[obrolan-bandar] Saham bank geser dominasi saham tambang

[kusumawati]

Kemarin saham bank unjuk gigi. Tujuh saham sektor keuangan ini menopang
indeks harga saham gabungan (IHSG), menggeser saham pertambangan dari
daftar 10 besar pendorong penguatan indeks (leading mover).

Fenomena ini terlepas dari pengamatan karena pasar 'disibukkan'
pergerakan saham minyak. Padahal, kenaikan saham perbankan telah
berjalan sejak sebulan lalu, yang uniknya pergerakan itu berbarengan
dengan momentum anomali saham pertambangan.

Pada 23 Juni, harga minyak mentah dunia ditutup menguat US$136 per
barel. Namun, saham-saham pertambangan justru terkoreksi sehingga
mengantarkan indeks jeblok sembilan poin ke level 2.362,74.

Sehari setelah itu, saham sektor perbankan dan pertambangan mulai
bergerak berlawanan. Koreksi indeks sektor pertambangan sebesar 7,5 poin
(menjadi 3.488,78) ditimpali kenaikan indeks sektor keuangan 1,4 poin
(menjadi 198,42).

Selanjutnya, saham sektor keuangan terus menguat. Terhitung dari 23 Juni
sampai sekarang, indeks sektor ini naik 13,26%. Pada periode sama,
indeks sektor pertambangan justru terus anjlok dengan koreksi sebesar
20,4%.

Kenaikan tersebut meringankan koreksi indeks sektor perbankan dengan
besaran hanya 13,75%. Angka koreksi itu jauh lebih baik dibandingkan
dengan koreksi indeks sektor pertambangan yang mencapai 15%.

Analis PT Citigroup Securities Indonesia Stephan I. Hasjim sedikit
menjelaskan pergerakan saham perbankan dan pertambangan dalam laporan
risetnya pada 22 Juli. Dia menilai valuasi saham perbankan sedikit
diuntungkan dari koreksi harga minyak, di tengah BI Rate tinggi.

"Koreksi yield obligasi dan harga minyak mentah seharusnya memperbaiki
valuasi saham dan ekspektasi lonjakan suku bunga di Indonesia,"
tuturnya.

Dia menilai ancaman kenaikan BI Rate tidak akan berdampak terlalu besar
bagi kinerja bank. Sebaliknya, bank besar, seperti PT Bank Rakyat
Indonesia Tbk, PT Bank Mandiri Tbk, dan PT Bank Central Asia Tbk justru
akan diuntungkan dari kenaikan suku bunga.

Pada triwulan I, obligasi mengontribusi pendapatan bunga Bank Mandiri
dan BCA sebesar 29% dan 11%. Menurut catatan Bisnis, Mandiri tercatat
sebagai pemegang portofolio SUN bersuku bunga mengambang paling besar di
antara bank-bank nasional lain.

Dengan tingkat suku bunga dan inflasi yang meningkat, pemegang obligasi
dengan kupon mengambang (floating rate) akan lebih diuntungkan,
dibandingkan dengan investor yang memegang obligasi bersuku bunga tetap
(fixed rate).

Obligasi

Citigroup mencatat turunnya harga pasar (mark to market) obligasi sempat
menjadi biang penurunan pendapatan bank-bank kecil. Portofolio ini
menyumbang pendapatan (praprovisi) Panin, Niaga dan BII dalam lima bulan
pertama tahun ini, masing-masing sebesar 24%, 14%, dan 8%.

Kejutan

Stephan memperkirakan akan ada sedikit kejutan dari BRI, Mandiri, dan
BCA dengan pendapatan stabil pada triwulan kedua dibandingkan dengan
triwulan satu. "Pendapatan semester pertama menyumbang sekitar 46% dan
48% dari perkiraaan kami hingga akhir tahun," tuturnya.

lanjut membaca...


Oleh Arif Gunawan S.
Wartawan Bisnis Indonesia
   dikutip dari www.bisnis.com

Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Dibanting, TBLA & UNSP Udah Ijo

[Kabu Nusi]

kereta unsp, tbla, lsip sudah penuh muatan ... pemanasan jez jez jez

aali, hmm  need a minute?

salam,


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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Dibanting, TBLA & UNSP Udah Ijo
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 6:47 AM

Mungkin Udah Saatnya Serbu AALI. Bagaimana menurut Anda?



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time will tell

[Vincent Chase]

abis beli bumi di 6300 cuman untung 1 pt langsung dibantai 5500

untung hr ini beli triple di 5500 hehhe

Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
udahlah...lupakan KEDUA SAHAM BUTUT  itu
 udah dibilang TIDAK AKAN NAEK...masih aja  NGETEKhuahauhauahua.
  
- Original Message - 
   From:BettinaTan 
   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:50AM
   Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it 
possible? time will tell
   

  Betul.. kesempatan untuk beli dengan harga lebih murah.. :-) tapi kenapa  
  LME kenapa stagnan ya pak..?

   
On 7/24/08, TH<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: 
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a4UeL2qoDeVc
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aXn_zqsR68Xg
Ini  berita yg lbh baru, nikel jatuh harganya pak.  

 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   NickelGains in London as Stockpiles Decline to Eight-Month Low 
   By Chanyaporn Chanjaroen
   July 21 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel rebounded from a two-year low in London
as stockpiles of the metal used in stainless steel declined to the
smallest in eight months, indicating supply is slowing. 
   Inventories tracked by the London Metal Exchange dropped 6 percent this  
  month to 43,728 metric tons, the lowest since Nov. 23. BHP Billiton Ltd.  
  this month shut its Kalgoorlie refinery in Western Australia through June 
   2009, cutting sales of the metal by 25,000 tons, or about 57 percent of  
  existing LME stockpiles. 
   ``You probably started to see the impact from supply disruption in   
 Western Australia,'' Max Layton, an analyst at Macquarie Ltd. in London, said  
  today by phone. ``It may be short- lived and overall we see a small   
 surplus this year.'' 
   Nickel for delivery in three months increased $150, or 0.7 percent, to   
 $20,550 a ton as of 4:55 p.m. London time. The contract closed July 18 at  
  $20,400 a ton, the lowest since June 28, 2006. 
   The metal is headed for a second consecutive annual drop, after last 
   year's 21 percent decline as stainless-steel mills resorted to products  
  containing less nickel. Prices may have to fall to about $15,000 a ton to 
   lure back consumers, Charles Cooper, an analyst at Evolution Securities 
Ltd.,said today. 
   Boliden AB, the second-largest producer of zinc in Europe, said
production at the Tara zinc and lead mine in Ireland will decline
``slightly'' in the next six to nine months, extending a drop from the
first half. 
   The mine produced an equivalent of 104,019 tons of zinc metal during 
   January to June, down 7 percent from a year ago, the Stockholm-based
company said today in an earnings statement. Lead output fell 11 percent
to 13,765 tons. 
   Mine Closures 
   Zinc prices have slumped 22 percent this year and lead 20 percent,   
 making mines unprofitable. Tech Cominco Ltd., owner of the world's largest 
   zinc mine, said July 15 it would close its Lennard Shelf Pillara mine in 
   Western Australia next month, earlier than planned. 
   Lead jumped $65, or 3.3 percent, to $2,035 a ton and zinc added $20, or  
  1.1 percent, to $1,840. 
   Stockpiles of copper monitored by the exchange have increased 5 percent  
  this month to 128,725 tons, the highest since March 12. As inventories
have been held by ``only a few market participants,'' availability is   
 limited, Norddeutsche Affinerie AG, Europe's largest copper refiner, said  
  today in an e-mailed newsletter. 
   Copper for immediate delivery traded at a premium of $241 a ton above
the benchmark price on July 17, the highest since August 2005 and
indicating a shortage of nearby futures contracts. The spread was $234 a
ton today. Borrowing fees for futures for tomorrow delivery were $35 a ton  
  a day. 
   Lost Output 
   Aluminum Corp. of China Ltd., the nation's biggest producer of the   
 lightweight metal, said it may lose 30,000 tons of output after it trimmed 
   some capacity at two ventures in Shanxi province because of a power
shortage. 
   Shanxi Huaze Aluminum & Power Co. suspended 25 percent of its
280,000-ton annual capacity as of July 18, and Shanxi Huasheng Aluminum
Co. stopped 22 percent of its 220,000-ton capacity, Chalco, as the company  
  is known, said in a statement late that day. 
   Aluminum stockpiles on the LME added 4,975 tons, or 0.4 percent, to  
  1.12 million tons, the highest since May 12, 2004. The contract rose $7 to
$3,040 a ton. 
   Tin increased $75 to $23,500. 
   To contact 

[obrolan-bandar] AALI Dibanting, TBLA & UNSP Udah Ijo

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Mungkin Udah Saatnya Serbu AALI. Bagaimana menurut Anda?

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 8500

[datasahamku]

Td BUMI sempat menyentuh 5850...tanda2 rebound mulai nampak...volume
BID mulai tebalpasukan berani diguyur sudah tertata rapi :D
 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> 
> November pemilu di US, Obama hampir pasti menang. Tentara US akan
sgr ditarik dr Irak, kmdn US damai dgn Iran. Ekonomi US sgr bangkit
kalo dipimpin Democrat. By the time minyak akan kembali 2 digit. 
> 
> Komoditi lebih tahan thd penurunan minyak, krn komoditi bisa dimakan
manusia dan hewan(penduduk dunia terus bertambah), CPO dikonsumsi,
wheat, jagung dll  juga dimakan. Kalo Coal, sapa yg mau makan? Sapi
dan kambing aja gak doyan.. 
> 
> Good bye BUMI dan Coal (Bumi berputar!).
> 
> 
> 
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "datasahamku" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:18:44 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600
> 
> 
> BUMI support kuat di 5.500 klo ga kuat nembus berarti alamat rebound
> ke 8.000 lagi :D
> 
> yang SELL BUMI saya tampung deh...
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ajo Ramon  wrote:
> >
> > Mr Andy Lou ini bandarkah?  Prediksinya tentang BUMI dan PGAS okeh
> punya,,kira2 BUMI mau dibawa kemana yah?? Salam buat Dileep ya.
> > BTW, saya sense bahwa trio metal udah saatnya buat bangkit,,,so
> mungkin tidak semua komoditi kalee,,
> > 
> > - Original Message 
> > From: andy lou 
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:15:08 PM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600
> > 
> > 
> > SELL semua saham komoditi
> >  
> >  
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600

[paramanandana]

November pemilu di US, Obama hampir pasti menang. Tentara US akan sgr ditarik 
dr Irak, kmdn US damai dgn Iran. Ekonomi US sgr bangkit kalo dipimpin Democrat. 
By the time minyak akan kembali 2 digit. 

Komoditi lebih tahan thd penurunan minyak, krn komoditi bisa dimakan manusia 
dan hewan(penduduk dunia terus bertambah), CPO dikonsumsi, wheat, jagung dll  
juga dimakan. Kalo Coal, sapa yg mau makan? Sapi dan kambing aja gak doyan.. 

Good bye BUMI dan Coal (Bumi berputar!).



Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry�

-Original Message-
From: "datasahamku" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:18:44 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600


BUMI support kuat di 5.500 klo ga kuat nembus berarti alamat rebound
ke 8.000 lagi :D

yang SELL BUMI saya tampung deh...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mr Andy Lou ini bandarkah?  Prediksinya tentang BUMI dan PGAS okeh
punya,,kira2 BUMI mau dibawa kemana yah?? Salam buat Dileep ya.
> BTW, saya sense bahwa trio metal udah saatnya buat bangkit,,,so
mungkin tidak semua komoditi kalee,,
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:15:08 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600
> 
> 
> SELL semua saham komoditi
>  
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update: On the way to 5000

[jos_martino]

Iya, 4500 dibulan September 2008. Tetapi bisa kemungkinan lebih 
cepat, tergantung kecepatan turun minyak bumi.

Prediksi saya di 5000 nanti ada technical rebound yang lumayan, 
sebelum jatuh ke 4500.

PTBA saya ngga begitu ngikutin, tapi karena sama-sama coal 
pergerakannya mirip BUMI.

Bukan ajakan jual/beli
rgs,
JM


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Paulus Tangke Allo" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> kalau gak salah pak jm pernah bilang bottom-nya sekitar 4500 deh
> 
> 
> --pta
> 
> 
> 2008/7/23 darwin.ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Pak JM, di angka berapa bottom BUMI dan kapan akan rebound?
> > Bagaimana dengan PTBA? Apakah akan rebound atau merosot terus? 
Thanks.
>

[obrolan-bandar] Trading Opportunity midday data

[Hok1]

Terlampir data peta perang untuk sesi 2. Terlihat gejala2 akan ada switching 
lagi. Bagi yang tdk bisa membuka attachment, bisa download di 
http://hok1-investama.com/downloads.php

Happy Cuan And Merry Safe Trading
Hok1

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Hehehe... benyul. Banyak yang sakti di milis OB ini.
Klo diperhatikan banyak juga FM dan pengelola dana di milis ini. Keep
watching aja. Dan seperti yang dilakukan om Edwin aja...pandai2 sortir
postingan aja.

2008/7/24 Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Mr Andy Lou ini bandarkah?  Prediksinya tentang BUMI dan PGAS okeh
> punya,,kira2 BUMI mau dibawa kemana yah?? Salam buat Dileep ya.
>
> BTW, saya sense bahwa trio metal udah saatnya buat bangkit,,,so mungkin
> tidak semua komoditi kalee,,
> - Original Message 
> From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:15:08 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600
>
> SELL semua saham komoditi

AW: [obrolan-bandar] Watch KLBF

[Cleopatras Cat]

belum tuntas Bu.

awal August.

--- Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:
Von: Maddy Vain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: [obrolan-bandar] Watch KLBF
An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 3:06












Proses buy back berakhir!
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600

[datasahamku]

BUMI support kuat di 5.500 klo ga kuat nembus berarti alamat rebound
ke 8.000 lagi :D

yang SELL BUMI saya tampung deh...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mr Andy Lou ini bandarkah?  Prediksinya tentang BUMI dan PGAS okeh
punya,,kira2 BUMI mau dibawa kemana yah?? Salam buat Dileep ya.
> BTW, saya sense bahwa trio metal udah saatnya buat bangkit,,,so
mungkin tidak semua komoditi kalee,,
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:15:08 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600
> 
> 
> SELL semua saham komoditi
>  
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

[Cleopatras Cat]

ga konsen makan nya Pak. abis mratiin Bu Vera aja. tatapan matanya itu lho, 
senyum maniz nya, tutur katanya. 

haregene masih nonton Cinta Laura? phewww

makanya ga sengaja makanan nya kecopet saya waktu itu haha

--- farhan zailani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Do, 24.7.2008:
Von: farhan zailani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik
An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008, 4:15











Wah Pak CC, makanannya pasti istimewa juga ya?
 




- Original Message 
From: Cleopatras Cat 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:28:09 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik







wah. Pak AW.

Bu Vera mah ga punya fs. tapi maniz pisan. saya sering nanya nanya TA sama 
Beliau karena Beliau lumayan jago TA biarpun ga pernah posting TA di OB. 

duh. saya jadi ingat kesalahan saya waktu itu ;-( tanpa sengaja mengambil 
makanan Beliau karena saya vegetarien. eh ternyata Beliau jg tidak terlalu 
carnivora.

mea culpa, sweetie*
mea culpa
mea maxima culpa

*sweetie : Vera

--- Andi Wahyudi  schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:

Von: Andi Wahyudi 
Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik
An: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 12:11














Ah saya ndak yakin Pak kl cewek betulan..soalnya belum liat FS-nya
Sorry Pak DE; saya duluin he he

2008/7/23 Cleopatras Cat :
> ya beginilah Bu, nasib kuli. ga bisa beli BUMI, PTBA dan kawan kawan nya.
> jadi nyopet nyopet yg lebih murah aja. lumayan kalo dapur bisa tetep ngebul,
> & perut terasa hangat.
>
> buat temans OB yg lain. sekedar Info saja. Bu Vera ini asli cewe. bukan jadi
> jadian hehe saya telah mendapat kehormatan untuk berkenalan dengan beliau
> beberapa waktu lalu. Beliau sangat terpelajar, cantik & sexy. tapi karena
> kesibukan pekerjaan, Ibu Vera sampai saat ini belum mempunyai waktu untuk
> teman yang speziell.
>
> sayangnya, Beliau & saya beda kelas. ya Beliau di PTBA, saya di kasta CNKO.
> dan lg saya pernah melakukan kesalahan besar, yaitu mengambil makanan Beliau
> tanpa sengaja
 ;-(
>
> post scriptum: Bu, masih di kantor?
>
> --- Vera  schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:
>
> Von: Vera 
> Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik
> An: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 9:52
>
> Wah Pak CC jgn sampe batal married gara2 BBNI neh :D
>
> Jgn lupa tar sama sovenir sahamnya ya...
>
> Cheers,
> Vera

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI Update

[Aria Santoso]

"Meine verione" attached. Ada yg salah kayaknya... :(

-Original Message-
From: hendrik_lwww [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:59 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI Update


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Aria Santoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Descending triangle-nya yg mana ya pak? Sy kok gak keliatan. Maaf ya, 
> mohon petunjuknya...
> 
mungkin ngga ada,he3...
(meine versione)
<>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?

[Ajo Ramon]

yang di saham CPO dong,,,silahkan pelajari struktur bisnis CPO ini, 
plasma-inti, etc,,,sehingga kita tidak pukul rata kalo CPO turun maka semua 
bakal kena,,,



- Original Message 
From: exindo_trade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:55:56 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?


pesta minyak goreng dalam arti apa nih pak hehehehe.
Bisa artinya pesta karena pada cuan di saham CPO akibat CPO rebound, 
ato pesta minyak goreng betulan karena harga minyak goreng turun 
berantakan. 
Jadi pesta yg mana nih pak. :>

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..> 
wrote:
>
> Serahkan saja CPO ke ahlinya, next week kita pesta minyak goreng 
yuukk,,,
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: andy lou 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:19:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?
> 
> 
> Sebaik nya tunggu AALI di 18rb aja...
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Rei  wrote:
> 
> From: Rei 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 5:53 AM
> 
> 
> Setuju! Makanya tinggal tergantung time frame...yg suka ST nggak 
mungkin kita paksakan LT, yg suka LT nggak mungkin dipaksakan 
ST...nanti marketnya boring... 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: pemainedan 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:34:52 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?
> 
> 
> tergantung anda. kl utk invest, skr2 masuk jg monggo. kl utk mid 
> term/spekulasi, mgkn mau coba lihat2 20k & 18k, atau kl perlu 
target-
> nya OD: 11.5k... hehehe... tp kl mau short-term banget, mending 
liat2 
> yg lg nge-boom deh... banking + property, ktnya sih. 
> 
> cuma kl property saya sgt tdk sreg. emiten2 property di sini saya 
> ragukan transparansi infonya. jg relatif tll small-cap, rawan 
konflik 
> internal interest yg bisa merugikan retail shareholders. kl mau 
coba, 
> silakan, saran: jgn main dg capital besar, buat mainan saja.
> 
> LT sih min. bisa 40rb, koq. skr cm lg kena perfect storm aja. 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jimmy widjaya 
>  wrote:
> >
> > AALI masuk diharga berapa ya? Thank You Guys...
> >
>

 


  

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?

[tV kun0]

Pak AJ, klo ngajak pesta minyak goreng minggu depan, bisa dikonfirmasi gak
dengan undangannya?

Ntar klo masuk sendiri-sendiri, minggu depan malah digebukin habis2an. 

istilah tuan rumah, tamu tak diundang..=p

 

Yakin niih pak, next week pesta minyak goleng?

 

 

sm;)e

tV.kun0

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Ajo Ramon
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:49 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?

 

Serahkan saja CPO ke ahlinya, next week kita pesta minyak goreng yuukk,,,

 

- Original Message 
From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:19:53 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?


Sebaik nya tunggu AALI di 18rb aja...

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Rei http://yahoo.com/> >
wrote:

From: Rei 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 5:53 AM

Setuju! Makanya tinggal tergantung time frame...yg suka ST nggak mungkin
kita paksakan LT, yg suka LT nggak mungkin dipaksakan ST...nanti marketnya
boring... 

 

 

- Original Message 
From: pemainedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:34:52 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?

tergantung anda. kl utk invest, skr2 masuk jg monggo. kl utk mid 
term/spekulasi, mgkn mau coba lihat2 20k & 18k, atau kl perlu target-
nya OD: 11.5k... hehehe... tp kl mau short-term banget, mending liat2 
yg lg nge-boom deh... banking + property, ktnya sih. 

cuma kl property saya sgt tdk sreg. emiten2 property di sini saya 
ragukan transparansi infonya. jg relatif tll small-cap, rawan konflik 
internal interest yg bisa merugikan retail shareholders. kl mau coba, 
silakan, saran: jgn main dg capital besar, buat mainan saja.

LT sih min. bisa 40rb, koq. skr cm lg kena perfect storm aja. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com, jimmy widjaya 
 wrote:
>
> AALI masuk diharga berapa ya? Thank You Guys...
>

 

 

 

<><>

[obrolan-bandar] ELTY lagi DISTRIBUSI

[Pemain Mini]

hati2 yg pegang ELTY..
buang dulu selagi bisa

[obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI Update

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Aria Santoso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Descending triangle-nya yg mana ya pak? Sy kok gak keliatan. Maaf ya,
> mohon petunjuknya...
> 
mungkin ngga ada,he3...
(meine versione)

RE: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update

[Aria Santoso]

Descending triangle-nya yg mana ya pak? Sy kok gak keliatan. Maaf ya,
mohon petunjuknya...

-Original Message-
From: hendrik_lwww [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:21 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update


bisa ke 14.000 ?
Secara worst CASE lah...
anything posible.. BELIVE?

chart : 
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/07/aali-update_23.html

[obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?

[exindo_trade]

pesta minyak goreng dalam arti apa nih pak hehehehe.
Bisa artinya pesta karena pada cuan di saham CPO akibat CPO rebound, 
ato pesta minyak goreng betulan karena harga minyak goreng turun 
berantakan. 
Jadi pesta yg mana nih pak. :>


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Serahkan saja CPO ke ahlinya, next week kita pesta minyak goreng 
yuukk,,,
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:19:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?
> 
> 
> Sebaik nya tunggu AALI di 18rb aja...
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Rei  wrote:
> 
> From: Rei 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 5:53 AM
> 
> 
> Setuju! Makanya tinggal tergantung time frame...yg suka ST nggak 
mungkin kita paksakan LT, yg suka LT nggak mungkin dipaksakan 
ST...nanti marketnya boring... 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: pemainedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:34:52 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?
> 
> 
> tergantung anda. kl utk invest, skr2 masuk jg monggo. kl utk mid 
> term/spekulasi, mgkn mau coba lihat2 20k & 18k, atau kl perlu 
target-
> nya OD: 11.5k... hehehe... tp kl mau short-term banget, mending 
liat2 
> yg lg nge-boom deh... banking + property, ktnya sih. 
> 
> cuma kl property saya sgt tdk sreg. emiten2 property di sini saya 
> ragukan transparansi infonya. jg relatif tll small-cap, rawan 
konflik 
> internal interest yg bisa merugikan retail shareholders. kl mau 
coba, 
> silakan, saran: jgn main dg capital besar, buat mainan saja.
> 
> LT sih min. bisa 40rb, koq. skr cm lg kena perfect storm aja. 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jimmy widjaya 
>  wrote:
> >
> > AALI masuk diharga berapa ya? Thank You Guys...
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update

[Tjen Hartono]

Makanya pak, ntar stlh euphoria finance properti dkk mulai mereda, akan muncul 
berita2 
ternyata walau penurunan harga OIL, COAL, CPO, kinerja saham2 COAL & CPO & 
METAL OUTPERFORM, diatas estimasi para analis2, rekomendasi -> STRONG BUY 
hehhehe

Jadi kalo beli saat itu TELAT LAGI DEH judulnya.
 
Tetep_Keukeuh.com
 
 

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Big Fat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Big Fat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:17 PM











Kenapa aali turun trus yah, padahal yg saya baca dikoran, turunnya harga CPO 
gak terlalu pengaruh ke AALI krn harganya CPO saat ini masih diatas harga CPO 
thn lalu. lagian kontrak pengiriman CPO dari AALI itu udah fixed samapai akhir 
thn ini yang berarti gak akan pengaruh dong walalpun harga CPO skrg turun.
 
Tolong dikoreksi yah rekan2 kl saya salah. Mohon bantuan and infonya. Thanks


--- On Wed, 7/23/08, hendrik_lwww  wrote:

From: hendrik_lwww 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:21 PM




bisa ke 14.000 ?
Secara worst CASE lah...
anything posible.. BELIVE?

chart : 
http://dolgado. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/aali-update_ 23.html


 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?

[Ajo Ramon]

Serahkan saja CPO ke ahlinya, next week kita pesta minyak goreng yuukk,,,



- Original Message 
From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:19:53 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?


Sebaik nya tunggu AALI di 18rb aja...

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Rei  wrote:

From: Rei 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 5:53 AM


Setuju! Makanya tinggal tergantung time frame...yg suka ST nggak mungkin kita 
paksakan LT, yg suka LT nggak mungkin dipaksakan ST...nanti marketnya boring... 



- Original Message 
From: pemainedan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:34:52 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI masuk di harga berapa ?


tergantung anda. kl utk invest, skr2 masuk jg monggo. kl utk mid 
term/spekulasi, mgkn mau coba lihat2 20k & 18k, atau kl perlu target-
nya OD: 11.5k... hehehe... tp kl mau short-term banget, mending liat2 
yg lg nge-boom deh... banking + property, ktnya sih. 

cuma kl property saya sgt tdk sreg. emiten2 property di sini saya 
ragukan transparansi infonya. jg relatif tll small-cap, rawan konflik 
internal interest yg bisa merugikan retail shareholders. kl mau coba, 
silakan, saran: jgn main dg capital besar, buat mainan saja.

LT sih min. bisa 40rb, koq. skr cm lg kena perfect storm aja. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jimmy widjaya 
 wrote:
>
> AALI masuk diharga berapa ya? Thank You Guys...
>


 
 


  

AW: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBNI 1350 plus

[Cleopatras Cat]

saya ga trading tiap hari Pak. makanya kalo lg ada opportunity kaya gini ya 
gebukan duit nya kudu berasa. kaya tempo doeloe Pak Boy YR dgn KLBF nya saya jg 
masuk sekuyup kuyup nya ampe lepek selepek lepek nya hahaha

tenkiu nasihatnya. saya akan ati ati kok. CUAN nya jg sebagian besar buat 
nolongin binatang binatang yg terlantar. incl. binatang yg disiksa orang orang 
di tanah air tercinta saya ini.

--- hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Do, 24.7.2008:
Von: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBNI 1350 plus
An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008, 5:39











--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Cleopatras Cat 

 wrote:

>

> wew! sudah saya avg up. saya dah nyebur se nyebur nyebur nya mulai 

dari kemaren itu. jok belakang, carpetnya dah kebeli. tapi wipernya 

belon.

> 

> tuk tuk atawa prado?

> 

> tenkiu Pak HL.

> 

> mau saya tuntaskan. tapi bau duit bener bener merangsang.

> 

tetap hati2 pak... 

Greed adalah awal kehancuran.. .

anyway belum ada signal SELL sih dari BBNi..




  




 

















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Dem pfiffigeren Posteingang.
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600

[Ajo Ramon]

Mr Andy Lou ini bandarkah?  Prediksinya tentang BUMI dan PGAS okeh punya,,kira2 
BUMI mau dibawa kemana yah?? Salam buat Dileep ya.
BTW, saya sense bahwa trio metal udah saatnya buat bangkit,,,so mungkin tidak 
semua komoditi kalee,,

- Original Message 
From: andy lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:15:08 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Besok IHSG merah, BUMI menuju 5600


SELL semua saham komoditi
 
  
 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..

[farhan zailani]

ha..ha...bukan BOZZ namanya kalau bangun aja telat dan belanja sendiri...ha..ha



- Original Message 
From: artomoro9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:15:32 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..


Tiap hari, tiap menit harga saham TURUN dan NAIK sedangkan informasi
tentang company RELATIF TIDAK BERUBAH.

Jadi RELEVANSI ANALISA FUNDAMENTAL seharusnya untuk JANGKA
PANJANG kecuali ada BERITA BARU. Tapi harus juga DIINGAT bahwa
BERITA LAMA bisa dijadikan BERITA BARU denga ditulis ulang dikoran
atau di milis.

KENAPA BISA ?. Coba anda perhatikan IKLAN di TV yang
diulang ulang BERUNTUN untuk mempengaruhi para DUMBER CONSUMEN.

Begitu juga otak para TRADER/INVESTOR bisa di PROGRAM ULANG
Sedangkan untuk pergerakan harga saham harian orang berusaha
mencari JALAN LAIN, setiap orang punya Caranya masing masing
seperti INTERMARKET ANALYSIS, TA dll

SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..

ntar agak siangan mau belanja..

salam 

artomoro9

 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..

[farhan zailani]

ha..ha...bukan BOZZ namanya kalau bangun aja telat dan belanja sendiri...ha..ha



- Original Message 
From: artomoro9 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:15:32 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..


Tiap hari, tiap menit harga saham TURUN dan NAIK sedangkan informasi
tentang company RELATIF TIDAK BERUBAH.

Jadi RELEVANSI ANALISA FUNDAMENTAL seharusnya untuk JANGKA
PANJANG kecuali ada BERITA BARU. Tapi harus juga DIINGAT bahwa
BERITA LAMA bisa dijadikan BERITA BARU denga ditulis ulang dikoran
atau di milis.

KENAPA BISA ?. Coba anda perhatikan IKLAN di TV yang
diulang ulang BERUNTUN untuk mempengaruhi para DUMBER CONSUMEN.

Begitu juga otak para TRADER/INVESTOR bisa di PROGRAM ULANG
Sedangkan untuk pergerakan harga saham harian orang berusaha
mencari JALAN LAIN, setiap orang punya Caranya masing masing
seperti INTERMARKET ANALYSIS, TA dll

SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..

ntar agak siangan mau belanja..

salam 

artomoro9

 


  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI Update

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Herlambang, Calvin Nico" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kenapa MEDC sewaktu Oil lagi hot-hot-nya bisa turun sampe 2500?
> 
>  
> 
> Lalu setelah itu dia spike upward 100% sampai 5000an ?
> 
>  
> 
> Sepertinya jawabannya bisa digunakan untuk jawab pertanyaan Big 
Fat ;p
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -cnh-
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "rather than cursing the darkness, it is better to light a candle"
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Big Fat
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:17 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update
> 
>  
> 
> Kenapa aali turun trus yah, padahal yg saya baca dikoran, turunnya 
harga
> CPO gak terlalu pengaruh ke AALI krn harganya CPO saat ini masih 
diatas
> harga CPO thn lalu. lagian kontrak pengiriman CPO dari AALI itu udah
> fixed samapai akhir thn ini yang berarti gak akan pengaruh dong 
walalpun
> harga CPO skrg turun.
> 
>  
> 
> Tolong dikoreksi yah rekan2 kl saya salah. Mohon bantuan and 
infonya.
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/23/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   From: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>   Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:21 PM
> 
>   bisa ke 14.000 ?
>   Secara worst CASE lah...
>   anything posible.. BELIVE?
>   
>   chart : 
>   http://dolgado. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/aali-update_ 23.html
>  
> 
>  
> 
selau saya bilang...
lihat kedepan

Market ada yang namanya FAKTOR KEGILAAN PASAR
OPTIMISME BELEBIHAN dan PESIMISME BERLEBIHAN

kit beli saat PESISMISME BERLEBIHAN
contoh BUY INCO di 4000 saat INCO di harga ini snagat murah 
(penurunan INCO lebih extrim dari nikel) dan SELL saat OPTIMISME 
BERLEBIHAN (Kenaikan BUMI  > Batu bara)

jadi jangan heran kalau AALI harganya aneh2... 
ada faktor kegilaan pasar yang sering kita ngga bisa prediksi. 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time will tell

[Bagoes Narayana]

INCO close 4250 + 250
ANTM close 2475 +100

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Pemain Mini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  udahlah...lupakan KEDUA SAHAM BUTUT itu
> udah dibilang TIDAK AKAN NAEK...masih aja NGETEKhuahauhauahua.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Bettina Tan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:50 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it
> possible? time will tell
>
>  Betul.. kesempatan untuk beli dengan harga lebih murah.. :-) tapi kenapa
> LME kenapa stagnan ya pak..?
>
> On 7/24/08, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a4UeL2qoDeVc
>> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aXn_zqsR68Xg
>> Ini berita yg lbh baru, nikel jatuh harganya pak.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Nickel Gains in London as Stockpiles Decline to Eight-Month Low
>>>
>>> By Chanyaporn Chanjaroen
>>>
>>> July 21 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel rebounded from a two-year low in London as
>>> stockpiles of the metal used in stainless steel declined to the smallest in
>>> eight months, indicating supply is slowing.
>>>
>>> Inventories tracked by the London Metal Exchange dropped 6 percent this
>>> month to 43,728 metric tons, the lowest since Nov. 23. BHP Billiton Ltd.
>>> this month shut its Kalgoorlie refinery in Western Australia through June
>>> 2009, cutting sales of the metal by 25,000 tons, or about 57 percent of
>>> existing LME stockpiles.
>>>
>>> ``You probably started to see the impact from supply disruption in
>>> Western Australia,'' Max 
>>> Layton,
>>> an analyst at Macquarie Ltd. in London, said today by phone. ``It may be
>>> short- lived and overall we see a small surplus this year.''
>>>
>>> Nickel for delivery in three months increased $150, or 0.7 percent, to
>>> $20,550 a ton as of 4:55 p.m. London time. The contract closed July 18 at
>>> $20,400 a ton, the lowest since June 28, 2006.
>>>
>>> The metal is headed for a second consecutive annual drop, after last
>>> year's 21 percent decline as stainless-steel mills resorted to products
>>> containing less nickel. Prices may have to fall to about $15,000 a ton to
>>> lure back consumers, Charles 
>>> Cooper,
>>> an analyst at Evolution Securities Ltd., said today.
>>>
>>> Boliden AB, the second-largest producer of zinc in Europe, said
>>> production at the Tara zinc and lead mine in Ireland will decline
>>> ``slightly'' in the next six to nine months, extending a drop from the first
>>> half.
>>>
>>> The mine produced an equivalent of 104,019 tons of zinc metal during
>>> January to June, down 7 percent from a year ago, the Stockholm-based company
>>> said today in an earnings statement. Lead output fell 11 percent to 13,765
>>> tons.
>>>
>>> Mine Closures
>>>
>>> Zinc prices have slumped 22 percent this year and lead 20 percent, making
>>> mines unprofitable. Tech Cominco Ltd., owner of the world's largest zinc
>>> mine, said July 15 it would close its Lennard Shelf Pillara mine in Western
>>> Australia next month, earlier than planned.
>>>
>>> Lead jumped $65, or 3.3 percent, to $2,035 a ton and zinc added $20, or
>>> 1.1 percent, to $1,840.
>>>
>>> Stockpiles of copper monitored by the exchange have increased 5 percent
>>> this month to 128,725 tons, the highest since March 12. As inventories have
>>> been held by ``only a few market participants,'' availability is limited,
>>> Norddeutsche Affinerie AG, Europe's largest copper refiner, said today in an
>>> e-mailed newsletter.
>>>
>>> Copper for immediate delivery traded at a premium of $241 a ton above the
>>> benchmark price on July 17, the highest since August 2005 and indicating a
>>> shortage of nearby futures contracts. The spread was $234 a ton today.
>>> Borrowing fees for futures for tomorrow delivery were $35 a ton a day.
>>>
>>> Lost Output
>>>
>>> Aluminum Corp. of China Ltd., the nation's biggest producer of the
>>> lightweight metal, said it may lose 30,000 tons of output after it trimmed
>>> some capacity at two ventures in Shanxi province because of a power
>>> shortage.
>>>
>>> Shanxi Huaze Aluminum & Power Co. suspended 25 percent of its 280,000-ton
>>> annual capacity as of July 18, and Shanxi Huasheng Aluminum Co. stopped 22
>>> percent of its 220,000-ton capacity, Chalco, as the company is known, said
>>> in a statement late that day.
>>>
>>> Aluminum stockpiles on the LME added 4,975 tons, or 0.4 percent, to 1.12
>>> million tons, the highest since May 12, 2004. The contract rose $7 to $3,040
>>> a ton.
>>>
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BBNI 1350 plus

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Cleopatras Cat 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> wew! sudah saya avg up. saya dah nyebur se nyebur nyebur nya mulai 
dari kemaren itu. jok belakang, carpetnya dah kebeli. tapi wipernya 
belon.
> 
> tuk tuk atawa prado?
> 
> tenkiu Pak HL.
> 
> mau saya tuntaskan. tapi bau duit bener bener merangsang.
> 
tetap hati2 pak... 
Greed adalah awal kehancuran...
anyway belum ada signal SELL sih dari BBNi..

AW: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI 1350 plus

[Cleopatras Cat]

wew! sudah saya avg up. saya dah nyebur se nyebur nyebur nya mulai dari kemaren 
itu. jok belakang, carpetnya dah kebeli. tapi wipernya belon.

tuk tuk atawa prado?

tenkiu Pak HL.

mau saya tuntaskan. tapi bau duit bener bener merangsang.

--- hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Do, 24.7.2008:
Von: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI 1350
An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2008, 2:52











udah kubilang kan. I TOLD YOU..

bener tuh 1350..

hanya pak CC yang percaya tuh.. bener kan.he3...



BCANDA Friends...

sombong banget kata2 di atas,he3...

orang yang bilang ini aja ngerasa bersalah saat ngomong ini,he3...




  




 

















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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update

[Bagoes Narayana]

Sampe deh bung HLWWW ke 14rb hari ini juga kayaknya tuh. CPO naik tapinya
today

2008/7/24 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> bisa ke 14.000 ?
> Secara worst CASE lah...
> anything posible.. BELIVE?
>
> chart :
> http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/07/aali-update_23.html
>
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update

[Herlambang, Calvin Nico]

Kenapa MEDC sewaktu Oil lagi hot-hot-nya bisa turun sampe 2500?

 

Lalu setelah itu dia spike upward 100% sampai 5000an ?

 

Sepertinya jawabannya bisa digunakan untuk jawab pertanyaan Big Fat ;p

 

Thank you

Regards,

-cnh-

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"rather than cursing the darkness, it is better to light a candle"

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Big Fat
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:17 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update

 

Kenapa aali turun trus yah, padahal yg saya baca dikoran, turunnya harga
CPO gak terlalu pengaruh ke AALI krn harganya CPO saat ini masih diatas
harga CPO thn lalu. lagian kontrak pengiriman CPO dari AALI itu udah
fixed samapai akhir thn ini yang berarti gak akan pengaruh dong walalpun
harga CPO skrg turun.

 

Tolong dikoreksi yah rekan2 kl saya salah. Mohon bantuan and infonya.
Thanks



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From: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:21 PM

bisa ke 14.000 ?
Secara worst CASE lah...
anything posible.. BELIVE?

chart : 
http://dolgado. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/aali-update_ 23.html
 

 

 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Back to Metal

[tV kun0]

BK tuuh yg lagi ngumpulin.dan yg dikumpulin ANTM(19.4) dan INCO (14.8B) .
biasanya siih klo BK yg ngumpulin, gak lama pasti naek tuuh.

Seperti BBRI pertengahan bulan 6 dihajar sampe ke 4700an. BK aja tuuh yg
nampungin buangan2 sekuritas asing laennya selama bbrp hari.

Klo mau masuk nickel siih, saran saya siih prepare for the worst aja
(nyangkut big time) klo sahamnya naek,.. syukur. Klo ga jd naek, paling gak
mental udah disiapkan untuk nyangkut.

Hehehe.. Peace.!!

 

sm;)e

 

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of vale sutomo
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:08 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Back to Metal

 

Bener sepertinya pak.

masuknya halus..

 

Pada tanggal 24/07/08, vale sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: 

Anda Luar Biasa.

Apakah anda tahu gerakan FM sampai seperti itu.

Saya memang dengar rumornya, waktu ngobrol di EX kemarin

 

saya kira di INCO & ANTM yang akan ditarik Mas RAMON.

 

INCO sekitar 8500 an target

ANTM tetap di 5500 an

 

TINS bisa saja, tetapi FM kabarnya sudah banyak keluar. nunggu lah di bawah.
 

Best Regard's

 

Vale
 

Pada tanggal 24/07/08, Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis: 

Pencinta metal -trio INCO-ANTM-TINS, udah boleh bersiap-siap buat the next
run for tin and nickel.  Nickel kemarin dihajar which I think is the effort
from big FM to collect at the lower price dan offcourse buat mematikan
competition dari pig iron yang tersedak karena kenaikan harga iron.  U-turn
dari metal ini bisa di trigger oleh trend penurunan inventory -terutama
inventory tin yang udah dibawah 6000MT alias hanya cukup buat konsumsi
global kira2 5 hari, bayangkan kalau PT Timah tutup gara2 listrik mati 2
hari,,, - dan berkurangnya pressure dari tingginya mining costs karena harga
minyak.

 

Watch out, don't miss the point of the least resistant.

 

 

 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update

[Paulus Tangke Allo]

pelan-pelan lahh.
nge-tes 19600 dulu deh, kalau tembus, trus tes di 17500-an,
kalau sampai tembus juga, boleh lah 14000


--pta


2008/7/23 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> bisa ke 14.000 ?
> Secara worst CASE lah...
> anything posible.. BELIVE?

Re: [obrolan-bandar] SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..

[ocean.blue]

Kalo BOZZ mo belanja berarti index BAKALAN  turun lagi dong Pak?
Kira2 sektor mana yang lagi diincer BOZZ Pak?

Thanks 4 the iNFO..

rgds,


- Original Message - 
From: "artomoro9" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:15 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..


> Tiap hari, tiap menit harga saham TURUN dan NAIK sedangkan informasi
> tentang company RELATIF TIDAK BERUBAH.
> 
> Jadi RELEVANSI ANALISA FUNDAMENTAL seharusnya untuk JANGKA
> PANJANG kecuali ada BERITA BARU. Tapi harus juga DIINGAT bahwa
> BERITA LAMA bisa dijadikan BERITA BARU denga ditulis ulang dikoran
> atau di milis.
> 
> KENAPA BISA ?. Coba anda perhatikan IKLAN di TV yang
> diulang ulang BERUNTUN untuk mempengaruhi para DUMBER CONSUMEN.
> 
> Begitu juga otak para TRADER/INVESTOR bisa di PROGRAM ULANG
> Sedangkan untuk pergerakan harga saham harian orang berusaha
> mencari JALAN LAIN, setiap orang punya Caranya masing masing
> seperti INTERMARKET ANALYSIS, TA dll
> 
> SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..
> 
> ntar agak siangan mau belanja..
> 
> salam 
> 
> 
> artomoro9
> 
> 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP mau ribon?

[tV kun0]

Rata2 semua saham berbasis CPO sudah dalam kondisi oversold pak.

Saat ini KL-CPO sudah mulai rebound.

KL-CPO Last3086   High3087   Low3041   Change59   Change%1.95

 

Mudah2an siih reboundnya kuat. Kinerja AALI berdasarkan penjualan untuk 1H
sangat bagus, makanya tadi berani masuk.

Klo laporan keuangan AALI, LSIP, UNSP, dan SGRO pada bagus2, sepertinya
bakalan rebound siih. Tp, semuanya tergantung Bandar lah yahh.

Hehehe..

 

sm;)e

tV.kun0

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Muttaqien yk
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:48 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP mau ribon?

 

Ok siippp

2008/7/24 Yoseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

CMIIW.

Thx

 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPO Futures rebound !

[Landlord The]

*MARKET TALK: BMD CPO Futures Up Midday On Technical Rebound*   (24.07.2008
05:56)   [Dow Jones] BMD CPO futures higher on technical rebound, erasing
some losses from yesterday's heavy selling, but weakness in other markets
still weighing on prices, traders say. Charts show CPO futures technically
oversold, says S. Paramalingam, executive director of Malaysia-based
commodities brokerage Pelindung Bestari Bhd; adds CPO prices may now start
to stabilize, but if fall  in crude oil, soyoil futures continues, it will
have a spillover impact on palm oil. Benchmark BMD October CPO futures
trading MYR59 higher midday at MYR3,086/ton, close to intraday high of
MYR3,087. Traders put immediate resistance at MYR3,100.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:29 AM, ys Tjong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Dear All,
>
> BMD CPO Futures rebound in Midday 24 July 08 !
>
> rgds
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNSP mau ribon?

[Muttaqien yk]

Ok siippp

2008/7/24 Yoseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>   CMIIW.
>
> Thx
>  
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] IRC Chat Room #obrolanbandar

[Richard]

Gak ada tuh.. kosong.

Rgds, RIchard

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:47 AM
To: obrolan-bandar
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IRC Chat Room #obrolanbandar

 

Bukannya udah ada yah.
Top1.

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from XL GPRS/EDGE/3G network

  _  

From: "Rully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:32:00 -
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IRC Chat Room #obrolanbandar

Men temen,

bagaimana kalau kita buat chatroom di IRC, servernya dalnet aja, karena 
sistem pengamanannya lebih baik?

chatroom ini buka sepanjang waktu trading. mungkin kalau bisa, senior 
OB jadi Op atau malah moderatornya.

Salam,
Rully

 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update: On the way to 5000

[Paulus Tangke Allo]

kalau gak salah pak jm pernah bilang bottom-nya sekitar 4500 deh


--pta


2008/7/23 darwin.ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Pak JM, di angka berapa bottom BUMI dan kapan akan rebound?
> Bagaimana dengan PTBA? Apakah akan rebound atau merosot terus? Thanks.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IRC Chat Room #obrolanbandar

[sultan qatar]

ISAT SINYAL KUAT  I

Pada tanggal 24/07/08, Rully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
>   Men temen,
>
> bagaimana kalau kita buat chatroom di IRC, servernya dalnet aja, karena
> sistem pengamanannya lebih baik?
>
> chatroom ini buka sepanjang waktu trading. mungkin kalau bisa, senior
> OB jadi Op atau malah moderatornya.
>
> Salam,
> Rully
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] CPO Futures rebound !

[ys Tjong]

Dear All,

BMD CPO Futures rebound in Midday 24 July 08 !

rgds

Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh....

[Eko Yudianto]

Pak Jos,
maaf nih pertanyaan newbie banget,
kalau consumer ama infrastructure turun juga gimana dong ?
bukannya tambah jebol 
soalnya saya sempet cash out sebagian dengan cut loss, yang lain masih nyangkut 
lossnya udah kebanyakan soalnya
mau masuk ke consumer ama infrastructure, telat , ngeri bakal turun lagi
buat senior OB lain, please masukannya dong 
baiknya saat ini cash out aja apa sudah boleh tune in
kalo sudah boleh tune in masuknya ke saham sektor apa?
salam,
eyudi88
yanglagingerisaatini



- Pesan Asli 
Dari: jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Kamis, 24 Juli, 2008 11:01:09
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh


Eiit ...jangan takyu..uuut masih ada raksasa baru bangun tidur, 
Consumer and Infrastructure. ...bakal menopang index kita.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "thomaszone_ 2000" 
 wrote:
>
> Feeling ngga enak nichh banking properti kok rata2 udah 
> overbought semua ya?? kalo dilihat dari %K12 %D3... rata2 banking 
dah 
> mulai layak profit taking..
> 
> sementara oil masih downturn it means komoditi stock juga masih 
akan 
> jatuh...
> 
> mau switching juga masih takut kena PT di sektor non komoditi..
> 
> serba salah..
> 
> apalagi kata bos2 broker tempat saya main.. indeks possible ke 
1900.
> karena selama ini yang menahan penurunan komoditi Financial dan 
> properti..
> 
> kalo semua pada turun banget gimana ya jadinya indeks??
> 
> Trus barusan ngelihat juga.. Dow mulai ada tanda2 penurunan... 
karena 
> kalo mau nembus 11800 di fibo 100% kayaknya agak susah dalam waktu 
> deket..
> 
> 
> dan lucunya Dow ini... ternyata volume transaksi tiap harinya mulai 
> dari tangal 23 Juni ini sampe sekarang volume transaksi kecil 
banget 
> under average..
> 
> 
> yahh feeling gw bener ga enak.. akhirnya memutuskan cashout 
> beberapa saham.. untungnya masih cuan.. meski tipis sediihhh...
> 
> Ada gambaran view kedepan ngga para senior?? retailer lagi 
ketakutan 
> nih soalnya
>

 


  
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Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh....

[Eko Yudianto]

Pak Jos,
maaf nih pertanyaan newbie banget,
kalau consumer ama infrastructure turun juga gimana dong ?
bukannya tambah jebol 
soalnya saya sempet cash out sebagian dengan cut loss, yang lain masih nyangkut 
lossnya udah kebanyakan soalnya
mau masuk ke consumer ama infrastructure, telat , ngeri bakal turun lagi
buat senior OB lain, please masukannya dong 
baiknya saat ini cash out aja apa sudah boleh tune in
kalo sudah boleh tune in masuknya ke saham sektor apa?
salam,
eyudi88
yanglagingerisaatini



- Pesan Asli 
Dari: jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Kamis, 24 Juli, 2008 11:01:09
Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh


Eiit ...jangan takyu..uuut masih ada raksasa baru bangun tidur, 
Consumer and Infrastructure. ...bakal menopang index kita.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "thomaszone_ 2000" 
 wrote:
>
> Feeling ngga enak nichh banking properti kok rata2 udah 
> overbought semua ya?? kalo dilihat dari %K12 %D3... rata2 banking 
dah 
> mulai layak profit taking..
> 
> sementara oil masih downturn it means komoditi stock juga masih 
akan 
> jatuh...
> 
> mau switching juga masih takut kena PT di sektor non komoditi..
> 
> serba salah..
> 
> apalagi kata bos2 broker tempat saya main.. indeks possible ke 
1900.
> karena selama ini yang menahan penurunan komoditi Financial dan 
> properti..
> 
> kalo semua pada turun banget gimana ya jadinya indeks??
> 
> Trus barusan ngelihat juga.. Dow mulai ada tanda2 penurunan... 
karena 
> kalo mau nembus 11800 di fibo 100% kayaknya agak susah dalam waktu 
> deket..
> 
> 
> dan lucunya Dow ini... ternyata volume transaksi tiap harinya mulai 
> dari tangal 23 Juni ini sampe sekarang volume transaksi kecil 
banget 
> under average..
> 
> 
> yahh feeling gw bener ga enak.. akhirnya memutuskan cashout 
> beberapa saham.. untungnya masih cuan.. meski tipis sediihhh...
> 
> Ada gambaran view kedepan ngga para senior?? retailer lagi 
ketakutan 
> nih soalnya
>

 


  
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update

[Big Fat]

Kenapa aali turun trus yah, padahal yg saya baca dikoran, turunnya harga CPO 
gak terlalu pengaruh ke AALI krn harganya CPO saat ini masih diatas harga CPO 
thn lalu. lagian kontrak pengiriman CPO dari AALI itu udah fixed samapai akhir 
thn ini yang berarti gak akan pengaruh dong walalpun harga CPO skrg turun.
 
Tolong dikoreksi yah rekan2 kl saya salah. Mohon bantuan and infonya. Thanks


--- On Wed, 7/23/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:21 PM






bisa ke 14.000 ?
Secara worst CASE lah...
anything posible.. BELIVE?

chart : 
http://dolgado. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/aali-update_ 23.html

 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update

[Big Fat]

Kenapa aali turun trus yah, padahal yg saya baca dikoran, turunnya harga CPO 
gak terlalu pengaruh ke AALI krn harganya CPO saat ini masih diatas harga CPO 
thn lalu. lagian kontrak pengiriman CPO dari AALI itu udah fixed samapai akhir 
thn ini yang berarti gak akan pengaruh dong walalpun harga CPO skrg turun.
 
Tolong dikoreksi yah rekan2 kl saya salah. Mohon bantuan and infonya. Thanks


--- On Wed, 7/23/08, hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AALI Update
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:21 PM






bisa ke 14.000 ?
Secara worst CASE lah...
anything posible.. BELIVE?

chart : 
http://dolgado. blogspot. com/2008/ 07/aali-update_ 23.html

 














  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh....

[Hadiah 2000]

bocoran --> TLKM

2008/7/24 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>   Eiit ...jangan takyu..uuut masih ada raksasa baru bangun tidur,
> Consumer and Infrastructurebakal menopang index kita.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "thomaszone_2000"
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Feeling ngga enak nichh banking properti kok rata2 udah
> > overbought semua ya?? kalo dilihat dari %K12 %D3... rata2 banking
> dah
> > mulai layak profit taking..
> >
> > sementara oil masih downturn it means komoditi stock juga masih
> akan
> > jatuh...
> >
> > mau switching juga masih takut kena PT di sektor non komoditi..
> >
> > serba salah..
> >
> > apalagi kata bos2 broker tempat saya main.. indeks possible ke
> 1900.
> > karena selama ini yang menahan penurunan komoditi Financial dan
> > properti..
> >
> > kalo semua pada turun banget gimana ya jadinya indeks??
> >
> > Trus barusan ngelihat juga.. Dow mulai ada tanda2 penurunan...
> karena
> > kalo mau nembus 11800 di fibo 100% kayaknya agak susah dalam waktu
> > deket..
> >
> >
> > dan lucunya Dow ini.. ternyata volume transaksi tiap harinya mulai
> > dari tangal 23 Juni ini sampe sekarang volume transaksi kecil
> banget
> > under average..
> >
> >
> > yahh feeling gw bener ga enak.. akhirnya memutuskan cashout
> > beberapa saham.. untungnya masih cuan.. meski tipis sediihhh...
> >
> > Ada gambaran view kedepan ngga para senior?? retailer lagi
> ketakutan
> > nih soalnya
> >
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh....

[Yanuar Mustofa]

Kalo index bukan ditopang komoditi..kpn IDX sampe 3000-an.
sedangkan indonesia pusatnya sumber daya alam..

bank indonesia awal bulan mau naikin BI rates..banking n property bakalan 
nyungsep lg.
jadi boleh hajar kanan BUMI kayaknya nih..

Cmiiw



- Original Message 
From: jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 11:01:09
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh


Eiit ...jangan takyu..uuut masih ada raksasa baru bangun tidur, 
Consumer and Infrastructure. ...bakal menopang index kita.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "thomaszone_ 2000" 
 wrote:
>
> Feeling ngga enak nichh banking properti kok rata2 udah 
> overbought semua ya?? kalo dilihat dari %K12 %D3... rata2 banking 
dah 
> mulai layak profit taking..
> 
> sementara oil masih downturn it means komoditi stock juga masih 
akan 
> jatuh...
> 
> mau switching juga masih takut kena PT di sektor non komoditi..
> 
> serba salah..
> 
> apalagi kata bos2 broker tempat saya main.. indeks possible ke 
1900.
> karena selama ini yang menahan penurunan komoditi Financial dan 
> properti..
> 
> kalo semua pada turun banget gimana ya jadinya indeks??
> 
> Trus barusan ngelihat juga.. Dow mulai ada tanda2 penurunan... 
karena 
> kalo mau nembus 11800 di fibo 100% kayaknya agak susah dalam waktu 
> deket..
> 
> 
> dan lucunya Dow ini.. ternyata volume transaksi tiap harinya mulai 
> dari tangal 23 Juni ini sampe sekarang volume transaksi kecil 
banget 
> under average..
> 
> 
> yahh feeling gw bener ga enak.. akhirnya memutuskan cashout 
> beberapa saham.. untungnya masih cuan.. meski tipis sediihhh...
> 
> Ada gambaran view kedepan ngga para senior?? retailer lagi 
ketakutan 
> nih soalnya
>




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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[tV kun0]

Sepengetahuan sy siih rata2 0.07% per hari pak. Klo di LG dan OD kasi 0.05%
itu sy kurang tau.

Palagi yg seperti pak Iwan Budi katakan bisa margin perbulan. Bagus banget
tuuh klo bisa.

Cuma sayangnya yah itu dana nya kudu gede. Klo gak gede gak dianggap.
Hehehe.

 

Mmg siih pak, sebaiknya gak pake margin, makanya sy cukup tertarik dengan
system margin sampe 3bulanan itu.

Paling gak, agak aman untuk 3 bulan. Jika margin Cuma T+4 githu, sangat
riskan, karena dalam kurun waktu 1 minggu, harga saham yg kita beli udah
harus gain bbrp persen baru bisa profit.

 

Anyway,. thanks for the input!!!

 

Sm;)e

 

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Sudi Mampir
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:43 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

yg paling murah untuk rate marjin sejauh yg sy tahu di OD dan LG, sama2 rate
0.05%/hari atau 18% p.a.. saran saja pak klo msh newbie jgn dl pake
marjin..sebisa mungkin bandarologi, TA, FA dan sikap disiplin sudah dimiliki
bapak..

 

salam

 

sudi mampir

 

- Original Message 
From: tV kun0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:29:08 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

Ngomong2nin soal margin, sys mp skrg masih blom tau cara pake margin.

Tp dari sekuritas sy, siih, katanya klo mau pake margin, harus buka account
khusus. Iya gak siih?

Klo margin bisa pake yg bulanan, itu bagus juga kaenya,. tenggat waktu kita
jadi lebih tinggi.

Gak usah kuatir saham yg kita beli minggu depan bisa naek apa gak..

 

1.67%/bulan  = 20%/annum, sepertinya boleh lah yah.

Pak Iwan Budi, bisa di share nama sekuritas nya pak?

 

sm;)e

tV.kun0

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ps.com  ] On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:03 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

26% per annum, Pak Iwan.

wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!

nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?

Terima kasih dan salam,
Rully

--- In obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
>
> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
> 
> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, 
bisa
> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari.
> 
> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau 
bilang
> "I told you"
> 
> 
> 
> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
> 
> 
> 
> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin 
itu
> belanja sampe 130.
> 
> 
> 
> Bunganya 26%.
> 
> 
> 
> Anything better than this?
> 
> 
> 
> Please advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 2008/7/23 jos_martino   >:
> 
> 
> 
> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ 
yahoogroups. com
>  > , "Rully" 

> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> > 
> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Rully
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
> margin brp
> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
> aja
> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
> kecuali
> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
> sih di
> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
> lain
> >
>

 

 

<><>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Back to Metal

[vale sutomo]

Bener sepertinya pak.
masuknya halus..


Pada tanggal 24/07/08, vale sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
> Anda Luar Biasa.
> Apakah anda tahu gerakan FM sampai seperti itu.
> Saya memang dengar rumornya, waktu ngobrol di EX kemarin
>
> saya kira di INCO & ANTM yang akan ditarik Mas RAMON.
>
> INCO sekitar 8500 an target
> ANTM tetap di 5500 an
>
> TINS bisa saja, tetapi FM kabarnya sudah banyak keluar. nunggu lah di
> bawah.
>
> Best Regard's
>
> Vale
>
> Pada tanggal 24/07/08, Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>>
>>Pencinta metal -trio INCO-ANTM-TINS, udah boleh bersiap-siap buat the
>> next run for tin and nickel.  Nickel kemarin dihajar which I think is the
>> effort from big FM to collect at the lower price dan offcourse buat
>> mematikan competition dari pig iron yang tersedak karena kenaikan harga
>> iron.  U-turn dari metal ini bisa di trigger oleh trend penurunan inventory
>> -terutama inventory tin yang udah dibawah 6000MT alias hanya cukup buat
>> konsumsi global kira2 5 hari, bayangkan kalau PT Timah tutup gara2 listrik
>> mati 2 hari,,, - dan berkurangnya pressure dari tingginya mining costs
>> karena harga minyak.
>>
>> Watch out, don't miss the point of the least resistant.
>>
>>  
>>
>
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] AWAL . . .

[vale sutomo]

awal bulan depan

Pada tanggal 24/07/08, Bumi T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
>Bursa regional mulai banyak hijaunya di minggu ini. Apa ini petanda
> awal
>
> pemulihan ekonomi global dgn penurunan harga minyak ?
>
> Bagaimana dgn nasib investor di saham CPO dan batubara, apa ini
>
> akan jadi awal kegelisahan dgn penurunan harga minyak ?
>
> --
> Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru
> 
> Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan
> @rocketmail. br> Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Back to Metal

[vale sutomo]

Anda Luar Biasa.
Apakah anda tahu gerakan FM sampai seperti itu.
Saya memang dengar rumornya, waktu ngobrol di EX kemarin

saya kira di INCO & ANTM yang akan ditarik Mas RAMON.

INCO sekitar 8500 an target
ANTM tetap di 5500 an

TINS bisa saja, tetapi FM kabarnya sudah banyak keluar. nunggu lah di bawah.

Best Regard's

Vale

Pada tanggal 24/07/08, Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
>Pencinta metal -trio INCO-ANTM-TINS, udah boleh bersiap-siap buat the
> next run for tin and nickel.  Nickel kemarin dihajar which I think is the
> effort from big FM to collect at the lower price dan offcourse buat
> mematikan competition dari pig iron yang tersedak karena kenaikan harga
> iron.  U-turn dari metal ini bisa di trigger oleh trend penurunan inventory
> -terutama inventory tin yang udah dibawah 6000MT alias hanya cukup buat
> konsumsi global kira2 5 hari, bayangkan kalau PT Timah tutup gara2 listrik
> mati 2 hari,,, - dan berkurangnya pressure dari tingginya mining costs
> karena harga minyak.
>
> Watch out, don't miss the point of the least resistant.
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[melani kusuma]

Margin 26 % 
Ada yang dibawah itu koq, cuma 19 %/thn

Pada tanggal 24/07/08, tV kun0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> Ngomong2nin soal margin, sys mp skrg masih blom tau cara pake margin.
>
> Tp dari sekuritas sy, siih, katanya klo mau pake margin, harus buka account
> khusus. Iya gak siih?
>
> Klo margin bisa pake yg bulanan, itu bagus juga kaenya,. tenggat waktu kita
> jadi lebih tinggi.
>
> Gak usah kuatir saham yg kita beli minggu depan bisa naek apa gak..
>
>
>
> 1.67%/bulan  = 20%/annum, sepertinya boleh lah yah.
>
> Pak Iwan Budi, bisa di share nama sekuritas nya pak?
>
>
>
> sm;)e
>
> tV.kun0
>
>
>
>
>
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rully
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:03 AM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin
>
>
>
> 26% per annum, Pak Iwan.
>
> wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!
>
> nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?
>
> Terima kasih dan salam,
> Rully
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>  , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
>>
>> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+,
> bisa
>> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari.
>>
>> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> 
>> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>  ] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> 
>> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau
> bilang
>> "I told you"
>>
>>
>>
>> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
>>
>>
>>
>> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin
> itu
>> belanja sampe 130.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bunganya 26%.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anything better than this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Please advice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> 2008/7/23 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  >:
>>
>>
>>
>> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> 
>>  , "Rully"
> 
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
>> >
>> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
>> >
>> > Salam,
>> > Rully
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> 
>>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
>> >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah
>> margin brp
>> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar
>> aja
>> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh.
>> kecuali
>> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang
>> sih di
>> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg
>> lain
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update: On the way to 5000

[darwin.ma]

Pak JM, di angka berapa bottom BUMI dan kapan akan rebound? 
Bagaimana dengan PTBA? Apakah akan rebound atau merosot terus? Thanks. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jos_martino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Formasi Shooting Star sudah terbentuk, menandakan bearish continuation.
> Ternyata technical rebound kemarin hanya sampai 6400 saja.
> 
> Siap TERJUN BEBAS ke 5000
> 
> Disc on
> rgs,
> JM
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update: On the way to 5000

[darwin.ma]

Pak JM, di angka brp bottom BUMI dan kapan akan rebound?
Bgmn dgn PTBA? Apakah akan rebound atau merosot terus? 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jos_martino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Formasi Shooting Star sudah terbentuk, menandakan bearish continuation.
> Ternyata technical rebound kemarin hanya sampai 6400 saja.
> 
> Siap TERJUN BEBAS ke 5000
> 
> Disc on
> rgs,
> JM
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[tV kun0]

dana margin minimum 500jt..mmm gede juga yahh.

batal ahh.. 

 

Thanks buat info nya yah pak. Paling gak bisa dijadikan patokan persyaratan
dan kelebihan bermain dengan margin.

 

 

Sm;)e

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:45 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

Sekuritasnya : OD.

Memang bener pak, kalo mau pake margin yg 3 bulanan, harus buka account
margin. Jadi kita punya 2 account dgn satu nama pemilik, satu reguler,
satunya margin.

Dgn margin yg 3 bulan ini, leverage kita bisa naek lumayan banyak .. J

Di tiap2 sekuritas bisa beda. Yg jelas, kalo OD minta minim (ini dulu ya)
ada 500 jt di account margin, baru mereka  mau ngasih dana 'utangan'.

Besar dana utangan ini juga max 50% dari dana kita di margin.

Dana di reguler tetap juga harus dimaintain. Kalo2 market lagi drop, kita
msih bisa pindahin dana reguler ke margin, tanpa harus top up.

Bunga 20%/ thn kurang lebih sama dgn bunga pinjeman utk usaha dari bank.
Bedanya: bunga dibank jalan terus, tdk peduli kita mau pake dananya ato
tidak.

Sementar dimargin, bunga dihitung dari pemakaian dana perhari. Itung2 buka
usaha virtual deh . J

 

Tulisan ini bukan utk mengajak/menghimbau utk pake margin lh.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of tV kun0
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 11:29 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

Ngomong2nin soal margin, sys mp skrg masih blom tau cara pake margin.

Tp dari sekuritas sy, siih, katanya klo mau pake margin, harus buka account
khusus. Iya gak siih?

Klo margin bisa pake yg bulanan, itu bagus juga kaenya,. tenggat waktu kita
jadi lebih tinggi.

Gak usah kuatir saham yg kita beli minggu depan bisa naek apa gak..

 

1.67%/bulan  = 20%/annum, sepertinya boleh lah yah.

Pak Iwan Budi, bisa di share nama sekuritas nya pak?

 

sm;)e

tV.kun0

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:03 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

26% per annum, Pak Iwan.

wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!

nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?

Terima kasih dan salam,
Rully

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
> 
> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, 
bisa
> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari.
> 
> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau 
bilang
> "I told you"
> 
> 
> 
> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
> 
> 
> 
> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin 
itu
> belanja sampe 130.
> 
> 
> 
> Bunganya 26%.
> 
> 
> 
> Anything better than this?
> 
> 
> 
> Please advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 2008/7/23 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >:
> 
> 
> 
> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "Rully" 

> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> > 
> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Rully
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
> margin brp
> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
> aja
> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
> kecuali
> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
> sih di
> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
> lain
> >
>

 

<><>

[obrolan-bandar] MIRA rumor 1200

[M Herman]

Info rumor yang beredar MIRA akan di tarik ke 1200 menjelang RUPSLB medco di 
augustus yang akan memutuskan persetujuan penjualan apex.


  

[obrolan-bandar] SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..

[artomoro9]

Tiap hari, tiap menit harga saham TURUN dan NAIK sedangkan informasi
tentang company RELATIF TIDAK BERUBAH.

Jadi RELEVANSI ANALISA FUNDAMENTAL seharusnya untuk JANGKA
PANJANG kecuali ada BERITA BARU. Tapi harus juga DIINGAT bahwa
BERITA LAMA bisa dijadikan BERITA BARU denga ditulis ulang dikoran
atau di milis.

 KENAPA BISA ?. Coba anda perhatikan IKLAN di TV yang
diulang ulang BERUNTUN untuk mempengaruhi para DUMBER CONSUMEN.

Begitu juga otak para TRADER/INVESTOR bisa di PROGRAM ULANG
Sedangkan untuk pergerakan harga saham harian orang berusaha
mencari JALAN LAIN, setiap orang punya Caranya masing masing
seperti INTERMARKET ANALYSIS, TA dll

SI BOZZ belum bangun tidur..

ntar agak siangan mau belanja..

salam 


artomoro9

[obrolan-bandar] UNSP mau ribon?

[Yoseph]

CMIIW.

Thx
<>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[Iwan.Budi]

Sekuritasnya : OD.

Memang bener pak, kalo mau pake margin yg 3 bulanan, harus buka account
margin. Jadi kita punya 2 account dgn satu nama pemilik, satu reguler,
satunya margin.

Dgn margin yg 3 bulan ini, leverage kita bisa naek lumayan banyak .. :-)

Di tiap2 sekuritas bisa beda. Yg jelas, kalo OD minta minim (ini dulu
ya) ada 500 jt di account margin, baru mereka  mau ngasih dana
'utangan'.

Besar dana utangan ini juga max 50% dari dana kita di margin.

Dana di reguler tetap juga harus dimaintain. Kalo2 market lagi drop,
kita msih bisa pindahin dana reguler ke margin, tanpa harus top up.

Bunga 20%/ thn kurang lebih sama dgn bunga pinjeman utk usaha dari bank.
Bedanya: bunga dibank jalan terus, tdk peduli kita mau pake dananya ato
tidak.

Sementar dimargin, bunga dihitung dari pemakaian dana perhari. Itung2
buka usaha virtual deh ... :-)

 

Tulisan ini bukan utk mengajak/menghimbau utk pake margin lh...

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tV kun0
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 11:29 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

Ngomong2nin soal margin, sys mp skrg masih blom tau cara pake margin.

Tp dari sekuritas sy, siih, katanya klo mau pake margin, harus buka
account khusus. Iya gak siih?

Klo margin bisa pake yg bulanan, itu bagus juga kaenya,... tenggat waktu
kita jadi lebih tinggi...

Gak usah kuatir saham yg kita beli minggu depan bisa naek apa gak..

 

1.67%/bulan  = 20%/annum, sepertinya boleh lah yah...

Pak Iwan Budi, bisa di share nama sekuritas nya pak?

 

sm;)e

tV.kun0

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:03 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

26% per annum, Pak Iwan.

wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!

nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?

Terima kasih dan salam,
Rully

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
> 
> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, 
bisa
> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari.
> 
> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau 
bilang
> "I told you"
> 
> 
> 
> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
> 
> 
> 
> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin 
itu
> belanja sampe 130.
> 
> 
> 
> Bunganya 26%.
> 
> 
> 
> Anything better than this?
> 
> 
> 
> Please advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 2008/7/23 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >:
> 
> 
> 
> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "Rully" 

> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> > 
> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Rully
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
> margin brp
> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
> aja
> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
> kecuali
> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
> sih di
> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
> lain
> >
>

 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[Sudi Mampir]

yg paling murah untuk rate marjin sejauh yg sy tahu di OD dan LG, sama2 rate 
0.05%/hari atau 18% p.a.. saran saja pak klo msh newbie jgn dl pake 
marjin..sebisa mungkin bandarologi, TA, FA dan sikap disiplin sudah dimiliki 
bapak..
salam
sudi mampir



- Original Message 
From: tV kun0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:29:08 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin


Ngomong2nin soal margin, sys mp skrg masih blom tau cara pake margin.
Tp dari sekuritas sy, siih, katanya klo mau pake margin, harus buka account 
khusus. Iya gak siih?
Klo margin bisa pake yg bulanan, itu bagus juga kaenya,… tenggat waktu kita 
jadi lebih tinggi…
Gak usah kuatir saham yg kita beli minggu depan bisa naek apa gak..
 
1.67%/bulan  = 20%/annum, sepertinya boleh lah yah…
Pak Iwan Budi, bisa di share nama sekuritas nya pak?
 
sm;)e
tV.kun0
 
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ps.com] On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:03 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin
 
26% per annum, Pak Iwan.

wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!

nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?

Terima kasih dan salam,
Rully

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
>
> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
> 
> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, 
bisa
> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari..
> 
> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau 
bilang
> "I told you"
> 
> 
> 
> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
> 
> 
> 
> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin 
itu
> belanja sampe 130.
> 
> 
> 
> Bunganya 26%.
> 
> 
> 
> Anything better than this?
> 
> 
> 
> Please advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 2008/7/23 jos_martino   >:
> 
> 
> 
> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>  , "Rully" 

> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> > 
> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Rully
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
> margin brp
> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
> aja
> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
> kecuali
> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
> sih di
> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
> lain
> >
> 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[Sudi Mampir]

yg paling murah untuk rate marjin sejauh yg sy tahu di OD dan LG, sama2 rate 
0.05%/hari atau 18% p.a.. saran saja pak klo msh newbie jgn dl pake 
marjin..sebisa mungkin bandarologi, TA, FA dan sikap disiplin sudah dimiliki 
bapak..
salam
sudi mampir



- Original Message 
From: tV kun0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:29:08 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin


Ngomong2nin soal margin, sys mp skrg masih blom tau cara pake margin.
Tp dari sekuritas sy, siih, katanya klo mau pake margin, harus buka account 
khusus. Iya gak siih?
Klo margin bisa pake yg bulanan, itu bagus juga kaenya,… tenggat waktu kita 
jadi lebih tinggi…
Gak usah kuatir saham yg kita beli minggu depan bisa naek apa gak..
 
1.67%/bulan  = 20%/annum, sepertinya boleh lah yah…
Pak Iwan Budi, bisa di share nama sekuritas nya pak?
 
sm;)e
tV.kun0
 
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ps.com] On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:03 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin
 
26% per annum, Pak Iwan.

wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!

nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?

Terima kasih dan salam,
Rully

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .> wrote:
>
> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
> 
> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, 
bisa
> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari..
> 
> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau 
bilang
> "I told you"
> 
> 
> 
> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
> 
> 
> 
> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin 
itu
> belanja sampe 130.
> 
> 
> 
> Bunganya 26%.
> 
> 
> 
> Anything better than this?
> 
> 
> 
> Please advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 2008/7/23 jos_martino   >:
> 
> 
> 
> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>  , "Rully" 

> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> > 
> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Rully
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
> margin brp
> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
> aja
> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
> kecuali
> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
> sih di
> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
> lain
> >
> 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

[sultan qatar]

Mr Yap Tjai Soen (CFO-BBNI) pernah sampaikan ke ane.

Ane percaya dia.

Maka ane dan shohib2 tertarik masuk.

ternyata banyak yang minat juga. dari china.

karenanya ane makin dalam..


2008/7/23, Hendrik Limbono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Kenaikan hari ini cukup signifikan dengan volume yangcukup Gede.
> ada peluang kenaikan yang cuku[ besar di BBNI.
> tetap ketat CL mengingat markt ngga jelas arahnya.
>
> chart :
> http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/07/bbni-trading-buy-cl-1210-tp-1350.html
>
> With Love
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh....

[Thomas Frederick]

komponennya apa aja bang jos?



Thank You! 
 
ThomaS FredericK

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 11:01 PM






Eiit ...jangan takyu..uuut masih ada raksasa baru bangun tidur, 
Consumer and Infrastructure. ...bakal menopang index kita.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "thomaszone_ 2000" 
 wrote:
>
> Feeling ngga enak nichh banking properti kok rata2 udah 
> overbought semua ya?? kalo dilihat dari %K12 %D3... rata2 banking 
dah 
> mulai layak profit taking..
> 
> sementara oil masih downturn it means komoditi stock juga masih 
akan 
> jatuh...
> 
> mau switching juga masih takut kena PT di sektor non komoditi..
> 
> serba salah..
> 
> apalagi kata bos2 broker tempat saya main.. indeks possible ke 
1900.
> karena selama ini yang menahan penurunan komoditi Financial dan 
> properti..
> 
> kalo semua pada turun banget gimana ya jadinya indeks??
> 
> Trus barusan ngelihat juga.. Dow mulai ada tanda2 penurunan... 
karena 
> kalo mau nembus 11800 di fibo 100% kayaknya agak susah dalam waktu 
> deket..
> 
> 
> dan lucunya Dow ini.. ternyata volume transaksi tiap harinya mulai 
> dari tangal 23 Juni ini sampe sekarang volume transaksi kecil 
banget 
> under average..
> 
> 
> yahh feeling gw bener ga enak.. akhirnya memutuskan cashout 
> beberapa saham.. untungnya masih cuan.. meski tipis sediihhh...
> 
> Ada gambaran view kedepan ngga para senior?? retailer lagi 
ketakutan 
> nih soalnya
>

 














  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time will tell

[kspm_rheza]

nikel jebol $2/MT tuh

LME NICKEL FUTURE (USD/MT)  19858.000   -545.000-2.67   07/23

sya mw d 3300-3100 dah.. klo bsa jebol lagi..lho2 jgn lah ya..

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[Iwan.Budi]

OD .

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 11:03 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

26% per annum, Pak Iwan.

wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!

nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?

Terima kasih dan salam,
Rully

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
> 
> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, 
bisa
> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari.
> 
> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau 
bilang
> "I told you"
> 
> 
> 
> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
> 
> 
> 
> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin 
itu
> belanja sampe 130.
> 
> 
> 
> Bunganya 26%.
> 
> 
> 
> Anything better than this?
> 
> 
> 
> Please advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 2008/7/23 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >:
> 
> 
> 
> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "Rully" 

> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> > 
> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Rully
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
> margin brp
> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
> aja
> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
> kecuali
> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
> sih di
> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
> lain
> >
>

 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

[farhan zailani]

Wah Pak CC, makanannya pasti istimewa juga ya?



- Original Message 
From: Cleopatras Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:28:09 AM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik


wah. Pak AW.

Bu Vera mah ga punya fs. tapi maniz pisan. saya sering nanya nanya TA sama 
Beliau karena Beliau lumayan jago TA biarpun ga pernah posting TA di OB. 

duh. saya jadi ingat kesalahan saya waktu itu ;-( tanpa sengaja mengambil 
makanan Beliau karena saya vegetarien. eh ternyata Beliau jg tidak terlalu 
carnivora.

mea culpa, sweetie*
mea culpa
mea maxima culpa

*sweetie : Vera

--- Andi Wahyudi  schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:

Von: Andi Wahyudi 
Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik
An: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 12:11


Ah saya ndak yakin Pak kl cewek betulan..soalnya belum liat FS-nya
Sorry Pak DE; saya duluin he he

2008/7/23 Cleopatras Cat :
> ya beginilah Bu, nasib kuli. ga bisa beli BUMI, PTBA dan kawan kawan nya.
> jadi nyopet nyopet yg lebih murah aja. lumayan kalo dapur bisa tetep ngebul,
> & perut terasa hangat.
>
> buat temans OB yg lain. sekedar Info saja. Bu Vera ini asli cewe. bukan jadi
> jadian hehe saya telah mendapat kehormatan untuk berkenalan dengan beliau
> beberapa waktu lalu. Beliau sangat terpelajar, cantik & sexy. tapi karena
> kesibukan pekerjaan, Ibu Vera sampai saat ini belum mempunyai waktu untuk
> teman yang speziell.
>
> sayangnya, Beliau & saya beda kelas. ya Beliau di PTBA, saya di kasta CNKO.
> dan lg saya pernah melakukan kesalahan besar, yaitu mengambil makanan Beliau
> tanpa sengaja ;-(
>
> post scriptum: Bu, masih di kantor?
>
> --- Vera  schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:
>
> Von: Vera 
> Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik
> An: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 9:52
>
> Wah Pak CC jgn sampe batal married gara2 BBNI neh :D
>
> Jgn lupa tar sama sovenir sahamnya ya...
>
> Cheers,
> Vera
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Feeling ngga enak nichh....

