Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?
IMHO, FED kemungkina besar turun tipis, but gak ngaruh ke DJI Yg jelas DJI dinaikin dulu sebelum FED di umumkan JCI melempem On 9/13/07, Karno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kalo sampe selasa DJ jeblok abis, baru pasti turun. > > - Original Message - > *From:* HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:05 PM > *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..? > > > Saya setuju kalo fed nggak turun akan bgs utk jangka > panjang. kalo fed turun akan bgs dlm jangka pendek dan > jelek utk jangka panjang. > > Perkiraan saya sendiri fed akan naik atau minimal > tetap karena walau kep ini tdk populis, fed kan pasti > pikir panjang utk negaranya, bkn utk jangka pendek, > kec kalo ditunggangi sec politis utk meningkatkan > citra pemerintah skrg dan menghancurkan presiden > berikutnya. > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi > > taruhan > > sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun > > dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo > > turun > > IHSG saya langsung beli cicil. > > > > Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed > > nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang. > > > > > > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK, > > > siapa > > > yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali > > Pak. > > > > kira2 ada ngga opsi > > > > lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate? > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: James Arifin > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > > > > > > > Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35 > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > > > > > > > nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik > > > > salah turun salah. > > > > > > > > Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit > > > > perdagangan mungkin mengecil > > > > tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus > > indeks > > > > ikutan bearish lagi > > > > karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya > > > dari > > > > historical tiap Fed > > > > rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED > > > hingga > > > > 1% memangnya US > > > > langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own > > > > movement > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > > > > > iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi > > fundamental > > > > ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, > > > > inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit > > perdagangan > > > > makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan > > > > Yen) > > > > makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, > > > Akhirnya > > > > Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. > > > > > > > > --- Eka Suwandana < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > <mailto:esuwandan% 40yahoo.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > > > > > > > > > James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun > > maka > > > > US > > > > > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun > > juga > > > > > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change > > > > isn't > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > <mailto:esuwandan% 40yahoo.com> > > > > > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > > > > > > > > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga > > akan > > > > > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > <mailto:
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?
Kalo sampe selasa DJ jeblok abis, baru pasti turun. - Original Message - From: HS To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:05 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..? Saya setuju kalo fed nggak turun akan bgs utk jangka panjang. kalo fed turun akan bgs dlm jangka pendek dan jelek utk jangka panjang. Perkiraan saya sendiri fed akan naik atau minimal tetap karena walau kep ini tdk populis, fed kan pasti pikir panjang utk negaranya, bkn utk jangka pendek, kec kalo ditunggangi sec politis utk meningkatkan citra pemerintah skrg dan menghancurkan presiden berikutnya. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi > taruhan > sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun > dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo > turun > IHSG saya langsung beli cicil. > > Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed > nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang. > > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK, > > siapa > > yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP? > > > > > > > > --- JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali > Pak. > > > kira2 ada ngga opsi > > > lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: James Arifin > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35 > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > > > > > nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik > > > salah turun salah. > > > > > > Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit > > > perdagangan mungkin mengecil > > > tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus > indeks > > > ikutan bearish lagi > > > karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya > > dari > > > historical tiap Fed > > > rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED > > hingga > > > 1% memangnya US > > > langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own > > > movement > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi > fundamental > > > ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, > > > inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit > perdagangan > > > makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan > > > Yen) > > > makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, > > Akhirnya > > > Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. > > > > > > --- Eka Suwandana < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > > > > > > > James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun > maka > > > US > > > > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun > juga > > > > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change > > > isn't > > > > it > > > > > > > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > > > > > > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga > akan > > > > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > > > > > > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu > amblas.. > > > > > > > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham na
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?
Saya setuju kalo fed nggak turun akan bgs utk jangka panjang. kalo fed turun akan bgs dlm jangka pendek dan jelek utk jangka panjang. Perkiraan saya sendiri fed akan naik atau minimal tetap karena walau kep ini tdk populis, fed kan pasti pikir panjang utk negaranya, bkn utk jangka pendek, kec kalo ditunggangi sec politis utk meningkatkan citra pemerintah skrg dan menghancurkan presiden berikutnya. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi > taruhan > sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun > dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo > turun > IHSG saya langsung beli cicil. > > Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed > nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang. > > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK, > > siapa > > yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP? > > > > > > > > --- JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali > Pak. > > > kira2 ada ngga opsi > > > lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: James Arifin > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35 > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > > > > > nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik > > > salah turun salah. > > > > > > Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit > > > perdagangan mungkin mengecil > > > tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus > indeks > > > ikutan bearish lagi > > > karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya > > dari > > > historical tiap Fed > > > rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED > > hingga > > > 1% memangnya US > > > langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own > > > movement > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi > fundamental > > > ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, > > > inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit > perdagangan > > > makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan > > > Yen) > > > makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, > > Akhirnya > > > Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. > > > > > > --- Eka Suwandana < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > > > > > > > James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun > maka > > > US > > > > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun > juga > > > > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change > > > isn't > > > > it > > > > > > > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > > > > > > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga > akan > > > > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > > > > > > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu > amblas.. > > > > > > > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja > > > > sambil > > > > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.co
Re: Balasan: RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Maksud saya saya nggak tahu jangka panjangnya. Kalo fed tetap IHSG awal2nya jatuh, jangka panjangnya bisa ikut DJ atau tidak, itu saya tidak tahu. Dulu juga pernah The Fed naik, IHSG turun sebentar udah gitu bikin all time high! Cuma Jeremy Siegel bilang the fed tetap justru bagus utk stock jangka panjang. --- Wyra Ohorgeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > kalo fed rate tetap, mmm berarti index-nya nggak > tetap juga dong > > saya setuju pendapat kemungkinan rate turun trus > index diayun tinggi trus bluggjatuh bebas... > terus kita pungut satu2..yg udah mateng bukan yg > busuk > > > Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nah itu saya nggak tahu! > > JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm Kalo Fed Rate ngga naik ngga turun alias TETAP > ? kira-kira gimana ya ? > > > > > > > - > Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di > bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?
Cepat atau lambat yg ngeshort toh harus beli balik untuk mengcover short-annya betul? ... - Original Message - From: "Eka Suwandana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 1:11 PM Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..? > Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi taruhan > sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun > dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo turun > IHSG saya langsung beli cicil. > > Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed > nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang. > > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK, >> siapa >> yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP? >> >> >> >> --- JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali Pak. >> > kira2 ada ngga opsi >> > lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate? >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: James Arifin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35 >> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com >> > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! >> > >> > nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik >> > salah turun salah. >> > >> > Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit >> > perdagangan mungkin mengecil >> > tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks >> > ikutan bearish lagi >> > karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya >> dari >> > historical tiap Fed >> > rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED >> hingga >> > 1% memangnya US >> > langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own >> > movement >> > >> > >> > On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental >> > ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, >> > inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan >> > makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan >> > Yen) >> > makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, >> Akhirnya >> > Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. >> > >> > --- Eka Suwandana < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. >> > > >> > > James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: >> > > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka >> > US >> > > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga >> > > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change >> > isn't >> > > it >> > > >> > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > >> > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! >> > > >> > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan >> > > ambruk juga ... heheheh >> > > >> > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: >> > > >> > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. >> > > >> > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! >> > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja >> > > sambil >> > > > > liatin us ambruk >> > > > > >> > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > <mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com> > >> > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan >> > > > turunkan >> > > > > > rate >> > > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan >> > jadi >> > > >> > > > > 5,15% >> > > > > > >> > &g
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?
Sepertinya the fed fund rate tetap! Saya lagi taruhan sama teman. Saya pikir pertama market DJ akan turun dulu karena kecewa. Utk IHSG juga sama cuma kalo turun IHSG saya langsung beli cicil. Kalo baca artikel jeremy siegel justru kalo the fed nggak turun akan bagus utk saham jangka panjang. --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK, > siapa > yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP? > > > > --- JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali Pak. > > kira2 ada ngga opsi > > lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Arifin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35 > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > > > nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik > > salah turun salah. > > > > Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit > > perdagangan mungkin mengecil > > tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks > > ikutan bearish lagi > > karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya > dari > > historical tiap Fed > > rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED > hingga > > 1% memangnya US > > langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own > > movement > > > > > > On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental > > ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, > > inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan > > makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan > > Yen) > > makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, > Akhirnya > > Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. > > > > --- Eka Suwandana < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > > > > > James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka > > US > > > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga > > > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change > > isn't > > > it > > > > > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > > > > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan > > > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > > > > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > > > > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja > > > sambil > > > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > <mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > > > turunkan > > > > > > rate > > > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan > > jadi > > > > > > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar > > futures > > > > > traded > > > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange > > > diestimasikan > > > > > > jadi > > > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis > > point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > >
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Taruhan aja yuk..?
kita taruhan aja yuk, siapa aja yg pegang NAIK, siapa yg TURUN, siapa yg TETAP? --- JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali Pak. > kira2 ada ngga opsi > lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate? > > -Original Message- > From: James Arifin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35 > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik > salah turun salah. > > Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit > perdagangan mungkin mengecil > tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks > ikutan bearish lagi > karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya dari > historical tiap Fed > rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED hingga > 1% memangnya US > langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own > movement > > > On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental > ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, > inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan > makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan > Yen) > makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, Akhirnya > Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. > > --- Eka Suwandana < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > > > James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: > > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka > US > > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga > > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change > isn't > > it > > > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > > wrote: > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan > > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja > > sambil > > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > > turunkan > > > > > rate > > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan > jadi > > > > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar > futures > > > > traded > > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange > > diestimasikan > > > > > jadi > > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis > point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail > <http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+k > ids&cs=bz> &p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights > and > > hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network > Research Panel today! > http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
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kalo fed rate tetap, mmm berarti index-nya nggak tetap juga dong saya setuju pendapat kemungkinan rate turun trus index diayun tinggi trus bluggjatuh bebas... terus kita pungut satu2..yg udah mateng bukan yg busuk Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: nah itu saya nggak tahu! JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmmm Kalo Fed Rate ngga naik ngga turun alias TETAP ? kira-kira gimana ya ? - Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answers
