[obrolan-bandar] Re: Index dan BUMI

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Petualang Saham
Di pancing pake CEWE CNTX mungkin Embah maw keluar kali Bro...
He.. he.. he..

canda Mbah...


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 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, SSTrader-01
 febry.hariyannugraha@ wrote:
 
  Sebenernya cukup ngagetin juga untuk saya pribadi, BUMI naik 3%-an ...
 Index
  malah merah hampir 2%
  Yang ada dikepala saya saat ini apakah Index mover mau berganti ? Yang
  tadinya BUMI jadi yang lain ..
  ADARO mungkin .. or Banking ? Ngeliat penurunan BBRI .. kayaknya masuk
 akan
  untuk bilang Index dibawa turun oleh Banking ...
  Comments ?
 
 
 
 Teknik Kuda-Kuda BOZZ...
 Sebenarnya si mBah nih yg harusnya menjelaskan dan warning kita para
 cucu nya...
 
 Berhubung dari kemarin-2 udah ditanya, tapi mBah masih gak nongol juga,
 http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/93524
 
 para cucu pada bingung deh, kayak ayam nyeberang kehilangan induk.
 
 Salam,





[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik sylar_fang

... IPOT bisa ... 500 juta minimal saldo ...

:)



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 oi dimana broker yg bisa ngeshort, apa requirementnya?
 
 Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
 That's correct. Excludes fx trading etc.
 
 Elaine
 
 2008/7/15 Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 BUkannya kemarin awal Mei masih 25% YtD EL?
 
 --- On Tue, 15/7/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 3:20 PM
  

 
 Right. I write a typo, should be 154%.
 
 Elaine
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Lindt linda_syarif@ yahoo.co. 
id wrote:
  
 
  
   Makanya el. Ga ada org yg tau market. Bener kan ? 
 
 Konsorsium? Big money ? Bandar ? Go to hell. Hehehehehe.. .. Power 
of market.
 
 Makanya jangan dengerin orang. Pantau aja sendiri.
 
 
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   Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:54:15 +0700
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216
   
 
 
 
 
 Me too. Anyway, Elaine baru kena marah Investor. I'm sooo dead. :( 
YTD gain 190% tinggal 54%. JANGAN TERTAWA!! Elaine sedang kesal...
   
 Elaine
 
 
 
 
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   Hani.Prasetyo@ ... wrote:
  
 
  Pak Oen...
   
udah kepalang basah... nyemplung sekalian
  
 
  Hidup diver...
  
 
  Saya tetap nggak akan nampung commodities. ..
 
  Good Luck!
 
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
musti cover same day? 

sylar_fang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 ... IPOT bisa ... 500 juta minimal saldo ...
 
 :)
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  oi dimana broker yg bisa ngeshort, apa requirementnya?
  
  Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote: 
  That's correct. Excludes fx trading etc.
  
  Elaine
  
  2008/7/15 Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  BUkannya kemarin awal Mei masih 25% YtD EL?
  
  --- On Tue, 15/7/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  
  Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 3:20 PM
   
 
  
  Right. I write a typo, should be 154%.
  
  Elaine
  
  
  
  
   On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Lindt linda_syarif@ yahoo.co. 
 id wrote:
   
  
   
Makanya el. Ga ada org yg tau market. Bener kan ? 
  
  Konsorsium? Big money ? Bandar ? Go to hell. Hehehehehe.. .. Power 
 of market.
  
  Makanya jangan dengerin orang. Pantau aja sendiri.
  
  
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powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
  
  
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  From:  Elaine Sui you.can.call. me.elaine@ gmail.com
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:54:15 +0700
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216

  
  
  
  
  Me too. Anyway, Elaine baru kena marah Investor. I'm sooo dead. :( 
 YTD gain 190% tinggal 54%. JANGAN TERTAWA!! Elaine sedang kesal...

  Elaine
  
  
  
  
  2008/7/15 oentoeng_qq oentoeng_qq@ yahoo.com:
   
  
  
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Hani.Prasetyo@ ... wrote:
   
  
   Pak Oen...

 udah kepalang basah... nyemplung sekalian
   
  
   Hidup diver...
   
  
   Saya tetap nggak akan nampung commodities. ..
  
   Good Luck!
  
  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Index dan BUMI

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Petualang Saham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Di pancing pake CEWE CNTX mungkin Embah maw keluar kali Bro...
 He.. he.. he..

 canda Mbah...



Biasanya sih gitu, bro...  kekekek.

Ampoen mBah...




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Masih ada yang tertarik small cap hot stock(BF)?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Bernie
-LTLS,ditutup 920 jadi udah balik lagi ke P/E 2,8. sementara BV dari lap Q1
865. belakangan tampak diturunkan dengan volum tipis tapi pasti,bisa ke
berapa diturunin lagi?

-JPRS,tutup 680 sementara P/E 4,25. Press release waktu RUPS net profit
sampai Mei udah 65M setara EPS 86,jadi kenaikan profit masih konsisten.
Anggaplah JPRS profit bulan2 berikutnya cuma bisa nutup beban alias gak
untung,tetap aja masih P/E 8.

-TBLA,saya kira banyak yang kejebak karna 'murah'nya itu waktu lap Q1.
Mungkin sekarang lagi diganggu sampai buy back selesai,atau memang sektor
CPO downtrend jadi pencapaiannya gak berarti apa2?

-TMAS,laba Q1 melonjak dan jelang Q2 ini minggu lalu tiba2 diborong tapi
sekarang kembali lagi ke 400. Dengan P/E 2,5 dan BV 340,mo diapain lagi nih
saham.

Saya udah pernah jajal BISI,MIRA yang survive waktu crash,dan kemarin2 HEXA
yang katanya bearish jangan dipegang lama2. Fokus fundamental bisa jadi
pilihan,tapi waktu 'huru hara' rasio(buat hitungan) dan rasio lainnya (akal
sehat) bisa jadi gak sinkron. yang punya time frame agak panjangan sih
bolehlah



On 7/14/08, andrw268 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 neh BF BF pada jalan maju ke depan atau mandek alias jalan di
 tempat ?
 atau malah sekalian jalannya mundur ke belakang ?
 merah melulu.

 pak tom.
 rencana FPNI ngebut tuh kapan ?
 yg ada kyknya mundur mlulu jalannya ?
 apa mgkn pak tom bisa agak sedikit  spesifik...target time, atau
 target price ?
 spy ada gambaran buat sy yg ambil di 290.

 mbah.hasil semedinya buat JPRS gmn ?
 ada wangsit baru kah ?
 koq melorot trus ?

 properti kmrn rally kenceng..hr ini merah.kyknya jebakan aja
 neh merah spy besok bisa ngebut
 hidup CTRA.

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Tom DS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  *Wahwahwah*
  **
  *Saya beberapa hari ini absen dari OB, ikutan road show di luar.*
  **
  *Kayanya impossible pak Jos... Kalau di bawah 5900 saja saya yang
 borong
  deh, saya batalin nyupir FPNI  CPOs nya...*
  *Wah, kaya pada nggak tau aja firm valuenya BUMI berapa.. Liat coal
  resourcesnya, potential growthnya, ROEnya, cashflownya, expansion
 plannya,
  managementnya.*
  **
  *Kayanya pak Jos baru ikut acara
  **www.mimpikaliyee.com*http://www.mimpikaliyee.com
  * nih...hahaha.. bercanda pak Jos.. =)*
  *Boleh aja sih mau diturunin ke situ nanti kta sikat bareng-bareng
 lah..*
  **
  **
  *T.o.m*
 
 
 
 
 
  On 7/10/08, jos_martino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Perkiraan seperti ini:
  
   Paling cepat: MINGGU DEPAN
   Paling lambat: AKHIR TAHUN
   Kalo ambil tengahnya kira-kira bulan SEPTEMBER 2008.
  
   Disc ON
   rgs,
   JM
  
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   obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com,
   Kidod25 kidod25@ wrote:
   
kapan pak Rp 4500 BUMI
   
--- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com,
   jos_martino
jos_martino@ wrote:




 Group ini suka sekali menggoreng sahamnya sehingga nilainya
   menjadi
 SANGAT TIDAK WAJAR. PER saham mereka jauh LEBIH TINGGI dari
industri-nya
 seperti BUMI yang PER-nya pernah mencapai 167 …wuih edan.



 Saat inilah BALON-nya PECAH, diawali dengan ENRG yang terjun
   bebas
ke
 880 kemudian BUMI yang akan MENUJU ...





 BUMI = Rp.4.500,-





 Rgs,

 JM

   
  
  
  
 

 



[obrolan-bandar] Repost: Apakah 2167 akan tetap menjadi THE LOWEST tahun ini ???

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik MacD
Baru 15 menit pagi ini Dow sudah minus 100 lebih
Jadi berharap apakah bisa 2167 tetap jadi the lowset tahun ini...

BUMI... ADARO... ???


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[obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Frendy

- Original Message - 
From: Mr Frendy Chandra 
To: obrolan-bandar 
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:54 PM
Subject: OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH


om bandar BEI, shorter BEI, pemain besar BEI, para senior BEI
per hari ini gw ngaku NYERAH deh ama BURSA GILAEDAN
pertama kali masuk bursa APRIL 2007dikasih ENAK ENAK MULU
crash agst 2007 TIDAK terasaCrash jan 2008 mulai BERASA...
march madness april massacre june market GOBLOK mulai bikin 
MABOK KEPAYANGskr JULY ? wew

TONIGHT WE DIE IN HELLL..

biasanya kalo retail kecil spt saya nyerahtanda nya apa ya ???


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[obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Frendy
om bandar BEI, shorter BEI, pemain besar BEI, para senior BEI
per hari ini gw ngaku NYERAH deh ama BURSA GILAEDAN
pertama kali masuk bursa APRIL 2007dikasih ENAK ENAK MULU
crash agst 2007 TIDAK terasaCrash jan 2008 mulai BERASA...
march madness april massacre june market GOBLOK mulai bikin 
MABOK KEPAYANGskr JULY ? wew

TONIGHT WE DIE IN HELLL..

biasanya kalo retail kecil spt saya nyerahtanda nya apa ya ???

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Lagi pesimis semua nih

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yudhistirajaya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Saya termasuk yg optimis, index terendah tahun ini mungkin tinggal 1
 atau 2 hari lagi, setelah itu akan ada rebound 



Wah, menarik nih...
Bisa di share alasan/analisa-nya ke kita-kita pak?
We appreciate if you could share with us.
Thanks.

Salam,




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Lagi pesimis semua nih

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
bagi yg punya bloomerg,ada volatility index, sekarang dah sekitar 28, biasanya 
kalo dah 30-32an panik sudah muncak dan trader bakal hajar kanan

boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In 
obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, yudhistirajaya
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Saya termasuk yg optimis, index terendah tahun ini mungkin tinggal 1
  atau 2 hari lagi, setelah itu akan ada rebound 
 
 
 Wah, menarik nih...
 Bisa di share alasan/analisa-nya ke kita-kita pak?
 We appreciate if you could share with us.
 Thanks.
 
 Salam,
 
 
 
   

   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Lagi pesimis semua nih

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 bagi yg punya bloomerg,ada volatility index, sekarang dah sekitar 28,
biasanya kalo dah 30-32an panik sudah muncak dan trader bakal hajar
kanan


Gimana cara pencet di bloomberg nya? hehe...
Maksudnya ketik apaan di bloomberg, maklum saya gaptek nih  [:p]


Thanks,




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Repost: Apakah 2167 akan tetap menjadi THE LOWEST tahun ini ???

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Bernie
Panggung NYSE lagi main KUNGFU BEAR tuh. Dow gak kebendung buat ke 2year
low,apa jadinya BEI 2year low bisa ampunn.. Moga bandarnya ADARO do
something,klo nggak bisa2 gak ada ritel yang bid

On 7/15/08, MacD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Baru 15 menit pagi ini Dow sudah minus 100 lebih
 Jadi berharap apakah bisa 2167 tetap jadi the lowset tahun ini...

 BUMI... ADARO... ???


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[obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Rei
Stocks are getting knocked lower again as investors grapple with 
escalating instability in the financial sector...

Mana mungkin sektor finance/banking memimpin comeback-nya bursa? 
Impossible...not now at least...hehe, boro2 bursa bisa comeback. 
Mundur melulu...




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik andy lou
Tenang paling nanti closed nya + dikit...

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:26 AM






Stocks are getting knocked lower again as investors grapple with 
escalating instability in the financial sector...

Mana mungkin sektor finance/banking memimpin comeback-nya bursa? 
Impossible.. .not now at least...hehe, boro2 bursa bisa comeback. 
Mundur melulu...

 














  

USD REKSADANA ORI RE: [obrolan-bandar] Investor Saham Beralih ke Valas

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Ricky Wakiman
Hari ini sebagian orang panic selling jual USD waktu jatuh ke level Rp
9.120. Temen saya di money changer bisa jual level segitu, berarti belinya
di bawahnya lagi. 

 

Gak tau ada hubungannya apa kagak, reksadana berbasis ORI 4 laris manis.
Minggu lalu jualannya Bahana yang berbunga 9,5 - 10% sudah ludes. Hari ini
orang berebut masuk reksadana ORI -4 nya Schroder yang kasih bunga 10,5 -
11%. Kalau gak salah launch size-nya 100 milyar dan bisa ditingkatkan jadi 1
T. Katanya sih hari ini juga sudah ditutup. 

 

Gile ya, ternyata masih banyak orang yang NGGAK nyangkut di saham. Hi, hi,
hi. 

 

RW

 

 

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On Behalf Of Widyanto Duta Nugroho
Sent: 15 Juli 2008 18:13
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Investor Saham Beralih ke Valas

 




Investor Saham Beralih ke Valas

Asteria


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(inilah.com/Bayu Suta)

 

INILAH.COM, Jakarta - Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) tidak mampu menahan
terpaan sentimen negatif dan terjun bebas ke level yang cukup rendah. Hal
ini dipicu aksi investor yang mengalihkan kepemilikan sahamnya ke instrumen
valas. 

Pada perdagangan saham Selasa (15/7), IHSG ditutup turun 44,688 poin (1,98%)
menjadi 2.214,852. Indeks LQ-45 turun 11,431 poin (2,42%) menjadi 461,711
dan Jakarta Islamic Index (JII) turun 5,687 poin (1,45%) menjadi 387,411.