[jos_martino]

Eiit ...jangan takyu..uuut masih ada raksasa baru bangun tidur, 
Consumer and Infrastructurebakal menopang index kita.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "thomaszone_2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Feeling ngga enak nichh banking properti kok rata2 udah 
> overbought semua ya?? kalo dilihat dari %K12 %D3... rata2 banking 
dah 
> mulai layak profit taking..
> 
> sementara oil masih downturn it means komoditi stock juga masih 
akan 
> jatuh...
> 
> mau switching juga masih takut kena PT di sektor non komoditi..
> 
> serba salah..
> 
> apalagi kata bos2 broker tempat saya main.. indeks possible ke 
1900.
> karena selama ini yang menahan penurunan komoditi Financial dan 
> properti..
> 
> kalo semua pada turun banget gimana ya jadinya indeks??
> 
> Trus barusan ngelihat juga.. Dow mulai ada tanda2 penurunan... 
karena 
> kalo mau nembus 11800 di fibo 100% kayaknya agak susah dalam waktu 
> deket..
> 
> 
> dan lucunya Dow ini.. ternyata volume transaksi tiap harinya mulai 
> dari tangal 23 Juni ini sampe sekarang volume transaksi kecil 
banget 
> under average..
> 
> 
> yahh feeling gw bener ga enak.. akhirnya memutuskan cashout 
> beberapa saham.. untungnya masih cuan.. meski tipis sediihhh...
> 
> Ada gambaran view kedepan ngga para senior?? retailer lagi 
ketakutan 
> nih soalnya
>

[obrolan-bandar] banking Update

[hendrik_lwww]

BUY :
BBNI, BBCA, BDMN
chart : dolgado.blogspot.com

[obrolan-bandar] BW supirnya SMCB

[datasahamku]

broker BW terus ngumpulin SMCByg mau ngikut bs dpt cuan  terminal
ada di 1300 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

[Andi Wahyudi]

Hi..hi..Pak CC kena marah karena coba jadi carnivora ya Pak...Retail minta 
remah2 masak ga dikasih ? 

Pak CC jadi married kan soalnya BBNI sudah diangkat

Terus kenalannya sama Bu Vera gimana donk Pak?

2008/7/24 Cleopatras Cat :



















wah. Pak AW.

Bu Vera mah ga punya fs. tapi maniz pisan. saya sering nanya nanya TA sama 
Beliau karena Beliau lumayan jago TA biarpun ga pernah posting TA di OB. 

duh. saya jadi ingat kesalahan saya waktu itu ;-( tanpa sengaja mengambil 
makanan Beliau karena saya vegetarien. eh ternyata Beliau jg tidak terlalu 
carnivora.


mea culpa, sweetie*
mea culpa
mea maxima culpa

*sweetie : Vera

--- Andi Wahyudi  schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:

Von: Andi Wahyudi 
Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

An: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 12:11









Ah saya ndak yakin Pak kl cewek betulan..soalnya belum liat FS-nyaSorry Pak DE; 
saya duluin he he


2008/7/23 Cleopatras Cat :

> ya beginilah Bu, nasib kuli. ga bisa beli BUMI, PTBA dan kawan kawan nya.

> jadi nyopet nyopet yg lebih murah aja. lumayan kalo dapur bisa tetep ngebul,

> & perut terasa hangat.

>

> buat temans OB yg lain. sekedar Info saja. Bu Vera ini asli cewe. bukan jadi

> jadian hehe saya telah mendapat kehormatan untuk berkenalan dengan beliau

> beberapa waktu lalu. Beliau sangat terpelajar, cantik & sexy. tapi karena

> kesibukan pekerjaan, Ibu Vera sampai saat ini belum mempunyai waktu untuk

> teman yang speziell.

>

> sayangnya, Beliau & saya beda kelas. ya Beliau di PTBA, saya di kasta CNKO.

> dan lg saya pernah melakukan kesalahan besar, yaitu mengambil makanan Beliau

> tanpa sengaja ;-(

>

> post scriptum: Bu, masih di kantor?

>

> --- Vera  schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:

>

> Von: Vera 

> Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

> An: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 9:52

>

> Wah Pak CC jgn sampe batal married gara2 BBNI neh :D

>

> Jgn lupa tar sama sovenir sahamnya ya...

>

> Cheers,

> Vera


  


 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling ngga enak nichh....

[tV kun0]

Hari ini memberanikan diri untuk masuk AALI antri harga bawah..eh dapat.

Skrg cuma bisa doa,.. mudah2an hari ini dan besok2 OD gak kesurupan lagi.

Dan mudah2an hari ini BW, BK dll gak kesurupan seperti OD kemaren.

Hehehe..

 

Yg sering ngongomg ini sapa niih? WB yah?? "Enter when everybody else are
afraid"

 

 

sm;)e

tV.kun0

 

 

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of thomaszone_2000
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:05 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Feeling ngga enak nichh

 

Feeling ngga enak nichh banking properti kok rata2 udah 
overbought semua ya?? kalo dilihat dari %K12 %D3... rata2 banking dah 
mulai layak profit taking..

sementara oil masih downturn it means komoditi stock juga masih akan 
jatuh...

mau switching juga masih takut kena PT di sektor non komoditi..

serba salah..

apalagi kata bos2 broker tempat saya main.. indeks possible ke 1900.
karena selama ini yang menahan penurunan komoditi Financial dan 
properti..

kalo semua pada turun banget gimana ya jadinya indeks??

Trus barusan ngelihat juga.. Dow mulai ada tanda2 penurunan... karena 
kalo mau nembus 11800 di fibo 100% kayaknya agak susah dalam waktu 
deket..

dan lucunya Dow ini.. ternyata volume transaksi tiap harinya mulai 
dari tangal 23 Juni ini sampe sekarang volume transaksi kecil banget 
under average..

yahh feeling gw bener ga enak.. akhirnya memutuskan cashout 
beberapa saham.. untungnya masih cuan.. meski tipis sediihhh...

Ada gambaran view kedepan ngga para senior?? retailer lagi ketakutan 
nih soalnya

 

<><>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang "I told you"

[datasahamku]

belajar dari sejarah per-BUMIan...klo harga 5500-6000 patut dihajar
kanan hehehe...

jangan percaya sama provocator klo BUMI mau ke 4.000

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sptnya bukan 1 fund, ada beberapa. Dan sptnya sedang dalam proses selama
> bbrp bulan ini. Mungkin mau di ambil sama BNBR (lagi). Saya juga
perhatiin
> chart BUMI sptnya pola distribusi banyak terjadi. Tdk ada/sedikit
pattern
> akumulasi. Secara minyak udah tinggi banget kemarin, sy kira sih wajar
> banyak yang terpancing untuk profit taking.
> 
> Bbrp kali BUMI mengalami outflow yang luar biasa. Volatile sekali.
Buat yang
> seneng swing sih mantab, cuman yang mau ngelong rada risky juga, palagi
> minyak turun terus, pasti impact psikologisnya ada ke batu bara,
walaupun
> secara bisnis benernya beda.
> 
> Btw, BUMI kena LT support. Sempat rebound, tapi sptnya kondisi
market agak
> kurang mestakung.
> 
> Regards,
> DE
> 
> 
> Pada 23 Juli 2008 23:56, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> 
> >  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker"

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > *
> > > btw, rumor katanya ada fund 20 triliun mau keluar dari BUMI.
Fund asing,
> > dan
> > > mrk kesulitan mau keluar. Nyangkut sih ngga, tapi yang jelas
mereka mau
> > > keluar. Gga ada info alasannya knp mau keluar. Ya sbg wacana
aja, krn
> > saya
> > > juga gak bisa jamin akurasi info ini. Kl ada yang punya info lebih
> > detail,
> > > boleh di share.*
> > >
> >
> >
> > Walah, rumor dari mana tuh?
> > Masa Bigfunds segede gitu, bisa masuk tapi  dari awal gak mikirin cara
> > 'keluar'?
> > hehehe.. kalah sama retail dong strategy *position sizing*-nya.
> > Udah gitu, *Timing *keluar-nya gak pas banget.
> > Kalau bener tuh rumor, kacau bener strategy fund manager-nya.
> >
> > Tapi, lain cerita kalau keluar-nya gak lewat regular market.
> > Bisa aja lewat negosiasi, placement, blocksale, dll.
> > Tapi yg pasti, mau keluar lewat manapun, dengan size segede itu,
they need
> > *Pros* to do that.
> >
> > Salam,
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

[jko]

pak Cat dananya gede juga yah hihih gak abis2 lho..
1500 yah next..

2008/7/24 Cleopatras Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>   wah. Pak AW.
>
> Bu Vera mah ga punya fs. tapi maniz pisan. saya sering nanya nanya TA sama
> Beliau karena Beliau lumayan jago TA biarpun ga pernah posting TA di OB.
>
> duh. saya jadi ingat kesalahan saya waktu itu ;-( tanpa sengaja mengambil
> makanan Beliau karena saya vegetarien. eh ternyata Beliau jg tidak terlalu
> carnivora.
>
> mea culpa, sweetie*
> mea culpa
> mea maxima culpa
>
> *sweetie : Vera
>
> --- Andi Wahyudi *<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* schrieb am *Mi, 23.7.2008:
> *
>
> *Von: Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik
> An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 12:11
>
> * * * * *
>
> Ah saya ndak yakin Pak kl cewek betulan..soalnya belum liat FS-nya
>
> Sorry Pak DE; saya duluin he he
>
>
> 2008/7/23 Cleopatras Cat  yahoo.de
> >:
>
> > ya beginilah Bu, nasib kuli. ga bisa beli BUMI, PTBA dan kawan kawan nya.
> > jadi nyopet nyopet yg lebih murah aja. lumayan kalo dapur bisa tetep
> ngebul,
> > & perut terasa hangat.
> >
> > buat temans OB yg lain. sekedar Info saja. Bu Vera ini asli cewe. bukan
> jadi
> > jadian hehe saya telah mendapat kehormatan untuk berkenalan dengan beliau
> > beberapa waktu lalu. Beliau sangat terpelajar, cantik & sexy. tapi karena
> > kesibukan pekerjaan, Ibu Vera sampai saat ini belum mempunyai waktu untuk
> > teman yang speziell.
> >
> > sayangnya, Beliau & saya beda kelas. ya Beliau di PTBA, saya di kasta
> CNKO.
> > dan lg saya pernah melakukan kesalahan besar, yaitu mengambil makanan
> Beliau
> > tanpa sengaja ;-(
> >
> > post scriptum: Bu, masih di kantor?
> >
> > --- Vera > schrieb
> am Mi, 23.7.2008:
> >
> > Von: Vera >
> > Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik
> > An: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> > Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 9:52
> >
> > Wah Pak CC jgn sampe batal married gara2 BBNI neh :D
> >
> > Jgn lupa tar sama sovenir sahamnya ya...
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Vera
>
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nevertheless, an expert with a stone can not beat 100 novices with 100
shurikens...

[obrolan-bandar] Feeling ngga enak nichh....

[thomaszone_2000]

Feeling ngga enak nichh banking properti kok rata2 udah 
overbought semua ya?? kalo dilihat dari %K12 %D3... rata2 banking dah 
mulai layak profit taking..

sementara oil masih downturn it means komoditi stock juga masih akan 
jatuh...

mau switching juga masih takut kena PT di sektor non komoditi..

serba salah..

apalagi kata bos2 broker tempat saya main.. indeks possible ke 1900.
karena selama ini yang menahan penurunan komoditi Financial dan 
properti..

kalo semua pada turun banget gimana ya jadinya indeks??

Trus barusan ngelihat juga.. Dow mulai ada tanda2 penurunan... karena 
kalo mau nembus 11800 di fibo 100% kayaknya agak susah dalam waktu 
deket..


dan lucunya Dow ini.. ternyata volume transaksi tiap harinya mulai 
dari tangal 23 Juni ini sampe sekarang volume transaksi kecil banget 
under average..


yahh feeling gw bener ga enak.. akhirnya memutuskan cashout 
beberapa saham.. untungnya masih cuan.. meski tipis sediihhh...

Ada gambaran view kedepan ngga para senior?? retailer lagi ketakutan 
nih soalnya

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang "I told you"

[Hendra Santosa]

Pinjem istilahnya Pak DE, Pak DE ini sedang menyampaikan sesuatu:
1. "bandar vs Dapen vs FM reksadana"
2. "Ritel mah nyopet doank, mana dilirik ama bozz. Ge'er bgt seh.."
3. "Yang penting adalah gimana kita memprediksi jalannya pertandingan."
Coba deh diperhatiin lagi hehehe :)
Sebagai para nubie, di pinggir lapangan aja dulu, sedang gebuk2an di
tengah lapangan, nanti tewas loh kalau ngikut sekarang, mendingan
tungguin sampai mereka sudah habis tenaganya. Begitu ya Pak DE?
Kecuali ... bisa memprediksi jalannya pertandingan.

*nubie bantu menterjemahkan*


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> wah sedih jg kalau bener 20T gemana keluarnya jaman bgini, masuknya gak
> ngajak2 sih, yah keluar dipikir2 aja sendiri..
> btw sir DE atau mbah atao pak Boyz ada rekomend buku ttg market cycle yg
> cocok buat situasi kita disini?
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> An expert with a stone can still beat a novice with a shuriken,
> nevertheless, an expert with a stone can not beat 100 novices with 100
> shurikens...
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI 1350

[ALX™]

Gue kate juge ape...
:)

-- 
Salam
ALX™


2008/7/24 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> udah kubilang kan. I TOLD YOU..
> bener tuh 1350..
> hanya pak CC yang percaya tuh.. bener kan.he3...
>
> BCANDA Friends...
> sombong banget kata2 di atas,he3...
> orang yang bilang ini aja ngerasa bersalah saat ngomong ini,he3...
>
>

[obrolan-bandar] AWAL . . .

[Bumi T]

Bursa regional mulai banyak hijaunya di minggu ini. Apa ini petanda awal
   
  pemulihan ekonomi global dgn penurunan harga minyak ?
   
  Bagaimana dgn nasib investor di saham CPO dan batubara, apa ini
   
  akan jadi awal kegelisahan dgn penurunan harga minyak ? 

   
-
  Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru  
 Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. 
br>Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang "I told you"

[jko]

wah sedih jg kalau bener 20T gemana keluarnya jaman bgini, masuknya gak
ngajak2 sih, yah keluar dipikir2 aja sendiri..
btw sir DE atau mbah atao pak Boyz ada rekomend buku ttg market cycle yg
cocok buat situasi kita disini?



-- 
An expert with a stone can still beat a novice with a shuriken,
nevertheless, an expert with a stone can not beat 100 novices with 100
shurikens...

[obrolan-bandar] BBNI 1350

[hendrik_lwww]

udah kubilang kan. I TOLD YOU..
bener tuh 1350..
hanya pak CC yang percaya tuh.. bener kan.he3...

BCANDA Friends...
sombong banget kata2 di atas,he3...
orang yang bilang ini aja ngerasa bersalah saat ngomong ini,he3...

[obrolan-bandar] UNTR udah bisa dibeli ? atau bottomnya masih belum kelihatan ?

[Irawan Sudarman]

mohon saran2 dari senior2 pengamat UNTR

[obrolan-bandar] Commodity Update: 24 Juli 2008

[jos_martino]

Crude Oil turun, $124/b SELL BUMI, PTBA, ITMG

SoyBean oil turun, $59.7/lb SELL AALI, SGRO, TBLA,UNSP

Wheat turun, $782/bu BUY INDF, MYOR

Nickel turun, $19858/mt BUY ANTM @ 1500-2000 (Investor Only)

Disc ON
rgs,
JM




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jos_martino" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Crude Oil turun, $127/b SELL BUMI, ENRG, MEDC
> 
> SoyBean oil turun, $60.5/lb SELL AALI, SGRO, TBLA,UNSP
> 
> Wheat turun, $787/bu BUY INDF, MYOR
> 
> 
> Disc on
> rgs,
> JM
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time will tell

[Pemain Mini]

udahlah...lupakan KEDUA SAHAM BUTUT itu
udah dibilang TIDAK AKAN NAEK...masih aja NGETEKhuahauhauahua.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bettina Tan 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? 
time will tell


  Betul.. kesempatan untuk beli dengan harga lebih murah.. :-) tapi kenapa LME 
kenapa stagnan ya pak..?



