[old-chevy-truck] Re : Tail Lights
Well ; Basically your original AD tail/stop lamp and these aftermarket 'A' Model ones too , has two circuits so , to use them for turn signals , requires a six wire turn signal switch to separate the brake lights from the turn signals . Or , you can use separate lamps for the turn signals on the back , those cute bed roll end lights work especially well for this when fitted with LED or Halogen bulbs and recessed 1 or so so they'll light up very brightly even in the direct sun light . Go to the home page of this yahoo group and look in the various files and photos , I imagine there's some info as this has been done many times over . -Nate Robert wrote : Hi Nate, Â Thanks for the info. I agree that the bracket doesn't make them worth that. Not sure what you mean by your statement about UNLESS YOU HAVE INTEGRATED TURN SIGNALS AND TAILLIGHTS NOW , THEY WON'T QUITE WORK . I haven't installed turn signals on this truck yet and am needing more knowledge before i attempt to. Is there anything on the group site or elsewhere that would be educational for me? Thanks, Robert Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: tail lights
Those look very nice but ; They're standard Chinese copies of 1931 Brand 'F' A' Model taillights with two separate bulbs in them . I see these lamps for sale every where for $20 each , I can't imagine the brackets make them worth $152.00 ! . For saY $40 ~ $50 EACH AND YOU DON'T MIND _fORD_ PARTS ON YOUR VINTAGE cHEVY , THEY'D BE NICE BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE INTEGRATED TURN SIGNALS AND TAILLIGHTS NOW , THEY WON'T QUITE WORK . -Dang caps lock again , sorry . -Nate Robert Asked : Have any of you put these on your truck? If so, are they assembled so that you can also have turn signals? if anyone has them on a truck can you post a pic so i can see how well they look installed? Thanks, Robert http://www.ebay.com/itm/STOP-Taillights-w-Plate-Bracket-All-Black-Universal-Stepside-Truck-Pickup-/151049417352?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessoriesfits=Year%3A1951%7CMake%3AChevrolet%7CModel%3ATruckhash=item232b3f3288vxp=mtr Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: tail lights
Hi Nate, Thanks for the info. I agree that the bracket doesn't make them worth that. Not sure what you mean by your statement about UNLESS YOU HAVE INTEGRATED TURN SIGNALS AND TAILLIGHTS NOW , THEY WON'T QUITE WORK . I haven't installed turn signals on this truck yet and am needing more knowledge before i attempt to. Is there anything on the group site or elsewhere that would be educational for me? Thanks, Robert From: Nate vwna...@yahoo.com To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 2:08 PM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: tail lights Those look very nice but ; They're standard Chinese copies of 1931 Brand 'F' A' Model taillights with two separate bulbs in them . I see these lamps for sale every where for $20 each , I can't imagine the brackets make them worth $152.00 ! . For saY $40 ~ $50 EACH AND YOU DON'T MIND _fORD_ PARTS ON YOUR VINTAGE cHEVY , THEY'D BE NICE BUT UNLESS YOU HAVE INTEGRATED TURN SIGNALS AND TAILLIGHTS NOW , THEY WON'T QUITE WORK . -Dang caps lock again , sorry . -Nate Robert Asked : Have any of you put these on your truck? If so, are they assembled so that you can also have turn signals? if anyone has them on a truck can you post a pic so i can see how well they look installed? Thanks, Robert http://www.ebay.com/itm/STOP-Taillights-w-Plate-Bracket-All-Black-Universal-Stepside-Truck-Pickup-/151049417352?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessoriesfits=Year%3A1951%7CMake%3AChevrolet%7CModel%3ATruckhash=item232b3f3288vxp=mtr [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail Lights
thanks Jeff-i only deal with 12v. i think you are right-im gonna break down and get a 7 wire unit like everyone else instead of having my unique 3wire uni. =( thanks! mark --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Pohlar j.poh...@... wrote: Yeah, with the three wire unit, you must keep the brake light circuit separate by adding separate turn signal bulbs or lamp assys to the rear. The front could use a dual filament bulb setup or separate lamp assys since there is no brake light current to screw things up. One thing I'll add. Quite a few vehicle manufacturers now have separate turn signal (amber) and brake light (red) lamps. When adding a trailer w/standard dual filament bulb stop/tail/turns (STT) to these vehicles if they don't already have a trailer ready plug, an electronic smart device is used in the vehicle wiring to electronically separate the currents. I have not had a chance to test that theory but it may work. However, I have a feeling that its designed for 12V systems only. This was a big problem years ago when Toyotas and Datsuns etc. needed to pull a trailer. When you hooked up a trailer with combined stop/turn filaments to a vehicle with separate stop/turn bulbs, all sorts of weird things occured. None of which were acceptable. The units are commonly available and are called trailer light conversion devices. They might work with a 6V system also especially if you have a good charging system that keeps 7.5 volts while running. Probably won't know until tested though. I had a 12V trailer brake controller on my 6V truck and it worked fine until it got wet from a leaky windshield. The controller (different model) I replaced it with did not work with 6V. Probably just easier to find a 6 wire turn signal switch that you like too. Jeff in Clermont, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail Lights