Analis Bumiputera Capital Chrisbiantoro mengatakan, indeks saham hari ini
menunjukkan penurunan tajam. Setelah dibuka di 2.260, IHSG terus turun 26,39
poin dan ditutup di posisi 2.233 pada sesi siang. 

Indeks tidak mampu bertahan terhadap sentimen negatif pelemahan bursa
regional, sehingga akhirnya ditutup anjlok pada sore ini di level 2.260.
Menurut Chris, memburuknya bursa regional dan domestik membuat investor
khawatir untuk bermain di pasar saham. 

Mereka pun mengalihkan investasinya ke instrumen yang dianggap lebih aman
yaitu pasar uang. Para investor berusaha menyelamatkan investasinya dengan
switching ke pasar valas, tuturnya.

Adapun pelemahan pasar bursa tidak lepas dari kasus finansial di AS yang
menimbulkan kekhawatiran bagi investor global. Sentimen negatif muncul dari
krisis kredit AS setelah dua perusahaan finansial Fannie Mae dan Freddie Mac
rugi besar. Hal ini membuat kekhawatiran pasar global akan munculnya
kembali kasus subprime, tambahnya.

Anjloknya bursa juga disebabkan merosotnya harga minyak di pasar
internasional dan turunnya bursa komoditas, seperti harga timah. Hal ini
menyebabkan investor tidak bersemangat lagi. Sikap investor yang wait and
see ini membuat indeks saham turun, ulasnya.

Adapun saham yang hari ini mencatatkan penurunan cukup tajam adalah PT
Telkom Tbk (TLKM). Emiten sektor telekomunikasi ini anjlok karena faktor
fundamental yang kurang menguntungkan.

Demikian pula saham perbankan seperti PT Bank Rakyat Indonesia Tbk (BBRI),
PT Bank Central Asia Tbk (BBCA), PT Bank Mandiri Tbk (BMRI) dan PT Bank
Danamon Tbk (BDMN) yang menunjukkan kemerosotan, terkait jatuhnya sektor
finansial global. 

Hal ini ditambah kenaikan suku bunga SBI menjadi 8,75% yang menimbulkan
kekhawatiran terjadinya kredit bermasalah perbankan serta sulitnya
penyaluran kredit yang pada akhirnya mempengaruhi kinerjanya.

Perdagangan saham hari ini mencatat transaksi 50.708 kali, dengan volume
2,015 miliar unit saham, senilai Rp 3,261 triliun. Sebanyak 37 saham naik,
169 saham turun dan 57 saham stagnan.

Saham-saham yang turun antara lain, PT Timah Tbk (TINS) turun Rp1.050 ke
posisi Rp 34.950, PT Astra Agro Lestari Tbk (AALI) turun Rp 600 ke posisi Rp
25.750, PT Astra Internasional Tbk (ASII) turun Rp 500 ke posisi Rp 19.750,
dan PT Perusahaan Gas Negara Tbk (PGAS) turun Rp 450 menjadi Rp 11.200.

Juga saham PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia Tbk (TLKM) turun Rp 450 ke posisi Rp
6.900, PT International Nickel Indonesia Tbk (INCO) turun Rp 300 menjadi Rp
4.800, PT Bank Rakyat Indonesia Tbk (BBRI) turun Rp 300 menjadi Rp 5.200 dan
PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (ANTM) turun Rp 100 menjadi Rp 2.925. 

Saham-saham yang ditutup menguat antara lain, PT Indo Tambangraya Megah Tbk
(ITMG) naik Rp 550 ke posisi Rp 33.050, PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam Tbk
(PTBA) naik Rp 250 ke posisi Rp 14.500, PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) naik Rp
250 menjadi Rp 6.900, PT Indosat Tbk (ISAT) naik Rp 200 ke posisi Rp 6.750.

Jatuhnya dua perusahaan finansial AS yaitu Fannie Mae dan Freddie Mac juga
membawa dampak buruk bagi bursa regional. Seperti indeks Kospi Korea yang
turun 3,16% menjadi 1.509,33 basis poin, level terendah sejak 10 April 2007.


Indeks Nikkei Jepang juga turun 255,60 poin (2%) menjadi 12.754,56 basis
poin, terendah sejak 1 April lalu. Hal ini dipicu anjloknya saham finansial
di bursa. Indeks Topix turun 27,60 poin (2,2%) menjadi 1.253,12 basis poin.

Indeks Hang Seng di bursa Hong Kong turun 839,69 poin (3,8%) menjadi
21.174,77 basis poin. Penurunan ini sudah terjadi dua hari terakhir. Saham
yang memicu pelemahan bursa ialah saham Bank of 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: JUAL ADARO ?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik t_bumi
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahau doank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 kalo naik 10% sudah sell?
 kalo baca Koran Kontan beberapa hari lalu, di Black Market, saham 
adaro udah dijual 1500 loch...
  
 pembuktian memang bisa dilihat besok, hehehhe.. apakah Kontan hanya 
ngalor ngidul atau ADRO emang banyak peminatnya ditengah IDX yg lagi 
gak bersahabat.
  
 Ahau
 http://ipostocks.blogspot.com
 
 SIP : TBUMI

Pemain jangan terjebak dgn berbagai akal licin dari pemodal besar.

Pemodal besar sdh dpt harga launching dlm jlh besar, biasanya pd

pembukaan mereka ini pasti akan ikut borong saham tsb agar harganya

meroket, begitu tembus harga tertinggi mereka akan distribusikan

saham tsb. Tentunya mereka akan ambil harga tengah tsb, yg 

terpenting mereka masih tetap cuan dan retailer akan gigit jari.

Apalagi DOWJ merahnya sangat tinggi hari ini.

Bila retailer tak percaya, maka lihat saja nanti.





[obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik sulistyo_winarto
Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, bank2 pada ambruk.
Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sulistyo_winarto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat yang tua 
 nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam dari yang
 pasti nyangkut
 
 The ultimate sell signal: Part II
 
 Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?
 
 Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008
 
 SEATTLE  -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year to be
 investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, parsing the
 fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about chronic
 economic crises.
 
 The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its division
 of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, by 40%
 this year. The division currently has 233 employees. Considering that
 only three banks failed last year, why do they need more examiners?
 
 For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired employees with
 experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, it's not
 just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and savings
 and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their assets.
 
 This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, who set
 upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as much of
 the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full
 assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for uninsured
 depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured deposits,
 probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk about it,
 and we'll send you some more later.
 
 This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There probably will
 be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead of them.
 The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down from 136
 problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's three
 failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC expects to have
 a busy year.
 
 The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank accounts to
 insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-only
 money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions (even banks)
 and maybe short-term Treasury bills.
 
 I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put a lot of
 pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any questionable
 securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks don't
 have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,
 fiduciary responsibility. I am also sure the SEC has made its
 expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.
 
 First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government
 Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on his term.
 See full story.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/ultimate-sell-signal/story.aspx?g\
 uid=%7BD566230C%2DF9D9%2D4384%2DB64E%2DE9B480D2B23F%7D
 
 Now the FDIC is staffing up. It's time to rethink your investments.





Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Lindt
Djia dalem dalem. Kejadian juga. Nger...


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-Original Message-
From: sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:39:50 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update


Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, bank2 pada ambruk.
Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sulistyo_winarto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat yang tua 
 nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam dari yang
 pasti nyangkut
 
 The ultimate sell signal: Part II
 
 Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?
 
 Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008
 
 SEATTLE  -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year to be
 investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, parsing the
 fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about chronic
 economic crises.
 
 The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its division
 of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, by 40%
 this year. The division currently has 233 employees. Considering that
 only three banks failed last year, why do they need more examiners?
 
 For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired employees with
 experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, it's not
 just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and savings
 and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their assets.
 
 This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, who set
 upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as much of
 the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full
 assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for uninsured
 depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured deposits,
 probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk about it,
 and we'll send you some more later.
 
 This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There probably will
 be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead of them.
 The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down from 136
 problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's three
 failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC expects to have
 a busy year.
 
 The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank accounts to
 insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-only
 money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions (even banks)
 and maybe short-term Treasury bills.
 
 I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put a lot of
 pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any questionable
 securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks don't
 have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,
 fiduciary responsibility. I am also sure the SEC has made its
 expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.
 
 First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government
 Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on his term.
 See full story.

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/ultimate-sell-signal/story.aspx?g\
 uid=%7BD566230C%2DF9D9%2D4384%2DB64E%2DE9B480D2B23F%7D
 
 Now the FDIC is staffing up. It's time to rethink your investments.






Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JUAL ADARO ?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Lindt
Setuju. Ati2 adaro. Danatama bo !


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-Original Message-
From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:38:38 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JUAL ADARO ?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahau doank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 kalo naik 10% sudah sell?
 kalo baca Koran Kontan beberapa hari lalu, di Black Market, saham 
adaro udah dijual 1500 loch...
 �
 pembuktian memang bisa dilihat besok, hehehhe.. apakah Kontan hanya 
ngalor ngidul atau ADRO emang banyak peminatnya ditengah IDX yg lagi 
gak bersahabat.
 �
 Ahau
 http://ipostocks.blogspot.com
 
 SIP : TBUMI

Pemain jangan terjebak dgn berbagai akal licin dari pemodal besar.

Pemodal besar sdh dpt harga launching dlm jlh besar, biasanya pd

pembukaan mereka ini pasti akan ikut borong saham tsb agar harganya

meroket, begitu tembus harga tertinggi mereka akan distribusikan

saham tsb. Tentunya mereka akan ambil harga tengah tsb, yg 

terpenting mereka masih tetap cuan dan retailer akan gigit jari.

Apalagi DOWJ merahnya sangat tinggi hari ini.

Bila retailer tak percaya, maka lihat saja nanti.






RE: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Si Botak kebanyakan ngomong sih...

US STOCKS-Indexes tumble 2 percent after Bernanke comments   
15 Juli 2008 21:15:24 (GMT+07:00) 
Provided by: Reuters News

NEW YORK, July 15 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks slid as much as 2 percent on
Tuesday after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said a weakening housing
market, tighter credit and rising oil prices threaten the economy. 

The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI dropped 215.11 points, or 1.95
percent, to 10,840.08, while the Standard  Poor's 500 Index .SPX slid
25.67 points, or 2.09 percent, to 1,202.63. The Nasdaq Composite Index
.IXIC shed 41.88 points, or 1.89 percent, to 2,170.99. 

(Reporting by Ellis Mnyandu, Editing by Kenneth Barry) 


-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rei
Sent: 15 Juli 2008 21:26
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

Stocks are getting knocked lower again as investors grapple with 
escalating instability in the financial sector...

Mana mungkin sektor finance/banking memimpin comeback-nya bursa? 
Impossible...not now at least...hehe, boro2 bursa bisa comeback. 
Mundur melulu...







Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Eko Nurcahyono

Trus baiknya gimana kl dah nyangkut dalam bener ..

Cut loss with very huge loss 
or forgeted, keep it for 3 years and hope it will be rises again ?

Thanks,

nextnubienyangkuters.com

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:39 AM











Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, bank2 pada ambruk.

Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, sulistyo_winarto

sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote:



 

 Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat yang tua 

 nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam dari yang

 pasti nyangkut

 

 The ultimate sell signal: Part II

 

 Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?

 

 Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008

 

 SEATTLE  -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year to be

 investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, parsing the

 fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about chronic

 economic crises.

 

 The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its division

 of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, by 40%

 this year. The division currently has 233 employees. Considering that

 only three banks failed last year, why do they need more examiners?

 

 For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired employees with

 experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, it's not

 just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and savings

 and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their assets.

 

 This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, who set

 upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as much of

 the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full

 assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for uninsured

 depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured deposits,

 probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk about it,

 and we'll send you some more later.

 

 This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There probably will

 be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead of them.

 The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down from 136

 problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's three

 failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC expects to have

 a busy year.

 

 The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank accounts to

 insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-only

 money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions (even banks)

 and maybe short-term Treasury bills.

 

 I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put a lot of

 pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any questionable

 securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks don't

 have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,

 fiduciary responsibility.  I am also sure the SEC has made its

 expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.

 

 First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government

 Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on his term.

 See full story.



http://www.marketwa tch.com/News/ Story/ultimate- sell-signal/ story.aspx? g\

 uid=%7BD566230C% 2DF9D9%2D4384% 2DB64E%2DE9B480D 2B23F%7D

 

 Now the FDIC is staffing up. It's time to rethink your investments.






  




 

















  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Irawan Sudarman
of course

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Eko Nurcahyono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 Trus baiknya gimana kl dah nyangkut dalam bener ..

 Cut loss with very huge loss
 or forgeted, keep it for 3 years and hope it will be rises again ?

 Thanks,

 nextnubienyangkuters.com

 --- On *Tue, 7/15/08, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED]*wrote:

 From: sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:39 AM

  Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, bank2 pada ambruk.
 Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 sulistyo_winarto
 sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote:
 
 
  Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat yang tua 
  nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam dari yang
  pasti nyangkut
 
  The ultimate sell signal: Part II
 
  Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?
 
  Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008
 
  SEATTLE -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year to be
  investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, parsing the
  fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about chronic
  economic crises.
 
  The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its division
  of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, by 40%
  this year. The division currently has 233 employees. Considering that
  only three banks failed last year, why do they need more examiners?
 
  For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired employees with
  experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, it's not
  just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and savings
  and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their assets.
 
  This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, who set
  upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as much of
  the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full
  assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for uninsured
  depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured deposits,
  probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk about it,
  and we'll send you some more later.
 
  This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There probably will
  be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead of them.
  The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down from 136
  problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's three
  failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC expects to have
  a busy year.
 
  The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank accounts to
  insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-only
  money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions (even banks)
  and maybe short-term Treasury bills.
 
  I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put a lot of
  pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any questionable
  securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks don't
  have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,
  fiduciary responsibility.  I am also sure the SEC has made its
  expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.
 
  First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government
  Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on his term.
  See full story.
 
 http://www.marketwa tch.com/News/ Story/ultimate- sell-signal/
 story.aspx? g\
  http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/ultimate-sell-signal/story.aspx?g
 uid=%7BD566230C% 2DF9D9%2D4384% 2DB64E%2DE9B480D 2B23F%7D
 
  Now the FDIC is staffing up. It's time to rethink your investments.
 


  



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, andy lou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Tenang paling nanti closed nya + dikit...





Ami..

tuh udah mulai rebound  [:)]



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik giek Doang
Tutup Laptop Turu Angler Mimpi Indah Bangun Jam 03 melihat angka 12025
mimpi-yuk . com



- Pesan Asli 
Dari: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Selasa, 15 Juli, 2008 02:47:35
Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...


Si Botak kebanyakan ngomong sih...

US STOCKS-Indexes tumble 2 percent after Bernanke comments 
15 Juli 2008 21:15:24 (GMT+07:00) 
Provided by: Reuters News

NEW YORK, July 15 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks slid as much as 2 percent on
Tuesday after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said a weakening housing
market, tighter credit and rising oil prices threaten the economy. 

The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI dropped 215.11 points, or 1.95
percent, to 10,840.08, while the Standard  Poor's 500 Index .SPX slid
25.67 points, or 2.09 percent, to 1,202.63. The Nasdaq Composite Index
.IXIC shed 41.88 points, or 1.89 percent, to 2,170.99. 

(Reporting by Ellis Mnyandu, Editing by Kenneth Barry) 


-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of Rei
Sent: 15 Juli 2008 21:26
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

Stocks are getting knocked lower again as investors grapple with 
escalating instability in the financial sector...

Mana mungkin sektor finance/banking memimpin comeback-nya bursa? 
Impossible.. .not now at least...hehe, boro2 bursa bisa comeback. 
Mundur melulu...

 


  
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] AALI

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Tambahan., kalau MACD line SLIP keatas ., BIASANYA harga akan naik lbh
kenceng dan bikin higer high., dgn catatan industrinya mendukung, dan
General Market bergerak searah..., let's hope.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: 15 Juli 2008 21:35
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] AALI

 

Sorry pak baru sempet ngintipin AALI.., 

 

Sebenernya bbrp waktu lalu ada pola cakep.., dan sdh breakout dengan
validitas yg tidak diragukan., under normal condition hrsnya harga bisa
langsung terbang., tapi sayang tampaknya pola tsb FAIL.., penyebabnya
MUNGKIN karena; General Market yg BERLAWANAN dengan arah breakout..,
pengaruh industry-nya yg tidak mendukung., dan ada Overhead Resistance yg
cukup kuat.

 

Now.., MACD crossing centerline (it's a sell signal) dan harga mulai bikin
lower low, serta mencoba menembus trend line., meskipun volume relative
kecil, tapi HATI-HATI aja., Goodluck.

 

BTW, 21.35 Wib.., DOW   -193., ampun dah..

 

JsxTrader

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of Prasetyo, Hani
Sent: 14 Juli 2008 15:17
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI

 

Pak Tasrul / JSX Trader.. Boleh dishare grafiknya pak.

 

 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik PyRiEL PyRiEL
wooowww kayak roller coaster yah pak boyz...
bener2 gila!!!
DJI lowest??
semoga membaik yah pak boyz.. jantungan juga neeh...

2008/7/15 boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, andy lou [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Tenang paling nanti closed nya + dikit...
 




 Ami..

 tuh udah mulai rebound [image: :)]
  



[obrolan-bandar] Re: JUAL ADARO ?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik t_bumi
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lindt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Setuju. Ati2 adaro. Danatama bo !
 
 
 sip : tbumi

Cara pembagian jatah saham IPO menurut kami juga sangat tak adil.

Asing dan pemodal besar dpt jatah dlm persentase jauh lebih 

besar dari retailer. 

Jadi ini berarti asing dan pemodal besar akan bisa menjebak

retailer di market. Bila mereka kompak dan memborong saham di

market, tentu nanti retailer akan mengikuti mereka. Begitu harga

tembus tertinggi, retailer akan gigit jari karena mereka pasti akan

buang barang.





Re: [obrolan-bandar] 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 tahun....

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Dean Earwicker
Tahun 2014 anak saya yang pertama baru umur 10 tahun. She can wait even
until her 17th birthday (bagi dua sama mamanya wew). Lagipula kan gak cuma
ANTM yang turun, memang seluruh dunia lagi bearish kecuali saham batu bara
(tapi bbrp hari ini juga koreksi)

Masa iya bearish seumur hidup. Tapi kalau memang gak tahan menunggu ya kan
mau dijual juga gak ada yang larang. Tapi saya akui saham-saham mining
memang MANTAB buat swing trading, karena ayunannya panjang.

Dow lagi bikin kaki panjang ye. Gimana tuh artinya secara TA?

Regards,
DE

Pada 14 Juli 2008 22:40, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

  ayoooada yg sinis gak ama ANTM ?
 yang mau jadiin ANTM jadi bungkus COMBROsilaken
 bagi yang PRO ANTMditunggu jawabannya
 SETUBUH ato SETUJU ??

 Price Adjusted setelah SS...
 2003 : close 385, 234 % dari lowest
 2004 : close 345, 81 % dari lowest
 2005 : close 715, 107 % dari lowest
 2006 : close 1600, 122 % dari lowest
 2007 : close 4475, 176 % dari lowest
 2008 : 2850 lowestkasih deh 100 % saja = 5700 akhir taun

 capek deh ama ANTM.kayak kutu kupret saja nih saham...
 2009 : 12.000
 2010 : 24.000
 2011 : 48.000
 2012 : 80.000
 2013 : 160.000
 2014 : baru di sini nih 200.000 nya

 hmm...masih lama juga yapasti akan sangat BORING atau jangan2 TIDAK
 TERJADI

 bisa ga ya ? ditunggu jawabannya Pak DE, Pak Rei, Pak Pak an yg lain.
 atau bahkan Neng Elainehahahaha...
 



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
Kerjaannya pak Odink nih yg suka goreng Dow Jones, hehehe...
Pantes udah lama gak nongol di OB, ternyata.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, PyRiEL PyRiEL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wooowww kayak roller coaster yah pak boyz...
 bener2 gila!!!
 DJI lowest??
 semoga membaik yah pak boyz.. jantungan juga neeh...

 2008/7/15 boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, andy lou akhmad_y2000@
  wrote:
  
   Tenang paling nanti closed nya + dikit...
  
 
 
 
 
  Ami..
 
  tuh udah mulai rebound [image: :)]
 
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik sulistyo_winarto
Pak Eko, kalo menurut sesepuh  Senior OB, kita dalam bearsih jadi
udah nggak jauh dari dasar. Optimis ! paling2 tutup LT / computer
tunggu 0,5 tahun lagi. Sektor riil Indo masih OK koq. Wong sampe nolak
order nih. Salam sesama nyangkuter 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eko Nurcahyono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 Trus baiknya gimana kl dah nyangkut dalam bener ..
 
 Cut loss with very huge loss 
 or forgeted, keep it for 3 years and hope it will be rises again ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 nextnubienyangkuters.com
 
 --- On Tue, 7/15/08, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:39 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, bank2
pada ambruk.
 
 Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, sulistyo_winarto
 
 sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
  Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat yang
tua 
 
  nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam dari yang
 
  pasti nyangkut
 
  
 
  The ultimate sell signal: Part II
 
  
 
  Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?
 
  
 
  Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008
 
  
 
  SEATTLE  -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year to be
 
  investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, parsing the
 
  fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about chronic
 
  economic crises.
 
  
 
  The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its
division
 
  of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, by 40%
 
  this year. The division currently has 233 employees. Considering that
 
  only three banks failed last year, why do they need more examiners?
 
  
 
  For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired employees with
 
  experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, it's not
 
  just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and savings
 
  and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their assets.
 
  
 
  This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, who set
 
  upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as much of
 
  the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full
 
  assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for uninsured
 
  depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured deposits,
 
  probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk about it,
 
  and we'll send you some more later.
 
  
 
  This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There
probably will
 
  be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead of them.
 
  The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down
from 136
 
  problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's three
 
  failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC expects to
have
 
  a busy year.
 
  
 
  The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank accounts to
 
  insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-only
 
  money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions (even
banks)
 
  and maybe short-term Treasury bills.
 
  
 
  I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put a lot of
 
  pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any questionable
 
  securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks don't
 
  have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,
 
  fiduciary responsibility.  I am also sure the SEC has made its
 
  expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.
 
  
 
  First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government
 
  Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on his term.
 
  See full story.
 
 
 
 http://www.marketwa tch.com/News/ Story/ultimate- sell-signal/
story.aspx? g\
 
  uid=%7BD566230C% 2DF9D9%2D4384% 2DB64E%2DE9B480D 2B23F%7D
 
  
 
  Now the FDIC is staffing up. It's time to rethink your investments.
 
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Bernie
Diikuti anjloknya crude oil tinggal $138,gantian sektor energy yang tertekan

On 7/15/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, andy lou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tenang paling nanti closed nya + dikit...
 




 Ami..

 tuh udah mulai rebound [image: :)]
 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Hendra Susanto
Coba ditutup terus smp 1 minggu pak, buka lagi udah 13.025..
tunggu 1 bulan lagi, baru dibuka malah bisa 14.500... sapa tau ^_^
amieenn de...




2008/7/15 giek Doang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Tutup Laptop Turu Angler Mimpi Indah Bangun Jam 03 melihat angka 12025

 *mimpi-yuk . com*


 - Pesan Asli 
 Dari: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Terkirim: Selasa, 15 Juli, 2008 02:47:35
 Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

  Si Botak kebanyakan ngomong sih...

 US STOCKS-Indexes tumble 2 percent after Bernanke comments
 15 Juli 2008 21:15:24 (GMT+07:00)
 Provided by: Reuters News

 NEW YORK, July 15 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks slid as much as 2 percent on
 Tuesday after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said a weakening
 housing
 market, tighter credit and rising oil prices threaten the economy.

 The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI dropped 215.11 points, or 1.95
 percent, to 10,840.08, while the Standard  Poor's 500 Index .SPX slid
 25.67 points, or 2.09 percent, to 1,202.63. The Nasdaq Composite Index
 .IXIC shed 41.88 points, or 1.89 percent, to 2,170.99.

 (Reporting by Ellis Mnyandu, Editing by Kenneth Barry)


 -Original Message-
 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
 obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com[mailto:obrolan-bandar@
 yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Rei
 Sent: 15 Juli 2008 21:26
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Dow minus 200 point lagi...

 Stocks are getting knocked lower again as investors grapple with
 escalating instability in the financial sector...

 Mana mungkin sektor finance/banking memimpin comeback-nya bursa?
 Impossible.. .not now at least...hehe, boro2 bursa bisa comeback.
 Mundur melulu...


 --
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 @rocketmail. br Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
 



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JUAL ADARO ?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Lindt
Ga jg. Bandar yg buang barang. Investor gede yg beli sahamnya di lock up 8 bl.


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-Original Message-
From: t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:09:31 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: JUAL ADARO ?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Lindt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Setuju. Ati2 adaro. Danatama bo !
 
 
 sip : tbumi

Cara pembagian jatah saham IPO menurut kami juga sangat tak adil.

Asing dan pemodal besar dpt jatah dlm persentase jauh lebih 

besar dari retailer. 

Jadi ini berarti asing dan pemodal besar akan bisa menjebak

retailer di market. Bila mereka kompak dan memborong saham di

market, tentu nanti retailer akan mengikuti mereka. Begitu harga

tembus tertinggi, retailer akan gigit jari karena mereka pasti akan

buang barang.






[obrolan-bandar] Re: 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 tahun....

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik icchanks
Mudah2an closenya ntar diatas 11 rb, besok bisa ijo neh, and miss El
will be dancing...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Dean Earwicker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tahun 2014 anak saya yang pertama baru umur 10 tahun. She can wait even
 until her 17th birthday (bagi dua sama mamanya wew). Lagipula kan
gak cuma
 ANTM yang turun, memang seluruh dunia lagi bearish kecuali saham
batu bara
 (tapi bbrp hari ini juga koreksi)
 
 Masa iya bearish seumur hidup. Tapi kalau memang gak tahan menunggu
ya kan
 mau dijual juga gak ada yang larang. Tapi saya akui saham-saham mining
 memang MANTAB buat swing trading, karena ayunannya panjang.
 
 Dow lagi bikin kaki panjang ye. Gimana tuh artinya secara TA?
 
 Regards,
 DE
 
 Pada 14 Juli 2008 22:40, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
 
   ayoooada yg sinis gak ama ANTM ?
  yang mau jadiin ANTM jadi bungkus COMBROsilaken
  bagi yang PRO ANTMditunggu jawabannya
  SETUBUH ato SETUJU ??
 
  Price Adjusted setelah SS...
  2003 : close 385, 234 % dari lowest
  2004 : close 345, 81 % dari lowest
  2005 : close 715, 107 % dari lowest
  2006 : close 1600, 122 % dari lowest
  2007 : close 4475, 176 % dari lowest
  2008 : 2850 lowestkasih deh 100 % saja = 5700 akhir taun
 
  capek deh ama ANTM.kayak kutu kupret saja nih saham...
  2009 : 12.000
  2010 : 24.000
  2011 : 48.000
  2012 : 80.000
  2013 : 160.000
  2014 : baru di sini nih 200.000 nya
 
  hmm...masih lama juga yapasti akan sangat BORING atau jangan2
TIDAK
  TERJADI
 
  bisa ga ya ? ditunggu jawabannya Pak DE, Pak Rei, Pak Pak an yg
lain.
  atau bahkan Neng Elainehahahaha...
  
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Lindt
Lupain. Ntar kalo ada duit main lagi. 
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-Original Message-
From: Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:06:26 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update


of course

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Eko Nurcahyono [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 Trus baiknya gimana kl dah nyangkut dalam bener ..

 Cut loss with very huge loss
 or forgeted, keep it for 3 years and hope it will be rises again ?

 Thanks,

 nextnubienyangkuters.com

 --- On *Tue, 7/15/08, sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED]*wrote:

 From: sulistyo_winarto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:39 AM

  Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, bank2 pada ambruk.
 Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 sulistyo_winarto
 sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote:
 
 
  Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat yang tua 
  nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam dari yang
  pasti nyangkut
 
  The ultimate sell signal: Part II
 
  Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?
 
  Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008
 
  SEATTLE -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year to be
  investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, parsing the
  fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about chronic
  economic crises.
 
  The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its division
  of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, by 40%
  this year. The division currently has 233 employees. Considering that
  only three banks failed last year, why do they need more examiners?
 
  For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired employees with
  experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, it's not
  just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and savings
  and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their assets.
 
  This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, who set
  upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as much of
  the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full
  assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for uninsured
  depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured deposits,
  probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk about it,
  and we'll send you some more later.
 
  This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There probably will
  be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead of them.
  The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down from 136
  problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's three
  failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC expects to have
  a busy year.
 
  The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank accounts to
  insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-only
  money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions (even banks)
  and maybe short-term Treasury bills.
 
  I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put a lot of
  pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any questionable
  securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks don't
  have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,
  fiduciary responsibility.  I am also sure the SEC has made its
  expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.
 
  First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government
  Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on his term.
  See full story.
 
 http://www.marketwa tch.com/News/ Story/ultimate- sell-signal/
 story.aspx? g\
  http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/ultimate-sell-signal/story.aspx?g
 uid=%7BD566230C% 2DF9D9%2D4384% 2DB64E%2DE9B480D 2B23F%7D
 
  Now the FDIC is staffing up. It's time to rethink your investments.
 


  




[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Petualang Saham
Hayo Bro tarik terus DOW...
Biar bagian Pak Odink guyur OIL-nya...
He.. he.. he..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kuat sampe tutup ngga nih.., kalo kuat, hmmm..  candle-nya bisa 'kembar'
 empat tuh.., 
 
  
 
  
 
 dow jam 22.GIF
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of PyRiEL PyRiEL
 Sent: 15 Juli 2008 22:09
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg
-39 doang
 
  
 
 wooowww kayak roller coaster yah pak boyz...
 bener2 gila!!!
 DJI lowest??
 semoga membaik yah pak boyz.. jantungan juga neeh...
 
 2008/7/15 boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, andy lou akhmad_y2000@ wrote:
 
  Tenang paling nanti closed nya + dikit...
  
 
 
 
 
 Ami..
 
 tuh udah mulai rebound Error! Filename not specified.
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] kapan anda berkenalan dengan IHSG?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Lindt
Rugi dikit aja udah syukur. Tp ilmunya banyak th ini. Sekolahnya mahal ya. 


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Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:17:06 
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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] kapan anda berkenalan dengan IHSG?


Kalo bisa lewat taon ini 'aja dg selamat (tentunya - dilihat dr hasilnya,
baek dlm % maupun angka nominalnya) - saya kira termasup hebat banget, Pak
- sejak akhir taon yl 'ampe sekarang ini banyak banget crash-nya scr
bertubi2, berkali2

Happy Chuan,

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 *awal tahun 2004 (berarti masih junior belum
 berpengalaman di bear market karena dari awal 2004
 sampai akhir tahun 2007 indeksnya naik terus), kalo
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 tahun....

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik PyRiEL PyRiEL
saatnya belajar seperti pak DE dan REI..
LT dan positive thinking..


2008/7/15 icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Mudah2an closenya ntar diatas 11 rb, besok bisa ijo neh, and miss El
 will be dancing...

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Dean Earwicker

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Tahun 2014 anak saya yang pertama baru umur 10 tahun. She can wait even
  until her 17th birthday (bagi dua sama mamanya wew). Lagipula kan
 gak cuma
  ANTM yang turun, memang seluruh dunia lagi bearish kecuali saham
 batu bara
  (tapi bbrp hari ini juga koreksi)
 
  Masa iya bearish seumur hidup. Tapi kalau memang gak tahan menunggu
 ya kan
  mau dijual juga gak ada yang larang. Tapi saya akui saham-saham mining
  memang MANTAB buat swing trading, karena ayunannya panjang.
 
  Dow lagi bikin kaki panjang ye. Gimana tuh artinya secara TA?
 
  Regards,
  DE
 
  Pada 14 Juli 2008 22:40, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
 
   ayoooada yg sinis gak ama ANTM ?
   yang mau jadiin ANTM jadi bungkus COMBROsilaken
   bagi yang PRO ANTMditunggu jawabannya
   SETUBUH ato SETUJU ??
  
   Price Adjusted setelah SS...
   2003 : close 385, 234 % dari lowest
   2004 : close 345, 81 % dari lowest
   2005 : close 715, 107 % dari lowest
   2006 : close 1600, 122 % dari lowest
   2007 : close 4475, 176 % dari lowest
   2008 : 2850 lowestkasih deh 100 % saja = 5700 akhir taun
  
   capek deh ama ANTM.kayak kutu kupret saja nih saham...
   2009 : 12.000
   2010 : 24.000
   2011 : 48.000
   2012 : 80.000
   2013 : 160.000
   2014 : baru di sini nih 200.000 nya
  
   hmm...masih lama juga yapasti akan sangat BORING atau jangan2
 TIDAK
   TERJADI
  
   bisa ga ya ? ditunggu jawabannya Pak DE, Pak Rei, Pak Pak an yg
 lain.
   atau bahkan Neng Elainehahahaha...
  
  
 

  



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik t_bumi
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 sip : tbumi

Resesi mortagage dan faktor minyak sdh banyak menyebar

ke berbagai sektor. Apa ini petanda dari awal kebangkrutan ekonomi

USA ? 



[obrolan-bandar] oil 137 nymex

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Stevie Lie
mudah2an turun lebih banyak...amin


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik icchanks
Wah...kayaknya banyak suhu yang begadang liatin Dow neh, semua pada
berdebar harap Dow bisa hijau, apakah karena besok Adaro akan
beraksi?? Karena kalau Dow minus banyak aksinya bakal gagal atau
ditunda neh, hm...banyak yang pegang adaro yah?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ 
 wrote:
 
  sip : tbumi
 
 Resesi mortagage dan faktor minyak sdh banyak menyebar
 
 ke berbagai sektor. Apa ini petanda dari awal kebangkrutan ekonomi
 
 USA ?





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
Biarin aja si Botak yg mikirin pak.., they will find the way out lah..

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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

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wrote:

 sip : tbumi

Resesi mortagage dan faktor minyak sdh banyak menyebar

ke berbagai sektor. Apa ini petanda dari awal kebangkrutan ekonomi

USA ? 




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Iya neh..good observation pak

Biasanya sepi nih kalau malam2

--- On Tue, 15/7/08, icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 10:56 PM











Wah...kayaknya banyak suhu yang begadang liatin Dow neh, semua pada

berdebar harap Dow bisa hijau, apakah karena besok Adaro akan

beraksi?? Karena kalau Dow minus banyak aksinya bakal gagal atau

ditunda neh, hm...banyak yang pegang adaro yah?



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ 

 wrote:

 

  sip : tbumi

 

 Resesi mortagage dan faktor minyak sdh banyak menyebar

 

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik jos_martino
Jangan pesimis dulu bung sulis,
Minyak jatuh tuh ke $136, DOW rebound

Optimis sajalah


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sulistyo_winarto 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pak Eko, kalo menurut sesepuh  Senior OB, kita dalam bearsih 
jadi
 udah nggak jauh dari dasar. Optimis ! paling2 tutup LT / computer
 tunggu 0,5 tahun lagi. Sektor riil Indo masih OK koq. Wong sampe 
nolak
 order nih. Salam sesama nyangkuter 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eko Nurcahyono eko_dampit@
 wrote:
 
  
  Trus baiknya gimana kl dah nyangkut dalam bener ..
  
  Cut loss with very huge loss 
  or forgeted, keep it for 3 years and hope it will be rises 
again ?
  
  Thanks,
  
  nextnubienyangkuters.com
  
  --- On Tue, 7/15/08, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ wrote:
  From: sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART 
III..update
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:39 AM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, 
bank2
 pada ambruk.
  
  Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS
  
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, sulistyo_winarto
  
  sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote:
  
  
  
   
  
   Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat 
yang
 tua 
  
   nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam 
dari yang
  
   pasti nyangkut
  
   
  
   The ultimate sell signal: Part II
  
   
  
   Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?
  
   
  
   Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008
  
   
  
   SEATTLE  -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year 
to be
  
   investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, 
parsing the
  
   fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about 
chronic
  
   economic crises.
  
   
  
   The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its
 division
  
   of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, 
by 40%
  
   this year. The division currently has 233 employees. 
Considering that
  
   only three banks failed last year, why do they need more 
examiners?
  
   
  
   For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired 
employees with
  
   experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, 
it's not
  
   just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and 
savings
  
   and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their 
assets.
  
   
  
   This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, 
who set
  
   upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as 
much of
  
   the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full
  
   assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for 
uninsured
  
   depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured 
deposits,
  
   probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk 
about it,
  
   and we'll send you some more later.
  
   
  
   This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There
 probably will
  
   be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead 
of them.
  
   The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down
 from 136
  
   problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's 
three
  
   failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC 
expects to
 have
  
   a busy year.
  
   
  
   The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank 
accounts to
  
   insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-
only
  
   money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions 
(even
 banks)
  
   and maybe short-term Treasury bills.
  
   
  
   I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put 
a lot of
  
   pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any 
questionable
  
   securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks 
don't
  
   have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,
  
   fiduciary responsibility.  I am also sure the SEC has made 
its
  
   expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.
  
   
  
   First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government
  
   Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on 
his term.
  
   See full story.
  
  
  
  http://www.marketwa tch.com/News/ Story/ultimate- sell-signal/
 story.aspx? g\
  
   uid=%7BD566230C% 2DF9D9%2D4384% 2DB64E%2DE9B480D 2B23F%7D
  
   
  
   Now the FDIC is staffing up. It's time to rethink your 
investments.
  
  
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: FPNI.MLPL (sakitnya ypas) - Forget it about YPAS

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Vera
Benar

Mungkin lbh baik pandang2 an sama saham lain jgn pandang2 an sama
YPAS. Forget it about this stock.

Uang sekolah nya mahal...

Rgds,
Vera


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Teman teman yang mau ambil ypas, sebaiknya mengurungkan niat ini
saya abis cl sakit deh rasanya tapi mendingan gitu daripada lama lama
sampai 200, besok MLPL tuh udah mau berangkat cari penumpang, termasuk
fpninya pak TOM saya udah collect kok pak tapi tunggu konfirmasi dulu
kalo udah mau berangkat jadinya saya dapetnya di 270, targetnya ke brp
ya pak ?





Re: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik freez z
tandanya u kurang pengalaman dan mental u belum terlatih. kalau indeks
lagi down tren lebih baik berhenti trading dulu.apa lagi utk pemula
yang skil nya masih rendah. lebih baik trading ikut tren aja, masuk
saat indeks lagi bullis, keluar saat indeks lagi bearish. cara begini
paling aman.jangan takut ketinggalan kereta karena selama bursa buka
pasti ada saham yang akan naik dan turun.

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH
To: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:55 AM














om bandar BEI, shorter BEI, pemain 
besar BEI, para senior BEI
per hari ini gw ngaku NYERAH deh ama BURSA 
GILAEDAN. ...
pertama kali masuk bursa APRIL 
2007dikasih ENAK ENAK MULU
crash agst 2007 TIDAK terasaCrash jan 2008 
mulai BERASA...
march madness april massacre june market GOBLOK 
mulai bikin 
MABOK KEPAYANG skr JULY ? wew
 
TONIGHT WE DIE IN 
HELLL. . 
 
biasanya kalo retail kecil spt saya nyerahtanda 
nya apa ya ???

  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik icchanks
Udah keliatan besok arahnya ADARO, pantas banyak yang dak kebagian..
Mudah2an besok masih bisa tik tok..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Iya neh..good observation pak
 
 Biasanya sepi nih kalau malam2
 
 --- On Tue, 15/7/08, icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 10:56 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Wah...kayaknya banyak suhu yang begadang liatin Dow neh,
semua pada
 
 berdebar harap Dow bisa hijau, apakah karena besok Adaro akan
 
 beraksi?? Karena kalau Dow minus banyak aksinya bakal gagal atau
 
 ditunda neh, hm...banyak yang pegang adaro yah?
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ 
 
  wrote:
 
  
 
   sip : tbumi
 
  
 
  Resesi mortagage dan faktor minyak sdh banyak menyebar
 
  
 
  ke berbagai sektor. Apa ini petanda dari awal kebangkrutan ekonomi
 
  
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik freez z
tandanya u kurang pengalaman dan mental u belum terlatih. kalau indeks
lagi down tren lebih baik berhenti trading dulu.apa lagi utk pemula
yang skil nya masih rendah. lebih baik trading ikut tren aja, masuk
saat indeks lagi bullis, keluar saat indeks lagi bearish. cara begini
paling aman.jangan takut ketinggalan kereta karena selama bursa buka
pasti ada saham yang akan naik dan turun.   Kalau u mengaku
menyerah, bandar berkata dalam hati Baru pemanasan udah nyerah , apa
lagi kalau udah serius
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH
To: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:55 AM














om bandar BEI, shorter BEI, pemain 
besar BEI, para senior BEI
per hari ini gw ngaku NYERAH deh ama BURSA 
GILAEDAN. ...
pertama kali masuk bursa APRIL 
2007dikasih ENAK ENAK MULU
crash agst 2007 TIDAK terasaCrash jan 2008 
mulai BERASA...
march madness april massacre june market GOBLOK 
mulai bikin 
MABOK KEPAYANG skr JULY ? wew
 
TONIGHT WE DIE IN 
HELLL. . 
 
biasanya kalo retail kecil spt saya nyerahtanda 
nya apa ya ???

  




 

















  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik rudd haas
I feel we already near the bottom
 
Let see, if most of trader /investor fell fear..., it's the best time to Entry/ 
BUY
masa gara2 Freeddie and fannie, semua harus jual saham nya
dont forget, Emiten di BEI sebentar lagi akan release result H1 nya
saya yakin akan banyak yang di atas expectasi, terutama Coal dan CPO
 
 


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From: Lindt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:24 PM






Lupain. Ntar kalo ada duit main lagi. 
Sent from my BlackBerry®
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From: Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:06:26 +0700
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update




of course


On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Eko Nurcahyono [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:











Trus baiknya gimana kl dah nyangkut dalam bener ..