  On 7/24/08, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a4UeL2qoDeVc
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aXn_zqsR68Xg
Ini berita yg lbh baru, nikel jatuh harganya pak. 



On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  Nickel Gains in London as Stockpiles Decline to Eight-Month Low 

  By Chanyaporn Chanjaroen

  July 21 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel rebounded from a two-year low in London as 
stockpiles of the metal used in stainless steel declined to the smallest in 
eight months, indicating supply is slowing. 

  Inventories tracked by the London Metal Exchange dropped 6 percent this 
month to 43,728 metric tons, the lowest since Nov. 23. BHP Billiton Ltd. this 
month shut its Kalgoorlie refinery in Western Australia through June 2009, 
cutting sales of the metal by 25,000 tons, or about 57 percent of existing LME 
stockpiles. 

  ``You probably started to see the impact from supply disruption in 
Western Australia,'' Max Layton, an analyst at Macquarie Ltd. in London, said 
today by phone. ``It may be short- lived and overall we see a small surplus 
this year.'' 

  Nickel for delivery in three months increased $150, or 0.7 percent, to 
$20,550 a ton as of 4:55 p.m. London time. The contract closed July 18 at 
$20,400 a ton, the lowest since June 28, 2006. 

  The metal is headed for a second consecutive annual drop, after last 
year's 21 percent decline as stainless-steel mills resorted to products 
containing less nickel. Prices may have to fall to about $15,000 a ton to lure 
back consumers, Charles Cooper, an analyst at Evolution Securities Ltd., said 
today. 

  Boliden AB, the second-largest producer of zinc in Europe, said 
production at the Tara zinc and lead mine in Ireland will decline ``slightly'' 
in the next six to nine months, extending a drop from the first half. 

  The mine produced an equivalent of 104,019 tons of zinc metal during 
January to June, down 7 percent from a year ago, the Stockholm-based company 
said today in an earnings statement. Lead output fell 11 percent to 13,765 
tons. 

  Mine Closures 

  Zinc prices have slumped 22 percent this year and lead 20 percent, making 
mines unprofitable. Tech Cominco Ltd., owner of the world's largest zinc mine, 
said July 15 it would close its Lennard Shelf Pillara mine in Western Australia 
next month, earlier than planned. 

  Lead jumped $65, or 3.3 percent, to $2,035 a ton and zinc added $20, or 
1.1 percent, to $1,840. 

  Stockpiles of copper monitored by the exchange have increased 5 percent 
this month to 128,725 tons, the highest since March 12. As inventories have 
been held by ``only a few market participants,'' availability is limited, 
Norddeutsche Affinerie AG, Europe's largest copper refiner, said today in an 
e-mailed newsletter. 

  Copper for immediate delivery traded at a premium of $241 a ton above the 
benchmark price on July 17, the highest since August 2005 and indicating a 
shortage of nearby futures contracts. The spread was $234 a ton today. 
Borrowing fees for futures for tomorrow delivery were $35 a ton a day. 

  Lost Output 

  Aluminum Corp. of China Ltd., the nation's biggest producer of the 
lightweight metal, said it may lose 30,000 tons of output after it trimmed some 
capacity at two ventures in Shanxi province because of a power shortage. 

  Shanxi Huaze Aluminum & Power Co. suspended 25 percent of its 280,000-ton 
annual capacity as of July 18, and Shanxi Huasheng Aluminum Co. stopped 22 
percent of its 220,000-ton capacity, Chalco, as the company is known, said in a 
statement late that day. 

  Aluminum stockpiles on the LME added 4,975 tons, or 0.4 percent, to 1.12 
million tons, the highest since May 12, 2004. The contract rose $7 to $3,040 a 
ton. 

  Tin increased $75 to $23,500. 

  To contact the reporter on this story: Chanyaporn Chanjaroen in London at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Last Updated: July 21, 2008 12:01 EDT 

   


  - Original Message 
  From: Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:47:30 PM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? 
time will tell







   







   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time will tell

[Bettina Tan]

Betul.. kesempatan untuk beli dengan harga lebih murah.. :-) tapi kenapa LME
kenapa stagnan ya pak..?

On 7/24/08, TH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a4UeL2qoDeVc
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aXn_zqsR68Xg
> Ini berita yg lbh baru, nikel jatuh harganya pak.
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Nickel Gains in London as Stockpiles Decline to Eight-Month Low
>>
>> By Chanyaporn Chanjaroen
>>
>> July 21 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel rebounded from a two-year low in London as
>> stockpiles of the metal used in stainless steel declined to the smallest in
>> eight months, indicating supply is slowing.
>>
>> Inventories tracked by the London Metal Exchange dropped 6 percent this
>> month to 43,728 metric tons, the lowest since Nov. 23. BHP Billiton Ltd.
>> this month shut its Kalgoorlie refinery in Western Australia through June
>> 2009, cutting sales of the metal by 25,000 tons, or about 57 percent of
>> existing LME stockpiles.
>>
>> ``You probably started to see the impact from supply disruption in Western
>> Australia,'' Max 
>> Layton,
>> an analyst at Macquarie Ltd. in London, said today by phone. ``It may be
>> short- lived and overall we see a small surplus this year.''
>>
>> Nickel for delivery in three months increased $150, or 0.7 percent, to
>> $20,550 a ton as of 4:55 p.m. London time. The contract closed July 18 at
>> $20,400 a ton, the lowest since June 28, 2006.
>>
>> The metal is headed for a second consecutive annual drop, after last
>> year's 21 percent decline as stainless-steel mills resorted to products
>> containing less nickel. Prices may have to fall to about $15,000 a ton to
>> lure back consumers, Charles 
>> Cooper,
>> an analyst at Evolution Securities Ltd., said today.
>>
>> Boliden AB, the second-largest producer of zinc in Europe, said production
>> at the Tara zinc and lead mine in Ireland will decline ``slightly'' in the
>> next six to nine months, extending a drop from the first half.
>>
>> The mine produced an equivalent of 104,019 tons of zinc metal during
>> January to June, down 7 percent from a year ago, the Stockholm-based company
>> said today in an earnings statement. Lead output fell 11 percent to 13,765
>> tons.
>>
>> Mine Closures
>>
>> Zinc prices have slumped 22 percent this year and lead 20 percent, making
>> mines unprofitable. Tech Cominco Ltd., owner of the world's largest zinc
>> mine, said July 15 it would close its Lennard Shelf Pillara mine in Western
>> Australia next month, earlier than planned.
>>
>> Lead jumped $65, or 3.3 percent, to $2,035 a ton and zinc added $20, or
>> 1.1 percent, to $1,840.
>>
>> Stockpiles of copper monitored by the exchange have increased 5 percent
>> this month to 128,725 tons, the highest since March 12. As inventories have
>> been held by ``only a few market participants,'' availability is limited,
>> Norddeutsche Affinerie AG, Europe's largest copper refiner, said today in an
>> e-mailed newsletter.
>>
>> Copper for immediate delivery traded at a premium of $241 a ton above the
>> benchmark price on July 17, the highest since August 2005 and indicating a
>> shortage of nearby futures contracts. The spread was $234 a ton today.
>> Borrowing fees for futures for tomorrow delivery were $35 a ton a day.
>>
>> Lost Output
>>
>> Aluminum Corp. of China Ltd., the nation's biggest producer of the
>> lightweight metal, said it may lose 30,000 tons of output after it trimmed
>> some capacity at two ventures in Shanxi province because of a power
>> shortage.
>>
>> Shanxi Huaze Aluminum & Power Co. suspended 25 percent of its 280,000-ton
>> annual capacity as of July 18, and Shanxi Huasheng Aluminum Co. stopped 22
>> percent of its 220,000-ton capacity, Chalco, as the company is known, said
>> in a statement late that day.
>>
>> Aluminum stockpiles on the LME added 4,975 tons, or 0.4 percent, to 1.12
>> million tons, the highest since May 12, 2004. The contract rose $7 to $3,040
>> a ton.
>>
>> Tin increased $75 to $23,500.
>>
>> To contact the reporter on this story: Chanyaporn 
>> Chanjaroenin
>>  London at
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> *Last Updated: July 21, 2008 12:01 EDT*
>>
>>
>> - Original Message 
>> From: Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:47:30 PM
>> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it

[obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Update (CTRA,CTRP,BDMN)

[Budi Wiyono]

-- Forwarded message --
From: ISX Alerto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:43 AM
Subject: Update (CTRA,CTRP,BDMN)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Sekedar update:

*ALERT* *TICKER* *OPEN PROFIT* *ALERT POINT* *LAST* *ALERT DATETIME* *
URL*  ALERT 
CTRA-drvs-break+VOL
CTRA *19%* 430 510 11/07/2008 09:52:15
http://isxalerto.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/alert-ctra-drvs-breakvol/
ALERT CTRP-drvs-break+VOL

CTRP *9%* 330 360 22/07/2008 14:54:13
http://isxalerto.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/alert-ctrp-drvs-breakvol/
ALERT BDMN-drvs-break+VOL

BDMN *5%* 5200 5450 23/07/2008 10:43:24
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[obrolan-bandar] BUMI Update: On the way to 5000

[jos_martino]

Formasi Shooting Star sudah terbentuk, menandakan bearish continuation.
Ternyata technical rebound kemarin hanya sampai 6400 saja.

Siap TERJUN BEBAS ke 5000

Disc on
rgs,
JM

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang "I told you"

[Dean Earwicker]

Sptnya bukan 1 fund, ada beberapa. Dan sptnya sedang dalam proses selama
bbrp bulan ini. Mungkin mau di ambil sama BNBR (lagi). Saya juga perhatiin
chart BUMI sptnya pola distribusi banyak terjadi. Tdk ada/sedikit pattern
akumulasi. Secara minyak udah tinggi banget kemarin, sy kira sih wajar
banyak yang terpancing untuk profit taking.

Bbrp kali BUMI mengalami outflow yang luar biasa. Volatile sekali. Buat yang
seneng swing sih mantab, cuman yang mau ngelong rada risky juga, palagi
minyak turun terus, pasti impact psikologisnya ada ke batu bara, walaupun
secara bisnis benernya beda.

Btw, BUMI kena LT support. Sempat rebound, tapi sptnya kondisi market agak
kurang mestakung.

Regards,
DE


Pada 23 Juli 2008 23:56, boyz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > *
> > btw, rumor katanya ada fund 20 triliun mau keluar dari BUMI. Fund asing,
> dan
> > mrk kesulitan mau keluar. Nyangkut sih ngga, tapi yang jelas mereka mau
> > keluar. Gga ada info alasannya knp mau keluar. Ya sbg wacana aja, krn
> saya
> > juga gak bisa jamin akurasi info ini. Kl ada yang punya info lebih
> detail,
> > boleh di share.*
> >
>
>
> Walah, rumor dari mana tuh?
> Masa Bigfunds segede gitu, bisa masuk tapi  dari awal gak mikirin cara
> 'keluar'?
> hehehe.. kalah sama retail dong strategy *position sizing*-nya.
> Udah gitu, *Timing *keluar-nya gak pas banget.
> Kalau bener tuh rumor, kacau bener strategy fund manager-nya.
>
> Tapi, lain cerita kalau keluar-nya gak lewat regular market.
> Bisa aja lewat negosiasi, placement, blocksale, dll.
> Tapi yg pasti, mau keluar lewat manapun, dengan size segede itu, they need
> *Pros* to do that.
>
> Salam,
>
>
>
> 
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[tV kun0]

Ngomong2nin soal margin, sys mp skrg masih blom tau cara pake margin.

Tp dari sekuritas sy, siih, katanya klo mau pake margin, harus buka account
khusus. Iya gak siih?

Klo margin bisa pake yg bulanan, itu bagus juga kaenya,. tenggat waktu kita
jadi lebih tinggi.

Gak usah kuatir saham yg kita beli minggu depan bisa naek apa gak..

 

1.67%/bulan  = 20%/annum, sepertinya boleh lah yah.

Pak Iwan Budi, bisa di share nama sekuritas nya pak?

 

sm;)e

tV.kun0

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rully
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:03 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

 

26% per annum, Pak Iwan.

wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!

nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?

Terima kasih dan salam,
Rully

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
> 
> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, 
bisa
> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari.
> 
> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
> 
> 
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 ] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau 
bilang
> "I told you"
> 
> 
> 
> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
> 
> 
> 
> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin 
itu
> belanja sampe 130.
> 
> 
> 
> Bunganya 26%.
> 
> 
> 
> Anything better than this?
> 
> 
> 
> Please advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 2008/7/23 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >:
> 
> 
> 
> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "Rully" 

> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> > 
> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Rully
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
> margin brp
> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
> aja
> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
> kecuali
> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
> sih di
> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
> lain
> >
>

 

<><>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

[Cleopatras Cat]

wah. Pak AW.

Bu Vera mah ga punya fs. tapi maniz pisan. saya sering nanya nanya TA sama 
Beliau karena Beliau lumayan jago TA biarpun ga pernah posting TA di OB. 

duh. saya jadi ingat kesalahan saya waktu itu ;-( tanpa sengaja mengambil 
makanan Beliau karena saya vegetarien. eh ternyata Beliau jg tidak terlalu 
carnivora.

mea culpa, sweetie*
mea culpa
mea maxima culpa

*sweetie : Vera

--- Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:
Von: Andi Wahyudi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik
An: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 12:11











Ah saya ndak yakin Pak kl cewek betulan..soalnya belum liat 
FS-nyaSorry Pak DE; saya duluin he he


2008/7/23 Cleopatras Cat :

> ya beginilah Bu, nasib kuli. ga bisa beli BUMI, PTBA dan kawan kawan nya.

> jadi nyopet nyopet yg lebih murah aja. lumayan kalo dapur bisa tetep ngebul,

> & perut terasa hangat.

>

> buat temans OB yg lain. sekedar Info saja. Bu Vera ini asli cewe. bukan jadi

> jadian hehe saya telah mendapat kehormatan untuk berkenalan dengan beliau

> beberapa waktu lalu. Beliau sangat terpelajar, cantik & sexy. tapi karena

> kesibukan pekerjaan, Ibu Vera sampai saat ini belum mempunyai waktu untuk

> teman yang speziell.

>

> sayangnya, Beliau & saya beda kelas. ya Beliau di PTBA, saya di kasta CNKO.

> dan lg saya pernah melakukan kesalahan besar, yaitu mengambil makanan Beliau

> tanpa sengaja ;-(

>

> post scriptum: Bu, masih di kantor?

>

> --- Vera  schrieb am Mi, 23.7.2008:

>

> Von: Vera 

> Betreff: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBNI Boleh dilirik

> An: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> Datum: Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2008, 9:52

>

> Wah Pak CC jgn sampe batal married gara2 BBNI neh :D

>

> Jgn lupa tar sama sovenir sahamnya ya...

>

> Cheers,

> Vera


  


 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time will tell

[TH]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=a4UeL2qoDeVc
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aXn_zqsR68Xg
Ini berita yg lbh baru, nikel jatuh harganya pak.

