Re: [Call-for-Review]Bug 120271 - Stock chart using Date as Category has Incorrect min/max candlestick value
Hi~ Tian Bo, Basically I can understand the root cause of this defect and your solution. But could you please have a explanation in this issue in order to let more people easily understand the problem? I think the root cause is when update the chart view, VSeriesPlotter::getMaximumYInRange will call VDataSeriesGroup::getMinimumAndMaximiumYInContinuousXRange if the axis is date format (if( !m_bCategoryXAxis || ( m_pExplicitCategoriesProvider m_pExplicitCategoriesProvider-isDateAxis() ) )). That is why only when the axis is changed to date format, the problem happen. But my question is, why only for date axis, the maxinum and minimun Y values need to be recalculated? Is it really necessary? And about your solution, you add special handlig in VDataSeriesGroup::getMinimumAndMaximiumYInContinuousXRange to detect maxinum and minimum Y value. As your comment, it is for candle stick chart only because I think only stock chart have maxinum and minimum Y values. my concern is VDataSeriesGroup::getMinimumAndMaximiumYInContinuousXRange is a common method, it is not very good to add special code here for only one chart type because for most charts, they don't have maxinum and minimum Y values. That means this code is redundant in most cases. My suggestion is change CandleStickChart.cxx which is particually for stock chart view. Can you make VSeriesPlotter::getMinimumAndMaximiumYInContinuousXRange to virtual and have a new implementation in CandleStickChart which derive from VSeriesPlotter and add your code in the new implementation? 2012/7/13 bo.tian bo.t...@cs2c.com.cn I had fix the bug 120271 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120271 Could anyone help me to review the fix ? And how was my last fix of bug 112701 ? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=112701 bo.tian
Re: [Call-for-Review]Bug 120271 - Stock chart using Date as Category has Incorrect min/max candlestick value
On 13.07.2012 05:45, bo.tian wrote: I had fix the bug 120271 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120271 Could anyone help me to review the fix ? And how was my last fix of bug 112701 ? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=112701 I took the liberty to set the flag for request of a preview for your patch of bug 112701 (and the modification provided by Pedro Giffuni). Without that flag the patch might go unnoticed for even longer. -Andre bo.tian
Re: Next steps for Symphony and AOO
--- Ven 13/7/12, Greg Madden ha scritto: ... I have been testing the Symphony deb packages. The 'properties' area is a nice feature, not compelling enough to re-base AOO on Symphony. AOO has progressed, new feaures that I use more than the 'properties area'. thanks for the feedback. The drop down list for 'open document' on the initial screen with all apps is missing. 'ToolsOpenoffice,orgViewUser InterfaceScaleing' is not included. AFAICT, The symphony builds were not meant to be production ready, just meant to show the basic features. I am not interested in losing features that I have incorporated in my work flow, for promises of a 'better whatever' Document fidelity has been outstanding in AOO , add Symphony feaures to AOO if appropriate, by user demand not from the top down. I agree, we all want a better product and the challenge is to preserve all the feature set with no regressions. Pedro.
[CallForReview][Filter]Two fixes for issues related to shape
Hi, all I have two fixes for below two issues: For line arrow style: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119495 For text box text alignment: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119517 Could anyone help me to review? Regards - Jianyuan
Re: [wiki][help] I cannot log into QA pages
Hi On 7/12/2012 21:48, liu ping wrote: I meet the same condition on IE 8 ,but delete all the cookies/history/temporarily data ..., IE work well I also execute the below step on firefox browser, work well On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:11 AM, lou ql louqin...@gmail.com wrote: Click the login/create account at the top-right corner, then enter my username and password, click login the page refreshed, but at the top-rigth corner, it still display log in/create account but not my name... I click it again the page containing user name and password fields appears, while the top-right corner displays my name now... Then I click my contributions and select the page I want to edit. unfortunately, log in/create account displaying in the coming page thus I cannot edit the page... I tried reopen the web browser, clean the historycookies, with firefox or IE, all fails... I can login the main page( http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page), and also correct when I go to those I never opened. But once I open the QA pages, I will be kicked out. -- Regards, Lou QingLe This is a stale page problem, caused by the interaction between Apache Traffic Server and the MediaWiki software. Some tuning by a site maintainer is needed to fix it. You may encounter the problem during login, or just after editing a page. There is a good workaround (purge=1) detailed at: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Moving_Day /tj/
Re: will the product version change from 3.4 to 3.4.1?
On 7/13/12 7:01 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: QL, Suggest you to submit a defect for the version number. Thanks! I need a clear pointer where I have potentially overseen a version string. The micro number won't be reflected in all places. The next time I will document it... Bo, as I aware, there is no plan to change 3.4.1 to 3.5. Do you mean your defect fix was checked in to 350? everything is correct here branch AOO34 - 341 trunk - 350 Juergen - Simon 2012/7/13 bo.tian bo.t...@cs2c.com.cn I have noticed that the folder name in solver had been already changed into 350. Does it mean we will skip 3.4.1 ? I install 1359641 build on my XP and notice that on install panels the product version is still 3.4 but not 3.4.1. The shortcuts on desktop and start menu remain 3.4. But the version No. in help-about has been updated to 3.4.1 -- Regards, Lou QingLe
Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1][DEV-BUILD]: propose next dev snapshot for 3.4.1 based on revision 1359641
On 7/13/12 2:31 AM, Ji Yan wrote: Download successfully, Juergen thanks. I should mention that at least the MacOS and Windows binaries are signed and signature and checksum files (sha..., asc, md5) can be found in the same directory checkout http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/r1359641/macos http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/r1359641/windows http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/r1359641/src For those who want to test this as well Juergen 2012/7/12 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 7/12/12 10:22 AM, Ji Yan wrote: I tried download Windows build from [1]. It said forbidden. Does file permission set correctly? corrected now, please try again, sorry Juergen [1]http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/r1359641/windows/ 2012/7/12 Khoem Sokhem khoemsok...@khmeros.info On 12-Jul-12 3:04 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 7/10/12 4:52 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next dev snapshots for AOO 3.4.1 based on the revision 1359641. I would like to add 1 further languages for Slovak (sk) Languages: en-US ar cs de en-GB es fi fr gl hu it ja km nl ru sk sl pt-BR zh-CN zh-TW For better and complete testing I suggest that we build full install sets this time instead of dev builds. I expect a RC build next week when we don't detect serious issues. The builds will be made available under https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** Development+Snapshot+Builds https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds MacOS and Windows versions are available I cannot download Windows version for Khmer! It said Not Found. Thanks, Sokhem
Re: 3.4.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 120172] [Crash]After undo delete text box with animation assgined, edit the textbox will cause a crash.
On 09.07.2012 15:36, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 7/3/12 11:32 AM, bugzi...@apache.org wrote: Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com has asked for 3.4.1_release_blocker: Bug 120172: [Crash]After undo delete text box with animation assgined, edit the textbox will cause a crash. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120172 --- Additional Comments from Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com Reproduced in AOO 3.4.1 dev snapshot build do we have already a fix for this issue and/or is somebody working on this? Yes and me. -Andre
3.4.1_release_blocker granted: [Bug 120172] [Crash]After undo delete text box with animation assgined, edit the textbox will cause a crash.
j...@apache.org has granted Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com's request for 3.4.1_release_blocker: Bug 120172: [Crash]After undo delete text box with animation assgined, edit the textbox will cause a crash. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120172 --- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org set release blocker flag to 3.4.1
Re: r1360913: Updated slovenian dictionary
On 7/12/12 10:42 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; The Slovenian dictionary we are carrying in http://sl.openoffice.org will eventually be removed due to restrictive licensing. I updated the Slovenian dictionary using the one on this site: http://www.tezaver.si/ (which appears to be an updated version of the one we carry). I don't speak slovenian so I can't test it beyond noticing that the file can be fetched and unzipped. The change should probably be merged to 3.4.1 upon successful testing. this sounds reasonable to me and I would support the integration in 3.4.1 if somebody who speaks Slovenian can provide some feedback about this extension. Is it an useful update, is it stable, etc. @Martin: do you have an opinion on this? Juergen
Re: 3.4.1_release_blocker granted: [Bug 120172] [Crash]After undo delete text box with animation assgined, edit the textbox will cause a crash.
On 13.07.2012 11:41, bugzi...@apache.org wrote: j...@apache.org has granted Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com's request for 3.4.1_release_blocker: Bug 120172: [Crash]After undo delete text box with animation assgined, edit the textbox will cause a crash. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120172 --- Additional Comments from j...@apache.org set release blocker flag to 3.4.1 Merged fix into 3.4.1 branch. -Andre
Re: Java download link on AOO site
On 7/12/12 9:44 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 00:39:17 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a écrit : Why does Hagar need an agent to carry this out? Isn't Hagar a committer and therefore can't he edit the page himself with the CMS? JFDI Hagar. This does not need discussion unless you require more documentation about how to use the CMS. Sorry but I know nothing about that. I'm a committer because it's a requirement to be PPMC but I don't intend to have any activity in such areas. I did this and published the site. It took 3 minutes. It is very easy to make simple edits. Rob has made a good video tour. Joe has spent a lot of effort creating the Apache CMS and making sure that it worked for projects like ours. Let's not consider his short messages encouraging people to be anything negative. It is more like encouraging someone to dive into the pool for the first time. I don't want to comment the so called mentor advice here on this thread further. People who have read this thread have learned the lesson or anti lesson depending from where you are coming and looking on the project. It would be nice if all people could do everything in the project but the reality looks different. Especially if a project is so huge as AOO and where a lot of non developers are part of the project. I don't see a real problem here. Everybody should do what he can do and what the time allows. And by the way it's a requirement of Apache to be a committer to get access to some tools etc. Just an appeal and advice from me to Hagar 1. keep on doing your good work for the project and especially in the forum, it is very important work and the project needs you!!! 2. if you have time and if you are interested to learn more about the CMS watch the video from Rob (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcDZN3Lu6HA) that Dave has mentioned already. It is of course no rocket science and you can make smaller changes quite easy. Have a nice weekend Juergen
[HELP] How to get started?
Hello everybody, I am new to open source software development. I have some beginner's questions 1. What are the tools needed for OOA development? 2. Is there any preferred operating system our any will do? Thank you.
Re: vcl field.cxx issue 150733 invalid float operation
Hi Herbert, Does it help if you replace the call to that inline method isFinite() to the macro SAL_MATH_FINITE()? no, now code uses finite() but still crashes. unfortunately debugger is unable to stop in the crashing line, so I don't know exactly which float op fails. thanks! -- Bye, Yuri Dario /* * OS/2 open source software * http://web.os2power.com/yuri * http://www.netlabs.org */
Re: [HELP] How to get started?
Hi, Nazmul Alam schrieb: Hello everybody, I am new to open source software development. I have some beginner's questions 1. What are the tools needed for OOA development? If you will start with core development, the first step is to get an own build. Please look at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO. Don't hesitate to ask here, if something does not work as described there. If you will develop extensions, you should start with downloading the SDK. 2. Is there any preferred operating system our any will do? What do you like to use? You will find links to those things, which are special for an operating system in the Wiki-page mentioned above. Kind regards Regina
Re: Java download link on AOO site
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java points to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE): http://java.com/en/download/**manual.jsphttp://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp). We should point to a 1.6 version to avoid problems with Java 1.7 and AOO: http://java.com/en/download/**manual_v6.jsphttp://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp Link is in the Documentation section, right of the page: http://www.openoffice.org/**download/index.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html Hagar ummm...two things on this... -- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues http://markmail.org/thread/l2vhaqn7d6xvbfi3 -- I might caution against having users download java 6, assuming they have no java 7, due to security concerns and possibly other inconsistencies with whatever OS they are using. Bottom line -- I'm not sure we should change the java download to version 6 over 7. Maybe others feel there is a compelling reason for this downgrade, I don't know. as an FYI -- I have java 7 installed and no problems so far. -- MzK I would rather have a donkey that takes me there than a horse that will not fare. -- Portuguese proverb
Re: Java download link on AOO site
On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java points to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE): http://java.com/en/download/**manual.jsphttp://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp). We should point to a 1.6 version to avoid problems with Java 1.7 and AOO: http://java.com/en/download/**manual_v6.jsphttp://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp Link is in the Documentation section, right of the page: http://www.openoffice.org/**download/index.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html Hagar ummm...two things on this... -- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues http://markmail.org/thread/l2vhaqn7d6xvbfi3 -- I might caution against having users download java 6, assuming they have no java 7, due to security concerns and possibly other inconsistencies with whatever OS they are using. Bottom line -- I'm not sure we should change the java download to version 6 over 7. Maybe others feel there is a compelling reason for this downgrade, I don't know. as an FYI -- I have java 7 installed and no problems so far. FYI - I made the change that Hagar suggested. Please feel free to revert. Regards, Dave PS. I wish people would not feel offended by criticism. PPS. I wish more volunteers would CTR more about the site. PPPS. There has been a lot of Review without results - eg. TOU and forum.openoffice.org. -- MzK I would rather have a donkey that takes me there than a horse that will not fare. -- Portuguese proverb
Re: Java download link on AOO site
Hi Kay, On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:45:18AM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: ummm...two things on this... -- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues http://markmail.org/thread/l2vhaqn7d6xvbfi3 see Olaf mail. In the meantime some Windows users have experienced problems with AOO and Java 7. So far the bug cannot be reproduced, and we don't know for sure how important it is/how many users are affected (regarding the 7 million download, most on Windows platforms, the bug reports are very few, so my assumption is that this bug is reproducible only under very rare and specific circumstances). -- I might caution against having users download java 6, assuming they have no java 7, due to security concerns and possibly other inconsistencies with whatever OS they are using. Bottom line -- I'm not sure we should change the java download to version 6 over 7. Maybe others feel there is a compelling reason for this downgrade, I don't know. as an FYI -- I have java 7 installed and no problems so far. me too, I have only OpenJDK 7 in my system; but we use Linux. The bug has been reported only on Windows. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpAXvRLZ6K29.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Java download link on AOO site
Am 13.07.2012 19:45, Kay Schenk wrote: ummm...two things on this... -- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues http://markmail.org/thread/l2vhaqn7d6xvbfi3 -- I might caution against having users download java 6, assuming they have no java 7, due to security concerns and possibly other inconsistencies with whatever OS they are using. Bottom line -- I'm not sure we should change the java download to version 6 over 7. Maybe others feel there is a compelling reason for this downgrade, I don't know. as an FYI -- I have java 7 installed and no problems so far. Java7 does not work at all with AOO under 64 bit Windows. There are reports about popular extensions being incompatible with Java7.
Re: Java download link on AOO site
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote: Java7 does not work at all with AOO under 64 bit Windows. There are reports about popular extensions being incompatible with Java7. What *version* of Java7?... that is the key remember when Java7 shipped there was a nasty bug** that caused segfaults on the VM under very precise circumstances. Then it was fixed by the time of the Java 7 Update 2 release. And now Java 7 is up to version J7u5 (Java 7 Update 5). So, when you say Java 7 what build of Java 7 do you mean? it' s quite possible that those reports about java extensions crashing under Java 7 were actually a result of the nasty J7 GA vm with its nasty VM JIT optimization bug, and quite irrelevant and solved by now by users who install J7u5... FWIW the download URLs are: J7u5 32bit (win32) http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=65692 J7u5 64-bit* http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=65693 (neither redirector requires an annoying log-in or clicking for accepting of Oracle TOS, as is required when downloading from the Oracle.com page) Just my $0.02... FC *does not include auto-updater feature as explained in http://java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml ** http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6894104/how-serious-is-the-java7-solr-lucene-bug -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell
sino puede ayudarme, por favor deme el email, de alguien que si pueda ayudarme
Hola quiero crear base de datos para mi negocio que es grande, no empresa sino mas o menos micro empresa, y tengo ciertas dudas, agradecería su ayuda. Cual es la diferencia entre libre office y apache open office? Cual es mejor y porque? Existe alguna ventaja en que haya sido donado a apache? Cuales son la ventajas que tiene el libre office o el openoffice sobre Microsoft Access? Por favor no me diga que la ventaja es que es gratuito, porque eso no importa mucho. Lo que importa es que me sirva para mi negocio que es un poco grande Se utiliza en las computadoras de wallstreet libre office o open office? Las potentes computadoras que fabrica ibm, utilizan open office o libre office? Base es superior a acces o puede competir con access, o estan en igualdad? Calc es superior a Excel o puede competir con excel, o estan en igualdad? Writer es superior a Latex o puede competir con latex, o estan en igualdad? Existe algo mejor que Access o que Excel? Me dijeron que Oracle es el mejor de todas las bases de datos, pero se paga bastante dinero, y yo quiero algo que este al alcance de mi bolsillo y que me sirva en el futuro, estoy por estudiar estadística y matemáticas, y se que algún día trabajare en Wall Street. Yo lo quiero para mi empresa me lo recomendaría, o que me serviría mejor que Access, no importa el dinero? Si Microsoft es mejor entonces pondré Microsoft en mi pequeño negocio. no sabía a quién escribirle, si es posible podría darme por favor el email de quien pueda responder a mis interrogantes. Agradeceré su pronta respuesta, Gracias.
Re: sino puede ayudarme, por favor deme el email, de alguien que si pueda ayudarme
This is an english-only list, please reffer to the spanish list or forum for assistance. http://es.openoffice.org/ http://user.services.openoffice.org/es/forum/ Esta es una lista unicamente en ingles, por favor pregunte en una lista en español o el foro en español que tenemos. http://es.openoffice.org/ http://user.services.openoffice.org/es/forum/ 2012/7/13 Armando Barrera varios2...@hotmail.com Hola quiero crear base de datos para mi negocio que es grande, no empresa sino mas o menos micro empresa, y tengo ciertas dudas, agradecería su ayuda. Cual es la diferencia entre libre office y apache open office? Cual es mejor y porque? Existe alguna ventaja en que haya sido donado a apache? Cuales son la ventajas que tiene el libre office o el openoffice sobre Microsoft Access? Por favor no me diga que la ventaja es que es gratuito, porque eso no importa mucho. Lo que importa es que me sirva para mi negocio que es un poco grande Se utiliza en las computadoras de wallstreet libre office o open office? Las potentes computadoras que fabrica ibm, utilizan open office o libre office? Base es superior a acces o puede competir con access, o estan en igualdad? Calc es superior a Excel o puede competir con excel, o estan en igualdad? Writer es superior a Latex o puede competir con latex, o estan en igualdad? Existe algo mejor que Access o que Excel? Me dijeron que Oracle es el mejor de todas las bases de datos, pero se paga bastante dinero, y yo quiero algo que este al alcance de mi bolsillo y que me sirva en el futuro, estoy por estudiar estadística y matemáticas, y se que algún día trabajare en Wall Street. Yo lo quiero para mi empresa me lo recomendaría, o que me serviría mejor que Access, no importa el dinero? Si Microsoft es mejor entonces pondré Microsoft en mi pequeño negocio. no sabía a quién escribirle, si es posible podría darme por favor el email de quien pueda responder a mis interrogantes. Agradeceré su pronta respuesta, Gracias.
Re: sino puede ayudarme, por favor deme el email, de alguien que si pueda ayudarme
2012/7/13 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org: This is an english-only list, please reffer to the spanish list or forum for assistance. http://es.openoffice.org/ http://user.services.openoffice.org/es/forum/ The same poster also sent this message to all of the other ooo-* lists, users, l10n, dev, marketing, qa, even security. As moderator I rejected all but this one. -Rob Esta es una lista unicamente en ingles, por favor pregunte en una lista en español o el foro en español que tenemos. http://es.openoffice.org/ http://user.services.openoffice.org/es/forum/ 2012/7/13 Armando Barrera varios2...@hotmail.com Hola quiero crear base de datos para mi negocio que es grande, no empresa sino mas o menos micro empresa, y tengo ciertas dudas, agradecería su ayuda. Cual es la diferencia entre libre office y apache open office? Cual es mejor y porque? Existe alguna ventaja en que haya sido donado a apache? Cuales son la ventajas que tiene el libre office o el openoffice sobre Microsoft Access? Por favor no me diga que la ventaja es que es gratuito, porque eso no importa mucho. Lo que importa es que me sirva para mi negocio que es un poco grande Se utiliza en las computadoras de wallstreet libre office o open office? Las potentes computadoras que fabrica ibm, utilizan open office o libre office? Base es superior a acces o puede competir con access, o estan en igualdad? Calc es superior a Excel o puede competir con excel, o estan en igualdad? Writer es superior a Latex o puede competir con latex, o estan en igualdad? Existe algo mejor que Access o que Excel? Me dijeron que Oracle es el mejor de todas las bases de datos, pero se paga bastante dinero, y yo quiero algo que este al alcance de mi bolsillo y que me sirva en el futuro, estoy por estudiar estadística y matemáticas, y se que algún día trabajare en Wall Street. Yo lo quiero para mi empresa me lo recomendaría, o que me serviría mejor que Access, no importa el dinero? Si Microsoft es mejor entonces pondré Microsoft en mi pequeño negocio. no sabía a quién escribirle, si es posible podría darme por favor el email de quien pueda responder a mis interrogantes. Agradeceré su pronta respuesta, Gracias.
Re: sino puede ayudarme, por favor deme el email, de alguien que si pueda ayudarme
2012/7/13 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: 2012/7/13 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org: This is an english-only list, please reffer to the spanish list or forum for assistance. http://es.openoffice.org/ http://user.services.openoffice.org/es/forum/ The same poster also sent this message to all of the other ooo-* lists, users, l10n, dev, marketing, qa, even security. As moderator I rejected all but this one. Now I've seen it sent to ooo-private, as well as two more times each to ooo-dev and ooo-users, all in the last 5 minutes.. This is starting to feel like spam or a social DoS attack on the lists. -Rob -Rob Esta es una lista unicamente en ingles, por favor pregunte en una lista en español o el foro en español que tenemos. http://es.openoffice.org/ http://user.services.openoffice.org/es/forum/ 2012/7/13 Armando Barrera varios2...@hotmail.com Hola quiero crear base de datos para mi negocio que es grande, no empresa sino mas o menos micro empresa, y tengo ciertas dudas, agradecería su ayuda. Cual es la diferencia entre libre office y apache open office? Cual es mejor y porque? Existe alguna ventaja en que haya sido donado a apache? Cuales son la ventajas que tiene el libre office o el openoffice sobre Microsoft Access? Por favor no me diga que la ventaja es que es gratuito, porque eso no importa mucho. Lo que importa es que me sirva para mi negocio que es un poco grande Se utiliza en las computadoras de wallstreet libre office o open office? Las potentes computadoras que fabrica ibm, utilizan open office o libre office? Base es superior a acces o puede competir con access, o estan en igualdad? Calc es superior a Excel o puede competir con excel, o estan en igualdad? Writer es superior a Latex o puede competir con latex, o estan en igualdad? Existe algo mejor que Access o que Excel? Me dijeron que Oracle es el mejor de todas las bases de datos, pero se paga bastante dinero, y yo quiero algo que este al alcance de mi bolsillo y que me sirva en el futuro, estoy por estudiar estadística y matemáticas, y se que algún día trabajare en Wall Street. Yo lo quiero para mi empresa me lo recomendaría, o que me serviría mejor que Access, no importa el dinero? Si Microsoft es mejor entonces pondré Microsoft en mi pequeño negocio. no sabía a quién escribirle, si es posible podría darme por favor el email de quien pueda responder a mis interrogantes. Agradeceré su pronta respuesta, Gracias.
Re: sino puede ayudarme, por favor deme el email, de alguien que si pueda ayudarme
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 04:38:05PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: 2012/7/13 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: 2012/7/13 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org: This is an english-only list, please reffer to the spanish list or forum for assistance. http://es.openoffice.org/ http://user.services.openoffice.org/es/forum/ The same poster also sent this message to all of the other ooo-* lists, users, l10n, dev, marketing, qa, even security. As moderator I rejected all but this one. Now I've seen it sent to ooo-private, as well as two more times each to ooo-dev and ooo-users, all in the last 5 minutes.. This is starting to feel like spam or a social DoS attack on the lists. or may be a rather confused user with no idea about FOSS. His question was already answered by Ricardo http://markmail.org/message/qiw2mmszfpdhaon6 Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgp3ebFF6Q7Hn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Java download link on AOO site
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.dewrote: Am 13.07.2012 19:45, Kay Schenk wrote: ummm...two things on this... -- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues http://markmail.org/thread/**l2vhaqn7d6xvbfi3http://markmail.org/thread/l2vhaqn7d6xvbfi3 -- I might caution against having users download java 6, assuming they have no java 7, due to security concerns and possibly other inconsistencies with whatever OS they are using. Bottom line -- I'm not sure we should change the java download to version 6 over 7. Maybe others feel there is a compelling reason for this downgrade, I don't know. as an FYI -- I have java 7 installed and no problems so far. Java7 does not work at all with AOO under 64 bit Windows. There are reports about popular extensions being incompatible with Java7. OK, maybe you could file a bug report on this specific case if one doesn't already exist. I reviewed the 3 BZ postings that Fernando references, and one was fixed and the others seemed inconclusive. I don't doubt that we would come across extensions that are incompatible with Java 7. Thanks. -- MzK I would rather have a donkey that takes me there than a horse that will not fare. -- Portuguese proverb
Re: Java download link on AOO site
