[obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI

[jsx_consultant]

Apa BEDA gambar embah dibanding jsxtrader ?.

Perbedaan UTAMA ada pada penarikan channel:
- jsxtrader menggunakan regresi matematik dan
- embah menggunakan PIG's extreme sebagai garis atas dan
  bawah channel.

Embah kirim lagi gambarnya supaya mudah dibandingkan dengan
gambar jsxtrader:

http://www.trader2000.com/pwlaali.png

Kelebihan/kelemahan:
- Pendekatan regresi menSMOOTHkan fluktuasi yg terlalu extrim,
  pada AALI mengakibatkan UPTREND AALI belum jebol.
- Pendekatan embah memperhitungkan fluktuasi harga extrim karena
  dasar marketwise technical adalah PIG.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "JsxTrader"  wrote:
>
> Sekedar melengkapi Posting Mbah ttg AALI dari sudut pandang berbeda.
>
>
>
> Primary trend masih UP, akan tetapi Trend Volume cenderung turun, indikasi
> bahwa buying enthusiasm lemah (maklum market lagi bearish berat)., Terlihat
> beberapa kali percobaan untuk menembus Resistant GAP tidak berhasil
> (12000-12900), harga bergerak sideways dalam area gap dan kemarin BREAK DOWN
> dari lower gap dengan Volume Spike dan Volume diatas rata-rata..,
> Kemungkinan besar position trader mulai menyadari harga sudah tidak mau naik
> lagi, sehingga mereka mulai memberikan 'diskon' dengan sell at lower price.
>
>
>
> So, meskipun belum confirm, Waspadai kemungkinan akan terjadi koreksi
> terhadap Primary Trend, jika itu terjadi,  Worst Case scenario target
> koreksi adalah 10.050 (tentunya setelah melewati beberapa tahap), semoga itu
> tidak terjadi.
>
>
>
> Titik support yg perlu dicermati adalah  area 10900-10950, ada kemungkinan
> harga akan tertahan diarea tsb, namun jika jebol.., segera exit all long
> position dan tunggu signal berikutnya. Untuk sementara no LONG/BUY
> opportunity., Short dimungkinkan, namun tunggu confirmasi lebih lanjut
> (lower high + lower low) dengan stop lost above 12900.., Disclaimer.
>
>
>
> We will review and recalculate next week, semoga hanya koreksi biasa saja
> dan in midterm, up-trend masih bisa lanjut. Good Luck.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> aali.png
>

[obrolan-bandar] Re: AALI

[FromBuitenzorg]

Mungkin saya agak sedikit berbeda Bozz, saya prediksi hanya akan bergerak 
sekitar 11750 - 11950, dg volume yg menurun...

Rgrds


"JsxTrader"  wrote:
>
> Sekedar melengkapi Posting Mbah ttg AALI dari sudut pandang berbeda.
> 
>  
> 
> Primary trend masih UP, akan tetapi Trend Volume cenderung turun, indikasi
> bahwa buying enthusiasm lemah (maklum market lagi bearish berat)., Terlihat
> beberapa kali percobaan untuk menembus Resistant GAP tidak berhasil
> (12000-12900), harga bergerak sideways dalam area gap dan kemarin BREAK DOWN
> dari lower gap dengan Volume Spike dan Volume diatas rata-rata..,
> Kemungkinan besar position trader mulai menyadari harga sudah tidak mau naik
> lagi, sehingga mereka mulai memberikan 'diskon' dengan sell at lower price.
> 
>  
> 
> So, meskipun belum confirm, Waspadai kemungkinan akan terjadi koreksi
> terhadap Primary Trend, jika itu terjadi,  Worst Case scenario target
> koreksi adalah 10.050 (tentunya setelah melewati beberapa tahap), semoga itu
> tidak terjadi.
> 
>  
> 
> Titik support yg perlu dicermati adalah  area 10900-10950, ada kemungkinan
> harga akan tertahan diarea tsb, namun jika jebol.., segera exit all long
> position dan tunggu signal berikutnya. Untuk sementara no LONG/BUY
> opportunity., Short dimungkinkan, namun tunggu confirmasi lebih lanjut
> (lower high + lower low) dengan stop lost above 12900.., Disclaimer.
> 
>  
> 
> We will review and recalculate next week, semoga hanya koreksi biasa saja
> dan in midterm, up-trend masih bisa lanjut. Good Luck.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> JT 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> aali.png
>

[obrolan-bandar] Bapepam akan Periksa Akuisisi Bumi Hingga Tuntas

[simon bolenang]

Jakarta
- Badan Pengawas Pasar Modal dan Lembaga Keuangan (Bapepam LK)
menegaskan akan memeriksa tuntas aksi korporasi akuisisi tiga
perusahaan yang dilakukan PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI).

"BUMI
sudah diperiksa kabiro pemeriksaan dan penyidikan tiga hari yang lalu.
Kita akan periksa semuanya sampai tuntas," kata Kepala Biro Bidang
Pemeriksaan dan Penyidikan Bapepam LK Sarjito di kantor Bapepam Jalan
Wahidin Raya, Jakarta, Jumat (6/3/2009).

Menurut Sarjito, sampai
saat ini BUMI masih dalam proses penyidikan. Sebelumnya Bapepam juga
telah meminta BUMI untuk melakukan RUPS dimana pemegang sahamlah yang
akan menentukan material atau tidaknya akuisisi tersebut.

BUMI
menandatangani perjanjian akuisisi 80% saham Zurich Asset Investments
senilai Rp 2,412 triliun pada 30 Desember 2008. Kemudian pada 5 Januari
2009, BUMI mengambil alih 76,8% saham PT Fajar Bumi Sakti (FBS) senilai
Rp 2,475 triliun. Terakhir, pada 7 Januari 2009 BUMI mengambil alih 84%
saham PT Pendopo Energi Batubara (PEB) senilai Rp 1,304 triliun.

BUMI
mengatakan transaksi tersebut tidak material sehingga tidak melakukan
persetujuan pemegang saham dalam RUPS. BUMI menilai harga pembelian
tersebut sangat wajar sedangkan Bapepam melihat nilai transaksi sangat
mahal sehingga perlu dilakukan pemeriksaan lebih lanjut.(ir/qom)

Sanksi hukumnya apa kalau sampai bersalah? Ikuti contoh di bursa terbesar aja.



