Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[Dean Earwicker]

Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game
"Tekken"
di PS2, kalo penasaran sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe..

Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan?

Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih
profil/blog/website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB
banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar
saran aja.

Regards,
DE

Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>  *Wah...one of my fav give a statementwelcome Pak DE. I just want to
> "wusssh" for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe...we're
> private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) *
> *Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. *
> **
> **
> **
> *Regards,*
> **
> **
> **
> *SF FM*
> *Where you can trust your fund*
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> To: "obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM
>
>
>  wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim
> provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis,
> ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau
> emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh.
>
> btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di
> google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku
> FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu.
> Soalnya banyak penipuan sih.
>
> Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama
> mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu..
> wakakaka..
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> 2008/12/2 Dick Q >
>
>>  Sir,
>> Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih "warn"
>> akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini.
>> Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something
>> wrong is going to be happened. :))
>> makanya saya bilang simpan aja "dalam dapur" kalau hanya ingin memberikan
>> "warning" tanpa ada argumentasi
>> yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de.
>> Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap
>> berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih.
>> Saya tidak melihat itu suatu "rahasia", karena dalam market tidak ada
>> rahasia.
>> Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama
>> toh...
>> And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan
>> jadi client anda.
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>  - Original Message -
>> *From:* SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
>>   *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
>>
>>
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] PTRA Suspend !

[rachman_radjimin]

PTRA di suspen hari ini,karena ketidakjelasan kelangsungan usaha 
korporasi, dan belum membalas surat edaran dr otoritas bursa. bisa 
diliat di www.idx.co.id 


bisa runyam nih...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[fifi young]

Oh ya Mbah,
No hard feeling..

I'm just fine...

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:54 PM, jsx_consultant <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Ibu Fifi,
>
> Ada ralat nih, semua orang memberikan kontribusi bagi milis OB,
>
> Ada yg jadi jendral, ada yg jadi tentara, ada yg jadi advisor,
> ada yg jadi penyandang dana atau info, ada yg jadi provokator,
> ada tukang pentung, pokonya semua mereka itulah penduduk OB..
>
> Tanpa mereka semua milis OB engga akan bisa jalan.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "fifi young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Pak Rei,
> > Let me give you some clues:
> >
> > Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> > Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
> > Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> > Energy : PGAS
> > Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> > Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
> > Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> > Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> >
> > Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> > Tinggal pilih aja...
> > Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> > "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> > lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
> >
> > simple 'kan?!
> > he... he...
> >
> > Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
> > milis OB... B U B A R dech...
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
> energy and
> > > agriculture products), property and had been working in some
> banking and
> > > also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with
> business
> > > diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in past.
> And
> > > always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach
> my target
> > > price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
> portfolio. It's
> > > my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader
> at 3
> > > different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
> accounts what
> > > should i do to be a good investor, because i used different
> method on my 3
> > > accounts. *
> > > **
> > > *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What i'm
> trying
> > > to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always
> buy them if
> > > i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
> > > So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
> FILTERING, and if
> > > possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do
> some
> > > valuation.*
> > > *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good
> in TA so
> > > I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for
> MBah, Pak JT,
> > > EL, and others).*
> > > *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
> Thank you
> > > very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
> > > *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
> > > DAPUR"HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
> > > **
> > > *Luv u all,*
> > > **
> > > *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
> > > **
> > > **
> > > **
> > > *Regards,*
> > > **
> > > *SF FM*
> > > *Where you can trust your fund*
> > > --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Rei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
> > > Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not
> forget that
> > >> some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not
> joking.I'm
> > >> telling you> remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement)
> still try to
> > >> sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a
> trader, i'm
> > >> just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the
> undervalued
> > >> one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send
> WARNING if
> > >> something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at
> some of my
> > >> post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term
> view will be
> > >> great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or
> bargain
> > >> hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or
> lost their
> > >> money so much).
> > >> If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner,
> then BUY
> > >> carefully.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> SF FM
> > >> Where you can trust your fund
> > >> *
> > >>
> > >> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >* wrote:
> > >>
> > >> From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > >> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > >> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > >> Date: 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[fifi young]

Ah.
mesti berguru ama Pak DE nech,...
belajar bisnis mbek ah...

Selamat ya Pak DE uda Cuan 40%...he...he...

2008/12/2 Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim
> provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis,
> ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau
> emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh.
>
> btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di
> google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku
> FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu.
> Soalnya banyak penipuan sih.
>
> Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama
> mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu..
> wakakaka..
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> 2008/12/2 Dick Q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>  Sir,
>> Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih "warn"
>> akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini.
>> Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something
>> wrong is going to be happened. :))
>> makanya saya bilang simpan aja "dalam dapur" kalau hanya ingin memberikan
>> "warning" tanpa ada argumentasi
>> yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de.
>> Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap
>> berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih.
>> Saya tidak melihat itu suatu "rahasia", karena dalam market tidak ada
>> rahasia.
>> Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama
>> toh...
>> And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan
>> jadi client anda.
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>  *From:* SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>  *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
>>
>>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini...Gedubraaak

[y_dizz]

100 billion dolar Zimbabwe kalo gak salah equal sama cepek jing doang 
kan?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ah cape de, ada lagi di bawah ini si gdbrook punya 100 billion, 
IHSG 
> nya bisa brak gedubaraakk hehehe.
> 
> gdbrook  wrote:
> >
> > I am from Zimbabwe with 100 billion dollars wealth. I can hold 
share
> > with that amount almost forever.
> > It makes me suit to be your client.
> > gdbrook
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[tora]

ehm, kalo dibungkus peram di gudang gimana pak?
kira2 berapa minggu spy layak diliat lagi, sapa tau bisa jadi mie duo porsi 
jumbo :D



  - Original Message - 
  From: JsxTrader 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 2:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini



  so far masih dibawah kemarin, ada big order sebelum sesi 1 tutup, dan 7 menit 
setelah sesi 2 dibuka, selanjutnya masih normal, sepertinya 860-870 dijaga 
ketat..., kelihatannya BD suruh kita menyerah di 880.., hehe. 
   
  JsxTrader 





--
  From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 2:10:03 PM
  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

  Pak JT,
  Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
  Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®



--
  From: "jsxtrader" 
  Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 -
  To: 
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


  lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
  area tembak tuh.. Berani??

  --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli  
  wrote:
  >
  > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
  > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
  > 
  > Regards
  > 
  > 
  > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..>:
  > >
  > > Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
  > >
  > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
  > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
  > >
  > >  - -
  > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
  > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
  > > *To*: 
  > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
  > >
  > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
  > >
  > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep shit"
  > >
  > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc forget it 
  lah..
  > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
  > >
  > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
  > >>
  > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
  wrote:
  > >>
  > >>> Pak Rei,
  > >>> Let me give you some clues:
  > >>>
  > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
  > >>> Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
  > >>> Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
  > >>> Energy : PGAS
  > >>> Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
  > >>> Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
  > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
  > >>> Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
  > >>>
  > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
  > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
  > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
  > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
  > >>> lebih dalem.., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
  > >>>
  > >>> simple 'kan?!
  > >>> he... he...
  > >>>
  > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
  > >>> milis OB... B U B A R dech...
  > >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
  wrote:
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > 
  >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
  energy and
  >  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
  banking and
  >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
  business
  >  diversities. * *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
  past. And
  >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
  reach my target
  >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
  portfolio.
  >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
  trader at 3
  >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
  accounts
  >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
  different method on
  >  my 3 accounts. *
  >  **
  >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
  i'm
  >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, 
  i always buy
  >  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS 
  for me..
  >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
  FILTERING, and if
  >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
  do some
  >  valuation.*
  >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
  good in TA
  >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
  for MBah, Pak
  >  JT, EL, and others).*
  >  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
  Thank you
  >  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
  >  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
  >  DAPUR"HEHE. .BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
  >  **
  >  *Luv u all,*
  >  **
  >  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
  >  **
  >  **
  >  **
  >  *Regards,*
  >  **
  >  *SF FM*
  >  *Where you can t

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[fifi young]

Sorry ye..!

Gue mach 'ga pernah nanya2 isi dompet orang...
malah gue ngasih tau ke orang isi perut gue...

itu mach cuma bantu temen aja ngomong gitu...
karena buat gue 'ga ada rahasianya...

setiap broker pasti tau isi perut masing2 clients-nya...
apa ngga akan ada AO yang ngomong keluar...?

Isi perut HS aja orang2 pada tau,
Jadi 'ga ada yang bisa diumpetin...


On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Felicia Rumondor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>   Trading pake plan sendiri-sendiri lapingin banget siy tahu isi
> dompet orang??
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:41 AM
>
>
>  Pak Rei,
> Let me give you some clues:
>
> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> Energy  : PGAS
> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
>
> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> Tinggal pilih aja
> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
>
> simple 'kan?!
> he... he...
>
> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
> milis OB B U B A R  dech...
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and
>> agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and
>> also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business
>> diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And
>> always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach my target
>> price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's
>> my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3
>> different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 accounts what
>> should i do to be a good investor, because i used different method on my 3
>> accounts. *
>> **
>> *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What i'm trying
>> to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if
>> i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
>> So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if
>> possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some
>> valuation.*
>> *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so
>> I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT,
>> EL, and others).*
>> *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you
>> very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
>> *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
>> DAPUR".HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
>> **
>> *Luv u all,*
>> **
>> *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
>> **
>> **
>> **
>> *Regards,*
>> **
>> *SF FM*
>>  *Where you can trust your fund*
>> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei 
>> >* wrote:
>>
>> From: Rei >
>> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
>> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
>>
>>
>>   I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
>> Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that
>>> some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not joking..I'm
>>> telling you> remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to
>>> sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm
>>> just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the undervalued
>>> one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send WARNING if
>>> something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at some of my
>>> post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term view will be
>>> great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or bargain
>>> hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or lost their
>>> money so much).
>>> If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner, then BUY
>>> carefully.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> SF FM
>>> Where you can trust your fund
>>> *
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >* wrote:
>>>
>>> From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>>> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
>>> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
>>> Date: Tues

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bank Sentral Australia memangkas suku bunganya sebesar 1%..

[kusumo k]

minggu ini kan :))

2008/12/2 cipto_jh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   Bank Sentral Australia memangkas suku bunganya sebesar 1%..
>
> sumber: RTI (dari Kontan)
>
> Kapan ya Bank Indonesia mulai nurunin suku bunganya? knapa ya kita
> beda sendiri? apa nunggu inflasi turun banget? atau jaga-in kurs IDR?
>
> Pola pikirnya gmana ya? padahal manteb bener klu penurunan inflasi MoM
> November kemarin yg cuman 0,12%, plus penurunan premiun ber-subsidi
> Rp.500,-/lt, bahan bakar industri juga, solar ber-subsidi juga bulan
> depan, pan bisa jadi kado spesial tahun baru..
>
> Ngurangi beban perusahaan, biaya bunga pinjaman turun.. biaya
> transportasi/pengangkutan turun, biaya produksi turun.. daripada kudu
> mem-PHK pekerjanya hiks.. hiks.. jadi efek multiplier dech.. ke daya
> beli masyarakat.. kena lagi ke perusahaan.. mbulet aja..
>
> wis ahh.. mbuhh.. yg diatas aja blum tentu mikirin.. yg ada pada sibuk
> cari posisi aman buat April nanti.. mengkali..
>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[y_dizz]

Buseet... Udah sekian lama, gue kirain nama beneran.

Masih suka main PS Pak? Gimana kalo kapan2 kita tanding Winning 
Eleven, mumpung market lagi kaya gini, enakan main game aja.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game
> "Tekken"
> di PS2, kalo penasaran sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe..
> 
> Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh 
kan?
> 
> Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih
> profil/blog/website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya 
yakin di OB
> banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. 
Sekedar
> saran aja.
> 
> Regards,
> DE
> 
> Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:
> 
> >  *Wah...one of my fav give a statementwelcome Pak DE. I just 
want to
> > "wusssh" for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe...we're
> > private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) *
> > *Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. *
> > **
> > **
> > **
> > *Regards,*
> > **
> > **
> > **
> > *SF FM*
> > *Where you can trust your fund*
> >
> >
> > --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > To: "obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com" 
> > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM
> >
> >
> >  wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz 
ngirim
> > provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper 
pesimis,
> > ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata 
trader. Kalau
> > emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali 
loh.
> >
> > btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya 
cari di
> > google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah 
kalo ngaku
> > FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya 
gitu.
> > Soalnya banyak penipuan sih.
> >
> > Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell 
party sama
> > mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu..
> > wakakaka..
> >
> > Regards,
> > DE
> >
> > 2008/12/2 Dick Q >
> >
> >>  Sir,
> >> Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg 
kasih "warn"
> >> akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini.
> >> Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about 
something
> >> wrong is going to be happened. :))
> >> makanya saya bilang simpan aja "dalam dapur" kalau hanya ingin 
memberikan
> >> "warning" tanpa ada argumentasi
> >> yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de.
> >> Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, 
mereka tetap
> >> berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih.
> >> Saya tidak melihat itu suatu "rahasia", karena dalam market 
tidak ada
> >> rahasia.
> >> Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum 
tentu sama
> >> toh...
> >> And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya 
tidak akan
> >> jadi client anda.
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >>
> >>  - Original Message -
> >> *From:* SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> >>   *Sent:* Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[ruzli]

COPET kelas KAKAP
kekekekkk .


2008/12/2, jsxtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running
> trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Pak JT,
> > Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya?
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry(R)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "jsxtrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24
> > To: >
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
> >
> >
> > lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk
> > area tembak tuh.. Berani??
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> ruzli 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
> > > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader :
> > > >
> > > > Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
> > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
> > > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
> > > > *To*: 
> >
> > > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > > >
> > > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
> > > >
> > > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep
> shit"
> > > >
> > > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc forget
> it
> > lah..
> > > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Pak Rei,
> > > >>> Let me give you some clues:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> > > >>> Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO
> > > >>> Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> > > >>> Energy : PGAS
> > > >>> Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> > > >>> Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT
> > > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> > > >>> Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> > > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
> > > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> > > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> > > >>> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
> > > >>>
> > > >>> simple 'kan?!
> > > >>> he... he...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
> > > >>> milis OB... B U B A R dech...
> > > >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > 
> > >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially
> > energy and
> > >  agriculture products), property and had been working in some
> > banking and
> > >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives
> with
> > business
> > >  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in
> > past. And
> > >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they
> > reach my target
> > >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my
> > portfolio.
> > >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've
> 3
> > trader at 3
> > >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3
> > accounts
> > >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used
> > different method on
> > >  my 3 accounts. *
> > >  **
> > >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in.
> **What
> > i'm
> > >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative
> manner,
> > i always buy
> > >  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is
> PRICELESS
> > for me..
> > >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do
> > FILTERING, and if
> > >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and
> > do some
> > >  valuation.*
> > >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not
> > good in TA
> > >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much
> > for MBah, Pak
> > >  JT, EL, and others).*
> > >  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member.
> > Thank you
> > >  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
> > >  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
> > >  DAPUR"HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
> > >  **
> > >  *Luv u all,*
> > >  **
> > >  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
> > >  **
> > >  **
> > >  **
> > >  *Regards,*
> > >  **
> > >  *SF FM*
> > >  *Where you can trust your fund*
> > > 
> > >  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei * wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Rei 
> > >  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > >  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > 
> > >  Cc: syifa.fund@
> > >  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  I

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[jsx_consultant]

IHSG intraday update

http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm

[obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[JOsh WaiKIKI]

temen2 saya tanya ...
Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
thx

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[mr_goen.goen]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"  wrote:
>
> IHSG intraday update
> 
> http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm
>




Seperti kemarin Embah. BD mengikuti kemauan Embah.
IHSG close diatas 1185..