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java points to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE): http://java.com/en/download/**manual.jsp http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp). We should point to a 1.6 version to avoid problems with Java 1.7 and AOO: http://java.com/en/download/**manual_v6.jsp http://java.com/en/download/manual_v6.jsp Link is in the Documentation section, right of the page: http://www.openoffice.org/**download/index.html http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html Hagar ummm...two things on this... -- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues http://markmail.org/thread/l2vhaqn7d6xvbfi3 -- I might caution against having users download java 6, assuming they have no java 7, due to security concerns and possibly other inconsistencies with whatever OS they are using. Bottom line -- I'm not sure we should change the java download to version 6 over 7. Maybe others feel there is a compelling reason for this downgrade, I don't know. as an FYI -- I have java 7 installed and no problems so far. FYI - I made the change that Hagar suggested. Please feel free to revert. Regards, Dave OK, I will do some more investigation over the next day or so. I would much prefer if we have something like a 90% success rate with java 7, to NOT revert back and suggest java version 6. Unfortunately, I have no good suggestions for how to actually quantify this. PS. I wish people would not feel offended by criticism. PPS. I wish more volunteers would CTR more about the site. PPPS. There has been a lot of Review without results - eg. TOU and forum.openoffice.org. -- MzK I would rather have a donkey that takes me there than a horse that will not fare. -- Portuguese proverb -- MzK I would rather have a donkey that takes me there than a horse that will not fare. -- Portuguese proverb
Re: Java download link on AOO site
Le ven. 13 juil. 2012 07:01:58 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a écrit : The biggest problem with this project is the prevalence of people who are unskilled in the codebase occupying all the oxygen on the dev list. This list, unlike the forums, is about project development, and teaching others to behave in productive ways by *demonstrating* the behavior you want to see from others here. I just can't believe it. Do you mean that I'm part of the prevalent people who pollute this list? ROFLOL I don't have the time to learn another system again (as some have correctly guessed). Period. Next time I report a bug, will you ask me to learn how to code and fix it myself??? But thanks, lesson learned, I won't bother this list anymore with this kind of problem, next time I'll file a bug report directly. I made the mistake to think that the target was to build a welcoming community where the most skilled people could take over the job when less skilled ones could not. BTW, thanks to the people who expressed their support and understanding about the limits we all have to face at some point. Hagar
Re: Java download link on AOO site
Hi Hagar, BTW - Kay has picked up what the real topic you brought here was, and this is something that is much more for discussion than it is something to simply change. On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: Le ven. 13 juil. 2012 07:01:58 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a écrit : The biggest problem with this project is the prevalence of people who are unskilled in the codebase occupying all the oxygen on the dev list. This list, unlike the forums, is about project development, and teaching others to behave in productive ways by *demonstrating* the behavior you want to see from others here. I just can't believe it. Do you mean that I'm part of the prevalent people who pollute this list? ROFLOL I don't have the time to learn another system again (as some have correctly guessed). Period. Next time I report a bug, will you ask me to learn how to code and fix it myself??? But thanks, lesson learned, I won't bother this list anymore with this kind of problem, next time I'll file a bug report directly. The only lesson anyone should take is that Joe is sometimes harsh. And it has been a difficult process mentoring this project for a solid year. I have time to fix what I can on the website from the reports that I see on this list ooo-dev. I do not spend any time looking in Bugzilla for web reports. This is a place to discuss what is going on in the community. I made the mistake to think that the target was to build a welcoming community where the most skilled people could take over the job when less skilled ones could not. It is, but we also want others (not necessarily you) to learn the easy things and even some of the harder things with the CMS. In the ooo-site's perl modules only Joe and I have done any commits that were not initial or build triggering. In the ooo-site's template directory we are up to 7 different people making commits so there are more making changes. I think for the ooo-site by rough count the number is over 20 different committers since the 3.4 release. BTW, thanks to the people who expressed their support and understanding about the limits we all have to face at some point. I think letting one person's responses chase you away is very unfortunate. If you don't like something someone says just ignore it. And I don't have time for this either. Regards, Dave Hagar