  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 1997 vs. Today: Stocks, Commodities, Economy

[kusumo k]

gitu ya pak :))

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, adjies2000  wrote:

>   --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> kusumo k  wrote:
> >
> > Pak ada artikel untuk 1997 vs. Today tapi utk kampung kita sendiri ?
> > Thanks ya
>
> Hello,
>
> Sekedar info bagi Trader BEI, kita selalu mengacu kepada DowJones, regional
> untuk prediksi BEI dan saham2 individual,dan selama beras, tempe tahu,
> roti, indomie, StarBuck yang kita makan/minum "mengawini" USD,
>
> apa boleh buat ? Di USA bersin(Leading Indicator), kita sudah
> batuk2---(lagging Indicator)
>
> apalagi dengan hadirnya Hedgefund..intermarket portfolionya sering
> membuat TA + FA local stock melongo
> contoh : Jual Stock BEI (tidak ada hujan angin) untuk dibelikan in Oil atau
> Gold visa versa,
>
> Salam
>
>
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:11 AM, adjies2000  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thursday, 5 Mar 2009
> > > 1997 vs. Today: Stocks, Commodities, Economy
> > > Posted By: Giovanny Moreano | Yolaiki Gonzalez | Ariel Nelson
> > > Topics:Gold & Precious Metals | Oil | Economy (U.S.) | Commodities |
> Dow
> > > Jones Industrial Average | Stock Market
> > >
> > > Following a sharp drop in the Dow to 1997 levels, here is a look back
> at
> > > that time in history. While stocks are back to 12 year lows, most other
> > > things are not the same.
> > >
> > > Major Indices:
> > >
> > > 1997
> > >
> > > * The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 7908.25 on 12/31/97, up
> > > 1,459.98 points for the year, or 22.64%.
> > > * It hit an intraday high for the year of 8299.49 on 8/7/97
> > > * It hit an intraday low for the year of 6352.82 on 1/2/97
> > > * In 1997, the Dow closed up 54.5% of the time and down 45.5% of the
> time
> > > * In terms of yearly percent gains from 1997 to 2008, the Dow had its
> third
> > > largest percent increase in 1997. The best yearly percent gain during
> these
> > > years was on 2003 (25.32%), followed by 1999 (25.22%).
> > > * The S&P 500 closed at 970.43 on 12/31/97, up 229.69 points for the
> year,
> > > or 31.01%.
> > > * It hit an intraday high for the year of 986.2 on 12/5/97
> > > * It hit an intraday low for the year of 729.6 on 1/2/97
> > > * In 1997, the S&P closed up 55.5% of the time an down 44.5% of the
> time
> > > * The NASDAQ Composite closed at 1570.35 on 12/31/97, up 279.32 points
> for
> > > the year, or 21.64%.
> > > * It hit an intraday high for the year of 1748.62 on 10/9/97
> > > * It hit an intraday low for the year of 1194.39 on 4/22/97
> > > * In 1997, the NASDAQ closed up 57.3% of the time and down 42.7% of the
> > > time
> > >
> > > 2008
> > >
> > > * The Dow fell 4488.43 points to close at 8776.39, down 33.84% for the
> year
> > > * The S&P fell 565.11 points to close at 903.25 , down 38.49% for the
> year
> > > * The NASDAQ Composite fell 1075.25 points to close at 1577.03 on
> 12/31/08,
> > > down 40.54% for the year
> > >
> > > 2009
> > >
> > > * The Dow closed on 3/3/09 at 6726.02, its lowest close since April 21,
> > > 1997
> > > So far this year, the Dow has traded between a range of 9088.06 and
> 6705.63
> > > Year-to-date, the Dow is down 21.7%
> > > * The S&P 500 closed on 3/3/09 at 696.33, its lowest close since
> October
> > > 10, 1996
> > > * The S&P has traded between a range of 944.28 and 692.69 so far this
> year
> > > * Year-to-date, the S&P is down 21.1%
> > > * The NASDAQ Composite closed on 3/3/09 at 1321.01, 4.89 points away
> from
> > > its 11/7/08 through.
> > > * The NASDAQ has traded between a range of 1665.63 and 1312.98 so far
> this
> > > year
> > > Year-to-date, the NASDAQ is down 14.2%
> > >
> > > Commodities:
> > >
> > > 1997
> > >
> > > * Crude oil closed at $17.64 per barrel on 12/31/97, down $8.28 for the
> > > year, or 31.94%
> > > * It hit an intraday high for the year of $26.24 per barrel on 1/9/97
> > > * It hit an intraday low for the year of $17.50 per barrel on 12/30/97
> > > * Gold closed at $293.6 per 100 Troy Oz, down $75.6 for the year, or
> > > 20.48%.
> > > * It hit an intraday high for the year of $369.4 per 100 Troy Oz, on
> 1/2/97
> > > * It hit an intraday low for the year of $283.3 per 100 Troy Oz., on
> > > 12/9/97
> > >
> > > 2008
> > >
> > > * Crude oil closed at $44.6 per barrel on 12/31/08, down 53.53% for the
> > > year
> > > * Traded between a range of $147.27 and $35.13
> > > * Gold closed at $884.3 per 100 Troy Oz. on 12/31/08, up 5.53% for the
> year
> > > * Traded between a range of $1033.9 and $681
> > >
> > > 2009
> > >
> > > * Crude oil has traded between a range of $50.47 and $33.2 so far this
> year
> > > * Year-to-date, it is up 1.75%
> > > * Gold has traded between a range of $1007.7 and $801.5 so far this
> year
> > > * Year-to-date, it is up 2.53%
> > >
> > > Unleaded, Regular Gasoline Average Retail Price (Energy Information
> > > Administration):
> > >
> > > 1997 Average Price: $1.234/gallon
> > > 1997 High/Low: September at a monthly average of $1.277/gallon &
> December
> > > at a monthly average of $1.177/gallon
> > >
> 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pgas

[Felicia Rumondor]

Mbah kayaknya support 1 AALI langsung jadi resistance ya? dan 
akan menuju support 2? 

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:


From: jsx_consultant 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pgas
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 5:18 AM






Embah kirim tehnikal AALI...

http://www.trader20 00.com/piwaali. htm

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Joe Grunk  wrote:
>
> Mbah,
> 
> PGAS mau tunggu diberapa nih?
> 
> AALI juga mau ditunggu di berapa?
> 
> 
> 
> Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, 
> Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger .yahoo.com/ invite/
>

















  

Re: [obrolan-bandar] You must be Mad to buy Citigroup stock. Re: peraturan delisting NYSE mengenai

[Dean Earwicker]

Kenapa sih ga disebut aja.. kalo saham US sih engga perlu takut dibaca bd...


Paling kalo gak Goldman Sachs, ya Wells Fargo..

Regards,
DE

2009/3/8 cendrawira 

> Greetings, memang betapa tempting untuk memiliki behemoth seperti citigroup
> dengan seharga U$ 1 / stock. tapi apakah anda tau kalau citigroup itu sudah
> menjadi zombie bank , istilah bank yang sudah mati tapi di-animate oleh US
> government untuk menjaga citra dan shockwave financial collapse kalau
> dibiarkan file for chapter 11. saya tidak mau omong panjang lebar, yang
> namanya high risk juga memberikan high reward. Prince Alwaleed membuat
> namanya karena di tahun 90an dia membeli saham citi seharga U$ 2 dan
> menyentuh 50an di peaknya. sekarang kolega2 saya mengibaratkan saham
> citigroup seperti US lottery, bisa bikin bust dan kaya. it's your call. bisa
> aja dukungan politik2 membuat bank ini hidup lagi seperti kasus perbankan
> indonesia di tahun 1998, contoh BCA, dari setengah mati akhirnya bisa jadi
> kuda hitam perbankan nasional. tapi let me give you a good head up, market
> kapitalisasi citigroup skrng sisa U$6.2B , dan US government akan tetap
> menginjek U$ 45 billion buat common shares di city, saudara punya otak
> sendiri 6.2/45 = 0.137 Dilution. sekarang ambil saja harga pasaran citigroup
> dikalikan 0.137 , dan anda akan mendapatkan harga asli citigroup. GOOD LUCK
> WITH YOUR CITIGROUP. sebenarnya ada bank amerika yang akan menjadi survivor
> dan paling besar setelah ekonomi amerika recover dan harga sahamnya akan
> naik hingga 200%. kalau anda rajin sedikit anda bisa riset dan mengetahui
> bank apa itu, sekarang 1/2 harta saya, saya telah benamkan untuk membeli
> bank itu. GOOD LUCK !!!
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "adjies2000"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hoki Tralala 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > AIG sama eropa hubungannya apa ya? :-)
> >
> >
> > reply :
> >
> > AIG dari bisnis traditional asuransi sudah berubah menjadi raksasa
> sebagai HedgeFunD dan hancur lebur...bisnis AIG yang sudah kait mengkait
> dengan ekonomi Europa, dampak domino yang akan membuat system Banking,
> Insurance, PensionFund dll berantakan.
> >
> > "AIG used to be in the conventional insurance business, covering
> identifiable risks it knew something about, until it took advantage of
> deregulation and a lack of government surveillance to come up with contrived
> new financial products. Even Maurice Greenberg, the man who built AIG from
> the ground up over a span of 40 years before he was forced out amid
> corruption charges in 2005, admits that he didn't understand the newfangled
> financial gimmicks that the company was peddling. This week, claiming he too
> was swindled, Greenberg sued in federal court, charging the AIG execs who
> forced him out with "gross, wanton or willful fraud or other morally
> culpable conduct," over the credit default swap portfolio that was part of
> his settlement.
> >
> > US taxpayers now have ownership of almost 80 percent of AIG, but with the
> company's once solid traditional insurance business now suffering a steep
> loss of consumer confidence, it's not likely that even the formerly healthy
> parts of the company will be worth much. What we have here is all pain and
> no gain for the taxpayers roped into this debacle, which is proving to be
> the story of the entire banking bailout. '
> >
> > Reference dibawah ini.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > AIG: Billions Dished Out in the Dark
> > By Robert Scheer
> >
> > March 4, 2009
> >
> > * Email
> > * Print
> > * Share
> >   o Buzz up!
> >   o Buzzflash
> >   o del.icio.us
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> >   o Facebook
> >   o Add to Mixx!Mixx it!
> >   o Reddit
> >
> >   What is this?
> > * Take Action
> > * Web Letters (2)
> > * Write a Letter!
> > * Subscribe Now
> >
> > Robert Scheer is the editor of Truthdig, where this article originally
> appeared. His latest book is The Pornography of Power: How Defense Hawks
> Hijacked 9/11 and Weakened America(Twelve).
> >
> > This is crazy! Forget the bleating of Rush Limbaugh; the problem is not
> with the quite reasonable and, if anything, underfunded stimulus package,
> which in any case will be debated long and hard in Congress. The problem is
> with what is not being debated: the far more expensive Wall Street bailout
> that is being pushed through--as in the case of the latest AIG rescue--in
> secret, hurried deal-making primarily by the unelected secretary of the
> treasury and the chairman of the Federal Reserve.
> >
> > Share this article
> >
> > *
> > *
> > *
> > * Add to Mixx!
> > *
> > *
> >
> > * Related
> > * Also By
> >
> > *
> >   Comes the Change
> >
> >   U.S. Economy
> >
> >   Robert L. Borosage: Obama's first budget is an audacious plan to
> transform America. But in sad testament to how deeply we've fallen, it is
> not bold enough.
> > *
> >   Am

[obrolan-bandar] You must be Mad to buy Citigroup stock. Re: peraturan delisting NYSE mengenai

[cendrawira]

Greetings, memang betapa tempting untuk memiliki behemoth seperti citigroup 
dengan seharga U$ 1 / stock. tapi apakah anda tau kalau citigroup itu sudah 
menjadi zombie bank , istilah bank yang sudah mati tapi di-animate oleh US 
government untuk menjaga citra dan shockwave financial collapse kalau dibiarkan 
file for chapter 11. saya tidak mau omong panjang lebar, yang namanya high risk 
juga memberikan high reward. Prince Alwaleed membuat namanya karena di tahun 
90an dia membeli saham citi seharga U$ 2 dan menyentuh 50an di peaknya. 
sekarang kolega2 saya mengibaratkan saham citigroup seperti US lottery, bisa 
bikin bust dan kaya. it's your call. bisa aja dukungan politik2 membuat bank 
ini hidup lagi seperti kasus perbankan indonesia di tahun 1998, contoh BCA, 
dari setengah mati akhirnya bisa jadi kuda hitam perbankan nasional. tapi let 
me give you a good head up, market kapitalisasi citigroup skrng sisa U$6.2B , 
dan US government akan tetap menginjek U$ 45 billion buat common shares di 
city, saudara punya otak sendiri 6.2/45 = 0.137 Dilution. sekarang ambil saja 
harga pasaran citigroup dikalikan 0.137 , dan anda akan mendapatkan harga asli 
citigroup. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR CITIGROUP. sebenarnya ada bank amerika yang akan 
menjadi survivor dan paling besar setelah ekonomi amerika recover dan harga 
sahamnya akan naik hingga 200%. kalau anda rajin sedikit anda bisa riset dan 
mengetahui bank apa itu, sekarang 1/2 harta saya, saya telah benamkan untuk 
membeli bank itu. GOOD LUCK !!!


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "adjies2000"  wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hoki Tralala  wrote:
> >
> > AIG sama eropa hubungannya apa ya? :-)
> 
> 
> reply :
> 
> AIG dari bisnis traditional asuransi sudah berubah menjadi raksasa sebagai 
> HedgeFunD dan hancur lebur...bisnis AIG yang sudah kait mengkait dengan 
> ekonomi Europa, dampak domino yang akan membuat system Banking, Insurance, 
> PensionFund dll berantakan.
> 
> "AIG used to be in the conventional insurance business, covering identifiable 
> risks it knew something about, until it took advantage of deregulation and a 
> lack of government surveillance to come up with contrived new financial 
> products. Even Maurice Greenberg, the man who built AIG from the ground up 
> over a span of 40 years before he was forced out amid corruption charges in 
> 2005, admits that he didn't understand the newfangled financial gimmicks that 
> the company was peddling. This week, claiming he too was swindled, Greenberg 
> sued in federal court, charging the AIG execs who forced him out with "gross, 
> wanton or willful fraud or other morally culpable conduct," over the credit 
> default swap portfolio that was part of his settlement.
> 
> US taxpayers now have ownership of almost 80 percent of AIG, but with the 
> company's once solid traditional insurance business now suffering a steep 
> loss of consumer confidence, it's not likely that even the formerly healthy 
> parts of the company will be worth much. What we have here is all pain and no 
> gain for the taxpayers roped into this debacle, which is proving to be the 
> story of the entire banking bailout. '
> 
> Reference dibawah ini.
> 
> regards
> 
> AIG: Billions Dished Out in the Dark
> By Robert Scheer
> 
> March 4, 2009
> 
> * Email
> * Print
> * Share
>   o Buzz up!
>   o Buzzflash
>   o del.icio.us
>   o Digg
>   o Facebook
>   o Add to Mixx!Mixx it!
>   o Reddit
> 
>   What is this?
> * Take Action
> * Web Letters (2)
> * Write a Letter!
> * Subscribe Now
> 
> Robert Scheer is the editor of Truthdig, where this article originally 
> appeared. His latest book is The Pornography of Power: How Defense Hawks 
> Hijacked 9/11 and Weakened America(Twelve).
> 
> This is crazy! Forget the bleating of Rush Limbaugh; the problem is not with 
> the quite reasonable and, if anything, underfunded stimulus package, which in 
> any case will be debated long and hard in Congress. The problem is with what 
> is not being debated: the far more expensive Wall Street bailout that is 
> being pushed through--as in the case of the latest AIG rescue--in secret, 
> hurried deal-making primarily by the unelected secretary of the treasury and 
> the chairman of the Federal Reserve.
> 
> Share this article
> 
> *
> *
> *
> * Add to Mixx!
> *
> *
> 
> * Related
> * Also By
> 
> *
>   Comes the Change
> 
>   U.S. Economy
> 
>   Robert L. Borosage: Obama's first budget is an audacious plan to 
> transform America. But in sad testament to how deeply we've fallen, it is not 
> bold enough.
> *
>   America Is #... 15? Subscribe
> 
>   U.S. Economy
> 
>   Dalton Conley: Because of income inequality, the United States scores 
> poorly on a new index of general well-being.
> *
>   A Bank Bailout That Works
> 
>   U.S. Economy
> 
>   Joseph E. Stiglitz

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Pgas

[jsx_consultant]

Embah kirim tehnikal AALI...

http://www.trader2000.com/piwaali.htm

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Joe Grunk  wrote:
>
> Mbah,
> 
> PGAS mau tunggu diberapa nih?
> 
> AALI juga mau ditunggu di berapa?
> 
> 
> 
>   Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari 
> Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! 
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] oh...Hukum dan Aturan Main

[vaulstrad]

Iya parah..
Akhirnya harus keluar duit lagi buat ambil motornya
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From: Syahrul Ramadhan 

Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:03:13 
To: 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] oh...Hukum dan Aturan Main


Jadi ingat cerita istri temannya pulang malam didaerah lima
(cinere). dan motornya mau dirampok tapi dia malawan . dan
siperampok malah menuduh dia yang merampok didepan warga daerah sana, tapi
setelah diterangkan akhirnya warga percaya yang merampok bukan dia
akhirnya si perampok diserahkan ke polisi tapi motornya di tahan polisi
jadi barang bukti lapor salah (motor jadi barang bukit) tidak lapor yang
jahat tidak dapat hukuman.

sr

2009/3/8 JAmin amin 

>  Aneh bin Ajaib masalah pemindahan saham di Sarijaya, sama seperti orang
> kemalingan,  malingnya sdh ditangkap dan sdh ngaku, e yang punya barang
> (korban) masih nggak bisa ambil kembali barangnya. Di mana HUKUM di mana
> ATURAN main seperti ini-lah saat ini !
> Ini pembelajaran yang paling berharga buat investor, bukan cuma FA, TA
> segala . kalau sdh ditelap seperti ini jadi apa ..
>
> maaf  yaa.mBah sedikit unek2 ini daripada dipendam
>
> --
>  Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai!
> 
> Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com.
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] TLKM: Elliott wave trading example

[jsx_consultant]

TLKM: Elliott wave trading example


Embah kirim contoh penggunaan Elliott wave untuk trading pada
saham TLKM

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwltlkm.htm

Example of Elliott Wave Trading:

ASUMSI:
-  Wave 123 biru adalah IMPULSE wave 12345
-  Wave 123 hijau adalah INTERNAL wave dari
wave 3 biru 12345
CONFIRMASI:
- 3 hijau harus lebih tinggi dari 1 hijau sebagai
  confirmasi terbentuknya Impulse wave 12345 hijau
- 3 biru haru lebih tinggi dari 1 biru sebagaii
  confirmasi terbentuknya impulse wave 12345 biru
TRADING:
- BUY jika 3 hijau lebih tinggi dari 1 hijau
- BUY MORE jika 3 biru lebih tinggi dari 1 biru
TARGET:
- Wave 3 tingginya 162% Wave 1
CUT LOST/RISK:
- Jika wave 3 jatuh dibawah wave 1   

Re: [obrolan-bandar] oh...Hukum dan Aturan Main

[Syahrul Ramadhan]

Jadi ingat cerita istri temannya pulang malam didaerah lima
(cinere). dan motornya mau dirampok tapi dia malawan . dan
siperampok malah menuduh dia yang merampok didepan warga daerah sana, tapi
setelah diterangkan akhirnya warga percaya yang merampok bukan dia
akhirnya si perampok diserahkan ke polisi tapi motornya di tahan polisi
jadi barang bukti lapor salah (motor jadi barang bukit) tidak lapor yang
jahat tidak dapat hukuman.

sr

2009/3/8 JAmin amin 

>  Aneh bin Ajaib masalah pemindahan saham di Sarijaya, sama seperti orang
> kemalingan,  malingnya sdh ditangkap dan sdh ngaku, e yang punya barang
> (korban) masih nggak bisa ambil kembali barangnya. Di mana HUKUM di mana
> ATURAN main seperti ini-lah saat ini !
> Ini pembelajaran yang paling berharga buat investor, bukan cuma FA, TA
> segala . kalau sdh ditelap seperti ini jadi apa ..
>
> maaf  yaa.mBah sedikit unek2 ini daripada dipendam
>
> --
>  Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai!
> 
> Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com.
>
> 
>

[obrolan-bandar] oh...Hukum dan Aturan Main

[JAmin amin]

Aneh bin Ajaib masalah pemindahan saham di Sarijaya, sama seperti orang 
kemalingan,  malingnya sdh ditangkap dan sdh ngaku, e yang punya barang 
(korban) masih nggak bisa ambil kembali barangnya. Di mana HUKUM di mana ATURAN 
main seperti ini-lah saat ini !
Ini pembelajaran yang paling berharga buat investor, bukan cuma FA, TA segala 
. kalau sdh ditelap seperti ini jadi apa ..

maaf  yaa.mBah sedikit unek2 ini daripada dipendam


  Kenapa BBM mesti naik? Apakah tidak ada solusi selain itu? Temukan 
jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! http://id.answers.yahoo.com

[obrolan-bandar] Re: 1997 vs. Today: Stocks, Commodities, Economy

[adjies2000]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kusumo k  wrote:
>
> Pak ada artikel untuk 1997 vs. Today tapi utk kampung kita sendiri ?
> Thanks ya

Hello,

Sekedar info bagi Trader BEI, kita selalu mengacu kepada DowJones, regional 
untuk prediksi BEI dan saham2 individual,dan selama beras, tempe tahu, 
roti, indomie, StarBuck  yang kita makan/minum "mengawini" USD,

apa boleh buat ? Di USA bersin(Leading Indicator), kita sudah batuk2---(lagging 
Indicator)

apalagi dengan hadirnya Hedgefund..intermarket portfolionya sering membuat 
TA + FA local stock melongo
contoh : Jual Stock BEI (tidak ada hujan angin) untuk dibelikan in Oil atau 
Gold visa versa,


Salam




> 
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:11 AM, adjies2000  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Thursday, 5 Mar 2009
> > 1997 vs. Today: Stocks, Commodities, Economy
> > Posted By: Giovanny Moreano | Yolaiki Gonzalez | Ariel Nelson
> > Topics:Gold & Precious Metals | Oil | Economy (U.S.) | Commodities | Dow
> > Jones Industrial Average | Stock Market
> >
> > Following a sharp drop in the Dow to 1997 levels, here is a look back at
> > that time in history. While stocks are back to 12 year lows, most other
> > things are not the same.
> >
> > Major Indices:
> >
> > 1997
> >
> > * The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 7908.25 on 12/31/97, up
> > 1,459.98 points for the year, or 22.64%.
> > * It hit an intraday high for the year of 8299.49 on 8/7/97
> > * It hit an intraday low for the year of 6352.82 on 1/2/97
> > * In 1997, the Dow closed up 54.5% of the time and down 45.5% of the time
> > * In terms of yearly percent gains from 1997 to 2008, the Dow had its third
> > largest percent increase in 1997. The best yearly percent gain during these
> > years was on 2003 (25.32%), followed by 1999 (25.22%).
> > * The S&P 500 closed at 970.43 on 12/31/97, up 229.69 points for the year,
> > or 31.01%.
> > * It hit an intraday high for the year of 986.2 on 12/5/97
> > * It hit an intraday low for the year of 729.6 on 1/2/97
> > * In 1997, the S&P closed up 55.5% of the time an down 44.5% of the time
> > * The NASDAQ Composite closed at 1570.35 on 12/31/97, up 279.32 points for
> > the year, or 21.64%.
> > * It hit an intraday high for the year of 1748.62 on 10/9/97
> > * It hit an intraday low for the year of 1194.39 on 4/22/97
> > * In 1997, the NASDAQ closed up 57.3% of the time and down 42.7% of the
> > time
> >
> > 2008
> >
> > * The Dow fell 4488.43 points to close at 8776.39, down 33.84% for the year
> > * The S&P fell 565.11 points to close at 903.25 , down 38.49% for the year
> > * The NASDAQ Composite fell 1075.25 points to close at 1577.03 on 12/31/08,
> > down 40.54% for the year
> >
> > 2009
> >
> > * The Dow closed on 3/3/09 at 6726.02, its lowest close since April 21,
> > 1997
> > So far this year, the Dow has traded between a range of 9088.06 and 6705.63
> > Year-to-date, the Dow is down 21.7%
> > * The S&P 500 closed on 3/3/09 at 696.33, its lowest close since October
> > 10, 1996
> > * The S&P has traded between a range of 944.28 and 692.69 so far this year
> > * Year-to-date, the S&P is down 21.1%
> > * The NASDAQ Composite closed on 3/3/09 at 1321.01, 4.89 points away from
> > its 11/7/08 through.
> > * The NASDAQ has traded between a range of 1665.63 and 1312.98 so far this
> > year
> > Year-to-date, the NASDAQ is down 14.2%
> >
> > Commodities:
> >
> > 1997
> >
> > * Crude oil closed at $17.64 per barrel on 12/31/97, down $8.28 for the
> > year, or 31.94%
> > * It hit an intraday high for the year of $26.24 per barrel on 1/9/97
> > * It hit an intraday low for the year of $17.50 per barrel on 12/30/97
> > * Gold closed at $293.6 per 100 Troy Oz, down $75.6 for the year, or
> > 20.48%.
> > * It hit an intraday high for the year of $369.4 per 100 Troy Oz, on 1/2/97
> > * It hit an intraday low for the year of $283.3 per 100 Troy Oz., on
> > 12/9/97
> >
> > 2008
> >
> > * Crude oil closed at $44.6 per barrel on 12/31/08, down 53.53% for the
> > year
> > * Traded between a range of $147.27 and $35.13
> > * Gold closed at $884.3 per 100 Troy Oz. on 12/31/08, up 5.53% for the year
> > * Traded between a range of $1033.9 and $681
> >
> > 2009
> >
> > * Crude oil has traded between a range of $50.47 and $33.2 so far this year
> > * Year-to-date, it is up 1.75%
> > * Gold has traded between a range of $1007.7 and $801.5 so far this year
> > * Year-to-date, it is up 2.53%
> >
> > Unleaded, Regular Gasoline Average Retail Price (Energy Information
> > Administration):
> >
> > 1997 Average Price: $1.234/gallon
> > 1997 High/Low: September at a monthly average of $1.277/gallon & December
> > at a monthly average of $1.177/gallon
> >
> > 2008 Average Price: $3.266/gallon
> > 2008 High/Low: July at a monthly average of $4.09/gallon & December at a
> > monthly average of $1.689/gallon
> >
> > Economy:
> >
> > Average Unemployment Rate (Annual):
> > 1996: 5.41%
> > 1997: 4.94%
> > 2008 : 5.81%
> >
> > 1996 High/Low: Jan., Apr., May at 5.6% & August at 5.1%
> > 1997 High/L

[obrolan-bandar] Re: peraturan delisting NYSE mengenai

[adjies2000]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Hoki Tralala  wrote:
>
> AIG sama eropa hubungannya apa ya? :-)


reply :

AIG dari bisnis traditional asuransi sudah berubah menjadi raksasa sebagai 
HedgeFunD dan hancur lebur...bisnis AIG yang sudah kait mengkait dengan 
ekonomi Europa, dampak domino yang akan membuat system Banking, Insurance, 
PensionFund dll berantakan.

"AIG used to be in the conventional insurance business, covering identifiable 
risks it knew something about, until it took advantage of deregulation and a 
lack of government surveillance to come up with contrived new financial 
products. Even Maurice Greenberg, the man who built AIG from the ground up over 
a span of 40 years before he was forced out amid corruption charges in 2005, 
admits that he didn't understand the newfangled financial gimmicks that the 
company was peddling. This week, claiming he too was swindled, Greenberg sued 
in federal court, charging the AIG execs who forced him out with "gross, wanton 
or willful fraud or other morally culpable conduct," over the credit default 
swap portfolio that was part of his settlement.

US taxpayers now have ownership of almost 80 percent of AIG, but with the 
company's once solid traditional insurance business now suffering a steep loss 
of consumer confidence, it's not likely that even the formerly healthy parts of 
the company will be worth much. What we have here is all pain and no gain for 
the taxpayers roped into this debacle, which is proving to be the story of the 
entire banking bailout. '

Reference dibawah ini.

regards

AIG: Billions Dished Out in the Dark
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March 4, 2009

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This is crazy! Forget the bleating of Rush Limbaugh; the problem is not with 
the quite reasonable and, if anything, underfunded stimulus package, which in 
any case will be debated long and hard in Congress. The problem is with what is 
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[obrolan-bandar] The 5 biggest lies on Wall Street(2)

[adjies2000]

The 5 biggest lies on Wall Street

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Big Lie No. 3: Buy and hold
Anyone who has followed this advice since the late 1990s now feels deceived. 
"Buy and hold" once seemed so obvious. Over the long haul, stocks advance 10% 
to 12% a year, goes the mantra. So you can't ever go wrong adding money to 
stock funds -- as long as you don't act like a wild day trader.

The problem was that investors and financial advisers use an assessment of risk 
tolerance to determine exposure to various asset classes like stocks, bonds and 
cash.

Then the level of risk in the stock market changed violently. But investors -- 
or their financial advisers -- didn't adjust their portfolios away from stocks 
toward safer assets like cash, says Axel Merk of Merk Mutual Funds in Palo 
Alto, Calif. "If the risks in the markets change, your investment allocations 
must also change," he says.

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But how were we supposed to know that the risks of owning stocks had increased?

One early signal began to emerge in 2007, when market volatility started to 
increase rapidly, Merk says. Another sign was that excessive debt throughout 
the system had driven corporate profits to abnormally high levels, setting up 
investors for a big fall, says money manager John Hussman, the president of the 
Hussman Investment Trust.

Hussman warned investors of this risk early on. But, he says, because of Big 
Lie No. 2, many experts and Wall Street professionals "were unwilling to 
entertain any concern that threatened to stop the gravy train."
Big Lie No. 4: Overpaid CEOs are worth the money
Whenever I write about greedy CEOs who get paid too much, company PR machines 
trot out the old saw that pay has to be so high "to attract the best talent."

Oh, really?
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* Why the CEO salary cap is a joke

Then why are we suffering such a deep recession and huge market losses? After 
all, the CEOs at the banks that got us into this mess were paid like kings. 
Let's take a look at some of the consequences -- and predictions -- brought to 
us by the supposed "top" talent purchased with all that money:

An extreme underappreciation of his problems. At Lehman Bros.' very last annual 
meeting in April 2008, then-CEO Richard Fuld opined that "the worst of the 
impact of the financial markets is behind us."

In June, he told investors the investment bank was "well-positioned" because of 
efforts to strengthen its balance sheet.

Fuld was supposed to be a "top talent"; Lehman had paid him more than $186.5 
million in salary, bonuses and profits from stock options in the prior three 
years, according to Equilar, an executive compensation research firm.

Yet by autumn, Lehman vanished, setting off the October 2008 market crash. It 
had been killed by mortgage-backed securities and other investments made on 
Fuld's watch.

The cost of moving too fast. On Sept. 15, Bank of America (BAC, news, msgs) CEO 
Ken Lewis announced that the banking giant was buying Merrill Lynch, saying the 
deal -- cobbled together over a weekend -- was "a great opportunity" for 
shareholders because together the companies would be "more valuable" due to 
synergies.

Lewis had taken home $98.6 million from 2005 to 2007, so you'd think he would 
know what he was talking about. So far, he's been terribly wrong.

Bank of America reported a $21.5 billion fourth-quarter loss. The government 
responded by injecting $20 billion in new capital Jan. 16 and guaranteeing $118 
billion in potential losses from the Merrill Lynch deal.

The stock has been crushed. Bank of America closed at $33.74 the Friday before 
the deal was struck. It fell to $26.55 on Sept. 15. It dropped to as low as 
$3.77 on Feb. 5 before recovering to $5.57 on Friday.

What seems clear is that these executives were blissfully ignorant of the 
growing risks to their businesses or simply chose to ignore them.

And despite all the bad press about CEOs raking in millions for lousy 
performance, the tricks continue. D.R. Horton (DHI, news, msgs), the nation's 
largest homebuilder, lost a whopping $8.34 per share in fiscal 2008, which 
ended Sept. 30. The stock has fallen 79% since July 2005.

Yet Chairman Donald Horton and CEO Donald Tomnitz collected $5.4 million and 
$4.4 million, respectively, for the year, including $1.8 million each in 
performance pay. They were rewarded for hitting benchmarks on cost cutting, 
pretax income and operating cash flow.

None of this is new. CEOs have been collecting big bucks for lousy performances 
for years.

[obrolan-bandar] The 5 biggest lies on Wall Street(1)

[adjies2000]

The 5 biggest lies on Wall Street

These are the tenets you counted on for years, like 'buy and hold' and heed the 
advice of 'experts.' Keep these whoppers in mind as you plan your financial 
future.
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By Michael Brush

If you had any money in stocks in the past few years, you might be feeling 
pretty dumb right now -- since you're down more than 40% on those "investments."

But stop being so hard on yourself. Yes, you probably should have pulled more 
money out in time.

But on the other hand, you were probably suckered by any number of big lies 
foisted on you by Wall Street and market players who stood to profit.

Here are the five biggest lies that probably hurt you the most and will be 
worth remembering in the future.
Big Lie No. 1: The market will take care of everything
Remember Ronald Reagan's line, "Government isn't the solution to our problems; 
government is the problem"? The Gipper may have had some great political 
insights, but the train wreck in the market shows this one wasn't one of them.

During most of this decade, Wall Street lobbyists persuaded would-be regulators 
in the Bush administration to lay off. "The markets" would find the best 
solutions to any problems on their own.

In the free-for-all that ensued, the Wall Street Masters of the Universe made 
untold millions -- and left us with huge problems. The damage caused by all the 
tricks, scams and skullduggery has cost more than $7 trillion in market losses 
so far, not to mention millions of jobs and a deep recession.

* Talk back: Do you feel betrayed by Wall Street lies?

"We convinced ourselves that the inmates could regulate themselves, and 
obviously that was wrong," says Christopher Whalen of Institutional Risk 
Analytics, a financial consulting firm. "If we are going to let people buy 
public policy, then we are going to get stupid things."

Perhaps the biggest gaffe was allowing a multitrillion-dollar market in credit 
default swaps -- a kind of loan insurance -- to develop with no oversight or 
regulation. This was just plain dumb, and we'll continue to pay the price. Too 
much CDS exposure helped take down Lehman Bros. (LEHMQ, news, msgs) and 
American International Group (AIG, news, msgs). They lost big by insuring 
complex securities backed by bad home mortgage loans.
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Of course, none of this could have happened if regulators hadn't looked the 
other way as mortgage originators handed home loans to anyone who could fog a 
mirror. They didn't care because the loans could be sold to Wall Street banks, 
repackaged as securities and sold again to investors.

"A shadow banking system developed to originate and sell mortgages outside the 
regulated banking system, and we ignored it," says William Isaac, a former 
chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and now head of the Secura 
Group, a division of national consulting firm LECG.

Even regulators who were supposed to be policing the market often did a lousy 
job during this "free market" era.

One example: Early this decade, a statistical wonk named Harry Markopolos had 
figured out that the investment vehicle that Bernard Madoff was promoting to 
well-heeled investors was a classic Ponzi scheme. Markopolos alerted the 
Securities and Exchange Commission, which failed to act until investors had 
lost billions.
Big Lie No. 2: The 'experts' will help you
Many of us rely on the "experts" for guidance in the market, and they failed us 
miserably.

Most mutual funds are down as much as the market -- or worse. The geniuses 
running hedge funds did little better. A few commentators managed to forecast 
the market disaster; most missed it.

There's a simple reason why they missed the coming carnage, says David Loeper, 
the CEO of Wealthcare Capital Management in Richmond, Va., and author of "Stop 
the Investing Rip-off: How to Avoid Being a Victim and Make More Money," due 
out in June.

The "experts" have conflicts of interest. Mutual funds, hedge funds and 
brokerages want to keep you at the table so that they can continue to earn fees 
from your nest egg. "They don't care if you win or lose, they just want you to 
keep playing the game," Loeper says.
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After Jan Cone's retirement funds dried up in the market downturn, she found 
herself hunting for a new job. The Wall Street Journal reports on how she made 
the transition back.

