RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Ziots, Edward
Then I agree there isn't much you are going to be able to do until the
vendor fixes there stuff.  I just don't see that they are setting SA
password, and then requiring Windows authentication accordingly. You can
map Windows Login to SQL permissions accordingly, to give them enough to
install with, without having to give or reset SA. Could just create an
empty database, and restore the db from backup ( seen that done quite a
few times)

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505



From: asbz...@gmail.com [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

 

So, they would have less problems with the system changing domain
membership than with the script being updated to install?

Wow. 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Jonathan Link  

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:19:11 -0500

To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

 

Honestly,

I'm not using SA to access databases, neither are my applications.
However, one of our vendors sets an SA password and then requires
Windows credentials and disables SQL users. I have no idea why the
vendor does it that way, I've called to complain and have been told that
it will be addressed in the next realease. In the interim,I don't want
to get into a war with a vendor that goes along the lines, of "you
modified our installer script, therfore you're not supported." They
haven't released an updated script, and while I do know what to change,
it's just not a risk I'm willing to take when I have a viable, if
annoying alternative.

This isn't aniche app, it's essentially our we can't do business without
this software app. 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Ziots, Edward 
wrote:

Honestly, 

If you are using SA to access databases, you should or the owner of said
application should be flogged mercilessly, along with being tarred and
feathered and dunked in a deep fat frier. That is one of the worse
security issues with SQL, the use of SQL authentication along with
giving SA rights.

Editing a script to install SQL is cake and including the SA password,
which should be different than any other SA password for any database
should be done as a best practice. 

That and ripping the local administrators out of the System
Administrators for SQL by default. 

Z

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:43 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

They may have an SA password they use and have an SOP to change it as
soon as an application is installed. In this case, the installer is
getting an error when it attempts to set the SA passwordto one that
isless complex than what your AD would like. There are three options to
resolve this.First is to relax the policy, which I agree with you, you
shouldn't do. The second is topull the machine from the domain, complete
the install, change the SA password, add back to the domain. The final
option is to find the installer script file for the application, edit it
so it changes the SA password to something complex enough. However, I
don't like to go mucking about in SQL installer scripts unless I have a
really good reason (this isn't one). It's much simpler to remove from AD
and add back in.

He made the request, because the error message says that's what he
needs. I wouldn't expect any less from a DBA. As a sysadmin you need to
flog him gently and give him the options your comfortable with.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
wrote:

They have an SA password that they use for all their databases. This is
something to do with calculating taxes, at least that's what the server
is, oh and I didn't mention, this server is in the test environment,
we've also got two additional servers for this purpose one in Dev and
one in production. 

Nope it's not gonna happen. We'll remove it from the domain (2003
domain) and he can just deal with it. 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Link 
wrote:

It's the SA password.

Is this thing on?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kennedy, Jim
 wrote:

That is the part I dont get. Based upon his/her request
the installer shouldnt even need to know the password. It should just
install with the logged in credentials. And if it chokes on a complex
password during install maybe because of a service it installs it will
choke afterwards too.

Unless he/she is

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread asbzone
So, they would have less problems with the system changing domain membership 
than with the script being updated to install?

Wow. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Link 
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:19:11 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

Honestly,
I'm not using SA to access databases, neither are my applications.  However,
one of our vendors sets an SA password and then requires Windows credentials
and disables SQL users.  I have no idea why the vendor does it that way,
I've called to complain and have been told that it will be addressed in the
next realease.  In the interim, I don't want to get into a war with a vendor
that goes along the lines, of "you modified our installer script, therfore
you're not supported."  They haven't released an updated script, and while I
do know what to change, it's just not a risk I'm willing to take when I have
a viable, if annoying alternative.

This isn't a niche app, it's essentially our we can't do business without
this software app.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

