail to that mailbox if it's missing the '.'! So, mail addressed to both/either kurt.b...@gmail.com and kurtb...@gmail.com are supposed to reach the same mailbox. Kurt On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 13:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Plus, do a little digging and you'll see some serious Google connections to the US gov't. They're protected. Why do you think countries like China and Iran are banning them? Its a direct attack on the US. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Google is an internet darling and has been pretty much since day one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m..a. n...@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
The seriousness of China and Iran's actions doesn't justify the word attack. China and Iran ban them because they won't filter out search results that would give the people of those countries information the governments don't want them to have. Google used to play ball with China to filter results but recently quit doing so. And that's a good thing, even if it loses them the China or Iran business. They have plenty to do otherwise. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Plus, do a little digging and you'll see some serious Google connections to the US gov't. They're protected. Why do you think countries like China and Iran are banning them? Its a direct attack on the US. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Google is an internet darling and has been pretty much since day one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m..a. n...@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint
RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Like sell their own cable connection service... -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? The seriousness of China and Iran's actions doesn't justify the word attack. China and Iran ban them because they won't filter out search results that would give the people of those countries information the governments don't want them to have. Google used to play ball with China to filter results but recently quit doing so. And that's a good thing, even if it loses them the China or Iran business. They have plenty to do otherwise. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Plus, do a little digging and you'll see some serious Google connections to the US gov't. They're protected. Why do you think countries like China and Iran are banning them? Its a direct attack on the US. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Google is an internet darling and has been pretty much since day one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m..a. n...@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful
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Sheesh, I just tried it and had the exact same experience here, and to think I could have been using the original address I wanted without the dot that they wouldn't give me all these years...nice to know. From: Lee Douglas [mailto:lee.doug...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Making it a little more fun, I learned some time ago that Google doesn't look at the '.' in my address, but considers lee.douglas and leedouglas to be identical. What's maddening is that I originally tried to sign up as LeeDouglas and was told it was unavailable, hence I ended up with lee.doug...@gmail.com. Now I get mail using both addresses. Sigh On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Lee Douglas * Principal Phil Ellis Associates, Inc. PO Box 900 * Wrightsville Beach * NC * 28480-0900 Phone: 919-481-0160 Email: leedoug...@pellis.com * Web:http://www.pellis.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/leedouglas Recruiting Science Technology Member: PDA / ISPE / ACS / RAPS / ASQ / AOAC Pharmaceutical and Medical Device Search and Recruiting. Celebrating 31 Years of Excellence ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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LOL -ASB: http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Sent from my Verizon Smartphone -Original Message- From: Steven Peck sep...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:59:05 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Maybe you could email google.support+non.complaint.je...@gmail.com and ask them. :D Steven On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail’s behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the ‘+’s for “throw-away” addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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This too shall pass... -ASB: http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Sent from my Verizon Smartphone -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:01:06 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Google is an internet darling and has been pretty much since day one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.com equally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Assuming you are referencing the plans described here: http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/10/google-fiber-optic-network-home/ and not the ones described here: http://www.google.com/tisp/ All I can say is that I will give a more than serious look at any company willing to bring real gigabit to my house for the same price I currently pay for FIOS' 30/5. But, to be completely honest, I can't even conceive of what a gigabit Internet experience would be like. Perhaps it wouldn't be too different from today's speeds. I don't know. In any case, regardless of the ISP, I wonder if today's WiFi will be the rate limiting step for a lot of people for a long time to come. Now that 802.11g is both ubiquitous, and thought of ubiquitously as 'faster than your underlying internet connection', I wonder if there won't be a dip in the adoption curve even if stupid-fast connections are made available for cheap. Inquiring minds want to know (and want stupid-fast internet connections...) RS On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Like sell their own cable connection service... -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? The seriousness of China and Iran's actions doesn't justify the word attack. China and Iran ban them because they won't filter out search results that would give the people of those countries information the governments don't want them to have. Google used to play ball with China to filter results but recently quit doing so. And that's a good thing, even if it loses them the China or Iran business. They have plenty to do otherwise. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Plus, do a little digging and you'll see some serious Google connections to the US gov't. They're protected. Why do you think countries like China and Iran are banning them? It’s a direct attack on the US. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Google is an internet darling and has been pretty much since day one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com , ch.ou.s...e.m..a. n...@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comc.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comequally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic
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+1 -- ME2 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Andrew Levicki and...@levicki.me.ukwrote: Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com, ch.ou.s...e.m.@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comc.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comequally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.commailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Kind regards, Andrew Levicki MCITP MCSE CCNA and...@levicki.me.uk www.andrewlevicki.eu ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Event still, there are a LOT of potential surfers in China. -- ME2 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: The seriousness of China and Iran's actions doesn't justify the word attack. China and Iran ban them because they won't filter out search results that would give the people of those countries information the governments don't want them to have. Google used to play ball with China to filter results but recently quit doing so. And that's a good thing, even if it loses them the China or Iran business. They have plenty to do otherwise. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Plus, do a little digging and you'll see some serious Google connections to the US gov't. They're protected. Why do you think countries like China and Iran are banning them? It’s a direct attack on the US. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Google is an internet darling and has been pretty much since day one. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? So where's the Internet outrage against Google for being out of compliance? Or is Google simply indifferent, following the path blazed by Microsoft for ignoring standards? I guess they already are too big to fail and now also too big to be wrong? Carl From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? No. Gmail's behavior is not RFC compliant. They started out using the '+'s for throw-away addresses, but apparently websites caught onto that pretty quick so they expanded into full-stops. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Oh brother . I guess a mail server can do whatever it wants regarding matching addresses to mailboxes for delivery and no RFC cares? Thanks for clearing up the mystery. Carl From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Hi Carl, I believe that gmail ignores periods in the left hand side of the address, so in fact those two email addresses are the same account, i.e. not forwarding. You could equally say the same about c.h.o.u.s.e.m@gmail.com , ch.ou.s...e.m..a. n...@gmail.com, you get the idea. They also ignore anything after a plus symbol [ + ], therefore c.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n+anything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comc.h.o.u.s.e.m.a.n%2banything_you_like_in_h...@gmail.comequally goes the same way. Feel free to try the above and see if it works. I hope this helps. Andrew On 11 February 2010 06:25, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. snipped instructions for accessing my account, which apparently doesn't exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud
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I seriously doubt we would notice a difference. A 1Gb pipe just means you have 1Gb to the ISP. That doesn't mean other sites on the 'net will be able to feed you content at 1Gb/sec. On 2/10/2010 10:35 PM, Richard Stovall wrote: But, to be completely honest, I can't even conceive of what a gigabit Internet experience would be like. Perhaps it wouldn't be too different from today's speeds. I don't know. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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+1 I rarely find a site that can saturate my FIOS connection. -sc -Original Message- From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? I seriously doubt we would notice a difference. A 1Gb pipe just means you have 1Gb to the ISP. That doesn't mean other sites on the 'net will be able to feed you content at 1Gb/sec. On 2/10/2010 10:35 PM, Richard Stovall wrote: But, to be completely honest, I can't even conceive of what a gigabit Internet experience would be like. Perhaps it wouldn't be too different from today's speeds. I don't know. -- Phil Brutsche p...@optimumdata.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh?
Thanks for pointing out the official explanation. I didn't notice that link when I tested my dotless address earlier today.. I get the explanation but I don't get why I couldn't get that address in the first place, I had the same experience as Lee when I first signed up for gmail 5 years ago From: c.bo...@gmail.com [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Re: OT: Google Username Assistance - huh? Same thing happened to me. When you view a message that goes to your address (without the period, mind you) a little note shows up under the To: line that says Is this me? or something similar, and it explains the whole ordeal. On Feb 10, 2010 3:31pm, Lee Douglas lee.doug...@gmail.com wrote: Making it a little more fun, I learned some time ago that Google doesn't look at the '.' in my address, but considers lee.douglas and leedouglas to be identical. What's maddening is that I originally tried to sign up as LeeDouglas and was told it was unavailable, hence I ended up with lee.doug...@gmail.com. Now I get mail using both addresses. Sigh On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Carl Houseman c.house...@gmail.com wrote: OK, this seems very weird to me. For some time, mail addressed to chouse...@gmail.com has been delivered to my c.house...@gmail.com mailbox. I thought, at some point, I created the chouseman mailbox and configured forwarding. But I couldn't sign in to Google with the chouseman address and no attempts to use their automatic password reset worked. About 3 months ago I went the distance trying to reset the password, using the last resort method several times. Each time I received an automatic message telling me I should be able to access the account, but of course, I never could. And then today this comes in: From: accounts-nore...@google.com [mailto:accounts-nore...@google.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM To: chouse...@gmail.com Subject: Google Username Assistance We searched our database but we were unable to find any usernames associated with your email address chouse...@gmail.com. exist So the takeaway from that message is what, exactly? There's no username, therefore there is no account associated with chouse...@gmail.com? And nonetheless, I have to keep receiving e-mail for that address? I don't see where a Google account can have multiple e-mail addresses tied to it as Exchange can, but apparently that's what has happened? It's crap like this that will keep me from ever recommending cloud services from Google. Carl ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Lee Douglas * Principal Phil Ellis Associates, Inc. PO Box 900 * Wrightsville Beach * NC * 28480-0900 Phone: 919-481-0160 Email: leedoug...@pellis.com * Web:http://www.pellis.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/leedouglas Recruiting Science Technology Member: PDA / ISPE / ACS / RAPS / ASQ / AOAC Pharmaceutical and Medical Device Search and Recruiting. Celebrating 31 Years of Excellence ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