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
therefore I call you weird cause you intend it On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I know, my friend. I'm just teasing you. I really don't know what Ben > is going to do. But we all know, he's no Greenspan. Greenspan is pro market, > Bernanke isn't. > > > > Regards, > > DE > > > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ps.com] *On Behalf Of *James Arifin > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:04 PM > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > > > maksudku you are weird karena quote something that is not in the > discussion. Konteks: saya katakan bahwa waktu FED rate diturunkan ke 1% > waktu jaman Alan Greenspan, ekonomi US nggak hancur lebur ... so kalau Fed > rate dicut 25 basis point kenapa ada pemikiran bahwa ekonomi akan hancur > lebur. Be realistic deh. > > > > Anyway, waktu ente quote bahwa apakah Bernanke berani turunkan Fed Rate ke > 1%, saya nggak tahu darimana asal konteks pembicaraan tersebut, sangat jauh > melenceng > > > > On 9/12/07, *Dean Earwicker* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hehehe… so I'm the weird guy? Greenspan sih berani walaupun progresif, > kalau bernanke, tau deh.. > > > > Regards, > > DE > > > > >
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Wah, Pak - kalo menurut saya masalah masing2 ekonomi suatu negara yg merupakan faktor internal bagi mereka - saya kira perlu dipilah2 dulu : o AS : Pertumbuhan ekonomi melemah + inflasi (masih) favourables --> FED rate perlu turun2 o China : Pertumbuhan ekonomi (masih) tinggi2 terus + inflasi meningkat --> Rate sering dinaek2'in - meskipun masih belon mempan utk meredam pertumbuhan o Jepang : YEN + politik di internal mereka o Indonesia : Pertumbuhan ekonomi Oke punya + inflasi masih dlm target --> BI-Rate (masih) bisa turun2 - paling tidak akhir taon ini Happy Chuan, Aria > Hehehe. so I'm the weird guy? Greenspan sih berani walaupun progresif, > kalau > bernanke, tau deh.. > > > > Regards, > > DE > > > > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of James Arifin > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:44 PM > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > > > siapa yg bilang Bernanke akan turunkan ke 1%??? Aneh ... so weird you are > today > > On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Berani apa Bernanke turunin sampai 1%? Saya sih ok aja, apalagi kalau > rupiah > bisa 2500 lagi. Masalahnya negara lain gak ada yang nurunin rate, bahkan > China naikin rate nya. Kalau Fed, tugas utamanya mengatur kebijakan > ekonomi > US secara keseluruhan, bukan hanya kredit macet, tapi juga kurs. Dan kita > tahu kurs jauh lebih penting. Kredit macet subprime relatif ter contained > (apa ya bhs indonya?) di US dan bursa saja, tapi kalau pelemahan USD > efeknya > jauh lebih luas. > > > > Memang dilematis sih. serba salah. > > > > Menurut saya kayaknya fed bakal nurunin discount rate lagi, karena fed > udah > ngucurin duit banyak ke bank. > > > > > > Regards, > > DE > >
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
I know, my friend. I'm just teasing you. I really don't know what Ben is going to do. But we all know, he's no Greenspan. Greenspan is pro market, Bernanke isn't. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Arifin Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:04 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! maksudku you are weird karena quote something that is not in the discussion. Konteks: saya katakan bahwa waktu FED rate diturunkan ke 1% waktu jaman Alan Greenspan, ekonomi US nggak hancur lebur ... so kalau Fed rate dicut 25 basis point kenapa ada pemikiran bahwa ekonomi akan hancur lebur. Be realistic deh. Anyway, waktu ente quote bahwa apakah Bernanke berani turunkan Fed Rate ke 1%, saya nggak tahu darimana asal konteks pembicaraan tersebut, sangat jauh melenceng On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hehehe. so I'm the weird guy? Greenspan sih berani walaupun progresif, kalau bernanke, tau deh.. Regards, DE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
maksudku you are weird karena quote something that is not in the discussion. Konteks: saya katakan bahwa waktu FED rate diturunkan ke 1% waktu jaman Alan Greenspan, ekonomi US nggak hancur lebur ... so kalau Fed rate dicut 25 basis point kenapa ada pemikiran bahwa ekonomi akan hancur lebur. Be realistic deh. Anyway, waktu ente quote bahwa apakah Bernanke berani turunkan Fed Rate ke 1%, saya nggak tahu darimana asal konteks pembicaraan tersebut, sangat jauh melenceng On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hehehe… so I'm the weird guy? Greenspan sih berani walaupun progresif, > kalau bernanke, tau deh.. > > > > Regards, > > DE > > > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ps.com] *On Behalf Of *James Arifin > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:44 PM > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > > > siapa yg bilang Bernanke akan turunkan ke 1%??? Aneh ... so weird you are > today > > On 9/12/07, *Dean Earwicker* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Berani apa Bernanke turunin sampai 1%? Saya sih ok aja, apalagi kalau > rupiah bisa 2500 lagi. Masalahnya negara lain gak ada yang nurunin rate, > bahkan China naikin rate nya. Kalau Fed, tugas utamanya mengatur kebijakan > ekonomi US secara keseluruhan, bukan hanya kredit macet, tapi juga kurs. Dan > kita tahu kurs jauh lebih penting. Kredit macet subprime relatif ter > contained (apa ya bhs indonya?) di US dan bursa saja, tapi kalau pelemahan > USD efeknya jauh lebih luas. > > > > Memang dilematis sih… serba salah… > > > > Menurut saya kayaknya fed bakal nurunin discount rate lagi, karena fed > udah ngucurin duit banyak ke bank. > > > > > > Regards, > > DE > > >
And JCI will also drop [Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!]
How much? Only market knows. Someone in this forum point out the 1700.. We will see then. On 9/7/07, Siswantoro, Dodik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan turunkan rate > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi 5,15% > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures traded > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan jadi > 5,14% > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > __ > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > >
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Hehehe. so I'm the weird guy? Greenspan sih berani walaupun progresif, kalau bernanke, tau deh.. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Arifin Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:44 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! siapa yg bilang Bernanke akan turunkan ke 1%??? Aneh ... so weird you are today On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Berani apa Bernanke turunin sampai 1%? Saya sih ok aja, apalagi kalau rupiah bisa 2500 lagi. Masalahnya negara lain gak ada yang nurunin rate, bahkan China naikin rate nya. Kalau Fed, tugas utamanya mengatur kebijakan ekonomi US secara keseluruhan, bukan hanya kredit macet, tapi juga kurs. Dan kita tahu kurs jauh lebih penting. Kredit macet subprime relatif ter contained (apa ya bhs indonya?) di US dan bursa saja, tapi kalau pelemahan USD efeknya jauh lebih luas. Memang dilematis sih. serba salah. Menurut saya kayaknya fed bakal nurunin discount rate lagi, karena fed udah ngucurin duit banyak ke bank. Regards, DE
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
siapa yg bilang Bernanke akan turunkan ke 1%??? Aneh ... so weird you are today On 9/12/07, Dean Earwicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Berani apa Bernanke turunin sampai 1%? Saya sih ok aja, apalagi kalau > rupiah bisa 2500 lagi. Masalahnya negara lain gak ada yang nurunin rate, > bahkan China naikin rate nya. Kalau Fed, tugas utamanya mengatur kebijakan > ekonomi US secara keseluruhan, bukan hanya kredit macet, tapi juga kurs. Dan > kita tahu kurs jauh lebih penting. Kredit macet subprime relatif ter > contained (apa ya bhs indonya?) di US dan bursa saja, tapi kalau pelemahan > USD efeknya jauh lebih luas. > > > > Memang dilematis sih… serba salah… > > > > Menurut saya kayaknya fed bakal nurunin discount rate lagi, karena fed > udah ngucurin duit banyak ke bank. > > > > > > Regards, > > DE > > > > *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ps.com] *On Behalf Of *James Arifin > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:35 AM > *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > > > > nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik salah turun salah. > > > > Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit perdagangan mungkin mengecil tp > CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks ikutan bearish lagi karena > laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya dari historical tiap Fed rate turun > indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED hingga 1% memangnya US langsung collapse? > Nggak lah, market has its own movement > > > > On 9/12/07, *HS* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental > ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, > inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan > makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan Yen) > makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, Akhirnya > Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. > > --- Eka Suwandana < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > > > James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US > > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga > > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't > > it > > > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan > > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja > > sambil > > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > > turunkan > > > > > rate > > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > > > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > > > traded > > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange > > diestimasikan > > > > > jadi > > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and > > hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.15/1002 - Release Date: > 9/11/2007 5:46 PM > > > >
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Berani apa Bernanke turunin sampai 1%? Saya sih ok aja, apalagi kalau rupiah bisa 2500 lagi. Masalahnya negara lain gak ada yang nurunin rate, bahkan China naikin rate nya. Kalau Fed, tugas utamanya mengatur kebijakan ekonomi US secara keseluruhan, bukan hanya kredit macet, tapi juga kurs. Dan kita tahu kurs jauh lebih penting. Kredit macet subprime relatif ter contained (apa ya bhs indonya?) di US dan bursa saja, tapi kalau pelemahan USD efeknya jauh lebih luas. Memang dilematis sih. serba salah. Menurut saya kayaknya fed bakal nurunin discount rate lagi, karena fed udah ngucurin duit banyak ke bank. Regards, DE From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Arifin Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 11:35 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik salah turun salah. Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit perdagangan mungkin mengecil tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks ikutan bearish lagi karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya dari historical tiap Fed rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED hingga 1% memangnya US langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own movement On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan Yen) makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, Akhirnya Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. --- Eka Suwandana < <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > James Arifin < <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't > it > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja > sambil > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > turunkan > > > > rate > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > > traded > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange > diestimasikan > > > > jadi > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail <http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&; cs=bz> &p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > __ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and > hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.15/1002 - Release Date: 9/11/2007 5:46 PM <>