>  Honestly,
>
>
>
> If you are using SA to access databases, you should or the owner of said
> application should be flogged mercilessly, along with being tarred and
> feathered and dunked in a deep fat frier. That is one of the worse security
> issues with SQL, the use of SQL authentication along with giving SA rights.
>
>
>
> Editing a script to install SQL is cake and including the SA password,
> which should be different than any other SA password for any database should
> be done as a best practice.
>
>
>
> That and ripping the local administrators out of the System Administrators
> for SQL by default.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>  ----------
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:43 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>
>
>
> They may have an SA password they use and have an SOP to change it as soon
> as an application is installed.  In this case, the installer is getting an
> error when it attempts to set the SA password to one that is less complex
> than what your AD would like.  There are three options to resolve
> this.  First is to relax the policy, which I agree with you, you shouldn't
> do.  The second is to pull the machine from the domain, complete the
> install, change the SA password, add back to the domain.  The final option
> is to find the installer script file for the application, edit it so it
> changes the SA password to something complex enough.   However, I don't like
> to go mucking about in SQL installer scripts unless I have a really good
> reason (this isn't one).  It's much simpler to remove from AD and add back
> in.
>
>
>
> He made the request, because the error message says that's what he needs.
> I wouldn't expect any less from a DBA.  As a sysadmin you need to flog him
> gently and give him the options your comfortable with.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
> wrote:
>
> They have an SA password that they use for all their databases.  This is
> something to do with calculating taxes, at least that's what the server is,
> oh and I didn't mention, this server is in the test environment, we've also
> got two additional servers for this purpose one in Dev and one in
> production.
>
> Nope it's not gonna happen.  We'll remove it from the domain (2003 domain)
> and he can just deal with it.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
>  It's the SA password.
>
> Is this thing on?
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>
>   That is the part I don’t get. Based upon his/her request the installer
> shouldn’t even need to know the password. It should just install with the
> logged in credentials. And if it chokes on a complex password during install
> maybe because of a service it installs it will choke afterwards too.
>
>
>
> Unless he/she is asking for the password to remain ‘simple’ after the
> install…..Just because I am curious I would love to hear the rest of this
> story.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:32 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
&

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathan Link
Honestly,
I'm not using SA to access databases, neither are my applications.  However,
one of our vendors sets an SA password and then requires Windows credentials
and disables SQL users.  I have no idea why the vendor does it that way,
I've called to complain and have been told that it will be addressed in the
next realease.  In the interim, I don't want to get into a war with a vendor
that goes along the lines, of "you modified our installer script, therfore
you're not supported."  They haven't released an updated script, and while I
do know what to change, it's just not a risk I'm willing to take when I have
a viable, if annoying alternative.

This isn't a niche app, it's essentially our we can't do business without
this software app.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:

>  Honestly,
>
>
>
> If you are using SA to access databases, you should or the owner of said
> application should be flogged mercilessly, along with being tarred and
> feathered and dunked in a deep fat frier. That is one of the worse security
> issues with SQL, the use of SQL authentication along with giving SA rights.
>
>
>
> Editing a script to install SQL is cake and including the SA password,
> which should be different than any other SA password for any database should
> be done as a best practice.
>
>
>
> That and ripping the local administrators out of the System Administrators
> for SQL by default.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>  ----------
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:43 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>
>
>
> They may have an SA password they use and have an SOP to change it as soon
> as an application is installed.  In this case, the installer is getting an
> error when it attempts to set the SA password to one that is less complex
> than what your AD would like.  There are three options to resolve
> this.  First is to relax the policy, which I agree with you, you shouldn't
> do.  The second is to pull the machine from the domain, complete the
> install, change the SA password, add back to the domain.  The final option
> is to find the installer script file for the application, edit it so it
> changes the SA password to something complex enough.   However, I don't like
> to go mucking about in SQL installer scripts unless I have a really good
> reason (this isn't one).  It's much simpler to remove from AD and add back
> in.
>
>
>
> He made the request, because the error message says that's what he needs.
> I wouldn't expect any less from a DBA.  As a sysadmin you need to flog him
> gently and give him the options your comfortable with.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
> wrote:
>
> They have an SA password that they use for all their databases.  This is
> something to do with calculating taxes, at least that's what the server is,
> oh and I didn't mention, this server is in the test environment, we've also
> got two additional servers for this purpose one in Dev and one in
> production.
>
> Nope it's not gonna happen.  We'll remove it from the domain (2003 domain)
> and he can just deal with it.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
>  It's the SA password.
>
> Is this thing on?
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>
>   That is the part I don’t get. Based upon his/her request the installer
> shouldn’t even need to know the password. It should just install with the
> logged in credentials. And if it chokes on a complex password during install
> maybe because of a service it installs it will choke afterwards too.
>
>
>
> Unless he/she is asking for the password to remain ‘simple’ after the
> install…..Just because I am curious I would love to hear the rest of this
> story.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:32 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>
>
>
> What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009 "requires" a
> network password to not be complex to be installed?
>
>
> I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would have to rip him to
> shreds.yeah you can call me alice.
>
> On Thu,

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Don Ely
I like dr0...@p myself...

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
> whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
> those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
> complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
> laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
>> watched ALL the time to me.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>   On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie > > wrote:
>>
>>> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after
>>> I stop laughing hysterically:
>>>
>>> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
>>> for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then
>>> the policy can be reactivated.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>
>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Ziots, Edward
Honestly, 

 

If you are using SA to access databases, you should or the owner of said
application should be flogged mercilessly, along with being tarred and
feathered and dunked in a deep fat frier. That is one of the worse
security issues with SQL, the use of SQL authentication along with
giving SA rights.

