[obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[t_bumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "boyz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> com, White Beauty  
> wrote:
> >
> > Mr Dean kalau mau short jangan bilang 
> bilang di sini, ada yang punya saham 
> saham komoditas dan berkepentingan 
> sering nongol di OB, ada yang punya 0,
> 4... % saham Bumi juga sering lirik lirik 
> OB.
> > 
> 
> Mr. x tsb bukan cuma ngelirik OB,  
> moderator-nya OB malah,  alias  mBah...
> hehehe...
>
  Sip : tbumi

Mr X sdh pakai teropong besar utk memantau saham BUMI.

Investor biasa lebih baik ngelirik amoy yg berada di gedung

sekuritas. 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: invest ap ya ??

[t_bumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "hendrik_lwww" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Sip : tbumi

Taruh di bursa saham yang lagi goyang kiri dan kanan, nanti akan

pusing.

Taruh di bank dlm jlh besar juga binggung, karena bank bila 

bangkrut maka habislah depositonya.

Taruh di rumah juga takut, karena maling banyak sekali, bahkan

di bursa saham saja banyak yg copek kiri dan kanan.

Kesimpulan kami : saat ini lebih baik jadi orang miskin saja 

sementara karena orang kaya lagi pusing mau dikemanakan

dana mereka saat ini.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[boyz]

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
com, White Beauty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Mr Dean kalau mau short jangan bilang 
bilang di sini, ada yang punya saham 
saham komoditas dan berkepentingan 
sering nongol di OB, ada yang punya 0,
4... % saham Bumi juga sering lirik lirik 
OB.
> 

Mr. x tsb bukan cuma ngelirik OB,  
moderator-nya OB malah,  alias  mBah...
hehehe...

[obrolan-bandar] China Steps Up July LNG Spot Buys; Pays Record Price

[farhan zailani]

BEIJING (Dow Jones)--China stepped up its purchases of liquefied natural gas 
from the spot market in July, with three cargoes totaling over 185,000 metric 
tons unloaded at southern ports, data from the General Administration of 
Customs showed Friday. 
Cargoes originated from Egypt, Nigeria and Algeria last month, bringing total 
spot volumes unloaded this year to 485,670 tons, the data showed. 
Prices for these cargoes have also hit a record for China, averaging around $17 
per million British Thermal Units from $13/mmbtu in May. 
Spot purchases have been condensed into a three-month period running from May 
to July, after high gas prices at the beginning of the year curtailed demand. 
China's return to the spot market is seasonal - due to high summer power 
demand, analysts said. 
These purchases also reflect a change in the country's attitude toward 
higher-priced LNG imports as global prices have risen and supply has tightened, 
they said. 
China wants to increase natural gas use as part of efforts to reduce its 
dependence on dirty fuels such as crude oil and coal, which it blames for air 
pollution and a worsening environment. 
LNG currently meets around 2%-3% of energy requirements in the southern 
province of Guangdong where China's only operational LNG terminal is located. 
The flagship Dapeng complex, which cost more than $3.6 billion, was 
commissioned in May 2006 and began commercial operations four months later. 
Guangdong Dapeng LNG Co. has been supplementing long-term supplies with cargoes 
from the spot market. The terminal has a 25-year contract to receive LNG from 
Australia's North West Shelf venture. 
Guangdong Dapeng LNG is a joint venture; shareholders include units of China 
National Offshore Oil Corp. and BP PLC (BP), with stakes of 33% and 30%, 
respectively. Other partners include Shenzhen Gas Corp., Guangzhou Gas Co. and 
Hong Kong & China Gas Investment Ltd. (HOKCY). 
 
   Below is a table of China's LNG imports in July (in metric tons) 
 
  Jul% ChangeJan-Jul%Change 
  On Year   On Year 
Total   374,692+5.21%   1,913,036   +39.23% 
Australia   189,430   -36.96%   1,427,366   +13.36% 
Egypt59,544 - 182,011- 
Nigeria  61,039 - 181,360 - 
Algeria  64,679   +16.28% 64,679   +16.28% 
Equal Guinea  - -  57,620 - 
 
Source: General Administration of Customs 



  
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: TA: Antara MACD, cross dan triangle

[boyz]

Di backtest aja Pak DE.
MISAL, sample 50 saham with data 5 
tahun terakhir.

Berapa banyak saham yg Dead Cross  di 
area positif  and ternyata  Bear trap,  
dan  brp  yg  valid.

Berapa banyak saham yg Golden Cross 
di area negatif and ternyata Bull  trap, 
dan brp yg valid.

And jangan lupa share hasilnya ke kita-2, 
pak,  hehehe...

Salam,


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]
com, "Dean Earwicker"  wrote:
>
> Mo nanya aja,
> 
> Selama ini saya selalu nganggap:
> 
> MACD dead cross di area positif = 
bear trap (tech correction), kecuali
> disinyalir MACD bikin desc. triangle
> MACD golden cross di area negatif = 
bull trap (tech rebound), kecuali
> disinyalir MACD bikin asc. triangle
> 
> Apakah hal diatas benar?
> 
> Regards,
> DE
> 
> Pada 22 Agustus 2008 08:56, 
JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> 
> >Buset.., tuh volumenya gede 
amat…, candle cakep, macd keren….., 
hmmm..
> > mudah-mudahan ngga kebablasan 
lah, ngga bagus juga….
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: invest ap ya ??

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "pixie_gen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> g newbie nih. ad saran gak sebaiknya taon 2008 masuk ke ORI5, saham,
> or reksadana ?? thx ya..
>
Saat ini sebaiknya sih mulai disversivikasi..
Saham, ORI / OBLGASI, dan VALAS.

soalnya kondisi bura lagi tidak menentuk 
obligasi saat ini bunganya udah lumayan  menarik kok. 
dan memberikan return yang lebih pasti dibandingkan saham.
(high risk high return).

Jadi saat ini juga masukan obligasi ke komponen porto anda, shingga 
pada saat bursa sudah lebih stabil barulah kembali ke pasar saham..

ketreangan lanjut silahkan japri saya.. ada beberapa konsep 
disversivikasi porto yang buat saya cukup menjanjikan yah agak 
konserfatip sih.. 

[obrolan-bandar] invest ap ya ??

[pixie_gen]

g newbie nih. ad saran gak sebaiknya taon 2008 masuk ke ORI5, saham,
or reksadana ?? thx ya..

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

[Indra dwipayana]

same as you bro..
Big money towards to BUMI now...
Mgkn hari ini bisa tembus ke 5650



- Original Message 
From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:13:44 AM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday


Bukan ajakan.., Bukan himbauan,
sekedar sharing aja…, I am averaging up BUMI 5550…, Reason-nya just
following the BIG Money… but I could be wrong.., so jangan ikut-ikutan.
 
JsxTrader
 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ps.com] On
Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: 22 Agustus 2008 10:51
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday
 
5650-5750 area resistance yang cukup kuat… kalau hari
ini tembus dan berhasil close diatas itu…, harga akan lari lebih
kencang.., dengan asumsi harga minyak stabil. 
 
Sementara terlihat BIS sedang berhenti, untuk
‘mempersilahkan’ penumpang yang mau turun di 5550 untuk turun dgn
selamat…  the choice is your…., Goodluck !!
 
JsxTrader 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] APAKAH SUDAH mulai undload aali

[Kaisar]

Not yet. Short term TP 22,000.



- Original Message 
From: Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 11:18:46 AM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] APAKAH SUDAH mulai undload aali


sy udah tp saya sisain 30% utk LT ekkekee
 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Indah Kiat (INKP IJ) to deny rights issue rumor

[Daniel SR]

Pernyataan resmi INKP sudah ada di website nya BEI ( www.idx.co.id ) bahwa
INKP sama sekali tidak ada rencana untuk right issue ataupun menerbitkan
obligasi. INKP akan melakukan ekspansi sesuai dengan kemampuan yang ada.

2008/8/21 simon bolenang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   *Indah Kiat (INKP IJ) to deny rights issue rumor*. INKP management said
> it will come out with an official denial of the rumors regarding a planned
> rights issue, which is the reason the stock got hammered recently.
> Namanya juga rumor, bisa benar bisa salah, jangan2 lagi cari barang
> murah, bandar hembusin rumor, biar pd cut lose.
>
>  
>



-- 
God loves u

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INKP Jadi Right Issue?

[Daniel SR]

Kagak bro, itu cuma rumor di harian Kontan doang. INKP nya sudah keluarin
pernyataan resmi di website nya BEI ( www.idx.co.id ) bahwa mereka tidak ada
rencana buat right issue atau menerbitkan obligasi, jadi apa yang tertulis
di kontan bahwa INKP sedang menjajaki right issue atau mengeluarkan obligasi
adalah tidak benar.

Semoga info ini bisa membantu.


2008/8/22 abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   Hari ini ditarik lg.
> Please ada yg punya info, INKP jadi apa kagak RI?
>
> Nyebelin d emiten2 yang RI
>
> 2008/8/21 abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> >:
> > INKP mulai rebound. Apakah RI ditunda?
> >
>  
>



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[White Beauty]

Mr Dean kalau mau short jangan bilang bilang di sini, ada yang punya saham 
saham komoditas dan berkepentingan sering nongol di OB, ada yang punya 0,4... % 
saham Bumi juga sering lirik lirik OB.

--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 4:26 AM







Wah aku kalo ngeshort intraday komo bisa coan gak yah...?

soalnya...ah soalnya apa ya..hehe..

Regards,
DE


2008/8/22 Lala Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>





mbah dan kawan2.. 
coba dibantu.. apakah dengan minyak 120 us berarti era bearish oill dan 
komoditi sudah selesai ? apakah sudah bleh hold untuk long ? ato masih trading 
strategy ? 

thanks. 


--- On Fri, 8/22/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>

Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 3:26 AM







Overhead Resistance area 5650-5750 …, probabilita hari ini  tembus kecil, 
kecuali ada volume extreme… let see
 

 
 
 


From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ps..com] On Behalf Of Prasetyo, Hani

Sent: 22 Agustus 2008 10:13
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

 
Chart BUMInya pak JT… bakal tembus 5650 euy… sipp dahhh
 




From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
ps..com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:23 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

 




· Hari ini trading BUMI masih taraf 'gertak-gertakan' ..., Trader yg sdh
kebelet & ngga kuat mental akhirnya kabur di 5300 sore tadi diakhir sesi..,
kalau anda lihat di 5 menit terakhir 5300 banyak yg exit tapi diisi terus
sama si Om sikit-sikit (2000 lot each) supaya ngga ngagetin kalo diisi 1
sekaligus... ., simple question on my mind.., why would they buy 5300
sore-sore sementara orang lain pada keluar...?? So, yg tadinya mau balik
badan di 5300 ngga jadi dah..., si Om aja beli..., jadi saya bungkus lagi
deh hehehe

JsxTrader


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[obrolan-bandar] Market News: Merrill, Goldman, Deutsche Agree to Buy Back Auction-Rate Debt

[dunia ini indah]

Market News: Merrill, Goldman, Deutsche Agree to Buy Back Auction-Rate Debt


 Aug. 22 (Bloomberg) -- Merrill Lynch & Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and 
Deutsche Bank AG agreed to pay $160 million in fines and buy back as much as 
$15 billion in failed auction-rate securities, settling probes by state 
regulators.

The accords bring to eight the number of firms that settled claims in the last 
two weeks that they misled investors by fraudulently marketing the long-term 
securities as easy to buy and sell. Merrill, among the biggest underwriters of 
the debt, will redeem up to $12 billion and pay fines of $125 million, the 
second-largest penalty to date from the probes.

``It's been a great day of progress,'' said New York Attorney General Andrew 
Cuomo, who announced the agreements this afternoon. Merrill Chief Executive 
Officer John Thain, who took part in talks that led to yesterday's agreement, 
knew his firm had to ``step up to the plate,'' Cuomo said.

Wall Street banks are settling claims stemming from a nationwide investigation 
into allegations banks peddled auction- rate securities as investments that 
were as liquid as cash. The $330 billion market seized up in February, when the 
credit crisis prompted banks to stop supporting the periodic auctions at which 
the long-term securities were bought and sold.

Goldman will buy back $1.5 billion of the securities and pay a $22.5 million 
fine, Cuomo said. Deutsche Bank will redeem $1 billion of debt and was fined 
$15 million. Merrill, which offered on Aug. 7 to buy back $10 billion of debt 
starting in January, will now start buying it in October. 


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601100&sid=aWhYCrt_9SLc&refer=germany



  

[obrolan-bandar] RI Masuk 20 Negara dengan PDB Terbesar

[kangduren]

Jakarta - Produk Domestik Bruto (PDB) Indonesia pada 2007 mencapai Rp
3.957 triliun. PDB sebesar ini membuat Indonesia masuk dalam daftar 20
negara dengan PD terbesar di dunia.

Demikian disampaikan Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono (SBY) dalam
Sidang Paripurna DPD di Gedung DPR/MPR, Jakarta, Jumat (22/8/2008).

"Sementara itu Produk Domestik Bruto 2007 telah mencapai Rp 3.957
triliun. Dengan PDB sebesar itu Indonesia termasuk dalam 20 negara
dengan PDB terbesar di dunia," ujarnya.

Tak hanya itu, pendapatan per kapita Indonesia juga terus meningkat
dalam tiga tahun belakangan sebesar 64%. Jika pada 2004 US$ 1.186,
maka pada 2007 menjadi US$ 1.946. Menurut SBY, angka ini merupakan
pencapaian yang lebih tinggi bahkan jika dibandingkan sebelum krisis.

"Pendapatan per kapita kita baru mencapai US$ 1.186, dan pada 2007
menjadi US$ 1.946 atau meningkat 64% dalam 3 tahun. Angka ini juga
merupakan capaian pendapatan perkapita yang lebih tinggi dari masa
sebelum krisis ekonomi 1998," katanya.

Dengan pencapaian ini, menurut SBY menunjukan kalau Indonesia sudah
telah lepas dari krisis meskipun masih banyak tantangan yang harus
dihadapi.

