RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
Michael, Alas no. We did the import using VMX2vhd on the internet. We don't run SCVMM here. Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
Really? We did a basic test on one of our servers, the free ESX against Hyper-V and the general consensus was that the Hyper-V one is quicker. Besides we love all things MS here. Saying that I haven't run any definitive tests against the two, but the MS offering certainly did feel quicker when the chaps here sat in front of the VMs. Olly -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: 08 December 2008 13:35 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types You should have stuck with VMWareESXi (Also Free), is far superior to HyperV Beta...And I'm a Microsoft guy...HyperV won't catch up for a good few years yet. If you think HyperV is fast, ESXi will blow you away. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
-Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types You should have stuck with VMWareESXi (Also Free), is far superior to HyperV Beta...And I'm a Microsoft guy...HyperV won't catch up for a good few years yet. If you think HyperV is fast, ESXi will blow you away. HyperV has been out of beta for some time now. Unless your HyperV Beta remark is a snide sarcastic comment on anything less than HyperV Version 3 being a beta release. Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
So...download the 120 day eval and use it to do your imports. And, in regards to performance: my tests indicate them being pretty much neck-and-neck. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Michael, Alas no. We did the import using VMX2vhd on the internet. We don't run SCVMM here. Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
Is there a way to do it at the OS level without using something quite aslarge as SCVMM? I'm keen to not have to learn anything new today in case my head explodes. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types So...download the 120 day eval and use it to do your imports. And, in regards to performance: my tests indicate them being pretty much neck-and-neck. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Michael, Alas no. We did the import using VMX2vhd on the internet. We don't run SCVMM here. Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
Strange I tried both. On a pair of Dell 1950's with 16gig of memory sharing an Openfiler San, (Powervault sc220s). At most I had 6 W2K3 VMs with 2 GB memory running on the HyperV. With ESXi I ran out of space on the LUN after 13 W2K3 VM's. Performance was fine on both. The benefit of being able to upgrade to get VMotion was also a mitigating fact. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Really? We did a basic test on one of our servers, the free ESX against Hyper-V and the general consensus was that the Hyper-V one is quicker. Besides we love all things MS here. Saying that I haven't run any definitive tests against the two, but the MS offering certainly did feel quicker when the chaps here sat in front of the VMs. Olly -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: 08 December 2008 13:35 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types You should have stuck with VMWareESXi (Also Free), is far superior to HyperV Beta...And I'm a Microsoft guy...HyperV won't catch up for a good few years yet. If you think HyperV is fast, ESXi will blow you away. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
In my eyes it is still a BETA product seeing as it still has a hell of a long way to go before they get it to where it needs to be. S...:) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types You should have stuck with VMWareESXi (Also Free), is far superior to HyperV Beta...And I'm a Microsoft guy...HyperV won't catch up for a good few years yet. If you think HyperV is fast, ESXi will blow you away. HyperV has been out of beta for some time now. Unless your HyperV Beta remark is a snide sarcastic comment on anything less than HyperV Version 3 being a beta release. Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
Hyper-V does not support memory overcommit. Nor does VMware recommend using that feature in a production environment. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Strange I tried both. On a pair of Dell 1950's with 16gig of memory sharing an Openfiler San, (Powervault sc220s). At most I had 6 W2K3 VMs with 2 GB memory running on the HyperV. With ESXi I ran out of space on the LUN after 13 W2K3 VM's. Performance was fine on both. The benefit of being able to upgrade to get VMotion was also a mitigating fact. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Really? We did a basic test on one of our servers, the free ESX against Hyper-V and the general consensus was that the Hyper-V one is quicker. Besides we love all things MS here. Saying that I haven't run any definitive tests against the two, but the MS offering certainly did feel quicker when the chaps here sat in front of the VMs. Olly -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: 08 December 2008 13:35 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types You should have stuck with VMWareESXi (Also Free), is far superior to HyperV Beta...And I'm a Microsoft guy...HyperV won't catch up for a good few years yet. If you think HyperV is fast, ESXi will blow you away. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
There is no trivial way to update a HAL that I know of. I just use the products that MSFT has made available to me... I'm not a virtualization MVP, sorry. :-( Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Is there a way to do it at the OS level without using something quite aslarge as SCVMM? I'm keen to not have to learn anything new today in case my head explodes. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types So...download the 120 day eval and use it to do your imports. And, in regards to performance: my tests indicate them being pretty much neck-and-neck. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Michael, Alas no. We did the import using VMX2vhd on the internet. We don't run SCVMM here. Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
(it is a very handy feature to call on though when you are in a push) -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:50 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hyper-V does not support memory overcommit. Nor does VMware recommend using that feature in a production environment. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Strange I tried both. On a pair of Dell 1950's with 16gig of memory sharing an Openfiler San, (Powervault sc220s). At most I had 6 W2K3 VMs with 2 GB memory running on the HyperV. With ESXi I ran out of space on the LUN after 13 W2K3 VM's. Performance was fine on both. The benefit of being able to upgrade to get VMotion was also a mitigating fact. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Really? We did a basic test on one of our servers, the free ESX against Hyper-V and the general consensus was that the Hyper-V one is quicker. Besides we love all things MS here. Saying that I haven't run any definitive tests against the two, but the MS offering certainly did feel quicker when the chaps here sat in front of the VMs. Olly -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: 08 December 2008 13:35 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types You should have stuck with VMWareESXi (Also Free), is far superior to HyperV Beta...And I'm a Microsoft guy...HyperV won't catch up for a good few years yet. If you think HyperV is fast, ESXi will blow you away. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
Didn't some magazine do an extensive review that we discussed here a while back? If memory serves, their benchmarks showed the two products fairly neck and neck, with VMWare taking the performance lead--but by a slim margin, not a landslide... -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:49 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types In my eyes it is still a BETA product seeing as it still has a hell of a long way to go before they get it to where it needs to be. S...:) -Original Message- From: Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types You should have stuck with VMWareESXi (Also Free), is far superior to HyperV Beta...And I'm a Microsoft guy...HyperV won't catch up for a good few years yet. If you think HyperV is fast, ESXi will blow you away. HyperV has been out of beta for some time now. Unless your HyperV Beta remark is a snide sarcastic comment on anything less than HyperV Version 3 being a beta release. Webster ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
I've converted VMWare Server images to Hyper-V using that tool fine (remember to uninstall VMWare Tools first). The only problem I had was the SCSI hard drive adapter. I ended up doing an OS repair, but a colleague pointed out that you can just add an IDE drive to your VMWare Server VM prior to shutting it down and doing the conversion. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2008 12:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Is there a way to do it at the OS level without using something quite aslarge as SCVMM? I'm keen to not have to learn anything new today in case my head explodes. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types So...download the 120 day eval and use it to do your imports. And, in regards to performance: my tests indicate them being pretty much neck-and-neck. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Michael, Alas no. We did the import using VMX2vhd on the internet. We don't run SCVMM here. Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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We've done fairly extensive testing of Exchange, SQL Server and MS CRM on Hyper-V. This is with Netapp SANs and Sun's X4600 (8 dual core CPUs, 96 GB of RAM), X6250 and X6220 boxes. For Exchange, we simulated 10k, 20k and 50k mailbox configurations (with up to 1TB of storage) using Jetstress and IOMeter. For CRM we tested a 3 tier configuration with 6000 users etc. This took about 3-4 months of testing to produce. I believe we have a whitepaper coming out soon (if not already) - I'll have a look for it when I get back from holidays. The difference between native hardware and Hyper-V can be only 10-20% or so. ESX isn't going to give you noticeably better raw performance. Where ESX has the advantage is the extra functionality (like VMotion). Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2008 12:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Strange I tried both. On a pair of Dell 1950's with 16gig of memory sharing an Openfiler San, (Powervault sc220s). At most I had 6 W2K3 VMs with 2 GB memory running on the HyperV. With ESXi I ran out of space on the LUN after 13 W2K3 VM's. Performance was fine on both. The benefit of being able to upgrade to get VMotion was also a mitigating fact. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Really? We did a basic test on one of our servers, the free ESX against Hyper- V and the general consensus was that the Hyper-V one is quicker. Besides we love all things MS here. Saying that I haven't run any definitive tests against the two, but the MS offering certainly did feel quicker when the chaps here sat in front of the VMs. Olly -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: 08 December 2008 13:35 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types You should have stuck with VMWareESXi (Also Free), is far superior to HyperV Beta...And I'm a Microsoft guy...HyperV won't catch up for a good few years yet. If you think HyperV is fast, ESXi will blow you away. S -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
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http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309283/ It actually is trivial, though unsupported. I have done this a few times w/o issue. jlc -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types There is no trivial way to update a HAL that I know of. I just use the products that MSFT has made available to me... I'm not a virtualization MVP, sorry. :-( Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Is there a way to do it at the OS level without using something quite aslarge as SCVMM? I'm keen to not have to learn anything new today in case my head explodes. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types So...download the 120 day eval and use it to do your imports. And, in regards to performance: my tests indicate them being pretty much neck-and-neck. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Michael, Alas no. We did the import using VMX2vhd on the internet. We don't run SCVMM here. Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
Yeah, saw that article thanks, but in it it says If an incorrect HAL is forced during Setup or by using a System Preparation Image (Sysprep), you can see the correct list of HALs only if you perform a new installation of Windows XP or Windows Server 2003. You cannot change to a HAL other than what is listed in Device Manager. Device Manager does not permit the change from a Non-ACPI HAL to an ACPI HAL. You must use a new install of Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 for this kind of change. Change from an ACPI HAL to a Non-ACPI HAL only for troubleshooting purposes. And the instructions are for moving from just about any HAL *other* than Standard PC (non-acpi). :( -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 16:52 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309283/ It actually is trivial, though unsupported. I have done this a few times w/o issue. jlc -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types There is no trivial way to update a HAL that I know of. I just use the products that MSFT has made available to me... I'm not a virtualization MVP, sorry. :-( Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Is there a way to do it at the OS level without using something quite aslarge as SCVMM? I'm keen to not have to learn anything new today in case my head explodes. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types So...download the 120 day eval and use it to do your imports. And, in regards to performance: my tests indicate them being pretty much neck-and-neck. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Michael, Alas no. We did the import using VMX2vhd on the internet. We don't run SCVMM here. Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
Re: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types
The HAL is part of the Virtual Server tools loaded when you first bring up the server and add the tools. I have had 2 of my servers bomb when moving them recently. Since it was easier to put a new VM built on the 2008 Hyper-V machine than do the trouble shooting to fix it I just opt'ed for the change out of OS drive. Jon On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Oliver Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, saw that article thanks, but in it it says If an incorrect HAL is forced during Setup or by using a System Preparation Image (Sysprep), you can see the correct list of HALs only if you perform a new installation of Windows XP or Windows Server 2003. You cannot change to a HAL other than what is listed in Device Manager. Device Manager does not permit the change from a Non-ACPI HAL to an ACPI HAL. You must use a new install of Windows XP or Windows Server 2003 for this kind of change. Change from an ACPI HAL to a Non-ACPI HAL only for troubleshooting purposes. And the instructions are for moving from just about any HAL *other* than Standard PC (non-acpi). :( -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 16:52 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309283/ It actually is trivial, though unsupported. I have done this a few times w/o issue. jlc -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 6:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types There is no trivial way to update a HAL that I know of. I just use the products that MSFT has made available to me... I'm not a virtualization MVP, sorry. :-( Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michaelhttp://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Is there a way to do it at the OS level without using something quite aslarge as SCVMM? I'm keen to not have to learn anything new today in case my head explodes. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:42 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types So...download the 120 day eval and use it to do your imports. And, in regards to performance: my tests indicate them being pretty much neck-and-neck. Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michaelhttp://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Michael, Alas no. We did the import using VMX2vhd on the internet. We don't run SCVMM here. Olly -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 December 2008 13:32 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Are you using SCVMMs V2V and/or import capabilities? Regards, Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michaelhttp://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php -Original Message- From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VMWARE to Hyper-V and HAL types Hi chaps, I'm looking at moving our VMWare based VMs to our new Hyper-V based servers. New VMs are working a treat, and certainly Hyper-V seems far more responsive than our VMWare based setup. However existing VMWare based VMs are proving an issue. While the VM's have been imported to Hyper-V without any problems it would appear that the HAL of the VMWare VMs have all been set to 'Standard PC' at some point during the installation of the guest OS (all Windows 2003). In order to install the Hyper-V tools we need to be running a ACPI based HAL. My question is this; is there a way in Windows 2003 to move from a Standard PC based HAL to an ACPI based HAL ? I know that MS don't support it (at least from what i can see on the web), but is there a way to hack a solution to it ? The only option we have at the moment is to re-install the guest OS's but that would mean a lot of work and possibly re-config of the apps running on them. Olly ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful
