RE: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Barsodi.John
Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key bits. :)
That's a bummer about being locked into those choices.

I did use SSH on the pearl.  Had to create a lot of customized entries in the 
dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn't a big deal.
I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that's just me.

You're choices being limited, are all very different.  I would think about what 
type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that might help you 
make your decision.

Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G.  That too me, would be an important factor.

Thanks,
- JB

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada...
So my only options are the listed ones, sigh...
I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my company 
can't just *buy* me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don't even get 
me started :(

So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh'ed on it (I might be stuck with that one)? I 
might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately cool.

jlc

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that phone 
into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold.
Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option?  If you can 
swing it, get the Bold.

I've used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine.  There are 
free ones and paid for ones.  I liked a paid for version of Rove's SSH client - 
not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore.

Thanks,
- JB

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Phones

As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new phone 
from the list of possible ones handed to me.
I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a Samsung 
Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).

Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although I have 
used an iPhone  before, I haven't used an ssh client
on one, how shitty would that be?

Thanks!
jlc













~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
I don't like ssh on the iphone, but that's because I don't care to type a
whole lot on it.
I still want a BT keyboard!

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com wrote:

  Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key bits.
 J

 That’s a bummer about being locked into those choices.



 I did use SSH on the pearl.  Had to create a lot of customized entries in
 the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn’t a big deal.

 I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that’s just me.



 You’re choices being limited, are all very different.  I would think about
 what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that might
 help you make your decision.



 Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G.  That too me, would be an important
 factor.



 Thanks,

 - JB



 *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Phones



 Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada…

 So my only options are the listed ones, sigh…

 I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my company
 can’t just **buy** me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don’t
 even get me started L



 So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh’ed on it (I might be stuck with that
 one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately
 cool.



 jlc



 *From:* Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Phones



 I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that phone
 into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold.

 Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option?  If you can
 swing it, get the Bold.



 I’ve used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine.  There
 are free ones and paid for ones.  I liked a paid for version of Rove’s SSH
 client – not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore.



 Thanks,

 - JB



 *From:* Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Phones



 As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new
 phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me.
 I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a
 Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).



 Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although I
 have used an iPhone  before, I haven’t used an ssh client

 on one, how shitty would that be?



 Thanks!
 jlc



















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Gene Giannamore
+1 BT keyboard for all smart phones




Gene Giannamore
Abide International Inc.
Technical Support
561 1st Street West
Sonoma,Ca.95476
(707) 935-1577Office
(707) 935-9387Fax
(707) 766-4185Cell
gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com
www.abideinternational.com


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

I don't like ssh on the iphone, but that's because I don't care to type a whole 
lot on it.
I still want a BT keyboard!


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com wrote:


Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key 
bits. J

That's a bummer about being locked into those choices.

 

I did use SSH on the pearl.  Had to create a lot of customized entries 
in the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn't a big deal.

I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that's just 
me.

 

You're choices being limited, are all very different.  I would think 
about what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that 
might help you make your decision.

 

Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G.  That too me, would be an 
important factor.

 

Thanks,

- JB

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Phones 



 

Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada...

So my only options are the listed ones, sigh...

I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my 
company can't just *buy* me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don't 
even get me started L

 

So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh'ed on it (I might be stuck with that 
one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately 
cool.

 

jlc

 

From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM 

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Phones 



 

I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that 
phone into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold.

Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option?  If you 
can swing it, get the Bold.

 

I've used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine.  
There are free ones and paid for ones.  I liked a paid for version of Rove's 
SSH client - not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore.

 

Thanks,

- JB

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Phones

 

As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a 
new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me.
I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a 
Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).

 

Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although 
I have used an iPhone  before, I haven't used an ssh client

on one, how shitty would that be?

 

Thanks!
jlc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 




 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Ok, there's a KB for the Pearl. I think I will get that, Fido is all sold out 
of iPhones anyway, sigh...
Thanks for the insight guys!
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

+1 BT keyboard for all smart phones




Gene Giannamore
Abide International Inc.
Technical Support
561 1st Street West
Sonoma,Ca.95476
(707) 935-1577Office
(707) 935-9387Fax
(707) 766-4185Cell
gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com
www.abideinternational.com


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

I don't like ssh on the iphone, but that's because I don't care to type a whole 
lot on it.
I still want a BT keyboard!


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com wrote:


Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing key 
bits. J

That's a bummer about being locked into those choices.



I did use SSH on the pearl.  Had to create a lot of customized entries 
in the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn't a big deal.

I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that's just 
me.



You're choices being limited, are all very different.  I would think 
about what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS? And that 
might help you make your decision.



Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G.  That too me, would be an 
important factor.



Thanks,

- JB



From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Phones





Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada...

So my only options are the listed ones, sigh...

I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but my 
company can't just *buy* me a phone that allows me to work conveniently. Don't 
even get me started L



So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh'ed on it (I might be stuck with that 
one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least its moderately 
cool.



jlc



From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Phones





I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran that 
phone into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a Storm and Bold.

Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option?  If you 
can swing it, get the Bold.



I've used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are fine.  
There are free ones and paid for ones.  I liked a paid for version of Rove's 
SSH client - not sure if they sell just the SSH client by itself anymore.



Thanks,

- JB



From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Phones



As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a 
new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me.
I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a 
Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).



Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats? Although 
I have used an iPhone  before, I haven't used an ssh client

on one, how shitty would that be?



Thanks!
jlc


























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread S Conn.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L.
Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new
 phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me.
 I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a
 Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).



There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect
via the built-in Cisco VPN client.  I had them test it with the
vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked
perfectly.  Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are
happy with it.

I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN
to work.  On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile,
where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network.  So even if it did
work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be
able to use it.  A bit pointless.  I'd worry that the Pearl would be
in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access.

Seth

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Hrm, I sent email to a CCIE I know...
Hopefully he has some insight!
jlc

-Original Message-
From: S Conn. [mailto:sysadminli...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L.
Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new
 phone from the list of possible ones handed to me.
 I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a
 Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).



There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect
via the built-in Cisco VPN client.  I had them test it with the
vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked
perfectly.  Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are
happy with it.

I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN
to work.  On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile,
where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network.  So even if it did
work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be
able to use it.  A bit pointless.  I'd worry that the Pearl would be
in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access.

Seth

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Don Guyer
I've got an iPhone 3G for sale..

:)

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox  Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com


-Original Message-
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Ok, there's a KB for the Pearl. I think I will get that, Fido is all
sold out of iPhones anyway, sigh...
Thanks for the insight guys!
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Gene Giannamore [mailto:gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

+1 BT keyboard for all smart phones




Gene Giannamore
Abide International Inc.
Technical Support
561 1st Street West
Sonoma,Ca.95476
(707) 935-1577Office
(707) 935-9387Fax
(707) 766-4185Cell
gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com
www.abideinternational.com


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

I don't like ssh on the iphone, but that's because I don't care to type
a whole lot on it.
I still want a BT keyboard!


On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Barsodi.John john.bars...@igt.com
wrote:


Ugh, my bad, I have a bad habit of reading too fast and missing
key bits. J

That's a bummer about being locked into those choices.



I did use SSH on the pearl.  Had to create a lot of customized
entries in the dictionary for the cmds, but it wasn't a big deal.

I think a Full QWERTY is better for that type of App, but that's
just me.



You're choices being limited, are all very different.  I would
think about what type of connectivity you have to your office. BES, EAS?
And that might help you make your decision.



Both the Jack and the iPhone are 3G.  That too me, would be an
important factor.



Thanks,

- JB



From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:29 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Phones





Well, Fido sucks crap and offers like 5 phones? Canada...

So my only options are the listed ones, sigh...

I am expected to spend hours of my own fuggin time on a pc, but
my company can't just *buy* me a phone that allows me to work
conveniently. Don't even get me started L



So as lame as a Pearl is, you ssh'ed on it (I might be stuck
with that one)? I might go for the normal iPhone 3G if I can, at least
its moderately cool.



jlc



From: Barsodi.John [mailto:john.bars...@igt.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:23 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: Phones





I picked up the Pearl the day it dropped on Tmobile in 2006, ran
that phone into the ground until I upgraded this past November to a
Storm and Bold.

Seeing that you have the iPhone, why is the Bold not an option?
If you can swing it, get the Bold.



I've used a few ssh clients on the BB platform and they are
fine.  There are free ones and paid for ones.  I liked a paid for
version of Rove's SSH client - not sure if they sell just the SSH client
by itself anymore.



Thanks,

- JB



From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Phones



As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I
need a new phone from the list of possible ones handed to me.
I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have
are a Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).



Anyone got any experiences with these and can suggest caveats?
Although I have used an iPhone  before, I haven't used an ssh client

on one, how shitty would that be?



Thanks!
jlc


























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Link
Yes, it does.  And has since March '08.
http://blogs.cisco.com/news/comments/apple_iphone_enterprise_ready_with_cisco_vpn/

IT was probably a consequence of the settlement between Apple and Cisco
regarding the iPhone trademark.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote:

 iPhones have built-in Cisco VPN?   That just might give my manager the
 justification he needs to get us one.  That and the fact that the CEO is
 getting one and my manager is already letting them know we don't have one
 so therefore are not familiar enough with them to provide necessary
 support.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S Conn. sysadminli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L.
 Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
  As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new
  phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me.
  I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a
  Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).
 
 

 There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect
 via the built-in Cisco VPN client.  I had them test it with the
 vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked
 perfectly.  Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are
 happy with it.

 I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN
 to work.  On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile,
 where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network.  So even if it did
 work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be
 able to use it.  A bit pointless.  I'd worry that the Pearl would be
 in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access.

 Seth

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Don Guyer
I've had one since 1st Gen. Used to carry a company-issued BB and my
iPhone, but recently ditched the BB and carry just the iPhone now.

 

Our CEO bought a 3GS and is ga-ga for it. Soon afterwards I heard we are
most likely ditching the BES and BBs and going with iPhones across the
company.

 

How good/bad that will be, I don't know. But, in today's economy
(especially real estate) it doesn't surprise me.

 

Don Guyer

Systems Engineer - Information Services

Prudential, Fox  Roach/Trident Group

431 W. Lancaster Avenue

Devon, PA 19333

Direct: (610) 993-3299

Fax: (610) 650-5306

don.gu...@prufoxroach.com mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

 

iPhones have built-in Cisco VPN?   That just might give my manager the
justification he needs to get us one.  That and the fact that the CEO is
getting one and my manager is already letting them know we don't have
one so therefore are not familiar enough with them to provide necessary
support.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S Conn. sysadminli...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L.
Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
 As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a
new
 phone from the list of possible ones handed to me.
 I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a
 Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).



There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect
via the built-in Cisco VPN client.  I had them test it with the
vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked
perfectly.  Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are
happy with it.

I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN
to work.  On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile,
where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network.  So even if it did
work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be
able to use it.  A bit pointless.  I'd worry that the Pearl would be
in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access.

Seth


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Thanks for that link Jonathan, it has just recently been decided that we
will be ditching our Nortel VPN  other network stuff in favor of Cisco, so
that has suddenly become the buzz-word around here, so when I saw this
mentioned, I naturally am very interested.  It would probably make our
manager very happy to know that the on-call person could vpn from wherever
they are  work on stuff..

Cisco equipment just started arriving this week.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes, it does.  And has since March '08.

 http://blogs.cisco.com/news/comments/apple_iphone_enterprise_ready_with_cisco_vpn/

 IT was probably a consequence of the settlement between Apple and Cisco
 regarding the iPhone trademark.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Sherry Abercrombie saber...@gmail.comwrote:

 iPhones have built-in Cisco VPN?   That just might give my manager the
 justification he needs to get us one.  That and the fact that the CEO is
 getting one and my manager is already letting them know we don't have one
 so therefore are not familiar enough with them to provide necessary
 support.

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S Conn. sysadminli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L.
 Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
  As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a
 new
  phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me.
  I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a
  Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).
 
 

 There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect
 via the built-in Cisco VPN client.  I had them test it with the
 vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked
 perfectly.  Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are
 happy with it.

 I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN
 to work.  On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile,
 where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network.  So even if it did
 work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be
 able to use it.  A bit pointless.  I'd worry that the Pearl would be
 in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access.

 Seth

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke













-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Phones

2009-07-08 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
iPhones have built-in Cisco VPN?   That just might give my manager the
justification he needs to get us one.  That and the fact that the CEO is
getting one and my manager is already letting them know we don't have one
so therefore are not familiar enough with them to provide necessary
support.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:53 PM, S Conn. sysadminli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Joseph L.
 Casalejcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote:
  As a result of working with Fido and a super cheap company, I need a new
  phone “from the list of possible ones” handed to me.
  I need an ssh client and PIX vpn access, the only options I have are a
  Samsung Jack, Blackberry Pearl, or iPhone 3G (not the new one).
 
 

 There's a couple guys here in my office that use the iPhone to connect
 via the built-in Cisco VPN client.  I had them test it with the
 vCenter Mobile (VMWare management for mobile devices) and it worked
 perfectly.  Some other guys use an ssh client on their iPhones and are
 happy with it.

 I have a Bold myself, and while it is nice, I can't get the bloody VPN
 to work.  On top of that, the VPN profile is tied to a wifi profile,
 where the iPhone can do VPN over the 3G network.  So even if it did
 work, 90% of the time that I'm away from computer access I wouldn't be
 able to use it.  A bit pointless.  I'd worry that the Pearl would be
 in the same boat with the Bold on VPN access.

