Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-14 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2012/5/14 Jingbai jingbaibe...@gmail.com

 Hi Paulo:


Hi!


 Guess you have already Joined the ODFAuthor Mailing list.


I'm not sure. I feel like an extreme rookie here =) Can you tell me where
can I subscribe?


 I think the articles on MediaWiki are very helpful. Here is an example:
 to demonstrate the needed features to write formulas and insert graphics.
 insert graphics.

 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_CHISQDIST_function
 We also would like to contribute some articles like hints and tips for AOO
 on the mediawiki.


Indeed. I've been using those Mediawiki features a lot.



 Hope this can help.
 Betsy Bai


Thanks


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Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-14 Thread tj

On 5/14/2012 08:40, Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:

2012/5/14 Jingbaijingbaibe...@gmail.com


Hi Paulo:



Hi!



Guess you have already Joined the ODFAuthor Mailing list.



I'm not sure. I feel like an extreme rookie here =) Can you tell me where
can I subscribe?


Start here: http://www.odfauthors.org/openoffice.org/english
and navigate as you please (other languages, LO, ...).
HTH
/tj/




I think the articles on MediaWiki are very helpful. Here is an example:
to demonstrate the needed features to write formulas and insert graphics.
insert graphics.

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_CHISQDIST_function
We also would like to contribute some articles like hints and tips for AOO
on the mediawiki.



Indeed. I've been using those Mediawiki features a lot.




Hope this can help.
Betsy Bai



Thanks







Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni

Hello Raul;

On 05/13/12 11:17, Raul Pacheco da Silva wrote:

Good morning, I am a simple end user and fan of this software and am not
very good thing in these licenses, and would assist the project with the
translation of manuals as I did with the LO, manuals found on this page of
the wiki:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODT

I saw that these manuals are under the GNU


ThisDocument is excellant Copyright © 2005-2010 by the contributors listed
below. You may distributeit and / or modify it under the terms of the GNU
General PublicLicense Either (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version
3 or later, or the Creative Commons Attribution License (http:// /
creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0 /), version 3.0 or later.

Within this guide Alltrademarks Belong To Their legitimate owners. 

and footer

You can download
an editable version of this document from
http://oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/published/ 


Indeed. Those files don't belong to the project and we can't
relicense them.

To make a long story short, we had to backup the old SUN/Oracle
server and move it into Apache but we haven't cleaned out the
content yet.

I think we will need volunteers for a new documentation project,
or at least to clean up the old content.

Pedro.



Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Raul Pacheco da Silva
Hello Pedro,

Thanks for your reply, I am a volunteer in Brazil for the translation of
manuals for Portuguese language (Brazil), I believe in the same way these
manuals (esttilos and formatting with some variations) and even for
creating these.
2012/5/13 Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org

 Hello Raul;


 On 05/13/12 11:17, Raul Pacheco da Silva wrote:

 Good morning, I am a simple end user and fan of this software and am not
 very good thing in these licenses, and would assist the project with the
 translation of manuals as I did with the LO, manuals found on this page of
 the wiki:

 http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/**Documentation/OOo3_User_**
 Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODThttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODT

 I saw that these manuals are under the GNU

 
 ThisDocument is excellant Copyright © 2005-2010 by the contributors listed
 below. You may distributeit and / or modify it under the terms of the GNU
 General PublicLicense Either 
 (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/**gpl.htmlhttp://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html),
 version
 3 or later, or the Creative Commons Attribution License (http:// /
 creativecommons.org/licenses/**by/3.0http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/),
  version 3.0 or later.

 Within this guide Alltrademarks Belong To Their legitimate owners. 

 and footer

 You can download
 an editable version of this document from
 http://oooauthors.org/english/**userguide3/published/http://oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/published/


 Indeed. Those files don't belong to the project and we can't
 relicense them.

 To make a long story short, we had to backup the old SUN/Oracle
 server and move it into Apache but we haven't cleaned out the
 content yet.

 I think we will need volunteers for a new documentation project,
 or at least to clean up the old content.

 Pedro.




-- 
Raul Pacheco da Silva

Fone (11) 8536-6340
Skipe: raulpachecodasilva
Messenger: rp...@hotmail.com
Suzano - SP


Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2012/5/13 Raul Pacheco da Silva raulpachecodasi...@gmail.com

 Hello Pedro,

 Thanks for your reply, I am a volunteer in Brazil for the translation of
 manuals for Portuguese language (Brazil), I believe in the same way these
 manuals (esttilos and formatting with some variations) and even for
 creating these.
 2012/5/13 Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org


Hi. I think I can help on this issue too.

Rgds.\
--

Raul Pacheco da Silva

 Fone (11) 8536-6340
 Skipe: raulpachecodasilva
 Messenger: rp...@hotmail.com
 Suzano - SP




-- 
Paulo de Souza Lima
Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
http://www.pasl.net.br
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729

Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher


Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
(sorry for top posting)
Well, theres a lot to do ...

In the past we spend some time discussing if we should
keep using MW or move everything to CWiki. It seems like
infra@ is OK with having both but perhaps we should define
better how each will be used.

I guess you guys could start be removing all the outdated
information.

Next we need an inventory of the valuable information and
some migration plan to make clear how new information is
under ALv2.