(lih/qom)



kalau dilhat sejalan dg peningkatan harga komoditas, memang ekonomi
ada kalanya tidak seiring dg kesejahteraan, tergantung pemerintahnya.
Cobalah jangan terlalu emosional dg kenaikan harga komoditas. Lebih
baik memikirkan agar keuntungan SDA ini dapat tersalurkan.

salam

[obrolan-bandar] Coal

[kangduren]

SHANGHAI, Aug 21 (Reuters) - China has asked its coal exporters to
reduce exports, as it is in the grip of its worst power crisis since
2004, largely caused by a coal shortage and high prices.

The government is eager to keep more supply back for local generators,
many of which have been unable or unwilling to buy expensive coal.

But the move, together with the export tax hike, is unlikely to
greatly ease the coal and power shortages in China.

The government did not issue a written order, but made the request
orally in a meeting held last week just before it hiked export taxes
on coal, but the extent of the export reduction sought was not clear,
traders said.

..

[obrolan-bandar] Market News: Asia stocks at 2-yr low

[dunia ini indah]

Market News: Asia stocks at 2-yr low;


 (Reuters) - Asian stocks slipped to a two-year low on Friday, falling for a 
fourth straight week, as a surge in oil prices to above $121 knocked the U.S. 
dollar and the spiraling financial crisis showed no signs of ending.

Crude prices have been driven up 6.5 percent this week on escalating tensions 
between the United States and Russia, the world's second-largest oil exporter. 
Russia's military intervention in Georgia has disrupted crude transit, 
supporting prices.

A rise in commodity prices cut short a two-week rally in the U.S. dollar, 
though analysts said the currency's 1.3 percent decline this week was 
understandable given its stellar rise recently and that an upward trend is 
still intact.

The MSCI pan-Asia stock index .MIAS0PUS was down 0.3 percent, after hitting 
a two-year low in early trade. The Asia-Pacific ex-Japan index .MIAPJPUS 
edged up 0.2 percent though was off 2.7 percent on the week.

South Korea's KOSPI tumbled about 2 percent to a 16-month low, with shares of 
the country's top retail lender leading the index lower.


THE END IS NEAR?

Some analysts said Asian markets were getting closer to a bottom, assuming that 
the U.S. recession began when regional markets peaked in November 2007.

"We think the start of the recession will be pinned down to November last year 
-- which means that, as long as this is just a normal cyclical recession, the 
bottom for stocks could come very soon," said Garry Evans, Asia-Pacific equity 
strategist with HSBC in Hong Kong.

Over the last 50 years, U.S. recessions lasted between six and 16 months. U.S. 
stocks on average bottomed four months before the economy would level out and 
Asia stocks about a month later, Evans said in a research note.






  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya, Repo! mekanismenya gmn? in conjunction w/ bumi-bnbr

[Lindt]

Ami  Besok2 bisa ngelamar jd dosen beneran kali. 

Hehehehe


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-Original Message-
From: vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:39:47 
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya, Repo! mekanismenya gmn? in conjunction w/ 
bumi-bnbr


Koq neranginnya kyk dosen finance ya???

2008/8/21 Lindt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Utang bisa dr macem2. Paling gampang cari utang dengan bunga paling
> gede dengan commercial paper. Itu kalau dalam balance sheet adanya paling
> atas. Termasuk utang lancar/hutang jangka pendek. Bunganya gede. Jadi kalo
> liat balance sheet komposisi hutang lancar dan hutang tidak lancar serta
> harta lancar dan harta tidak lancar seimbang, itu artinya perusahaannya ga
> sehat dan sulit mendapatkan utang jangka panjang untuk mendanai proyek2
> jangka panjang.
>
> Costnya juga gede krn perush dibiayai oleh hutang jk pendek yg bunganya
> gede. Apalagi perusahaannya bukan perusahaan dagang yg punya inventory
> banyak, sbnrnya utang jangka pendeknya ga boleh lbh bnyk dr hutang jk
> panjang kalau bukan perush dagang or jasa..
>
> Commercial paper jaminannya saham. Umurnya ga lebih dr 1 th tp bisa
> diperpanjang. Biasanya klu hut jk panjang jaminannya fixed asset.
> Tp lucu juga ya reponya bnbr 2 th . Apa bener begitu ? Atau bisa
> diperpanjang hingga 2 th, tp per 3 bl or 6 bl misalnya.
>
> Untuk lembaga yg memberikan pinjaman melalui commercial paper itu tergolong
> high risk, gampang default, pinjaman yg diberikan tidak dibayar. Yang
> menyebabkan kita krismon th 1997 salah besarnya adalah commercial paper ini.
> Debiturnya pada ngemplang ..
>
> Dulu th 1997 bunga overnight dg jaminan saham2 bisa 200persen per tahunnya.
> Biar kreditur bisa happy dg bunga segede gitu tetep ga berani minjemin krn
> stl duit dikucurkan abis itu default. Boro2 ngarep bunga, pokok/principal
> nya juga raib.
>
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> *From*: chery thalia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *Date*: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:46:49 -0700 (PDT)
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya, Repo! mekanismenya gmn? in conjunction
> w/ bumi-bnbr
>
>
>
> Tanya., Repo dong!!/./ mekanismenya gmn?,. in conjunction w/ bumi-bnbr
>
>
> thx,.,
>
>
>   
>



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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[Halim Mintareja]

tek tok tek tok...

hari ini atau senin ya ??

gatal juga nih lihat monitor ha...ha..

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Dean Earwicker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>  Wah aku kalo ngeshort intraday komo bisa coan gak yah...?
>
> soalnya...ah soalnya apa ya..hehe..
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> 2008/8/22 Lala Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>  mbah dan kawan2..
>> coba dibantu.. apakah dengan minyak 120 us berarti era bearish oill dan
>> komoditi sudah selesai ? apakah sudah bleh hold untuk long ? ato masih
>> trading strategy ?
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 8/22/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>>
>> From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah
>> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 3:26 AM
>>
>>   Overhead Resistance area 5650-5750 …, probabilita hari ini  tembus
>> kecil, kecuali ada volume extreme… let see
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: bumi 1 minute.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ps.com] *On Behalf Of *Prasetyo, Hani
>> *Sent:* 22 Agustus 2008 10:13
>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran
>> mbah
>>
>>
>>
>> Chart BUMInya pak JT… bakal tembus 5650 euy… sipp dahhh
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ps.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:23 PM
>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>> *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran
>> mbah
>>
>>
>>
>> · Hari ini trading BUMI masih taraf 'gertak-gertakan' ..., Trader
>> yg sdh
>> kebelet & ngga kuat mental akhirnya kabur di 5300 sore tadi diakhir
>> sesi..,
>> kalau anda lihat di 5 menit terakhir 5300 banyak yg exit tapi diisi terus
>> sama si Om sikit-sikit (2000 lot each) supaya ngga ngagetin kalo diisi
>> 1
>> sekaligus... ., simple question on my mind.., why would they buy 5300
>> sore-sore sementara orang lain pada keluar...?? So, yg tadinya mau balik
>> badan di 5300 ngga jadi dah..., si Om aja beli..., jadi saya bungkus lagi
>> deh hehehe
>>
>> JsxTrader
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

[JsxTrader]

Ok.., I take over yours., just ave up 5550.,  wish me luck.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Prasetyo, Hani
Sent: 22 Agustus 2008 11:11
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

 

i am out. 5550..

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:51 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

 

5650-5750 area resistance yang cukup kuat. kalau hari ini tembus dan
berhasil close diatas itu., harga akan lari lebih kencang.., dengan asumsi
harga minyak stabil. 

 

Sementara terlihat BIS sedang berhenti, untuk 'mempersilahkan' penumpang
yang mau turun di 5550 untuk turun dgn selamat.  the choice is your..,
Goodluck !!

 

JsxTrader

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[Dean Earwicker]

Wah aku kalo ngeshort intraday komo bisa coan gak yah...?

soalnya...ah soalnya apa ya..hehe..

Regards,
DE

2008/8/22 Lala Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> mbah dan kawan2..
> coba dibantu.. apakah dengan minyak 120 us berarti era bearish oill dan
> komoditi sudah selesai ? apakah sudah bleh hold untuk long ? ato masih
> trading strategy ?
>
> thanks.
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 8/22/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 3:26 AM
>
>   Overhead Resistance area 5650-5750 …, probabilita hari ini  tembus
> kecil, kecuali ada volume extreme… let see
>
>
>
> [image: bumi 1 minute.png]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ps.com] *On Behalf Of *Prasetyo, Hani
> *Sent:* 22 Agustus 2008 10:13
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran
> mbah
>
>
>
> Chart BUMInya pak JT… bakal tembus 5650 euy… sipp dahhh
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ps.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:23 PM
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran
> mbah
>
>
>
> · Hari ini trading BUMI masih taraf 'gertak-gertakan' ..., Trader
> yg sdh
> kebelet & ngga kuat mental akhirnya kabur di 5300 sore tadi diakhir sesi..,
> kalau anda lihat di 5 menit terakhir 5300 banyak yg exit tapi diisi terus
> sama si Om sikit-sikit (2000 lot each) supaya ngga ngagetin kalo diisi
> 1
> sekaligus... ., simple question on my mind.., why would they buy 5300
> sore-sore sementara orang lain pada keluar...?? So, yg tadinya mau balik
> badan di 5300 ngga jadi dah..., si Om aja beli..., jadi saya bungkus lagi
> deh hehehe
>
> JsxTrader
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI - Intraday

[malaikat1983]

Saya lagi nunggu bisnya berhenti di 5700.

ngga enak dari kemarin doa malemnya supaya minyak naik.

hahaha

-m83-


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 5650-5750 area resistance yang cukup kuat. kalau hari ini tembus dan
> berhasil close diatas itu., harga akan lari lebih kencang.., dengan
asumsi
> harga minyak stabil. 
> 
>  
> 
> Sementara terlihat BIS sedang berhenti, untuk 'mempersilahkan' penumpang
> yang mau turun di 5550 untuk turun dgn selamat.  the choice is your..,
> Goodluck !!
> 
>  
> 
> JsxTrader
>

[obrolan-bandar] APAKAH SUDAH mulai undload aali

[Vincent Chase]

sy udah tp saya sisain 30% utk LT ekkekee

   

RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

[JsxTrader]

Bukan ajakan.., Bukan himbauan, sekedar sharing aja., I am averaging up BUMI
5550., Reason-nya just following the BIG Money. but I could be wrong.., so
jangan ikut-ikutan.

 

JsxTrader

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: 22 Agustus 2008 10:51
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

 

5650-5750 area resistance yang cukup kuat. kalau hari ini tembus dan
berhasil close diatas itu., harga akan lari lebih kencang.., dengan asumsi
harga minyak stabil. 

 

Sementara terlihat BIS sedang berhenti, untuk 'mempersilahkan' penumpang
yang mau turun di 5550 untuk turun dgn selamat.  the choice is your..,
Goodluck !!

 

JsxTrader

 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

[Prasetyo, Hani]

i am out... 5550..

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:51 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

 

5650-5750 area resistance yang cukup kuat... kalau hari ini tembus dan
berhasil close diatas itu..., harga akan lari lebih kencang.., dengan
asumsi harga minyak stabil. 

 

Sementara terlihat BIS sedang berhenti, untuk 'mempersilahkan' penumpang
yang mau turun di 5550 untuk turun dgn selamat...  the choice is
your, Goodluck !!

 

JsxTrader

 


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI AGAIN

[Dick Q]

Gak ngaruh tuh...karena itu hasil penjualan saham KPC thn lalu. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Hendarmin Jong 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 8:48 AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI AGAIN


LABA BERSIH BUMI SEMESTER 1 TURUN 58% ATAU $15,67 / SAHAM.JADI $301,79 
JUTA DIBANDINGKAN THN SEBELUMNYA $729,29 JUTA.
   

   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Properti & Infrastruktur koq memblleee !!!!!!!

[Maddy Vain]

RAPBN untuk infrastruktur cuman disetujui sekitar 3% jauh dari harapan, padahal 
di negara lain rata rata dana untuk pembangunan infrastruktur sekitar 10%. 
Inflasi dan global market yang slow down membuat property belum bagus.
Tapi dengan pulihnya COAL, CPO dkk semoga saja membantu sektor lain untuk tidak 
terjun bebas, sebab komoditi masih andalan penopang IHSG.
Tentu saja bozz masih memilih masuk saham komoditi sebab masih asyik asyik aja 
ceritanya. Kayaknya tepat sekali dengan pengunguman RAPBN untuk infrastruktur 
yang mengecewakan dan harga komoditas yang rebound bozz langsung ambil 
posisi.
Mungkin infrastruktur tahun depan lebih baik dari sekarang... (semoga saja) 
kalo sekarang ya nikmati saja gain dari grup si-komo dulu.

--- On Fri, 8/22/08, D Notoprodjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: D Notoprodjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Properti & Infrastruktur koq memblleee !!!
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 1:44 AM







Pak DE,
 
Saat Mining & Agro merah, Properti & Infrastruktur hijau. Apa ini berarti 
distribusi properti & infrastruktur sambil akumulasi mining & agro? Dan 
sekarang sebaliknya? CMIIW
 
Salam,
Noto

 
On 8/21/08, Dean Earwicker  wrote: 






Menurut bapak, kenapa?

Regards,
DE


Pada 21 Agustus 2008 16:06, hendi_lie <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> menulis:

Mau minta info kenapa properti & infrasruktur (CTRA , SMRA , JSMR)
pada merah semua ?


