Correct typo on https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/

[Kazunari Hirano]

Hi all,

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/
In "Categories" and "Feeds" on the page above I can see "Japenese."
I would like this typo to be corrected.
"Japenese" to "Japanese."

Can anyone tell me which list should I ask to correct the typo?

Thanks,
khirano
-- 
khir...@apache.org
Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Build fails in main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi Damjan,

On 17.10.2012 20:12, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Armin Le Grand  wrote:

 Hi,



--snip--



It's most definitely NOT fixed, even in revision 1399319:

[ build CXX ] drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d
/path/to/AOO/main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx: In member
function 'sal_uInt8
drawinglayer::texture::GeoTexSvxBitmapEx::impGetTransparence(sal_Int32&,
sal_Int32&) const':
/path/to/AOO/main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx:137:78:
error: call of overloaded 'Color(const BitmapColor&)' is ambiguous
/path/to/AOO/main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx:137:78:
note: candidates are:
/path/to/AOO/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/inc/tools/color.hxx:120:7:
note: Color::Color(ColorData)
/path/to/AOO/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/inc/tools/color.hxx:113:23:
note: Color::Color(const Color&)
make: *** 
[/path/to/AOO/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/CxxObject/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.o]
Error 1
dmake:  Error code 2, while making 'all'


Sorry, but I'm normally building on Win (as I mentioned) and there the 
error does not happen. I had no access to a linux box yesterday, but I 
started a fresh checkout&build on linux one hour ago.





Attached is a possible patch (texture3d.patch) which gets it to
compile successfully but I don't want to apply it because it could be
semantically wrong.


Patches are automatically removed on the lists, as it seems.


Also attached is another patch (objectcontacttools.patch) for a
problem that breaks the build later on, because
"drawinglayer::processor2d::canvasProcessor2D" doesn't exist
(according to grep). Simply commenting out that section of code gets
it to compile. It seems that someone has already done similar
commenting for Windows in the "#ifdef WIN32" just above my patch?
Since when was AOO a Windows-only project?


I will also check this; It's not a win-only project, but when developing 
it's not easy to build on all plattforms to check. This should certainly 
be done for bigger changes and a branch should be used, but even then 
there will be a time gap between this and the trunk integration.



Also it was necessary to use ld.gold for at least part of the build.

Please use those buildbots and keep AOO compiling on all platforms.


Yes, these build the trunk, so they check after checkin, too.
I'm on it...

Sorry again, but these implicit conversons seem to be triggered 
differently on different systems.



Regards
Damjan



Sincerely,
Armin
--
ALG

Re: Build fails in main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx

[Damjan Jovanovic]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Armin Le Grand  wrote:
> Hi Damjan,
>
>
> On 17.10.2012 20:12, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Armin Le Grand 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>
> --snip--
>
>
>>
>> It's most definitely NOT fixed, even in revision 1399319:
>>
>> [ build CXX ] drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d
>> /path/to/AOO/main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx: In member
>> function 'sal_uInt8
>> drawinglayer::texture::GeoTexSvxBitmapEx::impGetTransparence(sal_Int32&,
>> sal_Int32&) const':
>> /path/to/AOO/main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx:137:78:
>> error: call of overloaded 'Color(const BitmapColor&)' is ambiguous
>> /path/to/AOO/main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx:137:78:
>> note: candidates are:
>> /path/to/AOO/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/inc/tools/color.hxx:120:7:
>> note: Color::Color(ColorData)
>> /path/to/AOO/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/inc/tools/color.hxx:113:23:
>> note: Color::Color(const Color&)
>> make: ***
>> [/path/to/AOO/main/solver/350/unxlngx6.pro/workdir/CxxObject/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.o]
>> Error 1
>> dmake:  Error code 2, while making 'all'
>
>
> Sorry, but I'm normally building on Win (as I mentioned) and there the error
> does not happen. I had no access to a linux box yesterday, but I started a
> fresh checkout&build on linux one hour ago.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Attached is a possible patch (texture3d.patch) which gets it to
>> compile successfully but I don't want to apply it because it could be
>> semantically wrong.
>
>
> Patches are automatically removed on the lists, as it seems.
>

Here they are in plain text then:

--snip--
Index: main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx
===
--- main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx  (revision 1399340)
+++ main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx  (working copy)
@@ -134,7 +134,7 @@
 {
 const BitmapColor
aBitmapColor(mpReadBitmap->GetColor(rY, rX));

-if(maBitmapEx.GetTransparentColor() == Color(aBitmapColor))
+if(maBitmapEx.GetTransparentColor() ==
Color((ColorData)aBitmapColor))
 {
 return 255;
 }
--snip--


which could be simpler (combine it with your previous patch), if it's
even correct, and


--snip--
Index: main/svx/source/sdr/contact/objectcontacttools.cxx
===
--- main/svx/source/sdr/contact/objectcontacttools.cxx  (revision 1399340)
+++ main/svx/source/sdr/contact/objectcontacttools.cxx  (working copy)
@@ -77,18 +77,18 @@
return new
drawinglayer::processor2d::VclPixelProcessor2D(rViewInformation2D,
rTargetOutDev);
 //}
 #else
-static bool bTryTestCanvas(false);
-
-if(bTryTestCanvas)
-{
-   // create test-cancas-Processor
-   return new
drawinglayer::processor2d::canvasProcessor2D(rViewInformation2D,
rTargetOutDev);
-}
-else
-{
+//static bool bTryTestCanvas(false);
+//
+//if(bTryTestCanvas)
+//{
+// // create test-cancas-Processor
+// return new
drawinglayer::processor2d::canvasProcessor2D(rViewInformation2D,
rTargetOutDev);
+//}
+//else
+//{
// create Pixel Vcl-Processor
return new
drawinglayer::processor2d::VclPixelProcessor2D(rViewInformation2D,
rTargetOutDev);
-}
+//}
 #endif
}
}
--snip--

Thank you and I appreciate your efforts
Damjan

Re: NewWikiMainPage

[Ariel Constenla-Haile]

Hi Mladen,

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:32:57AM +0200, Mladen Đalto wrote:
> Greetings,
> I cant download Croatian dictionary (Spelling) form
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries#Croatian_.28Croatia.29
> ,
> and other languages seam to have the same problem.

This page is outdated, and as it seems no longer maintained; you can
read an IMPORTANT NOTE at the beginning: 

IMPORTANT NOTE: From OpenOffice.org 3.0 on the dictionary wizard is no
longer available -- All new dictionaries are now available via the
Extensions Repository.
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/dictionary

Couldn't you find the dictionary on the extensions site? I can see only
this http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/dict-hr


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

[Andrea Pescetti]

The Apache Software Foundation today announced that Apache OpenOffice 
has graduated from the Apache Incubator to become a Top-Level Project, 
signifying that the Project's community and products have been 
well-governed under the ASF's meritocratic process and principles.