 

Editing a script to install SQL is cake and including the SA password,
which should be different than any other SA password for any database
should be done as a best practice. 

 

That and ripping the local administrators out of the System
Administrators for SQL by default. 

 

Z

 

Edward Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

ezi...@lifespan.org

Phone:401-639-3505



From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

 

They may have an SA password they use and have an SOP to change it as
soon as an application is installed.  In this case, the installer is
getting an error when it attempts to set the SA password to one that is
less complex than what your AD would like.  There are three options to
resolve this.  First is to relax the policy, which I agree with you, you
shouldn't do.  The second is to pull the machine from the domain,
complete the install, change the SA password, add back to the domain.
The final option is to find the installer script file for the
application, edit it so it changes the SA password to something complex
enough.   However, I don't like to go mucking about in SQL installer
scripts unless I have a really good reason (this isn't one).  It's much
simpler to remove from AD and add back in.

 

He made the request, because the error message says that's what he
needs.  I wouldn't expect any less from a DBA.  As a sysadmin you need
to flog him gently and give him the options your comfortable with.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
wrote:

They have an SA password that they use for all their databases.  This is
something to do with calculating taxes, at least that's what the server
is, oh and I didn't mention, this server is in the test environment,
we've also got two additional servers for this purpose one in Dev and
one in production.  

Nope it's not gonna happen.  We'll remove it from the domain (2003
domain) and he can just deal with it. 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Link 
wrote:

It's the SA password.

Is this thing on?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kennedy, Jim
 wrote:

That is the part I don't get. Based upon his/her request
the installer shouldn't even need to know the password. It should just
install with the logged in credentials. And if it chokes on a complex
password during install maybe because of a service it installs it will
choke afterwards too.

 

Unless he/she is asking for the password to remain
'simple' after the install.Just because I am curious I would love to
hear the rest of this story.

 

 

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:32 AM 

        
    To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

 

What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009
"requires" a network password to not be complex to be installed?  


I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would
have to rip him to shreds.yeah you can call me alice.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Lum
 wrote:

A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is
one. *Any* properly formatted sentence is an adequately complex
"password". People see me enter my password and ask "how do you remember
all that?". A 25 character sentence is easier to remember than some
bizarre mix of random characters of half the length.

 

Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password - does SQL
not allow spaces in passwords? You security experts, is
"Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs" a more complex password than "There once was a man
from Nantucket."? The latter is a 35 character password that I'm sure
most of you could remember.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 

        Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request


Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathan Link
They may have an SA password they use and have an SOP to change it as soon
as an application is installed.  In this case, the installer is getting an
error when it attempts to set the SA password to one that is less complex
than what your AD would like.  There are three options to resolve
this.  First is to relax the policy, which I agree with you, you shouldn't
do.  The second is to pull the machine from the domain, complete the
install, change the SA password, add back to the domain.  The final option
is to find the installer script file for the application, edit it so it
changes the SA password to something complex enough.   However, I don't like
to go mucking about in SQL installer scripts unless I have a really good
reason (this isn't one).  It's much simpler to remove from AD and add back
in.

He made the request, because the error message says that's what he needs.  I
wouldn't expect any less from a DBA.  As a sysadmin you need to flog him
gently and give him the options your comfortable with.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> They have an SA password that they use for all their databases.  This is
> something to do with calculating taxes, at least that's what the server is,
> oh and I didn't mention, this server is in the test environment, we've also
> got two additional servers for this purpose one in Dev and one in
> production.
>
> Nope it's not gonna happen.  We'll remove it from the domain (2003 domain)
> and he can just deal with it.
>
>  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
>>  It's the SA password.
>> Is this thing on?
>>   On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
>> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>>
>>>   That is the part I don’t get. Based upon his/her request the installer
>>> shouldn’t even need to know the password. It should just install with the
>>> logged in credentials. And if it chokes on a complex password during install
>>> maybe because of a service it installs it will choke afterwards too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unless he/she is asking for the password to remain ‘simple’ after the
>>> install…..Just because I am curious I would love to hear the rest of this
>>> story.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:32 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009 "requires" a
>>> network password to not be complex to be installed?
>>>
>>> I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would have to rip him
>>> to shreds.yeah you can call me alice.
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>>>
>>> A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is one. **Any**
>>> properly formatted sentence is an adequately complex “password”. People see
>>> me enter my password and ask “how do you remember all that?”. A 25 character
>>> sentence is easier to remember than some bizarre mix of random characters of
>>> half the length.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password – does SQL not allow spaces
>>> in passwords? You security experts, is “Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs” a more complex
>>> password than “There once was a man from Nantucket.”? The latter is a 35
>>> character password that I’m sure most of you could remember.
>>>
>>> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
>>> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
>>> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>>>
>>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
>>> whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
>>> those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
>>> complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
>>> laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
&g

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
"I always thought that the law of natural selection would have gotten rid of
most of these kinds of individuals."
NOPE, they work cheap and the PHBs out there like a small payroll
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> I always thought that the law of natural selection would have gotten rid of
> most of these kinds of individuals.  Guess the gene pool is not as clean as
> one would have hoped.  I mean to stick you hand into a hornets nest by
> accident is one thing to stick it in to find out if they will sting you is
> another.
>
> Jon
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
They have an SA password that they use for all their databases.  This is
something to do with calculating taxes, at least that's what the server is,
oh and I didn't mention, this server is in the test environment, we've also
got two additional servers for this purpose one in Dev and one in
production.

Nope it's not gonna happen.  We'll remove it from the domain (2003 domain)
and he can just deal with it.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> It's the SA password.
> Is this thing on?
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>
>>  That is the part I don’t get. Based upon his/her request the installer
>> shouldn’t even need to know the password. It should just install with the
>> logged in credentials. And if it chokes on a complex password during install
>> maybe because of a service it installs it will choke afterwards too.
>>
>>
>>
>> Unless he/she is asking for the password to remain ‘simple’ after the
>> install…..Just because I am curious I would love to hear the rest of this
>> story.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:32 AM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>>
>>
>>
>> What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009 "requires" a
>> network password to not be complex to be installed?
>>
>> I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would have to rip him
>> to shreds.yeah you can call me alice.
>>
>>  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>>
>> A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is one. **Any**
>> properly formatted sentence is an adequately complex “password”. People see
>> me enter my password and ask “how do you remember all that?”. A 25 character
>> sentence is easier to remember than some bizarre mix of random characters of
>> half the length.
>>
>>
>>
>> Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password – does SQL not allow spaces in
>> passwords? You security experts, is “Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs” a more complex
>> password than “There once was a man from Nantucket.”? The latter is a 35
>> character password that I’m sure most of you could remember.
>>
>> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
>> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
>> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>>
>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>>
>>
>>
>> A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
>> whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
>> those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
>> complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
>> laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>>
>> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
>> watched ALL the time to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after
>> I stop laughing hysterically:
>>
>> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
>> for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then the
>> policy can be reactivated.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>
>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>
>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>
>> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>
>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>
>> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread David Lum
We have had to fulfill similar requests and the solution is as Johnathan Link 
says- disjoin, set PW, rejoin. 2008 Domains allow separate password policies, 
in which case you'd just apply the appropriate password GPO to that system, 
make the change, then flip it back.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009 "requires" a network 
password to not be complex to be installed?

I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would have to rip him to 
shreds.yeah you can call me alice.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is one. *Any* properly 
formatted sentence is an adequately complex "password". People see me enter my 
password and ask "how do you remember all that?". A 25 character sentence is 
easier to remember than some bizarre mix of random characters of half the 
length.

Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password - does SQL not allow spaces in 
passwords? You security experts, is "Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs" a more complex password 
than "There once was a man from Nantucket."? The latter is a 35 character 
password that I'm sure most of you could remember.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com<mailto:saber...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used whenever 
you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along those lines.  
Even todays date configured correctly meets the password complexity 
requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit laughing and am 
bordering on being pissed off.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be watched 
ALL the time to me.

Jon
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
mailto:saber...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after I 
stop laughing hysterically:

Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment for  
Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then the policy 
can be reactivated.


--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke












--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States











--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathan Link
It's the SA password.
Is this thing on?
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Kennedy, Jim
wrote:

>  That is the part I don’t get. Based upon his/her request the installer
> shouldn’t even need to know the password. It should just install with the
> logged in credentials. And if it chokes on a complex password during install
> maybe because of a service it installs it will choke afterwards too.
>
>
>
> Unless he/she is asking for the password to remain ‘simple’ after the
> install…..Just because I am curious I would love to hear the rest of this
> story.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:32 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>
>
>
> What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009 "requires" a
> network password to not be complex to be installed?
>
> I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would have to rip him to
> shreds.yeah you can call me alice.
>
>  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is one. **Any**
> properly formatted sentence is an adequately complex “password”. People see
> me enter my password and ask “how do you remember all that?”. A 25 character
> sentence is easier to remember than some bizarre mix of random characters of
> half the length.
>
>
>
> Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password – does SQL not allow spaces in
> passwords? You security experts, is “Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs” a more complex
> password than “There once was a man from Nantucket.”? The latter is a 35
> character password that I’m sure most of you could remember.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>
>
>
> A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
> whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
> those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
> complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
> laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
> watched ALL the time to me.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
> wrote:
>
> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after I
> stop laughing hysterically:
>
> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
> for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then the
> policy can be reactivated.
>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Kennedy, Jim
That is the part I don't get. Based upon his/her request the installer 
shouldn't even need to know the password. It should just install with the 
logged in credentials. And if it chokes on a complex password during install 
maybe because of a service it installs it will choke afterwards too.

Unless he/she is asking for the password to remain 'simple' after the 
install.Just because I am curious I would love to hear the rest of this 
story.



From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009 "requires" a network 
password to not be complex to be installed?

I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would have to rip him to 
shreds.yeah you can call me alice.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is one. *Any* properly 
formatted sentence is an adequately complex "password". People see me enter my 
password and ask "how do you remember all that?". A 25 character sentence is 
easier to remember than some bizarre mix of random characters of half the 
length.

Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password - does SQL not allow spaces in 
passwords? You security experts, is "Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs" a more complex password 
than "There once was a man from Nantucket."? The latter is a 35 character 
password that I'm sure most of you could remember.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com<mailto:saber...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used whenever 
you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along those lines.  
Even todays date configured correctly meets the password complexity 
requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit laughing and am 
bordering on being pissed off.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be watched 
ALL the time to me.

Jon
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
mailto:saber...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after I 
stop laughing hysterically:

Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment for  
Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then the policy 
can be reactivated.


--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke












--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States











--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread RichardMcClary
Only if you keep Eddy Haskel away!  (Now, let's see into how many 
directions this can diverge...)
--
richard

Daniel Rodriguez  wrote on 12/17/2009 07:59:21 AM:

> Oh! Can I be Wally?
> On Dec 17, 2009 8:53 AM, "Eldridge, Dave"  wrote:

> Now what would really piss me off if your pointy haired and clueless
> boss came over and made you change it.
> Can I call you Alice? J
>  
> From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:46 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request
>   A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is 
> used whenever you go to a MS t...
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should 
> be watched ALL the time to me
> -- Sherry Abercrombie "Any sufficiently advanced technology is 
> indistinguishable from magic."...
> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
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RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Bill Lambert
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From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

 

What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009 "requires" a
network password to not be complex to be installed?  

I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would have to rip him
to shreds.yeah you can call me alice.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Lum  wrote:

A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is one. *Any*
properly formatted sentence is an adequately complex "password". People
see me enter my password and ask "how do you remember all that?". A 25
character sentence is easier to remember than some bizarre mix of random
characters of half the length.

 

Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password - does SQL not allow spaces
in passwords? You security experts, is "Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs" a more
complex password than "There once was a man from Nantucket."? The latter
is a 35 character password that I'm sure most of you could remember.

David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER 
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

 

A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.  

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:

Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
watched ALL the time to me.

 

Jon

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
wrote:

Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until
after I stop laughing hysterically:

Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then
the policy can be reactivated.



-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 

 




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States 

 

 

 

 




-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
What I want to know is what kind of application in 2009 "requires" a network
password to not be complex to be installed?

I'm just glad he's not in the office yet because I would have to rip him to
shreds.yeah you can call me alice.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>  A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is one. **Any**
> properly formatted sentence is an adequately complex “password”. People see
> me enter my password and ask “how do you remember all that?”. A 25 character
> sentence is easier to remember than some bizarre mix of random characters of
> half the length.
>
>
>
> Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password – does SQL not allow spaces in
> passwords? You security experts, is “Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs” a more complex
> password than “There once was a man from Nantucket.”? The latter is a 35
> character password that I’m sure most of you could remember.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request
>
>
>
> A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
> whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
> those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
> complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
> laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
> watched ALL the time to me.
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
> wrote:
>
> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after I
> stop laughing hysterically:
>
> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
> for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then the
> policy can be reactivated.
>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Jonathan Link
I'll respond to this one seriously, since I've had a few applications which
install SQL instances fail like this.  The installer program may not
function correctly because it sets an SA password that isn't complex enough
for your environment, therefore the application cannot be installed.  It may
be that the SA account is never used again after the installer is done, in
which case set the SA account to be complex after the application has been
installed.

Optionally, the machine in question can be removed from the AD, application
installed and rejoined to the AD.  In the same case the SA password should
be changed to match complexity requirements.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after I
> stop laughing hysterically:
>
> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment for
> Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then the
> policy can be reactivated.
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread David Lum
A complex password is so easy to create this sentence is one. *Any* properly 
formatted sentence is an adequately complex "password". People see me enter my 
password and ask "how do you remember all that?". A 25 character sentence is 
easier to remember than some bizarre mix of random characters of half the 
length.

Even 17 December 2009 is a complex password - does SQL not allow spaces in 
passwords? You security experts, is "Sr2FDeT2M0hProYMs" a more complex password 
than "There once was a man from Nantucket."? The latter is a 35 character 
password that I'm sure most of you could remember.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used whenever 
you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along those lines.  
Even todays date configured correctly meets the password complexity 
requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit laughing and am 
bordering on being pissed off.
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris 
mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be watched 
ALL the time to me.

Jon
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
mailto:saber...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after I 
stop laughing hysterically:

Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment for  
Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then the policy 
can be reactivated.


--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke












--
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Jon Harris
I always thought that the law of natural selection would have gotten rid of
most of these kinds of individuals.  Guess the gene pool is not as clean as
one would have hoped.  I mean to stick you hand into a hornets nest by
accident is one thing to stick it in to find out if they will sting you is
another.

Jon

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
> whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
> those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
> complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
> laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
>> watched ALL the time to me.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>   On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie > > wrote:
>>
>>> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after
>>> I stop laughing hysterically:
>>>
>>> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
>>> for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then
>>> the policy can be reactivated.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>
>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Charlie Kaiser
I wanna be Dogbert. He's my hero...

***
Charlie Kaiser
charl...@golden-eagle.org
Kingman, AZ
***  

> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Rodriguez [mailto:drod...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:59 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: RE: Thursday Funny Request
> 
> Oh! Can I be Wally?
> 
>   On Dec 17, 2009 8:53 AM, "Eldridge, Dave" 
>  wrote:
>   
>   
> 
>   Now what would really piss me off if your pointy haired 
> and clueless boss came over and made you change it.
> 
>   Can I call you Alice? J
> 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
Oh! Can I be Wally?

On Dec 17, 2009 8:53 AM, "Eldridge, Dave"  wrote:

 Now what would really piss me off if your pointy haired and clueless boss
came over and made you change it.

Can I call you Alice? J



*From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:46 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Thursday Funny Request

  A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
whenever you go to a MS t...

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:

Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
watched ALL the time to me

-- Sherry Abercrombie "Any sufficiently advanced technology is
indistinguishable from magic."...

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RE: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Eldridge, Dave
Now what would really piss me off if your pointy haired and clueless
boss came over and made you change it.

Can I call you Alice? J

 

From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 6:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny Request

 

A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.  

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:

Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
watched ALL the time to me.

 

Jon

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie 
wrote:

Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until
after I stop laughing hysterically:

Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then
the policy can be reactivated.



-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." 
Arthur C. Clarke

 

 

 

 

 




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Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Daniel Rodriguez
Sherri,

When you do respond ask them if they need the SS numbers of everyone in the
organization and their banking information.

I would be peev'd,  too!

On Dec 17, 2009 8:46 AM, "Sherry Abercrombie"  wrote:

A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along those
lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password complexity
requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit laughing and am
bordering on being pissed off.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote: > >
Sounds to me like you ...
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Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Jon Harris
That was understood I am just wondering how this person got to be a DBA or
at the least has been allowed to remain a DBA.

Jon

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
> whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along
> those lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password
> complexity requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit
> laughing and am bordering on being pissed off.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:
>
>> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
>> watched ALL the time to me.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>   On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie > > wrote:
>>
>>> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after
>>> I stop laughing hysterically:
>>>
>>> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
>>> for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then
>>> the policy can be reactivated.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>>
>>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
> Sent from Keller, TX, United States
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
A complex password is S easy to create, just look at what is used
whenever you go to a MS training class:  p...@ssw0rd, or something along those
lines.  Even todays date configured correctly meets the password complexity
requiremends17December2009.  Sheesh...now I've quit laughing and am
bordering on being pissed off.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
> watched ALL the time to me.
>
> Jon
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:
>
>> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after
>> I stop laughing hysterically:
>>
>> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment
>> for  Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then
>> the policy can be reactivated.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sherry Abercrombie
>>
>> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
>> Arthur C. Clarke
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Sherry Abercrombie

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke
Sent from Keller, TX, United States

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Re: Thursday Funny Request

2009-12-17 Thread Jon Harris
Sounds to me like you have some people working as DBA's that should be
watched ALL the time to me.