Pedro.


--- Dom 13/5/12, Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org ha scritto:
...
  Hello Pedro,
 
  Thanks for your reply, I am a volunteer in Brazil for
 the translation of
  manuals for Portuguese language (Brazil), I believe in
 the same way these
  manuals (esttilos and formatting with some variations)
 and even for
  creating these.
  2012/5/13 Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org
 
 
 Hi. I think I can help on this issue too.
 
 Rgds.\
 --
 
 Raul Pacheco da Silva
 
  Fone (11) 8536-6340
  Skipe: raulpachecodasilva
  Messenger: rp...@hotmail.com
  Suzano - SP
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Paulo de Souza Lima
 Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
 http://www.pasl.net.br
 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
 Linux User #432358
 Ubuntu User #28729
 
 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a
 paz espiritual e
 a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a
 batalha interna das
 virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo
 Acropolitano
 
 For people to achieve peace in their relationships,
 spiritual peace and
 the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the
 internal battle
 between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan
 Philosopher



Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Raul Pacheco da Silva wrote:

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODT
I saw that these manuals are under the GNU ...
are showing that these documents OOOautohrs
We can make some indication in this direction and use the license at the end of
the Apache Incubator


I don't completely understand what you mean (and of course I am not a 
lawyer), but if you mean that you translated the OOoAuthors 
documentation and you would like to relicense your translation under the 
Apache license, this is not possible nor necessary:


- not possible because translation counts as derived work, so it 
inherits the GPL[+CC-BY] license and you can't change it unless the 
English version changes its license too.


- not necessary because these guides have never been included in a 
release of OpenOffice and are not officially part of the project, and 
these would be the cases where license incompatibility matters. So if 
you wish to update/translate them, nothing changed due to the OpenOffice 
codebase license change.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:

Our doubt is: The manuals will be kept under GNU License or should we wait
for further discussions in order to define this issue?


The books listed at your link,
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODT
will not be relicensed. On the other hand, they were never the 
official documentation of OpenOffice or other suites, so the situation 
is exactly the same as it used to be. Draft of those book for Apache 
OpenOffice 3.4 were announced on this list:

http://www.odfauthors.org/apache-openoffice/english/user-guides/getting-started-3.4/drafts

Then this project might want to produce official documentation 
different from the OOoAuthors books and suitable for inclusion in the 
release, but this is a totally different story.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Ok. I understand now. Anyway, I am available to contribute producing some
documentation. Is there anyone driving these efforts already?

Thanks.

2012/5/13 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org

 Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:

 Our doubt is: The manuals will be kept under GNU License or should we wait
 for further discussions in order to define this issue?


 The books listed at your link,
 http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/**Documentation/OOo3_User_**
 Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODThttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODT
 will not be relicensed. On the other hand, they were never the official
 documentation of OpenOffice or other suites, so the situation is exactly
 the same as it used to be. Draft of those book for Apache OpenOffice 3.4
 were announced on this list:
 http://www.odfauthors.org/**apache-openoffice/english/**
 user-guides/getting-started-3.**4/draftshttp://www.odfauthors.org/apache-openoffice/english/user-guides/getting-started-3.4/drafts

 Then this project might want to produce official documentation different
 from the OOoAuthors books and suitable for inclusion in the release, but
 this is a totally different story.

 Regards,
  Andrea.




-- 
Paulo de Souza Lima
Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
http://www.pasl.net.br
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729

Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher


Re: manuals on OpenOffice

2012-05-13 Thread Jingbai
Hi Paulo:
Guess you have already Joined the ODFAuthor Mailing list. 
I think the articles on MediaWiki are very helpful. Here is an example:
to demonstrate the needed features to write formulas and insert graphics.
insert graphics.
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Calc:_CHISQDIST_function
We also would like to contribute some articles like hints and tips for AOO on 
the mediawiki.

Hope this can help.
Betsy Bai

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-5-14, at 上午8:14, Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org wrote:

 Ok. I understand now. Anyway, I am available to contribute producing some
 documentation. Is there anyone driving these efforts already?
 
 Thanks.
 
 2012/5/13 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
 
 Paulo de Souza Lima wrote:
 
 Our doubt is: The manuals will be kept under GNU License or should we wait
 for further discussions in order to define this issue?
 
 
 The books listed at your link,
 http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/**Documentation/OOo3_User_**
 Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODThttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/OOo3.3_Chapters_ODT
 will not be relicensed. On the other hand, they were never the official
 documentation of OpenOffice or other suites, so the situation is exactly
 the same as it used to be. Draft of those book for Apache OpenOffice 3.4
 were announced on this list:
 http://www.odfauthors.org/**apache-openoffice/english/**
 user-guides/getting-started-3.**4/draftshttp://www.odfauthors.org/apache-openoffice/english/user-guides/getting-started-3.4/drafts
 
 Then this project might want to produce official documentation different
 from the OOoAuthors books and suitable for inclusion in the release, but
 this is a totally different story.
 
 Regards,
 Andrea.
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Paulo de Souza Lima
 Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
 http://www.pasl.net.br
 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
 Linux User #432358
 Ubuntu User #28729
 
 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
 a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
 virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano
 
 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
 the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
 between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher