RE: Phones
Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key bits. :) That's a bummer about being locked into those choices. I did use SSH on the pearl. Had to create a lot of customized entries in the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn't a big deal. I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that's just me. You're choices being limited, are all very different. I would think about what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that might help you make your decision. Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G. That too me, would be an important factor. Thanks, - JB From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada... So my only options are the listed ones, sigh... I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my company can't just *buy* me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don't even get me started :( So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh'ed on it (I might be stuck with that one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately cool. jlc From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that phone into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold. Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option? If you can swing it, get the Bold. I've used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine. There are free ones and paid for ones. I liked a paid for version of Rove's SSH client - not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore. Thanks, - JB From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Phones As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although I have used an iPhone before, I haven't used an ssh client on one, how shitty would that be? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I don't like ssh on the iphone, but that's because I don't care to type a whole lot on it. I still want a BT keyboard! On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com wrote: Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key bits. J That’s a bummer about being locked into those choices. I did use SSH on the pearl. Had to create a lot of customized entries in the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn’t a big deal. I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that’s just me. You’re choices being limited, are all very different. I would think about what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that might help you make your decision. Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G. That too me, would be an important factor. Thanks, - JB *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Phones Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada… So my only options are the listed ones, sigh… I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my company can’t just **buy** me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don’t even get me started L So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh’ed on it (I might be stuck with that one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately cool. jlc *From:* Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Phones I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that phone into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold. Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option? If you can swing it, get the Bold. I’ve used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine. There are free ones and paid for ones. I liked a paid for version of Rove’s SSH client – not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore. Thanks, - JB *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Phones As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although I have used an iPhone before, I haven’t used an ssh client on one, how shitty would that be? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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+1 BT keyboard for all smart phones Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577Office (707) 935-9387Fax (707) 766-4185Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com www.abideinternational.com -Original Message- From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I don't like ssh on the iphone, but that's because I don't care to type a whole lot on it. I still want a BT keyboard! On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com wrote: Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key bits. J That's a bummer about being locked into those choices. I did use SSH on the pearl. Had to create a lot of customized entries in the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn't a big deal. I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that's just me. You're choices being limited, are all very different. I would think about what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that might help you make your decision. Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G. That too me, would be an important factor. Thanks, - JB From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada... So my only options are the listed ones, sigh... I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my company can't just *buy* me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don't even get me started L So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh'ed on it (I might be stuck with that one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately cool. jlc From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that phone into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold. Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option? If you can swing it, get the Bold. I've used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine. There are free ones and paid for ones. I liked a paid for version of Rove's SSH client - not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore. Thanks, - JB From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Phones As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although I have used an iPhone before, I haven't used an ssh client on one, how shitty would that be? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Ok, there's a KB for the Pearl. I think I will get that, Fido is all sold out of iPhones anyway, sigh... Thanks for the insight guys! jlc -Original Message- From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones +1 BT keyboard for all smart phones Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577Office (707) 935-9387Fax (707) 766-4185Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com www.abideinternational.com -Original Message- From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I don't like ssh on the iphone, but that's because I don't care to type a whole lot on it. I still want a BT keyboard! On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com wrote: Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key bits. J That's a bummer about being locked into those choices. I did use SSH on the pearl. Had to create a lot of customized entries in the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn't a big deal. I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that's just me. You're choices being limited, are all very different. I would think about what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that might help you make your decision. Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G. That too me, would be an important factor. Thanks, - JB From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada... So my only options are the listed ones, sigh... I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my company can't just *buy* me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don't even get me started L So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh'ed on it (I might be stuck with that one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately cool. jlc From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that phone into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold. Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option? If you can swing it, get the Bold. I've used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine. There are free ones and paid for ones. I liked a paid for version of Rove's SSH client - not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore. Thanks, - JB From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Phones As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although I have used an iPhone before, I haven't used an ssh client on one, how shitty would that be? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L. Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect via the built-in Cisco VPN client. I had them test it with the vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked perfectly. Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are happy with it. I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN to work. On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile, where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network. So even if it did work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be able to use it. A bit pointless. I'd worry that the Pearl would be in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access. Seth ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Hrm, I sent email to a CCIE I know... Hopefully he has some insight! jlc -Original Message- From: S Conn. [mailto:sysadminli...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L. Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect via the built-in Cisco VPN client. I had them test it with the vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked perfectly. Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are happy with it. I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN to work. On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile, where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network. So even if it did work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be able to use it. A bit pointless. I'd worry that the Pearl would be in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access. Seth ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I've got an iPhone 3G for sale.. :) Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Ok, there's a KB for the Pearl. I think I will get that, Fido is all sold out of iPhones anyway, sigh... Thanks for the insight guys! jlc -Original Message- From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones +1 BT keyboard for all smart phones Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577Office (707) 935-9387Fax (707) 766-4185Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com www.abideinternational.com -Original Message- From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I don't like ssh on the iphone, but that's because I don't care to type a whole lot on it. I still want a BT keyboard! On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com wrote: Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key bits. J That's a bummer about being locked into those choices. I did use SSH on the pearl. Had to create a lot of customized entries in the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn't a big deal. I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that's just me. You're choices being limited, are all very different. I would think about what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that might help you make your decision. Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G. That too me, would be an important factor. Thanks, - JB From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada... So my only options are the listed ones, sigh... I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my company can't just *buy* me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don't even get me started L So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh'ed on it (I might be stuck with that one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately cool. jlc From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that phone into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold. Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option? If you can swing it, get the Bold. I've used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine. There are free ones and paid for ones. I liked a paid for version of Rove's SSH client - not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore. Thanks, - JB From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Phones As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although I have used an iPhone before, I haven't used an ssh client on one, how shitty would that be? Thanks! jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Yes, it does. And has since March '08. http://blogs.cisco.com/news/comments/apple_iphone_enterprise_ready_with_cisco_vpn/ IT was probably a consequence of the settlement between Apple and Cisco regarding the iPhone trademark. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: iPhones have built-in Cisco VPN? That just might give my manager the justification he needs to get us one. That and the fact that the CEO is getting one and my manager is already letting them know we don't have one so therefore are not familiar enough with them to provide necessary support. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S Conn. sysadminli...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L. Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect via the built-in Cisco VPN client. I had them test it with the vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked perfectly. Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are happy with it. I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN to work. On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile, where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network. So even if it did work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be able to use it. A bit pointless. I'd worry that the Pearl would be in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access. Seth ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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I've had one since 1st Gen. Used to carry a company-issued BB and my iPhone, but recently ditched the BB and carry just the iPhone now. Our CEO bought a 3GS and is ga-ga for it. Soon afterwards I heard we are most likely ditching the BES and BBs and going with iPhones across the company. How good/bad that will be, I don't know. But, in today's economy (especially real estate) it doesn't surprise me. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones iPhones have built-in Cisco VPN? That just might give my manager the justification he needs to get us one. That and the fact that the CEO is getting one and my manager is already letting them know we don't have one so therefore are not familiar enough with them to provide necessary support. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S Conn. sysadminli...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L. Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect via the built-in Cisco VPN client. I had them test it with the vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked perfectly. Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are happy with it. I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN to work. On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile, where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network. So even if it did work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be able to use it. A bit pointless. I'd worry that the Pearl would be in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access. Seth ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Thanks for that link Jonathan, it has just recently been decided that we will be ditching our Nortel VPN other network stuff in favor of Cisco, so that has suddenly become the buzz-word around here, so when I saw this mentioned, I naturally am very interested. It would probably make our manager very happy to know that the on-call person could vpn from wherever they are work on stuff.. Cisco equipment just started arriving this week. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, it does. And has since March '08. http://blogs.cisco.com/news/comments/apple_iphone_enterprise_ready_with_cisco_vpn/ IT was probably a consequence of the settlement between Apple and Cisco regarding the iPhone trademark. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote: iPhones have built-in Cisco VPN? That just might give my manager the justification he needs to get us one. That and the fact that the CEO is getting one and my manager is already letting them know we don't have one so therefore are not familiar enough with them to provide necessary support. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S Conn. sysadminli...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L. Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect via the built-in Cisco VPN client. I had them test it with the vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked perfectly. Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are happy with it. I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN to work. On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile, where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network. So even if it did work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be able to use it. A bit pointless. I'd worry that the Pearl would be in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access. Seth ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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iPhones have built-in Cisco VPN? That just might give my manager the justification he needs to get us one. That and the fact that the CEO is getting one and my manager is already letting them know we don't have one so therefore are not familiar enough with them to provide necessary support. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S Conn. sysadminli...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L. Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me. I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one). There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect via the built-in Cisco VPN client. I had them test it with the vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked perfectly. Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are happy with it. I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN to work. On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile, where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network. So even if it did work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be able to use it. A bit pointless. I'd worry that the Pearl would be in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access. Seth ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Nother option, Just put win 6.1 your you aging ppc6700. Works pretty good. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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1) The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to you) 2) I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6 3) Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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Thanks but no ... already got wm6 on it, sluggish, locks up a bit too much, and the phone has physical issues (center scroll stick switch is bad), batteries are aging and no longer holding full charge _ From: Glen Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Nother option, Just put win 6.1 your you aging ppc6700. Works pretty good. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
Ok, having a brain fart moment, uh, EAS ? -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from home biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature _ From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones 1) The instinct doesn’t sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to you) 2) I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6 3) Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. J Thanks, Jeremy Phillips From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
Definitely go with the Diamond. I had the chance to use one for a bit at TechEd this year and it was so nice I actually considered switching to Sprint, in spite of their craptacular support group, due how nice a phone it is. One of the really nice features is the motion detection that senses when the phone is placed face-down on a surface and switches the phone to meeting mode. Real slick , and a nice form-factor. Tim From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from home biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones 1) The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to you) 2) I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6 3) Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Phones
EAS = Exchange ActiveSync On 9/23/08, Erik Goldoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from home biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature -- *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Phones 1) The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to you) 2) I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6 3) Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. J Thanks, Jeremy Phillips *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 AM -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
ok, DUH, thanks ... not running exchange out of my home office, so no issue (for now) _ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones EAS = Exchange ActiveSync On 9/23/08, Erik Goldoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from home biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature _ From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones 1) The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to you) 2) I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6 3) Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. J Thanks, Jeremy Phillips From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 AM -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Phones
I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard, what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back? BTW, we can finally see the gphone. http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC - Original Message - From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Phones Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
The slide out keyboard is on the Touch Pro. The Diamond I used had the faceted back on it. Tim -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard, what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back? BTW, we can finally see the gphone. http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC - Original Message - From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Phones Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
The Diamond Pro has the slide out QWERTY. Sprint and VZW will have it mid/late Oct. - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard, what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back? BTW, we can finally see the gphone. http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC - Original Message - From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Phones Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
Gotta say I hate the slide-out design on the GPhone. Why leave the buttons at the base in place? For that matter can anyone who uses a touch screen phone explain to me why those dumb buttons even still exist on the phones at all? You never have a reason to use them since the same functions are built into soft keys on the screen. Ditch the 8 unneeded buttons and the stupid stick and give us bigger screens! Thanks, I feel better now. :-) TVK -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard, what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back? BTW, we can finally see the gphone. http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC - Original Message - From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Phones Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
Get yourself a Touch HD. ;) - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Gotta say I hate the slide-out design on the GPhone. Why leave the buttons at the base in place? For that matter can anyone who uses a touch screen phone explain to me why those dumb buttons even still exist on the phones at all? You never have a reason to use them since the same functions are built into soft keys on the screen. Ditch the 8 unneeded buttons and the stupid stick and give us bigger screens! Thanks, I feel better now. :-) TVK -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard, what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back? BTW, we can finally see the gphone. http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC - Original Message - From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Phones Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
That is indeed what I am waiting for, although I LOVE my Tilt which I have the Diamond WM6.1 OS on now. Very nice phone. TVK -Original Message- From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Get yourself a Touch HD. ;) - John Barsodi -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Gotta say I hate the slide-out design on the GPhone. Why leave the buttons at the base in place? For that matter can anyone who uses a touch screen phone explain to me why those dumb buttons even still exist on the phones at all? You never have a reason to use them since the same functions are built into soft keys on the screen. Ditch the 8 unneeded buttons and the stupid stick and give us bigger screens! Thanks, I feel better now. :-) TVK -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard, what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back? BTW, we can finally see the gphone. http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC - Original Message - From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Phones Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
I've bought the LG KS20 and the Touch Diamond this year, and used the Samsung Omnia for a little while as well. The HTC Diamond is definitely my preferred device from a form factor perspective, and with a current ROM works well performance wise. You can replace the Touch Flo 3D interface with SPB Mobile Shell (and the infinite number of skins out there for that) if you prefer a different look. HTC Diamond Pro if you want a slide-out keyboard is available as well. Cheers Ken From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 4:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Definitely go with the Diamond. I had the chance to use one for a bit at TechEd this year and it was so nice I actually considered switching to Sprint, in spite of their craptacular support group, due how nice a phone it is. One of the really nice features is the motion detection that senses when the phone is placed face-down on a surface and switches the phone to meeting mode. Real slick , and a nice form-factor. Tim From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from home biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Phones 1) The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to you) 2) I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6 3) Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. :) Thanks, Jeremy Phillips From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 AM ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Phones
If you get the Touch Diamond with the faceted back, then consider getting a case. Otherwise the tips of the peaks on the back get worn down as you leave the phone on desks etc. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 4:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Phones I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard, what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back? BTW, we can finally see the gphone. http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC - Original Message - From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: RE: Phones Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me. Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like the design/setup of HTC phones. I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never used one. Whatever you get, report back on how it works out. -Troy -Original Message- From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: Phones looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable choices 1) Instinct 2) HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1) 3) Samsung ACE ( windows moble 6) Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones ??? Good or bad feedback please . Thanks in advance Erik ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~