Cut loss with very huge loss 
or forgeted, keep it for 3 years and hope it will be rises again ?

Thanks,

nextnubienyangkuter s.com


--- On Tue, 7/15/08, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ yahoo.co. id wrote:


From: sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ yahoo.co. id

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:39 AM







Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, bank2 pada ambruk.
Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, sulistyo_winarto
sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote:

 
 Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat yang tua 
 nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam dari yang
 pasti nyangkut
 
 The ultimate sell signal: Part II
 
 Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?
 
 Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008
 
 SEATTLE -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year to be
 investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, parsing the
 fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about chronic
 economic crises.
 
 The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its division
 of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, by 40%
 this year. The division currently has 233 employees. Considering that
 only three banks failed last year, why do they need more examiners?
 
 For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired employees with
 experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, it's not
 just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and savings
 and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their assets.
 
 This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, who set
 upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as much of
 the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full
 assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for uninsured
 depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured deposits,
 probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk about it,
 and we'll send you some more later.
 
 This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There probably will
 be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead of them.
 The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down from 136
 problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's three
 failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC expects to have
 a busy year.
 
 The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank accounts to
 insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-only
 money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions (even banks)
 and maybe short-term Treasury bills.
 
 I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put a lot of
 pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any questionable
 securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks don't
 have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,
 fiduciary responsibility.  I am also sure the SEC has made its
 expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.
 
 First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government
 Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on his term.
 See full story.

http://www.marketwa tch.com/News/ Story/ultimate- sell-signal/ story.aspx? g\
 uid=%7BD566230C% 2DF9D9%2D4384% 2DB64E%2DE9B480D 2B23F%7D

 
 Now the FDIC is staffing up. It's time to rethink your investments.




 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik PyRiEL PyRiEL
wo 22
ijokah? sumprit... ajaib banget dow hari ini hihihi
apakah berarti lowest udah keliatan?
karena membalnya cepet banget..
atau, cuma karena turunnya harga minyak?

2008/7/15 Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Iya neh..good observation pak

 Biasanya sepi nih kalau malam2

 --- On *Tue, 15/7/08, icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 From: icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 10:56 PM

  Wah...kayaknya banyak suhu yang begadang liatin Dow neh, semua pada
 berdebar harap Dow bisa hijau, apakah karena besok Adaro akan
 beraksi?? Karena kalau Dow minus banyak aksinya bakal gagal atau
 ditunda neh, hm...banyak yang pegang adaro yah?

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 JsxTrader jsxtrader@
  wrote:
  
   sip : tbumi
 
  Resesi mortagage dan faktor minyak sdh banyak menyebar
 
  ke berbagai sektor. Apa ini petanda dari awal kebangkrutan ekonomi
 
  USA ?
 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39 doang

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik icchanks
Karen besok Adaro IPO kali yehh.. heheh

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, PyRiEL PyRiEL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wo 22
 ijokah? sumprit... ajaib banget dow hari ini hihihi
 apakah berarti lowest udah keliatan?
 karena membalnya cepet banget..
 atau, cuma karena turunnya harga minyak?
 
 2008/7/15 Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
Iya neh..good observation pak
 
  Biasanya sepi nih kalau malam2
 
  --- On *Tue, 15/7/08, icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  From: icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg -39
doang
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 10:56 PM
 
   Wah...kayaknya banyak suhu yang begadang liatin Dow neh, semua pada
  berdebar harap Dow bisa hijau, apakah karena besok Adaro akan
  beraksi?? Karena kalau Dow minus banyak aksinya bakal gagal atau
  ditunda neh, hm...banyak yang pegang adaro yah?
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
  t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote:
  
   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups.
comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
  JsxTrader jsxtrader@
   wrote:
   
sip : tbumi
  
   Resesi mortagage dan faktor minyak sdh banyak menyebar
  
   ke berbagai sektor. Apa ini petanda dari awal kebangkrutan ekonomi
  
   USA ?
  
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah udah IJO

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, PyRiEL PyRiEL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wo 22
 ijokah? sumprit... ajaib banget dow hari ini hihihi
 apakah berarti lowest udah keliatan?
 karena membalnya cepet banget..
 atau, cuma karena turunnya harga minyak?



mudah-2an sampe penutupan




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah udah IJO

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik andy lou
Tenang tutup diatas 11100..

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah udah IJO
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:33 PM







--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PyRiEL PyRiEL
pyriel.pyriel@ ... wrote:

 wo 22
 ijokah? sumprit... ajaib banget dow hari ini hihihi
 apakah berarti lowest udah keliatan?
 karena membalnya cepet banget..
 atau, cuma karena turunnya harga minyak?


mudah-2an sampe penutupan

 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah udah IJO

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik PyRiEL PyRiEL
IJOO.
tadi sapa yang bilang tutup IJO??
sumprit dukunnya kuat

2008/7/15 andy lou [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   Tenang tutup diatas 11100..

 --- On *Tue, 7/15/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah udah
 IJO
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:33 PM


 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 PyRiEL PyRiEL
 pyriel.pyriel@ ... wrote:
 
  wo 22
  ijokah? sumprit... ajaib banget dow hari ini hihihi
  apakah berarti lowest udah keliatan?
  karena membalnya cepet banget..
  atau, cuma karena turunnya harga minyak?
 

 mudah-2an sampe penutupan


  



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah udah IJO

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik andy lou
psst jangan bilang2 :-D

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, PyRiEL PyRiEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: PyRiEL PyRiEL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah udah 
IJO
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:42 PM







IJO O.
tadi sapa yang bilang tutup IJO??
sumprit dukunnya kuat


2008/7/15 andy lou akhmad_y2000@ yahoo.com:










Tenang tutup diatas 11100... ...

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg wrote:

From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] com.sg
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah udah IJO
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:33 PM






--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, PyRiEL PyRiEL
pyriel.pyriel@ ... wrote:

 wo 22
 ijokah? sumprit... ajaib banget dow hari ini hihihi
 apakah berarti lowest udah keliatan?
 karena membalnya cepet banget..
 atau, cuma karena turunnya harga minyak?


mudah-2an sampe penutupan



 














  

[obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
go girl..

hehehe,




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
boleh tetap minta fotonya anyway?? he..he..
 


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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 23:46:09
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

go girl..

hehehe,





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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 boleh tetap minta fotonya anyway?? he..he..
 Â


Gak boleh !




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik andy lou
Ngapain minta foto Elaine dia kan COwok, cuma user id nya aja di buat nama cewek
hahahahahahaha

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:52 PM






--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote:

 boleh tetap minta fotonya anyway?? he..he..
 Â


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
wakakakakaka
btw.., pls see 5 minute chart..., hs valid ngga?  any target? comment dong 
bro..

 
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 boleh tetap minta fotonya anyway?? he..he..
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wakakakakaka
 btw.., pls see 5 minute chart..., hs valid ngga?  any target?
comment dong bro..



Maksud ente, inverted HS?
Dalam 5Minute chart, ane lihat belum terbentuk.


Salam,





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik JsxTrader
yup..., inverted hs.., kalo valid cakep dah...,
Ok boss.. tidur dulu ah,  mdh2an ngga ada yg aneh2 lagi... good night everyone. 
 Salam,
JsxTrader



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 wakakakakaka
 btw.., pls see 5 minute chart..., hs valid ngga?  any target?
comment dong bro..



Maksud ente, inverted HS?
Dalam 5Minute chart, ane lihat belum terbentuk.


Salam,






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Re: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Bill Jone
Embah gak muncul2 sptnya embah pegang cash dan sedikit mungkin trading di
banking , prediksi embah selalu jitu., hampir gak ada yg
meleset,


Embah still the best.

cuan dikit..., harusnya lari terus ambil trus lari lagi (abis sambil kerja
susah dpt timing ok)..., sehari gak lari dihajar bonyok dah ..., perasaan
banyak dpt cuan tp kok total malah nurun walau dikit,

nunggu postingan embah...,





Pada 15 Juli 2008 23:12, freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

   tandanya u kurang pengalaman dan mental u belum terlatih. kalau indeks
 lagi down tren lebih baik berhenti trading dulu.apa lagi utk pemula yang
 skil nya masih rendah. lebih baik trading ikut tren aja, masuk saat indeks
 lagi bullis, keluar saat indeks lagi bearish. cara begini paling aman.jangan
 takut ketinggalan kereta karena selama bursa buka pasti ada saham yang akan
 naik dan turun.   Kalau u mengaku menyerah, bandar berkata dalam hati Baru
 pemanasan udah nyerah , apa lagi kalau udah serius
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 From: Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH
 To: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:55 AM

  om bandar BEI, shorter BEI, pemain besar BEI, para senior BEI
 per hari ini gw ngaku NYERAH deh ama BURSA GILAEDAN. ...
 pertama kali masuk bursa APRIL 2007dikasih ENAK ENAK MULU
 crash agst 2007 TIDAK terasaCrash jan 2008 mulai BERASA...
 march madness april massacre june market GOBLOK mulai bikin
 MABOK KEPAYANG skr JULY ? wew

 TONIGHT WE DIE IN HELLL. . 

 biasanya kalo retail kecil spt saya nyerahtanda nya apa ya ???


  



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Petualang Saham
Dah Lu ambil aza Bro, itu si Elaine...
Dia khan sudah nenek2...
he.. he.. he..
Gw pilih Neng Fely aza dech...
Oh ya kemana nih Neng Fely skrg kaga pernah nongol...

ngumpet.ah
takut di gebug samA Si eL...


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 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtrader@ wrote:
 
  boleh tetap minta fotonya anyway?? he..he..
  Â
 
 
 Gak boleh !





Re: [obrolan-bandar] 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 tahun....

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Vincent Chase
dr pd buat projection antm mending buat projection hrg nickel tutup brp thn 2008

Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Tahun 2014 anak saya yang pertama baru umur 10 tahun. She can wait even until 
her 17th birthday (bagi dua sama mamanya wew). Lagipula kan gak cuma ANTM yang 
turun, memang seluruh dunia lagi bearish kecuali saham batu bara (tapi bbrp 
hari ini juga koreksi)
  
Masa iya bearish seumur hidup. Tapi kalau memang gak tahan menunggu ya kan mau 
dijual juga gak ada yang larang. Tapi saya akui saham-saham mining memang 
MANTAB buat swing trading, karena ayunannya panjang.

Dow lagi bikin kaki panjang ye. Gimana tuh artinya secara TA?
 
Regards,
DE

Pada 14 Juli 2008 22:40, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:
ayoooada yg sinis gak ama ANTM ?
yang mau  jadiin ANTM jadi bungkus COMBROsilaken
 bagi yang PRO ANTMditunggu  jawabannya
 SETUBUH ato SETUJU ??
  
 Price Adjusted setelah SS...
 2003 : close 385, 234 % dari lowest
 2004 : close 345, 81 % dari lowest
 2005 : close 715, 107 % dari lowest
 2006 : close 1600, 122 % dari lowest
 2007 : close 4475, 176 % dari lowest
 2008 : 2850 lowestkasih deh 100 % saja =  5700 akhir taun
  
 capek deh ama ANTM.kayak kutu kupret saja nih  saham...
 2009 : 12.000
 2010 : 24.000
 2011 : 48.000
 2012 : 80.000
 2013 : 160.000
 2014 : baru di sini nih 200.000 nya
  
 hmm...masih lama juga yapasti akan sangat  BORING atau jangan2 TIDAK 
TERJADI
  
 bisa ga ya ? ditunggu jawabannya Pak DE, Pak Rei,  Pak Pak an yg lain.
 atau bahkan Neng  Elainehahahaha...
  
 


 
 
   

   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Eko Nurcahyono

Thanks atas pencerahannya

bung sulis, bung joss 
Gak kebayang deh di saham ancur, di reksadana ancur.

Hope it would be the last bottom , he he he


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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART III..update
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 11:04 AM











Jangan pesimis dulu bung sulis,

Minyak jatuh tuh ke $136, DOW rebound



Optimis sajalah



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sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote:



 Pak Eko, kalo menurut sesepuh  Senior OB, kita dalam bearsih 

jadi

 udah nggak jauh dari dasar. Optimis ! paling2 tutup LT / computer

 tunggu 0,5 tahun lagi. Sektor riil Indo masih OK koq. Wong sampe 

nolak

 order nih. Salam sesama nyangkuter 

 

 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Eko Nurcahyono eko_dampit@ 

 wrote:

 

  

  Trus baiknya gimana kl dah nyangkut dalam bener ..

  

  Cut loss with very huge loss 

  or forgeted, keep it for 3 years and hope it will be rises 

again ?

  

  Thanks,

  

  nextnubienyangkuter s.com

  

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  From: sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_winarto@ 

  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] THE ULTIMATE SELL SIGNAL, PART 

III..update

  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

  Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:39 AM

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  Dear OB, ternyata analyst asing itu ada benernya, 

bank2

 pada ambruk.

  

  Salam dari nyangkuter di PGAS

  

  

  

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  sulistyo_winarto@ ... wrote:

  

  

  

   

  

   Waduh.., temen2 ada postingin yang bikin keder kesel.. buat 

yang

 tua 

  

   nyangkut, sekalian saya posting juga yang serem. ... Salam 

dari yang

  

   pasti nyangkut

  

   

  

   The ultimate sell signal: Part II

  

   

  

   Commentary: Why does the FDIC need more bank examiners?

  

   

  

   Last update: 8:19 p.m. EST March 2, 2008

  

   

  

   SEATTLE  -- The clues are piling up: this is not a good year 

to be

  

   investing based on wishful thinking. I'm not a perma-bear, 

parsing the

  

   fine print, but I can read the writing on the wall about 

chronic

  

   economic crises.

  

   

  

   The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is planning to beef up its

 division

  

   of resolutions and receiverships, which handles failed banks, 

by 40%

  

   this year. The division currently has 233 employees. 

Considering that

  

   only three banks failed last year, why do they need more 

examiners?

  

   

  

   For now, the FDIC is looking to bring back 25 retired 

employees with

  

   experience in the bank closures of the 1980s and 1990s. No, 

it's not

  

   just a reunion of hard-nosed accountants who closed banks and 

savings

  

   and loans in notorious Friday night raids and liquidated their 

assets.

  

   

  

   This is a real search for tough, experienced lone rangers, 

who set

  

   upon a bank or thrift institution on a Friday to take over as 

much of

  

   the assets as possible and open the following Monday with full

  

   assurances for insured depositors and firm answers for 

uninsured

  

   depositors. The latter group will get 100% on their insured 

deposits,

  

   probably 50% on the uninsured portion and well, we can talk 

about it,

  

   and we'll send you some more later.

  

   

  

   This week Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke put it bluntly: There

 probably will

  

   be some bank failures. Regulators have some real work ahead 

of them.

  

   The FDIC had 76 banks on its problem bank list at Dec. 31, down

 from 136

  

   problem banks in 2002 and 213 banks in 1990. This past year's 

three

  

   failures were the first since 2004. Apparently the FDIC 

expects to

 have

  

   a busy year.

  

   

  

   The FDIC's challenge means you should confine your bank 

accounts to

  

   insured deposits exclusively. Other safe harbors are Treasury-

only

  

   money-market funds, money funds owned by large institutions 

(even

 banks)

  

   and maybe short-term Treasury bills.

  

   

  

   I am sure that the Securities and Exchange Commission has put 

a lot of

  

   pressure on bank managers of money funds to transfer any 

questionable

  

   securities to their balance sheets from the money funds. Banks 

don't

  

   have a great reputation for understanding the securities term,

  

   fiduciary responsibility.  I am also sure the SEC has made 

its

  

   expectations clear to bankers who manage mutual funds.

  

   

  

   First, David Walker, the Comptroller General of the Government

  

   Accountability Office, resigns with five years still left on 

his term.

  

   See full story.

  

  

  

  http://www.marketwa tch.com/News/ Story/ultimate- sell-signal/

 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik boyz
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Petualang Saham
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dah Lu ambil aza Bro, itu si Elaine...
 Dia khan sudah nenek2...
 he.. he.. he..
 Gw pilih Neng Fely aza dech...
 Oh ya kemana nih Neng Fely skrg kaga pernah nongol...

 ngumpet.ah
 takut di gebug samA Si eL...



ooo... gitu yah bro?
ya udah, kalo gitu gw pilih Linda Suciaty aja deh, hehehe...
  [:D]





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dow minus 200 point lagi... skrg malah tutup merah

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Bagoes Narayana
*Dow http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI**10,962.54**-92.65**-0.84%*[image:
Chart for Dow] http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=%5EDJI


Wah ISX merah lagi dong, jadi nih ke 1850 kayak kata pak DE.. tarik
manggg...


2008/7/15 boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, PyRiEL PyRiEL
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  wo 22
  ijokah? sumprit... ajaib banget dow hari ini hihihi
  apakah berarti lowest udah keliatan?
  karena membalnya cepet banget..
  atau, cuma karena turunnya harga minyak?
 


 mudah-2an sampe penutupan



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Bagoes Narayana
he meant the opposite.. if he said green = red vice versa la.

On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:46 PM, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 go girl..hehehe,



Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Foto saya lagi shower mau Pak?

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Date: Tuesday, 15 July, 2008, 11:57 PM











wakakakakaka. ...
 
btw.., pls see 5 minute chart..., hs valid ngga?  any target? comment dong 
bro...


 

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 boleh tetap minta fotonya anyway?? he..he..
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Gak boleh !



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Investor Saham Beralih ke Valas

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Habis keknya ga ada alternatif gambling, egh sorry..inpestasi, lain sih. Kl di 
luar negeri kan bisa gambling di minyak kalau DoJi lagi lesu

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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Investor Saham Beralih ke Valas
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Investor Saham Beralih ke Valas



Asteria

   




 



(inilah.com/Bayu Suta) 





INILAH.COM,
Jakarta – Indeks Harga Saham Gabungan (IHSG) tidak mampu menahan
terpaan sentimen negatif dan terjun bebas ke level yang cukup rendah.
Hal ini dipicu aksi investor yang mengalihkan kepemilikan sahamnya ke
instrumen valas. 
Pada perdagangan saham Selasa (15/7), IHSG ditutup turun 44,688 poin
(1,98%) menjadi 2.214,852. Indeks LQ-45 turun 11,431 poin (2,42%)
menjadi 461,711 dan Jakarta Islamic Index (JII) turun 5,687 poin
(1,45%) menjadi 387,411.

Analis Bumiputera Capital Chrisbiantoro mengatakan, indeks saham
hari ini menunjukkan penurunan tajam. Setelah dibuka di 2.260, IHSG
terus turun 26,39 poin dan ditutup di posisi 2.233 pada sesi siang. 

Indeks tidak mampu bertahan terhadap sentimen negatif pelemahan
bursa regional, sehingga akhirnya ditutup anjlok pada sore ini di level
2.260. Menurut Chris, memburuknya bursa regional dan domestik membuat
investor khawatir untuk bermain di pasar saham. 

Mereka pun mengalihkan investasinya ke instrumen yang dianggap lebih
aman yaitu pasar uang. Para investor berusaha menyelamatkan
investasinya dengan switching ke pasar valas, tuturnya.

Adapun pelemahan pasar bursa tidak lepas dari kasus finansial di AS
yang menimbulkan kekhawatiran bagi investor global. Sentimen negatif
muncul dari krisis kredit AS setelah dua perusahaan finansial Fannie
Mae dan Freddie Mac rugi besar. Hal ini membuat kekhawatiran pasar
global akan munculnya kembali kasus subprime, tambahnya.

Anjloknya bursa juga disebabkan merosotnya harga minyak di pasar
internasional dan turunnya bursa komoditas, seperti harga timah. Hal
ini menyebabkan investor tidak bersemangat lagi. Sikap investor yang wait and 
see ini membuat indeks saham turun, ulasnya.

Adapun saham yang hari ini mencatatkan penurunan cukup tajam adalah
PT Telkom Tbk (TLKM). Emiten sektor telekomunikasi ini anjlok karena
faktor fundamental yang kurang menguntungkan.

Demikian pula saham perbankan seperti PT Bank Rakyat Indonesia Tbk
(BBRI), PT Bank Central Asia Tbk (BBCA), PT Bank Mandiri Tbk (BMRI) dan
PT Bank Danamon Tbk (BDMN) yang menunjukkan kemerosotan, terkait
jatuhnya sektor finansial global. 

Hal ini ditambah kenaikan suku bunga SBI menjadi 8,75% yang
menimbulkan kekhawatiran terjadinya kredit bermasalah perbankan serta
sulitnya penyaluran kredit yang pada akhirnya mempengaruhi kinerjanya.

Perdagangan saham hari ini mencatat transaksi 50.708 kali, dengan
volume 2,015 miliar unit saham, senilai Rp 3,261 triliun. Sebanyak 37
saham naik, 169 saham turun dan 57 saham stagnan.

Saham-saham yang turun antara lain, PT Timah Tbk (TINS) turun
Rp1.050 ke posisi Rp 34.950, PT Astra Agro Lestari Tbk (AALI) turun Rp
600 ke posisi Rp 25.750, PT Astra Internasional Tbk (ASII) turun Rp 500
ke posisi Rp 19.750, dan PT Perusahaan Gas Negara Tbk (PGAS) turun Rp
450 menjadi Rp 11.200.

Juga saham PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia Tbk (TLKM) turun Rp 450 ke
posisi Rp 6.900, PT International Nickel Indonesia Tbk (INCO) turun Rp
300 menjadi Rp 4.800, PT Bank Rakyat Indonesia Tbk (BBRI) turun Rp 300
menjadi Rp 5.200 dan PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (ANTM) turun Rp 100 menjadi
Rp 2.925. 

Saham-saham yang ditutup menguat antara lain, PT Indo Tambangraya
Megah Tbk (ITMG) naik Rp 550 ke posisi Rp 33.050, PT Tambang Batubara
Bukit Asam Tbk (PTBA) naik Rp 250 ke posisi Rp 14.500, PT Bumi
Resources Tbk (BUMI) naik Rp 250 menjadi Rp 6.900, PT Indosat Tbk
(ISAT) naik Rp 200 ke posisi Rp 6.750.

Jatuhnya dua perusahaan finansial AS yaitu Fannie Mae dan Freddie
Mac juga membawa dampak buruk bagi bursa regional. Seperti indeks Kospi
Korea yang turun 3,16% menjadi 1.509,33 basis poin, level terendah
sejak 10 April 2007. 

Indeks Nikkei Jepang juga turun 255,60 poin (2%) menjadi 12.754,56
basis poin, terendah sejak 1 April lalu. Hal ini dipicu anjloknya saham
finansial di bursa. Indeks Topix turun 27,60 poin (2,2%) menjadi
1.253,12 basis poin.

Indeks Hang Seng di bursa Hong Kong turun 839,69 poin (3,8%) menjadi
21.174,77 basis poin. Penurunan ini sudah terjadi dua hari terakhir.
Saham yang memicu pelemahan bursa ialah saham Bank of China yang turun
4,3%. 

Terpuruknya sektor perbankan China ini diperkirakan masih akan
terjadi hingga 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 tahun....

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja
Sekedar pengamatan secara TA versi hmin pak DE

Kita sedang menuju bottom. Indikator seperti dow teory di USD/JPY, MACD di
DOW dan beberapa indikator lainnya.

Sepertinya kita sedang menuju final push untuk sesi bearish kali ini.

Cuman bukan berarti bottom is near lho. JPY masih bisa koreksi sampai
100-103 dan divergence.
Dow masih bisa koreksi 300-400 point lagi dan still divergence.

I love this formation

2008/7/15 Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Tahun 2014 anak saya yang pertama baru umur 10 tahun. She can wait even
 until her 17th birthday (bagi dua sama mamanya wew). Lagipula kan gak cuma
 ANTM yang turun, memang seluruh dunia lagi bearish kecuali saham batu bara
 (tapi bbrp hari ini juga koreksi)

 Masa iya bearish seumur hidup. Tapi kalau memang gak tahan menunggu ya kan
 mau dijual juga gak ada yang larang. Tapi saya akui saham-saham mining
 memang MANTAB buat swing trading, karena ayunannya panjang.

 Dow lagi bikin kaki panjang ye. Gimana tuh artinya secara TA?

 Regards,
 DE

 Pada 14 Juli 2008 22:40, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

  ayoooada yg sinis gak ama ANTM ?
 yang mau jadiin ANTM jadi bungkus COMBROsilaken
 bagi yang PRO ANTMditunggu jawabannya
 SETUBUH ato SETUJU ??

 Price Adjusted setelah SS...
 2003 : close 385, 234 % dari lowest
 2004 : close 345, 81 % dari lowest
 2005 : close 715, 107 % dari lowest
 2006 : close 1600, 122 % dari lowest
 2007 : close 4475, 176 % dari lowest
 2008 : 2850 lowestkasih deh 100 % saja = 5700 akhir taun

 capek deh ama ANTM.kayak kutu kupret saja nih saham...
 2009 : 12.000
 2010 : 24.000
 2011 : 48.000
 2012 : 80.000
 2013 : 160.000
 2014 : baru di sini nih 200.000 nya

 hmm...masih lama juga yapasti akan sangat BORING atau jangan2 TIDAK
 TERJADI

 bisa ga ya ? ditunggu jawabannya Pak DE, Pak Rei, Pak Pak an yg lain.
 atau bahkan Neng Elainehahahaha...


 



[obrolan-bandar] bumi

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik swan silo
chart bumi cantik sekali


  

[obrolan-bandar] Apakah 2167 akan tetap menjadi THE LOWEST tahun ini ???

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik swan silo
mudah2an 2170.kalao tembus juga?...1950 menunggu



- Original Message 
From: MacD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:49:59 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Repost: Apakah 2167 akan tetap menjadi THE LOWEST 
tahun ini ???


Baru 15 menit pagi ini Dow sudah minus 100 lebih
Jadi berharap apakah bisa 2167 tetap jadi the lowset tahun ini...

BUMI... ADARO... ???


MacD
I'm Lovin' It
 


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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY TINS dan BUMI!!

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Angelo Ferdinand
*TIN RISES 2.3 PCT ON LME TO 1-1/2 MTH HIGH, BACKWARDATION AT WIDEST SINCE
APRIL 2005 javascript:op(HelpItem.aspx?Code=BMnews,400,450)

**NEWSBREAK - Tin jumps to highest since late-May, cash/threes spread at
widest since April'05 javascript:op(HelpItem.aspx?Code=BMnews,400,450)*

SN 3M2335023650   +250
Tin remained firm in premarket trade, indicated up $75 at $23,425/mt. Tin
is still trading at the top end of its range. The metal is still looking
strong. The supply issues in Indonesia and China seem to be driving prices,
I think the story is a little overdone. Tin stocks stood Tuesday at 5,700
mt, down 305 mt.

Dear OB'ers.


Index BEI jatuh tanpa volumedua hari masing2 hanya 2triliuanan dan 3,2
triliun kemaren. Langkah yang paling jitu saat ini adalah melepaskan diri
dari index BEI sejenak dan fokus pada saham per saham yang ada di portfolio
kita. Index jatuh, belum tentu saham kita jatuh. Coba lihat ITMG, PTBA dan
TINS yang tidak jauh2 amat dari record high mereka. Demikian juga BUMI yang
begitu menggiurkan (ditinjau dari PER growth) ketika dia menyentuh lagi
dibawah 7ribuan.

Kalau kita sedikit mau tenang, TLKM lah sebagai kapitalisasi terbesar di BEI
(pasca rontoknya BUMI), yang memberi kontribusi jatuhnya index terdalam,
karena jatuh dari 9ribuan sampai kini di 6900. Demikian pula saham2
berkapitalisasi gede seperti ASII, INCO, BMRI dan BBRI juga berkontribusi
kenceng terhadap jatuhnya index.

Bagi saya, paranoid jatuhnya index saya pakai untuk melakukan pembelian
nyicil maupun switching CL beberapa saham gak jalan ke saham yang lebih
likuid.

TINS, harga tin lme kembali merangkak mendekati rekor tertingginya yang
bukan diakibatkan karena euphoria sesaat seperti gold, namun benar2 karena
faktor supply yang terus memburuk (atau strategi TINS yang menyimpan
stoknya?). Warehouse tin LME  volumenya terus menipis dan terburuk sejak
April 2005. Pembelian BORONG besar2an 3 hari terakhir masing2 300ton/hari
dan cancel warrant yang terus meningkat di LME menjadi indikator betapa
paniknya dunia industri menyikapi kendala supply. Lihat attachment. Beberapa
hari ini TINS diguyur dan konsisten dicampakkan? Ah, bukankah sudah kelewat
sering TINS diguyur untuk kemudian break new high? Belum lagi, dua hari dari
sekarang, TINS memberikan deviden nett 1500,-. Khusus untuk TINS, memang
bukan untuk spekulasi, namun pelajari pergerakan harga metalnya,
pertimbangkan volume produksinya, dan jangan lupa selalu menyisakan saham
bernama C.A.S.H untuk melakukan average down ketika TINS dicandain tanpa
alasan.


BUMI, wow it is too cheap to be true.Belum ada satupun analyst yang men
downgrade saham ini hingga saat ini

Happy Investing


Angelo F
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Wachjudi, Ferry
Gak bakalan hijau dech...karena friendster backgroundnya warnanya
merahhe..he..he

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of boyz
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 11:46 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

 

go girl..

hehehe,

 



[obrolan-bandar] BMRI

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik hendrik_lwww
kembali lagi ke downtrend line.
Namun dengan volume yang sangat kecil kemarin.
Jadi sepertinya akan segera rebound juga klaau regional mendungkung
mumpung Tante Dow lagi ngambek kayaknya sedikit ketunda..
secara overal BMRI ngga ada masalah, Profitnya naik 30an % (berita 
kemarin dari e-bursa) chart :
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/07/bmri-update_15.html



[obrolan-bandar] PNLF

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik hendrik_lwww
mulai cermati PNLF mungkin jadi BF berikutnya 
chart :
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/07/pnlf_15.html



[obrolan-bandar] CPO : Segera Rebound

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik hendrik_lwww
dari analisa volume, Agri naik dengan volume gede dan turun dengan 
volume yang relatif kecil. 

Saham Pilihan AGRI yang kemungkinan segera rebound kencang : LSIP
chart :
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/07/agri-volume-analysis-rebound-
soon.html



[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG 2216

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Hendra Santosa
Hmm bisa kebayang sih kalau investor ngamuk :( seremnya melebihi
peri-kehewanan, moga2 tabah. :S
Seperti Pak Tasrul bilang, tidak perlu bingung, harga tidak
kemana-mana kok, volume turun tidak ada, turun kan nda banyak ya,
sudah habis2an, tapi seremnya buanyak, haha ya itu makin besar return
ya harus makin serem dong, mana ada tidak serem, return banyak, ah
it's not a perfect world :p
Ibu Elaine saya bingung, harga sebetulnya tidak kemana-mana kok bisa
turun segitu banyak performasinya, hmmm mungkin Ibu Elaine bandingkan
dengan highest price, highest peak performance atau gimana gitu, kalau
mungkin bisa di-financial-engineering, reportnya Ibu Elaine bisa lebih
bagus gitu, just an idea, minimal kasih obat tidur investornya dulu Bu
sampai another quarter, again n again :p.
Kalau mau bayangin yang lebih serem lagi, kenapa financial yang lebih
besar dari BearStearn, Fennie  Freddie tidak ada significant
write-off mortgage-cdo-nya, e.g. JPMorgan, impossible kan? Hayo coba
kalo mereka write-off apa nda lebih parah lagi, usd isa jatuh hancur
berantakan. Jadi inget th 1997, rp terdevaluasi, sekarang usd
terdevaluasi, tapi untungnya properti mereka juga turun banyak, jadi
inflasi mungkin tidak tinggi (hmmm bentar lagi ada cpi, apa akan ada
kejutan inflasi rendah?) mungkin malah deflasi?
SP target terbagi 2, min 1000, max 1400, ya ditengah2 aja dung kalau
begitu, 1200, sampai real 1000 naik ke 1200, hmmm another 1 year,
duh yang sabar???
Abank tukang mie bakso-nya moga2 nda bawa kabur duitnya, belum juga
dapat mie baksonya. hehe :)


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *Me too. Anyway, Elaine baru kena marah Investor. I'm sooo dead. :(
YTD gain
 190% tinggal 54%. JANGAN TERTAWA!! Elaine sedang kesal...
 
 Elaine**
 *




[obrolan-bandar] BRPT Pastikan Akan Diakuisisi Perusahaan Investasi Inggris

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik jacki fdsaasd
Senin, 15 Juli 2008 - 16:33 wibReporter: Budi Sulistyo

JAKARTA
- PT Barito Pacific Timber Tbk (BRPT) dipastikan akan segera diakuisisi
oleh sebuah perusahaan investasi asing asal Inggris. Proses penjajakan
telah dimulai sejak beberapa minggu yang lalu dan transaksi akuisisi
tersebut akan segera dilaksanakan sebelum akhir bulan Juli ini.
Perusahaan investasi tersebut menilai BRPT merupakan perusahaan holding
dengan prospek bisnis yang baik karena menguasai beberapa bidang
seperti perkayuan, kimia, batu bara, minyak bumi dan sebagainya melalui
beberapa anak usaha Barito. Dikabarkan, perusahaan asing tersebut akan
mengakuisisi saham BRPT melalui pasar dengan target harga hingga Rp.
2.500. Selain prospek bisnis yang baik, BRPT juga dikabarkan akan
memperluas bisnis dengan mengakuisisi sebuah perusahaan tambang minyak
di Qatar.

Seorang
sumber dari pihak internal BRPT mengiyakan adanya rencana transaksi
akuisisi saham BRPT oleh perusahaan investasi Inggris tersebut. Rencana
akuisisi
ini merupakan sentimen positif bagi saham BRPT. Pada penutupan Selasa,
harga BRPT ditutup pada level harga Rp. 1.630. Secara teknikal, harga
ini telah berada di area oversold dan berpotensi besar untuk mengalami
rebound menuju uptrend. Dedi Setyawan, Analisis
saham independen, merekomendasikan BUY AND HOLD atas saham BRPT dengan
target
harga Rp. 2.800 hingga bulan Agustus mendatang.
 (bud/Okezone)


  


  

[obrolan-bandar] BRPT Pastikan Akan Diakuisisi Perusahaan Investasi Inggris

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik jacki fdsaasd
Senin, 15 Juli 2008 - 16:33 wibReporter: Budi Sulistyo

JAKARTA
- PT Barito Pacific Timber Tbk (BRPT) dipastikan akan segera diakuisisi
oleh sebuah perusahaan investasi asing asal Inggris. Proses penjajakan
telah dimulai sejak beberapa minggu yang lalu dan transaksi akuisisi
tersebut akan segera dilaksanakan sebelum akhir bulan Juli ini.
Perusahaan investasi tersebut menilai BRPT merupakan perusahaan holding
dengan prospek bisnis yang baik karena menguasai beberapa bidang
seperti perkayuan, kimia, batu bara, minyak bumi dan sebagainya melalui
beberapa anak usaha Barito. Dikabarkan, perusahaan asing tersebut akan
mengakuisisi saham BRPT melalui pasar dengan target harga hingga Rp.
2.500. Selain prospek bisnis yang baik, BRPT juga dikabarkan akan
memperluas bisnis dengan mengakuisisi sebuah perusahaan tambang minyak
di Qatar.

Seorang
sumber dari pihak internal BRPT mengiyakan adanya rencana transaksi
akuisisi saham BRPT oleh perusahaan investasi Inggris tersebut. Rencana
akuisisi
ini merupakan sentimen positif bagi saham BRPT. Pada penutupan Selasa,
harga BRPT ditutup pada level harga Rp. 1.630. Secara teknikal, harga
ini telah berada di area oversold dan berpotensi besar untuk mengalami
rebound menuju uptrend. Dedi Setyawan, Analisis
saham independen, merekomendasikan BUY AND HOLD atas saham BRPT dengan
target
harga Rp. 2.800 hingga bulan Agustus mendatang.
 (bud/Okezone)


  




  


  

Re: To Mas Tasrul: Sorry ya RE: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA : Bagi yang masih penasaran

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik bw_lauw
---
TERIMA KASIH PAK RW ATAS  SORRY  NYA !!!
sy ikut senang bahwa pak RW msh mau say sorry ke pak Tasrul atas 
ketidaksengajaannya kemarin,sy pun yakin pak Tasrul type org yg arif
(nampak dr responnya yg ga berlebihan).memang klo market lg bearish 
banyak komentar yg agak negatif.dulu malah ada yg marah sm embah 
gara2 saham tertentu naik(mgkn krn dia sdh cut loss),tp direspon dg 
arif sm embah,jd ga ber-larut2(embah memang ga cm IQ nya yg tinggi tp 
jg EQ nya)Salut deh,salam damai !!! 

 In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ricky Wakiman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry ya, Mas Tasrul. Saya memang suka iseng dan -ada yang bilang-- 
nyinyir
 (hik, hik). Tapi yang kemarin itu mungkin agak kebablasan sehingga
 menyinggung perasaan Anda meskipun sebenernya nggak bermaksud 
begitu. 
 
  
 
 Dulu saya pernah kutip ramalan CNBC bahwa horror movies bakal 
terjadi pada
 waktu earning season Q1 di US. Ternyata hasilnya tidak terlalu 
mengerikan
 dan dibilang sesuai prediksi pasar. Kayaknya, horror movies bakal
 berlanjut di earning season Q2 ini. Apalagi dengan munculnya kasus 
Freddie 
 Fannie yang kerugiannya konon bisa mencapai lebih dari USD 1 T (?). 
Tentunya
 likuiditas bakalan tersedot. Kalau gak ada likuiditas, ya sama aja 
kayak BEI
 yang bagaikan pesawat kehabisan bahan bakar.
 
  
 
 Soal ekonomi makro AS sendiri, terakhir saya baca di Bisnis 
Indonesia hari
 Jumat kemarin, bahwa 63 ekonom responden Bloomberg bilang laju 
pertumbuhan
 ekonomi AS bakal melambat jadi 0,5% akhir tahun ini dari prediksi 
prediksi
 sebelumnya 1%. Ini akibat bakal berakhirnya efek rabat pajak yang 
saat ini
 masih bisa menolong mempertahankan laju pertumbuhan sekitar 1%.
 
  
 
 Di sisi lain, angka pengangguran di sono juga terus meningkat. 
Padahal,
 seingat saya, pertumbuhan ekonomi Indonesia sebesar 6% saja 
dibilang tidak
 banyak menolong mengurangi pengangguran di sini. Paling tidak harus 
7 - 8%.
 Dengan angka-angka seperti di atas, rasanya sulit untuk berharap 
banyak.  
 
  
 
 Capek ah ngomong serius. Hik, hik.
 
  
 
 Salam,
 
 RW
 
  
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Tasrul Tanar
 Sent: 12 Juli 2008 19:24
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA : Bagi yang masih penasaran
 
  
 
 
  
 
 Analis bisa saja meleset, biasalah ..kalo meleset aja pada ribut , 
kalo
 benar diem...





[obrolan-bandar] IHSG tommorrow...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Charles Atmaja
Sekarang pertanyaan yang ditunggu2 jawabannya oleh para trader adalah apakah  
besok index akan benar2 tembus di bawah 2200?  Pasti semua udah pada mikir ke 
sana semua kan...
Well... DOW udah break record lagi.. tiap hari break record apa ga disuspend 
aja ya?  udah 10xxx...
We'll see how strong Uncle BAKRIE can fight Uncle DOW?
I think IDX will be red again even though Uncle BAKRIE can still stand up... 
What a excited view tommorrow will be


  

RE: [obrolan-bandar] 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 tahun....

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Richard
My Friend. Wake up from your sleep. 

Cheers. 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Pemain Mini
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:40 PM
To: obrolan-bandar
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10
tahun

 

ayoooada yg sinis gak ama ANTM ?
yang mau jadiin ANTM jadi bungkus COMBROsilaken

bagi yang PRO ANTMditunggu jawabannya

SETUBUH ato SETUJU ??

 

Price Adjusted setelah SS...

2003 : close 385, 234 % dari lowest

2004 : close 345, 81 % dari lowest

2005 : close 715, 107 % dari lowest

2006 : close 1600, 122 % dari lowest

2007 : close 4475, 176 % dari lowest

2008 : 2850 lowestkasih deh 100 % saja = 5700 akhir taun

 

capek deh ama ANTM.kayak kutu kupret saja nih saham...

2009 : 12.000

2010 : 24.000

2011 : 48.000

2012 : 80.000

2013 : 160.000

2014 : baru di sini nih 200.000 nya

 

hmm...masih lama juga yapasti akan sangat BORING atau jangan2 TIDAK
TERJADI

 

bisa ga ya ? ditunggu jawabannya Pak DE, Pak Rei, Pak Pak an yg lain.

atau bahkan Neng Elainehahahaha...

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] bumi

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik M|C
cantik sih cantik tp bakal ngambek gak?

On 7/16/08, swan silo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 chart bumi cantik sekali





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik elvira raven
Oit boyz... ati2 klo pilih Lindah Suciaty... dia dah ada yg punya.. lagian yg 
ngantri juga banyak... he3

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:24 AM
 


ooo... gitu yah bro?
ya udah, kalo gitu gw pilih Linda Suciaty aja deh, hehehe...






  




 






















  

[obrolan-bandar] MEMBEDAH BIBIT SUKSES KEBANGKITAN DIRI

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Eddi Wahyudi
MEMBEDAH BIBIT SUKSES KEBANGKITAN DIRI
Prof. Roy Sembel,
Sandra Sembel, pemerhati dan praktisi pengembangan SDM 

Individu yang sukses akan berdampak positif pada masyarakat 
sekitarnya. Masyarakat yang sukses akan menularkan dampak positif 
pada kelompok-kelompok masyarakat lain disekitar mereka. Selanjutnya, 
kelompok-kelompok yang sukses ini akan membantuk bangsa yang sukses. 
Jadi, `kebangkitan' satu orang yang bertekad untuk menggulirkan 
kesuksesan akhirnya akan memiliki dampak spiral yang meluas sampai 
akhirnya merambah ke tingkat nasional. Mungkin ini pulalah yang 
disadari oleh para pendiri bangsa kita 100 tahun yang lalu ketika 
mereka mencetuskan semangat `Kebangkitan Nasional'. Namun, untuk 
membuat hari bersejerah ini lebih bermakna dan berdampak positif, 
kita juga harus memiliki tekad yang sama: membuat bangsa Indonesia, 
secara individupun juga mengalami kebangkitan diri'. Jika hal ini 
tidak terjadi, maka kita tidak akan mampu mengulang lagi momen 
bersejarah tersebut. Lalu, apa rahasia para pejuang kita ketika 
mereka mencetuskan ikrar bahwa bangsa kita ini perlu mengalami 
kebangkitan? Simak yang berikut.

RIGHT NOW, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT PERSON

Kapan sih waktu  yang tepat untuk menggulirkan kebangkitan diri dari 
keterpurukan atau kondisi yang tidak menyenangkan saat ini? Dimana 
kita harus memulai langkah awal kebangkitan diri? Siapa orang yang 
tepat yang membantu kita untuk memulai kebangkitan diri? 

Right Now. Dodi adalah pekerja keras. Tiap hari berangkat jam 5.30 
dari rumahnya di Bekasi menuju tempat kerjanya di Kungingan, di pusat 
Jakarta. Hampir setiap hari ia pulang lewat dari jam 7 malam karena 
harus menyelesaikan banyak pekerjaan. Tiba di rumah sudah sekitar 
menjelang jam 9 malam. Kadang-kadang akhir pekan juga tersita untuk 
pekerjaan. Namun, Dodi tetap merasa bahwa gaji yang dibawa pulang 
belum mencukupi atau belum memberikan kelonggaran yang dapat 
digunakan untuk membeli barang-barang yang selalu diinginkannya. Ia 
sepertinya harus hidup dari `gaji' ke `gaji' dan dari `hutang' 
ke `hutang'. Uangnya di bankpun tidak bisa menginap terlalu lama—
begitu uang masuk, uang tersebut harus keluar lagi untuk membayar 
cicilan rumah, cicilan mobil, uang sekolah anak, uang belanja, bayar 
listrik, telepon dan berbagai kebutuhan pokok lainnya. Seringkali 
pula ia harus meminjam atau membeli dengan kartu kredit yang harus 
dicicilnya, dan menambah jumlah pinjaman yang harus dicicil. Dodi 
sebenarnya sudah bosan hidup seperti ini. Namun ia tidak berani 
meninggalkan pekerjaannya yang memberikan jaminan gaji bulanan dan 
tunjangan kesehatan serta berbagai tunjangan yang `lumayan'. Jadi,  
Dodi tetap sabar menunggu waktu yang tepat untuk melakukan 
perubahan. Dia menunggu `rejeki nomplok'. Siapa tahu dia menang 
undian, mendapat harta warisan, atau bonus besar dari kantor 
tempatnya bekerja, sehingga ia bisa menggunakan uang tersebut untuk 
membuat perubahan dalam hidup. Tahun demi tahun berlalu, rejeki 
nomplok yang diharapkan Dodi tak kunjung tiba. Iapun masih harus 
berangkat pagi dan pulang malam kelelahan, serta hidup `pas-pasan' 
bahkan seringkali juga merasa sesak `tercekik' cicilan.

Apakah Anda melihat kemiripan hidup Anda dengan yang dialami Dodi? 
Jika demikian Anda perlu melakukan perubahan. Anda tidak perlu 
menunggu `waktu yang tepat'. Kita tidak punya kuasa untuk kembali ke 
masa lalu. Kita juga tidak punya kuasa untuk melompat ke masa depan. 
Tetapi, kita punya kemampuan untuk melakukan sesuatu di masa ini 
(right now). Jadi, jika Anda ingin `bangkit' dari lingkaran 
keterpurukan, kebosanan, jangan tunggu sampai `waktu yang tepat'. 
Waktu yang tepat untuk bangkit adalah sekarang. Anda tidak akan 
pernah menemukan waktu yang sempurna, karena tidak akan pernah ada 
waktu yang sesempurna saat ini. Paling tidak Anda bisa mulai menyusun 
strategi sekarang dan tetapkan langkah untuk melaju menggulirkan 
perubahan tersebut seperti yang telah diteladani oleh para pendiri 
bangsa 100 tahun yang lalu.

Right Here. Budi adalah pria muda yang menginginkan perubahan dalam 
dirinya. Sebagai lulusan SMA di sebuah kota kecil. Setelah lulus, ia 
masih menganggur sambil menunggu jawaban dari lamaran kerja yang 
telah dikirimkannya kemana-mana. Ah, seandainya saya dapat 
kesempatan bekerja di kota besar, pasti saya bisa sukses dengan gaji 
lebih besear. Lalu, datanglah seseorang yang menawarkan kesempatan 
untuk berangkat ke kota besar dengan sejumlah besar uang sebagai 
imbalannya. Dengan mengerahkan seluruh tabungan serta menggalang uang 
pinjaman dari berbagai pihak, Budi berhasil mengumpulkan uang yang 
diperlukan. Ia lalu berangkat dengan harapan setinggi langit. 
Ternyata setibanya di tempat impiannya, ia tidak juga menemukan 
kesuksesan yang dicari. Ia ditipu dan di tinggalkan tanpa uang tanpa 
tempat tinggal dan tanpa makanan. Ia terlunta-lunta dan tidak bisa 
kembali ke kampung halaman karena malu dan karena tidak punya uang 
lagi. Karena tidak kenal tempat, maka ia menerima 

[obrolan-bandar] FPNI

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik exindo_trade
Siap-siap lepas landas!



Re: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Sudi Mampir
klo ritel udah nyerah, berarti masuk pasar ya mbah..
kalo tukang sayur sudah omongin saham keluar deh dr saham..


- Original Message 
From: Bill Jone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:16:31 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH


Embah gak muncul2 sptnya embah pegang cash dan sedikit mungkin trading di 
banking , prediksi embah selalu jitu., hampir gak ada yg meleset,


Embah still the best.

cuan dikit..., harusnya lari terus ambil trus lari lagi (abis sambil kerja 
susah dpt timing ok)..., sehari gak lari dihajar bonyok dah ..., perasaan 
banyak dpt cuan tp kok total malah nurun walau dikit, 

nunggu postingan embah...,






Pada 15 Juli 2008 23:12, freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] com menulis:

tandanya u kurang pengalaman dan mental u belum terlatih. kalau indeks lagi 
down tren lebih baik berhenti trading dulu.apa lagi utk pemula yang skil nya 
masih rendah. lebih baik trading ikut tren aja, masuk saat indeks lagi bullis, 
keluar saat indeks lagi bearish. cara begini paling aman.jangan takut 
ketinggalan kereta karena selama bursa buka pasti ada saham yang akan naik dan 
turun.   Kalau u mengaku menyerah, bandar berkata dalam hati Baru pemanasan 
udah nyerah , apa lagi kalau udah serius

--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Frendy wildwildwest84@ gmail..com wrote:

From: Frendy wildwildwest84@ gmail.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OM BANDAR, SAYA NGAKU NYERAH DEH
To: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 6:55 AM


om bandar BEI, shorter BEI, pemain besar BEI, para senior BEI
per hari ini gw ngaku NYERAH deh ama BURSA GILAEDAN. ...
pertama kali masuk bursa APRIL 2007dikasih ENAK ENAK MULU
crash agst 2007 TIDAK terasaCrash jan 2008 mulai BERASA...
march madness april massacre june market GOBLOK mulai bikin 
MABOK KEPAYANG skr JULY ? wew.
 
TONIGHT WE DIE IN HELLL. . 
 
biasanya kalo retail kecil spt saya nyerahtanda nya apa ya ??? 

 


  

[obrolan-bandar] DO YOU SEE THERE'S BE CLEARLY IN THE BLUE-SKY - HOPEFULLY - THE STORMY-WEATHER IS GOING TO BE FAR-AWAY EYES...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Aria Bela Nusa



[obrolan-bandar] Re: bumi

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik exindo_trade
BUMI setelah kepastian menang Herald, apakah kenaikannya 
cuman kecil seperti kemarin aja? Atau hari ini mau lanjutin 
kenaikan yg kemarin? Sekalian nunut kenaikan ADARO nanti?
jadi deg2an. Kalo BUMI n ADARO pada naik hari ini, apakah 
kita akan melihat ijonya IHSG untuk yg pertama kali setelah 
sekian waktu? 

Ayo dong bandar, investor, retailer, trader, dll, buat IHSG 
jadi ijo. Minimal bantu saya biar mata saya gak tambah minus 
nih. Kalo gak lama-lama saya terpaksa operasi lasik nih 
hahahaha.




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, M|C 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 cantik sih cantik tp bakal ngambek gak?
 
 On 7/16/08, swan silo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  chart bumi cantik sekali
 
 
 





[obrolan-bandar] RE: 101 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 bulan

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Alwin Supriatna

Dont Worry Be Happy. Oneday ANTM balik ke TP 5000
 
Aminn
 
AS
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 
tahun
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 4:48 PM








My Friend… Wake up from your sleep… 
Cheers… 
 


From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ps..com] On Behalf Of Pemain Mini
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:40 PM
To: obrolan-bandar
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] 1001 Alasan ANTM akan ke 200 ribu dalam 5 - 10 
tahun
 




ayoooada yg sinis gak ama ANTM ?
yang mau jadiin ANTM jadi bungkus COMBROsilaken. ...

bagi yang PRO ANTMditunggu jawabannya.. ..

SETUBUH ato SETUJU ??

 

Price Adjusted setelah SS...

2003 : close 385, 234 % dari lowest

2004 : close 345, 81 % dari lowest

2005 : close 715, 107 % dari lowest

2006 : close 1600, 122 % dari lowest

2007 : close 4475, 176 % dari lowest

2008 : 2850 lowestkasih deh 100 % saja = 5700 akhir taun

 

capek deh ama ANTM.kayak kutu kupret saja nih saham...

2009 : 12.000

2010 : 24.000

2011 : 48.000

2012 : 80.000

2013 : 160.000

2014 : baru di sini nih 200.000 nya

 

hmm...masih lama juga yapasti akan sangat BORING atau jangan2 TIDAK 
TERJADI

 

bisa ga ya ? ditunggu jawabannya Pak DE, Pak Rei, Pak Pak an yg lain.

atau bahkan Neng Elainehahahaha. ..

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[obrolan-bandar] 1 alasan ANTM ke 300 ribu

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik hendrik_lwww
ANTM PASTI KE 300 RIBU
KALAU
RSS 1:100 HA3..

normalnya berrati profit ANTM harus naik 100x menjadi 500 triliun per 
tajhun (saat ini kan tertinggi juga 5 triliunan)

jauh lebih tinggi dr TLKM donk



Re: [obrolan-bandar] kapan anda berkenalan dengan IHSG?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Kabu Nusi

Roller coaster IDX mudah2an masih jalan, so masih optimis potensi gain double 
this year. Kalau tidak sesuai harapan, I'll take the great lessons this year :)



--- On Tue, 7/15/08, Lindt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Lindt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] kapan anda berkenalan dengan IHSG?
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 3:26 PM






Rugi dikit aja udah syukur. Tp ilmunya banyak th ini. Sekolahnya mahal ya. 

Sent from my BlackBerry®
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom:  Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:17:06 +0700 (WIT)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] kapan anda berkenalan dengan IHSG?
Kalo bisa lewat taon ini 'aja dg selamat (tentunya - 
dilihat dr hasilnya,
 baek dlm % maupun angka nominalnya) - saya kira termasup hebat banget, Pak
 - sejak akhir taon yl 'ampe sekarang ini banyak banget crash-nya scr
 bertubi2, berkali2

 Happy Chuan,

 Aria

  *awal tahun 2004 (berarti masih junior belum
  berpengalaman di bear market karena dari awal 2004
  sampai akhir tahun 2007 indeksnya naik terus), kalo
  ihsg ga recover tinggal mempertanggungjawab kan seluruh
  perbuatan, jelek-jeleknya diaanggap tdk capable
  dipindahin kerjanya dan sebelum dipindahin mau
  unsubscribe dulu di obrolan bandar, kalo mbah dan
  OB'ers yang lain bagaimana, udah lama main saham?*
 
 
 
 
 






  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] DO YOU SEE THERE'S BE CLEARLY IN THE BLUE-SKY - HOPEFULLY - THE STORMY-WEATHER IS GOING TO BE FAR-AWAY EYES...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Bagoes Narayana
*Sorry, it is simple koq.. resesi global semua pullback at least for half a
year

Today picture says still same stormy turbulitic weather
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Composite**1,497.67 **10:13PM
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] DO YOU SEE THERE'S BE CLEARLY IN THE BLUE-SKY - HOPEFULLY - THE STORMY-WEATHER IS GOING TO BE FAR-AWAY EYES...

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Paulus Tangke Allo
turbulitic ??

--pta


On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Bagoes Narayana
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry, it is simple koq.. resesi global semua pullback at least for half a
 year

 Today picture says still same stormy turbulitic weather
.


[obrolan-bandar] Lowest tahun ini katanya EL kan April kemarin

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Rei
yaitu level 2170-2180, berarti tsunami kali ini sdh habis dong... paling buka 
merah tipis tutup ijo tipis (MAUNYE!) 
 


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik Rully
Cantik, pintar pula! Selain ahli ilmu komunikasi, juga ngerti dunia 
investasi.

Pilihan yang bagus, tapi passing grade nya juga selangit. Antriannya 
lebih panjang daripada antrian nasabah BCA...

:)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ooo... gitu yah bro?
 ya udah, kalo gitu gw pilih Linda Suciaty aja deh, hehehe...
   [:D]





[obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

2008-07-15 Terurut Topik gangway


Ah kalo Cuma antri kan tinggal masalah BID dan OFFER ajah ….. atau emang
penagalaman mau beli barang diskon ??

A3K


From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 9:28 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine mau besok hijau gak?

Cantik, pintar pula! Selain ahli ilmu komunikasi, juga ngerti dunia
investasi.

Pilihan yang bagus, tapi passing grade nya juga selangit. Antriannya
lebih panjang daripada antrian nasabah BCA...

:)

--- In , boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ooo... gitu yah bro?
 ya udah, kalo gitu gw pilih Linda Suciaty aja deh, hehehe...
 [:D]







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