Yeah, with the three wire unit, you must keep the brake light circuit separate by adding separate turn signal bulbs or lamp assys to the rear. The front could use a dual filament bulb setup or separate lamp assys since there is no brake light current to screw things up. One thing I'll add. Quite a few vehicle manufacturers now have separate turn signal (amber) and brake light (red) lamps. When adding a trailer w/standard dual filament bulb stop/tail/turns (STT) to these vehicles if they don't already have a trailer ready plug, an electronic smart device is used in the vehicle wiring to electronically separate the currents. I have not had a chance to test that theory but it may work. However, I have a feeling that its designed for 12V systems only. This was a big problem years ago when Toyotas and Datsuns etc. needed to pull a trailer. When you hooked up a trailer with combined stop/turn filaments to a vehicle with separate stop/turn bulbs, all sorts of weird things occured. None of which were acceptable. The units are commonly available and are called trailer light conversion devices. They might work with a 6V system also especially if you have a good charging system that keeps 7.5 volts while running. Probably won't know until tested though. I had a 12V trailer brake controller on my 6V truck and it worked fine until it got wet from a leaky windshield. The controller (different model) I replaced it with did not work with 6V. Probably just easier to find a 6 wire turn signal switch that you like too. Jeff in Clermont, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail Lights
thanks jeff. well-bad news. my turn signal i REALLY want to use has 3 wires. how can i achieve that? dual front park element? a third element in rear? essentially does the turn element have to be 100% seperate? mark --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Pohlar j.poh...@... wrote: Mark, the older style add on t/s units with either three or four wires just cannot be made to work with the dual filament bulb system. At least I haven't been able to figure out a way. Theres no provision inside the t/s switch to override the steady brake light current when a turn signal is also on. There is also no separation between front and rear turn signals. What happens when you hook it up like you think it should work is all four corners of the truck light up (if you have front turn sigs) when you step on the brake or turn on the signals because both brake light filaments are tied together at the brake light switch and the front and rear t/s circuits are not separated. The later style switch with at least 6 wires solves that problem. The schematic of the switch separates front/rear and left/right. Which switch do you have? Jeff - Original Message - From: ccpanel To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:54 AM Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail Lights hey jeff-i searched archive and site but couldnt find wiring diagram. i have a old school turn signal i wanna use to match my interior. looking to wire it into 1980 jeep wiring with 1950 style taillights from FLAPS that has single bulb with stop/turn-tail filaments. mark --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Pohlar j.pohlar@ wrote: I needed to think about this one for a minute. I've seen something like this done before and the results weren't as good as you might think. Since all of the commonly available bulbs designed for turn signal or brake light use are similiar in wattage, the problem with having two separate ones in the same housing is that when the brake light is lit, the blinking turn signal filament is hardly visible. It appears that the brake light bulb saturates the faceted lens and the additional light from a separate blinking turn signal bulb just doesn't seem to add anything to the light already present in the housing. One other problem you might encounter is the wiring the turn signal switch. The OEM's and the later style add on units with 6 wires are designed to combine the turn signal and brake light function to the rear. You'd have to change the schematic a little for it to work with two different filaments. Thats not a problem with the earlier turn signal switches with three to five wires. Not trying to talk you out of it, just sharing my experience with it. Jeff in (sunny and warm) Clermont, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail Lights
hey jeff-i searched archive and site but couldnt find wiring diagram. i have a old school turn signal i wanna use to match my interior. looking to wire it into 1980 jeep wiring with 1950 style taillights from FLAPS that has single bulb with stop/turn-tail filaments. mark --- In old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Pohlar j.poh...@... wrote: I needed to think about this one for a minute. I've seen something like this done before and the results weren't as good as you might think. Since all of the commonly available bulbs designed for turn signal or brake light use are similiar in wattage, the problem with having two separate ones in the same housing is that when the brake light is lit, the blinking turn signal filament is hardly visible. It appears that the brake light bulb saturates the faceted lens and the additional light from a separate blinking turn signal bulb just doesn't seem to add anything to the light already present in the housing. One other problem you might encounter is the wiring the turn signal switch. The OEM's and the later style add on units with 6 wires are designed to combine the turn signal and brake light function to the rear. You'd have to change the schematic a little for it to work with two different filaments. Thats not a problem with the earlier turn signal switches with three to five wires. Not trying to talk you out of it, just sharing my experience with it. Jeff in (sunny and warm) Clermont, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:old-chevy-truck-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:old-chevy-truck-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: old-chevy-truck-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights
You need a _good_ test light and a long bit of wire with two alligator clips on it for testing , always ensure your test light is properly grounded . Most of the time either the bullet connectors (under the LR corner of the bed , usually inside a rat's nest of old tape ) have come unplugged or so corroded they're not passing current Or the taillight bulb has gotten so nasty corroded in it's socket it won't come on ~ use a dedicated battery brush (! NOT one used to clean batteries !) to clean out the socket and then install a new taillight bulb , smear some axle brease on the base of the bulb _AFTER_ you've cleaned the socket to shiny clean to prevent corrosion from returing . DO NOT use Dialetric grease in light sockets ! . There's not much to it , use the tester to ascertain current at the back of the truck yes/no then either address the taillight or work forward untill you find where the current stops , it is almost never the switch itself . Always use the chrome bumper to ground the test light , failing that , use the long bit of wire for a ground lead , connect it to the - (ground) post of the attery and trail it back to the taillight I hope this helps . -Nate Debra wrote: My 52 1/2 ton Chevy pick up is giving me fits! The running tail lights do not come on. The brake lights work but not the running lights. All wires appear to be connected. Anyone have any ideas for me I can only drive my truck during the day! Debra. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights
Simple : your truck is only required to have the original lighting equipment in operating order , this is a Federal law and state law may not supercede Federal law . Been there , done that . However , if you think you might _EVER_ drive it at night (you will) PLEASE add the passenger side taillight for safety and common sense . -Nate Will wrote: Ok, well I learned something new this morning. Yes, the left tail light is the only one present, so I seem to be ok. Now, let me pose this question: How do you explain this to a cop? There's bound to be a time that someone will be stopped and an unaware cop tries to write a ticket for something that is perfectly original. I don't envision staying completely original in this matter for the sake of safety, but until I deal with more pressing issues, this might just remain. Thanks Jim. I'm still open to suggestions about vendors though, for future parts...will Lowery, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Will, If you have a left hand tail light on your '51, that's all she ever had, you're actually not missing anything. That said, a lot of us yield from original to add a right hand light - I did after I realized my teenage boy was driving mine after dark, etc, and it was just common sense to do so. I bought mine from Chevy Duty, along with a bracket, am completely satisfied with its quality. Only thing was, theirs only comes with a stainless bezel, and my left-hand was plain painted metal. So for them to match, I either had to paint the stainless or buy a new bezel for left hand. Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: Will Nelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:26 AM To: Ole-Chevy-Truck Post; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Tail lights I am in need of another tail light as one is missing on my truck. Can a few of you suggest a place that offers high quality ones? I am a bit leery of ordering from Chevy Duty after several comments I have picked up on indicate that they do not always offer high quality parts. On that note, is there any one particular dealer that offers superior service plus good quality parts. I'm open to suggestions as I have no experience with any of the vendors and will likely be needing some parts that I cannot find locally. Thanks guys., Will Nelle Longview, TX 51 Chev 3600 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FW: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights
Will, one more bit from the below story: it was probably one year later, I had my boy at the same office to get is new drivers license. My resto was complete by then. On a whim I went and found the same officer who'd helped me (remember, he had to inspect mine cuz I didn't have a title). I brought him out to see the finished job, and he was thrilled, really appreciated me taking time to show him. He said they do a lot of these, but never get to see end result. I had fun showing him, but I think it really made his day. Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: Lowery, Jim Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:50 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights Well I don't know the reference, but betcha you could get from your Longview/Gregg Co. DPS. In Abilene, the DPS office is divided - one side is the driver's license side, the other is the law enforcement (?) side. I entered that side and fortunately for me they were very friendly and knowledgeable, and the inspector/officer I mentioned previously pretty much flipped open a reg book and found the section. I believe it was because I had asked a spcific question... it was nearly 4 years ago (wow) Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: Will Nelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 9:36 AM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights Ok Nate and Jim. Both of your comments are in line with what I have been told previously. Can you reference the specific place where this is written down. I am not going to hope that an officer knows the rules when I get pulled over and he notices that something is not current with today's standards. I want to be able to whip out the law and prove it to him rather than take a ticket...will vwnate1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple : your truck is only required to have the original lighting equipment in operating order , this is a Federal law and state law may not supercede Federal law . Been there , done that . However , if you think you might _EVER_ drive it at night (you will) PLEASE add the passenger side taillight for safety and common sense . -Nate Will wrote: Ok, well I learned something new this morning. Yes, the left tail light is the only one present, so I seem to be ok. Now, let me pose this question: How do you explain this to a cop? There's bound to be a time that someone will be stopped and an unaware cop tries to write a ticket for something that is perfectly original. I don't envision staying completely original in this matter for the sake of safety, but until I deal with more pressing issues, this might just remain. Thanks Jim. I'm still open to suggestions about vendors though, for future parts...will Lowery, Jim wrote: Hey Will, If you have a left hand tail light on your '51, that's all she ever had, you're actually not missing anything. That said, a lot of us yield from original to add a right hand light - I did after I realized my teenage boy was driving mine after dark, etc, and it was just common sense to do so. I bought mine from Chevy Duty, along with a bracket, am completely satisfied with its quality. Only thing was, theirs only comes with a stainless bezel, and my left-hand was plain painted metal. So for them to match, I either had to paint the stainless or buy a new bezel for left hand. Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: Will Nelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:26 AM To: Ole-Chevy-Truck Post; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Tail lights I am in need of another tail light as one is missing on my truck. Can a few of you suggest a place that offers high quality ones? I am a bit leery of ordering from Chevy Duty after several comments I have picked up on indicate that they do not always offer high quality parts. On that note, is there any one particular dealer that offers superior service plus good quality parts. I'm open to suggestions as I have no experience with any of the vendors and will likely be needing some parts that I cannot find locally. Thanks guys., Will Nelle Longview, TX 51 Chev 3600 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights
Will Nelle Here is the url to get the inspection Regs. you will have to scroll through it to find it but it is in there. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/publications/rules/ch42.htm#20.27 ChevyAD54 1954 Chevrolet 1/2 Ton P/U 1960 Ford Falcon Sedan 1926 Ford 1 Ton TT Trucks Stack Bed 1923 Ford T Bucket P/U 1/4 ton With a Mouse Motor Will Nelle wrote: Ok Nate and Jim. Both of your comments are in line with what I have been told previously. Can you reference the specific place where this is written down. I am not going to hope that an officer knows the rules when I get pulled over and he notices that something is not current with today's standards. I want to be able to whip out the law and prove it to him rather than take a ticket...will vwnate1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple : your truck is only required to have the original lighting equipment in operating order , this is a Federal law and state law may not supercede Federal law . Been there , done that . However , if you think you might _EVER_ drive it at night (you will) PLEASE add the passenger side taillight for safety and common sense . -Nate Will wrote: Ok, well I learned something new this morning. Yes, the left tail light is the only one present, so I seem to be ok. Now, let me pose this question: How do you explain this to a cop? There's bound to be a time that someone will be stopped and an unaware cop tries to write a ticket for something that is perfectly original. I don't envision staying completely original in this matter for the sake of safety, but until I deal with more pressing issues, this might just remain. Thanks Jim. I'm still open to suggestions about vendors though, for future parts...will Lowery, Jim wrote: Hey Will, If you have a left hand tail light on your '51, that's all she ever had, you're actually not missing anything. That said, a lot of us yield from original to add a right hand light - I did after I realized my teenage boy was driving mine after dark, etc, and it was just common sense to do so. I bought mine from Chevy Duty, along with a bracket, am completely satisfied with its quality. Only thing was, theirs only comes with a stainless bezel, and my left-hand was plain painted metal. So for them to match, I either had to paint the stainless or buy a new bezel for left hand. Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: Will Nelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:26 AM To: Ole-Chevy-Truck Post; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Tail lights I am in need of another tail light as one is missing on my truck. Can a few of you suggest a place that offers high quality ones? I am a bit leery of ordering from Chevy Duty after several comments I have picked up on indicate that they do not always offer high quality parts. On that note, is there any one particular dealer that offers superior service plus good quality parts. I'm open to suggestions as I have no experience with any of the vendors and will likely be needing some parts that I cannot find locally. Thanks guys., Will Nelle Longview, TX 51 Chev 3600 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights
Well done, youdaman. I believe there's similar language for the seat belt issue, etc. Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: ChevyAd54 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:02 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights Will Nelle Here is the url to get the inspection Regs. you will have to scroll through it to find it but it is in there. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/publications/rules/ch42.htm#20.27 ChevyAD54 1954 Chevrolet 1/2 Ton P/U 1960 Ford Falcon Sedan 1926 Ford 1 Ton TT Trucks Stack Bed 1923 Ford T Bucket P/U 1/4 ton With a Mouse Motor Will Nelle wrote: Ok Nate and Jim. Both of your comments are in line with what I have been told previously. Can you reference the specific place where this is written down. I am not going to hope that an officer knows the rules when I get pulled over and he notices that something is not current with today's standards. I want to be able to whip out the law and prove it to him rather than take a ticket...will vwnate1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple : your truck is only required to have the original lighting equipment in operating order , this is a Federal law and state law may not supercede Federal law . Been there , done that . However , if you think you might _EVER_ drive it at night (you will) PLEASE add the passenger side taillight for safety and common sense . -Nate Will wrote: Ok, well I learned something new this morning. Yes, the left tail light is the only one present, so I seem to be ok. Now, let me pose this question: How do you explain this to a cop? There's bound to be a time that someone will be stopped and an unaware cop tries to write a ticket for something that is perfectly original. I don't envision staying completely original in this matter for the sake of safety, but until I deal with more pressing issues, this might just remain. Thanks Jim. I'm still open to suggestions about vendors though, for future parts...will Lowery, Jim wrote: Hey Will, If you have a left hand tail light on your '51, that's all she ever had, you're actually not missing anything. That said, a lot of us yield from original to add a right hand light - I did after I realized my teenage boy was driving mine after dark, etc, and it was just common sense to do so. I bought mine from Chevy Duty, along with a bracket, am completely satisfied with its quality. Only thing was, theirs only comes with a stainless bezel, and my left-hand was plain painted metal. So for them to match, I either had to paint the stainless or buy a new bezel for left hand. Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: Will Nelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:26 AM To: Ole-Chevy-Truck Post; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Tail lights I am in need of another tail light as one is missing on my truck. Can a few of you suggest a place that offers high quality ones? I am a bit leery of ordering from Chevy Duty after several comments I have picked up on indicate that they do not always offer high quality parts. On that note, is there any one particular dealer that offers superior service plus good quality parts. I'm open to suggestions as I have no experience with any of the vendors and will likely be needing some parts that I cannot find locally. Thanks guys., Will Nelle Longview, TX 51 Chev 3600 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use
RE: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights
The thing to remember is that these laws vary from state to state. The Feds promulgate the minimum standard and the States make their own laws based on that (they are allowed to be more stringent but not less restrictive as is the case with most law). Please refer to your own state's laws, eg some states STILL don't allow blue dot tail lights (and there are some very goofy ones out there). Allen '50 3100 w/ optional second taillight. -Original Message- From: ChevyAd54 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:02 PM To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights Will Nelle Here is the url to get the inspection Regs. you will have to scroll through it to find it but it is in there. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/publications/rules/ch42.htm#20.27 ChevyAD54 1954 Chevrolet 1/2 Ton P/U 1960 Ford Falcon Sedan 1926 Ford 1 Ton TT Trucks Stack Bed 1923 Ford T Bucket P/U 1/4 ton With a Mouse Motor Will Nelle wrote: Ok Nate and Jim. Both of your comments are in line with what I have been told previously. Can you reference the specific place where this is written down. I am not going to hope that an officer knows the rules when I get pulled over and he notices that something is not current with today's standards. I want to be able to whip out the law and prove it to him rather than take a ticket...will vwnate1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple : your truck is only required to have the original lighting equipment in operating order , this is a Federal law and state law may not supercede Federal law . Been there , done that . However , if you think you might _EVER_ drive it at night (you will) PLEASE add the passenger side taillight for safety and common sense . -Nate Will wrote: Ok, well I learned something new this morning. Yes, the left tail light is the only one present, so I seem to be ok. Now, let me pose this question: How do you explain this to a cop? There's bound to be a time that someone will be stopped and an unaware cop tries to write a ticket for something that is perfectly original. I don't envision staying completely original in this matter for the sake of safety, but until I deal with more pressing issues, this might just remain. Thanks Jim. I'm still open to suggestions about vendors though, for future parts...will Lowery, Jim wrote: Hey Will, If you have a left hand tail light on your '51, that's all she ever had, you're actually not missing anything. That said, a lot of us yield from original to add a right hand light - I did after I realized my teenage boy was driving mine after dark, etc, and it was just common sense to do so. I bought mine from Chevy Duty, along with a bracket, am completely satisfied with its quality. Only thing was, theirs only comes with a stainless bezel, and my left-hand was plain painted metal. So for them to match, I either had to paint the stainless or buy a new bezel for left hand. Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: Will Nelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:26 AM To: Ole-Chevy-Truck Post; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Tail lights I am in need of another tail light as one is missing on my truck. Can a few of you suggest a place that offers high quality ones? I am a bit leery of ordering from Chevy Duty after several comments I have picked up on indicate that they do not always offer high quality parts. On that note, is there any one particular dealer that offers superior service plus good quality parts. I'm open to suggestions as I have no experience with any of the vendors and will likely be needing some parts that I cannot find locally. Thanks guys., Will Nelle Longview, TX 51 Chev 3600 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send
Re: [old-chevy-truck] Re: Tail lights
Thanks! ChevyAd54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will Nelle Here is the url to get the inspection Regs. you will have to scroll through it to find it but it is in there. http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/vi/publications/rules/ch42.htm#20.27 ChevyAD54 1954 Chevrolet 1/2 Ton P/U 1960 Ford Falcon Sedan 1926 Ford 1 Ton TT Trucks Stack Bed 1923 Ford T Bucket P/U 1/4 ton With a Mouse Motor Will Nelle wrote: Ok Nate and Jim. Both of your comments are in line with what I have been told previously. Can you reference the specific place where this is written down. I am not going to hope that an officer knows the rules when I get pulled over and he notices that something is not current with today's standards. I want to be able to whip out the law and prove it to him rather than take a ticket...will vwnate1 wrote: Simple : your truck is only required to have the original lighting equipment in operating order , this is a Federal law and state law may not supercede Federal law . Been there , done that . However , if you think you might _EVER_ drive it at night (you will) PLEASE add the passenger side taillight for safety and common sense . -Nate Will wrote: Ok, well I learned something new this morning. Yes, the left tail light is the only one present, so I seem to be ok. Now, let me pose this question: How do you explain this to a cop? There's bound to be a time that someone will be stopped and an unaware cop tries to write a ticket for something that is perfectly original. I don't envision staying completely original in this matter for the sake of safety, but until I deal with more pressing issues, this might just remain. Thanks Jim. I'm still open to suggestions about vendors though, for future parts...will Lowery, Jim wrote: Hey Will, If you have a left hand tail light on your '51, that's all she ever had, you're actually not missing anything. That said, a lot of us yield from original to add a right hand light - I did after I realized my teenage boy was driving mine after dark, etc, and it was just common sense to do so. I bought mine from Chevy Duty, along with a bracket, am completely satisfied with its quality. Only thing was, theirs only comes with a stainless bezel, and my left-hand was plain painted metal. So for them to match, I either had to paint the stainless or buy a new bezel for left hand. Jim R. Lowery, 1952 Chevy 1/2 ton, Deluxe cab Abilene, Texas -Original Message- From: Will Nelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:26 AM To: Ole-Chevy-Truck Post; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [old-chevy-truck] Tail lights I am in need of another tail light as one is missing on my truck. Can a few of you suggest a place that offers high quality ones? I am a bit leery of ordering from Chevy Duty after several comments I have picked up on indicate that they do not always offer high quality parts. On that note, is there any one particular dealer that offers superior service plus good quality parts. I'm open to suggestions as I have no experience with any of the vendors and will likely be needing some parts that I cannot find locally. Thanks guys., Will Nelle Longview, TX 51 Chev 3600 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Ole Chevy and GMC trucks rule! To unsubscribe, send an email (with no subject, no body, just the email), to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