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[jsxtrader]

Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Pak JT,
> Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsxtrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
> 
> 
> lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
> area tembak tuh.. Berani??
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli  
> wrote:
> >
> > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
> > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > 
> > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader :
> > >
> > >   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
> > >
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > >
> > > --
> > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
> > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
> > > *To*: 
> > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > >
> > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
> > >
> > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep 
shit"
> > >
> > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc forget 
it 
> lah..
> > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>   Pak Rei,
> > >>> Let me give you some clues:
> > >>>
> > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> > >>> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
> > >>> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> > >>> Energy  : PGAS
> > >>> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> > >>> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
> > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> > >>> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> > >>>
> > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
> > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> > >>> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
> > >>>
> > >>> simple 'kan?!
> > >>> he... he...
> > >>>
> > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
> > >>> milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
> > >>>   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > 
> >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
> energy and
> >  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
> banking and
> >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
with 
> business
> >  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
> past. And
> >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
> reach my target
> >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
> portfolio.
> >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 
3 
> trader at 3
> >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
> accounts
> >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
> different method on
> >  my 3 accounts. *
> >  **
> >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
**What 
> i'm
> >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
manner, 
> i always buy
> >  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
PRICELESS 
> for me..
> >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
> FILTERING, and if
> >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
> do some
> >  valuation.*
> >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
> good in TA
> >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
> for MBah, Pak
> >  JT, EL, and others).*
> >  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
> Thank you
> >  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
> >  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
> >  DAPUR"HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
> >  **
> >  *Luv u all,*
> >  **
> >  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
> >  **
> >  **
> >  **
> >  *Regards,*
> >  **
> >  *SF FM*
> >   *Where you can trust your fund*
> > 
> >  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei * wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Rei 
> >  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> >  Cc: syifa.fund@
> >  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
> > 
> > 
> >    I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
> >  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com
> >  > wrote:
> > 
> >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[jsxtrader]

BBRI, kalau disiplin, harusnya tadi keluar dulu, target closing ngga 
tercapai, but that's ok, cuma beda gocap.., mungkin BD wants 
technical trader to get out. Berdoa aja ntar malem ijo.

JsxTrader

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Sy ikutan masuk juga pak JT. Kecil2an. Hehe
> BBRI masih boleh hold gak? Kelihatannya mengarah ke 3100-an nih
> 
> Regards,
> ND
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsxtrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:11:01 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
> 
> 
> Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
> trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, nyaham.dong@ wrote:
> >
> > Pak JT,
> > Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "jsxtrader" 
> > 
> > Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
> > To: 
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
> > 
> > 
> > lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
> > area tembak tuh.. Berani??
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
> > > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader :
> > > >
> > > >   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
> > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
> > > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
> > > > *To*: 
> > > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > > >
> > > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
> > > >
> > > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep 
> shit"
> > > >
> > > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc 
forget 
> it 
> > lah..
> > > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>   Pak Rei,
> > > >>> Let me give you some clues:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> > > >>> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
> > > >>> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> > > >>> Energy  : PGAS
> > > >>> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> > > >>> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
> > > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> > > >>> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> > > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
> > > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> > > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> > > >>> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
> > > >>>
> > > >>> simple 'kan?!
> > > >>> he... he...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
> > > >>> milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
> > > >>>   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > 
> > >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities 
(specially 
> > energy and
> > >  agriculture products), property and had been working in 
some 
> > banking and
> > >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
> with 
> > business
> > >  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price 
in 
> > past. And
> > >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
> > reach my target
> > >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
> > portfolio.
> > >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. 
I've 
> 3 
> > trader at 3
> > >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
> > accounts
> > >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
> > different method on
> > >  my 3 accounts. *
> > >  **
> > >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
> **What 
> > i'm
> > >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
> manner, 
> > i always buy
> > >  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
> PRICELESS 
> > for me..
> > >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
> > FILTERING, and if
> > >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL 
and 
> > do some
> > >  valuation.*
> > >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm 
not 
> > good in TA
> > >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so 
much 
> > for MBah, Pak
> > >  JT, EL, and others).*
> > >  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist 
member. 
> > Thank you
> > >  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
> > >  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio 
("RA

[obrolan-bandar] saham apa yg balik dlm bullish ?

[tjetjun]

kalau dalam 3 hari ke depan, saham2 akan naik, saham2 apa yg akan naik 
dgn persentase paling ya ? tolong, saya mau masuk skrg

thks

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[agoes_htm]

Yth Bu Fifi,

Sorry no offense yach. Cuma mau kasih pendapat aja, masing2 AO 
(Broker) itu ada kode etiknya. Salah satu kode etik yaitu menjaga 
kerasahasiaan clientnya. Jadi AR (broker) seharusnya tidak 
membeberkan rahasia clientnya.


Thanks

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "fifi young" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sorry ye..!
> 
> Gue mach 'ga pernah nanya2 isi dompet orang...
> malah gue ngasih tau ke orang isi perut gue...
> 
> itu mach cuma bantu temen aja ngomong gitu...
> karena buat gue 'ga ada rahasianya...
> 
> setiap broker pasti tau isi perut masing2 clients-nya...
> apa ngga akan ada AO yang ngomong keluar...?
> 
> Isi perut HS aja orang2 pada tau,
> Jadi 'ga ada yang bisa diumpetin...
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Felicia Rumondor 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> >   Trading pake plan sendiri-sendiri lapingin banget siy tahu 
isi
> > dompet orang??
> >
> > --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> > From: fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:41 AM
> >
> >
> >  Pak Rei,
> > Let me give you some clues:
> >
> > Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> > Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
> > Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> > Energy  : PGAS
> > Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> > Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
> > Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> > Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> >
> > Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> > Tinggal pilih aja
> > Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> > "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> > lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
> >
> > simple 'kan?!
> > he... he...
> >
> > Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
> > milis OB B U B A R  dech...
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
energy and
> >> agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
banking and
> >> also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with 
business
> >> diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
past. And
> >> always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach 
my target
> >> price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
portfolio. It's
> >> my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 3 
trader at 3
> >> different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
accounts what
> >> should i do to be a good investor, because i used different 
method on my 3
> >> accounts. *
> >> **
> >> *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What 
i'm trying
> >> to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always 
buy them if
> >> i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
> >> So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
FILTERING, and if
> >> possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do 
some
> >> valuation.*
> >> *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
good in TA so
> >> I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for 
MBah, Pak JT,
> >> EL, and others).*
> >> *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
Thank you
> >> very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
> >> *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
> >> DAPUR".HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
> >> **
> >> *Luv u all,*
> >> **
> >> *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
> >> **
> >> **
> >> **
> >> *Regards,*
> >> **
> >> *SF FM*
> >>  *Where you can trust your fund*
> >> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei 
> >> >* wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Rei >
> >> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
> >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>   I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
> >> Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
com<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not 
forget that
> >>> some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not 
joking..I'm
> >>> telling you> remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) 
still try to
> >>> sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not 
a trader, i'm
> >>> just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the 
undervalued
> >>> one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send 
WARNING if
> >>> something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at 
some of my
> >>> post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term 
view will be
> >>> great (buy and ju

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB

[Herman Tobing]

Pak, Trubnya disimpan dulu saja, temannya juga sudah banyak yang gocapan.
Saya juga pegang dan saya coba tahan setahun, mudah mudahan tidak di
reverse.
Tunggu Q3 nya belum keluar.



2008/12/2 hd_chew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   Hi, pak T_Bumi, mau tanya ya bagaimana sebenarnya dengan Trub? kenapa
> makin hari offer makin tebal saja? jadi target2 yg pernah pak T_Bumi
> sampaikan sebelum lebaran tidak berlaku lagi ya pak? karena market
> tidak mendukung ya pak? tapi apakah nantinya bisa terjadi reverse
> stock and di delisting?? sorry tanyanya banyak, please jelasin sedikit
> ya pak, karena saya lihat sebelumnya anda yg paling mendukung untuk
> Trub ini jadi anda pasti sangat mengetahui apa sebenarnya yg sedang
> terjadi dgn emiten satu ini. Terima kasih .
>
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Deposito dan tabungan juga gak kena pajak lagi khan ya?
Tolong informasi dasar hukumnya atau landasannya mengapa deposito dan
tabungan udah gak kena pajak lagi.

Kalau deviden gimana, berapa batas jumlah deviden yang terkena pajak?

Kenapa sih yang udah kena pajak mesti dicantumin lagi di SPT?

2008/12/2 HALIM SUNARTO JAYA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Bung Jos
>
> Semua hasil dari saham aman, sdh dipotong pajak, laporkan saja spt tahuan
> anda, tidak akan kena pajak lagi,
> deposito dan tabungan juga, no problema.
>
> 
> From: JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:05:53 PM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham
>
> temen2 saya tanya ...
> Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
> atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
> thx

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[sylar_fang]

... smua deposito/tabungan/saham memang harus dimasukkan kedalam 
SPT ... jd biar orang pajak tau kekayaaan kita pd stiap akhir taun 
pajak ... jd misalna kita tiba2 bisa beli kapal pesiar seharga 10 
milyar sedangkan penghasilan kita tidak memungkinkan hal tsb terjadi 
ya sumber dana na bisa dari deposito/tabungan/saham itu ...

btw pd ikutan sunset policy gak ya ? ... ane msh bingung nih mesti 
ikutan gak ... btw laporan SPT tahun kmrn ane juga gak cantumin 
saham ane ... malesss  

:)   




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Deposito dan tabungan juga gak kena pajak lagi khan ya?
> Tolong informasi dasar hukumnya atau landasannya mengapa deposito 
dan
> tabungan udah gak kena pajak lagi.
> 
> Kalau deviden gimana, berapa batas jumlah deviden yang terkena 
pajak?
> 
> Kenapa sih yang udah kena pajak mesti dicantumin lagi di SPT?
> 
> 2008/12/2 HALIM SUNARTO JAYA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Bung Jos
> >
> > Semua hasil dari saham aman, sdh dipotong pajak, laporkan saja 
spt tahuan
> > anda, tidak akan kena pajak lagi,
> > deposito dan tabungan juga, no problema.
> >
> > 
> > From: JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:05:53 PM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham
> >
> > temen2 saya tanya ...
> > Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
> > atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah 
final?
> > thx
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Klub saham gocap ( Rp 50 ,- )

[Herman Tobing]

Saham gocapan sudah ada 46 , kalau dibeli @ 10 lot , 460 lot = 11, 5 jt.
Resiko reverse 10 %, masih ada 41 emiten kalau digoreng 10 % saja sudah
pasti cuan, apalagi 1 % digoreng seperti bumi. coba bayangkan saja. UA
(untung-untungan analisis).



2008/12/2 y_dizz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   OH NO
>
> Saint Oentoeng is coming again.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Provokator Saham"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Dean Earwicker"
>
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Berikut listnya, saham yang harganya gocap (1 des 08), diurut dari
> > volume
> > > terbesar:
> > >
> > > Note: hari ini BTEL & BNBR masuk klub 50's (2 des 08)
> > >
> > > CODE PX VOL
> > > -
> > > BTEL 50 118447
> > > DEWA 50 88923
> > > MDLN 50 11037
> > > BNBR 50 10209
> > > TRUB 50 3496
> > > KIJA 50 1933
> > > SDRA 50 1500
> > > KOIN 50 916
> > > LCGP 50 502
> > > FORU 50 202
> > > INAF 50 165
> > > IGAR 50 130
> > > ASRI 50 127
> > > ESTI 50 100
> > > MITI 50 50
> > > KARK 50 40
> > > CNKO 50 20
> > > LMAS 50 1
> > > LPPF 50 0
> > > LPPS 50 0
> > > MAMI 50 0
> > > SIMA 50 0
> > > SIPD 50 0
> > > TIRT 50 0
> > > MLPL 50 0
> > > MYRX 50 0
> > > MYRXP 50 0
> > > MYTX 50 0
> > > POLY 50 0
> > > PTRA 50 0
> > > PYFA 50 0
> > > IATA 50 0
> > > FREN 50 0
> > > GSMF 50 0
> > > INPC 50 0
> > > JASS 50 0
> > > CTTH 50 0
> > > DGIK 50 0
> > > DSFI 50 0
> > > BCIC 50 0
> > > BEKS 50 0
> > > BIPP 50 0
> > > VRNA 50 0
> > > WICO 50 0
> > > ZBRA 50 0
> > > APLI 50 0
> > > AKKU 50 0
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > DE
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Just reminder...
> >
> > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/106534
> > 
> > Secara kiasan;
> > Sekarang ini kita beli saham pake duit 1 Milyar sama sekali tidak
> > ada artinya.
> > Laksana menggarami samudra...
> > Pada saatnya nanti dengan duit 100 Juta investor sudah dapat
> > memborong saham segudang!?
> > 
> >
> > Padahal saat itu BEI masih di 18xx, yang katanye "sudah murah",
> karena
> > sudah turun 1000 POINT from the TOP...
> > Emangnya ke depan tidak akan nambah lagi?
> >
> > Sorry...lagi minus gini nggak kuat nahan diri utk tdk ikut nimbrung.
> > Jangan diartikan FEAR telah datang...
> > Kekekekek
> >
>
> 
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Eropa Ijo

[JsxTrader]

Yee.., bukannya anda yg tadi lari paling kenceng?? Hahaha..., canda Pak..

Let see lah, mudah2an mental !!

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of y_dizz
Sent: 02 Desember 2008 18:05
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Eropa Ijo

Yow yow yow, come on BULL...!!!

Re: [obrolan-bandar] saham apa yg balik dlm bullish ?

[Kevin Hogan]

Bxxx

2008/12/2 Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   trio kwek kwek?
>
>
> *tjetjun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
>  kalau dalam 3 hari ke depan, saham2 akan naik, saham2 apa yg akan naik
> dgn persentase paling ya ? tolong, saya mau masuk skrg
>
> thks
>
>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[SyIFA Fund]

I'm afraid I can't, I just "guarantee" them to get minimum 20%, if they get 
higher then it would be good for them. In West Tale, a Rubinson Crusoe pennies 
can worth billion now, but how long does he take his pennies to be billions? 
 
Just an old folks
 
 
Regards
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund


--- On Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:12 AM






Nope,
I'm just an ugly, horrible looking old nanny...
who tried to pick up some coins and pennies in the stock market...

If you would accept me as an exceptional client with only
coins and pennies to invest,
perhaps you could make it into BILLIONS...?




On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:











Thanks Bu Fifi, 
 
Hey...I'm watching Bloomberg TV and seeing a beautiful girl in blue 
dress.is that you? :)
 
Good Point; BUT some of commodities, com metal, agriculture, banking and 
optional are not in mine. Infrastructure stocks are no longer included in my 
portfolio (long time ago YES).
 
Happy cuan for all. I'm sure that MBah and Pak JT suggestion are enough for you 
because sometimes I follow them but not in other times (if we are not in the 
same page).
 
I don't want to add more disputes in this mailist because i love this mailist 
so much. Enjoy the 2nd session to you all. May God strengthen your will. 
 
 
My Apologize to MBah and others today; I'm so sorry to make inconvenience 
situation on mailist. I'm just human with emotion. :)

 
 
Regards,
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund


--- On Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young  wrote:

From: fifi young 

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:41 AM







Pak Rei,
Let me give you some clues:

Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
Com Metal    : ANTM, TINS, INCO
Agriculture    : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
Energy  : PGAS
Banking    : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
Optional    : ASII, UNTR, HEXA

Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
Tinggal pilih aja
Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
"BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. ..

simple 'kan?!
he... he...

Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
milis OB B U B A R  dech...

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:












Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and 
agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and also 
in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business diversities. 
I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And always accumulate them 
when their undervalued and IF they reach my target price, I'll release them. 
I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows 
except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3 different brokerage firms.. and i learned 
so much from my 3 accounts what should i do to be a good investor, because i 
used different method on my 3 accounts. 
 
Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. What i'm trying to say 
here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if i know 
exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me.. So I ALWAYS try to get 
INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if possible getting close with 
the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some valuation.
For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so I 
watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT, EL, 
and others).
Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you very much 
from my deepest heart to Mbah. 
For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA 
DAPUR".HEHE...BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).
 
Luv u all,
 
PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.
 
 
 
Regards,
 
SF FM

Where you can trust your fund
--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Rei  wrote:

From: Rei 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini 

To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM 








I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
 


 
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:










Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that some big BD 
(some of them are friends of mineI'm not joking.. I'm telling you> 
remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to sell their stock at 
higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm just an investor who 
hold his stock and always try to find the undervalued one for the sake of m

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Eropa Ijo

[y_dizz]

Hahaha, strategi mengecoh BD Pak, padahal udah full tank.

Kesannya gaya banget ya tipu2 BD, padahal mainnya cuma 1-2 lot, 
hahaha...

Nggak kok Pak, saya masih yakin bulan ini akan jadi Desember Ceria. 
Santa Claus tidak akan melupakan janjinya untuk memberi kado bagi 
para trader, scalper dan investor yang percaya bahwa masih ada cahaya 
di ujung terowongan yang gelap ini.

BELIEVE we can CHANGE.

dalembanget.com



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Yee.., bukannya anda yg tadi lari paling kenceng?? Hahaha..., canda 
Pak..
> 
> Let see lah, mudah2an mental !!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of y_dizz
> Sent: 02 Desember 2008 18:05
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Eropa Ijo
> 
> Yow yow yow, come on BULL...!!!
> 
> 
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: saham apa yg balik dlm bullish ?

[y_dizz]

Maaf Pak, bisa diperjelas sahamnya apa, soalnya yang depannya 'B' ada 
47 emiten.