They often pitch whatever is hot -- commodities and emerging markets come to 
mind -- at 

Re: [obrolan-bandar] peraturan delisting NYSE mengenai

[Hoki Tralala]

AIG sama eropa hubungannya apa ya? :-)

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:58 PM, adjies2000  wrote:

>
> Hello.
>
> ADa yang tahu peraturan delisting NYSE mengenai batasan harga saham untuk
> Delisting ?
>
> Dari Rule 496=501A tidak kelihatan secara spesific.
>
> Contoh kasus :
>
> Bears Stern - harga terus turun dibawah USD 1. 0.8, 0.4 sampai NOL
>
> Citicorp semalam ditutup USD 1.01
> = Tidak mungkin Delisting meskipun harga dibawah USD 1 (apa betul ?)
>
> = To big To fail, 40% saham sudah dibeli Pemerintah US. ? % milik ABU Dhabi
>
> = US Banking adalah kunci dari recovery US economy, pasti di Bail-out
> habis2an(dikeluarkan/diambilalih Toxic asset dari Balancesheet(pakai SPV)
> dan disuntik modal baru), seperti juga AIG mati2 di suntik karena kejatuhan
> AIG akan menghancurkan ecomomy Europe
>
> IT is the time to Buy Citicorp Stock !
>
> Pls comment
>
> Salam
>
> ==
> Listing and Delisting (Rule 496—501A)
> Rule 496. Requirements for Independent Agents Acting As or In Lieu of New
> York City Transfer Agents of Securities Listed on New York Stock Exchange,
> Inc.
>
> [ Rule 496 was removed as part of NYSE-2004-62; please see NYSE Listed
> Company Manual 601.01 for information regarding Transfer Agents.]
>
> Adopted.
>
> June 24, 1971.
>
> Amended.
>
> July 5, 2005 (NYSE-2004-62).
> Rule 497. Additional Requirements for Listed Securities Issued by NYSE
> Euronext or its Affiliates
>
> (a) For purposes of this Rule 497 the terms below are defined as follows:
>
> (1) "NYSE Euronext Affiliate" means NYSE Euronext ( "NYSE Euronext") and
> any entity that directly or indirectly, through one or more intermediaries,
> controls, is controlled by, or is under common control with NYSE Euronext,
> where "control" means that one entity possesses, directly or indirectly,
> voting control of the other entity either through ownership of capital stock
> or other equity securities or through majority representation on the board
> of directors or other management body of such entity.
>
> (2) "Affiliate Security" means any security issued by a NYSE Euronext
> Affiliate, with the exception of Investment Company Units as defined in
> Para. 703.16 of the Listed Company Manual.
>
> (3) "New York Stock Exchange LLC" (the "Exchange") is a wholly owned
> subsidiary of NYSE Euronext.
>
> (4) "NYSE Market, Inc." ( "NYSE Market") is a wholly owned subsidiary of
> the Exchange. NYSE Market is the entity that will manage the Floor trading
> of securities.
>
> (5) "NYSE Regulation, Inc." ( "NYSE Regulation") is a wholly owned
> subsidiary of the Exchange and will perform the self-regulatory organization
> responsibilities pertaining to regulating the NYSE Market and the Exchange.
>
> (b) Prior to the initial listing of the Affiliate Security on the Exchange,
> NYSE Regulation shall determine that such securities satisfy New York Stock
> Exchange LLC's rules for listing, and such finding must be approved by the
> NYSE Regulation Board of Directors.
>
> (c) Throughout the continued listing of the Affiliate Security on the
> Exchange, NYSE Regulation shall
>
> (1) prepare a quarterly report on the Affiliate Security for the NYSE
> Regulation board of directors that describes: (a) the NYSE Regulation's
> monitoring of the Affiliate Security's compliance with the Exchange's
> listing standards, including, (i) the Affiliate Security's compliance with
> the Exchange's minimum share price requirement and (ii) the Affiliate
> Security's compliance with each of the quantitative continued listing
> requirements; and (b) NYSE's Regulation's monitoring of the trading of the
> Affiliate Security including summaries of all related surveillance alerts,
> complaints, regulatory referrals, adjusted trades, investigations,
> examinations, formal and informal disciplinary actions, exception reports
> and trading data used to ensure that the Affiliate Security's compliance
> with the Exchange's listing and trading rules. A copy of said report will be
> forwarded promptly to the Securities and Exchange Commission (
> "Commission").
>
> (2) Once a year, an independent accounting firm shall review the listing
> standards for the Affiliate Security to insure that the issuer is in
> compliance with the listing requirements and a copy of the report shall be
> forwarded promptly to the Commission.
>
> (3) In the event that NYSE Regulation determines that the Affiliate
> Security is not in compliance with any of the Exchange's listing standards,
> NYSE Regulation shall notify the issuer of such non-compliance promptly and
> request a plan of compliance. NYSE Regulation shall file a report with the
> Commission within five business days of providing such notice to the issuer
> of its non-compliance. The report shall identify the date of the
> non-compliance, type of non-compliance, and any other material information
> conveyed to the issuer in the notice of non-compliance. Within five business
> days of receipt of a plan 

Re: OLD POST: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INDEX STRUCTURAL DAMAGE....Re: Index Asia Pacific bau TAI KUCING

[fifi young]

Long week end nech Pak Rei,
saya malah larinya ke OB, hihihi... a.d.d.i.c.t.e.d.



2009/3/7 Rei 

>   Betul bu, skrg mending konsen ke yg lain dulu...saham mah lagi
> b.o.r.i.n.g.
> Have a nice w/e!
>
>
> 2009/3/6 fifi young 
>
>Pak Rei lucu juga ya...
>> sekarang jadi half-nubie... hihi...
>> ngga deh, saya serahkan kembali ke Pak Rei yang bertanya,
>> saya tinggal ngebuntut doank 'kan lebih gampang...
>> kemaren mah becanda aja, kalo 'ga gitu 'kan 'ga rame.
>> Saya uda 2 minggu lagi males, hari ini juga. Bentar lagi mo keluar...
>> Saya cuma nonton doank, itupun sekali2 aja, lagi banyak masalah yang
>> harus diselesaikan. Jadi 'ga focus/konsen.
>> Kalo Pak Rei Half-Nubie,
>> saya three-quat jadinya...? haha...[?][?]
>> St...! 'tar diomelin Mbah nech pagi2 uda ngobrol bukannya kerja...!
>> hihi...[?][?]
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/6 Rei 
>>
>>>Hehe ok deh Bu, nanti saya persilahkan bu Fifi yang nanya. Hari ini
>>> borong apa nih? Dow merah berat tuh...
>>> Reg juga. Good luck ya bu!
>>> Half-nubie
>>>2009/3/5 fifi young 
>>>
   Eeeiiit..
 Nubie lagi..!
 Bukannya uda bertaon-taon di OB...?