In the near future there will be some changes to the website and mailing 
lists, as we move out of the Incubator. Details of changes will be 
posted on our wiki at

http://s.apache.org/openoffice-graduation-changes

But aside from these small administrative and infrastructure changes, 
work on the next release of Apache OpenOffice continues.


More details in the blog post here:

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Build fails in main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi Damjan,

On 18.10.2012 12:02, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Armin Le Grand  wrote:

--snip--


Here they are in plain text then:

--snip--
Index: main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx
===
--- main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx  (revision 1399340)
+++ main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx  (working copy)
@@ -134,7 +134,7 @@
  {
  const BitmapColor
aBitmapColor(mpReadBitmap->GetColor(rY, rX));

-if(maBitmapEx.GetTransparentColor() == Color(aBitmapColor))
+if(maBitmapEx.GetTransparentColor() ==
Color((ColorData)aBitmapColor))
  {
  return 255;
  }
--snip--


which could be simpler (combine it with your previous patch), if it's
even correct, and


..but will convert BitmapColor to sal_uInt8 (because there is a inline 
operator in the class BitmapColor), then casting to sal_uInt32 (since 
ColorData is a typedef to sal_uInt32) and thus would be wrong. Sigh.


Herbert is right, these operators are dangerous. I found two ways:
(a) extract RGB by feet from BitmapColor and construct a Color with it
(b) use the 'operator Color()' : '== aBitmapColor.operator Color()'

Where (a) will need more code, and (b) looks ugly.
I tend to (b) currently...

Build nearly finished...

Sincerely,
Armin



--snip--
Index: main/svx/source/sdr/contact/objectcontacttools.cxx
===
--- main/svx/source/sdr/contact/objectcontacttools.cxx  (revision 1399340)
+++ main/svx/source/sdr/contact/objectcontacttools.cxx  (working copy)
@@ -77,18 +77,18 @@
return new
drawinglayer::processor2d::VclPixelProcessor2D(rViewInformation2D,
rTargetOutDev);
  //}
  #else
-static bool bTryTestCanvas(false);
-
-if(bTryTestCanvas)
-{
-   // create test-cancas-Processor
-   return new
drawinglayer::processor2d::canvasProcessor2D(rViewInformation2D,
rTargetOutDev);
-}
-else
-{
+//static bool bTryTestCanvas(false);
+//
+//if(bTryTestCanvas)
+//{
+// // create test-cancas-Processor
+// return new
drawinglayer::processor2d::canvasProcessor2D(rViewInformation2D,
rTargetOutDev);
+//}
+//else
+//{
// create Pixel Vcl-Processor
return new
drawinglayer::processor2d::VclPixelProcessor2D(rViewInformation2D,
rTargetOutDev);
-}
+//}
  #endif
}
}
--snip--

Thank you and I appreciate your efforts
Damjan



--
ALG

Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

[jan iversen]

Gratulation both with the graduation, but also your new "job".

Could someone please put a link to the press release on
www.openoffice.org/da with the following text:

---
Apache Software foundation annoncerede i dag at ApacheOpenOffice nu er et
Top-Level Projekt under Apache paraplyen (se pressemeddelelse #LINK here#).
Dette betyder en øget fokus ikke bare på nye funktioner, men også at
kvaliteten er ligeså høj som ved andre Apache projekter.

Dette betyder mindre ændringer i mailing lists etc. men dette vedrører mest
jer som er involveret i udviklingen.


On 18 October 2012 14:01, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> The Apache Software Foundation today announced that Apache OpenOffice has
> graduated from the Apache Incubator to become a Top-Level Project,
> signifying that the Project's community and products have been
> well-governed under the ASF's meritocratic process and principles.
>
> In the near future there will be some changes to the website and mailing
> lists, as we move out of the Incubator. Details of changes will be posted
> on our wiki at
> http://s.apache.org/**openoffice-graduation-changes
>
> But aside from these small administrative and infrastructure changes, work
> on the next release of Apache OpenOffice continues.
>
> More details in the blog post here:
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/**entry/openoffice_graduates_**
> from_the_apache
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

Re: Build fails in main/drawinglayer/source/texture/texture3d.cxx

[Armin Le Grand]

Hi Damjan,

okay, done. Revisions are 1399608 and 1399610, so use the latter please.

Sincerely,
Armin

On 18.10.2012 14:14, Armin Le Grand wrote:

 Hi Damjan,

On 18.10.2012 12:02, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Armin Le Grand
 wrote:

--snip--

--snip--

--
ALG

OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Andrea Pescetti]

We welcome translations of today's press release about the OpenOffice 
graduation. The English source can be found at


https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces35

Translations are being listed by Rob at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache

German and Italian are already available, Japanese is in progress.

For other languages, feel free to put a basic HTML file in the localized 
subdirectories of www.openoffice.org (such as www.openoffice.org/de for 
German) or, if you don't have access, send the plain text here (not as 
attachment; in a normal e-mail message) and we will upload it. If you 
are starting to translate, please send a brief note ("Reply All" to 
ooo-dev and ooo-l10n) to avoid overlapping.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Shenfeng Liu]

Congratulation to the graduation!
I'm working on the Simplified Chinese translation.

- Simon


2012/10/18 Andrea Pescetti 

> We welcome translations of today's press release about the OpenOffice
> graduation. The English source can be found at
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/**foundation/entry/the_apache_**
> software_foundation_**announces35
>
> Translations are being listed by Rob at
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/**entry/openoffice_graduates_**
> from_the_apache
>
> German and Italian are already available, Japanese is in progress.
>
> For other languages, feel free to put a basic HTML file in the localized
> subdirectories of www.openoffice.org (such as www.openoffice.org/de for
> German) or, if you don't have access, send the plain text here (not as
> attachment; in a normal e-mail message) and we will upload it. If you are
> starting to translate, please send a brief note ("Reply All" to ooo-dev and
> ooo-l10n) to avoid overlapping.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

[DEV] AOO aus dem Incubator

[Raphael Bircher]

Hallo zusammen

Wir wurden gestern vom Apache Board zum Top Level Projekt gevoted. Das
heisst AOO hat den Incubator verlassen und ist jetzt ein richtiges
Apache Projekt. Das heisst auch, dass sich die Mailinglisten bald ändern
werden von ooo-user...@incubator.apache.org zu
users...@openoffice.apache.org. Die Seite http://www.openoffice.org/de
wird bleiben. nur die Seite http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
wird zu http://openoffice.apache.org.

Das PPMC (Podling Project Management Comitee) quitiert seinen Dienst und
übergibt die Aufgaben an das PMC (Project Management Comitee). Das PMC
besteht aus 23 Leuten, darunter auch Regina und ich. Den PMC Chair hat
Andrea Pascetti übernommen.

Welcome to Apache

Gruss Raphael
-- 
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Alexandro Colorado]

Is the ASF blog down?
Havent been able to get in for a few minutes now.