Jon

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Sherry Abercrombie wrote:

> Got this request from on of our DBA's, I'm waiting to respond until after I
> stop laughing hysterically:
>
> Need domain policy temporarly changed on dbaserver to remove requirment for
> Windows complex password, so application can be installed and then the
> policy can be reactivated.
>
>
> --
> Sherry Abercrombie
>
> "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> Arthur C. Clarke
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Thursday Funny

2008-03-31 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Godwin's, dangit...

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh ROFL!  I totally had forgotten about Gogwin's Law!  Its been so
> long since I've seen it referenced last.  Good catch!
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering when this discussion would intersect with Godwin's Law ...
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
>
>
> --
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>



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Re: Thursday Funny

2008-03-31 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Oh ROFL!  I totally had forgotten about Gogwin's Law!  Its been so
long since I've seen it referenced last.  Good catch!

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Angus Scott-Fleming
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was wondering when this discussion would intersect with Godwin's Law ...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law


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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-31 Thread Tom Strader
Angus,
 
Stu has politely ask us to not comment any further from this particular
thread.
I'm sure you'll see his request in an email somewhere.
 
Thanks,
Tom
 



From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thursday Funny


> From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:30 PM 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Subject: OT: Thursday Funny 
> 
> Hail HITLER! 
> 
> This is for you Mr. Espinola... have a good day and enjoy what little
is left of your 
> miserable life. 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k 
> 
> Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has

> crawled up his A$$ and won't come out. 


I was wondering when this discussion would intersect with Godwin's Law
... 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law 






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GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona 
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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-31 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming






> From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:30 PM




> To: NT System Admin Issues




> Subject: OT: Thursday Funny




> 




> Hail HITLER!




> 




> This is for you Mr. Espinola… have a good day and enjoy what little is left of your 




> miserable life.




> 




> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k




> 




> Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has 




> crawled up his A$$ and won’t come out.











I was wondering when this discussion would intersect with Godwin's Law ...











http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

























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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Andy Shook
I'm in ONLY if we rumble like this (yes, this is safe for work)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqxo1SKB0z8 

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

  -Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny

Are we officially calling no rings or weapons?  ;-P

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Steve Ens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm in.  I've already got my cut off jean jacket on.  Now to find that
> bandanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Great!  Now that we have begun to choose sides and declare them, why
> > don't we meet up in the parking lot after school so we can have us
an
> > old fashioned rumble?
> >

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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM
Who will be "the Outsiders"? 

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 4:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Thursday Funny

Are we officially calling no rings or weapons?  ;-P

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Steve Ens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm in.  I've already got my cut off jean jacket on.  Now to find that
> bandanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Great!  Now that we have begun to choose sides and declare them, why
> > don't we meet up in the parking lot after school so we can have us
an
> > old fashioned rumble?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Cliff Partlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ditto :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "From The Sunny Side Of The Street !"
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Are we officially calling no rings or weapons?  ;-P

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Steve Ens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm in.  I've already got my cut off jean jacket on.  Now to find that
> bandanna.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Great!  Now that we have begun to choose sides and declare them, why
> > don't we meet up in the parking lot after school so we can have us an
> > old fashioned rumble?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Cliff Partlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ditto :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "From The Sunny Side Of The Street !"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~
> > ~   ~
> >
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Re: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Ens
I'm in.  I've already got my cut off jean jacket on.  Now to find that
bandanna.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Great!  Now that we have begun to choose sides and declare them, why
> don't we meet up in the parking lot after school so we can have us an
> old fashioned rumble?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Cliff Partlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Ditto :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "From The Sunny Side Of The Street !"
>
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Re: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Great!  Now that we have begun to choose sides and declare them, why
don't we meet up in the parking lot after school so we can have us an
old fashioned rumble?



On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Cliff Partlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ditto :-)
>
>
>
>
> "From The Sunny Side Of The Street !"

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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Cliff Partlow
Sorry Stu. Just saw your post

 

"From The Sunny Side Of The Street !"

 

Cliff P.

 

A+ Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer

 

 

 

From: Cliff Partlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thursday Funny

 

Ditto :-)

 

"From The Sunny Side Of The Street !"

 

Cliff P.

 

A+ Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer

 

 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thursday Funny

 

Larry,

When using the word "all" please try to use it accurately. In this instance
you have not used it in such a way.

Thanks,

Tim

 

From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thursday Funny

 

Stu:

 

Can you please unsubsribe Tom?...We've all had just about enough of his
pre-adolescent emissions.

 

 

 

  _  

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Thursday Funny

Hail HITLER!

 

This is for you Mr. Espinola. have a good day and enjoy what little is left
of your miserable life.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k

 

Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has
crawled up his A$$ and won't come out.