 Kalo Rei nanya mulu... saya jadi ga kebagian quota
 soalnya semua pertanyaan uda ditanya 'ma Pak Rei.
 Jadi yang pinter sapa...?
 Ya Pak Rei-lah... soalnya selalu ngeduluin saya..
 Qeqeqeq..

 canda.com



  2009/3/5 Rei 

>Thank you pak...kolestrol tinggi tuh. Sama kayak Bumi huehehe
> Bu fifi, memang saya nanya mulu, maklum newbie...habis kan blm sepintar
> bu Fifi :-)
>
>  2009/3/5 Boys n Girls 
>
>>   Special buat pak Rei
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/5 Rei 
>>
>>>   Hahaha bu Fifi kocak dah! Di salon tiap hari pada ketawa melulu
>>> kali ya
>>>
>>> 2009/3/5 Cumi Cabe Ijo 
>>>
   Duh, saya jangan dibakar dong bu!
 Cukup porto saya aja yang gosong tadi ditinggal kulakan sebentar

 WARNING: Cumi-cumi mengandung 1,170mg kolesterol per 10 gr,
 sedangkan daging ayam tanpa kulit hanya 50mg saja.


 2009/3/5 fifi young 

> Cumi punya warung dimana...?
> Nanti saya mampir ngeborong CUMI buat dibakar.
> Hmmm... kalo CUMI dah dibakar,
> yang nongol di OB jadi CUMI GOSONG donk ye...? Hahaha...
>
> Neh CUMI cewe pa cowo...?
> Liat dari gayanya sech tukang masak...hihi...
>
>
> .
>

>>
>

>>>
>>
>  
>
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA: Apakah sejarah berulang ?

[fifi young]

Hmmm...
Seharian keliling2 nyari CUMI,
tapi 'ga dapet...

kalo dapet mach uda 'ta bakar CUMI-nya...
hehehe... [?][?][?]

* cumi bakar mentega..., mmm... enak juga...
  nyam, nyam, nyam.. [?][?][?]


On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Cumi Cabe Ijo  wrote:

>   nyari software gratisan tapi realtime
>
> cari saham yang murah tapi ngasih gain dan dividen gede
>
> nyari sekuritas yang gratis fee tapi aman
>
> nyari milis yang analisnya ok tapi gak bayar
>
> nyari  tapi.
>
> have a nice long weekend, everyone!
>
> bu fifi di salon apa beli cumi yah?
>
>
> On 3/7/09, indeksbei3...@gmail.com  <
> indeksbei3...@gmail.com > wrote:
> > Yg gratisan tp real time? Ga ada kayanya.
> > Kalau RTI bisa lewat RTI Mobile. Bayar.
> > Lewat IPOT jg bisa.
> > Ada lg IDX Mobile. Ini punya BEI. Bayar jg tp Murah Kok.
> >
> > Salam BB
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung
> > Teruuusss...!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: ft...@yahoo.com 
> >
> > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:42:05
> > To: >
> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA: Apakah sejarah berulang ?
> >
> >
> > Mbah dan teman2 semua, ada yg tahu tdk kalau mau lihat pergerakan saham
> bei
> > dr blackberry masuk ke website apa ya? Kalau rti tdk bisa quick quote...
> > Atau ada software apa yg bisa didownload? Tapi yg gratisan ya, thanks in
> > advance
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "jsx_consultant" 
> > 
> >
> >
> > Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:45:28
> > To: >
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA: Apakah sejarah berulang ?
> >
> >
> > BBCA: Apakah sejarah berulang ?
> >
> >
> > BBCA perbah dijadikan KUDA HITAM untuk menjaga IHSG tahun lalu
> > ketika krisis global memburuk (Juy 2008).
> >
> > Apakah INI akan berulang ? (Maret 2009)
> >
> > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlbank.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> WARNING: Cumi-cumi mengandung 1,170mg kolesterol per 10 gr, sedangkan
> daging ayam tanpa kulit hanya 50mg saja.
>  
>
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[obrolan-bandar] Pgas

[Joe Grunk]

Mbah,

PGAS mau tunggu diberapa nih?

AALI juga mau ditunggu di berapa?



  Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari 
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[obrolan-bandar] The Art of Volume Analysis(Part1) Introduction

[orang baru]

This post originally posted at


http://trend-traders.com/ 


Introduction

Volume merupakan kajian terpenting setelah harga.  Volume dalam teknikal
analisis mencerminkan "kebenaran" suatu trend. Apakah trend yang
sedang terjadi sehat atau tidak, volume merupakan salah satu indikator
penentunya.

Jika market bergerak, baik itu bullish maupun bearish, maka kekuatan
pergerakan trend tersebut sangat bergantung pada volume yang ada pada
suatu periode tertentu. Dengan memonitor dan memperhatikan pergerakan
volume kita dapat menangkap peluang ketika ketika harga sedang bergerak
dengan cepat.

Pergerakan yang sangat penting tersebut biasanya terjadi dalam bentuk
"spike" atau terjadi dalam waktu yang singkat, dan biasanya
diikutin peningkatan volume dibanding ketika market sedang bergerak
dalam kondisi normal.

volume dapat membantu kita untuk mepersiapkan diri sebelum terjadi
breakout harga dengan melakukan identifikasi range katika harga sedang
bergerak dalam kondisi  flat atau sideways.


  [Gambar 1. menunjukkan adanya high volume ketika  harga bergerak dalam
trend dan kondisi volume ketika harga bergerak sideways]
Gambar 1. menunjukkan adanya "high" volume ketika harga bergerak dalam
trend dan kondisi volume ketika harga bergerak "sideways"

Dalam gambar diatas ketika harga dalam range volume cenderung kecil, dan
ketika harga breakout dari range maka terjadi "high" volume.

Importance

Volume adalah hal yang sangat penting untuk diperhatikan ketika banyak
terjadi transaksi dalam satu periode perdagangan, karena hal tersebut
dapat menunjukkan seberapa banyak pembeli dan penjual yang sedang
bertransaksi dalam satu harga tertentu. Dalam konsep trend semakin
banyak partisipan dalam market dalam suatu rentang trend tertentu maka
trend tersebut dapat dikatakan trend yang sehat, kesepakatan antara
pembeli dan penjual ketika terjadi trend atau pergerakan harga mutlak
diperlukan. Tanpa adanya partisipan yang cukup ketiha harga sedang
bergerak maka bisa diartikan bahwa banyak orang yang berminat terhadap
harga yang sedang bergerak. Semakin banyak peminat/partisipan maka hal
itu menjukkan bahwa kenaikan atau penurunan harga yang terjadi didukung
oleh sebagian besar partisipan. Jika volume yang terjadi adalah kecil
maka hal tersebut menjukkan bahwa peminat/partisipan pada harga itu
sangat sedikit, atau dapat dikatakan harga tersebut tidak disetujui oleh
sebagian besar pelaku market.

Fact About Volume

- Volume harus diigunakan sebagai bukti nyata dari sebuah trend bukan
sebagai bukti utama.

- Volume dapat digunakanuntuk mengkonfirmasi perubahan harga. Ketika
sebuah trend terjadi dan tidak ada volume dalam pergerakan tersebut maka
itu dapat diartikan trend yang terjadi sangat lemah atau tidak ada
komitmen dalam trend tersebut (Jumlah partisipan sedikit).

- Jika terdapat volume yang kuat ketika sebuah trend terjadi, hal
tersebut berarti bahwa perubahan harga yang terjadi disepakati oleh
sebagian besar pelaku market. Pergerakan harga yang diikuti dengan
pergerakan volume dapat mengindikasikan pergerakan harga sesudahnya.