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Yang bagus mungkin ngga naik ngga turun kali Pak. kira2 ada ngga opsi lain selain naikin atau turunin fed rate? -Original Message- From: James Arifin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2007 11:35 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik salah turun salah. Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit perdagangan mungkin mengecil tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks ikutan bearish lagi karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya dari historical tiap Fed rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED hingga 1% memangnya US langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own movement On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan Yen) makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, Akhirnya Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. --- Eka Suwandana < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > James Arifin < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't > it > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:james.arifin%40gmail.com> > wrote: > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja > sambil > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > turunkan > > > > rate > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > > traded > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange > diestimasikan > > > > jadi > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail <http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+k ids&cs=bz> &p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > __ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and > hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
nah itu saya nggak tahu! JsxTrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmmm Kalo Fed Rate ngga naik ngga turun alias TETAP ? kira-kira gimana ya ? -Original Message- From: Eka Suwandana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2007 12:41 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't it On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ambruk kayaknya! James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan ambruk juga ... heheheh On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > liatin us ambruk > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > turunkan > > > rate > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > 5,15% > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > traded > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > jadi > > > 5,14% > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
nggak ada rumus mana yg bagus dong kl gitu, naik salah turun salah. Kalau FED naik maka inflasi turun, defisit perdagangan mungkin mengecil tp CPI akan turun, dilanjut PPP turun trus indeks ikutan bearish lagi karena laporan keuangan jelek ... menurut saya dari historical tiap Fed rate turun indeks bullish lihat aja waktu FED hingga 1% memangnya US langsung collapse? Nggak lah, market has its own movement On 9/12/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental > ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, > inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan > makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan Yen) > makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, Akhirnya > Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US > > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga > > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't > > it > > > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan > > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja > > sambil > > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > > turunkan > > > > > rate > > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > > > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > > > traded > > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange > > diestimasikan > > > > > jadi > > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and > > hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! > http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
iya, saham akan rally sementara. Tapi fundamental ekonomi AS tdk bgs, kalo fed rate dipaksa turun, inflasi makin tdk terkendali, defisit perdagangan makin lebar, nilai tukar (khususnya thd Euro dan Yen) makin terdepresiasi, defisit anggaran naik, Akhirnya Fed tarik rem tangan! Trus pasar bearish.. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US > ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga > ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't > it > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: ambruk kayaknya! > > James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan > ambruk juga ... heheheh > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja > sambil > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > turunkan > > > > rate > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > > traded > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange > diestimasikan > > > > jadi > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > __ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and > hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Hmmm.Kalo Fed Rate ngga naik ngga turun alias TETAP ? kira-kira gimana ya.? -Original Message- From: Eka Suwandana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 September 2007 12:41 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't it On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> com> wrote: ambruk kayaknya! James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://gmail.com/> > wrote: terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan ambruk juga ... heheheh On 9/11/07, HS mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> yahoo.com > wrote: iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> com > wrote: > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > --- HS mailto:handokosatria%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com > wrote: > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > liatin us ambruk > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kidod25%40yahoo.com> com> wrote: > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > turunkan > > > rate > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > 5,15% > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > traded > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > jadi > > > 5,14% > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > http://search. <http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+k ids&cs=bz> yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > http://travel. <http://travel.yahoo.com/> yahoo.com/ > > > > __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase. <http://farechase.yahoo.com/> yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
