RE: Windows 7 Imaging
You said below to not install WAIK 3.0 if I am using MDT. What about installing the WAIK supplement for Windows 7 SP1? It seems at the very least I should extract Win PE 3.1 from it for compatibility with Advanced Format (4K) Drives (or patch PE 3.0 with 982018)? Thanks for your help. Curt From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f7 6-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. J WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
If you have a newer level of WAIK (which the WAIK supplement is) that's fine. Originally, we just had WINPE 3.1 without anything else. However - that still isn't safe to use with SCCM 2007 R3. But with MDT, I understand it's OK (I haven't tested it personally). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging You said below to not install WAIK 3.0 if I am using MDT. What about installing the WAIK supplement for Windows 7 SP1? It seems at the very least I should extract Win PE 3.1 from it for compatibility with Advanced Format (4K) Drives (or patch PE 3.0 with 982018)? Thanks for your help. Curt From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f76-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Thanks for the super-fast response! From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you have a newer level of WAIK (which the WAIK supplement is) that's fine. Originally, we just had WINPE 3.1 without anything else. However - that still isn't safe to use with SCCM 2007 R3. But with MDT, I understand it's OK (I haven't tested it personally). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging You said below to not install WAIK 3.0 if I am using MDT. What about installing the WAIK supplement for Windows 7 SP1? It seems at the very least I should extract Win PE 3.1 from it for compatibility with Advanced Format (4K) Drives (or patch PE 3.0 with 982018)? Thanks for your help. Curt From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f7 6-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. J WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Your card was deducted accordingly... -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker Sent from my Motorola Droid On May 11, 2011 6:34 PM, Jim Dandy jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu wrote: Thanks for the super-fast response! From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you have a newer level of WAIK (which the WAIK supplement is) that's fine. Originally, we just had WINPE 3.1 without anything else. However - that still isn't safe to use with SCCM 2007 R3. But with MDT, I understand it's OK (I haven't tested it personally). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 6:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging You said below to not install WAIK 3.0 if I am using MDT. What about installing the WAIK supplement for Windows 7 SP1? It seems at the very least I should extract Win PE 3.1 from it for compatibility with Advanced Format (4K) Drives (or patch PE 3.0 with 982018)? Thanks for your help. Curt From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f7 6-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. J WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Thanks for all the suggestions, folks - very informative. We'll probably try the ImageX route first, per your suggestions. I saw a demo of the Dell Kace imaging system last a few days ago. It's amazing. Very flexible, easy to use and modify. It's file based, so pushing an image down will be a little slower than an image, but for us this doesn't matter since we do all this centrally. We already have a Dell Kace systems management system here, and the two can work together. I used SCCM a year ago but don't anymore. I'd be willing to take a look at the imaging component only though. We are state/non-profit, so we get the charity pricing from Microsoft. Cost is important to us. Free or cheaper is best. Tom Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu04/01/11 11:09 PM o:p/o:p o:p /o:p o:p /o:p Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imagingo:p/o:p o:p /o:p A name=_MailEndComposeo:p/o:p o:p /o:p For EDU yeah it’s dirt cheap ($57 annual retail for you). We’ve done around half a dozen of these in the past six to eight months for higher ed customers – it’s selling itself. If you have the eCAL, there is usually /substantial/ savings with getting FEP (Forefront Endpoint) deployed as part of this. o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Thanks,o:p/o:p Brian Desmondo:p/o:p o:p/o:p o:p /o:p c – 312.731.3132o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imagingo:p/o:p o:p /o:p Yeah, that’s the situation we’re in. In fact we already have the SCCM license since it’s so cheap through our campus agreement ($50/yr maybe).o:p/o:p o:p /o:p I really haven’t even glanced at it yet, but that’s my plan for the near future. Is it such that I can load SCCM onto one server with no reliance on a separate WDS server at all?o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imagingo:p/o:p o:p /o:p I’ve been pretty impressed with the SCCM value-add here from the demos I’ve seen and meetings I’ve listened in on.o:p/o:p o:p /o:p If you’re a Core CAL customer (or eCAL of course), you already own SCCM CALs and are just on the nut for the server license. You only have to license the primary site server. o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Thanks,o:p/o:p Brian Desmondo:p/o:p o:p/o:p o:p /o:p c – 312.731.3132o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imagingo:p/o:p o:p /o:p So, Microsoft doesn’t just have a “Windows Deployment Services Server”, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions):o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0o:p/o:p Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0o:p/o:p Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2o:p/o:p Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1o:p/o:p (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3o:p/o:p o:p /o:p MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone.o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. o:p/o:p o:p /o:p WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc.o:p/o:p o:p /o:p When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support).o:p/o:p o:p /o:p All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc.o:p/o:p o:p /o:p You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before.o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Regards,o:p/o:p o:p /o:p Michael B. Smitho:p/o:p Consultant and Exchange MVPo:p/o:p http://TheEssentialExchange.como:p/o:p o:p /o:p Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imagingo:p/o:p o:p /o:p This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image