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:58 AM, John Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Nickel Gains in London as Stockpiles Decline to Eight-Month Low
>
> By Chanyaporn Chanjaroen
>
> July 21 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel rebounded from a two-year low in London as
> stockpiles of the metal used in stainless steel declined to the smallest in
> eight months, indicating supply is slowing.
>
> Inventories tracked by the London Metal Exchange dropped 6 percent this
> month to 43,728 metric tons, the lowest since Nov. 23. BHP Billiton Ltd.
> this month shut its Kalgoorlie refinery in Western Australia through June
> 2009, cutting sales of the metal by 25,000 tons, or about 57 percent of
> existing LME stockpiles.
>
> ``You probably started to see the impact from supply disruption in Western
> Australia,'' Max 
> Layton,
> an analyst at Macquarie Ltd. in London, said today by phone. ``It may be
> short- lived and overall we see a small surplus this year.''
>
> Nickel for delivery in three months increased $150, or 0.7 percent, to
> $20,550 a ton as of 4:55 p.m. London time. The contract closed July 18 at
> $20,400 a ton, the lowest since June 28, 2006.
>
> The metal is headed for a second consecutive annual drop, after last year's
> 21 percent decline as stainless-steel mills resorted to products containing
> less nickel. Prices may have to fall to about $15,000 a ton to lure back
> consumers, Charles 
> Cooper,
> an analyst at Evolution Securities Ltd., said today.
>
> Boliden AB, the second-largest producer of zinc in Europe, said production
> at the Tara zinc and lead mine in Ireland will decline ``slightly'' in the
> next six to nine months, extending a drop from the first half.
>
> The mine produced an equivalent of 104,019 tons of zinc metal during
> January to June, down 7 percent from a year ago, the Stockholm-based company
> said today in an earnings statement. Lead output fell 11 percent to 13,765
> tons.
>
> Mine Closures
>
> Zinc prices have slumped 22 percent this year and lead 20 percent, making
> mines unprofitable. Tech Cominco Ltd., owner of the world's largest zinc
> mine, said July 15 it would close its Lennard Shelf Pillara mine in Western
> Australia next month, earlier than planned.
>
> Lead jumped $65, or 3.3 percent, to $2,035 a ton and zinc added $20, or 1.1
> percent, to $1,840.
>
> Stockpiles of copper monitored by the exchange have increased 5 percent
> this month to 128,725 tons, the highest since March 12. As inventories have
> been held by ``only a few market participants,'' availability is limited,
> Norddeutsche Affinerie AG, Europe's largest copper refiner, said today in an
> e-mailed newsletter.
>
> Copper for immediate delivery traded at a premium of $241 a ton above the
> benchmark price on July 17, the highest since August 2005 and indicating a
> shortage of nearby futures contracts. The spread was $234 a ton today.
> Borrowing fees for futures for tomorrow delivery were $35 a ton a day.
>
> Lost Output
>
> Aluminum Corp. of China Ltd., the nation's biggest producer of the
> lightweight metal, said it may lose 30,000 tons of output after it trimmed
> some capacity at two ventures in Shanxi province because of a power
> shortage.
>
> Shanxi Huaze Aluminum & Power Co. suspended 25 percent of its 280,000-ton
> annual capacity as of July 18, and Shanxi Huasheng Aluminum Co. stopped 22
> percent of its 220,000-ton capacity, Chalco, as the company is known, said
> in a statement late that day.
>
> Aluminum stockpiles on the LME added 4,975 tons, or 0.4 percent, to 1.12
> million tons, the highest since May 12, 2004. The contract rose $7 to $3,040
> a ton.
>
> Tin increased $75 to $23,500.
>
> To contact the reporter on this story: Chanyaporn 
> Chanjaroenin
>  London at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Last Updated: July 21, 2008 12:01 EDT*
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:47:30 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time
> will tell
>
>
>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Back to Metal

[agung aja]

TINS minggu depan kan ss tuh

so possibility nya gimana bull or bear 

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Ajo Ramon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Back to Metal
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 7:01 PM











Pencinta
metal -trio INCO-ANTM-TINS, udah boleh bersiap-siap buat the next run
for tin and nickel.  Nickel kemarin dihajar which I think is the
effort from big FM to collect at the lower price dan offcourse buat
mematikan competition dari pig iron yang tersedak karena kenaikan harga
iron.  U-turn dari metal ini bisa di trigger oleh trend penurunan
inventory -terutama inventory tin yang udah dibawah 6000MT alias hanya
cukup buat konsumsi global kira2 5 hari, bayangkan kalau PT Timah tutup
gara2 listrik mati 2 hari,,, - dan berkurangnya pressure dari
tingginya mining costs karena harga minyak.
 
Watch out, don't miss the point of the least resistant.


  
  




 

















  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IRC Chat Room #obrolanbandar

[sahambiru]

Bukannya udah ada yah.
Top1.

Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS/EDGE/3G network

-Original Message-
From: "Rully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:32:00 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] IRC Chat Room #obrolanbandar


Men temen,

bagaimana kalau kita buat chatroom di IRC, servernya dalnet aja, karena 
sistem pengamanannya lebih baik?

chatroom ini buka sepanjang waktu trading. mungkin kalau bisa, senior 
OB jadi Op atau malah moderatornya.

Salam,
Rully

[obrolan-bandar] Broker - Margin

[Rully]

26% per annum, Pak Iwan.

wah... bisa margin sampe bulanan gitu... boljug!

nama sekuritasnya apa, Pak?

Terima kasih dan salam,
Rully

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 26% ini utk berapa lama ?
> 
> Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, 
bisa
> sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari.
> 
> Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.
> 
>  
> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau 
bilang
> "I told you"
> 
>  
> 
> 2-3x? wah! I wish!
> 
>  
> 
> kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin 
itu
> belanja sampe 130.
> 
>  
> 
> Bunganya 26%.
> 
>  
> 
> Anything better than this?
> 
>  
> 
> Please advice.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> 2008/7/23 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >:
> 
> 
> 
> Margin berapa 2x? 3x?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>  , "Rully" 

> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> >
> > Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> > 
> > Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> > 
> > Salam,
> > Rully
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>  , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
> margin brp
> > > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
> aja
> > > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
> kecuali
> > > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
> sih di
> > > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
> lain
> >
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang "I told you"

[Iwan.Budi]

26% ini utk berapa lama ?

Pengalaman saya di salah satu sekuritas, kalo pake margin yg T+, bisa
sampe 10 hari. Bunganya 0.1% per hari.

Kalo pake margin yg 3 bulanan, bunga 1.67% / bulan.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rully Ajah
Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2008 11:58 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oentoeng sudah tidak tahan mau bilang
"I told you"

 

2-3x? wah! I wish!

 

kemaren lebih 30 persen dari modal. Anggaplah modalnya 100, kemarin itu
belanja sampe 130.

 

Bunganya 26%.

 

Anything better than this?

 

Please advice.

 

Thanks...

2008/7/23 jos_martino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >:



Margin berapa 2x? 3x?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

wrote: 


>
> Sadis ya...? Margin-nya memang dah 4 trading days, sih...
> 
> Mendingan pindah aja gitu?
> 
> Salam,
> Rully
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > di suspend om rully? sadis bener seh brokernya. emang udah 
margin brp
> > lama? slama ini alhamdulillah cuma OD yg sadis ke gw. gw keluar 
aja
> > dari OD (byk alasan lain jg sih). sekuritas2 gw baek2 neh. 
kecuali
> > mgkn yg terbaru. naga2x mereka jg cukup sadis. blm pernah utang 
sih di
> > sini. tar klo sadis gw tutup jg aja account gw. pindahin ke yg 
lain
>

 

 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time will tell

[John Sun]

Nickel Gains in London as Stockpiles Decline to Eight-Month Low 

By Chanyaporn Chanjaroen
July 21 (Bloomberg) -- Nickel rebounded from a two-year low in London as 
stockpiles of the metal used in stainless steel declined to the smallest in 
eight months, indicating supply is slowing. 
Inventories tracked by the London Metal Exchange dropped 6 percent this month 
to 43,728 metric tons, the lowest since Nov. 23. BHP Billiton Ltd. this month 
shut its Kalgoorlie refinery in Western Australia through June 2009, cutting 
sales of the metal by 25,000 tons, or about 57 percent of existing LME 
stockpiles. 
``You probably started to see the impact from supply disruption in Western 
Australia,'' Max Layton, an analyst at Macquarie Ltd. in London, said today by 
phone. ``It may be short- lived and overall we see a small surplus this year.'' 
Nickel for delivery in three months increased $150, or 0.7 percent, to $20,550 
a ton as of 4:55 p.m. London time. The contract closed July 18 at $20,400 a 
ton, the lowest since June 28, 2006. 
The metal is headed for a second consecutive annual drop, after last year's 21 
percent decline as stainless-steel mills resorted to products containing less 
nickel. Prices may have to fall to about $15,000 a ton to lure back consumers, 
Charles Cooper, an analyst at Evolution Securities Ltd., said today. 
Boliden AB, the second-largest producer of zinc in Europe, said production at 
the Tara zinc and lead mine in Ireland will decline ``slightly'' in the next 
six to nine months, extending a drop from the first half. 
The mine produced an equivalent of 104,019 tons of zinc metal during January to 
June, down 7 percent from a year ago, the Stockholm-based company said today in 
an earnings statement. Lead output fell 11 percent to 13,765 tons. 
Mine Closures 
Zinc prices have slumped 22 percent this year and lead 20 percent, making mines 
unprofitable. Tech Cominco Ltd., owner of the world's largest zinc mine, said 
July 15 it would close its Lennard Shelf Pillara mine in Western Australia next 
month, earlier than planned. 
Lead jumped $65, or 3.3 percent, to $2,035 a ton and zinc added $20, or 1.1 
percent, to $1,840. 
Stockpiles of copper monitored by the exchange have increased 5 percent this 
month to 128,725 tons, the highest since March 12. As inventories have been 
held by ``only a few market participants,'' availability is limited, 
Norddeutsche Affinerie AG, Europe's largest copper refiner, said today in an 
e-mailed newsletter. 
Copper for immediate delivery traded at a premium of $241 a ton above the 
benchmark price on July 17, the highest since August 2005 and indicating a 
shortage of nearby futures contracts. The spread was $234 a ton today. 
Borrowing fees for futures for tomorrow delivery were $35 a ton a day. 
Lost Output 
Aluminum Corp. of China Ltd., the nation's biggest producer of the lightweight 
metal, said it may lose 30,000 tons of output after it trimmed some capacity at 
two ventures in Shanxi province because of a power shortage. 
Shanxi Huaze Aluminum & Power Co. suspended 25 percent of its 280,000-ton 
annual capacity as of July 18, and Shanxi Huasheng Aluminum Co. stopped 22 
percent of its 220,000-ton capacity, Chalco, as the company is known, said in a 
statement late that day. 
Aluminum stockpiles on the LME added 4,975 tons, or 0.4 percent, to 1.12 
million tons, the highest since May 12, 2004. The contract rose $7 to $3,040 a 
ton. 
Tin increased $75 to $23,500. 
To contact the reporter on this story: Chanyaporn Chanjaroen in London at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Last Updated: July 21, 2008 12:01 EDT 



- Original Message 
From: Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:47:30 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUY INCO @ 3400 ANTM @ 1650? is it possible? time 
will tell



 


  

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Finance Sector : Wellcome BULL

[Iwan.Budi]

Pak Hendrik,

 

Bila sampeyan ditanya mana yg lebih bullish antara property dan banking,
anda pilih mana?

 

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hendrik_lwww
Sent: Thursday, 24 July 2008 4:03 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Finance Sector : Wellcome BULL

 

Banking Kembasli BULL
Menembus Mid Term Dowtrend
dan kembali ks short Term Uptrend yang sempat patah

chart : 
http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/07/finance-uptrend_23.html
 

 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nggak ada hutang FPNI lagi yaaa.... Yang mau bersabar will gain much more...

[arianto widodo]

Pak TOM thx ya FPNI nya.saya siap menanti deh kelanjutannya. ^^. 
btw ada info tentang LCGP ga pak?maennya gmn seh ga ngerti ni.hrgnya diatas 
smua:(
THX



- Original Message 
From: Tom DS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:16:37 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nggak ada hutang FPNI lagi yaaa Yang mau 
bersabar will gain much more...


Saya nggak bilang apa-apa lho soal UNSP...
 
UNSP agak sulit dikendalikan karena banyak pemain disana, juga retailer banyak 
sekali... Paling cuma bisa pancing-pancing satu sesi...
 
 
T.o.m

 
On 7/23/08, indriyanta s. <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: 
Hutang FPNI udah lunas, Mas Tom.
Sekarang tinggal nunggu Mas Tom memainkan rombongan Kethek Ogleng (UNSP).. 
..
Makasih
 
Indriyanta

--- On Wed, 7/23/08, Tom DS  wrote:
 
From: Tom DS 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Nggak ada hutang FPNI lagi yaaa Yang mau 
bersabar will gain much more...
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, investium_saham@ 
yahoogroups. com, junior_Trader@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 9:01 AM


Nggak lah, FPNI masih jadi salah satu portfolio saya...
Ada dua big player lagi yang mulai masuk ke FPNI. Siap-siap kalau ada gejolak 
yang nggak lazim don't panic, analyze carefully..
 
Yupp.. we've got companies... . =)
 
Kalau Q2 2008 keluar, jangan langsung di compare dengan Q1 2008, tapi compare 
dengan periode yang sama 2007,karena trend Q1 agak berbeda dengan Q2.
 
Happy cuan buat yang udah realisasikan profit... Kalau mau lebih sabar padahal 
bisa gain lebih banyak lho.. =)
 
 
T.o.m

 
On 7/23/08, Prasetyo, Hani  wrote: 
Maksutnya pak Tom udah ga jagain FPNI lagi n ganti mainken saham lainnya?
Saham apa nih target anda berikutnya?


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] 
On Behalf Of Tom DS
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:31 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com; junior_Trader@ 
yahoogroups. com; investium_saham@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Nggak ada hutang FPNI lagi yaaa Yang mau bersabar 
will gain much more...
 
Dear all,
 
Saya sudah nggak ada hutang FPNI lagi ya...
Harga sudah dikembalikan ke fair price sesuai hasil Q1 2008. Meskipun masih 
sangat undervalue, tapi memperhitungkan kondisi market yang sedang kurang 
stabil serta sentimen negatif dari cash out para investment banker yang rugi, 
harga segitu masih cukup menarik lah..
 
Kalau masih mau bersabar I'm quite sure you'll gain much more.. =)
 
 
T.o.m
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Maafin tikus sawah yah,,,

[conx_2003]

heheheh ini versi lainnya dari " I told u so "?

hari ini JPRS ke berapa nih 1000 atau AR?

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Minyak < $125 & Coal - 4,19 %

[Vic]

maning2 bumi hehehe


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Sulistyo Winarto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maaf pak Rheza, baru bisa balas. Coal bisa dilihat di DOW Jones coal
index (DOWI:DJUSCL) (terlampir)...Salam
> NB : Disclaimer ONwong cuma bisa copy paste he2x
> 
> 
> Oil Settles Below $125, Hitting a
> Six-Week Low
> Sectors:Oil
> and Gas
> By Reuters | 23 Jul 2008 | 09:40 AM
> ET 
> Oil prices fell $4 to a six-week low
> Wednesday after a U.S. government report reinforced concerns high
prices and
> economic turmoil were slashing into the nation's energy demand.
> The slide extends oil's losses to
> more than $20 from the all-time peak above $147 a barrel hit July
11â€"the
> steepest drop in dollar terms in the market's history.
> "The deteriorating demand
> picture reinforces our belief that oil prices are approaching a
tipping point,"
> investment bank Lehman Brothers said in a research note.
> U.S.
> crude oil
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 124.480.04  (+0.03%)] fell $3.98 to settle at $124.44 a barrel
after touching a low of
> $124.30. London Brent 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 125.35-4.20 
> (-3.24%)] crude fell $4.11 to $125.44 a
> barrel.
> The losses came after the U.S.
> Energy Information Administration released a report showing a
surprisingly
> large increase in domestic gasoline stockpiles last week,
accompanied by weak
> implied demand.
> 
> 
> - Pesan Asli 
> Dari: kspm_rheza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Terkirim: Rabu, 23 Juli, 2008 08:38:09
> Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Coal - 6,85 % & Oil turun > $3
> 
> 
> dapet data Coal intraday di US -6,85 % tu liatnya dmn pak?
> 
> thx b4
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Sulistyo Winarto
>  wrote:
> >
> > Pak JM & Senior OB, Bakal merah tuakah IHSG hari ini ? Coal intraday
> di US -6,85 % sempat sampai - 8%. Minyak sempat turun  $ 5. SALAM 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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[obrolan-bandar] IRC Chat Room #obrolanbandar

[Rully]

Men temen,

bagaimana kalau kita buat chatroom di IRC, servernya dalnet aja, karena 
sistem pengamanannya lebih baik?

chatroom ini buka sepanjang waktu trading. mungkin kalau bisa, senior 
OB jadi Op atau malah moderatornya.

Salam,
Rully