 

  _  

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender

 

 

 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Cliff Partlow
Ditto :-)

 

"From The Sunny Side Of The Street !"

 

Cliff P.

 

A+ Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer

 

 

 

From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thursday Funny

 

Larry,

When using the word "all" please try to use it accurately. In this instance
you have not used it in such a way.

Thanks,

Tim

 

From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thursday Funny

 

Stu:

 

Can you please unsubsribe Tom?...We've all had just about enough of his
pre-adolescent emissions.

 

 

 

  _  

From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Thursday Funny

Hail HITLER!

 

This is for you Mr. Espinola. have a good day and enjoy what little is left
of your miserable life.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k

 

Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has
crawled up his A$$ and won't come out.

 

  _  

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender

 

 

 
 
 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Steve Ens
That was hilarious...saw it in London.  Killed myself laughing.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:16 PM, WL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hehe... reminds me of Springtime for Hitler from the Producers.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:46 PM, NTSysAdmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Actually, you have offended many more people than Mr espinola.
> >
> >
> >
> > S
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:30 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: OT: Thursday Funny
> >
> >
> >
> > Hail HITLER!
> >
> >
> >
> > This is for you Mr. Espinola… have a good day and enjoy what little is
> left
> > of your miserable life.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has
> > crawled up his A$$ and won't come out.
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
> >
> >
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[LIST ADMIN MESSAGE] RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Stu Sjouwerman
All,
 
This thread is now closed.
 
Please do not answer any further postings.
 
Thanks.
 
Warm regards,

Stu



From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Thursday Funny



Hail HITLER!

 

This is for you Mr. Espinola... have a good day and enjoy what little is
left of your miserable life.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k

 

Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has
crawled up his A$$ and won't come out.

 



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender

 






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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Tom Strader
I'll refer my response and defense to Stu in a separate email and let
him be the judge,
but if I get removed then those that responded in kind should be also.
 
My two cents...
 
I didn't start this. Espinola did by responding to a harmless joke I
submitted.
 
Again, my apologies to those of you that feel Mr. Espinola and others
responding in his defense are "in the wrong" as much as I am.
 



From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thursday Funny


Stu:
 
Can you please unsubsribe Tom?...We've all had just about enough of his
pre-adolescent emissions.
 
 

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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Larry,
When using the word "all" please try to use it accurately. In this instance you 
have not used it in such a way.
Thanks,
Tim

From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Thursday Funny

Stu:

Can you please unsubsribe Tom?...We've all had just about enough of his 
pre-adolescent emissions.




From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Thursday Funny
Hail HITLER!

This is for you Mr. Espinola... have a good day and enjoy what little is left 
of your miserable life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k

Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has crawled 
up his A$$ and won't come out.


From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender













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Re: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
lol.  Surely I occasionally annoy in good conscious, but I never mean to offend.

"People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we
get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older
people and the kids?...It's just not right. It's not right. It's not,
it's not going to change anything. We'll, we'll get our
justicePlease, we can get along here. We all can get along. I
mean, we're all stuck here for a while. Let's try to work it out.
Let's try to beat it. Let's try to beat it. Let's try to work it out."
 - Rodney King

Please think of the kids and all the kittens that Domo-kun is hunting
down because of his displeasure with this thread...




On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:46 PM, NTSysAdmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Actually, you have offended many more people than Mr espinola.
>
>
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> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-28 Thread Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM
Stu:
 
Can you please unsubsribe Tom?...We've all had just about enough of his
pre-adolescent emissions.
 
 



From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 5:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Thursday Funny



Hail HITLER!

 

This is for you Mr. Espinola... have a good day and enjoy what little is
left of your miserable life.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k

 

Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has
crawled up his A$$ and won't come out.

 



From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender

 






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Re: Thursday Funny

2008-03-27 Thread WL
hehe... reminds me of Springtime for Hitler from the Producers.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 2:46 PM, NTSysAdmin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:30 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: Thursday Funny
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> Hail HITLER!
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> This is for you Mr. Espinola… have a good day and enjoy what little is left
> of your miserable life.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k
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> Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has
> crawled up his A$$ and won't come out.
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> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender
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RE: Thursday Funny

2008-03-27 Thread NTSysAdmin
Actually, you have offended many more people than Mr espinola.

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From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: Thursday Funny

Hail HITLER!

This is for you Mr. Espinola... have a good day and enjoy what little is left 
of your miserable life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k

Sorry Stu, this guy needs to go get an enema badly cause something has crawled 
up his A$$ and won't come out.


From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:59 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Thursday Funny: Computer gender






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