Re: Windows 7 Imaging
This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows 7 Imaging
I haven't tried anything like that, but curious as to why the requirement is for whole disk imaging? I know there is a diskpart config text file for the deployment task sequence in MDT. I wouldn't use WDS on its own, its basically just a PXE server. T Typed slowly on HTC Desire On 1 Apr 2011 20:43, Jonathan ncm...@gmail.com wrote: This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
I wouldn't use WDS on its own, its basically just a PXE server. Right, which can deliver a base, non-customized image to any hardware that has targeted driver groups and customized xml unattended scripts. It's all I use, and my installs do everything, from setting NTFS perms and on... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? That's a misunderstanding between the interaction with the toolset. WDS can basically execute a `diskpart clean` and then carve up the disc however you need. Imagex in itself only images the partition, and setup manages creating the bootldr etc... Its likely irrelevant, one just needs to adapt the approach and let the toolset work. Bottom line is you can still almost assuredly obtain your desired goal without a disc level source dump. jlc ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
+1 -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I wouldn't use WDS on its own, its basically just a PXE server. Right, which can deliver a base, non-customized image to any hardware that has targeted driver groups and customized xml unattended scripts. It's all I use, and my installs do everything, from setting NTFS perms and on... ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Nice overview. Thanks. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f7 6-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. J WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f76-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Thanks for the super-fast response! From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f7 6-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. J WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Isn't waik a requirement for installing MDT? Or is there some version specific things I'm overlooking? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f76-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Nope, you can install it. Granted, the list of things you can accomplish without WAIK is small. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 6:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Isn't waik a requirement for installing MDT? Or is there some version specific things I'm overlooking? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f76-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Hmm, yeah that sounds familiar. Its been a while since I messed with it. But I was referencing the release notes here. Looks like waik is only listed for LTI installs, but SCCM is required for the other two options. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=3bd8561f-77ac-4400-a0c1-fe871c461a89displaylang=entm Prerequisites For Lite Touch Installation (LTI) deployments, MDT 2010 Update 1 requires the following components, regardless of the operating system being deployed. Install these components only on the computer on which you install MDT 2010 Update 1: * Microsoft Management Console (MMC) version 3.0 * Microsoft .NET Framework version 2.0 or version 3.5 with Service Pack 1 (SP1) * Windows PowerShell(tm) version 1.0 or 2.0 * Windows Automated Installation Kit (Windows AIK) for Windows 7 For Zero Touch Installation (ZTI) deployments, MDT 2010 Update 1 requires the following components: * If deploying Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2, System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP2 is required. The installation of System Center Configuration Manager with SP2 also upgrades the Windows AIK to the version compatible with Windows 7. * If deploying pre-Windows 7 versions of the Windows operating system (such as Windows Vista or Windows XP), you can continue to use System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP1. MDT 2010 Update 1 supports System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP1, although you cannot use the Deployment Workbench in this configuration to maintain an MDT database (MDT DB), as the Deployment Workbench requires the Windows AIK for Windows 7. If you are using an MDT DB with System Center Configuration Manager, use System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP2. For UDI deployments, MDT 2010 Update 1 requires the following components: * System Center Configuration Manager 2007 with SP2 * Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 with SP1 * For the UDI web service: * Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) 7.0 (including having IIS 6 Management Compatibility and Windows Authentication enabled) * Microsoft ASP .Net 2.0 (build 2.0.5072) * Microsoft SQL Server(r) 2008 or Microsoft SQL Server 2005 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Nope, you can install it. Granted, the list of things you can accomplish without WAIK is small. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 6:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Isn't waik a requirement for installing MDT? Or is there some version specific things I'm overlooking? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 4:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging If you are using any higher-level of the stack (MDT or SCCM) do NOT install WAIK 3.0 (that's why I didn't mention it). It has breaking changes. As for your other questions: yes, you can simply install the newer versions. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f76-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
For anyone interested - if you install MDT 2010 Update 1, in add/remove programs it shows up as Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Update 1 (5.1.1642.01). From: Jim Dandy [mailto:jda...@asmail.ucdavis.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging From what I can tell based on dates (installed 11/3/09), I don't have update 1 of MDT although I can't find the version number anywhere. According to add/remove programs it is version 5.0.1641.0. How can I tell what version I have? If I have just 2010 (no update) how do I go about updating it? Can I just download and install MDT 2010 Update 1 over the top of my present installation? Similarly, I can't find a version number for my WAIK (Installed 11/3/09). My Windows System Image Manager says version 6.1.7600.16385. How can I tell what version I have and can I just update by installing over the top? It looks like there is a WAIK 3.0 now http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=696dd665-9f7 6-4177-a811-39c26d3b3b34displaylang=en Thanks for your help. Curt Finley From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 1:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. J WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
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I've been pretty impressed with the SCCM value-add here from the demos I've seen and meetings I've listened in on. If you're a Core CAL customer (or eCAL of course), you already own SCCM CALs and are just on the nut for the server license. You only have to license the primary site server. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise
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Yeah, that's the situation we're in. In fact we already have the SCCM license since it's so cheap through our campus agreement ($50/yr maybe). I really haven't even glanced at it yet, but that's my plan for the near future. Is it such that I can load SCCM onto one server with no reliance on a separate WDS server at all? From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I've been pretty impressed with the SCCM value-add here from the demos I've seen and meetings I've listened in on. If you're a Core CAL customer (or eCAL of course), you already own SCCM CALs and are just on the nut for the server license. You only have to license the primary site server. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- Jonathan, A+, MCSA, MCSE ~ Finally, powerful
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
My understanding is that it's all inside the SCCM instance somehow. I have SCCM people so I just know the basics. For EDU yeah it's dirt cheap ($57 annual retail for you). We've done around half a dozen of these in the past six to eight months for higher ed customers - it's selling itself. If you have the eCAL, there is usually /substantial/ savings with getting FEP (Forefront Endpoint) deployed as part of this. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Yeah, that's the situation we're in. In fact we already have the SCCM license since it's so cheap through our campus agreement ($50/yr maybe). I really haven't even glanced at it yet, but that's my plan for the near future. Is it such that I can load SCCM onto one server with no reliance on a separate WDS server at all? From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I've been pretty impressed with the SCCM value-add here from the demos I've seen and meetings I've listened in on. If you're a Core CAL customer (or eCAL of course), you already own SCCM CALs and are just on the nut for the server license. You only have to license the primary site server. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
You don't need a separate WDS server with SCCM, but you still have to install WDS on the SCCM server. SCCM will control WDS, after the initial basic configuration. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 10:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging My understanding is that it's all inside the SCCM instance somehow. I have SCCM people so I just know the basics. For EDU yeah it's dirt cheap ($57 annual retail for you). We've done around half a dozen of these in the past six to eight months for higher ed customers - it's selling itself. If you have the eCAL, there is usually /substantial/ savings with getting FEP (Forefront Endpoint) deployed as part of this. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Yeah, that's the situation we're in. In fact we already have the SCCM license since it's so cheap through our campus agreement ($50/yr maybe). I really haven't even glanced at it yet, but that's my plan for the near future. Is it such that I can load SCCM onto one server with no reliance on a separate WDS server at all? From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I've been pretty impressed with the SCCM value-add here from the demos I've seen and meetings I've listened in on. If you're a Core CAL customer (or eCAL of course), you already own SCCM CALs and are just on the nut for the server license. You only have to license the primary site server. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Excellent. That's what I was hoping. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging You don't need a separate WDS server with SCCM, but you still have to install WDS on the SCCM server. SCCM will control WDS, after the initial basic configuration. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 10:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging My understanding is that it's all inside the SCCM instance somehow. I have SCCM people so I just know the basics. For EDU yeah it's dirt cheap ($57 annual retail for you). We've done around half a dozen of these in the past six to eight months for higher ed customers - it's selling itself. If you have the eCAL, there is usually /substantial/ savings with getting FEP (Forefront Endpoint) deployed as part of this. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Yeah, that's the situation we're in. In fact we already have the SCCM license since it's so cheap through our campus agreement ($50/yr maybe). I really haven't even glanced at it yet, but that's my plan for the near future. Is it such that I can load SCCM onto one server with no reliance on a separate WDS server at all? From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I've been pretty impressed with the SCCM value-add here from the demos I've seen and meetings I've listened in on. If you're a Core CAL customer (or eCAL of course), you already own SCCM CALs and are just on the nut for the server license. You only have to license the primary site server. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Yeah, the cost to upgrade to the enterprise cal was more than offset when we dropped Ninja and Vipre. FEP has been great and you just can't beat the MS licensing for schools. Plus that gave us all the other benefits of the enterprise cal. (I'm assuming that's what you mean by eCAL) From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging My understanding is that it's all inside the SCCM instance somehow. I have SCCM people so I just know the basics. For EDU yeah it's dirt cheap ($57 annual retail for you). We've done around half a dozen of these in the past six to eight months for higher ed customers - it's selling itself. If you have the eCAL, there is usually /substantial/ savings with getting FEP (Forefront Endpoint) deployed as part of this. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Crawford, Scott [mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging Yeah, that's the situation we're in. In fact we already have the SCCM license since it's so cheap through our campus agreement ($50/yr maybe). I really haven't even glanced at it yet, but that's my plan for the near future. Is it such that I can load SCCM onto one server with no reliance on a separate WDS server at all? From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I've been pretty impressed with the SCCM value-add here from the demos I've seen and meetings I've listened in on. If you're a Core CAL customer (or eCAL of course), you already own SCCM CALs and are just on the nut for the server license. You only have to license the primary site server. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com c - 312.731.3132 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging So, Microsoft doesn't just have a Windows Deployment Services Server, they have an entire deployment stack. From the most basic elements, to the most complex, it goes like this (along with current versions): Windows Pre-Execution Environment (WinPE) 3.0 Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) 2.0 Windows Deployment Services Server (WDS) 2008 R2 Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (MDT) 2010 Update 1 (optional) System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM) 2007 R3 MDT can interface with SCCM (it simplifies some basic deployment steps), but SCCM is not required for MDT to be installed standalone. Nothing that MDT or that WDS or that WAIK does is magic. All of it can be duplicated by scripting or by using third-party tools. They are there to make life easier. WinPE has some magic in it, though. :) WinPE plus WAIK are the minimum of what you need to do deployment work (with a reasonable amount of effort as opposed to LOTS of effort). They include WinPE boot images, the ImageX and DISM tools, CD/DVD burning utilities, driver libraries, etc. etc. When you install the WDS server role, and WAIK is not installed on your server, a mini-version of WinPE+WAIK is installed as part of the role (basically, x86 and x64 boot images plus sysprep support). All that just to say, and to be clear: if you have WinPE plus WAIK, you can do anything you want to do to an image. Inject, delete, create, modify, whole disk, single partition, multiple partition, GPT, Fat32/NTFS/utility, etc. etc. etc. You can certainly do what you want. You just have to learn the tools. They are VERY different from those that came before. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 3:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging This is pertinent to a conversation I just had with my counterpart @ work on the west coast. They have to image 5,500 machines for a client and he mentioned that WDS would only image at the partition level. They are looking for whole disk imaging. Will WDS do that or should he be looking at something else? Thanks, Jonathan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.orgmailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system
Windows 7 Imaging
Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows 7 Imaging
If you have Server 2008 R2, WDS is the bees knees. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
Make sure your ghost is up to date so that ghostwalker works properly. And it is even more important to use ghostwalker on Win 7 than it was in XP. What problems is he having? I am guessing it is with preparing the image...getting the default profile right? From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 Imaging Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows 7 Imaging
Cool. We do, so I'll check it out. Anyone else? Buehler? Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com 3/31/2011 8:54 AM If you have Server 2008 R2, WDS is the bees knees. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Tom Miller tmil...@hnncsb.org wrote: Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
I'm a little biased (because I developed courseware for the product), but the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Update 1 is easy to use, light-touch - and free. If you need zero touch, System Center Configuration Manager does the job very well and is infinitely configurable. It isn't, however, free. And it has a learning curve for that infinitely configurable part. The imaging process for Win7 is based on one of two options: VHD or WIM (Windows IMaging - and the VHD option is built on-top-of the WIM option, more-or-less). The preferred tool for creating images is ImageX, which is a Microsoft product (part of both MDT and SCCM). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 Imaging Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows 7 Imaging
