subject:"\[nysbirds\-l\] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders."

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-24 Thread AJIT ANTONY



Hi NY birders.
I run the Mearns Bird Club io website/ listserv which is open to all birders, 
not only members of the Mearns Bird Club.

Years ago I created "Birding Sites in Orange County and Environs" for our club 
members, which is on the Database section of the io website that casual 
visitors to the site cannot access. It lists all the birding sites in Orange 
County, with the species one can see there, in which season, with general links 
as well as Google Map Links to them.
Members of the io group may edit and add to this file to refine its content. 

If anyone is interested they may go to:
https://groups.io/g/MearnsBirdClub  
and apply to join the group website, mentioning you saw this post.

Neither of the roads in question are gravel roads. They are dirt farm roads. 


Ajit I Antony MD
E A Mearns Bird Club
Orange County, New York



-Original Message-
>From: Robert Lewis 
>Sent: Aug 23, 2020 11:36 PM
>To: AJIT ANTONY , Joshua Malbin 
>
>Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" , Phil Jeffrey 
>
>Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine 
>Island, NY are closed to birders.
>
>There are many gravel roads in the greater Pine Island area.  Many of them are 
>clearly public.  Which ones are privately owned?  What exactly are the 
>boundaries of these private areas?  If there no obvious signs, how is anyone 
>to know?
>
>Bob Lewis
>Sleepy Hollow NY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sunday, August 23, 2020, 7:58:40 PM EDT, Joshua Malbin 
> wrote: 
>
>
>
>Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island, though, 
>with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it *is* 
>acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders, and I am 
>sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is and isn’t okay 
>are valuable to visitors and help us keep things friendly for locals. It would 
>be nice if those guidelines were available someplace.
>
>On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:13 PM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:
>> You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty 
>> Lane.
>> Ajit I Antony, MD
>> Cornwall On Hudson
>> ETA Mearns Bird Club
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Joshua Malbin 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: Phil Jeffrey 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine 
>>> Island, NY are closed to birders.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, 
>>> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, 
>>> etc.?
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
 The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
 
 The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a 
 while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either 
 "private" or "closed to birders"
 
 Phil Heffreyongicauda) (1)
>
>
 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>ABA
>
>Please submit your observations to eBird!
>
>--
>
>--
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>http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
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>http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>
>ARCHIVES:
>1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
>
>Please submit your observations to eBird:
>http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-24 Thread AJIT ANTONY



Hi NY birders.
I run the Mearns Bird Club io website/ listserv which is open to all birders, 
not only members of the Mearns Bird Club.

Years ago I created "Birding Sites in Orange County and Environs" for our club 
members, which is on the Database section of the io website that casual 
visitors to the site cannot access. It lists all the birding sites in Orange 
County, with the species one can see there, in which season, with general links 
as well as Google Map Links to them.
Members of the io group may edit and add to this file to refine its content. 

If anyone is interested they may go to:
https://groups.io/g/MearnsBirdClub  
and apply to join the group website, mentioning you saw this post.

Neither of the roads in question are gravel roads. They are dirt farm roads. 


Ajit I Antony MD
E A Mearns Bird Club
Orange County, New York



-Original Message-
>From: Robert Lewis 
>Sent: Aug 23, 2020 11:36 PM
>To: AJIT ANTONY , Joshua Malbin 
>
>Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" , Phil Jeffrey 
>
>Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine 
>Island, NY are closed to birders.
>
>There are many gravel roads in the greater Pine Island area.  Many of them are 
>clearly public.  Which ones are privately owned?  What exactly are the 
>boundaries of these private areas?  If there no obvious signs, how is anyone 
>to know?
>
>Bob Lewis
>Sleepy Hollow NY
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Sunday, August 23, 2020, 7:58:40 PM EDT, Joshua Malbin 
> wrote: 
>
>
>
>Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island, though, 
>with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it *is* 
>acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders, and I am 
>sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is and isn’t okay 
>are valuable to visitors and help us keep things friendly for locals. It would 
>be nice if those guidelines were available someplace.
>
>On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:13 PM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:
>> You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty 
>> Lane.
>> Ajit I Antony, MD
>> Cornwall On Hudson
>> ETA Mearns Bird Club
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Joshua Malbin 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: Phil Jeffrey 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine 
>>> Island, NY are closed to birders.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, 
>>> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, 
>>> etc.?
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
 The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
 
 The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a 
 while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either 
 "private" or "closed to birders"
 
 Phil Heffreyongicauda) (1)
>
>
 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>ABA
>
>Please submit your observations to eBird!
>
>--
>
>--
>
>NYSbirds-L List Info:
>http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
>http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
>http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>
>ARCHIVES:
>1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
>
>Please submit your observations to eBird:
>http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>
>--
>

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ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Robert Lewis

There are many gravel roads in the greater Pine Island area.  Many of them are 
clearly public.  Which ones are privately owned?  What exactly are the 
boundaries of these private areas?  If there no obvious signs, how is anyone to 
know?

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY

On Sunday, August 23, 2020, 7:58:40 PM EDT, Joshua Malbin 
 wrote: 

Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island, though, 
with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it *is* 
acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders, and I am 
sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is and isn’t okay 
are valuable to visitors and help us keep things friendly for locals. It would 
be nice if those guidelines were available someplace.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:13 PM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:
> You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty 
> Lane.
> Ajit I Antony, MD
> Cornwall On Hudson
> ETA Mearns Bird Club
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> 
>> 
>> From: Joshua Malbin 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM
>> 
>> 
>> To: Phil Jeffrey 
>> 
>> 
>> Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" 
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine 
>> Island, NY are closed to birders.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, 
>> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, 
>> etc.?
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
>>> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>>> 
>>> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a 
>>> while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either 
>>> "private" or "closed to birders"
>>> 
>>> Phil Heffreyongicauda) (1)

>>> 
>> 
>>
>>
ABA

Please submit your observations to eBird!

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ARCHIVES:
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2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Robert Lewis

There are many gravel roads in the greater Pine Island area.  Many of them are 
clearly public.  Which ones are privately owned?  What exactly are the 
boundaries of these private areas?  If there no obvious signs, how is anyone to 
know?

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY

On Sunday, August 23, 2020, 7:58:40 PM EDT, Joshua Malbin 
 wrote: 

Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island, though, 
with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it *is* 
acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders, and I am 
sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is and isn’t okay 
are valuable to visitors and help us keep things friendly for locals. It would 
be nice if those guidelines were available someplace.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:13 PM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:
> You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty 
> Lane.
> Ajit I Antony, MD
> Cornwall On Hudson
> ETA Mearns Bird Club
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> 
>> 
>> From: Joshua Malbin 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM
>> 
>> 
>> To: Phil Jeffrey 
>> 
>> 
>> Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" 
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine 
>> Island, NY are closed to birders.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, 
>> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, 
>> etc.?
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
>>> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>>> 
>>> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a 
>>> while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either 
>>> "private" or "closed to birders"
>>> 
>>> Phil Heffreyongicauda) (1)

>>> 
>> 
>>
>>
ABA

Please submit your observations to eBird!

--

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http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm

ARCHIVES:
1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01

Please submit your observations to eBird:
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Malbin

Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island,
though, with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it
*is* acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders,
and I am sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is
and isn’t okay are valuable to visitors and help us keep things friendly
for locals. It would be nice if those guidelines were available someplace.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:13 PM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:

> You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or
> Liberty Lane.
> Ajit I Antony, MD
> Cornwall On Hudson
> ETA Mearns Bird Club
>
> -Original Message-
>
>
> From: Joshua Malbin
>
>
> Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM
>
>
> To: Phil Jeffrey
>
>
> Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]"
>
>
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine
> Island, NY are closed to birders.
>
>
>
>
>
> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird,
> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask,
> etc.?
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey 
> wrote:
>
>> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>>
>> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a
>> while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either
>> "private" or "closed to birders"
>>
>> Phil Heffrey
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange
>>> County, NY.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
>>>
>>>
>>> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3
>>> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows
>>> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E
>>> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
>>>
>>>
>>> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
>>>
>>>
>>> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
>>>
>>>
>>> - Map:
>>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
>>>
>>>
>>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
>>>
>>>
>>> - Media: 2 Photos
>>>
>>>
>>> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower
>>> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from
>>> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I
>>> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't
>>> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
>>>
>>>
>>> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a
>>> fee of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway
>>> )
>>> and continue on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road
>>> along the Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your
>>> right. The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 -
>>> Lower Road where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from
>>> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed
>>> to birders.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these
>>> properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird
>>> Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits
>>> trespassing on private property.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ajit I Antony MD
>>>
>>>
>>> E A Mearns Bird Club
>>>
>>>
>>> Orange County, New York
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ARCHIVES:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>>>
>>>
>>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please submit your observations to eBird:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> "If you lie to the compiler,

Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Malbin

Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island,
though, with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it
*is* acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders,
and I am sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is
and isn’t okay are valuable to visitors and help us keep things friendly
for locals. It would be nice if those guidelines were available someplace.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:13 PM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:

> You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or
> Liberty Lane.
> Ajit I Antony, MD
> Cornwall On Hudson
> ETA Mearns Bird Club
>
> -Original Message-
>
>
> From: Joshua Malbin
>
>
> Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM
>
>
> To: Phil Jeffrey
>
>
> Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]"
>
>
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine
> Island, NY are closed to birders.
>
>
>
>
>
> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird,
> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask,
> etc.?
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey 
> wrote:
>
>> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>>
>> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a
>> while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either
>> "private" or "closed to birders"
>>
>> Phil Heffrey
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange
>>> County, NY.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
>>>
>>>
>>> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3
>>> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows
>>> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E
>>> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
>>>
>>>
>>> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
>>>
>>>
>>> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
>>>
>>>
>>> - Map:
>>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
>>>
>>>
>>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
>>>
>>>
>>> - Media: 2 Photos
>>>
>>>
>>> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower
>>> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from
>>> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I
>>> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't
>>> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
>>>
>>>
>>> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a
>>> fee of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway
>>> )
>>> and continue on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road
>>> along the Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your
>>> right. The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 -
>>> Lower Road where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from
>>> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed
>>> to birders.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these
>>> properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird
>>> Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits
>>> trespassing on private property.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ajit I Antony MD
>>>
>>>
>>> E A Mearns Bird Club
>>>
>>>
>>> Orange County, New York
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ARCHIVES:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>>>
>>>
>>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please submit your observations to eBird:
>>>
>>>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread AJIT ANTONY

You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty Lane.Ajit I Antony, MDCornwall On HudsonETA Mearns Bird Club-Original Message-
From: Joshua Malbin 
Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM
To: Phil Jeffrey 
Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, etc.?On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on hereThe simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either "private" or "closed to birders"Phil HeffreyOn Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange County, NY.Please note that Sunflower Valley Farmin Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E A Mearns Club respect his wishes.However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)- Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder- Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069- Media: 2 Photos- Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right. The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower Road where the large silos are, is the property in question.Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed to birders.Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing on private property.https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/Ajit I Antony MDE A Mearns Bird ClubOrange County, New York--NYSbirds-L List Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htmhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htmhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htmARCHIVES:1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ "If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge"-- Henry Spencer			--	NYSbirds-L List Info:	Welcome and Basics 	Rules and Information 	Subscribe, Configuration and Leave	Archives:	The Mail Archive	Surfbirds	ABA	Please submit your observations to eBird!	--