 Seth

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Troy Meyer
Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like 
the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have never 
used one.

Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable 
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones 
???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Glen Johnson
Nother option, Just put win 6.1 your you aging ppc6700.  Works pretty
good.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

 

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three
viable choices

 

1)  Instinct

2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)

3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

 

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

 

Thanks in advance

 

Erik

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Jeremy Phillips
1)  The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to 
you)

2)  I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6

3)  Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung 
ACE) can be a shocking experience. :)

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable 
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones 
???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik








~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Goldoff
Thanks but no ... already got wm6 on it, sluggish, locks up a bit too much,
and the phone has physical issues (center scroll stick switch is bad),
batteries are aging and no longer holding full charge

  _  

From: Glen Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones



Nother option, Just put win 6.1 your you aging ppc6700.  Works pretty good.

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

 

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable
choices

 

1)  Instinct

2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)

3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

 

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

 

Thanks in advance

 

Erik

 

 

 

 

 


 


 

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7:38 AM



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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Goldoff
Ok, having a brain fart moment, uh, EAS ? 

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like
the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have
never used one.

Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~ No virus
found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
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7:38 AM


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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Goldoff
Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from
home
 
biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature

  _  

From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones



1)  The instinct doesn’t sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters
to you)

2)  I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6

3)  Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as
Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. J

 

Thanks,

 

Jeremy Phillips

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

 

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable
choices

 

1)  Instinct

2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)

3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

 

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

 

Thanks in advance

 

Erik

 

 

 

 

 


 


 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008
7:38 AM



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Definitely go with the Diamond. I had the chance to use one for a bit at TechEd 
this year and it was so nice I actually considered switching to Sprint, in 
spite of their craptacular support group, due how nice a phone it is. One of 
the really nice features is the motion detection that senses when the phone is 
placed face-down on a surface and switches the phone to meeting mode. Real 
slick , and a nice form-factor.
Tim

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from home

biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature


From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

1)  The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to 
you)

2)  I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6

3)  Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung 
ACE) can be a shocking experience. :)

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable 
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones 
???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik













No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008 7:38 
AM






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
EAS = Exchange ActiveSync

On 9/23/08, Erik Goldoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from
 home

 biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature

  --
 *From:* Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* RE: Phones

  1)  The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that
 matters to you)

 2)  I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6

 3)  Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as
 Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. J



 Thanks,



 Jeremy Phillips



 *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* OT: Phones



 looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable
 choices



 1)  Instinct

 2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)

 3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)



 Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
 phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .



 Thanks in advance



 Erik
















  No virus found in this incoming message.
 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
 Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008
 7:38 AM








-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Erik Goldoff
ok, DUH, thanks ...  not running exchange out of my home office, so no issue
(for now)

  _  

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones


EAS = Exchange ActiveSync


On 9/23/08, Erik Goldoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from
home
 
biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature

  _  

From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones


1)  The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters
to you)

2)  I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6

3)  Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as
Samsung ACE) can be a shocking experience. J

 

Thanks,

 

Jeremy Phillips

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

 

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable
choices

 

1)  Instinct

2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)

3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

 

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

 

Thanks in advance

 

Erik

 

 

 

 

 


 



 



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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.7.0/1685 - Release Date: 9/23/2008
7:38 AM



 



 








-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. 
Arthur C. Clarke 

 


 

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7:38 AM



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread James Kerr
I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond 
now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard, 
what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back?


BTW, we can finally see the gphone.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC


- Original Message - 
From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: Phones


Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like 
the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have 
never used one.


Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable 
choices


1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer 
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .


Thanks in advance

Erik









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~ 



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
The slide out keyboard is on the Touch Pro. The Diamond I used had the faceted 
back on it.
Tim

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond
now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard,
what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back?

BTW, we can finally see the gphone.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC


- Original Message -
From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: Phones


Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like
the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have
never used one.

Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Barsodi.John
The Diamond Pro has the slide out QWERTY. Sprint and VZW will have it
mid/late Oct.

- John Barsodi
-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the
diamond 
now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out
keyboard, 
what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back?

BTW, we can finally see the gphone.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC


- Original Message - 
From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: Phones


Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really
like 
the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have

never used one.

Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three
viable 
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer 
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~ 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Gotta say I hate the slide-out design on the GPhone. Why leave the buttons at 
the base in place? For that matter can anyone who uses a touch screen phone 
explain to me why those dumb buttons even still exist on the phones at all? You 
never have a reason to use them since the same functions are built into soft 
keys on the screen. Ditch the 8 unneeded buttons and the stupid stick and give 
us bigger screens!
Thanks, I feel better now. :-)
TVK

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond
now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard,
what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back?