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[Lala Tobing]

mbah dan kawan2.. coba dibantu.. apakah dengan minyak 120 us berarti era bearish oill dan komoditi sudah selesai ? apakah sudah bleh hold untuk long ? ato masih trading strategy ? thanks. --- On Fri, 8/22/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbahTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, August 22, 2008, 3:26 AM














Overhead Resistance area 5650-5750 …, probabilita hari ini
 tembus kecil, kecuali ada volume extreme… let see 

   

 

   

   

   





From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On
Behalf Of Prasetyo, Hani
Sent: 22 Agustus 2008 10:13
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran
mbah 





   

Chart BUMInya pak JT… bakal tembus 5650 euy… sipp dahhh 

   









From:
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On
Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:23 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran
mbah 



   









·
Hari ini trading BUMI masih taraf
'gertak-gertakan' ..., Trader yg sdh
kebelet & ngga kuat mental akhirnya kabur di 5300 sore tadi diakhir sesi..,
kalau anda lihat di 5 menit terakhir 5300 banyak yg exit tapi diisi terus
sama si Om sikit-sikit (2000 lot each) supaya ngga ngagetin kalo diisi 1
sekaligus... ., simple question on my mind.., why would they buy 5300
sore-sore sementara orang lain pada keluar...?? So, yg tadinya mau balik
badan di 5300 ngga jadi dah..., si Om aja beli..., jadi saya bungkus lagi
deh hehehe

JsxTrader

 









  

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT Lag 1-2 Menit

[SbudianaY]

Line internetnya yg bikin lag kaleee, sy pake fastnet bagus tuh.
Kemarin mobile pake Flash ngadat seharian, lg mo nyoba ambil Indosat buat 
cadangan katanya uda ada yg Unlimited 100rb.
Kenapa yah kalo yg msh ada bau2nya PNS tetap aja payah, sedang kalo dikasih 
asing ribut lg tp ngurus kerjaan ga beres2 ada aja gangguannya bikin konsumen 
rugi aja.


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Ini baru pertama kali terjadi di IPOT.

Ada yang ngalamin hal sama?



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[obrolan-bandar] BUMI - Intraday

[JsxTrader]

5650-5750 area resistance yang cukup kuat. kalau hari ini tembus dan
berhasil close diatas itu., harga akan lari lebih kencang.., dengan asumsi
harga minyak stabil. 

 

Sementara terlihat BIS sedang berhenti, untuk 'mempersilahkan' penumpang
yang mau turun di 5550 untuk turun dgn selamat.  the choice is your..,
Goodluck !!

 

JsxTrader

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Capital market.--->kumpulan kapitalis--->The winner is those who can adapted

[edwinkdr]

Sekedar pendapat saja :-)

Harga Naik dan Turun, dalam sebuah KESEIMBANGAN GLOBAL. 
sebenarnya sama SEKALI BUKAN dari DOA :-)

Melainkan BUAH dari TINDAKAN yg sesuai dgn HUKUM ALAM dlm prinsip
SEBAB dan AKIBAT.

yg PASTI DOA akan FAILED, saat kita memohon dengan permohonan BERAT
SEBELAH.ataupun kalo memaksa, Tuhan akan kasih...tapi dengan
SYARAT...(biasanya ada ujian2 pensetaraan yg cukup berat, SABAR sbg
KUNCI).

Pada dasarnya Kita BERDOA agar kita dimampukan untuk MENGUBAH apa yg
BISA KITA UBAH. dan MENERIMA apa yg TDK BISA KITA UBAH. :-)

Terkait dengan BURSA SAHAM jika FEED BACKnya adalah PROFIT.
maka itu terkait dengan REJEKI dan TANGGUNG JAWAB yg dipercayakan
kepada kita masing2.

Entah sebagai penerus BERKAH ataupun memang karena itulah kita ada
disitu. :-)

Destiny somes times is a funny things.

Jadi kalo Pak SB bilang...TUHAN itu EGP-lah kalo nuruti doa2 yg spt
itu :-)

Tapi akan TAKE ACTION saat orang yg SABAR dan SETIA pdNya mengalami
hal yg diluar kemampuan, dengan diatasinya hal tsb walaupun mungkin
dgn cara yg jauh dari NALAR. :-)

Kesimpulan :
Jangan berpikir terlalu jauh, dan menganggap TUHAN tdk PAHAM manusia
itu spt apa.

ada pepatah jawa bilang :
"Jika ingin menguasai dunia besar, kuasailah dunia kecil terlebih
dahulu:-)"

Jika memang berniat untuk memperbaiki keadaan, mulailah dari batu bata
terdekat dari diri anda. :-)

Contoh sederhana.
Misal anda punya uang 200rb. yg mungkin kecil kalo di bursa saham.
Tukarlah uang 200rb tsb dengan 1rb - an = 200 lembar.

Bagi2 untuk 200 pengemis. bukankah itu lebih manfaat untuk membantu.  :-)

Atau bisa juga beli indomie beberapa dus, diplastikin per 5 bungkus.
bagi2 ke tetangga. kalo 1 dus 40 bungkus. berarti per dus ada 8 orang
yg bisa dibantu:-)

Selanjutnya.
Terserah masing2 lah.

Tapi yg pastitdk perlulah kita mencampur adukkan KEADILAH Tuhan
sebagai Yg Maha Pengasih lagi Maha Penyayang. dengan TUNTUTAN dlm DOA
kpd TUHAN yg HASILnya lebih tahu mana yg terbaik untuk kita. :-)

"I Received NOTHING i wanted
AND I Received EVERYTHING i Needed...:-)"

Tks

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> hehehehe5 saya bukan nya mau berdebat dengan subject ini tapi saya
pikir ini realita yang saya lakukan selama ini di pasar.
> 
> sehingga saya jadi berfikir kita semua sebenar nya sadar atau tidak
merupakan opportunis2 yang memanfaat kan penderitaan orang lain
> bayang kan. dalam hati saya berharap komodity naik terus,padahal
kalo komodity naik terus akan banyak negera2 seperti zimbabwe dan
lain2 yang akan mengalami perlambatan ekonomi sehingga inflasi nya
melonjak hingga 2 koma sekian juta persen.bayang kan bagaimna
kehidupan di sanabagai mana rasanya orang yang hidup di negara tsb :(
> 
> dalam negri kita sendiri juga makin banyak saja orang yang mengalami
kesulitan demi kesulitan..karena efek snow ball akibat perlambatan
ekonomi global...
> 
> sedangkan saya pribadi dalam hati sayakarena memang memiliki
posisi di saham2 komodity,setiap hari berdoa dan berharap agar
komodity naik hehehe dan pada saat ini terus terang saya merasa
bahagia sekali karna akhirnya bisa jualan dan mendapatkan keuntungan
yang lumayan besar dari traiding plan yang saya lakukan...ck..ck...ck
kejam juga ya isi doa saya
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Properti & Infrastruktur koq memblleee !!!!!!!

[D Notoprodjo]

Pak DE,

Saat Mining & Agro merah, Properti & Infrastruktur hijau. Apa ini berarti
distribusi properti & infrastruktur sambil akumulasi mining & agro? Dan
sekarang sebaliknya? CMIIW

Salam,
Noto


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT : Mau lebaran...banjir order

[Mo_Cuan]

Gak usah bingung ini BEI.
kalo kata den BEI naek ya naek...
lagian di negeri ini bukan pasar yang nentuin tapi bandar den BEI hehehe.
Finansial, property, udah murah massa mo turun terus...hehehe
trus komoditi lagi naek di dunia..massa kita mau ikutan turun...
jadi semua naek...itulah hebatnya den BEI...bisa bikin kerumunan sendiri.
yang taon ini lom cuan-2 hahaha

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Dear OB, moga2...INDF, ASII, TLKM naik trus. Salam. lagi bingung

minyak naik koq banking & property bisa ikut naik ?

 
 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] OOT : Mau lebaran...banjir order

[sulistyo_winarto]

Dear OB, moga2...INDF, ASII, TLKM naik trus. Salam. lagi bingung
minyak naik koq banking & property bisa ikut naik ?

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[JsxTrader]

Overhead Resistance area 5650-5750 ., probabilita hari ini  tembus kecil,
kecuali ada volume extreme. let see

 

bumi 1 minute.png

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of Prasetyo, Hani
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Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

 

Chart BUMInya pak JT. bakal tembus 5650 euy. sipp dahhh

 

  _  

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On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:23 PM
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Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

 

.. Hari ini trading BUMI masih taraf 'gertak-gertakan'..., Trader yg
sdh
kebelet & ngga kuat mental akhirnya kabur di 5300 sore tadi diakhir sesi..,
kalau anda lihat di 5 menit terakhir 5300 banyak yg exit tapi diisi terus
sama si Om sikit-sikit (2000 lot each) supaya ngga ngagetin kalo diisi 1
sekaligus, simple question on my mind.., why would they buy 5300
sore-sore sementara orang lain pada keluar...?? So, yg tadinya mau balik
badan di 5300 ngga jadi dah..., si Om aja beli..., jadi saya bungkus lagi
deh hehehe

JsxTrader



 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: INKP Jadi Right Issue?

[SbudianaY]

Menurut keterangan Direkturnya blm ada rencana RI makanya naik lg

SB

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Hari ini ditarik lg.
Please ada yg punya info, INKP jadi apa kagak RI?

Nyebelin d emiten2 yang RI

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> INKP mulai rebound. Apakah RI ditunda?
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[obrolan-bandar] Tanya : IPOT

[Lala Tobing]

Mau tanya dong.. margin di IPOT bisa dipakai buat beli saham gorengan ga ? 
terus kayanya kok banyak masalah ya ipot.. ada niat mo pindah ke ipot, krn fee 
nya murah nih. 


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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT Lag 1-2 Menit
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 2:41 AM











SP engga koq Pak



Www... komoditi bikin index ijo gede bo



2008/8/22 Jack Surya <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>:

> semua olt lag pak

> lagi pada panikhehehehe

>

> tau deh...panik jual apa panik beli

>

> salam

> JS


  




 

















  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Saham bumi digadaikan

[kusumawati]

Kisah ini bermula dari laporan PT Ficomindo Buana Registar soal
perubahan komposisi kepemilikan saham� PT Bakrie & Brothers Tbk
di anak perusahaannya, PT Bumi Resources Tbk.

Menurut perusahaan biro administrasi efek itu,� kepemilikan
induk perusahaan grup Bakrie di Bumi berkurang menjadi 6,75% saham pada
4 Agustus-8 Agustus dari sebelumnya 7,44% saham atau 1,44 miliar saham.

Padahal, Bakrie & Brothers pada 11 Juli-17 Juli masih menguasai 3,02
miliar saham atau mewakili 15,55% dari total modal yang disetorkan Bumi
sebanyak 19,4 miliar saham.

Dari laporan itu diketahui bahwa PT Bank Danamon Tbk menjadi pemegang
saham baru, yaitu sebanyak 7,99% atau 1,55 miliar saham Bumi.

�Sampai di sini, tak ada yang perlu dipersoalkan. Karena dari
penjelasan manajemen Bakrie & Brothers, saham itu berpindah tangan
karena sebuah proses repo (repurchase agreement).

Per definisi, repo adalah transaksi jual beli efek dengan janji membeli
kembali pada waktu dan harga yang telah ditetapkan. Repo terjadi ketika
pemilik menggadaikan sahamnya dengan mendapatkan sejumlah dana tertentu.

Begitulah yang terjadi dengan saham Bumi. Menurut pengakuan Direktur
Keuangan Bakrie & Brothers Yuanita Rohali,� kendati terjadi
perpindahan tangan, saham Bumi tidak beralih kepemilikan. Perseroan itu
tetap memiliki 35% saham Bumi Resources.

Bakrie memiliki 35% saham emiten tambang batu bara itu setelah membeli
sahamnya senilai Rp36,89 triliun dengan menggunakan hasil rights issue
awal tahun ini.�

Kalau saja laporan biro administrasi efek itu benar, dengan asumsi
kepemilikan awal 35%, berarti Bakrie kemungkinan besar menggadaikan
28,25% atau 5,48 miliar saham Bumi ke beberapa bank asing untuk
memperoleh pinjaman US$1,4 miliar atau setara dengan Rp12,74 triliun.

Dari proses repo inilah, surat kabar ini berusaha menyeruak kabut yang
menyelimuti transaksi di kelompok usaha itu.

Pernyataan resmi manajemen Bakrie mengungkapkan bahwa perseroan
menggadaikan 7,99% saham Bumi untuk mendapatkan pinjaman US$150 juta
dari JP Morgan Chase Bank NA dan US$150 juta dari ICICI Bank Ltd atau
senilai total Rp2,73 triliun.

Dalam repo itu, Bank Danamon hanya bertindak sebagai kustodian atas
7,99% saham itu. Lalu, bagaimana dengan urusan repo dari porsi saham
Bumi yang lain? Bukankah kepemilikan Bakrie atas saham Bumi tinggal
6,75%? Ke mana 20,26% saham Bumi lain digadaikan? Untuk pinjaman berapa
banyak dan siapakah kreditornya? Lalu, institusi keuangan mana yang
menjadi kustodiannya?

Sebenarnya, repo adalah hal lumrah. Banyak emiten di lantai bursa
melakukan itu. Namun, menggadaikan saham dengan jumlah sebesar itu
menjadi tidak biasa. Di sinilah pertanyaan terhadap Bakrie & Brothers
dan Bumi Resources layak diajukan. Terbukakah mereka-sebagai perusahaan
publik-memberikan informasi soal repo itu kepada investornya? Atau dari
perspektif Bakrie dan Bumi, wajibkah keduanya mengumumkan transaksi repo
tersebut?

Hanya Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal-Lembaga Keuangan dan manajemen Bursa
Efek Indonesia (BEI)� yang bisa menjawab pertanyaan tersebut.
Kalau Bapepam-LK dan BEI mau serius, mereka� tinggal menguji
transaksi itu dengan peraturan Nomor IX.E.2 tentang Transaksi Material
dan Perubahan Kegiatan Usaha Utama.

Menurut ketentuan itu, transaksi material adalah setiap pembelian,
penjualan atau penyertaan saham, dan/atau pembelian, penjualan,
pengalihan, tukar-menukar aktiva atau segmen usaha, yang nilainya sama
atau lebih besar dari salah satu hal berikut; pertama�
10%� dari pendapatan� perusahaan; atau kedua,�
20% dari ekuitas.

Kalau syarat itu terpenuhi, maka� transaksi repo tersebut harus
mendapat persetujuan dari rapat umum pemegang saham. Selain itu, Bakrie
& Brothers harus menunjuk pihak independen untuk memberikan penilaian
atas kelayakan transaksi dan mengumumkan rencana� transaksi itu.

Benarkah Bakrie melanggar ketentuan itu? Mari kita tagih janji otoritas
pasar modal untuk memeriksa transaksi repo tersebut.� Ingat,
janji adalah utang.

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[obrolan-bandar] Capital market.--->kumpulan kapitalis--->The winner is those who can adapted with the market...but......

[Meizal]

hehehehe5 saya bukan nya mau berdebat dengan subject ini tapi saya pikir ini 
realita yang saya lakukan selama ini di pasar.

sehingga saya jadi berfikir kita semua sebenar nya sadar atau tidak merupakan 
opportunis2 yang memanfaat kan penderitaan orang lain
bayang kan. dalam hati saya berharap komodity naik terus,padahal kalo 
komodity naik terus akan banyak negera2 seperti zimbabwe dan lain2 yang akan 
mengalami perlambatan ekonomi sehingga inflasi nya melonjak hingga 2 koma 
sekian juta persen.bayang kan bagaimna kehidupan di sanabagai mana 
rasanya orang yang hidup di negara tsb :(

dalam negri kita sendiri juga makin banyak saja orang yang mengalami kesulitan 
demi kesulitan..karena efek snow ball akibat perlambatan ekonomi 
global...

sedangkan saya pribadi dalam hati sayakarena memang memiliki posisi di 
saham2 komodity,setiap hari berdoa dan berharap agar komodity naik hehehe dan 
pada saat ini terus terang saya merasa bahagia sekali karna akhirnya bisa 
jualan dan mendapatkan keuntungan yang lumayan besar dari traiding plan yang 
saya lakukan...ck..ck...ck kejam juga ya isi doa saya

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI AGAIN

[Hendarmin Jong]

LABA BERSIH BUMI SEMESTER 1 TURUN 58% ATAU $15,67 / SAHAM.JADI $301,79 JUTA 
DIBANDINGKAN THN SEBELUMNYA $729,29 JUTA.



  

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[Prasetyo, Hani]

Chart BUMInya pak JT... bakal tembus 5650 euy... sipp dahhh

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:23 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran
mbah

 

* Hari ini trading BUMI masih taraf
'gertak-gertakan'..., Trader yg sdh
kebelet & ngga kuat mental akhirnya kabur di 5300 sore tadi diakhir
sesi..,
kalau anda lihat di 5 menit terakhir 5300 banyak yg exit tapi diisi
terus
sama si Om sikit-sikit (2000 lot each) supaya ngga ngagetin kalo diisi
1
sekaligus, simple question on my mind.., why would they buy 5300
sore-sore sementara orang lain pada keluar...?? So, yg tadinya mau balik
badan di 5300 ngga jadi dah..., si Om aja beli..., jadi saya bungkus
lagi
deh hehehe

JsxTrader





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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT Lag 1-2 Menit

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Maaf, HOTS itu paling parah Pak di sisi lag... lag nya gak terhingga,
krn gak bisa login =))
IPOT udah normal lagi koq menit ke 7.
Thanks

2008/8/22 tora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> pake HOTS, lag tidak lebih dari 10 second (as usual)
> koneksi Indosat

[obrolan-bandar] Re: MyLRI ELTY MACD Optimalisasi

[Hans]

ELTY cukup menarik. berikut gambar saya untuk ELTY
Mencoba resistance di 360 bila di tembus dengan volume memadai akan lanjut.
Perlu break trend turun.

thx
Hans


 
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  Dear All

  berikut gambar ELTY

  Indikator MACD yang telah di optimalisasi priodenya menunjukan persiapan 
sebuah golden cross. Layak di cermati.
  Trend harga ELTY masih turun disisi lain  Indikator MACD  membentuk pola 
Symmetrical Triangles. indikasi positif.

  terima kasih
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT Lag 1-2 Menit

[tora]

pake HOTS, lag tidak lebih dari 10 second (as usual)
koneksi Indosat

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  From: abdulrahim abdulrahim 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 9:41 AM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT Lag 1-2 Menit


  SP engga koq Pak

  Www... komoditi bikin index ijo gede bo

  2008/8/22 Jack Surya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
  > semua olt lag pak
  > lagi pada panikhehehehe
  >
  > tau deh...panik jual apa panik beli
  >
  > salam
  > JS


   

[obrolan-bandar] Re: INKP Jadi Right Issue?

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Hari ini ditarik lg.
Please ada yg punya info, INKP jadi apa kagak RI?

Nyebelin d emiten2 yang RI

2008/8/21 abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> INKP mulai rebound. Apakah RI ditunda?
>

[obrolan-bandar] Yg Mo ODT hr ini bingung

[Yanuar Mustofa]

niatnya mau ODT hari ini..buat cover yg nyangkut di atas.
ga taunya si boss naek-innya pd maksimal. akhirnya trader Bingung dech...

gw berdoa semoga BUMI back to 7000 and aali to 25000i wish...i wishi 
wish..

Boss Untung...jgn pelit2 kasih orang cuan lahhh...udah mo lebaran nihhh ( apa 
hubungannya yaa..) 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] TA: Antara MACD, cross dan triangle

[JsxTrader]

Will get back to you Sir.., lagi seru nonton bumi nih...hehe

 

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On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
Sent: 22 Agustus 2008 9:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TA: Antara MACD, cross dan triangle

 

Mo nanya aja,

Selama ini saya selalu nganggap:

MACD dead cross di area positif = bear trap (tech correction), kecuali
disinyalir MACD bikin desc. triangle
MACD golden cross di area negatif = bull trap (tech rebound), kecuali
disinyalir MACD bikin asc. triangle

Apakah hal diatas benar?

Regards,
DE

Pada 22 Agustus 2008 08:56, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

Buset.., tuh volumenya gede amat., candle cakep, macd keren..., hmmm..
mudah-mudahan ngga kebablasan lah, ngga bagus juga..

 

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT Lag 1-2 Menit

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

SP engga koq Pak

Www... komoditi bikin index ijo gede bo

2008/8/22 Jack Surya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> semua olt lag pak
> lagi pada panikhehehehe
>
> tau deh...panik jual apa panik beli
>
> salam
> JS

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IPOT Lag 1-2 Menit

[Jack Surya]

semua olt lag pak
lagi pada panikhehehehe

tau deh...panik jual apa panik beli

salam
JS

2008/8/22 abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   Ini baru pertama kali terjadi di IPOT.
>
> Ada yang ngalamin hal sama?
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] IPOT Lag 1-2 Menit

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Ini baru pertama kali terjadi di IPOT.

Ada yang ngalamin hal sama?

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[t_bumi]

SIP : TBUMI



Berdoa saja ke YMK utk pemulihan ekonomi global.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ECf7nDx28

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TA: Antara MACD, cross dan triangle

[conx_2003]

wah ilmu pak DE harus dicatat nih baik2... hehehehe


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Mo nanya aja,
> 
> Selama ini saya selalu nganggap:
> 
> MACD dead cross di area positif = bear trap (tech correction), kecuali
> disinyalir MACD bikin desc. triangle
> MACD golden cross di area negatif = bull trap (tech rebound), kecuali
> disinyalir MACD bikin asc. triangle
> 
> Apakah hal diatas benar?
> 
> Regards,
> DE
> 
> Pada 22 Agustus 2008 08:56, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> 
> >Buset.., tuh volumenya gede amat…, candle cakep, macd keren…..,
hmmm..
> > mudah-mudahan ngga kebablasan lah, ngga bagus juga….
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[conx_2003]

2 2 nya benar

pertama 120 US / barrel

lalu pas minggu lalu liat oil agi bearish super duper, mungkin
pemerintah ada yg baca OB kali terpengaruh.

jadi buka deh 100 US / barrel



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Koreksi, kalau ngga salah APBN kita oil prediction di 120 USD/barrel
> 
> Corrrect me if iam wrong!
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Bambang Tjiu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:08:09 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK
TERBENTUNG LAGI
> 
> 
> Yg paling Hebat
> 
> Pemerintah kita
> 
> Rencananya dalam  APBN  USD 100 saja
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Bambang
> 
> 2008/8/21 conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >   sebenernya saya juga turut sedih kalau minyak naik terus, rakyat
makin
> > susah, tapi skarang market analoginya klo minyak naek, bumi ikut naek
> > sih.. jadi saya berharap minyak naik sampe 125 aja ga usa banyak2,
> > coal naeknya banyak tapi hehehe
> >
> > 119.88 seperti kata mbah TIDAK PAKAI REM
> >
> > REM Nya BLONG!! hati2 nabrak
> >
> > relax sajalah tidur nyenyak dulu daripada ntar jem 12, oil tiba2 drop
> > ga jadi tidur deh hahahhaa
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
,
> > hidayat.ardiansyah
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > btw minyak dah 119 hampir tembus 120 ya ini harus senang
atau ikut
> > > berduka =)
> > >
> > >
> > > Semoga ga sia sia ikut hajar INCO ma BUMI kemarin
> > >
> > >
> > > Happy cuan
> > >
> > >
> > > -HA-
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/21/08, conx_2003  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kemaren pada posting SUPER DUPER BEARISH
> > > >
> > > > skarang ga ada yg posting target ketinggian
> > > >
> > > > saya sekarang mau BALAS DENDAM
> > > >
> > > > BUMI 20.000
> > > >
> > > > ANTM 10.000 aja yeh
> > > >
> > > > MINYAK 250
> > > >
> > > > GOLD 1400
> > > >
> > > > NICKEL 4
> > > >
> > > > INCO 20.000
> > > >
> > > > IHSG 3000
> > > >
> > > > ROAA
> > > >
> > > > NB : Target diatas hanya sebagai gurauan ( balas dendam ),
mohon untuk
> > > > tidak digunakan sebagai acuan jual / beli hehehehehe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] TA: Antara MACD, cross dan triangle

[Dean Earwicker]

Mo nanya aja,

Selama ini saya selalu nganggap:

MACD dead cross di area positif = bear trap (tech correction), kecuali
disinyalir MACD bikin desc. triangle
MACD golden cross di area negatif = bull trap (tech rebound), kecuali
disinyalir MACD bikin asc. triangle

Apakah hal diatas benar?

Regards,
DE

Pada 22 Agustus 2008 08:56, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>Buset.., tuh volumenya gede amat…, candle cakep, macd keren….., hmmm..
> mudah-mudahan ngga kebablasan lah, ngga bagus juga….
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[riil_investor]

Koreksi, kalau ngga salah APBN kita oil prediction di 120 USD/barrel

Corrrect me if iam wrong!
Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry�

-Original Message-
From: "Bambang Tjiu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:08:09 
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI


Yg paling Hebat

Pemerintah kita

Rencananya dalam  APBN  USD 100 saja

Rgds

Bambang

2008/8/21 conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   sebenernya saya juga turut sedih kalau minyak naik terus, rakyat makin
> susah, tapi skarang market analoginya klo minyak naek, bumi ikut naek
> sih.. jadi saya berharap minyak naik sampe 125 aja ga usa banyak2,
> coal naeknya banyak tapi hehehe
>
> 119.88 seperti kata mbah TIDAK PAKAI REM
>
> REM Nya BLONG!! hati2 nabrak
>
> relax sajalah tidur nyenyak dulu daripada ntar jem 12, oil tiba2 drop
> ga jadi tidur deh hahahhaa
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> hidayat.ardiansyah
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > btw minyak dah 119 hampir tembus 120 ya ini harus senang atau ikut
> > berduka =)
> >
> >
> > Semoga ga sia sia ikut hajar INCO ma BUMI kemarin
> >
> >
> > Happy cuan
> >
> >
> > -HA-
> >
> >
> > On 8/21/08, conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Kemaren pada posting SUPER DUPER BEARISH
> > >
> > > skarang ga ada yg posting target ketinggian
> > >
> > > saya sekarang mau BALAS DENDAM
> > >
> > > BUMI 20.000
> > >
> > > ANTM 10.000 aja yeh
> > >
> > > MINYAK 250
> > >
> > > GOLD 1400
> > >
> > > NICKEL 4
> > >
> > > INCO 20.000
> > >
> > > IHSG 3000
> > >
> > > ROAA
> > >
> > > NB : Target diatas hanya sebagai gurauan ( balas dendam ), mohon untuk
> > > tidak digunakan sebagai acuan jual / beli hehehehehe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> 
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oil rebound to $155

[JsxTrader]

Buset.., tuh volumenya gede amat., candle cakep, macd keren..., hmmm..
mudah-mudahan ngga kebablasan lah, ngga bagus juga..

 

JsxTrader

 

crude oil 220808.png

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of JsxTrader
Sent: 18 Agustus 2008 12:00
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oil rebound to $155

 

Sebenernya sih saya ngga seneng juga kalo oil mahal, tapi kalo kata Mr.
Fibo, short term cepek jigo sih kena lah..

 

JsxTrader

 

(data s/d hari Jumat lalu)

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of jos_martino
Sent: 18 Agustus 2008 11:48
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Oil rebound to $155

 

Mbah ngga salah ketik, maksudnya itu harga tahun 2020 

nanti...ha..ha..ha.

 

Becanda ...Mbah. Saya dukung koq sekarang OIL kalo bisa sampe $120 

biar pada REBOUND dulu deh.

 

rgs,

JM

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:

> 

> Oil rebound to $155

> 

> 

> Kok pada diem

> 

> Tebakan EL bahwa para trader udah pada engga punya barang

> sepertinya benar

> 

 

 

<>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: [Deutsche Bank] Indonesia Morning Shots -> Jos

[jos_martino]

Tenang saja justru memang bagus oil rebound dulu sebentar karena 
kemaren turun terlalu cepat. Nanti setelah itu banking rebound juga.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Maneh Lobateing 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Pak Jos, 
> oil rebound lumayan gede. gimana nasib banking ? belum pulih udah di-
KO lagi
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Win a MacBook Air or iPod touch with Yahoo!7. 
http://au.docs..yahoo.com/homepageset
>

[obrolan-bandar] Banking and Financials News

[JsxTrader]

Financial Services
Page Editor: Clive Frampton, Online Desk, +1 416 941 8127
Provided by: Reuters News
Updated: 22 Agustus 2008 4:52:31 (GMT+07:00)

Three big banks settle with NY state over ARS
NEW YORK, Aug 21 (Reuters) - New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo on Thursday 
said Merrill Lynch & Co Inc, Deutsche Bank and Goldman Sachs have agreed to 
settlements regarding their auction rate security sales practices.
Story ID: nN21292586

Fannie, Freddie debt gains, deep share dive abates
NEW YORK, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Investors' growing belief in the likelihood of a 
federal bailout of home-funding giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac triggered a 
rally in the debt prices of the two companies on Thursday while a steep fall in 
their shares prices abated.
Story ID: nN21474178

Lehman straits may spur hostile takeover-analyst
NEW YORK, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Lehman Brothers failed to sell a large stake to 
Asian investors, a report said, and such failures may open the door to a 
hostile takeover of the investment bank, an analyst wrote.
Story ID: nLL720462

Citi cuts outlook on Lehman, Morgan Stanley, Goldman
Aug 21 (Reuters) - Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc, Goldman Sachs Group Inc and 
Morgan Stanley may incur further writedowns, mainly on their mortgage assets, 
said an analyst at Citigroup, who cut his third-quarter outlook for the U.S. 
investment banks.
Story ID: nBNG271027

Markets await Bernanke as central bankers gather
JACKSON HOLE, Wyo., Aug 21 (Reuters) - Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke 
tackles financial stability in a key speech on Friday but economists doubt he 
will provide solid clues about future policy action to calm the credit crunch.
Story ID: nN21503434

Massachusetts settles with Merrill on ARS matter
BOSTON, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Massachusetts' top securities regulator said on 
Thursday that it settled with Merrill Lynch & Co Inc on auction-rate 
securities, and the brokerage will soon begin buying back some of the illiquid 
debt instruments.
Story ID: nN21520367

China's ICBC Q2 jumps; world's top-earning bank
HONG KONG/BEIJING, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Industrial & Commercial Bank of China Ltd 
(ICBC), the world's biggest bank by market value, posted a 41 percent rise in 
second-quarter profit, buoyed by widening interest margins and fee income 
growth.
Story ID: nHKG266555

Thornburg Mortgage rises, rescue appears on track
NEW YORK, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Thornburg Mortgage Inc appears on track to 
complete an exchange offer designed to keep it out of bankruptcy, causing the 
shares of the "jumbo" home loan provider to rise as much as 54 percent on 
Thursday.
Story ID: nN21482920

US OKs Metlife buy of residential mortgage assets
WASHINGTON, Aug 21 (Reuters) - U.S. antitrust authorities have given approval 
for a unit of insurer MetLife Inc to acquire a residential mortgage business 
from First Tennessee Bank N.A., the Federal Trade Commission said on Thursday.
Story ID: nN21426079

Lone Star to buy German subprime casualty IKB
FRANKFURT, Aug 21 (Reuters) - U.S. private equity investor Lone Star is buying 
the rump of lender IKB, Germany's most prominent casualty of the subprime 
crisis.
Story ID: nLL63

Japan's Mizuho to invest in U.S. Evercore
TOKYO, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Mizuho Financial Group, Japan's second-largest bank 
by assets, said on Thursday it would invest $120 million in U.S. merger 
advisory firm Evercore Partners, marking the latest push by a Japanese 
financial company into the world's largest economy.
Story ID: nT289998

Bankers struggle with B&B rump as shares languish
LONDON, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Top British banks that agreed to provide a safety 
net in Bradford & Bingley's cash call could end up with a stake of almost 20 
percent, as the lender's shares languish and the Friday deadline for 
underwriters nears.
Story ID: nLL664310

Copyright © 2008 Reuters News

[obrolan-bandar] Commodities and Energy News

[JsxTrader]

Commodities and Energy
Page Editor: Walter Bagley, New Yrok newsdesk646 223 6219
Provided by: Reuters News
Updated: 22 Agustus 2008 4:13:02 (GMT+07:00)

Oil up 5 pct on global tensions, soft dollar
NEW YORK, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Oil prices rose nearly 5  percent on Thursday, the 
biggest percentage gain in more than  two months, driven by rising tensions 
between the United States  and energy behemoth Russia. Prices have rebounded 
more than $9 from their lows this week, which put a dramatic end to a slide of 
more than $20 since mid-July, leaving analysts mixed over whether oil's next 
big  move would be up or down.
Story ID: nSP213151

Dollar selloff, Russia tension reinflate commodities markets
NEW YORK, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Reports of the death of the  commodity boom may be 
premature. Investors sold dollars and swarmed back into precious  metals, 
energy and agriculture futures on Thursday, reminded  that the macroeconomic 
and geopolitical arguments for buying  commodities had not been weakened by the 
market correction in recent weeks, but prices had.
Story ID: nN21508504

Gold ends near 10-day high as markets change tack
LONDON, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Gold prices hit a 10-day high on Thursday, lifted by 
investor buying as oil prices rose, the dollar slipped, equities fell and the 
U.S. Mint suspended American Eagle bullion coin sales, citing soaring demand.
Story ID: nLL699077

Weak dollar, strong oil boost industrial metals
LONDON, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Industrial metals jumped to multi-week highs on 
Thursday, with copper rallying 5 percent to its highest in three weeks, as a  
lower dollar and rising oil spurred buying across the metals complex. Potential 
supply disruptions and expectations of output cuts pushed zinc  and tin to 
3-week highs and nickel near a 6-week high.
Story ID: nLL1235

China became net food importer in 1st half
GENEVA, Aug 21 (Reuters) - China became a net food importer in cash terms in 
the first half of this year, as soaring food prices ate into its traditional 
surplus in agricultural goods. The swing into deficit largely reflects the 
surge in prices of commodity staples, such as grain and soybeans.
Story ID: nLL704043

U.S. corn surges as grains rally on dollar, oil
CHICAGO, Aug 21 (Reuters) - U.S. corn prices rose 4 percent on Thursday, 
surging by the 30-cent daily limit at their peak, in a broad rally in grain 
markets sparked by a surge in oil and dry weather clouding crop prospects in 
the United States. Futures for the primary U.S. export commodities of corn, 
wheat and soy also drew support from declines in the dollar.
Story ID: nT32818

Petrobras says set to miss 2008 production goal
RIO DE JANEIRO, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Brazilian oil giant Petrobras said on 
Thursday it will likely fall short of its production goal for the fourth 
straight year, after several fields failed to meet expectations. The firm's 
average production was seen at 1.9 million barrels per day, below its target of 
1.95 million, and little changed from its 2007 production of 1.918 million, 
according to Finance Director Almir Barbassa.
Story ID: nN2144684

Mexico oil output, exports fall again
MEXICO CITY, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Mexico's crude oil exports and output fell in 
July from the previous month as production at the main oil field of Cantarell 
continued to wane, state-owned energy monopoly Pemex said on Thursday. Pemex 
said its July crude oil production was 2.782 million barrels per day, versus 
2.839 million bpd in June.
Story ID: nN21522436

Higher prices dent exports of U.S. wheat, corn, soy
CHICAGO, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Rallies in futures prices hurt U.S. export sales of 
wheat, corn and soybeans last week, and prices have continued to climb this 
week on weather concerns and rising crude oil prices, traders said. U.S. wheat 
export sales totaled 916,500 tonnes -- a 10-month high, due mainly to Iran 
buying 786,900 tonnes.
Story ID: nN21456451

US Mint suspends red-hot Eagle gold coins 
NEW YORK, Aug 21 (Reuters) - A shortage of American Eagle gold coins following 
a recent sharp retreat in bullion prices has forced the U.S. Mint to suspend 
sales of the popular coins  temporarily. Rand LeShay, senior vice president of 
A-Mark Precious Metals, an authorized purchaser for the U.S. Mint, confirmed 
that the Mint told coin dealers it was halting all sales of American Eagles, a 
novel item among collectors and investors.
Story ID: nN21515012

Copyright © 2008 Reuters News

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Properti & Infrastruktur koq memblleee !!!!!!!!

[hendi_lie]

ohhh gitu... jadi kalo gitu bukan masalah ada issue fundamental 
terkait emiten property & infrastruktur, cuma dana di alihkan ke CPO 
dulu.. moga2 spt itu... dan kita hanya bisa menanti datangnya 
giliran.

regards,

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "C‡st♥™" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Doeitnya lagi dipake ke bumi and CPO dulu
> Sabar tunggu giliran yach!
> 
> Sent From My buss|Berry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:11:49 
> To: OB
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Properti & Infrastruktur koq 
memblleee 
> 
> 
> 
> Gantian bos, teori sudut merah vs sudut biru...
> 
> 
> 
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "hendi_lie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:06:57 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Properti & Infrastruktur koq 
memblleee 
> 
> 
> Mau minta info kenapa properti & infrasruktur (CTRA , SMRA , JSMR) 
> pada merah semua ?
>

[obrolan-bandar] Hajar kanan komoditas!!!! (Commodities Rally, Heading for Biggest Weekly Jump Since 1975)

[Setyo Budiantoro]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJhZSAGRnfjk&refer=home

Commodities Rally, Heading for Biggest Weekly Jump Since 1975

By Millie Munshi


 Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Commodities headed for their biggest weekly gain in 33 
years as oil rose for a third day and a weakening dollar revived demand for raw 
materials as alternative assets.

The Reuters/Jefferies CRB Index of 19 commodities soared 3.7 percent to 405.92 
in New York. A settlement tomorrow at that level would mark a 6.2 percent gain 
for the week, the most since July 1975. The dollar dropped the most against the 
euro since June today and oil jumped more than $5 a barrel.

The rebound in the CRB and a resumption of the dollar's decline may stall a 
rout in commodities that has sent the index down 14 percent from a record on 
July 3. Raw materials priced mostly in dollars often move in the opposite 
direction of the U.S. currency.

``The bounce in the dollar had caused people to sell commodities aggressively, 
and a lot of that selling became overdone,'' said Chip Hanlon, who helps manage 
$1.5 billion at Delta Global Advisors in Huntington Beach, California. ``This 
move may tell us that those downtrends are over. Commodities could continue to 
rally from here.''

Every commodity on the CRB except hog futures moved higher today. Nickel jumped 
8 percent, cocoa rose 6.8 percent and silver rallied 5.2 percent. Oil and gold 
had their biggest one- day advances since June. Platinum jumped 6.6 percent, 
the most since September 2001.

Chinese Demand

Commodities also gained today on speculation demand will increase from China as 
the country resumes work at factories and infrastructure projects that were 
shut or slowed during the Olympics, which end Aug. 24.

``China's demand is very important to the commodity markets,'' Hanlon said. 
``Now that they're ready to start bringing back factories that had been idled, 
I wouldn't be surprised to see demand start to pick up again there. Their 
long-term outlook for growth and development hasn't changed.''

The CRB has more than doubled since 2001 as demand surged in China, the world's 
fastest-growing major economy. Mining and oil companies, farmers and other 
commodity producers have struggled to keep up with rising consumption as harsh 
weather and labor unrest disrupted supplies.

``Until either a lot of supply comes on stream or the economy collapses, the 
bull market will continue,'' said investor Jim Rogers, who in April 2006 
correctly predicted oil would reach $100 a barrel and gold $1,100 an ounce.

Top Gainers

Today's gains in the CRB were led by nickel futures that rose to their highest 
price since July 11.

Cocoa rose the most since November 2004 in New York. The International Cocoa 
Organization said a global deficit will be twice as large as previously 
expected, with output trailing demand by 88,000 metric tons in the year through 
September, up from an earlier forecast of 41,000 tons.

``That news, along with dollar weakness, powered strong early-morning gains,'' 
Dan Vaught, an analyst for Wachovia Securities LLC in St. Louis, said today in 
a report.

The UBS-Bloomberg Constant Maturity Commodity Index rose 4 percent to 1,509.546 
at 4:45 p.m. A settlement at that price tomorrow would mark a 6.9 percent gain 
this week, the most since the data starts in 1997.

To contact the reporter on this story: Millie Munshi in New York at [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 


  

[obrolan-bandar] Fwd: Re: Minyak mungkin coba ke 125-130

[kspm_rheza]

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "kspm_rheza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

yess!! yuhu.. tmbus 120..next Short term ke 125-127 lah..hehhe..
(..dow smoga minus dalem tar malem..)
indikator ekonomi mnecewakan smua..

Setelah Ketik PRIMBON kata Mbah Roso
Pantangannya Saham-saham finance dan Infra..hehe

yg udah dpt gain lmyn bsk boleh lepas dlu..coz biasanya stelah rally 3
hari hr ke 4nya koreksi dlu..




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Irwan Ariston Napitupulu"
 wrote:
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ferry Wachjudi 
> wrote:
> >
> > kira2 hari ini tembus gak 120?
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Harusnya sih tidak ya. Bisa tutup di atas 117 saja
> sudah bagus untuk minyak. Tapi ntahlah, di dunia
> minyak khan juga ada bandarnya. Susah menebak
> maunya bandar.
> 
> Suka2nya mereka saja. Makanya saya hanya kasih
> angka2 tutup di bawah 110 , tutup di atas 117,
> tutup di atas 122, tutup di atas 134.
> 
> jabat erat,
> Irwan Ariston Napitupulu
>

--- End forwarded message ---

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[Bambang Tjiu]

Yg paling Hebat

Pemerintah kita

Rencananya dalam  APBN  USD 100 saja

Rgds

Bambang

2008/8/21 conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   sebenernya saya juga turut sedih kalau minyak naik terus, rakyat makin
> susah, tapi skarang market analoginya klo minyak naek, bumi ikut naek
> sih.. jadi saya berharap minyak naik sampe 125 aja ga usa banyak2,
> coal naeknya banyak tapi hehehe
>
> 119.88 seperti kata mbah TIDAK PAKAI REM
>
> REM Nya BLONG!! hati2 nabrak
>
> relax sajalah tidur nyenyak dulu daripada ntar jem 12, oil tiba2 drop
> ga jadi tidur deh hahahhaa
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> hidayat.ardiansyah
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > btw minyak dah 119 hampir tembus 120 ya ini harus senang atau ikut
> > berduka =)
> >
> >
> > Semoga ga sia sia ikut hajar INCO ma BUMI kemarin
> >
> >
> > Happy cuan
> >
> >
> > -HA-
> >
> >
> > On 8/21/08, conx_2003 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Kemaren pada posting SUPER DUPER BEARISH
> > >
> > > skarang ga ada yg posting target ketinggian
> > >
> > > saya sekarang mau BALAS DENDAM
> > >
> > > BUMI 20.000
> > >
> > > ANTM 10.000 aja yeh
> > >
> > > MINYAK 250
> > >
> > > GOLD 1400
> > >
> > > NICKEL 4
> > >
> > > INCO 20.000
> > >
> > > IHSG 3000
> > >
> > > ROAA
> > >
> > > NB : Target diatas hanya sebagai gurauan ( balas dendam ), mohon untuk
> > > tidak digunakan sebagai acuan jual / beli hehehehehe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Goldman panik ?

[Maneh Lobateing]

Goldman Sachs salah satu biggest player di futures oil. Masih banyak posisi yg 
open dan akan jatuh tempo hingga akhir tahun . Jadi masuk akal jika mereka 
tiba2 ngeluarin riset oil berpotensi up 29% lg ketika rilis data inventori oil 
di US menunjukkan kenaikan stok. Terlebih berita konflik US-Rusia mulai 
dgembor2kan di seluruh channel berita ekonomi meski potensi clash terbuka 
antara keduanya kecil sekali. Tanya kenapa ?


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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[hidayat . ardiansyah]

yang penting NIckel ijo tua. =)


Coal gada disitu pak AA. itu untuk basemetal



-HA-

On 8/21/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Maap maap nih pak Vic. Sekalian itu simbol2 singkatannya apa si?
> Apa AA itu, gw? :D
> Coal yang mana?
>
> 2008/8/21 Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> > CA 3M78307850
> > +325
> > AH 3M28452855
> > +87
> > PB 3M19001925
> > +142.5
> > ZS 3M18501870
> > +110
> > SN 3M2165021950
> > +1300
> > NI 3M2130021500
> > +1475
> > AA 3M25052525
> > +55
> > NA 3M25702590
> > +80
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [Deutsche Bank] Indonesia Morning Shots -> Jos

[Maneh Lobateing]

Pak Jos, 
oil rebound lumayan gede. gimana nasib banking ? belum pulih udah di-KO lagi




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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[SbudianaY]

Kalo ga butuh kita lalu utk apa kita diciptakan dong???
Pasti ada kebutuhannya cuma kita ga tau utk apa.


Sent from my BlackBerry � wireless device


-Original Message-
From: vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:49:31 
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar 
hiburan)


buat apa???  dia gak butuh kita  tapi kita yg butuh dia :P

Pada 21 Agustus 2008 23:25, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>   Mang gak boleh kasian sama Tuhan, Vid?
> :P
>
> 2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
>
> > Sama Tuhan kasian?? emang Tuhan itu kenapa koq dikasihani??
>  
>



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[obrolan-bandar] Commodities: correction, not collaps

[simon bolenang]

Commodities: Correction, not collaps


Overview

Commodity prices are likely to suffer somewhat
from a slowdown in economic growth
this year, but we see the long-term upward
trend as still intact.
We expect crude oil prices to stabilize above
USD 100 before recovering next year.

Top investment idea
u BUY Gold with a target of USD 950.

Commodity prices are suffering a correction
During July and early August, the commodity price rally
reversed, turning into a sharp correction. As a result, the
major commodity indexes declined considerably. We have
been concerned for quite some time that the commodity
rally was unsustainable, given the fact that the world economy
is slowing and monetary conditions are turning less
friendly. Over the next few months, we think that commodity
prices will suffer somewhat from the weaker economic
growth prospects, which translate into lower demand for
raw materials. However, in our view, the long-term upward
trend is still intact, as demand for commodities, especially
from emerging markets, should remain healthy, and supply
struggles to keep pace with demand. As we move into 2009,
the world economy is likely to recover, given fading inflationary
pressures, which should support commodity prices next
year. As a result, we think that yearly commodity returns
should remain positive, but turn out significantly lower than
we have seen in the previous months (see Figure 1). An
investor in the Dow J ones AIG Commodity Index should
expect the index to deliver a return of 7%–9% in the coming
12 months.

Oil price likely to remain above USD 100

Over the recent weeks, oil prices have dropped from more
than USD 140 to below USD 120. The main reason behind
the price decline is falling demand in developed countries,
particularly in the USA, but recently also in E urope. That
helped to shake the oil market balance to a point where
prices started to react. However, the supply problems that
were an important factor in the previous rally have not disappeared,
and thus we expect prices to climb higher over the
longer term. Once the global economy stabilizes, oil prices
should find a bottom as well. We even see the potential for
renewed price increases in 2009. A similar scenario holds
true for agriculture. Favorable weather has caused a price
correction recently, but overall, the market remains very
tight. Precious metals prices suffered quite strongly from
the sharp appreciation of the US dollar against the euro.
However, we think that prices offer good value at these
low levels. The financial crisis is far from over, and given
the economic slowdown, there is still plenty of demand for
safe-haven assets such as gold. We expect gold prices to
increase above USD 900 again in the months ahead. Nevertheless,
over the very short term, investors have to be
aware that, from a technical point of view, gold prices could
fall somewhat further before recovering afterwards. Base
metal prices should be well supported by supply side problems.
In our view, the recent weakness is also attributable to
seasonal effects. However, given the economic slowdown,
we think that upward potential is also likely to be capped.

Figure 1
Commodity returns have peaked
Annual commodity returns peaked in June and are now
declining. We expect them to remain positive but go
down to as low as 7%–9%.




  

[obrolan-bandar] Indonesia's Timah sees weaker 2008 tin output

[simon bolenang]

Indonesia's
Timah sees weaker 2008 tin output



Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:13am EDT

 

PANGKALPINANG,
Indonesia,, Aug 21 (Reuters) - Indonesia's PT Timah TINS.JK, the world's
biggest integrated tin miner, may not be able to produce 50,000 tonnes of tin
this year as dry weather hampered operations, the firm's president director
told Reuters on Thursday.

Output at Timah, which produced 58,086 tonnes of
tin-in-concentrate in 2007, may also be hit by the upcoming Muslim fasting
month in September, Wachid Usman added.

(Reporting by Fitri Wulandari and Ed Davies) 


  

[obrolan-bandar] Indah Kiat (INKP IJ) to deny rights issue rumor

[simon bolenang]

Indah Kiat (INKP IJ) to deny rights issue rumor. INKP
management said it will come out with an official denial of the rumors
regarding a planned rights issue, which is the reason the stock got hammered
recently.
Namanya juga rumor, bisa benar bisa salah, jangan2 lagi cari barang
murah, bandar hembusin rumor, biar pd cut lose.



  

RE: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[simon bolenang]

Selama olympiade, mobil2 bi batasi penggunaannya, jadi sebentar lagi
pemakaian BBM meningkat lagi  China

--- On Thu, 8/21/08, Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, August 21, 2008, 11:39 AM



















Kebetulan
pula China sbg pengguna energi terbesar di dunia telah
selesai mengadakan olimpiade – berarti pemakaian energi di sonoakan bertambah2 
lg 

   

Happy Chuan, 

   

Aria 

   





From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On
Behalf Of conx_2003

Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008
9:22 PM

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar]
Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI 





   







Bukan karena permainan MM yah



pas perang Russia vs Georgia aja naeknya ga seberapa



ini cuma 'isu' US tegang sama Russia aja uda naek



itu 2 mana mungkin perang punya, jaman dah modern masa mo world war III?



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com,
Indonesian Private Investors

 wrote:

>

> USD Pak.. USD weakening lagi.. waktu comms pada ke selatan juga

karena USD menguat.. its always been USD play play :)

> 

> --- Pada Kam, 21/8/08, jsx_consultant  menulis:

> Dari: jsx_consultant 

> Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> Tanggal: Kamis, 21 Agustus, 2008, 7:28 PM

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[obrolan-bandar] ( PGAS IJ) update: SSWJ pipelines have been complete

[simon bolenang]

Perusahaan Gas (PGAS IJ) update: SSWJ pipelines have been
completed and PLN will start taking gas from end August 08, stake sale may not
happen this year. Visibility improves, and there is
room for upside on our analyst's numbers. Separately, the House may block 
govtʼs plan
to sell stakes in Perusahaan Gas (PGAS IJ). The govt was planning
to sell additional shares in PGAS that they got from the debt to equity
conversion. The plan may be postponed to 2009, due to weak market condition.
Government project loan amount is about 127.43bn rupiah and Implied conversion
price/share is about Rp100. So total dilutive shares is 1274mn shares or 5.59%
of the total outstanding shares. PGAS: SSWJ pipelines have been completed.
Visibility improves, and there is room for upside on our analyst's numbers.



  

[obrolan-bandar] ASGR rights issue

[simon bolenang]

Astra Graphia (ASGR IJ) rights issue? Report
that ASGR is planning to increase capital through rights issue. ASGR has market
cap of only US$59.3mn or 0.68% of parent Astra International (ASII IJ).



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[Rully]

mungkin perlu dibedakan antara mengasihi dengan mengasihani?

nyampah dot com,
Rully


On 8/22/08, abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Klo itu malah kurang ajar lah Vid. Coba deh kecian de lo in ortu atau
> guru, apa gak ditabok :P
>
> Spiritualism is all about (within) yourself
>
> 2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> > Sekalian aja bilang... "kacian deh lu"
> >
> > Pada 22 Agustus 2008 01:02, abdulrahim abdulrahim
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > menulis:
> >>
> >> 2008/8/21 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >:
> >>
> >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> buat apa??? dia gak butuh kita tapi kita yg butuh dia :P
> >> >>
> >> >> Pada 21 Agustus 2008 23:25, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Mang gak boleh kasian sama Tuhan, Vid?
> >> >> > :P
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Sama Tuhan kasian?? emang Tuhan itu kenapa koq dikasihani??
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> > TUHAN Ngga butuh dikasihani tapi KITA BUTUH untuk MENGASIHI DIA
> >> > apalagi dibela...ngga butuh Tuhan itu dibela, ngga butuh pegacara kali
> >> > ye...
> >> > Dia kan HAKIMNYA
> >>
> >> Nanya khan Vid?
> >> Tuh, udah dijawab oleh koh Hendrik. Gw kurang lebih seperti itu
> >> pendapatnya. Jadi intinya, Tuhan emang gak minta dikasihani, tapi apa
> >> salahnya ngasih kasihan. :P
> >> Kita kasih sesuatu itu khan gak mesti nunggu yang mau kita kasih itu
> >> sampe minta2 terlebih dulu
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bull..ehh...Bear...ehh..Bulll..... omong kosong lah...

[Halim Mintareja]

Mn...

sekedar repeat aja. Dulu ada yang marah waktu saya posting seperti di bawah
ini. Jadi maaf dulu kalau tersinggung.

Di BEI saat ini ada 2 saham utility. Road Utility (JSMR) dan Energy Utility
(PGAS)

Nah...sambil berjalannya waktu.. kita lihat bagaimana pengaruh direksi JSMR
ke fluktuasi saham JSMR. Saham utility biasanya steady growth dengan low
volatilitas.

Soal PGAS tahu sendiri lah bagaimana volatilitasnya sepanjang tahun karena
berbagai macam berita.