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread AJIT ANTONY

You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or Liberty Lane.Ajit I Antony, MDCornwall On HudsonETA Mearns Bird Club-Original Message-
From: Joshua Malbin 
Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM
To: Phil Jeffrey 
Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, etc.?On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on hereThe simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either "private" or "closed to birders"Phil HeffreyOn Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange County, NY.Please note that Sunflower Valley Farmin Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E A Mearns Club respect his wishes.However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)- Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder- Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069- Media: 2 Photos- Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right. The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower Road where the large silos are, is the property in question.Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed to birders.Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing on private property.https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/Ajit I Antony MDE A Mearns Bird ClubOrange County, New York--NYSbirds-L List Info:http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htmhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htmhttp://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htmARCHIVES:1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01Please submit your observations to eBird:http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ "If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge"-- Henry Spencer			--	NYSbirds-L List Info:	Welcome and Basics 	Rules and Information 	Subscribe, Configuration and Leave	Archives:	The Mail Archive	Surfbirds	ABA	Please submit your observations to eBird!	--

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Felipe Pimentel

Hi Joshua,

You can try Skinner  lane (sod farms) for migrating shorebirds in September. 
The area that has been closed to birders in the one between R12 and the bridge 
that cross the river. There are other “private roads” in the area of Pine 
Island and Florida where birding is “tolerated” but don’t drive into the fields 
where you find people working the agricultural fields.

Good luck,

Felipe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Joshua Malbin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, 
> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, 
> etc.?
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
>> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>> 
>> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a while 
>> back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either "private" or 
>> "closed to birders"
>> 
>> Phil Heffrey
>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:
>>> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange 
>>> County, NY.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 
>>> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows 
>>> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E 
>>> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Map: 
>>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Media: 2 Photos
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower 
>>> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from 
>>> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I 
>>> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't 
>>> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee 
>>> of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue on 
>>> to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the Wallkill 
>>> River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right. The 
>>> property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower Road 
>>> where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from 
>>> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed 
>>> to birders.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these properties, 
>>> the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird Club are the 
>>> ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing 
>>> on private property.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ajit I Antony MD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> E A Mearns Bird Club
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Orange County, New York
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Felipe Pimentel

Hi Joshua,

You can try Skinner  lane (sod farms) for migrating shorebirds in September. 
The area that has been closed to birders in the one between R12 and the bridge 
that cross the river. There are other “private roads” in the area of Pine 
Island and Florida where birding is “tolerated” but don’t drive into the fields 
where you find people working the agricultural fields.

Good luck,

Felipe

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 23, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Joshua Malbin  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, 
> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, 
> etc.?
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:
>> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>> 
>> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a while 
>> back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either "private" or 
>> "closed to birders"
>> 
>> Phil Heffrey
>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:
>>> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange 
>>> County, NY.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 
>>> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows 
>>> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E 
>>> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Map: 
>>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Media: 2 Photos
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower 
>>> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from 
>>> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I 
>>> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't 
>>> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee 
>>> of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue on 
>>> to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the Wallkill 
>>> River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right. The 
>>> property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower Road 
>>> where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from 
>>> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed 
>>> to birders.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these properties, 
>>> the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird Club are the 
>>> ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing 
>>> on private property.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ajit I Antony MD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> E A Mearns Bird Club
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Orange County, New York
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Malbin

Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird,
where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask,
etc.?

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:

> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>
> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a
> while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either
> "private" or "closed to birders"
>
> Phil Heffrey
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY 
> wrote:
>
>> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange
>> County, NY.
>>
>>
>> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
>>
>>
>> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3
>> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows
>> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E
>> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
>>
>>
>> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
>>
>>
>> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
>>
>>
>> - Map:
>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
>>
>>
>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
>>
>>
>> - Media: 2 Photos
>>
>>
>> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower
>> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from
>> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I
>> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't
>> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
>>
>>
>> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a
>> fee of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
>>
>>
>> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
>>
>>
>> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway
>> )
>> and continue on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road
>> along the Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your
>> right. The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 -
>> Lower Road where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from
>> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed
>> to birders.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these
>> properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird
>> Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits
>> trespassing on private property.
>>
>>
>> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ajit I Antony MD
>>
>>
>> E A Mearns Bird Club
>>
>>
>> Orange County, New York
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> NYSbirds-L List Info:
>>
>>
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
>>
>>
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
>>
>>
>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ARCHIVES:
>>
>>
>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
>>
>>
>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
>>
>>
>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please submit your observations to eBird:
>>
>>
>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-23 Thread Joshua Malbin

Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird,
where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask,
etc.?