inti problemnya kan bukan soal cuma cut or no cut,emangnya kalau sdh cut problem selesai ???aya aya wae...hihihih - Original Message - From: "James Arifin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! > Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US ambruk, sekarang kalau > Fed rate nggak turun juga ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change > isn't it > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> ambruk kayaknya! >> >> *James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: >> >> terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan ambruk juga ... heheheh >> >> On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. >> > >> > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >> > >> > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! >> > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >> > > >> > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil >> > > > liatin us ambruk >> > > > >> > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan >> > > turunkan >> > > > > rate >> > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: >> > > > > >> > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi >> > > > 5,15% >> > > > > >> > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures >> > > > traded >> > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan >> > > > > jadi >> > > > > 5,14% >> > > > > >> > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > __ >> > > > > Got a little couch potato? >> > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > __ >> > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals >> > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. >> > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > __ >> > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! >> > FareChase. >> > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >
RE: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Tapi udah naik jauh dari tempat parkirnya sebelumnya dan yg volumenya tinggi Cuma AKRA, kalo masuk sekarang, jangan2 udah tinggal kebagian mau balik turunnya, hehehe -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: 11 September 2007 12:17 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Etwa hari ini main tuh pak. Break 385 dgn Vol lumayan. Ada yg punya info targetnya? Pls share dong. Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:55:45 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Iya BUDI ETWA AKRA bagus tuh! Aa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: "Eka Suwandana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> com> > Saya pikir ini kenapa saham PTBA, BUMI, bahkan CNKO bertahan karena COAL > naik terus seiring minyak, sedangkan saham OIL nggak ada yg bagus di BEJ! Saham turunan dari oil(kimia) ada yg bagus Pak Eka,cuma gak jaminan bandar mau kasih cuan,oil dan US$ tinggi memberi extra gain .ADMG,AKRA,ETWA,LTLS,SOBI dsb + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.14/999 - Release Date: 10/09/2007 17:43 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 4185 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Fed turun saham rally pak HS! Udah rumus itu. James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't it On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ambruk kayaknya! James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan ambruk juga ... heheheh On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > liatin us ambruk > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > turunkan > > > rate > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > 5,15% > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > traded > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > jadi > > > 5,14% > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Maksud saya kalau menurut HS Fed rate turun maka US ambruk, sekarang kalau Fed rate nggak turun juga ambruk maka .. what choice is left? No change isn't it On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ambruk kayaknya! > > *James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan ambruk juga ... heheheh > > On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > > turunkan > > > > > rate > > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > > > traded > > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > > > jadi > > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > > FareChase. > > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > >
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ambruk kayaknya! James Arifin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan ambruk juga ... heheheh On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > liatin us ambruk > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > turunkan > > > rate > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > 5,15% > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > traded > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > jadi > > > 5,14% > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
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terus kl fed rate nggak turun, apa US juga akan ambruk juga ... heheheh On 9/11/07, HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. > > --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > > liatin us ambruk > > > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > > turunkan > > > > rate > > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > > 5,15% > > > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > > traded > > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > > jadi > > > > 5,14% > > > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > __ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > >
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Etwa hari ini main tuh pak. Break 385 dgn Vol lumayan. Ada yg punya info targetnya? Pls share dong. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:55:45 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! Iya BUDI ETWA AKRA bagus tuh! Aa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: "Eka Suwandana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:esuwandan%40yahoo.com> com> > Saya pikir ini kenapa saham PTBA, BUMI, bahkan CNKO bertahan karena COAL > naik terus seiring minyak, sedangkan saham OIL nggak ada yg bagus di BEJ! Saham turunan dari oil(kimia) ada yg bagus Pak Eka,cuma gak jaminan bandar mau kasih cuan,oil dan US$ tinggi memberi extra gain .ADMG,AKRA,ETWA,LTLS,SOBI dsb + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Scr keseluruhan - sbg barang substitusi (contoh : Kopi + Teh) - harga OIL yg cenderung naek2 (GEN TREND) akan menyebabkan/mengangkat harga COAL utk naek2 jg... Harga naek2 jg didorong/ditarik oleh upaya BAKRIE Group incl.ELTY (w) dg mega-proyek RASUNA EPICENTRUM-nya yg memang sdg ekspansi scr besar2an dlm periode taon 2007 - 2008 ini Happy Chuan, Aria > Koreksi deh pak Eka, hati-2 harga coal lagi tren 1 bulan ini turun. > dari 73 -> 71->69 dan sekarang di 66 us$/ton untuk coal new castle. > > Lalu kenapa bumi sekarang naik. > Supaya teori Darvas kelihatan hasilnya dan waktunya bandar suplly barang > di > market. > > > On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >
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Iya BUDI ETWA AKRA bagus tuh! Aa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Original Message - From: "Eka Suwandana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Saya pikir ini kenapa saham PTBA, BUMI, bahkan CNKO bertahan karena COAL > naik terus seiring minyak, sedangkan saham OIL nggak ada yg bagus di BEJ! Saham turunan dari oil(kimia) ada yg bagus Pak Eka,cuma gak jaminan bandar mau kasih cuan,oil dan US$ tinggi memberi extra gain .ADMG,AKRA,ETWA,LTLS,SOBI dsb
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
- Original Message - From: "Eka Suwandana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Saya pikir ini kenapa saham PTBA, BUMI, bahkan CNKO bertahan karena COAL > naik terus seiring minyak, sedangkan saham OIL nggak ada yg bagus di BEJ! Saham turunan dari oil(kimia) ada yg bagus Pak Eka,cuma gak jaminan bandar mau kasih cuan,oil dan US$ tinggi memberi extra gain .ADMG,AKRA,ETWA,LTLS,SOBI dsb
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
Koreksi deh pak Eka, hati-2 harga coal lagi tren 1 bulan ini turun. dari 73 -> 71->69 dan sekarang di 66 us$/ton untuk coal new castle. Lalu kenapa bumi sekarang naik. Supaya teori Darvas kelihatan hasilnya dan waktunya bandar suplly barang di market. On 9/11/07, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
The fed nggak turun menurut saya. Soalnya tugas utama Bank Central adalah menjaga nilai mata uang. Kalo the fed fund rate turun ketika ancaman inflasi masih tinggi , harga commodity tinggi karena faktor China dan India, maka US$ makin jatuh nilainya. Lagipula alasan turun sekarang berbeda dgn alasan turun tahun 2001-2002, dulu karena teror 9/11! Sekarang karena Bad Debt SUB-prime! Saya pikir ini kenapa saham PTBA, BUMI, bahkan CNKO bertahan karena COAL naik terus seiring minyak, sedangkan saham OIL nggak ada yg bagus di BEJ! HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > liatin us ambruk > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > turunkan > > > rate > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > 5,15% > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > traded > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > jadi > > > 5,14% > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > __ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
kalo abis naik trus amblas ya kita minta om Ben naikin lagi suku bunganya He..he... gitu aja ko repot. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:52:25 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!! iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > liatin us ambruk > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > turunkan > > > rate > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > 5,15% > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > traded > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > jadi > > > 5,14% > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali memang diperlukan. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
iya naik dulu tapi fatamorgana, abs itu amblas.. --- Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! > --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > > liatin us ambruk > > > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan > turunkan > > > rate > > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > > 5,15% > > > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > > traded > > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > > jadi > > > 5,14% > > > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > > > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
The fed rate turun pastilah saham naik! --- HS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil > liatin us ambruk > > --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan turunkan > > rate > > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi > 5,15% > > > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures > traded > > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > > jadi > > 5,14% > > > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > > > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > > > > > > > > > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > http://travel.yahoo.com/ >
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FED akan turun !!!
kalo sampe fed rate turun, cuci gudang aja sambil liatin us ambruk --- "Siswantoro, Dodik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kalau Ben emang basis akademisi, ia akan turunkan > rate > tapi emang turun tipis sih: > > 1. Menurut Futures contract diestimasikan jadi 5,15% > > 2. Menurut Based on 30-day Eurodollar futures traded > on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange diestimasikan > jadi > 5,14% > > Kira2 bisa ga FED cuma turun 10 basis point?? > > > > > > > > Got a little couch potato? > Check out fun summer activities for kids. > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz > > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