On 10/18/12, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
> Congratulation to the graduation!
> I'm working on the Simplified Chinese translation.
>
> - Simon
>
>
> 2012/10/18 Andrea Pescetti 
>
>> We welcome translations of today's press release about the OpenOffice
>> graduation. The English source can be found at
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/**foundation/entry/the_apache_**
>> software_foundation_**announces35
>>
>> Translations are being listed by Rob at
>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/**entry/openoffice_graduates_**
>> from_the_apache
>>
>> German and Italian are already available, Japanese is in progress.
>>
>> For other languages, feel free to put a basic HTML file in the localized
>> subdirectories of www.openoffice.org (such as www.openoffice.org/de for
>> German) or, if you don't have access, send the plain text here (not as
>> attachment; in a normal e-mail message) and we will upload it. If you are
>> starting to translate, please send a brief note ("Reply All" to ooo-dev
>> and
>> ooo-l10n) to avoid overlapping.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
>


-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: [DEV] AOO aus dem Incubator

[Raphael Bircher]

Am 18.10.12 15:17, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Hallo zusammen
>
> Wir wurden gestern vom Apache Board zum Top Level Projekt gevoted. Das
> heisst AOO hat den Incubator verlassen und ist jetzt ein richtiges
> Apache Projekt. Das heisst auch, dass sich die Mailinglisten bald ändern
> werden von ooo-user...@incubator.apache.org zu
> users...@openoffice.apache.org. Die Seite http://www.openoffice.org/de
> wird bleiben. nur die Seite http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
> wird zu http://openoffice.apache.org.
>
> Das PPMC (Podling Project Management Comitee) quitiert seinen Dienst und
> übergibt die Aufgaben an das PMC (Project Management Comitee). Das PMC
> besteht aus 23 Leuten, darunter auch Regina und ich. Den PMC Chair hat
> Andrea Pascetti übernommen.
>
> Welcome to Apache
>
> Gruss Raphael
Sorry, it was wrong target. should be a short information for the german
List.

Greetings Raphael

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Rob Weir]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> Is the ASF blog down?
> Havent been able to get in for a few minutes now.
>

It appears to be down, yes.  So all the links on Twitter, Google+,
Facebook, and in email, to our announcement as well as the ASF
announcement are dead.

Not good.

If you recall Roller was down when we made the AOO 3.4 announcement as
well and we had to scramble to move the announcement onto the website.

-Rob


> On 10/18/12, Shenfeng Liu  wrote:
>> Congratulation to the graduation!
>> I'm working on the Simplified Chinese translation.
>>
>> - Simon
>>
>>
>> 2012/10/18 Andrea Pescetti 
>>
>>> We welcome translations of today's press release about the OpenOffice
>>> graduation. The English source can be found at
>>>
>>> https://blogs.apache.org/**foundation/entry/the_apache_**
>>> software_foundation_**announces35
>>>
>>> Translations are being listed by Rob at
>>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/**entry/openoffice_graduates_**
>>> from_the_apache
>>>
>>> German and Italian are already available, Japanese is in progress.
>>>
>>> For other languages, feel free to put a basic HTML file in the localized
>>> subdirectories of www.openoffice.org (such as www.openoffice.org/de for
>>> German) or, if you don't have access, send the plain text here (not as
>>> attachment; in a normal e-mail message) and we will upload it. If you are
>>> starting to translate, please send a brief note ("Reply All" to ooo-dev
>>> and
>>> ooo-l10n) to avoid overlapping.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>   Andrea.
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> http://es.openoffice.org

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Re: Open Office on IOS ?

[Fan Zheng]

hi Fox:

Similarly, some other guy asked several days before, that whether there is
an Android version openoffice.
Also similarly, the answer is NO, too. For "Openoffice on IOS or Android"
means not only the completely different implementation of all functions,
but also the brandly new UX design.
Of cause we Openoffice guys know the value of mobile applications, but we
just do not have the golden fingers:)
Personally, I think the cloudy Openoffice would be a better choice. For
based on it, we need not to care about the different specifications among
the popular devices.

Zhengfan
在 2012/10/18 1:15 AM，"Virgo Fox" 写道：

> *Is there a version of Open Office for iPhone or an APP ?  *
>
> *Love That Virgo Fox
> Sent from iCloud*
>
>

Re: Open Office on IOS ?

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2012-10-18 8:10 AM Fan Zhengzhou wrote:

Personally, I think the cloudy Openoffice would be a better choice. For
based on it, we need not to care about the different specifications among
the popular devices.


That would be a bad choice. Users could only use OpenOffice when they had access to the 
internet. Also many people only have slow dial-up access.


--
_

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
Edgard Varese

Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2012-10-18 9:38 AM Dave Fisher wrote:

On Oct 18, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Donald Whytock wrote:


>Will membership in the mailing lists be copied over to new lists?

Yes. (exception is private)


>  Or
>are the existing lists getting renamed?

Yes.

The old lists will forward to the new when these are created.


Will the feeds on gmane also be renamed?

--
_

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
Edgard Varese

Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

[Albino B Neto]

Hi.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> The Apache Software Foundation today announced that Apache OpenOffice has
> graduated from the Apache Incubator to become a Top-Level Project,
> signifying that the Project's community and products have been well-governed
> under the ASF's meritocratic process and principles.

Congratulations!

-- 
Albino

Re: Open Office on IOS ?

[Pedro Giffuni]

Hi;

Supporting the cloud doesn't mean you have to use it always.

BTW, this extension could receive some tender care:

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/MultiCloud


cheers,

Pedro.



>
> From: Larry Gusaas 
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:19 AM
>Subject: Re: Open Office on IOS ?
> 
>On 2012-10-18 8:10 AM Fan Zhengzhou wrote:
>> Personally, I think the cloudy Openoffice would be a better choice. For
>> based on it, we need not to care about the different specifications among
>> the popular devices.
>
>That would be a bad choice. Users could only use OpenOffice when they had 
>access to the internet. Also many people only have slow dial-up access.
>
>-- _
>
>Larry I. Gusaas
>Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
>"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." 
>- Edgard Varese
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Open Office on IOS ?

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2012-10-18 10:29 AM Pedro Fungi wrote:

Hi;

Supporting the cloud doesn't mean you have to use it always.


If OpenOffice for iOS is only a cloud version, you have to be connected to the internet in 
order to use it.





BTW, this extension could receive some tender care:

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/MultiCloud


cheers,

Pedro.





From: Larry Gusaas 
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Open Office on IOS ?

On 2012-10-18 8:10 AM Fan Zhengzhou wrote:

Personally, I think the cloudy Openoffice would be a better choice. For
based on it, we need not to care about the different specifications among
the popular devices.

That would be a bad choice. Users could only use OpenOffice when they had 
access to the internet. Also many people only have slow dial-up access.

-- _

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
Edgard Varese








--
_

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
Edgard Varese

OOoCon videos/material

[Alexandro Colorado]

Wonder what ever hapened to the OOoCon video library of the past
conferences. I am interested in knowing if any of these material
survived, same as for the presentations and programmes?

-- 
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

[Claudio Filho]

Hi

2012/10/18 Alexandro Colorado :
> I also put an update on http://www.openoffice.org/news/ since the blog
> is down, I link it to Rob's post.
> I could change it to the more complete NASDAQ post.

I think that we need do more two things in the oo.org:

* Remove the incubating logo (top right image);
* edit brand.mdtext, removing "(incubating)" from tagline;

Can you do, Alexandro?

Bests,
Claudio

Re: [DISCUSS] defining roles for management, coordination, work items...

[Kay Schenk]

On 10/17/2012 10:35 PM, Kevin Grignon wrote:

KG01 - see comments online

On Oct 18, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Kay Schenk  wrote:




On 10/16/2012 03:40 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:



On 10/16/2012 02:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote:


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:


[top posting -- old discussion/business]

I just created a little wiki schematic page based on this discussion at:


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Management+Roles

which will make it easy for us to add roles, people to roles, etc.
[The second column, intended for actual names, is blank so far.]



I'm not really sure what problem we're solving here.



Better defining activities that we do/need to do.
Hopefully soliciting/inviting individuals to take ownership of some of these
activities.



But we can have a full list of roles on the wiki, but not define a
single task...   But maybe this is the first step.


yes...and an oversight in my initial enthusiasm. Obviously, it is difficult to 
determine if any list is sufficient unless the roles are defined. :/





One way of making this scale and be more self-maintaining is something like:

1) Work with Infra to create a new issue tracking DB for the project.
Maybe use JIRA rather than BZ.  This new DB would be for tracking
tasks, not for tracking bugs.   (Why a separate DB?  So we don't drive
QA team crazy.)


KG01 - Rob, I like the idea of a new system that supports scope items in 
addition to work items. We could benefit from more PPM tooling.


Kevin--

Maybe you could raise this as an additional issue or a separate 
discussion item, and explain to the community what you mean by this. I 
don't know how many folks involved here know what "PPM tooling" is.






2) In the database we put in all the tasks that we know needs to get
done, from running a RAT scan before a release, to verifying the new
Norwegian translation, to UX exploration tasks, etc.  There are
probably 100+ tasks that we could think of, more than would be fun to
track on the wiki.


KG01 - In fact, I'm already in the midst of populating a ux opportunity backlog 
as BZ does not serve my business needs.



3) Project members can comment on issues and take ownership of them.

4) If a project member is focused deeply on a specific issue, then
they can set themselves as the default "owner" for that issue
category.

In this way, roles are defined implicitly by what tasks you claim and
what categories you set yourself as the default owner.


KG01 - agreed, less role oriented and more work item oriented.


"work items" pretty much determine role I would think except in some 
specialized cases at Apache.






The nice thing about this approach is it helps with the communication
challenges of a large project.  None of us can read everything on
every mailing list.  But we can all read the JIRA notifications that
come directly to us as an issue owner.


Well this part is certainly true. It's difficult to overlook what you signed up 
for, when you get notifications.



Another nice thing about this approach is it lets us set up a backlog
of things that are "nice to do someday" but where we have no
volunteer.  For example, spell checking the website, or updating the
Indonesian translation.  We don't even have a person in the role of an
Indonesian Translator today.  But if the tasks are defined in JIRA
then we can the unassigned tasks as a way to recruit new volunteers.
It makes it easier to see where we need help.


KG01 - backlogs also allow is to create candidate release and iteration plans



I think the JIRA/BZ approach definitely has merit in the long run.
For now, I think it would be advantageous to just flesh out the page a bit more 
to supply definitions and see what we're missing in terms of typical 
actions/roles that we take on, or should be taken on.

And, although people could indeed "enroll" for tasks right on the page, I'm not 
explicitly suggesting that as some categories, for example, developer, would have MANY 
entries. However, I do think it is valuable for site visitors to at least identify 
mailing list moderators, and maybe BZ, wiki, etc. admins.








For example, if person X is assigned role Y, I assume we don't want to
encourage people to contact person X directly for questions or
assistance.  We should do our work on ooo-dev.

I assume we also want to avoid the type of hard-coded roles that
existed with OOo, where the names, personal email addresses and even
phone numbers of community manages, press contacts, etc., were on
hundreds of web pages.



Well these are good points actually.

Yes, we should absolutely continue discussions on ooo-dev. I was thinking of
putting in names for the roles. The "roles" are not "hard" as you suggest
here. We don't hire people and they don't have "official" positions. Maybe
more of a way of providing information both to the outside and (P)PMC.




I suggest keeping this light-weight, non-exclusive

Re: [UX]: potential new default color for application background

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 12/10/2012 RGB ES wrote:

2012/10/12 Jürgen Schmidt

For example all the grey colors are not so nice and I tried a new color
for the application background. I would like to propose that we change
the default color to a new fresh one. If our users don't like and prefer
the old grey one they can easy revert it via the option dialog.
Examples:
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/aoo_new_defautl_background.png
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/test/aoo_new_defautl_background2.png

The change is a good idea, but that blue seems a bit too strong to my eyes.


I agree that the change (setting the default to non-grey, while leaving 
of course the possibility to go set the color as it is now) is a good idea.


I played a bit with the colors at 
Tools->Options->OpenOffice.org->Appearance->Application background and 
"Blue 9" seems easier on the eyes:

http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/aoo-background-blue9.png
but it is still not optimal and all other colors should probably be 
tweaked to apply a consistent palette.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Juan C. Sanz]

I'm starting Spanish translation
Regards
Juan Carlos
El 18/10/2012 14:42, Andrea Pescetti escribió:
We welcome translations of today's press release about the OpenOffice 
graduation. The English source can be found at


https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces35 



Translations are being listed by Rob at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache

German and Italian are already available, Japanese is in progress.

For other languages, feel free to put a basic HTML file in the 
localized subdirectories of www.openoffice.org (such as 
www.openoffice.org/de for German) or, if you don't have access, send 
the plain text here (not as attachment; in a normal e-mail message) 
and we will upload it. If you are starting to translate, please send a 
brief note ("Reply All" to ooo-dev and ooo-l10n) to avoid overlapping.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Claudio Filho]

Hi

2012/10/18 Andrea Pescetti :
> German and Italian are already available, Japanese is in progress.

Brazilian portuguese too[1].

[1]http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/news/aoo_gratuation.html

Bests,
Claudio

Re: [UX]: potential new default color for application background

[Joost Andrae]

Hi,


I played a bit with the colors at
Tools->Options->OpenOffice.org->Appearance->Application background and
"Blue 9" seems easier on the eyes:
http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/aoo-background-blue9.png
but it is still not optimal and all other colors should probably be
tweaked to apply a consistent palette.


+1

Kind regards, Joost

Bitmap resampling in symphony? review for i121233)

[Pedro Giffuni]

Hello;

Thanks to Tomaž Vajngerl we now have lanczos and bicubic resampling for
bitmaps.