2008/8/21 lkm jkt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Pak Halim
>
> Mohon dijelaskan maksud  dari kwalitas direksi sambil jalan
>
> Thank
>
> Lukman
>
>
> 2008/8/21 Halim Mintareja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   Nah itu diamasalah dengan indo :((
>>
>> satu saham utility pernah jadi korban.
>>
>> kita lihat aja kwalitas direksi JSMR sambil jalan
>>
>> 2008/8/21 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>> 
>>> JSMR masih CUKUP kepengaruh isu global dan Politik..itu yang
>>> memberatkan.
>>> \
>>> Masalah produk simpel. sih simpel
>>>
>>> oh iya, syarat ke 3:
>>> MAnajemen
>>> harus punya 3 hal
>>>
>>> INTEGRITAS
>>> INTELEGENSY / Kepintaran
>>> dan
>>> ENERGY
>>>
>>> harus punya yang pertama dulu
>>> klaua ngga 2 yang terakhir akan membunuh anda (buffet)
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> + +
>>> + + + + +
>>> Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
>>> kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
>>> + + + + +
>>> + +Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Lukman
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Klo itu malah kurang ajar lah Vid. Coba deh kecian de lo in ortu atau
guru, apa gak ditabok :P

Spiritualism is all about (within) yourself

2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sekalian aja bilang...  "kacian deh lu"
>
> Pada 22 Agustus 2008 01:02, abdulrahim abdulrahim
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>>
>> 2008/8/21 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> buat apa??? dia gak butuh kita tapi kita yg butuh dia :P
>> >>
>> >> Pada 21 Agustus 2008 23:25, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>> >>
>> >> > Mang gak boleh kasian sama Tuhan, Vid?
>> >> > :P
>> >> >
>> >> > 2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
>> >> >
>> >> > > Sama Tuhan kasian?? emang Tuhan itu kenapa koq dikasihani??
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> > TUHAN Ngga butuh dikasihani tapi KITA BUTUH untuk MENGASIHI DIA
>> > apalagi dibela...ngga butuh Tuhan itu dibela, ngga butuh pegacara kali
>> > ye...
>> > Dia kan HAKIMNYA
>>
>> Nanya khan Vid?
>> Tuh, udah dijawab oleh koh Hendrik. Gw kurang lebih seperti itu
>> pendapatnya. Jadi intinya, Tuhan emang gak minta dikasihani, tapi apa
>> salahnya ngasih kasihan. :P
>> Kita kasih sesuatu itu khan gak mesti nunggu yang mau kita kasih itu
>> sampe minta2 terlebih dulu

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[vividtrader]

Sekalian aja bilang...  "kacian deh lu"

Pada 22 Agustus 2008 01:02, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>   2008/8/21 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >:
>
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> buat apa??? dia gak butuh kita tapi kita yg butuh dia :P
> >>
> >> Pada 21 Agustus 2008 23:25, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> >>
> >> > Mang gak boleh kasian sama Tuhan, Vid?
> >> > :P
> >> >
> >> > 2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> >> >
> >> > > Sama Tuhan kasian?? emang Tuhan itu kenapa koq dikasihani??
> >> >
> >> >
> > TUHAN Ngga butuh dikasihani tapi KITA BUTUH untuk MENGASIHI DIA
> > apalagi dibela...ngga butuh Tuhan itu dibela, ngga butuh pegacara kali
> > ye...
> > Dia kan HAKIMNYA
>
> Nanya khan Vid?
> Tuh, udah dijawab oleh koh Hendrik. Gw kurang lebih seperti itu
> pendapatnya. Jadi intinya, Tuhan emang gak minta dikasihani, tapi apa
> salahnya ngasih kasihan. :P
> Kita kasih sesuatu itu khan gak mesti nunggu yang mau kita kasih itu
> sampe minta2 terlebih dulu
>  
>



-- 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

2008/8/21 hendrik_lwww <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> buat apa??? dia gak butuh kita tapi kita yg butuh dia :P
>>
>> Pada 21 Agustus 2008 23:25, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>>
>> > Mang gak boleh kasian sama Tuhan, Vid?
>> > :P
>> >
>> > 2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
>> >
>> > > Sama Tuhan kasian?? emang Tuhan itu kenapa koq dikasihani??
>> >
>> >
> TUHAN Ngga butuh dikasihani tapi KITA BUTUH untuk MENGASIHI DIA
> apalagi dibela...ngga butuh Tuhan itu dibela, ngga butuh pegacara kali
> ye...
> Dia kan HAKIMNYA

Nanya khan Vid?
Tuh, udah dijawab oleh koh Hendrik. Gw kurang lebih seperti itu
pendapatnya. Jadi intinya, Tuhan emang gak minta dikasihani, tapi apa
salahnya ngasih kasihan. :P
Kita kasih sesuatu itu khan gak mesti nunggu yang mau kita kasih itu
sampe minta2 terlebih dulu

RE: [obrolan-bandar] ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

[JsxTrader]

Ehh…, tumben si Engkong ngga ngeledekin ane….hehehe… GBU Sir, mudah-mudahan 
beberapa hari kemarin ngga kelupaan AVE DOWN…haha… Happy Cuan!

 

Best Regards,

JsxTrader 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
SbudianaY
Sent: 21 Agustus 2008 11:48
To: Obrolan Bandar
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

 


Jsx memang paling pinter logika analisa nya hehehe.

GBUs Always,

SB

Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device

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From: "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:48:15 +0700
To: 
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

Probably not Pak DE.., Ban kiri sengaja dikempesin biar BIS miring kekiri and 
penumpang tumpah….hehe…sorry mungkin kurang objective.., ane dah in position 
lagi soalnya…hehe

 

Salam,

JsxTrader

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Dean Earwicker
Sent: 21 Agustus 2008 10:35
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ADA SHORT SELLER, mungkin amatiran mbah

 

Kira-kira daku ngeshort bumi hari ini bisa coan gak yah soalnya ban kiri agak 
kempes..

padahal minyak naek, dan TA sinyal rebound..

nekatmode=on


Regards,
DE

Pada 21 Agustus 2008 10:11, sultan qatar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

Mbah, belum genap 10 menit transaksi, indikasinya ada yang melakukan short 
selling.

Mbah lihat siapa yang nyoba buang2. Ane tidak tahu, tapi sepertinya amatiran, 
memanfaatkan regional yang sedang merah.

 

Tanggal 20082008 kemarin, Ane sampaikan sangat mungkin AKAN ADA ANOMALI  di 
market dalam 3 bulan kedepan, .

Mungkin BUMI akan 
melompatlompaTlompATlomPAT.loMPATlOMPAT...LOMPAT.

dan akan diikuti yang lain.

Jadi terlalu riskan untuk melakukan short selling.

 

Kalau minggu kemarin short, ane kira boleh jadi menang PELAKUNYA.

Kalau minggu ini kedepan, sepertinya  berat mbah.

 

mungkin 10 x short, 8x kalah.

jadi mending tidak short.

 

kalau bulan kemarin, 10 x short bisa 10 x menang.

 

Sepertinya Musimnya sudah berubah.

 

KALAU ANE, TIDAK AKAN SHORT SELLING. DOSA!

 

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPO - Chart

[JsxTrader]

Kalo 0 tembus ngga ngeri lagi dong? Hehe.., and gap up artinya bulish kan pak? 
Cuma memang sayang vol kok kecil ya? Ini yg kurand sip.., Apa data saya salah? 
Kalau ada yg bisa kasih konfirmasi.., pls share dong. Thanks..
 
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From: vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 23:55:05 
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPO - Chart


gak ada yg salah dgn datanya koq pak  cuma CCI yg pas di 0 (resisten??)
trus ada gap up yg bikin agak ngeri  thanks bwt chartnya

Pada 21 Agustus 2008 22:19, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>Ya Pak.., data dari Reuters�, salah dimananya ya Pak Vivid? Pls Adv. Tq
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *vividtrader
> *Sent:* 21 Agustus 2008 21:12
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPO - Chart
>
>
>
> Lho CCInya koq pas di 0  trus koq CPOnya koq bikin gap up
>
> Pada 21 Agustus 2008 21:00, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
> Kalau ngarep CPO naik boleh ngga ?? kalau ngga boleh ya sdh.., ngarep UNSP
> naik aja deh�..
>
>
>
> JsxTrader
>
>
>
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[hendrik_lwww]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> buat apa???  dia gak butuh kita  tapi kita yg butuh dia :P
> 
> Pada 21 Agustus 2008 23:25, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> 
> >   Mang gak boleh kasian sama Tuhan, Vid?
> > :P
> >
> > 2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> >
> > > Sama Tuhan kasian?? emang Tuhan itu kenapa koq dikasihani??
> >  
> >
TUHAN Ngga butuh dikasihani tapi KITA BUTUH untuk MENGASIHI DIA
apalagi dibela...ngga butuh Tuhan itu dibela, ngga butuh pegacara kali 
ye...
Dia kan HAKIMNYA

Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPO - Chart

[vividtrader]

gak ada yg salah dgn datanya koq pak  cuma CCI yg pas di 0 (resisten??)
trus ada gap up yg bikin agak ngeri  thanks bwt chartnya

Pada 21 Agustus 2008 22:19, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>Ya Pak.., data dari Reuters…, salah dimananya ya Pak Vivid? Pls Adv. Tq
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *vividtrader
> *Sent:* 21 Agustus 2008 21:12
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPO - Chart
>
>
>
> Lho CCInya koq pas di 0  trus koq CPOnya koq bikin gap up
>
> Pada 21 Agustus 2008 21:00, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
>
> Kalau ngarep CPO naik boleh ngga ?? kalau ngga boleh ya sdh.., ngarep UNSP
> naik aja deh…..
>
>
>
> JsxTrader
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[vividtrader]

buat apa???  dia gak butuh kita  tapi kita yg butuh dia :P

Pada 21 Agustus 2008 23:25, abdulrahim abdulrahim <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>   Mang gak boleh kasian sama Tuhan, Vid?
> :P
>
> 2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
>
> > Sama Tuhan kasian?? emang Tuhan itu kenapa koq dikasihani??
>  
>



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Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Ssssttt... jangan berisik Pak
Ntar gw geer ngira dikabulin harapannya usd&rp melemah. Ntar disuruh
tobat lagi deh sama om sapa tuh

2008/8/21 Indonesian Private Investors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> USD Pak.. USD weakening lagi.. waktu comms pada ke selatan juga karena USD
> menguat.. its always been USD play play :)
>
> --- Pada Kam, 21/8/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> menulis:
>
> Dari: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Kamis, 21 Agustus, 2008, 7:28 PM
>
> Harga metal, minyak naik terus dan TAK TERTAHAN LAGI seperti
> REM BLONG
>
> Is it a BEAR RALLY or the beginning of a BULL RALLY ?.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Macam2 Doa Orang di Bursa (sekedar hiburan)

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Mang gak boleh kasian sama Tuhan, Vid?
:P

2008/8/21 vividtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Sama Tuhan kasian?? emang Tuhan itu kenapa koq dikasihani??

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Oil Jumps $6 on US-Russia Tensions, Sliding Dollar...

[Andi Wahyudi]

Bukannya kmrn banyak yg bilang kl minyak akan turun ke bawah? Wah..rupanya 
beliau2 mau nge-short ya?

--- On Thu, 21/8/08, Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Aria Bela Nusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Oil Jumps $6 on US-Russia Tensions, Sliding Dollar...
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, 21 August, 2008, 10:50 PM



















Oil Jumps $6 on US-Russia Tensions,
Sliding Dollar-
AP  

Oil prices shot up $6
a barrel Thursday, rising to the highest level in over two weeks as escalating
tensions with Russia stoked fears of a disruption of energy shipments to
Western countries. 

Oil jumps $6 on US-Russia tensions, sliding dollar

Thursday
August 21, 11:35 am ET 

By
Stevenson Jacobs, AP Business Writer  


 
  

 


Oil jumps $6 on growing US-Russia tensions, sliding dollar,
worries of OPEC output cut  

NEW
YORK (AP) -- Oil prices shot up $6 a barrel Thursday, rising to the highest
level in over two weeks as escalating tensions with Russia stoked fears of a
disruption of energy shipments to Western countries.  

Crude's rally mimicked the wild
price swings seen last month and have at least temporarily halted oil's slide
back toward $100 a barrel. A weaker U.S. dollar and worries about tightening
output from OPEC countries are also supporting prices.  

Tensions with Russia about a deal
between Washington and Poland to install a missile defense system in Eastern
Europe -- seen as a threat by Moscow -- and the continued presence of Russian
troops in Georgia contributed greatly to the bullish mood.  

Light, sweet crude for October
delivery jumped $6.32 to $121.88 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
It was crude's highest trading level since Aug. 4.  

"The sellers are backing away
for now," said Jim Ritterbusch, president of
energy consultancy Ritterbusch and Associates in
Galena, Ill. "If military activity heats up again, pipeline flows into
Europe could be disrupted and that would affect the United States as
well."  

The price jump came as retail gas
prices continued to fall, shedding more than a penny overnight to a new
national average of $3.702, according to auto club AAA, the Oil Price
Information Service, and Wright Express. Prices have now fallen 10 percent from
record highs above $4 a gallon set July 17, but the pace of the drop off could
slow if oil holds onto Thursday's gains.  

"This is probably about it in
terms of a retail gas drop. We may be a few cents away from the August
bottom," said Tom Kloza, publisher and chief
analyst at the Oil Price Information Service in Wall, N.J.  

Oil's jump came a day after the U.S.
government report a huge rise in U.S. crude inventories. But other supplies
were less abundant.  

Gasoline inventories shrank by a
larger-than- expected 6.2 million barrels to below-average levels in the week
ended Aug. 15, the U.S. Energy Department's Energy Information Administration
said Wednesday. Meanwhile, distillate inventories -- which include heating oil
and diesel fuel -- rose by less than expected, the EIA said.  

That was enough to offset a hefty
9.4 million barrel rise in U.S. crude stocks last week when the average analyst
forecast had been for a 1.7 million barrel increase, according to energy
information provider Platts.  

"That report had something for
everyone," said David Moore, a commodity strategist at Commonwealth Bank
of Australia in Sydney. "On the one hand, the crude inventory buildup was
quite strong, but the gasoline draw was also very prominent."  

But growing concerns over Russia's
standoff with Georgia and NATO grabbed the attention of most oil traders
Thursday.  

On Wednesday, Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice and her Polish counterpart signed a deal to build an American
missile defense base in Poland. Last week, a top Russian general warned Poland
was risking an attack, possibly a nuclear one, by developing the base.  

JBC Energy in Vienna said the
"political risk premium of oil prices" had widened to more than $10 a
barrel, which could be attributed at least in part to the Russian angle.  

Investors are also trying to
anticipate the outcome of the next Organization of the Petroleum Exporting
Countries meeting in early September, as supply concerns could rise further if
members of the cartel decide to lower their output in response to slower
demand. Venezuelan Oil Minister Rafael Ramirez said he might propose an output
cut at the next OPEC meeting.  

U.S. energy consultancy Cameron
Hanover noted in its daily market report that some members of the oil group
were "terrified of allowing Western countries to build any kind of cushion
for the unexpected, because it has the potential to return prices to normal or
sustainable economic levels" and interfere with OPEC's ability to keep
building massive foreign currency reserves.  

Oil prices have rebounded after
falling about $35, or nearly a quarter, from their all-time trading record
$147.27 on Jul

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Maap maap nih pak Vic. Sekalian itu simbol2 singkatannya apa si?
Apa AA itu, gw? :D
Coal yang mana?