+1 for imagex. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: I’m a little biased (because I developed courseware for the product), but the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Update 1 is easy to use, light-touch – and free. If you need zero touch, System Center Configuration Manager does the job very well and is infinitely configurable. It isn’t, however, free. And it has a learning curve for that “infinitely configurable” part. The imaging process for Win7 is based on one of two options: VHD or WIM (Windows IMaging - and the VHD option is built on-top-of the WIM option, more-or-less). The preferred tool for creating images is ImageX, which is a Microsoft product (part of both MDT and SCCM). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Windows 7 Imaging Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows 7 Imaging
+1 for imagex and WDS. Free and easy if you already have the servers. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for imagex. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: I’m a little biased (because I developed courseware for the product), but the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Update 1 is easy to use, light-touch – and free. If you need zero touch, System Center Configuration Manager does the job very well and is infinitely configurable. It isn’t, however, free. And it has a learning curve for that “infinitely configurable” part. The imaging process for Win7 is based on one of two options: VHD or WIM (Windows IMaging - and the VHD option is built on-top-of the WIM option, more-or-less). The preferred tool for creating images is ImageX, which is a Microsoft product (part of both MDT and SCCM). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:50 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Windows 7 Imaging Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
+1 again for ImageX and WDS. I abandoned all my other imaging options as soon I became comfortable with this (which was fast). -Sam From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Windows 7 Imaging +1 for imagex and WDS. Free and easy if you already have the servers. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for imagex. On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: I'm a little biased (because I developed courseware for the product), but the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Update 1 is easy to use, light-touch - and free. If you need zero touch, System Center Configuration Manager does the job very well and is infinitely configurable. It isn't, however, free. And it has a learning curve for that infinitely configurable part. The imaging process for Win7 is based on one of two options: VHD or WIM (Windows IMaging - and the VHD option is built on-top-of the WIM option, more-or-less). The preferred tool for creating images is ImageX, which is a Microsoft product (part of both MDT and SCCM). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 Imaging Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: Windows 7 Imaging
+1 MDT 2010 worked great as a migration tool. One thing we ran into an issue with was several computers having a recovery partition (from Dell) that would ask which volume to install on. Of course this can be fixed within MDT. Thank you, _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I'm a little biased (because I developed courseware for the product), but the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Update 1 is easy to use, light-touch - and free. If you need zero touch, System Center Configuration Manager does the job very well and is infinitely configurable. It isn't, however, free. And it has a learning curve for that infinitely configurable part. The imaging process for Win7 is based on one of two options: VHD or WIM (Windows IMaging - and the VHD option is built on-top-of the WIM option, more-or-less). The preferred tool for creating images is ImageX, which is a Microsoft product (part of both MDT and SCCM). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 Imaging Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: Windows 7 Imaging
+100, I used MDT2010 at %prevjob% for XP deployments, 1 image for all the Dell models we had, very customizable. It can take a bit of playing about to get the deployment sequences working the way you want but its still quick and easy out of the box. The biggest benefit over BDD2007 was the linking to different sites to keep everything in sync. There is a very good forum/list on MyITForum, can't remember the name at the the minute but think it had [mdt-osd] in the email subjects. T On Thursday, 31 March 2011, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote: +1MDT 2010 worked great as a migration tool. One thing we ran into an issue with was several computers having a recovery partition (from Dell) that would ask which volume to install on. Of course this can be fixed within MDT.Thank you, _Cameron CooperSystem Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified AuricoPhone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows 7 Imaging I’m a little biased (because I developed courseware for the product), but the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Update 1 is easy to use, light-touch – and free.If you need zero touch, System Center Configuration Manager does the job very well and is infinitely configurable. It isn’t, however, free. And it has a learning curve for that “infinitely configurable” part.The imaging process for Win7 is based on one of two options: VHD or WIM (Windows IMaging - and the VHD option is built on-top-of the WIM option, more-or-less). The preferred tool for creating images is ImageX, which is a Microsoft product (part of both MDT and SCCM).Regards, Michael B. SmithConsultant and Exchange MVPhttp://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Windows 7 Imaging Folks, We are working towards deploying Windows 7 (along with Office 2010) on current and future shipments of new laptops/PCs. We use syprep and Ghost for our XP image, and it works well. I'm looking for your suggestions/warnings/gotchas as to imaging for Windows 7. Favorite imaging tools, methods, etc? I don't do the imaging here, but my PC guy who does the images seems to be having a bit of a struggle with it compared to XP images, so I thought I'd as you experts. We already have a Dell Kace system management system here, and I'll be viewing a demo today for the imaging component (additional purchase). I'm open to anything that makes the process as painless as possible. If it matters we use Lenovo ThinkPads for our laptops and Dell Optiplex business PCs. Your comments are appreciated. Tom Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