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey  wrote:

> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>
> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a
> while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either
> "private" or "closed to birders"
>
> Phil Heffrey
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY 
> wrote:
>
>> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange
>> County, NY.
>>
>>
>> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
>>
>>
>> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3
>> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows
>> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E
>> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
>>
>>
>> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
>>
>>
>> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
>>
>>
>> - Map:
>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
>>
>>
>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
>>
>>
>> - Media: 2 Photos
>>
>>
>> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower
>> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from
>> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I
>> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't
>> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
>>
>>
>> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a
>> fee of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
>>
>>
>> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
>>
>>
>> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway
>> )
>> and continue on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road
>> along the Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your
>> right. The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 -
>> Lower Road where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from
>> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed
>> to birders.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these
>> properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird
>> Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits
>> trespassing on private property.
>>
>>
>> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ajit I Antony MD
>>
>>
>> E A Mearns Bird Club
>>
>>
>> Orange County, New York
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-22 Thread Phil Jeffrey

The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here

The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a
while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either
"private" or "closed to birders"

Phil Heffrey

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:

> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange
> County, NY.
> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3
> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows
> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E
> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>
> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>
> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
> - Map:
> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
> - Media: 2 Photos
> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower
> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from
> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>
> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I
> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't
> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee
> of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>
> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue
> on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the
> Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right.
> The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower
> Road where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>
> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from
> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed
> to birders.
>
> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these
> properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird
> Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>
> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing
> on private property.
> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>
> Ajit I Antony MD
> E A Mearns Bird Club
> Orange County, New York
>
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-22 Thread Phil Jeffrey

The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here

The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a
while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either
"private" or "closed to birders"

Phil Heffrey

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY  wrote:

> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange
> County, NY.
> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3
> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows
> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E
> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>
> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>
> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
> - Map:
> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
> - Media: 2 Photos
> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower
> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from
> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>
> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I
> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't
> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee
> of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>
> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue
> on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the
> Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right.
> The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower
> Road where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>
> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from
> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed
> to birders.
>
> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these
> properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird
> Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>
> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing
> on private property.
> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>
> Ajit I Antony MD
> E A Mearns Bird Club
> Orange County, New York
>
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[nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-22 Thread AJIT ANTONY

To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange County, 
NY.
Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 years 
or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows that he 
does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E A Mearns 
Club respect his wishes.

However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:

Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
- Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
- Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
- Media: 2 Photos
- Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower fields 
with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from a photo on 
the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."

This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I don't 
believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't blame 
Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee of 
$5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/

For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue on to 
Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the Wallkill River, 
at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right. The property beyond 
that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower Road where the large 
silos are, is the property in question.

Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from the 
parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed to 
birders.

Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these properties, the 
owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird Club are the ones 
trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!

Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing on 
private property.
https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/

Ajit I Antony MD
E A Mearns Bird Club
Orange County, New York

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[nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine Island, NY are closed to birders.

2020-08-22 Thread AJIT ANTONY

To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange County, 
NY.
Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 years 
or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows that he 
does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E A Mearns 
Club respect his wishes.

However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:

Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
- Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
- Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
- Map: 
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8=p=13=41.3354014,-74.4864158=41.3354014,-74.4864158
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
- Media: 2 Photos
- Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower fields 
with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from a photo on 
the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."

This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I don't 
believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't blame 
Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee of 
$5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/

For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue on to 
Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the Wallkill River, 
at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right. The property beyond 
that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower Road where the large 
silos are, is the property in question.

Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from the 
parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed to 
birders.

Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these properties, the 
owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird Club are the ones 
trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!

Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing on 
private property.
https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/

Ajit I Antony MD
E A Mearns Bird Club
Orange County, New York

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