2008/8/21 Vic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> CA 3M78307850
> +325
> AH 3M28452855
> +87
> PB 3M19001925
> +142.5
> ZS 3M18501870
> +110
> SN 3M2165021950
> +1300
> NI 3M2130021500
> +1475
> AA 3M25052525
> +55
> NA 3M25702590
> +80

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[Vic]

CA 3M78307850   +325AH
3M28452855   +87PB
3M19001925   +142.5ZS
3M18501870   +110SN
3M2165021950   +1300NI
3M2130021500   +1475AA
3M25052525   +55NA
3M25702590   +80


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Harga metal, minyak naik terus dan TAK TERTAHAN LAGI seperti
> REM BLONG
>
> Is it a BEAR RALLY or the beginning of a BULL RALLY ?.
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

2008/8/21 jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Harga metal, minyak naik terus dan TAK TERTAHAN LAGI seperti
> REM BLONG
>
> Is it a BEAR RALLY or the beginning of a BULL RALLY ?.

Ok Mbah.
BUMI masih pegang khan?
Sayang pak DE keburu turun.

Kayaknya bozz gak bisa tahan2 BUMI lagi besok kayak hari ini.

Pak JT pegangan ya. Siap2 tembus 5400 kayaknya deh :D

[obrolan-bandar] Oil Jumps $6 on US-Russia Tensions, Sliding Dollar...

[Aria Bela Nusa]

  Oil Jumps $6 on US-Russia
Tensions, Sliding Dollar- AP 
Oil prices shot up $6 a barrel Thursday, rising to the highest level in over
two weeks as escalating tensions with Russia stoked fears of a disruption of
energy shipments to Western countries.
Oil jumps $6 on US-Russia tensions, sliding dollar
Thursday August 21, 11:35 am ET 
By Stevenson Jacobs, AP Business Writer 

Oil jumps $6 on growing US-Russia tensions, sliding dollar, worries of OPEC
output cut 
NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil prices shot up $6 a barrel Thursday, rising to the
highest level in over two weeks as escalating tensions with Russia stoked
fears of a disruption of energy shipments to Western countries. 
Crude's rally mimicked the wild price swings seen last month and have at
least temporarily halted oil's slide back toward $100 a barrel. A weaker
U.S. dollar and worries about tightening output from OPEC countries are also
supporting prices. 
Tensions with Russia about a deal between Washington and Poland to install a
missile defense system in Eastern Europe -- seen as a threat by Moscow --
and the continued presence of Russian troops in Georgia contributed greatly
to the bullish mood. 
Light, sweet crude for October delivery jumped $6.32 to $121.88 a barrel on
the New York Mercantile Exchange. It was crude's highest trading level since
Aug. 4. 
"The sellers are backing away for now," said Jim Ritterbusch, president of
energy consultancy Ritterbusch and Associates in Galena, Ill. "If military
activity heats up again, pipeline flows into Europe could be disrupted and
that would affect the United States as well." 
The price jump came as retail gas prices continued to fall, shedding more
than a penny overnight to a new national average of $3.702, according to
auto club AAA, the Oil Price Information Service, and Wright Express. Prices
have now fallen 10 percent from record highs above $4 a gallon set July 17,
but the pace of the drop off could slow if oil holds onto Thursday's gains. 
"This is probably about it in terms of a retail gas drop. We may be a few
cents away from the August bottom," said Tom Kloza, publisher and chief
analyst at the Oil Price Information Service in Wall, N.J. 
Oil's jump came a day after the U.S. government report a huge rise in U.S.
crude inventories. But other supplies were less abundant. 
Gasoline inventories shrank by a larger-than-expected 6.2 million barrels to
below-average levels in the week ended Aug. 15, the U.S. Energy Department's
Energy Information Administration said Wednesday. Meanwhile, distillate
inventories -- which include heating oil and diesel fuel -- rose by less
than expected, the EIA said. 
That was enough to offset a hefty 9.4 million barrel rise in U.S. crude
stocks last week when the average analyst forecast had been for a 1.7
million barrel increase, according to energy information provider Platts. 
"That report had something for everyone," said David Moore, a commodity
strategist at Commonwealth Bank of Australia in Sydney. "On the one hand,
the crude inventory buildup was quite strong, but the gasoline draw was also
very prominent." 
But growing concerns over Russia's standoff with Georgia and NATO grabbed
the attention of most oil traders Thursday. 
On Wednesday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and her Polish counterpart
signed a deal to build an American missile defense base in Poland. Last
week, a top Russian general warned Poland was risking an attack, possibly a
nuclear one, by developing the base. 
JBC Energy in Vienna said the "political risk premium of oil prices" had
widened to more than $10 a barrel, which could be attributed at least in
part to the Russian angle. 
Investors are also trying to anticipate the outcome of the next Organization
of the Petroleum Exporting Countries meeting in early September, as supply
concerns could rise further if members of the cartel decide to lower their
output in response to slower demand. Venezuelan Oil Minister Rafael Ramirez
said he might propose an output cut at the next OPEC meeting. 
U.S. energy consultancy Cameron Hanover noted in its daily market report
that some members of the oil group were "terrified of allowing Western
countries to build any kind of cushion for the unexpected, because it has
the potential to return prices to normal or sustainable economic levels" and
interfere with OPEC's ability to keep building massive foreign currency
reserves. 
Oil prices have rebounded after falling about $35, or nearly a quarter, from
their all-time trading record $147.27 on July 11. Many investors expect that
high gasoline prices and slowing economic growth in the U.S., Europe and
Japan will undermine global energy demand. 
Prices were supported Thursday by a weaker dollar compared to the euro. A
falling greenback encourages investors to seek commodities such as oil as a
hedge against inflation and a weaker dollar. 
"The slide in the dollar has taken some of the wind out of the bear's 

[obrolan-bandar] WIKA ribon atau break down?

[freez z]

bandar gw serahkan nasib wika padamu!!!



  <>

RE: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[Aria Bela Nusa]

Kebetulan pula China sbg pengguna energi terbesar di dunia telah selesai
mengadakan olimpiade - berarti pemakaian energi di sonoakan bertambah2 lg
 
Happy Chuan,
 
Aria
 
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of conx_2003
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:22 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG
LAGI
 
Bukan karena permainan MM yah

pas perang Russia vs Georgia aja naeknya ga seberapa

ini cuma 'isu' US tegang sama Russia aja uda naek

itu 2 mana mungkin perang punya, jaman dah modern masa mo world war III?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , Indonesian Private Investors
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> USD Pak.. USD weakening lagi.. waktu comms pada ke selatan juga
karena USD menguat.. its always been USD play play :)
> 
> --- Pada Kam, 21/8/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> Dari: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
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> Nama baru untuk Anda! 
> Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan
@rocketmail. 
> Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [Deutsche Bank] Indonesia Morning Shots

[jos_martino]

Dari bacaan dibawah: Depleting current account - trend reversal Due to
fast rising imports and underperforming non-commodities exports,
Indonesia 's current account may reach its lowest level in years in
2Q08. Although it should remain positive, the trend is likely to reverse
to its pre-1997 deficit position as the country's economic development
normalises and the commodities trade surplus declines. As such, BI may
have to be content with larger rate hikes to ensure that the environment
remains conducive to maintaining capital inflow.
Ha..ha.. ha kayenya musti dibalik pernyataannya:

Due to fast larger rate hikes to ensure that the environment remains
conducive to maintaining capital inflow, BI may have to deal with rising
imports and underperforming non-commodities exports, Indonesia 's
current account may reach its lowest level in years in 2Q08.

Karena penyebab rising imports and underperforming non-commodities
exports adalah KENAIKAN RATE itu sendiri. LOL

rgs,

JM


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, James Liem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> DB Global Emerging Market Conference in New York on September 3 - 5,
2008.
> From Indonesia the following corporates will attend: Indika Energy,
Adaro Energy, Bank Negara Indonesia , Indofood, and Bumi Resources. For
registration, please contact your DB Representatives or register thru
the web - http://conferences.db.com/americas/gems08, Passcode: gems08
> PUBLISHED REPORTS
> Indonesia Strategy - Trend reversal
> Semen Gresik – Earnings protection from greater pricing
flexibility
> Indonesia Strategy - Trend reversal
> Depleting current account - trend reversal
> Due to fast rising imports and underperforming non-commodities
exports, Indonesia 's current account may reach its lowest level in
years in 2Q08. Although it should remain positive, the trend is likely
to reverse to its pre-1997 deficit position as the country's economic
development normalises and the commodities trade surplus declines. As
such, BI may have to be content with larger rate hikes to ensure that
the environment remains conducive to maintaining capital inflow.
> Outweighed by positive macro development elsewhere
> We do not anticipate rupiah weakness due to this development. To be
sure, other important macroeconomic moving parts are encouraging:
inflation seems to be peaking out, lower oil prices are easing the
pressure on the budget, Indonesian job creation is at an all-time high,
etc. Still, these developments may be influenced by the current negative
market sentiment. Indeed, foreign investment flow in government papers,
especially SBI, tends to be very macro newsflow-driven and its volatile
nature has significant impact on the rupiah. BI plans to announce the
BOP position by early September.
> The drag factors
> The trade surplus has been declining in recent months. Including FTZ
accounts, in 2Q08, the trade surplus dwindled to a mere one-third of the
previous quarter's surplus. We attribute this decline to the steep
increase in imports; even non-oil imports increased 46% ytd yoy, partly
because of inflation. Imports of capital equipment, raw material and
consumer products all saw steep increases. The top seven import
products, including machinery equipment, electronics, automotive and
other raw material items such as steel and iron contributed to 60% of
the non-oil import increase. While this reflects positively on domestic
demand resilience, the counterbalance of capital inflow is mostly in the
form of portfolio inflow rather than direct investment. Indeed, the
commodities trade surplus may decline as non-oil trade surplus is double
that of the oil trade deficit. Non-commodities exports have also been
lacklustre at 12% ytd yoy; however, adjusting for WPI, they
> may have just been flat.
> Stock implications
> We believe that positive macro-economic development elsewhere should
far outweigh the current account depletion. However, market perception
may be affected by the current market sentiment. In such an unlikely
scenario, stocks that may do well are commodity related, while most of
the consumer stocks, except Indofood, would be negatively affected in
the event of rupiah weakness.
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] CPO - Chart

[JsxTrader]

Ya Pak.., data dari Reuters., salah dimananya ya Pak Vivid? Pls Adv. Tq

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of vividtrader
Sent: 21 Agustus 2008 21:12
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPO - Chart

 

Lho CCInya koq pas di 0  trus koq CPOnya koq bikin gap up

Pada 21 Agustus 2008 21:00, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

Kalau ngarep CPO naik boleh ngga ?? kalau ngga boleh ya sdh.., ngarep UNSP
naik aja deh...

 

JsxTrader

 

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[obrolan-bandar] Sekilas Malam: US economic data

[jos_martino]

Jam 21.50 wib

Unemployment Claims TURUN (+)
Philadelphia manufacture NAIK (+)
Economic Index JATUH dibawah estimate (-)
Gas Storage Naik diatas estimate (+)

Keseluruhan laporan cukup bagus, kemungkinan oil akan jatuh lagi ke 
$115 setelah tadi sempat menyentuh $119.8.

Sekilas Malam
rgs,
JM

PS. Kalo tidak ada berita lagi lho sampe jam 6 nanti

[obrolan-bandar] Financial Modeler – Junior Position

[riomudjid]

Financial Modeler – Junior Position
For biggest GSM operator in Indonesia

The position is for Business Analyst Department and will handle 
corporate plan and business operation scenarios.

Requirement:
Strong education background in Accounting/Finance
Master Degree and Overseas graduate is preferred.
Enjoy working with complex spreadsheet (Excel) and some knowledge of 
VB

If you know anyone, it  your nephew, siblings that may interest it.

Please send CV and sample of your spreadsheet project from past 
working experience or Uni project directly to me.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] atau [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I will give you my office email, once the "chemistry" is there :)

Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[sylar_fang]

.. kl kenaikan oil cuma karena news US vs Russian aja maybe next 
week juga turun ... tapi kalo karena weakening usd bisa bertahan 
ampe fed naekin suku bunga na ... cape deh maen saham kalo 
begini ... udah hoki2 an ... kebetulan beli trus malem na oil naek 
seneng ... kl oil turun bsk mesti siap2 CL ...

:)


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> > Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG 
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> > http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
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Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[conx_2003]

Bukan karena permainan MM yah

pas perang Russia vs Georgia aja naeknya ga seberapa

ini cuma 'isu' US tegang sama Russia aja uda naek

itu 2 mana mungkin perang punya, jaman dah modern masa mo world war III?


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Indonesian Private Investors
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> USD Pak.. USD weakening lagi.. waktu comms pada ke selatan juga
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> Dari: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI
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> http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[conx_2003]

sebenernya saya juga turut sedih kalau minyak naik terus, rakyat makin
susah, tapi skarang market analoginya klo minyak naek, bumi ikut naek
sih.. jadi saya berharap minyak naik sampe 125 aja ga usa banyak2,
coal naeknya banyak tapi hehehe

119.88 seperti kata mbah TIDAK PAKAI REM

REM Nya BLONG!! hati2 nabrak 

relax sajalah tidur nyenyak dulu daripada ntar jem 12, oil tiba2 drop
ga jadi tidur deh hahahhaa




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hidayat.ardiansyah
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> btw minyak dah 119 hampir tembus 120 ya ini harus senang atau ikut
> berduka =)
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> >   Kemaren pada posting SUPER DUPER BEARISH
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> > tidak digunakan sebagai acuan jual / beli hehehehehe
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Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI

[vividtrader]

Jadi geopolitik cuma bumbu ya? intinya tetep USD

Pada 21 Agustus 2008 21:02, Indonesian Private Investors <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>   USD Pak.. USD weakening lagi.. waktu comms pada ke selatan juga karena
> USD menguat.. its always been USD play play :)
>
> --- Pada *Kam, 21/8/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>*menulis:
>
> Dari: jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Kenaikan harga commodity TAK TERBENTUNG LAGI
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Kamis, 21 Agustus, 2008, 7:28 PM
>
>   Harga metal, minyak naik terus dan TAK TERTAHAN LAGI seperti
> REM BLONG
>
> Is it a BEAR RALLY or the beginning of a BULL RALLY ?.
>
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> --
>  Nama baru untuk Anda!
> 
> Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan
> @rocketmail.
> Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain!
> 
>



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