Looking at similar code in the symphony:

symphony/trunk/main/vcl/inc/vcl/bitmap.hxx (line 54)

...
 #define BMP_SCALE_SUPER 0x0004UL
...

Which would be in (minor) conflict with the change in BZ i121233.

Perhaps someone from Symphony may want to take a look to see
if there is something that we should bring from Symphony first and
how to better adapt the new code?

best regards,

Pedro. 

Re: Apache OO General Questions

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 14/10/2012 Eike Rathke wrote:

On Saturday, 2012-10-13 18:07:24 -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

This said, the latest versions of LO introduce bugs that I can't
reproduce on AOO. AOO is very stable and we want to keep it that way.

Thanks. The latest version of AOO also still didn't fix bugs that are
fixed since long in LO and did not implement the features that LO has.

What I want to say is that we're getting nowhere with pointing fingers.


Then what I'd like to say, speaking from my personal point of view of 
course, is that we could make millions of users happier by sharing 
bugfixes (not necessarily features).


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: Apache OO General Questions

[Alexandro Colorado]

On 10/18/12, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> On 14/10/2012 Eike Rathke wrote:
>> On Saturday, 2012-10-13 18:07:24 -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>> This said, the latest versions of LO introduce bugs that I can't
>>> reproduce on AOO. AOO is very stable and we want to keep it that way.
>> Thanks. The latest version of AOO also still didn't fix bugs that are
>> fixed since long in LO and did not implement the features that LO has.
>>
>> What I want to say is that we're getting nowhere with pointing fingers.
>
> Then what I'd like to say, speaking from my personal point of view of
> course, is that we could make millions of users happier by sharing
> bugfixes (not necessarily features).

I think people will be happy if we share features as well. That said,
I think there is a point on how many resources each project has.
Looking at LibO conference, there are many things being talked about
on Writer, Base and Calc that could be implemetned or fixed.

Recently i reported a 7yr old bug on memory management, i am sure LibO
also inherit that bug and they haven't fix it mainly because of the
low level technical knowledge to devote to the performance project.

>
> Regards,
>Andrea.
>
-- 
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PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

[imacat]

Traditional Chinese translation done. ^_*'

http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/news/graduation.html

Simplified Chinese currently converted from Traditional Chinese.
Revise needed.

http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/news/graduation.html

On 2012/10/18 20:01, Andrea Pescetti said:
> The Apache Software Foundation today announced that Apache OpenOffice
> has graduated from the Apache Incubator to become a Top-Level Project,
> signifying that the Project's community and products have been
> well-governed under the ASF's meritocratic process and principles.
> 
> In the near future there will be some changes to the website and mailing
> lists, as we move out of the Incubator. Details of changes will be
> posted on our wiki at
> http://s.apache.org/openoffice-graduation-changes
> 
> But aside from these small administrative and infrastructure changes,
> work on the next release of Apache OpenOffice continues.
> 
> More details in the blog post here:
> 
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.


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Re: Apache OO General Questions

[Pedro Giffuni]

Just IMHO;

- Original Message -
> From: Alexandro Colorado 
...
>> 
>>  Then what I'd like to say, speaking from my personal point of view of
>>  course, is that we could make millions of users happier by sharing
>>  bugfixes (not necessarily features).
>

Sharing bugfixes would be indeed constructive for both projects,
it would save huge efforts related to QA, It's rather silly not to
do it
  
> I think people will be happy if we share features as well.

I think we should work together on extensions.

More than that is probably wishful thinking. :(.

Pedro.

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[imacat]

On 2012/10/18 20:42, Andrea Pescetti said:
> We welcome translations of today's press release about the OpenOffice
> graduation. The English source can be found at
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces35

Traditional Chinese translation done. ^_*'

http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/news/graduation.html

Simplified Chinese currently converted from Traditional Chinese.
Revise needed.

http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/news/graduation.html

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Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

[imacat]

Ouch, wrong reply. ^^;

And congratulations! ^_*'

On 2012/10/19 05:21, imacat said:
> Traditional Chinese translation done. ^_*'
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/zh-tw/news/graduation.html
> 
> Simplified Chinese currently converted from Traditional Chinese.
> Revise needed.
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/news/graduation.html
> 
> On 2012/10/18 20:01, Andrea Pescetti said:
>> The Apache Software Foundation today announced that Apache OpenOffice
>> has graduated from the Apache Incubator to become a Top-Level Project,
>> signifying that the Project's community and products have been
>> well-governed under the ASF's meritocratic process and principles.
>>
>> In the near future there will be some changes to the website and mailing
>> lists, as we move out of the Incubator. Details of changes will be
>> posted on our wiki at
>> http://s.apache.org/openoffice-graduation-changes
>>
>> But aside from these small administrative and infrastructure changes,
>> work on the next release of Apache OpenOffice continues.
>>
>> More details in the blog post here:
>>
>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
> 
> 

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Re: Apache OO General Questions

[jan iversen]

In my humble opinion it should be possible to have a shared code base,
shared bug fixing but separate features !!

When big companies like SAP, IBM and firmer SUN can do what, it should be
soo much easier for us, being all volunteers working with one goal, to make
quality software free of roalties being paid back to shareholders !!

I have worked a lot in these environments so comming back to earth, working
together is more often a question of people than of philosophies...so let
me put it like this:

Now we are a top level apache project, so let us (meaning the project
committee) be the ones who actively stretch out a hand and say "lets sit
down and have a pow-pow". Writing a lot of words does not reach that goal !

Please remember one thing, we are ALL on the same side fighting for a world
of royalty (share holder earnings) free software !! if you have to pick a
fight, down fight your brother in arms fight those who want your money.

have a nice night.
jan


On 18 October 2012 22:46, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> On 14/10/2012 Eike Rathke wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, 2012-10-13 18:07:24 -0700, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>>
>>> This said, the latest versions of LO introduce bugs that I can't
>>> reproduce on AOO. AOO is very stable and we want to keep it that way.
>>>
>> Thanks. The latest version of AOO also still didn't fix bugs that are
>> fixed since long in LO and did not implement the features that LO has.
>>
>> What I want to say is that we're getting nowhere with pointing fingers.
>>
>
> Then what I'd like to say, speaking from my personal point of view of
> course, is that we could make millions of users happier by sharing bugfixes
> (not necessarily features).
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

Re: OpenOffice graduates from the Apache Incubator

[Alexandro Colorado]

On 10/18/12, Claudio Filho  wrote:
> Hi
>
> 2012/10/18 Alexandro Colorado :
>> I also put an update on http://www.openoffice.org/news/ since the blog
>> is down, I link it to Rob's post.
>> I could change it to the more complete NASDAQ post.
>
> I think that we need do more two things in the oo.org:
>
> * Remove the incubating logo (top right image);
> * edit brand.mdtext, removing "(incubating)" from tagline;
>
> Can you do, Alexandro?

I edit the brand.html from /templates/

would need to look for all the brand.mdtext on the tree.

>
> Bests,
> Claudio
>


-- 
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PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Andrea Pescetti]

Shenfeng Liu wrote:

Congratulation to the graduation!
I'm working on the Simplified Chinese translation.


As you've probably seen, imacat already translated to Traditional 
Chinese and while at it provided a Simplified Chinese version at

http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/news/graduation.html

So you might want to just proofread that one.

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Juan C. Sanz]

It's finished and published: 
http://www.openoffice.org/es/noticias/graduacion.html


Regards
Juan Carlos

El 18/10/2012 21:32, Juan C. Sanz escribió:

I'm starting Spanish translation
Regards
Juan Carlos
El 18/10/2012 14:42, Andrea Pescetti escribió:
We welcome translations of today's press release about the OpenOffice 
graduation. The English source can be found at


https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces35 



Translations are being listed by Rob at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache

German and Italian are already available, Japanese is in progress.

For other languages, feel free to put a basic HTML file in the 
localized subdirectories of www.openoffice.org (such as 
www.openoffice.org/de for German) or, if you don't have access, send 
the plain text here (not as attachment; in a normal e-mail message) 
and we will upload it. If you are starting to translate, please send 
a brief note ("Reply All" to ooo-dev and ooo-l10n) to avoid overlapping.


Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [UX]: potential new default color for application background

[Kay Schenk]

On 10/12/2012 05:29 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 09:23:28AM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

That said, AOO look really horrible in dark themes, but that's another
issue :)


http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/startcenterhc.png
ugly, at least on Linux


this  would be a definite NO for me!

as for Juergen's original post with colors -- either one would work for 
me, and maybe becasue of my color configuration, they don't look much 
different. :/





Regards



--

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"Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never
 dealt with a cat."
   -- Robert Heinlein

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Peter Junge]

I have all the video materials (including raw) of the OOoCon 2008 in 
Beijing, unfortunately not the presentations because I naively thought 
they were save having copies at Sun servers and OOoDev (OpenOffice.org 
Deutschland e.V.). Furthermore, I have all presentations of the OOoCon 
2010 in Budapest.


I expect it would make sense to reach out for the following 
persons/entities:
- Andrew Rist, I guess there should still be materials in the backups of 
the old OOo servers. The complicated part might be finding and 
extracting the materials.
- Florian of TDF/FrODev, he was one of the admins of the OOoDev servers. 
There might also be some materials there. I'm at least expecting that 
the videos of OOoCon 2010 exist in some backups.

- Team OpenOffice.org

I volunteer to contact Florian and Team OOo over the weekend, as to 
Andrew I expect he might read this.


Peter

On 10/19/2012 2:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Wonder what ever hapened to the OOoCon video library of the past
conferences. I am interested in knowing if any of these material
survived, same as for the presentations and programmes?

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Andrew Rist]

On 10/18/2012 4:31 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
I have all the video materials (including raw) of the OOoCon 2008 in 
Beijing, unfortunately not the presentations because I naively thought 
they were save having copies at Sun servers and OOoDev (OpenOffice.org 
Deutschland e.V.). Furthermore, I have all presentations of the OOoCon 
2010 in Budapest.


I expect it would make sense to reach out for the following 
persons/entities:
- Andrew Rist, I guess there should still be materials in the backups 
of the old OOo servers. The complicated part might be finding and 
extracting the materials.

A quick look didn't turn anything up.  Who hosted the OOoCon servers?
A
- Florian of TDF/FrODev, he was one of the admins of the OOoDev 
servers. There might also be some materials there. I'm at least 
expecting that the videos of OOoCon 2010 exist in some backups.

- Team OpenOffice.org

I volunteer to contact Florian and Team OOo over the weekend, as to 
Andrew I expect he might read this.

;-)


Peter

On 10/19/2012 2:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Wonder what ever hapened to the OOoCon video library of the past
conferences. I am interested in knowing if any of these material
survived, same as for the presentations and programmes?

Re: [UX]: potential new default color for application background

[Kevin Grignon]

KG01 - see comments inline. 

On Oct 19, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 10/12/2012 05:29 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 09:23:28AM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>> That said, AOO look really horrible in dark themes, but that's another
>>> issue :)
>> 
>> http://people.apache.org/~arielch/images/startcenterhc.png
>> ugly, at least on Linux
> 
> this  would be a definite NO for me!
> 
> as for Juergen's original post with colors -- either one would work for me, 
> and maybe becasue of my color configuration, they don't look much different. 
> :/

Kg01 - ideally, colours in the UI, outside the OS defaults should all draw from 
a common palette. Candidates include: app icons, toolbar icons, thumbnails, 
wizard graphics, custom colour like page background. 

In this case, a default background colour change is fine, but only if the 
colour value is harmonious with workspace. A goal is to make the page canvas 
more predominant so the user can focus in the work. Selecting the wrong colour 
would only distract and stand out as odd. Our brains interpret colour like 
sound, knowing when a colour does not belong. The wrong colour is like playing 
some notes in a song out of key. 

Let's explore any UI changes holistically. 

Let get some design explorations into the UX opportunity  backlog. 

> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> MzK
> 
> "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never
> dealt with a cat."
>   -- Robert Heinlein

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Peter Junge]

On 10/19/2012 7:42 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:


On 10/18/2012 4:31 PM, Peter Junge wrote:

I have all the video materials (including raw) of the OOoCon 2008 in
Beijing, unfortunately not the presentations because I naively thought
they were save having copies at Sun servers and OOoDev (OpenOffice.org
Deutschland e.V.). Furthermore, I have all presentations of the OOoCon
2010 in Budapest.

I expect it would make sense to reach out for the following
persons/entities:
- Andrew Rist, I guess there should still be materials in the backups
of the old OOo servers. The complicated part might be finding and
extracting the materials.

A quick look didn't turn anything up.  Who hosted the OOoCon servers?


AFAIR:
--
- OOoCon 2009 (Orvieto/Italy) and OOoCon 2010 (Budapest) were hosted at 
http://www.ooocon.org. To my knowledge that site was running on a VM at 
one of Sun's data centers. I recall there was an incompatible update of 
the site between both conference, so the materials might be distributed 
over different database dumps.


- OOoCon 2008 (Beijing) was AFAIR hosted at 
http://conference.services.openoffice.org (or something similar) at 
servers of CollabNet, I assume. Except the videos that we hosted at 
OOoDev because of their size. Those videos I have.


- OOoCon 2007 (Barcelona) and I think also the previous events were also 
hosted at http://conference.services.openoffice.org (or something 
similar). The videos of the OOoCon 2007 were shot and hosted by a video 
team (cannot remember the name) from Slovenia that also did the same job 
at OOoCon 2005 (Koper).


- I don't know much about OOoCon 2006 (Lyon), 2004 (Berlin) and 2003 
(Hamburg), but I think I have seen OOoCon presentation files in a 
check-out of the repository of http://marketing.openoffice.org while I 
was working on the OOo marketing project quite a while ago.


Peter



A

- Florian of TDF/FrODev, he was one of the admins of the OOoDev
servers. There might also be some materials there. I'm at least
expecting that the videos of OOoCon 2010 exist in some backups.
- Team OpenOffice.org

I volunteer to contact Florian and Team OOo over the weekend, as to
Andrew I expect he might read this.

;-)


Peter

On 10/19/2012 2:20 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

Wonder what ever hapened to the OOoCon video library of the past
conferences. I am interested in knowing if any of these material
survived, same as for the presentations and programmes?

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Rob Weir]

Thanks.  I added to the blog post.

-Rob

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Juan C. Sanz  wrote:
> It's finished and published:
> http://www.openoffice.org/es/noticias/graduacion.html
>
> Regards
> Juan Carlos
>
> El 18/10/2012 21:32, Juan C. Sanz escribió:
>
>> I'm starting Spanish translation
>> Regards
>> Juan Carlos
>> El 18/10/2012 14:42, Andrea Pescetti escribió:
>>>
>>> We welcome translations of today's press release about the OpenOffice
>>> graduation. The English source can be found at
>>>
>>>
>>> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_software_foundation_announces35
>>>
>>> Translations are being listed by Rob at
>>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_graduates_from_the_apache
>>>
>>> German and Italian are already available, Japanese is in progress.
>>>
>>> For other languages, feel free to put a basic HTML file in the localized
>>> subdirectories of www.openoffice.org (such as www.openoffice.org/de for
>>> German) or, if you don't have access, send the plain text here (not as
>>> attachment; in a normal e-mail message) and we will upload it. If you are
>>> starting to translate, please send a brief note ("Reply All" to ooo-dev and
>>> ooo-l10n) to avoid overlapping.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>   Andrea.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Shenfeng Liu]

Thanks imacat for the first version! I just updated it with some rewording.
One thing I need help is: how to update the banner? I also want to reword
the banner, but didn't find where to go...
Thanks!

- Simon


2012/10/19 Andrea Pescetti 

> Shenfeng Liu wrote:
>
>> Congratulation to the graduation!
>> I'm working on the Simplified Chinese translation.
>>
>
> As you've probably seen, imacat already translated to Traditional Chinese
> and while at it provided a Simplified Chinese version at
> http://www.openoffice.org/zh-**cn/news/graduation.html
>
> So you might want to just proofread that one.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

Re: Open Office on IOS ?

[Fan Zheng]

Well, still personally, without high speed network I would prefer reading
physical books, for I can hardly start my work, whatever the cloudy stuffs
are being used or not.

Being connected all the time, is the way that part of people are living in.
Cloudy stuff serves the people who connected, as the computer stuff serves
the people who plugged.

Oh, Yes, we are talking about the mobility of Openoffice…But I guess there
will be a big intersection between the group of guys who want to use
Openoffice on the mobile devices and the group of guys who are always
connected.


For the people who want to use the Openoffice on the mobile devices but not
be connected?…Yes we need an APP at the time. But as the people can get the
APP from the APP store, I guess they just met the broken network
occasionally.

So, what about enjoying a book in the moment? :D
 在 2012/10/19 12:20 AM，"Larry Gusaas" 写道：

> On 2012-10-18 8:10 AM Fan Zhengzhou wrote:
>
>> Personally, I think the cloudy Openoffice would be a better choice. For
>> based on it, we need not to care about the different specifications among
>> the popular devices.
>>
>
> That would be a bad choice. Users could only use OpenOffice when they had
> access to the internet. Also many people only have slow dial-up access.
>
> --
> __**___
>
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> theirs." - Edgard Varese
>
>
>

Re: Bitmap resampling in symphony? review for i121233)

[Clarence GUO]

HI~ Pedro,
The Symphony's code was there quite a long time ago.
We need some time to pick up the background knowledge of the code. Then we
will give you further information.

Thanks & BRs
Clarence

2012/10/19 Pedro Giffuni 

> Hello;
>
> Thanks to Tomaž Vajngerl we now have lanczos and bicubic resampling for
> bitmaps.
>
> Looking at similar code in the symphony:
>
> symphony/trunk/main/vcl/inc/vcl/bitmap.hxx (line 54)
>
> ...
>  #define BMP_SCALE_SUPER 0x0004UL
> ...
>
> Which would be in (minor) conflict with the change in BZ i121233.
>
> Perhaps someone from Symphony may want to take a look to see
> if there is something that we should bring from Symphony first and
> how to better adapt the new code?
>
> best regards,
>
> Pedro.
>

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Juan C. Sanz wrote:

> It's finished and published: http://www.openoffice.org/es/**
> noticias/graduacion.html
>
> Regards
> Juan Carlos
>

Juan Carlos,

Thanks, just starting to read it. But I think the right translation is "se
gradua DE" instead of "se gradua EN". (graduates FROM the apache incubator
and not "graduates IN the incubator"). It´s right at the top, the
headline...

Will keep reading...

Saludos,
FC

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Fernando Cassia]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Juan C. Sanz wrote:

> It's finished and published: http://www.openoffice.org/es/**
> noticias/graduacion.html
>
> Regards
> Juan Carlos
>

I also don´t think I like "suit" ... I´d prefer "suite de aplicaciones de
oficina".
As used elsewhere http://goo.gl/SFA8B

Just my $0.02. I hope you don´t mind my suggestions... aka constructive
criticism...

FC
-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
Revolucionario
- George Orwell

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Christoph Jopp]

...
> The videos of the OOoCon 2007 were shot and hosted by a video
> team (cannot remember the name) from Slovenia that also did the same job
> at OOoCon 2005 (Koper).
> 
...

As far as I can remember their name was kiberpipa
(https://www.kiberpipa.org/sl/)

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[imacat]

On 2012/10/19 10:03, Shenfeng Liu said:
> Thanks imacat for the first version! I just updated it with some rewording.
> One thing I need help is: how to update the banner? I also want to reword
> the banner, but didn't find where to go...
> Thanks!

Sorry, I did not notice you have started working. ^^;

By the way, a typo: "克服", not "客服". :p

> 
> - Simon
> 
> 
> 2012/10/19 Andrea Pescetti 
> 
>> Shenfeng Liu wrote:
>>
>>> Congratulation to the graduation!
>>> I'm working on the Simplified Chinese translation.
>>>
>>
>> As you've probably seen, imacat already translated to Traditional Chinese
>> and while at it provided a Simplified Chinese version at
>> http://www.openoffice.org/zh-**cn/news/graduation.html
>>
>> So you might want to just proofread that one.
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
> 


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Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Alexandro Colorado]

On 10/18/12, Christoph Jopp  wrote:
>
> ...
>> The videos of the OOoCon 2007 were shot and hosted by a video
>> team (cannot remember the name) from Slovenia that also did the same job
>> at OOoCon 2005 (Koper).

Barcelona Kiberpipa had really bad problems with the Audio of the
conference and they didnt release the videos.