Apakah BTEL? BNBR? Atau malah BKSL?
Hehehe...



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Bxxx
> 
> 2008/12/2 Vincent Chase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >   trio kwek kwek?
> >
> >
> > *tjetjun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
> >
> >  kalau dalam 3 hari ke depan, saham2 akan naik, saham2 apa yg 
akan naik
> > dgn persentase paling ya ? tolong, saya mau masuk skrg
> >
> > thks
> >
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB

[Herman Tobing]

TRUB dan BUMI favoritnya Pak TBumi , apa karena namanya mirip ya? Joke lho
Pak, newsnya ditunggu .
Barangkali sudah ada bocoran Q3.
Tadi di loakan dijual 45.

2008/12/2 PyRiEL PyRiEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   saya beli tuh.. hihihi
>
> On 12/2/08, Kevin Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>   Simpen aja minimal 1 tahun. Jangan pasang offer karena juga ngak ada yg
>> beli.
>>
>> 2008/12/2 Herman Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>>Pak, Trubnya disimpan dulu saja, temannya juga sudah banyak yang
>>> gocapan.
>>> Saya juga pegang dan saya coba tahan setahun, mudah mudahan tidak di
>>> reverse.
>>> Tunggu Q3 nya belum keluar.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/12/2 hd_chew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
   Hi, pak T_Bumi, mau tanya ya bagaimana sebenarnya dengan Trub? kenapa
 makin hari offer makin tebal saja? jadi target2 yg pernah pak T_Bumi
 sampaikan sebelum lebaran tidak berlaku lagi ya pak? karena market
 tidak mendukung ya pak? tapi apakah nantinya bisa terjadi reverse
 stock and di delisting?? sorry tanyanya banyak, please jelasin sedikit
 ya pak, karena saya lihat sebelumnya anda yg paling mendukung untuk
 Trub ini jadi anda pasti sangat mengetahui apa sebenarnya yg sedang
 terjadi dgn emiten satu ini. Terima kasih .


>>>
>>
> 
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

[G - MAN]

El - El, 

 

Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish.

 

Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut.

 

IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA - 679.

 

Regional juga merah.

 

 

Soal BUMI . hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana,

 

Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar.  Itu soalan duit yg geeed banget.

 

Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy

 

Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau 

 

Ngga usah di koar2 disini.  Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, itu yg gua
yakin.

 

 

Gini aje deh El, 

 

Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu show?

 

Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara tepat.

 

Jng bilang ngga bisa.  The real BD bisa.. Itupun kalo lo orang semua kenal
BD yg asli.

 

Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu guru kek, raja
kek apa yg lu mao deh.

 

Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO.

 

Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu

 

 

Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / di puja2
orang.

 

Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis tanpa pamrih,
tanpa OMDO,

 

Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble aja tuh.

 

 

Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu.. 

 

Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya.

 

Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 - 2 T, kecil kan buat BD
berkuasa kaya lu semua.

 

BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja.

 

BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 dukung.

 

 

Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk ngomong gede
melulu. Ngga abis2 lagi.

 

Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak

 

Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu pada "BULLSHITTER"

 

 

SALAM SEBEL

 

G - MAN

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini...Gedubraaak

[Sanjaya]

100 billion dollars (dollarnya Zimbabwe (ZW$)) = GBP 0.34 atau USD 0.64  :)
, alias cuma 64 sen US$

 

Baca selengkapnya di :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe_dollar

In the   Guardian, on 18 July
2008, a report on Zimbabwe's inflation, said that an egg costs ZW$50 billion
(GBP 0.17, USD 0.32), and it showed adverts for prizes of Z$100 trillion in
a Zimbabwean derby and ZW$1.2 quadrillion
  ($1,200,000,000,000,000.00: ~GBP
2,100; USD 4,200) in a lottery  . It
also showed a monthly war pension currently is ZW$109 billion (GBP 0.37, USD
0.74), shops can only cash cheques if the customer writes double the amount,
because the cost will go up by the time the cheque has cleared, and people
can only withdraw a maximum of ZW$100 billion from cashpoints
 .[46]
 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of FromBuitenzorg
Sent: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:32 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini...Gedubraaak

 

Ah cape de, ada lagi di bawah ini si gdbrook punya 100 billion, IHSG 
nya bisa brak gedubaraakk hehehe.

gdbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am from Zimbabwe with 100 billion dollars wealth. I can hold share
> with that amount almost forever.
> It makes me suit to be your client.
> gdbrook
> 

[obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini

[Dharma Krisnadi]

To DE : berarti pernah maen King of Fighter juga dong  , 
 
Anyway, hampir semua fund gede pernah getok redemption lumayan taon ini. Anda 
gak kena redempt SF ?


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Intraday

[JsxTrader]

copet-copet keliatan mulai kerja tuh... hihihi.., 890 digerogotin
 JsxTrader 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[y_dizz]

Huh, sampe keringetan saya saking tegangnya liat menit2 akhir trading.

Close 1191, are we save now?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "y_dizz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kritis, pasukan BULL dikeroyok. Pak Arto, ammo please...!!
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase 
>  wrote:
> >
> > feeling sy yg mo cut loss besok di daerah 1205-1220an 
> > 
> > jsx_consultant  
> wrote: IHSG intraday update
> >  
> >  http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Puluhan Nasabah Bank Century Melapor

[y_dizz]

Puluhan Nasabah Bank Century Melapor

METROPOLIS - Jawa Pos

[ Selasa, 02 Desember 2008 ]

http://www.jawapos.com/metropolis/index.php?act=detail&nid=38668



SURABAYA - Penyidik Satuan Ekonomi Ditreskrim Polda Jatim bergerak cepat
untuk mengusut laporan penipuan dari nasabah Bank Century. Tadi malam
penyidik Polda Jatim memeriksa secara maraton sepuluh nasabah Bank
Century. Bahkan, hari ini penyidik menjadwalkan pemeriksaan sekitar 50
pelapor.

Sebelumnya, nasabah Bank Century yang dikoordinasi George Freddy melapor
ke Polda Jatim. Laporannya bernomor LPB/26/XII/2008/Biro Operasi
tertanggal 1 Desember 2008. Laporan tersebut diterima dan ditandatangani
Ipda Endang Narulita dari Polda Jatim. ''Ini sebenarnya laporan
kolektif. Tapi, untuk kemudahan administrasi, laporannya atas nama
saya," kata Freddy. 

Sebelum itu, anak George yang bernama George Maria Veronica melaporkan
dugaan pelanggaran pidana tersebut kepada Polda Jatim pada 27 November
lalu. Terlapor dalam laporan polisi No Pol LPB/715/XI/2008/Biro Operasi
tersebut adalah salah seorang direksi Bank Century. ''Ada sekitar 600
orang di Surabaya. Saya sendiri tertipu sekitar Rp 700 juta," kata
Maria. 

George mengatakan memiliki deposito Rp 20 miliar dan investasi di
reksadana Rp 8,7 miliar di bank tersebut. Setelah ada ramai-ramai kasus
Bank Century, status investasinya menjadi tak jelas. ''Kami minta
kepastian nasib uang saya. Bila ditotal, sepertinya dana yang tak jelas
bisa mencapai Rp 1 triliun lebih," tandasnya. 

Dugaan penipuan tersebut, lanjut dia, juga akan dilaporkan ke presiden,
Kapolri, Komisi XI DPR, dan Inspektur Pengawasan Umum (Irwasum). "Untuk
yang dugaan pelanggaran ketentuan perbankan, kami akan lapor ke Mabes
Polri," ungkapnya. (ano/luq/aan)





Bank yang satu ini kok gak henti2nya bikin masalah.

Apakah sudah segitu busuknya?

TANYA KENAPA?

[obrolan-bandar] Re: LOWEST IN DECEMBER

[y_dizz]

AMIN deh...

Asal hati2 aja, awal bulan belum berakhir lho, ini masih tanggal 2.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kidod25" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kalau besok ihsg ijo maka hari ini merupakan indeks terendah dalam 
bulan desember. Sejarah menunjukkan ihsg selalu lowest pada awal 
bulan desember sejak tahun 2001. Bubble dolar akan segera meletus in 
coming months...
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBRI & ISA

[ruzli]

2008/12/2, sulistyo_winarto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   Mbah, JT, widdhie, ALX, Senior OB...ma kasih berat... besok lagi ya.
> Salam
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Closing
> >
> > BBRI - ngga kuat balik ke 3150, ngga apa, beda-beda tipis.
> >
> Tapi Trading Range nya Lebar
>


   > PGAS - support 1810 solid !
> Yup, Setuju
>


   >
> > PTBA - support 6250 lumayan kuat meskipun sedikit meragukan
> >
> > BBCA - support 2600 solid !
> >
> > hari ini not bad lah.., smoga ntar malem ijo..
> Tambah 1 lagi:
>

INDF, Support 1880 SOLID



   >
> > Disclaimer
> >  Salam,
> > JsxTrader
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: PyRiEL PyRiEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 2:53:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
> >
> > avg up?
> > copet ngiler...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM, ruzli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Ayo, BBRI bikin IJO, biar Finance IJO semua ..
> >
> >
> > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Bingo  …, BBRI masuk 3150…, HOLD !!
> >
> > From:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
> On Behalf Of JsxTrader
> > Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:50
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
> >
> > BBRI - Harga pelan-pelan mau masuk kembali ke area 3150, kita lihat
> apakah kuat.., jika kuat, 3150 strong support…, dan anda bisa hold..,
> jika tidak, balik badan dulu. Disclaimer
> >
> > From:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ]
> On Behalf Of ruzli
> > Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:11
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
> >
> > Sepertinya memang akan DIJOROKIN.
> > Anyway Busway, Dow Fut di Bloomberg +, Strait Times agak Rebound
> dari Lowestnya.
> >
> >
> >
> > 2008/12/2, jsxtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Close dibawah 3150 aja harus exit..., cuma masalahnya keburu ngga..,
> > mungkin langsung dijorokin pagi-pagi biar semuanya kejepit..., kita
> > tunggu market stabil, baru ambil keputusan.
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> ruzli 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Boss JT
> > > Kalau BBRI Fall bellow 3000 today, Exit yah 
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/12/2, anru dadaq :
> > > >
> > > > barusan saya lihat candlenya bbri... emang bagus ya
> > > >
> > > > pa jt bisa aja :) oke tp berapa nih pa?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2008/12/2 anru dadaq 
> > > >
> > > >> dijamin kalau komandonya pak jt siapa takut
> > > >>
> > > >> 2008/12/1 JsxTrader 
> > > >>
> > > >> Scalper Only – let's swing !! 3150 done…, CL jika close
> > dibawah itu…,
> > > >>> jangan ikut-ikutan, HIGH RISK !! kecuali kalau kemarin sdh
> > short di atas…..
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> tidak DIJAMIN UNTUNG… hehehe
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Disclaimer.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> JsxTrader
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date:
> 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date:
> 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
> >
>
> 
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

[Felicia Rumondor]

Tarik nafas dulu pak yang dalam...,nyebut pak..nyebut...

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, G - MAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: G - MAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:40 PM








El – El, 
 
Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish…
 
Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut.
 
IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA – 679.
 
Regional juga merah.
 
 
Soal BUMI … hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana,
 
Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar.  Itu soalan duit yg geeed banget.
 
Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy
 
Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau 
 
Ngga usah di koar2 disini.  Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, itu yg gua 
yakin.
 
 
Gini aje deh El, 
 
Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu show?
 
Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara tepat.
 
Jng bilang ngga bisa.  The real BD bisa…. Itupun kalo lo orang semua kenal BD 
yg asli.
 
Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu guru kek, raja 
kek apa yg lu mao deh.
 
Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO.
 
Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu
 
 
Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / di puja2 
orang.
 
Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis tanpa pamrih, 
tanpa OMDO,
 
Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble aja tuh.
 
 
Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu…. 
 
Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya.
 
Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 – 2 T, kecil kan buat BD berkuasa 
kaya lu semua…
 
BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja.
 
BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 dukung.
 
 
Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk ngomong gede melulu. 
Ngga abis2 lagi.
 
Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak
 
Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu pada “BULLSHITTER”
 
 
SALAM SEBEL
 
G - MAN 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB

[Kevin Hogan]

TBumi kan Trub & Bumi. Just kidding pak

On 12/2/08, Herman Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TRUB dan BUMI favoritnya Pak TBumi , apa karena namanya mirip ya? Joke lho
> Pak, newsnya ditunggu .
> Barangkali sudah ada bocoran Q3.
> Tadi di loakan dijual 45.
>
> 2008/12/2 PyRiEL PyRiEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   saya beli tuh.. hihihi
>>
>> On 12/2/08, Kevin Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Simpen aja minimal 1 tahun. Jangan pasang offer karena juga ngak ada yg
>>> beli.
>>>
>>> 2008/12/2 Herman Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
Pak, Trubnya disimpan dulu saja, temannya juga sudah banyak yang
 gocapan.
 Saya juga pegang dan saya coba tahan setahun, mudah mudahan tidak di
 reverse.
 Tunggu Q3 nya belum keluar.



 2008/12/2 hd_chew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   Hi, pak T_Bumi, mau tanya ya bagaimana sebenarnya dengan Trub? kenapa
> makin hari offer makin tebal saja? jadi target2 yg pernah pak T_Bumi
> sampaikan sebelum lebaran tidak berlaku lagi ya pak? karena market
> tidak mendukung ya pak? tapi apakah nantinya bisa terjadi reverse
> stock and di delisting?? sorry tanyanya banyak, please jelasin sedikit
> ya pak, karena saya lihat sebelumnya anda yg paling mendukung untuk
> Trub ini jadi anda pasti sangat mengetahui apa sebenarnya yg sedang
> terjadi dgn emiten satu ini. Terima kasih .
>
>

>>>
>>
>>
>

[obrolan-bandar] Eropa Ijo

[y_dizz]

Yow yow yow, come on BULL...!!!

[obrolan-bandar] BBRI & ISAT

[sulistyo_winarto]

Mbah, JT, widdhie, ALX, Senior OB...ma kasih berat... besok lagi ya.
Salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Closing
> 
> BBRI - ngga kuat balik ke 3150, ngga apa, beda-beda tipis.
> 
> PGAS - support 1810 solid !
> 
> PTBA - support 6250 lumayan kuat meskipun sedikit meragukan
> 
> BBCA - support 2600 solid !
> 
> hari ini not bad lah.., smoga ntar malem ijo..
> 
> Disclaimer
>  Salam,
> JsxTrader 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: PyRiEL PyRiEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 2:53:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
> 
> avg up?
> copet ngiler...
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM, ruzli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Ayo, BBRI bikin IJO, biar Finance IJO semua ..
> 
> 
> 2008/12/2, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
> Bingo  …, BBRI masuk 3150…, HOLD !!
>  
> From:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader
> Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:50
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
>  
> BBRI - Harga pelan-pelan mau masuk kembali ke area 3150, kita lihat
apakah kuat.., jika kuat, 3150 strong support…, dan anda bisa hold..,
jika tidak, balik badan dulu. Disclaimer 
>  
> From:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ruzli
> Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:11
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
>  
> Sepertinya memang akan DIJOROKIN.
> Anyway Busway, Dow Fut di Bloomberg +, Strait Times agak Rebound
dari Lowestnya.
> 
> 
>  
> 2008/12/2, jsxtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
> Close dibawah 3150 aja harus exit..., cuma masalahnya keburu ngga.., 
> mungkin langsung dijorokin pagi-pagi biar semuanya kejepit..., kita 
> tunggu market stabil, baru ambil keputusan. 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli  
> wrote:
> >
> > Boss JT
> > Kalau BBRI Fall bellow 3000 today, Exit yah 
> > 
> > 
> > 2008/12/2, anru dadaq :
> > >
> > > barusan saya lihat candlenya bbri... emang bagus ya
> > >
> > > pa jt bisa aja :) oke tp berapa nih pa?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/12/2 anru dadaq 
> > >
> > >> dijamin kalau komandonya pak jt siapa takut
> > >>
> > >> 2008/12/1 JsxTrader 
> > >>
> > >> Scalper Only – let's swing !! 3150 done…, CL jika close 
> dibawah itu…,
> > >>> jangan ikut-ikutan, HIGH RISK !! kecuali kalau kemarin sdh 
> short di atas…..
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> tidak DIJAMIN UNTUNG… hehehe
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Disclaimer.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> JsxTrader
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > > 
> > >
> >
>  
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date:
12/1/2008 7:59 PM
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date:
12/1/2008 7:59 PM
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[Belajar Saham]

kalo bumi 700an gimana pada ngambil gak???





From: jsxtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:08:27 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


BBRI, kalau disiplin, harusnya tadi keluar dulu, target closing ngga 
tercapai, but that's ok, cuma beda gocap.., mungkin BD wants 
technical trader to get out. Berdoa aja ntar malem ijo.

JsxTrader

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, nyaham..dong@ ... wrote:
>
> Sy ikutan masuk juga pak JT. Kecil2an. Hehe
> BBRI masih boleh hold gak? Kelihatannya mengarah ke 3100-an nih
> 
> Regards,
> ND
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsxtrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ..>
> 
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:11:01 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
> 
> 
> Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
> trade..,hehe. ., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit. ..
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, nyaham.dong@ wrote:
> >
> > Pak JT,
> > Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "jsxtrader" 
> > 
> > Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
> > To: 
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
> > 
> > 
> > lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
> > area tembak tuh.. Berani??
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ruzli  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
> > > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
> > > 
> > > Regards
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader  :
> > > >
> > > >   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
> > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > > >
> > > >  - -
> > > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
> > > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
> > > > *To*: 
> > > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > > >
> > > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
> > > >
> > > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep 
> shit"
> > > >
> > > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc 
forget 
> it 
> > lah..
> > > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>   Pak Rei,
> > > >>> Let me give you some clues:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> > > >>> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
> > > >>> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> > > >>> Energy  : PGAS
> > > >>> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> > > >>> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
> > > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> > > >>> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau 
> > > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
> > > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> > > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> > > >>> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
> > > >>>
> > > >>> simple 'kan?!
> > > >>> he... he...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
> > > >>> milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
> > > >>>   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > 
> > >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities 
(specially 
> > energy and
> > >  agriculture products), property and had been working in 
some 
> > banking and
> > >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
> with 
> > business
> > >  diversities. * *I bought their stocks at really low price 
in 
> > past. And
> > >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
> > reach my target
> > >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
> > portfolio.
> > >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. 
I've 
> 3 
> > trader at 3
> > >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
> > accounts
> > >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
> > different method on
> > >  my 3 accounts. *
> > >  **
> > >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
> **What 
> > i'm
> > >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
> manner, 
> > i always buy
> > >  them if i know exactly what they are.. INFORMATION is 
> PRICELESS 
> > for me..
> > >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
> > FILTERING, and if
> > >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL 
and 
> > do some
> > >  valuation.*
> > >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm 
not 
> > good in TA
> > >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so 
much 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

[Elaine Sui]

*I said that YESTERFRICKINGDAY, you dumb ass. Read again.
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/122293

Elaine tidak pernah bilang bandar, artomoro bilang tangan bozz. Oentoeng
bilang teman bozz. Elaine hanya manage investor, cari uang dari account
investor institutional, including bakrie. Kalau Elaine hired by Bakrie, masa
dulu suruh jual.. bodoh. Bandar/bozz, that's a slang used by OBs, it has
nothing to do with me. To me bandar and traders are all the same. They tend
to fight with each other.

I have no problem with Artomoro or Oentoeng, what's got into you? had a bad
sex last night..? ^_^ cheer up man.

Elaine
**
*2008/12/2 G - MAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>El – El,
>
>
>
> Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish…
>
>
>
> Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut.
>
>
>
> IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA – 679.
>
>
>
> Regional juga merah.
>
>
>
>
>
> Soal BUMI … hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana,
>
>
>
> Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar.  Itu soalan duit yg geeed banget.
>
>
>
> Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy
>
>
>
> Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau
>
>
>
> Ngga usah di koar2 disini.  Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, itu yg
> gua yakin.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gini aje deh El,
>
>
>
> Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu show?
>
>
>
> Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara tepat.
>
>
>
> Jng bilang ngga bisa.  The real BD bisa…. Itupun kalo lo orang semua kenal
> BD yg asli.
>
>
>
> Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu guru kek,
> raja kek apa yg lu mao deh.
>
>
>
> Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO.
>
>
>
> Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu
>
>
>
>
>
> Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / di puja2
> orang.
>
>
>
> Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis tanpa pamrih,
> tanpa OMDO,
>
>
>
> Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble aja tuh.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu….
>
>
>
> Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya.
>
>
>
> Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 – 2 T, kecil kan buat BD
> berkuasa kaya lu semua…
>
>
>
> BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja.
>
>
>
> BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 dukung.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk ngomong gede
> melulu. Ngga abis2 lagi.
>
>
>
> Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak
>
>
>
> Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu pada "BULLSHITTER"
>
>
>
>
>
> SALAM SEBEL
>
>
>
> G - MAN
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] TRUB

[hd_chew]

Hi, pak T_Bumi, mau tanya ya bagaimana sebenarnya dengan Trub? kenapa
makin hari offer makin tebal saja? jadi target2 yg pernah pak T_Bumi
sampaikan sebelum lebaran tidak berlaku lagi ya pak? karena market
tidak mendukung ya pak? tapi apakah nantinya bisa terjadi reverse
stock and di delisting?? sorry tanyanya banyak, please jelasin sedikit
ya pak, karena saya lihat sebelumnya anda yg paling mendukung untuk
Trub ini jadi anda pasti sangat mengetahui apa sebenarnya yg sedang
terjadi dgn emiten satu ini. Terima kasih .

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[abdulrahim abdulrahim]

Apa urusannya sih orang pajak tau gw dapet duit dari mana bwat beli
kapal pesiar. Itu mah khan urusan polisi.

Dirjen Pajak terlalu sok pengen keliatan inovatif.
Kalau mau inovatif, tuh gimana caranya agar bawahannya gak
kongkalikong sama pengusaha2 nakal2.

==> yang sebel ama tukang palak

2008/12/2 sylar_fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> ... smua deposito/tabungan/saham memang harus dimasukkan kedalam
> SPT ... jd biar orang pajak tau kekayaaan kita pd stiap akhir taun
> pajak ... jd misalna kita tiba2 bisa beli kapal pesiar seharga 10
> milyar sedangkan penghasilan kita tidak memungkinkan hal tsb terjadi
> ya sumber dana na bisa dari deposito/tabungan/saham itu ...
>
> btw pd ikutan sunset policy gak ya ? ... ane msh bingung nih mesti
> ikutan gak ... btw laporan SPT tahun kmrn ane juga gak cantumin
> saham ane ... malesss 
>
> :)
>
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Deposito dan tabungan juga gak kena pajak lagi khan ya?
>> Tolong informasi dasar hukumnya atau landasannya mengapa deposito
> dan
>> tabungan udah gak kena pajak lagi.
>>
>> Kalau deviden gimana, berapa batas jumlah deviden yang terkena
> pajak?
>>
>> Kenapa sih yang udah kena pajak mesti dicantumin lagi di SPT?
>>
>> 2008/12/2 HALIM SUNARTO JAYA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Bung Jos
>> >
>> > Semua hasil dari saham aman, sdh dipotong pajak, laporkan saja
> spt tahuan
>> > anda, tidak akan kena pajak lagi,
>> > deposito dan tabungan juga, no problema.
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:05:53 PM
>> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham
>> >
>> > temen2 saya tanya ...
>> > Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
>> > atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah
> final?
>> > thx

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

[Kevin Hogan]

Jangan stress pak. Namanya juga saham, bisa naik bisa turun. Enjoy aja.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Felicia Rumondor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>   Tarik nafas dulu pak yang dalam...,nyebut pak...nyebut...
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, G - MAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: G - MAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:40 PM
>
>
>   El – El,
>
>
>
> Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish…
>
>
>
> Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut.
>
>
>
> IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA – 679.
>
>
>
> Regional juga merah.
>
>
>
>
>
> Soal BUMI … hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana,
>
>
>
> Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar.  Itu soalan duit yg geeed banget.
>
>
>
> Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy
>
>
>
> Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau
>
>
>
> Ngga usah di koar2 disini.  Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, itu yg
> gua yakin.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gini aje deh El,
>
>
>
> Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu show?
>
>
>
> Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara tepat.
>
>
>
> Jng bilang ngga bisa.  The real BD bisa…. Itupun kalo lo orang semua kenal
> BD yg asli.
>
>
>
> Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu guru kek,
> raja kek apa yg lu mao deh.
>
>
>
> Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO.
>
>
>
> Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu
>
>
>
>
>
> Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / di puja2
> orang.
>
>
>
> Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis tanpa pamrih,
> tanpa OMDO,
>
>
>
> Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble aja tuh.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu….
>
>
>
> Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya.
>
>
>
> Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 – 2 T, kecil kan buat BD
> berkuasa kaya lu semua…
>
>
>
> BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja.
>
>
>
> BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 dukung.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk ngomong gede
> melulu. Ngga abis2 lagi.
>
>
>
> Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak
>
>
>
> Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu pada "BULLSHITTER"
>
>
>
>
>
> SALAM SEBEL
>
>
>
> G - MAN
>
>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[Vincent Chase]

feeling sy yg mo cut loss besok di daerah 1205-1220an 

jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IHSG 
intraday update
 
 http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm
 
 
 
   

   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[HALIM SUNARTO JAYA]

Bung Jos

Semua hasil dari saham aman, sdh dipotong pajak, laporkan saja spt tahuan anda, 
tidak akan kena pajak lagi,
deposito dan tabungan juga, no problema.





From: JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:05:53 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham


temen2 saya tanya ...
Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
thx

 


  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] saham apa yg balik dlm bullish ?

[Vincent Chase]

trio kwek kwek?

tjetjun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: kalau dalam 3 
hari ke depan, saham2 akan naik, saham2 apa yg akan naik 
 dgn persentase paling ya ? tolong, saya mau masuk skrg
 
 thks
 
 
 
   

   

[obrolan-bandar] Making sense of WALL STREET

[Yuta Tiziano]

  Pak JsxTrader

Kenapa DOW sukar ditebak, salah satu alasannya ini.

If you have difficulty understanding the current world financial situation,
the following should help...

*

Once upon a time in a village in India , a man announced to the villagers
that he would buy monkeys for $10.

The villagers seeing there were many monkeys around, went out to the forest
and started catching them.*
*

The man bought thousands at $10, but, as the supply started to diminish, the
villagers stopped their efforts. The man further announced that he would now
buy at $20. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started
catching monkeys again.

Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back to
their farms. The offer rate increased to $25 and the supply of monkeys
became so little that it was an effort to even see a monkey, let alone catch
it!

The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50! However, since he
had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now act as
buyer, on his behalf.

In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers: ' Look at all
these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will sell them
to you at $35 and when he returns from the city, you can sell them back to
him for $50. '

The villagers squeezed together their savings and bought all the monkeys.

Then they never saw the man or his assistant again, only monkeys everywhere!
Welcome to WALL STREET.*

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Making sense of WALL STREET

[jsxtrader]

Baca cerita ini jadi inget Mr.LCY..., hehehe.., Btw DOW Fut dah plus 
cepek lebih, eropa ijo-ijo..., ahh, alangkah indahnya kalau ntar 
malem dow bisa +300. ngarepinbanget.co.id

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Yuta Tiziano" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Pak JsxTrader
> 
> Kenapa DOW sukar ditebak, salah satu alasannya ini.
> 
> If you have difficulty understanding the current world financial 
situation,
> the following should help...
> 
> *
> 
> Once upon a time in a village in India , a man announced to the 
villagers
> that he would buy monkeys for $10.
> 
> The villagers seeing there were many monkeys around, went out to 
the forest
> and started catching them.*
> *
> 
> The man bought thousands at $10, but, as the supply started to 
diminish, the
> villagers stopped their efforts. The man further announced that he 
would now
> buy at $20. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they 
started
> catching monkeys again.
> 
> Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going 
back to
> their farms. The offer rate increased to $25 and the supply of 
monkeys
> became so little that it was an effort to even see a monkey, let 
alone catch
> it!
> 
> The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50! However, 
since he
> had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now act 
as
> buyer, on his behalf.
> 
> In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers: ' Look 
at all
> these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will 
sell them
> to you at $35 and when he returns from the city, you can sell them 
back to
> him for $50. '
> 
> The villagers squeezed together their savings and bought all the 
monkeys.
> 
> Then they never saw the man or his assistant again, only monkeys 
everywhere!
> Welcome to WALL STREET.*
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[SyIFA Fund]

Nope Pak, I will never make such things exist for me, "they" will cacth me and 
send me to jail for not paying tax..hehehefor me "door to door" technique 
still much better...I love to play PS2with my friend...but we just play 
soccer. I'm not a big fund, but i'm not small too..hehehe
SOmetimes, i hope we can play PS2 together with MBah also...can you do that 
MBah?hehe
 
 
Regards,
 
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:00 AM






Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game "Tekken" di PS2, kalo penasaran 
sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe. .

Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan?

Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih 
profil/blog/ website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB 
banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar saran 
aja.

Regards,
DE


Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> menulis:







Wah...one of my fav give a statement... .welcome Pak DE. I just want to 
"wusssh" for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe. ..we're 
private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) 
Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. 

 
 
 
Regards,
 
 
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund


--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker  wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker 

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: "obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com" 
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM







wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 
buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz 
tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita 
gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh.

btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google 
engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi 
engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak 
penipuan sih.

Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 
kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka..

Regards,
DE


2008/12/2 Dick Q 



Sir,
Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih "warn" akan 
kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. 
Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong 
is going to be happened. :))
makanya saya bilang simpan aja "dalam dapur" kalau hanya ingin memberikan 
"warning" tanpa ada argumentasi 
yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. 
Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap 
berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. 
Saya tidak melihat itu suatu "rahasia", karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. 
Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama 
toh  
And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi 
client anda. 
Cheers,
 


- Original Message - 
From: SyIFA Fund 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 



Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini



 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[SyIFA Fund]

Nope Pak, I will never make such things exist for me, "they" will cacth me and 
send me to jail for not paying tax..hehehefor me "door to door" technique 
still much better...I love to play PS2with my friend...but we just play 
soccer. I'm not a big fund, but i'm not small too..hehehe
SOmetimes, i hope we can play PS2 together with MBah also...can you do that 
MBah?hehe
 
 
Regards,
 
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:00 AM






Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game "Tekken" di PS2, kalo penasaran 
sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe. .

Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan?

Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih 
profil/blog/ website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB 
banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar saran 
aja.

Regards,
DE


Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> menulis:







Wah...one of my fav give a statement... .welcome Pak DE. I just want to 
"wusssh" for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe. ..we're 
private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) 
Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. 

 
 
 
Regards,
 
 
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund


--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker  wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker  

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: "obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com" 
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM 







wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 
buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz 
tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita 
gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh.

btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google 
engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi 
engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak 
penipuan sih.

Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 
kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka..

Regards,
DE


2008/12/2 Dick Q 



Sir,
Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih "warn" akan 
kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. 
Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong 
is going to be happened. :))
makanya saya bilang simpan aja "dalam dapur" kalau hanya ingin memberikan 
"warning" tanpa ada argumentasi 
yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. 
Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap 
berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. 
Saya tidak melihat itu suatu "rahasia", karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. 
Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama 
toh  
And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi 
client anda. 
Cheers,
 


- Original Message - 
From: SyIFA Fund 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 



Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini



 














  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

[fuyi]

wih kok jadi panas... suabar... cukuplah ihsg yg membara... kita ambil ilmu
dari nyg mau bagi ilmu, yg humble but nggak perlun kale erosi ...yang nggak
bagi ilmu ya biarin aja hari ini udah mules-les, soalnya banyak
nyangkut.. smg esok hari nggak nyungsep lagi kayak saya..hari ini.

Pada 2 Desember 2008 20:40, G - MAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> menulis:

>El – El,
>
>
>
> Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish…
>
>
>
> Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut.
>
>
>
> IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA – 679.
>
>
>
> Regional juga merah.
>
>
>
>
>
> Soal BUMI … hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana,
>
>
>
> Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar.  Itu soalan duit yg geeed banget.
>
>
>
> Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy
>
>
>
> Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau
>
>
>
> Ngga usah di koar2 disini.  Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, itu yg
> gua yakin.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gini aje deh El,
>
>
>
> Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu show?
>
>
>
> Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara tepat.
>
>
>
> Jng bilang ngga bisa.  The real BD bisa…. Itupun kalo lo orang semua kenal
> BD yg asli.
>
>
>
> Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu guru kek,
> raja kek apa yg lu mao deh.
>
>
>
> Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO.
>
>
>
> Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu
>
>
>
>
>
> Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / di puja2
> orang.
>
>
>
> Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis tanpa pamrih,
> tanpa OMDO,
>
>
>
> Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble aja tuh.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu….
>
>
>
> Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya.
>
>
>
> Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 – 2 T, kecil kan buat BD
> berkuasa kaya lu semua…
>
>
>
> BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja.
>
>
>
> BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 dukung.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk ngomong gede
> melulu. Ngga abis2 lagi.
>
>
>
> Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak
>
>
>
> Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu pada "BULLSHITTER"
>
>
>
>
>
> SALAM SEBEL
>
>
>
> G - MAN
>
> 
>

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[obrolan-bandar] SILENT REBOND!!

[Kidod25]

saham-saham dibawah naik cukup besar hari ini dari lowest:
1. ISAT
2. PGAS
3. TINS
4. INCO

any comment?

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[y_dizz]

Kritis, pasukan BULL dikeroyok. Pak Arto, ammo please...!!


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> feeling sy yg mo cut loss besok di daerah 1205-1220an 
> 
> jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote: IHSG intraday update
>  
>  http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bank Sentral Australia memangkas suku bunganya sebesar 1%..

[cipto_jh]

Semoga aja pak, sebelum sektor riil terlanjur menjadi lesu darah, 1/4
juga lumayan, 1/2 apalagi.. :)

berharap.com 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "kusumo k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> minggu ini kan :))
> 
> 2008/12/2 cipto_jh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >   Bank Sentral Australia memangkas suku bunganya sebesar 1%..
> >
> > sumber: RTI (dari Kontan)
> >
> > Kapan ya Bank Indonesia mulai nurunin suku bunganya? knapa ya kita
> > beda sendiri? apa nunggu inflasi turun banget? atau jaga-in kurs IDR?
> >
> > Pola pikirnya gmana ya? padahal manteb bener klu penurunan inflasi MoM
> > November kemarin yg cuman 0,12%, plus penurunan premiun ber-subsidi
> > Rp.500,-/lt, bahan bakar industri juga, solar ber-subsidi juga bulan
> > depan, pan bisa jadi kado spesial tahun baru..
> >
> > Ngurangi beban perusahaan, biaya bunga pinjaman turun.. biaya
> > transportasi/pengangkutan turun, biaya produksi turun.. daripada kudu
> > mem-PHK pekerjanya hiks.. hiks.. jadi efek multiplier dech.. ke daya
> > beli masyarakat.. kena lagi ke perusahaan.. mbulet aja..
> >
> > wis ahh.. mbuhh.. yg diatas aja blum tentu mikirin.. yg ada pada sibuk
> > cari posisi aman buat April nanti.. mengkali..
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Klub saham gocap ( Rp 50 ,- )

[Elaine Sui]

*Bring it on. Partner. I have my own projection. ^_^ Elaine ada standy buyer
di 900 and 650. I don't really care about next month. All I care is the next
3-5 years. Ada harga 50 jadi 5000 in the next 3 years. Guess what it is!

Elaine

*
2008/12/2 y_dizz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   OH NO
>
> Saint Oentoeng is coming again.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Provokator Saham"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Dean Earwicker"
>
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Berikut listnya, saham yang harganya gocap (1 des 08), diurut dari
> > volume
> > > terbesar:
> > >
> > > Note: hari ini BTEL & BNBR masuk klub 50's (2 des 08)
> > >
> > > CODE PX VOL
> > > -
> > > BTEL 50 118447
> > > DEWA 50 88923
> > > MDLN 50 11037
> > > BNBR 50 10209
> > > TRUB 50 3496
> > > KIJA 50 1933
> > > SDRA 50 1500
> > > KOIN 50 916
> > > LCGP 50 502
> > > FORU 50 202
> > > INAF 50 165
> > > IGAR 50 130
> > > ASRI 50 127
> > > ESTI 50 100
> > > MITI 50 50
> > > KARK 50 40
> > > CNKO 50 20
> > > LMAS 50 1
> > > LPPF 50 0
> > > LPPS 50 0
> > > MAMI 50 0
> > > SIMA 50 0
> > > SIPD 50 0
> > > TIRT 50 0
> > > MLPL 50 0
> > > MYRX 50 0
> > > MYRXP 50 0
> > > MYTX 50 0
> > > POLY 50 0
> > > PTRA 50 0
> > > PYFA 50 0
> > > IATA 50 0
> > > FREN 50 0
> > > GSMF 50 0
> > > INPC 50 0
> > > JASS 50 0
> > > CTTH 50 0
> > > DGIK 50 0
> > > DSFI 50 0
> > > BCIC 50 0
> > > BEKS 50 0
> > > BIPP 50 0
> > > VRNA 50 0
> > > WICO 50 0
> > > ZBRA 50 0
> > > APLI 50 0
> > > AKKU 50 0
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > DE
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Just reminder...
> >
> > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/106534
> > 
> > Secara kiasan;
> > Sekarang ini kita beli saham pake duit 1 Milyar sama sekali tidak
> > ada artinya.
> > Laksana menggarami samudra...
> > Pada saatnya nanti dengan duit 100 Juta investor sudah dapat
> > memborong saham segudang!?
> > 
> >
> > Padahal saat itu BEI masih di 18xx, yang katanye "sudah murah",
> karena
> > sudah turun 1000 POINT from the TOP...
> > Emangnya ke depan tidak akan nambah lagi?
> >
> > Sorry...lagi minus gini nggak kuat nahan diri utk tdk ikut nimbrung.
> > Jangan diartikan FEAR telah datang...
> > Kekekekek
> >
>
>  
>
<>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[Budi Rianto]

Saya sempat googling beberapa waktu yg lalu. Ternyata capital gain yg didapat 
dari transaksi saham yg terdaftar, tidak dipungut pajak lagi. pajaknya telah 
disatukan dengan biaya transaksi. Jadi, rugi atau untung kita telah bayar 
pajak.  
Dapet referensi disini : http://www.pajak2000.com/news_print.php?id=376 
CMIIW.





From: JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:05:53 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham


temen2 saya tanya ...
Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
thx




  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[nyaham . dong]

Sy ikutan masuk juga pak JT. Kecil2an. Hehe
BBRI masih boleh hold gak? Kelihatannya mengarah ke 3100-an nih

Regards,
ND
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-Original Message-
From: "jsxtrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:11:01 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini


Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Pak JT,
> Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsxtrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
> 
> 
> lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
> area tembak tuh.. Berani??
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli  
> wrote:
> >
> > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
> > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > 
> > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader :
> > >
> > >   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
> > >
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > >
> > > --
> > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
> > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
> > > *To*: 
> > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > >
> > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
> > >
> > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep 
shit"
> > >
> > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc forget 
it 
> lah..
> > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>   Pak Rei,
> > >>> Let me give you some clues:
> > >>>
> > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> > >>> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
> > >>> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> > >>> Energy  : PGAS
> > >>> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> > >>> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
> > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> > >>> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> > >>>
> > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
> > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> > >>> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
> > >>>
> > >>> simple 'kan?!
> > >>> he... he...
> > >>>
> > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
> > >>> milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
> > >>>   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > 
> >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
> energy and
> >  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
> banking and
> >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
with 
> business
> >  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
> past. And
> >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
> reach my target
> >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
> portfolio.
> >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 
3 
> trader at 3
> >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
> accounts
> >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
> different method on
> >  my 3 accounts. *
> >  **
> >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
**What 
> i'm
> >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
manner, 
> i always buy
> >  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
PRICELESS 
> for me..
> >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
> FILTERING, and if
> >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
> do some
> >  valuation.*
> >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
> good in TA
> >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
> for MBah, Pak
> >  JT, EL, and others).*
> >  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
> Thank you
> >  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
> >  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
> >  DAPUR"HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
> >  **
> >  *Luv u all,*
> >  **
> >  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
> >  **
> >  **
> >  **
> >  *Regards,*
> >  **
> >  *SF FM*
> >   *Where you can trust your fund*
> > 
> >  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei * wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Rei 
> >  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> >  Cc: syifa.fund@
> >  Date: Tuesday

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[Vincent Chase]

waduh gak nyangka sy dapet indf di 880,padahal kemaren kompor kompor dah pada 
nyala... 

jsxtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pasukan copet 
mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
 trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 >
 > Pak JT,
 > Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
 > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
 > 
 > -Original Message-
 > From: "jsxtrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > 
 > Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
 > To: 
 > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
 > 
 > 
 > lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
 > area tembak tuh.. Berani??
 > 
 > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli  
 > wrote:
 > >
 > > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
 > > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
 > > 
 > > Regards
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader :
 > > >
 > > >   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
 > > >
 > > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
 > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 > > >
 > > > --
 > > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
 > > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
 > > > *To*: 
 > > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 > > >
 > > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
 > > >
 > > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep 
 shit"
 > > >
 > > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc forget 
 it 
 > lah..
 > > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
 > > >
 > > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
 > > >>
 > > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
 > wrote:
 > > >>
 > > >>>   Pak Rei,
 > > >>> Let me give you some clues:
 > > >>>
 > > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
 > > >>> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
 > > >>> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
 > > >>> Energy  : PGAS
 > > >>> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
 > > >>> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
 > > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
 > > >>> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
 > > >>>
 > > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
 > > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
 > > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
 > > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
 > > >>> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
 > > >>>
 > > >>> simple 'kan?!
 > > >>> he... he...
 > > >>>
 > > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
 > > >>> milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
 > > >>>   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
 > wrote:
 > > >>>
 > > >>>
 > > 
 > >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
 > energy and
 > >  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
 > banking and
 > >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
 with 
 > business
 > >  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
 > past. And
 > >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
 > reach my target
 > >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
 > portfolio.
 > >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 
 3 
 > trader at 3
 > >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
 > accounts
 > >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
 > different method on
 > >  my 3 accounts. *
 > >  **
 > >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
 **What 
 > i'm
 > >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
 manner, 
 > i always buy
 > >  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
 PRICELESS 
 > for me..
 > >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
 > FILTERING, and if
 > >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
 > do some
 > >  valuation.*
 > >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
 > good in TA
 > >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
 > for MBah, Pak
 > >  JT, EL, and others).*
 > >  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
 > Thank you
 > >  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
 > >  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
 > >  DAPUR"HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
 > >  **
 > >  *Luv u all,*
 > >  **
 > >  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
 > >  **
 > >  **
 > >  **
 > >  *Regards,*
 > >  **
 > >  *SF FM*
 > >   *Where you can trust your fund*
 > > 
 > >  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei * wrote:
 > > 
 > > 
 > >  From: Rei 
 > >  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
 > >  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 > > 
 > >  Cc: syifa.fund@
 > >  Date: T

PGAS + BBRI + PTBA + BBCA Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI

[JsxTrader]

Closing

BBRI - ngga kuat balik ke 3150, ngga apa, beda-beda tipis.

PGAS - support 1810 solid !

PTBA - support 6250 lumayan kuat meskipun sedikit meragukan

BBCA - support 2600 solid !

hari ini not bad lah.., smoga ntar malem ijo..

Disclaimer
 Salam,
JsxTrader 





From: PyRiEL PyRiEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 2:53:13 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI

avg up?
copet ngiler...


On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM, ruzli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ayo, BBRI bikin IJO, biar Finance IJO semua ..


2008/12/2, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
Bingo  …, BBRI masuk 3150…, HOLD !!
 
From:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
JsxTrader
Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:50
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
 
BBRI - Harga pelan-pelan mau masuk kembali ke area 3150, kita lihat apakah 
kuat.., jika kuat, 3150 strong support…, dan anda bisa hold.., jika tidak, 
balik badan dulu. Disclaimer 
 
From:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ruzli
Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:11
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
 
Sepertinya memang akan DIJOROKIN.
Anyway Busway, Dow Fut di Bloomberg +, Strait Times agak Rebound dari Lowestnya.


 
2008/12/2, jsxtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
Close dibawah 3150 aja harus exit..., cuma masalahnya keburu ngga.., 
mungkin langsung dijorokin pagi-pagi biar semuanya kejepit..., kita 
tunggu market stabil, baru ambil keputusan. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Boss JT
> Kalau BBRI Fall bellow 3000 today, Exit yah 
> 
> 
> 2008/12/2, anru dadaq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > barusan saya lihat candlenya bbri... emang bagus ya
> >
> > pa jt bisa aja :) oke tp berapa nih pa?
> >
> >
> > 2008/12/2 anru dadaq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> dijamin kalau komandonya pak jt siapa takut
> >>
> >> 2008/12/1 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> Scalper Only – let's swing !! 3150 done…, CL jika close 
dibawah itu…,
> >>> jangan ikut-ikutan, HIGH RISK !! kecuali kalau kemarin sdh 
short di atas…..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> tidak DIJAMIN UNTUNG… hehehe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Disclaimer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> JsxTrader
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> > 
> >
>
 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[SyIFA Fund]

Nope Pak, I will never make such things exist for me, "they" will cacth me and 
send me to jail for not paying tax..hehehefor me "door to door" technique 
still much better...I love to play PS2with my friend...but we just play 
soccer. I'm not a big fund, but i'm not small too..hehehe
SOmetimes, i hope we can play PS2 together with MBah also...can you do that 
MBah?hehe
 
 
Regards,
 
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:00 AM






Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game "Tekken" di PS2, kalo penasaran 
sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe. .

Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan?

Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih 
profil/blog/ website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB 
banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar saran 
aja.

Regards,
DE


Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> menulis:







Wah...one of my fav give a statement... .welcome Pak DE. I just want to 
"wusssh" for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe. ..we're 
private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) 
Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. 

 
 
 
Regards,
 
 
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund


--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker  wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker  

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: "obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com" 
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM 







wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 
buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz 
tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita 
gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh.

btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google 
engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi 
engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak 
penipuan sih.

Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 
kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka..

Regards,
DE


2008/12/2 Dick Q 



Sir,
Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih "warn" akan 
kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. 
Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong 
is going to be happened. :))
makanya saya bilang simpan aja "dalam dapur" kalau hanya ingin memberikan 
"warning" tanpa ada argumentasi 
yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. 
Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap 
berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. 
Saya tidak melihat itu suatu "rahasia", karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. 
Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama 
toh  
And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi 
client anda. 
Cheers,
 


- Original Message - 
From: SyIFA Fund 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 



Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini



 














  

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Klub saham gocap ( Rp 50 ,- )

[y_dizz]

OH NO

Saint Oentoeng is coming again.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Provokator Saham" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Berikut listnya, saham yang harganya gocap (1 des 08), diurut dari
> volume
> > terbesar:
> > 
> > Note: hari ini BTEL & BNBR masuk klub 50's (2 des 08)
> > 
> > CODEPXVOL
> > -
> > BTEL50118447
> > DEWA5088923
> > MDLN5011037
> > BNBR5010209
> > TRUB503496
> > KIJA501933
> > SDRA501500
> > KOIN50916
> > LCGP50502
> > FORU50202
> > INAF50165
> > IGAR50130
> > ASRI50127
> > ESTI50100
> > MITI5050
> > KARK5040
> > CNKO5020
> > LMAS501
> > LPPF500
> > LPPS500
> > MAMI500
> > SIMA500
> > SIPD500
> > TIRT500
> > MLPL500
> > MYRX500
> > MYRXP   500
> > MYTX500
> > POLY500
> > PTRA500
> > PYFA500
> > IATA500
> > FREN500
> > GSMF500
> > INPC500
> > JASS500
> > CTTH500
> > DGIK500
> > DSFI500
> > BCIC500
> > BEKS500
> > BIPP500
> > VRNA500
> > WICO500
> > ZBRA500
> > APLI500
> > AKKU500
> > 
> > Regards,
> > DE
> > 
> > 
> 
> Just reminder...
> 
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/106534
> 
> Secara kiasan;
> Sekarang ini kita beli saham pake duit 1 Milyar sama sekali tidak
> ada artinya.
> Laksana menggarami samudra...
> Pada saatnya nanti dengan duit 100 Juta investor sudah dapat
> memborong saham segudang!?
> 
> 
> Padahal saat itu BEI masih di 18xx, yang katanye "sudah murah", 
karena
> sudah turun 1000 POINT from the TOP...
> Emangnya ke depan tidak akan nambah lagi?
> 
> Sorry...lagi minus gini nggak kuat nahan diri utk tdk ikut nimbrung.
> Jangan diartikan FEAR telah datang...
> Kekekekek
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[FromBuitenzorg]

... beli merah jual merah, tapi dengan posisi merah lower neagatif 
masih bisa gain juga :)

Rgrds

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[SyIFA Fund]

Nope Pak, I will never make such things exist for me, "they" will cacth me and 
send me to jail for not paying tax..hehehefor me "door to door" technique 
still much better...I love to play PS2with my friend...but we just play 
soccer. I'm not a big fund, but i'm not small too..hehehe
SOmetimes, i hope we can play PS2 together with MBah also...can you do that 
MBah?hehe
 
 
Regards,
 
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund

--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:00 AM






Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game "Tekken" di PS2, kalo penasaran 
sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe. .

Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan?

Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih 
profil/blog/ website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB 
banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar saran 
aja.

Regards,
DE


Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> menulis:







Wah...one of my fav give a statement... .welcome Pak DE. I just want to 
"wusssh" for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe. ..we're 
private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) 
Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. 

 
 
 
Regards,
 
 
 
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund


--- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker  wrote:

From: Dean Earwicker  

Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
To: "obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com" 
Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM 







wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 
buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz 
tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita 
gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh.

btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google 
engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi 
engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak 
penipuan sih.

Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 
kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka..

Regards,
DE


2008/12/2 Dick Q 



Sir,
Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih "warn" akan 
kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. 
Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong 
is going to be happened. :))
makanya saya bilang simpan aja "dalam dapur" kalau hanya ingin memberikan 
"warning" tanpa ada argumentasi 
yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. 
Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap 
berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. 
Saya tidak melihat itu suatu "rahasia", karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. 
Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama 
toh  
And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi 
client anda. 
Cheers,
 


- Original Message - 
From: SyIFA Fund 
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 



Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini



 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[riil_investor]

Final, kalau rugipun kita juga kena pajak khan?

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-Original Message-
From: "JOsh WaiKIKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:05:53 
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham


temen2 saya tanya ...
Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
thx

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB

[PyRiEL PyRiEL]

saya beli tuh.. hihihi

On 12/2/08, Kevin Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Simpen aja minimal 1 tahun. Jangan pasang offer karena juga ngak ada yg
> beli.
>
> 2008/12/2 Herman Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   Pak, Trubnya disimpan dulu saja, temannya juga sudah banyak yang
>> gocapan.
>> Saya juga pegang dan saya coba tahan setahun, mudah mudahan tidak di
>> reverse.
>> Tunggu Q3 nya belum keluar.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/12/2 hd_chew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>>   Hi, pak T_Bumi, mau tanya ya bagaimana sebenarnya dengan Trub? kenapa
>>> makin hari offer makin tebal saja? jadi target2 yg pernah pak T_Bumi
>>> sampaikan sebelum lebaran tidak berlaku lagi ya pak? karena market
>>> tidak mendukung ya pak? tapi apakah nantinya bisa terjadi reverse
>>> stock and di delisting?? sorry tanyanya banyak, please jelasin sedikit
>>> ya pak, karena saya lihat sebelumnya anda yg paling mendukung untuk
>>> Trub ini jadi anda pasti sangat mengetahui apa sebenarnya yg sedang
>>> terjadi dgn emiten satu ini. Terima kasih .
>>>
>>>
>>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] LOWEST IN DECEMBER

[Kidod25]

Kalau besok ihsg ijo maka hari ini merupakan indeks terendah dalam bulan 
desember. Sejarah menunjukkan ihsg selalu lowest pada awal bulan desember sejak 
tahun 2001. Bubble dolar akan segera meletus in coming months...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB

[re...@trade]

Ane jg, investasi deh buat biaya kuliah anak ;) asal ga bangkrut aja 
hehehheehe...

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-Original Message-
From: "PyRiEL PyRiEL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 18:53:56 
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB


saya beli tuh.. hihihi

On 12/2/08, Kevin Hogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Simpen aja minimal 1 tahun. Jangan pasang offer karena juga ngak ada yg
> beli.
>
> 2008/12/2 Herman Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   Pak, Trubnya disimpan dulu saja, temannya juga sudah banyak yang
>> gocapan.
>> Saya juga pegang dan saya coba tahan setahun, mudah mudahan tidak di
>> reverse.
>> Tunggu Q3 nya belum keluar.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/12/2 hd_chew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>>   Hi, pak T_Bumi, mau tanya ya bagaimana sebenarnya dengan Trub? kenapa
>>> makin hari offer makin tebal saja? jadi target2 yg pernah pak T_Bumi
>>> sampaikan sebelum lebaran tidak berlaku lagi ya pak? karena market
>>> tidak mendukung ya pak? tapi apakah nantinya bisa terjadi reverse
>>> stock and di delisting?? sorry tanyanya banyak, please jelasin sedikit
>>> ya pak, karena saya lihat sebelumnya anda yg paling mendukung untuk
>>> Trub ini jadi anda pasti sangat mengetahui apa sebenarnya yg sedang
>>> terjadi dgn emiten satu ini. Terima kasih .
>>>
>>>
>>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini

[fifi young]

Nope,
I'm just an ugly, horrible looking old nanny...
who tried to pick up some coins and pennies in the stock market...

If you would accept me as an exceptional client with only
coins and pennies to invest,
perhaps you could make it into BILLIONS...?



On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   *Thanks Bu Fifi, *
> **
> *Hey...I'm watching Bloomberg TV and seeing a beautiful girl in blue
> dressis that you? :)*
> **
> *Good Point; BUT some of commodities, com metal, agriculture, banking and
> optional are not in mine. Infrastructure stocks are no longer included in my
> portfolio (long time ago YES).*
> **
> *Happy cuan for all. I'm sure that MBah and Pak JT suggestion are enough
> for you because sometimes I follow them but not in other times (if we are
> not in the same page).*
> **
> *I don't want to add more disputes in this mailist because i love this
> mailist so much. Enjoy the 2nd session to you all. May God strengthen your
> will. *
> **
> **
> *My Apologize to MBah and others today; I'm so sorry to make inconvenience
> situation on mailist. I'm just human with emotion. :)*
> **
> **
> *Regards,*
> **
> *SF FM*
> *Where you can trust your fund*
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: fifi young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:41 AM
>
>
>  Pak Rei,
> Let me give you some clues:
>
> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> Energy  : PGAS
> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
>
> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> Tinggal pilih aja
> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. ..
>
> simple 'kan?!
> he... he...
>
> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... ..,
> milis OB B U B A R  dech...
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and
>> agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and
>> also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business
>> diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And
>> always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach my target
>> price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's
>> my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3
>> different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 accounts what
>> should i do to be a good investor, because i used different method on my 3
>> accounts. *
>> **
>> *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. **What i'm trying
>> to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if
>> i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me..
>> So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if
>> possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some
>> valuation.*
>> *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so
>> I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT,
>> EL, and others).*
>> *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you
>> very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
>> *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
>> DAPUR".HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
>> **
>> *Luv u all,*
>> **
>> *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
>> **
>> **
>> **
>> *Regards,*
>> **
>> *SF FM*
>>  *Where you can trust your fund*
>> --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei 
>> >* wrote:
>>
>> From: Rei >
>> Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
>> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
>> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
>>
>>
>>   I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
>> Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL 
>> PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> *Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that
>>> some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not joking..I'm
>>> telling you> remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to
>>> sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm
>>> just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the undervalued
>>> one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send WARNING if
>>> something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at some of my
>>> post. A

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[tjetjun]

KZ dan BK lagi marah, indf katanya mulai buy back dari desember ya ? 
tau2nya gak muncul2. jadi dikiranya nanti spt bumi, gak jadi buy 
back.. marah tuh

thks

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> waduh gak nyangka sy dapet indf di 880,padahal kemaren kompor 
kompor dah pada nyala... 
> 
> jsxtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
>  trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...
>  
>  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, nyaham.dong@ wrote:
>  >
>  > Pak JT,
>  > Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
>  > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>  > 
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: "jsxtrader" 
>  > 
>  > Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
>  > To: 
>  > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
>  > 
>  > 
>  > lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf 
masuk 
>  > area tembak tuh.. Berani??
>  > 
>  > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli  
>  > wrote:
>  > >
>  > > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
>  > > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
>  > > 
>  > > Regards
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader :
>  > > >
>  > > >   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
>  > > >
>  > > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
>  > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>  > > >
>  > > > --
>  > > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
>  > > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
>  > > > *To*: 
>  > > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
>  > > >
>  > > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
>  > > >
>  > > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep 
>  shit"
>  > > >
>  > > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc 
forget 
>  it 
>  > lah..
>  > > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > >
>  > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
>  > > >>
>  > > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
>  > wrote:
>  > > >>
>  > > >>>   Pak Rei,
>  > > >>> Let me give you some clues:
>  > > >>>
>  > > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
>  > > >>> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
>  > > >>> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
>  > > >>> Energy  : PGAS
>  > > >>> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
>  > > >>> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
>  > > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
>  > > >>> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
>  > > >>>
>  > > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
>  > > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
>  > > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
>  > > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
>  > > >>> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
>  > > >>>
>  > > >>> simple 'kan?!
>  > > >>> he... he...
>  > > >>>
>  > > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
>  > > >>> milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
>  > > >>>   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
>  > wrote:
>  > > >>>
>  > > >>>
>  > > 
>  > >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities 
(specially 
>  > energy and
>  > >  agriculture products), property and had been working in 
some 
>  > banking and
>  > >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
>  with 
>  > business
>  > >  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price 
in 
>  > past. And
>  > >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
>  > reach my target
>  > >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
>  > portfolio.
>  > >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. 
I've 
>  3 
>  > trader at 3
>  > >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 
3 
>  > accounts
>  > >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
>  > different method on
>  > >  my 3 accounts. *
>  > >  **
>  > >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
>  **What 
>  > i'm
>  > >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
>  manner, 
>  > i always buy
>  > >  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
>  PRICELESS 
>  > for me..
>  > >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
>  > FILTERING, and if
>  > >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL 
and 
>  > do some
>  > >  valuation.*
>  > >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm 
not 
>  > good in TA
>  > >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so 
much 
>  > for MBah, Pak
>  > >  JT, EL, and others).*
>  > >  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist 
member. 
>  > Thank you
>  > >  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
>  > >  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio 
("RAHASIA
>  > >  DAPUR"HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TRUB

[Kevin Hogan]

Simpen aja minimal 1 tahun. Jangan pasang offer karena juga ngak ada yg
beli.

2008/12/2 Herman Tobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   Pak, Trubnya disimpan dulu saja, temannya juga sudah banyak yang
> gocapan.
> Saya juga pegang dan saya coba tahan setahun, mudah mudahan tidak di
> reverse.
> Tunggu Q3 nya belum keluar.
>
>
>
> 2008/12/2 hd_chew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   Hi, pak T_Bumi, mau tanya ya bagaimana sebenarnya dengan Trub? kenapa
>> makin hari offer makin tebal saja? jadi target2 yg pernah pak T_Bumi
>> sampaikan sebelum lebaran tidak berlaku lagi ya pak? karena market
>> tidak mendukung ya pak? tapi apakah nantinya bisa terjadi reverse
>> stock and di delisting?? sorry tanyanya banyak, please jelasin sedikit
>> ya pak, karena saya lihat sebelumnya anda yg paling mendukung untuk
>> Trub ini jadi anda pasti sangat mengetahui apa sebenarnya yg sedang
>> terjadi dgn emiten satu ini. Terima kasih .
>>
>>
>  
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI

[Win]

ketahan neh...


On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:53 PM, PyRiEL PyRiEL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>   avg up?
> copet ngiler...
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:20 AM, ruzli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>   Ayo, BBRI bikin IJO, biar Finance IJO semua ..
>>
>> 2008/12/2, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>>Bingo  …, BBRI masuk 3150…, HOLD !!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader
>>> *Sent:* 02 Desember 2008 10:50
>>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> BBRI - Harga pelan-pelan mau masuk kembali ke area 3150, kita lihat
>>> apakah kuat.., jika kuat, 3150 strong support…, dan anda bisa hold.., jika
>>> tidak, balik badan dulu. Disclaimer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *ruzli
>>> *Sent:* 02 Desember 2008 9:11
>>> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBRI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sepertinya memang akan DIJOROKIN.
>>>
>>> Anyway Busway, Dow Fut di Bloomberg +, Strait Times agak Rebound dari
>>> Lowestnya.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/12/2, jsxtrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>
>>> Close dibawah 3150 aja harus exit..., cuma masalahnya keburu ngga..,
>>> mungkin langsung dijorokin pagi-pagi biar semuanya kejepit..., kita
>>> tunggu market stabil, baru ambil keputusan.
>>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
>>> ruzli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Boss JT
>>> > Kalau BBRI Fall bellow 3000 today, Exit yah 
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2008/12/2, anru dadaq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> > >
>>> > > barusan saya lihat candlenya bbri... emang bagus ya
>>> > >
>>> > > pa jt bisa aja :) oke tp berapa nih pa?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > 2008/12/2 anru dadaq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >
>>> > >> dijamin kalau komandonya pak jt siapa takut
>>> > >>
>>> > >> 2008/12/1 JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Scalper Only – let's swing !! 3150 done…, CL jika close
>>> dibawah itu…,
>>> > >>> jangan ikut-ikutan, HIGH RISK !! kecuali kalau kemarin sdh
>>> short di atas…..
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> tidak DIJAMIN UNTUNG… hehehe
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Disclaimer.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> JsxTrader
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date:
>>> 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date:
>>> 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
>>>
>>>
>>
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[jsxtrader]

Pasukan copet mulai bekerja di indf..., terdeteksi di running 
trade..,hehe.., 890-900 mulai digerogotin sikit-sikit...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Pak JT,
> Volume di indf gimana? Apa masih normal atau meningkat ya? 
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsxtrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:46:24 
> To: 
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini
> 
> 
> lah kita minta diskon dong..., jangan main tubruk aja, indf masuk 
> area tembak tuh.. Berani??
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ruzli  
> wrote:
> >
> > Boss JT, bukannya BBCA sudah kemahalan ?
> > Kalau dikasih 2400an sy ikut nongkrong jg deh :)
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > 
> > 2008/12/2, JsxTrader :
> > >
> > >   Kalo bbca gimana boss?? Ane naksir nih..
> > >
> > > Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
> > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
> > >
> > > --
> > > *From*: "Halim Mintareja"
> > > *Date*: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0700
> > > *To*: 
> > > *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> > >
> > > sekedar saya tambahkan aja..
> > >
> > > kalau banking di indo..cari yang yang LK-nya sudah "in deep 
shit"
> > >
> > > kalau LK masih show "baik-baik aja" model BBRI BMRI etc forget 
it 
> lah..
> > > .risk vs reward gak sebanding
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Rei  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Wah bu Fifi sdh bisa jadi senior OB nih hehehe
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:41 PM, fifi young 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>   Pak Rei,
> > >>> Let me give you some clues:
> > >>>
> > >>> Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC
> > >>> Com Metal: ANTM, TINS, INCO
> > >>> Agriculture: AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP
> > >>> Energy  : PGAS
> > >>> Banking: BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN
> > >>> Infra Structure   : TLKM, ISAT
> > >>> Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF
> > >>> Optional: ASII, UNTR, HEXA
> > >>>
> > >>> Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ...
> > >>> Tinggal pilih aja...
> > >>> Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur..
> > >>> "BUY" disaat market berdarah-darah,
> > >>> lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak
> > >>>
> > >>> simple 'kan?!
> > >>> he... he...
> > >>>
> > >>> Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur.,
> > >>> milis OB... B U B A R  dech...
> > >>>   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund 
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > 
> >  *Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially 
> energy and
> >  agriculture products), property and had been working in some 
> banking and
> >  also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives 
with 
> business
> >  diversities.* *I bought their stocks at really low price in 
> past. And
> >  always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they 
> reach my target
> >  price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my 
> portfolio.
> >  It's my "RAHASIA DAPUR". No one knows except my trader. I've 
3 
> trader at 3
> >  different brokerage firms. and i learned so much from my 3 
> accounts
> >  what should i do to be a good investor, because i used 
> different method on
> >  my 3 accounts. *
> >  **
> >  *Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. 
**What 
> i'm
> >  trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative 
manner, 
> i always buy
> >  them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is 
PRICELESS 
> for me..
> >  So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do 
> FILTERING, and if
> >  possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and 
> do some
> >  valuation.*
> >  *For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not 
> good in TA
> >  so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much 
> for MBah, Pak
> >  JT, EL, and others).*
> >  *Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. 
> Thank you
> >  very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. *
> >  *For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio ("RAHASIA
> >  DAPUR"HEHE..BUKAN "RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR" YA?).*
> >  **
> >  *Luv u all,*
> >  **
> >  *PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it.*
> >  **
> >  **
> >  **
> >  *Regards,*
> >  **
> >  *SF FM*
> >   *Where you can trust your fund*
> > 
> >  --- On *Tue, 12/2/08, Rei * wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Rei 
> >  Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
> >  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> >  Cc: syifa.fund@
> >  Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM
> > 
> > 
> >    I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir...
> >  Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com
> >  > wrote:
> > 
> >

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Klub saham gocap ( Rp 50 ,- )

[Provokator Saham]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Dean Earwicker"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Berikut listnya, saham yang harganya gocap (1 des 08), diurut dari
volume
> terbesar:
> 
> Note: hari ini BTEL & BNBR masuk klub 50's (2 des 08)
> 
> CODEPXVOL
> -
> BTEL50118447
> DEWA5088923
> MDLN5011037
> BNBR5010209
> TRUB503496
> KIJA501933
> SDRA501500
> KOIN50916
> LCGP50502
> FORU50202
> INAF50165
> IGAR50130
> ASRI50127
> ESTI50100
> MITI5050
> KARK5040
> CNKO5020
> LMAS501
> LPPF500
> LPPS500
> MAMI500
> SIMA500
> SIPD500
> TIRT500
> MLPL500
> MYRX500
> MYRXP   500
> MYTX500
> POLY500
> PTRA500
> PYFA500
> IATA500
> FREN500
> GSMF500
> INPC500
> JASS500
> CTTH500
> DGIK500
> DSFI500
> BCIC500
> BEKS500
> BIPP500
> VRNA500
> WICO500
> ZBRA500
> APLI500
> AKKU500
> 
> Regards,
> DE
> 
> 

Just reminder...

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/106534

Secara kiasan;
Sekarang ini kita beli saham pake duit 1 Milyar sama sekali tidak
ada artinya.
Laksana menggarami samudra...
Pada saatnya nanti dengan duit 100 Juta investor sudah dapat
memborong saham segudang!?


Padahal saat itu BEI masih di 18xx, yang katanye "sudah murah", karena
sudah turun 1000 POINT from the TOP...
Emangnya ke depan tidak akan nambah lagi?

Sorry...lagi minus gini nggak kuat nahan diri utk tdk ikut nimbrung.
Jangan diartikan FEAR telah datang...
Kekekekek

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini

[poetra]

1185 untuk hari ini mbah? Sekiranya baru jebol besok (tidak lebih tinggi
dari hari ini) apakah uptrend berakhir? Berarti lpkr sudah bisa jadi
patokan lagi  mbah :)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> IHSG intraday update
>
> http://obrolanbandar.com/piwuptrend.htm
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Klub saham gocap ( Rp 50 ,- )

[Herman Tobing]

TRUB  deh

2008/12/2 Elaine Sui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> *Bring it on. Partner. I have my own projection. ^_^ Elaine ada standy
> buyer di 900 and 650. I don't really care about next month. All I care is
> the next 3-5 years. Ada harga 50 jadi 5000 in the next 3 years. Guess what
> it is!
>
> Elaine
>
> *
>  2008/12/2 y_dizz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   OH NO
>>
>>
>> Saint Oentoeng is coming again.
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
>> "Provokator Saham"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>> "Dean Earwicker"
>>
>>
>> >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Berikut listnya, saham yang harganya gocap (1 des 08), diurut dari
>> > volume
>> > > terbesar:
>> > >
>> > > Note: hari ini BTEL & BNBR masuk klub 50's (2 des 08)
>> > >
>> > > CODE PX VOL
>> > > -
>> > > BTEL 50 118447
>> > > DEWA 50 88923
>> > > MDLN 50 11037
>> > > BNBR 50 10209
>> > > TRUB 50 3496
>> > > KIJA 50 1933
>> > > SDRA 50 1500
>> > > KOIN 50 916
>> > > LCGP 50 502
>> > > FORU 50 202
>> > > INAF 50 165
>> > > IGAR 50 130
>> > > ASRI 50 127
>> > > ESTI 50 100
>> > > MITI 50 50
>> > > KARK 50 40
>> > > CNKO 50 20
>> > > LMAS 50 1
>> > > LPPF 50 0
>> > > LPPS 50 0
>> > > MAMI 50 0
>> > > SIMA 50 0
>> > > SIPD 50 0
>> > > TIRT 50 0
>> > > MLPL 50 0
>> > > MYRX 50 0
>> > > MYRXP 50 0
>> > > MYTX 50 0
>> > > POLY 50 0
>> > > PTRA 50 0
>> > > PYFA 50 0
>> > > IATA 50 0
>> > > FREN 50 0
>> > > GSMF 50 0
>> > > INPC 50 0
>> > > JASS 50 0
>> > > CTTH 50 0
>> > > DGIK 50 0
>> > > DSFI 50 0
>> > > BCIC 50 0
>> > > BEKS 50 0
>> > > BIPP 50 0
>> > > VRNA 50 0
>> > > WICO 50 0
>> > > ZBRA 50 0
>> > > APLI 50 0
>> > > AKKU 50 0
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > DE
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Just reminder...
>> >
>> > http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/106534
>> > 
>> > Secara kiasan;
>> > Sekarang ini kita beli saham pake duit 1 Milyar sama sekali tidak
>> > ada artinya.
>> > Laksana menggarami samudra...
>> > Pada saatnya nanti dengan duit 100 Juta investor sudah dapat
>> > memborong saham segudang!?
>> > 
>> >
>> > Padahal saat itu BEI masih di 18xx, yang katanye "sudah murah",
>> karena
>> > sudah turun 1000 POINT from the TOP...
>> > Emangnya ke depan tidak akan nambah lagi?
>> >
>> > Sorry...lagi minus gini nggak kuat nahan diri utk tdk ikut nimbrung.
>> > Jangan diartikan FEAR telah datang...
>> > Kekekekek
>> >
>>
>>
> 
>
<>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[Darwin Gunawan]

Kalo saya boleh share,

deposito dan tabungan sudah tidak kena pajak lagi karena sudah dikenakan
pajak final.

Begitupun dengan pajak hasil trading saham, itupun sudah final. Dasar
hukumnya adalah PP41 atas capital gain tax.

Sehingga hanya perlu dicantumkan dalam SPT saja.

2008/12/2 abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   Deposito dan tabungan juga gak kena pajak lagi khan ya?
> Tolong informasi dasar hukumnya atau landasannya mengapa deposito dan
> tabungan udah gak kena pajak lagi.
>
> Kalau deviden gimana, berapa batas jumlah deviden yang terkena pajak?
>
> Kenapa sih yang udah kena pajak mesti dicantumin lagi di SPT?
>
> 2008/12/2 HALIM SUNARTO JAYA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
> > Bung Jos
> >
> > Semua hasil dari saham aman, sdh dipotong pajak, laporkan saja spt tahuan
> > anda, tidak akan kena pajak lagi,
> > deposito dan tabungan juga, no problema.
> >
> > 
> > From: JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:05:53 PM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham
> >
> > temen2 saya tanya ...
> > Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
> > atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
> > thx
>  
>



-- 
Darwin Gunawan

[obrolan-bandar] Re: saham apa yg balik dlm bullish ?

[rosalind_marianne]

P" tjetjun sepertinya buru-buru yach ? 
Sebaiknya jgn terlalu berharap saham yang kita beli akan naik dalam 3
hari lho ... ntar bisa cemas, gemas dll yang membawa emosi tidak
terkontrol ( saran ). 
Kalau mau ikut , mungkin bisa dengerin Jsx Trader 

Mr. Trader , silahkan he..he..


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "y_dizz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maaf Pak, bisa diperjelas sahamnya apa, soalnya yang depannya 'B' ada 
> 47 emiten.
> 
> Apakah BTEL? BNBR? Atau malah BKSL?
> Hehehe...
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Hogan"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Bxxx
> > 
> > 2008/12/2 Vincent Chase 
> > 
> > >   trio kwek kwek?
> > >
> > >
> > > *tjetjun * wrote:
> > >
> > >  kalau dalam 3 hari ke depan, saham2 akan naik, saham2 apa yg 
> akan naik
> > > dgn persentase paling ya ? tolong, saya mau masuk skrg
> > >
> > > thks
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

[y_dizz]

Sabar El, be CALM and COOL.

You don't need to counter all of negative posting in this mailist.

p.s: Gue takut nih kalo El ngamuk, dia sekali ngeshort bisa mampus 
kita



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> *I said that YESTERFRICKINGDAY, you dumb ass. Read again.
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/122293
> 
> Elaine tidak pernah bilang bandar, artomoro bilang tangan bozz. 
Oentoeng
> bilang teman bozz. Elaine hanya manage investor, cari uang dari 
account
> investor institutional, including bakrie. Kalau Elaine hired by 
Bakrie, masa
> dulu suruh jual.. bodoh. Bandar/bozz, that's a slang used by OBs, 
it has
> nothing to do with me. To me bandar and traders are all the same. 
They tend
> to fight with each other.
> 
> I have no problem with Artomoro or Oentoeng, what's got into you? 
had a bad
> sex last night..? ^_^ cheer up man.
> 
> Elaine
> **

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[Bung Togar]

Nah, kalo gitu gimana buat ngisi SPT 21 nya ya..?? Apalagi yang trading.

Apakah kita bisa minta resi pajak pemotongan ke perusahaan Sekuritas/Broker.

 

Mohon petunjuknya ya. 

 

  _  

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:50 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

 

Final, kalau rugipun kita juga kena pajak khan?

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From: "JOsh WaiKIKI" 
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:05:53 -
To: 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

temen2 saya tanya ...
Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
thx

 

[obrolan-bandar] Re: saham apa yg balik dlm bullish ? $& Reward?

[FromBuitenzorg]

Diharapkan sebagian atau sbgn besar saham2 merah unggul yg 
di'tubruk' kemaren atau tadi pagi dalam 1-2-3 hari mendatang  
mendapat reward kalau tidak ikut2an panik dan lebih kondusif hadapi 
situasi global jelang akhir taun.

Disclaim. 
 
Rgrds



"rosalind_marianne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> P" tjetjun sepertinya buru-buru yach ? 
> Sebaiknya jgn terlalu berharap saham yang kita beli akan naik 
dalam 3
> hari lho ... ntar bisa cemas, gemas dll yang membawa emosi tidak
> terkontrol ( saran ). 
> Kalau mau ikut , mungkin bisa dengerin Jsx Trader 
> 
> Mr. Trader , silahkan he..he..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "y_dizz"  wrote:
> >
> > Maaf Pak, bisa diperjelas sahamnya apa, soalnya yang 
depannya 'B' ada 
> > 47 emiten.
> > 
> > Apakah BTEL? BNBR? Atau malah BKSL?
> > Hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Hogan"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Bxxx
> > > 
> > > 2008/12/2 Vincent Chase 
> > > 
> > > >   trio kwek kwek?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *tjetjun * wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  kalau dalam 3 hari ke depan, saham2 akan naik, saham2 apa 
yg 
> > akan naik
> > > > dgn persentase paling ya ? tolong, saya mau masuk 
skrg
> > > >
> > > > thks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: saham apa yg balik dlm bullish ?

[tjetjun]

terlambat,, besok ajah belinya.. ada sesuatu yg membuat saya yakin 
gitu, spt jumat lalu ada sesuatu yang membuat saya yakin akan drop 
besar waktu sedang bullish.. dan saya sempat nanya di mailing "sudah 
4 hari dow naik terus.., masak gak ada PT"

BTEL paling ke 55 atau 56.. itupun kalau rumor nya bener.. buybacknya 
baru disediakan 600jutaan.. terlalu kecil. BNBR.. kagak mungkin yah, 
BKSL itu gorengan kalau naik.. sementara gaklah.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "rosalind_marianne" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> P" tjetjun sepertinya buru-buru yach ? 
> Sebaiknya jgn terlalu berharap saham yang kita beli akan naik dalam 
3
> hari lho ... ntar bisa cemas, gemas dll yang membawa emosi tidak
> terkontrol ( saran ). 
> Kalau mau ikut , mungkin bisa dengerin Jsx Trader 
> 
> Mr. Trader , silahkan he..he..
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "y_dizz"  wrote:
> >
> > Maaf Pak, bisa diperjelas sahamnya apa, soalnya yang depannya 'B' 
ada 
> > 47 emiten.
> > 
> > Apakah BTEL? BNBR? Atau malah BKSL?
> > Hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Hogan"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Bxxx
> > > 
> > > 2008/12/2 Vincent Chase 
> > > 
> > > >   trio kwek kwek?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *tjetjun * wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  kalau dalam 3 hari ke depan, saham2 akan naik, saham2 apa yg 
> > akan naik
> > > > dgn persentase paling ya ? tolong, saya mau masuk skrg
> > > >
> > > > thks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

[tjetjun]

Pak G-Man, dan Dek Elaine, jangan marah.. tapi dik Elaine pernah loh 
yang dikatakannya bener2 terjadi berikut waktu pemberiannya dan 
persennya. coba cari postingan dik elaine dulu.. mungkin ajah 
kebetulan. tapi waktu itu lagi bearish banget, dan katanya akan naik 
dalam .. hari.. naik 30% beberapa saham yang ditunjukkan..

jadi tenang ajah, ambil semuanya sebagai data ajah

 
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Elaine Sui" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> *I said that YESTERFRICKINGDAY, you dumb ass. Read again.
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/122293
> 
> Elaine tidak pernah bilang bandar, artomoro bilang tangan bozz. 
Oentoeng
> bilang teman bozz. Elaine hanya manage investor, cari uang dari 
account
> investor institutional, including bakrie. Kalau Elaine hired by 
Bakrie, masa
> dulu suruh jual.. bodoh. Bandar/bozz, that's a slang used by OBs, 
it has
> nothing to do with me. To me bandar and traders are all the same. 
They tend
> to fight with each other.
> 
> I have no problem with Artomoro or Oentoeng, what's got into you? 
had a bad
> sex last night..? ^_^ cheer up man.
> 
> Elaine
> **
> *2008/12/2 G - MAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >El – El,
> >
> >
> >
> > Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish…
> >
> >
> >
> > Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut.
> >
> >
> >
> > IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA – 679.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regional juga merah.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Soal BUMI … hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana,
> >
> >
> >
> > Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar.  Itu soalan duit yg geeed 
banget.
> >
> >
> >
> > Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy
> >
> >
> >
> > Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau
> >
> >
> >
> > Ngga usah di koar2 disini.  Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, 
itu yg
> > gua yakin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gini aje deh El,
> >
> >
> >
> > Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu 
show?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara 
tepat.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jng bilang ngga bisa.  The real BD bisa…. Itupun kalo lo orang 
semua kenal
> > BD yg asli.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu 
guru kek,
> > raja kek apa yg lu mao deh.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO.
> >
> >
> >
> > Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / 
di puja2
> > orang.
> >
> >
> >
> > Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis 
tanpa pamrih,
> > tanpa OMDO,
> >
> >
> >
> > Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble 
aja tuh.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu….
> >
> >
> >
> > Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 – 2 T, kecil kan 
buat BD
> > berkuasa kaya lu semua…
> >
> >
> >
> > BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja.
> >
> >
> >
> > BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 
dukung.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk 
ngomong gede
> > melulu. Ngga abis2 lagi.
> >
> >
> >
> > Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak
> >
> >
> >
> > Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu 
pada "BULLSHITTER"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > SALAM SEBEL
> >
> >
> >
> > G - MAN
> >  
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT

[Steven Tan]

Emangnya baru KALAH / Nyangkut berapa M sih pak? ha.. ha.. ha...
Nafsu bener...
Ini Milis bebas pak, semua bebas berpendapat. Kalau nggak setuju ya delete
aja emailnya nggak usah gitu-gitu lah. Kaya anak kecil n NORAK beneeerrr.
Daripada cuma koar-koar gini, coba bapak sekarang kasih masukan yang penting
dan berarti untuk milis ini.
Mungkin yang sebel terhadap postingan email bakal lebih sebel lagi ngebaca
postingan beginian, menuh-menuhin inbox aja.

p.s. : Email ini jg sudah saya delete setelah ini, lumayan "cuan" beberapa
kilobyte... he.. he.. he...






2008/12/2 G - MAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>El – El,
>
>
>
> Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish…
>
>
>
> Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut.
>
>
>
> IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA – 679.
>
>
>
> Regional juga merah.
>
>
>
>
>
> Soal BUMI … hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana,
>
>
>
> Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar.  Itu soalan duit yg geeed banget.
>
>
>
> Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy
>
>
>
> Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau
>
>
>
> Ngga usah di koar2 disini.  Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, itu yg
> gua yakin.
>
>
>
>
>
> Gini aje deh El,
>
>
>
> Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu show?
>
>
>
> Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara tepat.
>
>
>
> Jng bilang ngga bisa.  The real BD bisa…. Itupun kalo lo orang semua kenal
> BD yg asli.
>
>
>
> Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu guru kek,
> raja kek apa yg lu mao deh.
>
>
>
> Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO.
>
>
>
> Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu
>
>
>
>
>
> Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / di puja2
> orang.
>
>
>
> Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis tanpa pamrih,
> tanpa OMDO,
>
>
>
> Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble aja tuh.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu….
>
>
>
> Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya.
>
>
>
> Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 – 2 T, kecil kan buat BD
> berkuasa kaya lu semua…
>
>
>
> BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja.
>
>
>
> BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 dukung.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk ngomong gede
> melulu. Ngga abis2 lagi.
>
>
>
> Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak
>
>
>
> Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu pada "BULLSHITTER"
>
>
>
>
>
> SALAM SEBEL
>
>
>
> G - MAN
>  
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: LOWEST IN DECEMBER

[Kidod25]

Sptnya akan kejadian ..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "y_dizz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> AMIN deh...
> 
> Asal hati2 aja, awal bulan belum berakhir lho, ini masih tanggal 2.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Kidod25"  wrote:
> >
> > Kalau besok ihsg ijo maka hari ini merupakan indeks terendah dalam 
> bulan desember. Sejarah menunjukkan ihsg selalu lowest pada awal 
> bulan desember sejak tahun 2001. Bubble dolar akan segera meletus in 
> coming months...
> >
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[Halim Mintareja]

Sekedar meluruskan

bukan deposito dan tabungan yang tidak kena pajak... tapi *BUNGA *deposito
dan tabungan

kan gak lucu kalau seseorang tanpa asal usul tiba-tiba di SPT-nya muncul
deposito sebesar xxM

2008/12/2 Darwin Gunawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Kalo saya boleh share,
>
> deposito dan tabungan sudah tidak kena pajak lagi karena sudah dikenakan
> pajak final.
>
> Begitupun dengan pajak hasil trading saham, itupun sudah final. Dasar
> hukumnya adalah PP41 atas capital gain tax.
>
> Sehingga hanya perlu dicantumkan dalam SPT saja.
>
> 2008/12/2 abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   Deposito dan tabungan juga gak kena pajak lagi khan ya?
>> Tolong informasi dasar hukumnya atau landasannya mengapa deposito dan
>> tabungan udah gak kena pajak lagi.
>>
>> Kalau deviden gimana, berapa batas jumlah deviden yang terkena pajak?
>>
>> Kenapa sih yang udah kena pajak mesti dicantumin lagi di SPT?
>>
>> 2008/12/2 HALIM SUNARTO JAYA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
>> > Bung Jos
>> >
>> > Semua hasil dari saham aman, sdh dipotong pajak, laporkan saja spt
>> tahuan
>> > anda, tidak akan kena pajak lagi,
>> > deposito dan tabungan juga, no problema.
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:05:53 PM
>> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham
>> >
>> > temen2 saya tanya ...
>> > Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
>> > atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
>> > thx
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Darwin Gunawan
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] US STOCKS - Shares rebound with confidence boost from GE

[JsxTrader]

US STOCKS-Shares rebound with confidence boost from GE   
03 Desember 2008 5:30:36 (GMT+07:00)
Provided by: Reuters News 

* GE says will keep dividend, shares jump 13 percent 
* Financials, energy recover after Monday's rout 
* Dow up 3 pct, S&P and Nasdaq up nearly 4 pct 

By Chuck Mikolajczak 

NEW YORK, Dec 2 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks snapped back on 

Tuesday after a pledge by General Electric , a global bellwether, to
leave its dividend intact in a fragile economy sparked optimism. 

Financial stocks recovered a sizable chunk of Monday's record loss after the
Federal Reserve extended several emergency measures integral to stabilizing
banks during the credit crisis. 

The move by the U.S. central bank came a day after Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke
emphasized that policy-makers were determined to stabilize the economy and
financial markets. 

The S&P financial index <.GSPF> rose nearly 8 percent, as Citigroup 
and Bank of America  both jumped nearly 12 percent. 

But the spotlight was on conglomerate GE, whose shares surged 13.6 percent
to $17.61 after the maker of goods from jet engines to lightbulbs said it
plans to scale back its sizable finance arm and cut jobs as the U.S.
recession digs deeper, while maintaining its dividend. For details, see
[nN01506020] 

"There's been concern about GE's defending its triple-A credit rating at its
financing unit. ... The company is taking steps to bolster that unit, which
will help protect its dividend," said Brian Gendreau, an investment
strategist in New York for ING Investment Management Americas. "This is
helping to pull the market higher." 

The Dow Jones industrial average <.DJI> gained 270.00 points, or 3.31
percent, at 8,419.09. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index <.SPX> rose 32.60
points, or 3.99 percent, at 848.81. The Nasdaq Composite Index <.IXIC> added
51.73 points, or 3.70 percent, at 1,449.80. 

Energy stocks, currently the cheapest S&P sector in relation to earnings,
also drove the Dow higher after losses on Monday. Chevron  gained
almost 5 percent to $75.54 while Exxon Mobil  climbed over 4 percent
to $77.61. 

Stocks pared gains and the Dow briefly turned negative after General Motors
 reported U.S. vehicle sales declined by 41 percent in November.
[nN02291389] 

The carmaker recovered to end up almost 6 percent at $4.85, while Ford Motor
Co  rose 6 percent to $2.70. 

Executives of the big three U.S. automakers, including Chrysler, are due to
present Washington with their plans to justify a $25 billion bailout as
worries about possible bankruptcy persist. 

As part of its plan, Ford said it expected its overall and North American
automotive business to break even or be profitable in 2011 and did not
anticipate a liquidity crisis, barring a bankruptcy of one of its domestic
rivals. [nWNA0721] 

Even with the broad gains, worries about the deepening economic slump caused
some caution, as diversified manufacturer 3M Co  fell over 2.4
percent to $60.86 after a brokerage downgrade. 

Advancers outnumbered decliners by nearly 3 to 1 on the New York Stock
Exchange, while the ratio of advancers was more than 2 to 1 to decliners on
the Nasdaq. 

Volume totaled about 1.62 billion on the New York Stock Exchange, while
about 2.14 billion shares changed hands on the Nasdaq. 

(Editing by Leslie Adler) 

 

[obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar .......???

[qasuaribo]

BUMI ..bener bener nih saham.
Sekarang isunya TPG mundur dari konsorsium Northstar (detik/ times).
Heran kagak ade matinye isu nih saham. Hebaaat banget yah...

Babaliut euy...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[jon . c0nman]

Diluruskan sedikit lagi.
Bunga deposito dan tabungan yang saldo rata2nya lebih dari 7.5 juta rupiah, 
dikenakan pajak penghasilan yang bersifat final.
demikian pula dengan pajak penghasilan atas penjualan saham yang diperdagangkan 
di bursa efek.
Dasar hukum: pasal 4 ayat 2 UU No 7 tahun 1983 tentang pajak penghasilan yang 
diubah terakhir kali dengan UU no 36 tahun 2008

PS: mulai tahun 2009, dividen yang diterima dikenakan pajak 10% yang bersifat 
final.
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-Original Message-
From: "Halim Mintareja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:40:00 
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham


Sekedar meluruskan

bukan deposito dan tabungan yang tidak kena pajak... tapi *BUNGA *deposito
dan tabungan

kan gak lucu kalau seseorang tanpa asal usul tiba-tiba di SPT-nya muncul
deposito sebesar xxM

2008/12/2 Darwin Gunawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>  Kalo saya boleh share,
>
> deposito dan tabungan sudah tidak kena pajak lagi karena sudah dikenakan
> pajak final.
>
> Begitupun dengan pajak hasil trading saham, itupun sudah final. Dasar
> hukumnya adalah PP41 atas capital gain tax.
>
> Sehingga hanya perlu dicantumkan dalam SPT saja.
>
> 2008/12/2 abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>>   Deposito dan tabungan juga gak kena pajak lagi khan ya?
>> Tolong informasi dasar hukumnya atau landasannya mengapa deposito dan
>> tabungan udah gak kena pajak lagi.
>>
>> Kalau deviden gimana, berapa batas jumlah deviden yang terkena pajak?
>>
>> Kenapa sih yang udah kena pajak mesti dicantumin lagi di SPT?
>>
>> 2008/12/2 HALIM SUNARTO JAYA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >:
>> > Bung Jos
>> >
>> > Semua hasil dari saham aman, sdh dipotong pajak, laporkan saja spt
>> tahuan
>> > anda, tidak akan kena pajak lagi,
>> > deposito dan tabungan juga, no problema.
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2008 4:05:53 PM
>> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham
>> >
>> > temen2 saya tanya ...
>> > Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
>> > atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
>> > thx
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Darwin Gunawan
> 
>

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pajak Penghasilan dr Trading Saham

[Adhi Sukmono]

Sebagaimana dengan Deposito dan Tabungan, dimana PPh atas bunga Deposito dan
tabungan adalah bersifat FINAL, demikian pula PPh atas transaksi penjualan
saham (0.1%) juga bersifat FINAL.   (catatan : PPh = Pajak Penghasilan,
bukan pajak penjualan !)
Jadi dalam SPT tahunan PPh WP Pribadi dapat dicantumkan dalam Lampiran III
(Penghasilan Yang Dikenakan Pajak Final).

Sementara PPh atas *Dividen **belum bersifat final*, jadi harus digabungkan
dengan penghasilan lain (mis gaji atau dr usaha lain), dalam Lampiran I,
bagian C. Disitu tercantum Penghasilan dalam negeri lainnya, antara lain
Dividen,Sewa dll

2008/12/2 JOsh WaiKIKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>   temen2 saya tanya ...
> Apakah Penghasilan dari trading saham dikenai pajak?
> atau apakah pajak penjualan saham yg kita bayar ke broker sudah final?
> thx
>
>  
>

RE: [obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar .......???

[JsxTrader]

Saya sampe males baca berita-beritanya lagi, sdh lah, liat chart aja, it
discount everything.

JsxTrader

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of qasuaribo
Sent: 03 Desember 2008 7:15
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar ...???

BUMI ..bener bener nih saham.
Sekarang isunya TPG mundur dari konsorsium Northstar (detik/ times).
Heran kagak ade matinye isu nih saham. Hebaaat banget yah...

Babaliut euy...

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-Original Message-
From: "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 07:34:56 
To: 
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar ...???


Saya sampe males baca berita-beritanya lagi, sdh lah, liat chart aja, it
discount everything.

JsxTrader

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of qasuaribo
Sent: 03 Desember 2008 7:15
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar ...???

BUMI ..bener bener nih saham.
Sekarang isunya TPG mundur dari konsorsium Northstar (detik/ times).
Heran kagak ade matinye isu nih saham. Hebaaat banget yah...

Babaliut euy...

RE: [obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar .......???

[zainudin aziez]

Pak JT tlg dong chart nya ok gak

--- On Wed, 3/12/08, JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar ...???
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 3 December, 2008, 7:34 AM






Saya sampe males baca berita-beritanya lagi, sdh lah, liat chart aja, it
discount everything.

JsxTrader

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of qasuaribo
Sent: 03 Desember 2008 7:15
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar ...???

BUMI ..bener bener nih saham.
Sekarang isunya TPG mundur dari konsorsium Northstar (detik/ times).
Heran kagak ade matinye isu nih saham. Hebaaat banget yah...

Babaliut euy...

 














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[obrolan-bandar] Re: TPG mundur dari NorthStar .......???

[Kidod25]

pagi2 muncul berita jelek, pas market tutup baru ada  klarifikasi negasi. Udah 
berapa kali ya? Sinetron bgt

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Saya sampe males baca berita-beritanya lagi, sdh lah, liat chart aja, it
> discount everything.
> 
> JsxTrader
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of qasuaribo
> Sent: 03 Desember 2008 7:15
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TPG mundur dari NorthStar ...???
> 
> BUMI ..bener bener nih saham.
> Sekarang isunya TPG mundur dari konsorsium Northstar (detik/ times).
> Heran kagak ade matinye isu nih saham. Hebaaat banget yah...
> 
> Babaliut euy...
>

[obrolan-bandar] ISAT

[Hans]

ISAT 2 hari lalu gagal melakukan breakout dari downtrend yang terbentuk sejak 
nov 2007
agak sulit mengharapkan breakout atas di saat ini.

support harian 4475 dan support di 4225 serta 3850

resistance harian di 5100 dan resistance di 5600

Hans

 

[MetaStock Team]

 

Tulisan di atas bukanlah suatu rekomendasi beli atau jual, melainkan suatu 
petunjuk untuk menginterpretasikan sebuah pola atau indikator tertentu. 
Informasi di atas seharusnya digunakan hanya oleh investor yang memahami resiko 
dalam trading saham,  komoditi mau pun forex. Kami tidak bertanggung jawab atas 
kerugian apa pun yang disebabkan oleh penggunaan tulisan di atas.
<>

[obrolan-bandar] Fw: TLKM

[Hans]

- Original Message - 
From: Hans 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:52 AM
Subject: TLKM


TLKM mulai membentuk sebauh base di up trend jangka pendek yang terbentuk.
pola symmetrical triangles terbentuk di ujung pergerakan harga

Support harian di 5700. support pola di 5500
resistance harian di 6000 resistance pola di 6200
target breakout 7500

thx
Hans

 

[MetaStock Team]

 

Tulisan di atas bukanlah suatu rekomendasi beli atau jual, melainkan suatu 
petunjuk untuk menginterpretasikan sebuah pola atau indikator tertentu. 
Informasi di atas seharusnya digunakan hanya oleh investor yang memahami resiko 
dalam trading saham,  komoditi mau pun forex. Kami tidak bertanggung jawab atas 
kerugian apa pun yang disebabkan oleh penggunaan tulisan di atas.
<>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: DOW - Chart

[sulistyo_winarto]

Pak JT, iseng2 lihat polling. Salam...tetep optimis
Where do you think the Dow will end the year?
 
Around 9,000 25% 

Below 8,500 64% 

Above 9,500 11% 

Can the Big Three make vehicles that Americans want to buy?
Yes, if they get a bailout 20%   
Yes, if they file for bankruptcy 39% 
No  41%  
Total responses to this question: 89048




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Another 'Touch and Go' at 8200 area.., dan mental seperti harapan., ntar
> kalau udh tinggi di short lagi, trus cover short lagi di 8200, dst..,
> biasalah,  bule W.Street kalau becanda rada norak. hehehe
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> JsxTrader
> 
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> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of JsxTrader
> Sent: 02 Desember 2008 8:41
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] DOW - Chart
> 
>  
> 
> Wall Street emang gokil., ckckck..
> 
>  
> 
> Dalam Intraday chart  5 menit, DOW jatuh dalem dimenit-menit awal.,
CLOSE
> kembali di area support kuat., volume relative normal, tidak extreme.
> 
>  
> 
> looks like pada ngeshort kayaknya, mudah2an ntar malem pada cover
short..,
> there will always a reaction to an action. Semoga mental.
> 
>  
> 
> JsxTrader
> 
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> Intraday
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> 
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of JsxTrader
> Sent: 01 Desember 2008 23:22
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DOW - Chart
> 
>  
> 
> 23.15,  
> 
>  
> 
> bandingin dengan rally sebelumnya, masih aman lah.., memang DOW masih
> sideways kan.., besok-besok juga mental lagi lah, Smoga.
> 
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Iseng2x kalkulasi BUMI pakai simple DCF

[tirta858]

GS BUMI research 1 dec 08

http://www.mediafire.com/?
sharekey=3f16d386c635ce9a91b20cc0d07ba4d2e376198bdd471662






--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tirta858" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> 
> CLSA 26nov research report
> 
> http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=3f16d386c635ce9ad2db6fb9a8902bda
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tirta858"  
> wrote:
> >
> > Barusan saja saya kalkulasi BUMI using simple DCF calculation.
> > 
> > Datanya saya ambil dari
> > 
> > http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/incomeStatement?
> > stmtType=INC&perType=ANN&symbol=BUMI.JK
> > 
> > Saya pakai angka yang agak conservative saja.
> > 
> > Net income saya ambil dari permulaan tahun 2004(first positive 
> > earning) lalu net income growth saya pakai tahun 2004 dan 2005 
> yaitu 
> > 12.2%(pre comodity euphoria). FV net income(2008) = 1.122^4 x 
108.8 
> = 
> > $172.42mil (sangat conservative compare to actual 2007 $789mil)
> > 
> > Assumptionnya :
> > 
> > Exchange rate = Rp 10,000
> > Net income 2008 = $172.42 mil
> > 1-5 year growth = 12.2% 
> > Terminal = 3%
> > Shares out = 19,404 mil 
> > WACC = 17%
> > 
> > Plug in the numbers: 
> > 
> > IV = Rp 922
> > IV with 40% margin of safety = Rp 553
> > 
> > Comments are welcome :)
> >
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: TPG mundur dari NorthStar .......???

[qasuaribo]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "qasuaribo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> BUMI ..bener bener nih saham.
> Sekarang isunya TPG mundur dari konsorsium Northstar (detik/ times).
> Heran kagak ade matinye isu nih saham. Hebaaat banget yah...
> 
> Babaliut euy...
>

RALAT :
 Berita dari website Bisnis Indonesia/ Financial Times.