BTW, we can finally see the gphone.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC


- Original Message -
From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: Phones


Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like
the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have
never used one.

Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Barsodi.John
Get yourself a Touch HD.  ;)

- John Barsodi

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Gotta say I hate the slide-out design on the GPhone. Why leave the
buttons at the base in place? For that matter can anyone who uses a
touch screen phone explain to me why those dumb buttons even still exist
on the phones at all? You never have a reason to use them since the same
functions are built into soft keys on the screen. Ditch the 8 unneeded
buttons and the stupid stick and give us bigger screens!
Thanks, I feel better now. :-)
TVK

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the
diamond
now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out
keyboard,
what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back?

BTW, we can finally see the gphone.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC


- Original Message -
From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: Phones


Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really
like
the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have
never used one.

Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three
viable
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik









~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
That is indeed what I am waiting for, although I LOVE my Tilt which I have the 
Diamond WM6.1 OS on now. Very nice phone.
TVK

-Original Message-
From: Barsodi.John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Get yourself a Touch HD.  ;)

- John Barsodi

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Gotta say I hate the slide-out design on the GPhone. Why leave the
buttons at the base in place? For that matter can anyone who uses a
touch screen phone explain to me why those dumb buttons even still exist
on the phones at all? You never have a reason to use them since the same
functions are built into soft keys on the screen. Ditch the 8 unneeded
buttons and the stupid stick and give us bigger screens!
Thanks, I feel better now. :-)
TVK

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Phones

I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the
diamond
now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out
keyboard,
what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back?

BTW, we can finally see the gphone.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC


- Original Message -
From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: Phones


Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really
like
the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have
never used one.

Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three
viable
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik









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RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
I've bought the LG KS20 and the Touch Diamond this year, and used the Samsung 
Omnia for a little while as well.

The HTC Diamond is definitely my preferred device from a form factor 
perspective, and with a current ROM works well performance wise. You can 
replace the Touch Flo 3D interface with SPB Mobile Shell (and the infinite 
number of skins out there for that) if you prefer a different look.

HTC Diamond Pro if you want a slide-out keyboard is available as well.

Cheers
Ken

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 4:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Definitely go with the Diamond. I had the chance to use one for a bit at TechEd 
this year and it was so nice I actually considered switching to Sprint, in 
spite of their craptacular support group, due how nice a phone it is. One of 
the really nice features is the motion detection that senses when the phone is 
placed face-down on a surface and switches the phone to meeting mode. Real 
slick , and a nice form-factor.
Tim

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

Thanks, no exchange server currently ...doing independent consulting from home

biggest reason for me to consider ACE is 'phone as a modem' feature


From: Jeremy Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Phones

1)  The instinct doesn't sync to your Exchange calendar (if that matters to 
you)

2)  I would definitely recommend WM 6.1 over WM6

3)  Moving from a touch screen to non-touch screen device (such as Samsung 
ACE) can be a shocking experience. :)

Thanks,

Jeremy Phillips

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Phones

looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable 
choices

1)  Instinct
2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer phones 
???  Good or bad feedback please .

Thanks in advance

Erik













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RE: Phones

2008-09-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
If you get the Touch Diamond with the faceted back, then consider getting a 
case. Otherwise the tips of the peaks on the back get worn down as you leave 
the phone on desks etc.

Cheers
Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: James Kerr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 4:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Phones

 I was considering the mogul myself but will probably end up with the diamond
 now that's its out. I thought it was supposed to have a slide out keyboard,
 what happened to that feature? What about the faceted back?

 BTW, we can finally see the gphone.

 http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC


 - Original Message -
 From: Troy Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 1:49 PM
 Subject: RE: Phones


 Instinct = No EAS so that would be a deal breaker for me.

 Currently using a Sprint 6800 mogul and it works well, I tend to really like
 the design/setup of HTC phones.  I hear the diamond is the $#* but have
 never used one.

 Whatever you get, report back on how it works out.

 -Troy

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:46 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: Phones

 looking to upgrade my aging PPC6700 phone with Sprint , I see three viable
 choices

 1)  Instinct
 2)  HTC Touch Diamond(windows mobel 6.1)
 3)  Samsung ACE  ( windows moble 6)

 Any feedback from any of you that have used one or more of these newer
 phones ???  Good or bad feedback please .

 Thanks in advance

 Erik









 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~