Koper  in 06 the videos were in better shape, and they host it. AFAIR


>>
> ...
>
> As far as I can remember their name was kiberpipa
> (https://www.kiberpipa.org/sl/)
>
>


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http://es.openoffice.org

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Peter Junge]

On 10/19/2012 12:52 PM, Christoph Jopp wrote:


...

The videos of the OOoCon 2007 were shot and hosted by a video
team (cannot remember the name) from Slovenia that also did the same job
at OOoCon 2005 (Koper).


...

As far as I can remember their name was kiberpipa
(https://www.kiberpipa.org/sl/)


Indeed, thanks.

Peter

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Alexandro Colorado]

On 10/18/12, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> On 10/18/12, Christoph Jopp  wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>> The videos of the OOoCon 2007 were shot and hosted by a video
>>> team (cannot remember the name) from Slovenia that also did the same job
>>> at OOoCon 2005 (Koper).
>
> Barcelona Kiberpipa had really bad problems with the Audio of the
> conference and they didnt release the videos.
>
> Koper  in 06 the videos were in better shape, and they host it. AFAIR
>
>
>>>
>> ...
>>
>> As far as I can remember their name was kiberpipa
>> (https://www.kiberpipa.org/sl/)
>>

Found them: :)
http://ooocon.kiberpipa.org/media/index-2007.html

>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> PPMC Apache OpenOffice
> http://es.openoffice.org
>


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Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
>
> Just my $0.02. I hope you don´t mind my suggestions... aka constructive 
> criticism...


Ok, here is my revised Spanish translation, based on Juan´s good work.

http://pastehtml.com/view/cffe1ufza.rtxt
(click and read on-line to see formatted html)

The changes I´ve made are underlined. Of course, if you think this
improves on the readability of the text, you need to first remove the
underlined words... (I just did it to easily signal what I changed).

FC
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Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un
Acto Revolucionario
- George Orwell

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Peter Junge]

On 10/19/2012 1:01 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

On 10/18/12, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

On 10/18/12, Christoph Jopp  wrote:


...

The videos of the OOoCon 2007 were shot and hosted by a video
team (cannot remember the name) from Slovenia that also did the same job
at OOoCon 2005 (Koper).


Barcelona Kiberpipa had really bad problems with the Audio of the
conference and they didnt release the videos.

Koper  in 06 the videos were in better shape, and they host it. AFAIR





...

As far as I can remember their name was kiberpipa
(https://www.kiberpipa.org/sl/)



Found them: :)
http://ooocon.kiberpipa.org/media/index-2007.html


Super-cool and many more than I remember. :-)






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PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> you need to first remove the
> underlined words... (I just did it to easily signal what I changed).

Sorry, I mean "remove the underlined formatting from the changed words".

FC

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Peter Junge]

On 10/19/2012 1:05 PM, Peter Junge wrote:

On 10/19/2012 1:01 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

On 10/18/12, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

On 10/18/12, Christoph Jopp  wrote:


...

The videos of the OOoCon 2007 were shot and hosted by a video
team (cannot remember the name) from Slovenia that also did the
same job
at OOoCon 2005 (Koper).


Barcelona Kiberpipa had really bad problems with the Audio of the
conference and they didnt release the videos.

Koper  in 06 the videos were in better shape, and they host it. AFAIR





...

As far as I can remember their name was kiberpipa
(https://www.kiberpipa.org/sl/)



Found them: :)
http://ooocon.kiberpipa.org/media/index-2007.html


Super-cool and many more than I remember. :-)


... even better, simply editing the URL brings also back videos from 
2005 and 2006 (including 2007), see: 
http://ooocon.kiberpipa.org/media/index.html

Seems to be about 150 videos in total.

Will try to get the 2008 videos online soon.

Peter








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Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Pedro Giffuni]

Hi Fernando;

Both changes you propose are correct. Unfortunately there are also some other 
terms (escalada, germen) that just dont fit well and some even that I hadnt 
heard before (director de liberaciones).

Its not Juan Carlos' fault though ... some terms can be OK on some countries 
and sound horrible in others and being neutral is not easy.

Pedro.

--- Gio 18/10/12, Fernando Cassia  ha scritto:

> Da: Fernando Cassia 
> Oggetto: Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release
> A: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Data: Giovedì 18 ottobre 2012, 23:41
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Juan
> C. Sanz wrote:
> 
> > It's finished and published: http://www.openoffice.org/es/**
> > noticias/graduacion.html
> >
> > Regards
> > Juan Carlos
> >
> 
> I also don´t think I like "suit" ... I´d prefer "suite de
> aplicaciones de
> oficina".
> As used elsewhere http://goo.gl/SFA8B
> 
> Just my $0.02. I hope you don´t mind my suggestions... aka
> constructive
> criticism...
> 
> FC
> -- 
> During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes
> a revolutionary
> act
> Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se
> convierte en un Acto
> Revolucionario
> - George Orwell
>

Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Pavel Janík]

On Oct 18, 2012, at 8:20 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:

> Wonder what ever hapened to the OOoCon video library of the past
> conferences. I am interested in knowing if any of these material
> survived, same as for the presentations and programmes?

We in CZ have this stuff:

http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/openoffice.org-cs/OOoCon2004/
http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/openoffice.org-cs/OOoCon2006/
http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/openoffice.org-cs/OOoCon2008/
http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/openoffice.org-cs/ooocon-arnes.kiberpipa.org/


-- 
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Re: OpenOffice graduation: translations of press release

[Shenfeng Liu]

Thanks for your review, imacat!
I'm correcting the typo... the CMS response is quite slow now... :(

In fact I merged the translation from both of our work. :)

- Simon


2012/10/19 imacat 

> On 2012/10/19 10:03, Shenfeng Liu said:
> > Thanks imacat for the first version! I just updated it with some
> rewording.
> > One thing I need help is: how to update the banner? I also want to reword
> > the banner, but didn't find where to go...
> > Thanks!
>
> Sorry, I did not notice you have started working. ^^;
>
> By the way, a typo: "克服", not "客服". :p
>
> >
> > - Simon
> >
> >
> > 2012/10/19 Andrea Pescetti 
> >
> >> Shenfeng Liu wrote:
> >>
> >>> Congratulation to the graduation!
> >>> I'm working on the Simplified Chinese translation.
> >>>
> >>
> >> As you've probably seen, imacat already translated to Traditional
> Chinese
> >> and while at it provided a Simplified Chinese version at
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/zh-**cn/news/graduation.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/zh-cn/news/graduation.html>
> >>
> >> So you might want to just proofread that one.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>   Andrea.
> >>
> >
>
>
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Re: OOoCon videos/material

[Fernando Cassia]

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> Found them: :)
> http://ooocon.kiberpipa.org/media/index-2007.html

Excelent resource, thanks.

The site is very fast. I´m saturating my FTTH just downloading 3 videos.

A good candidate to "wget -m -np -k -c http://ooocon.kiberpipa.org/media/";
;)

FC