Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Having worked in the project for a couple of weeks now, I'm quite confident that we have the right people in the right places. Don't get me wrong: I mean that ... The most active people in the community, including you, should be listed as well in OpenSC GIThub project page. Kind regards, -- Jean-Michel Pouré - Gooze - http://www.gooze.eu smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Hello Andreas, On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.dewrote: So, have you agreed on something? I read different opinions, offers, comments, but nothing that points out coming to some consent. What is your preference? Since I'm not really active, I don't want to decide this. I checked googlegroups and code.google.com, worst case I can figure out how to copy/move things there. I will look into code.google.com, but beside this, one of the solution could be to : - move the sources of the projects to github; - use my CI service for nightly builds; - install on the same platform file server for release tarbals, RPMs, MSIs, etc; - move onto the same platform wiki, trac and mailing lists. If there will not be other suggestions, and if the study of the googlegroups or similar will not bring other solution, we could start the migration. Regards, Andreas Kind regards, Viktor. ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Jean-Michel Pouré - GOOZE jmpo...@gooze.eu wrote: Dear all, wouldn't it be better to move the remaining parts of the project to github ? Sorry if I did not catch this message before. I volunteer to take part in this project with the community. Migrating the platform would allow to clarify the community goals and participants. As written previously: * Community We need to extend the list of core hackers, to define the community and avoid that one person blocks or takes control of the hosting environment. * Cheap hosting Host a minimal web server with OpenSC page. I suggest a cheap http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/ * GIThub Migrate to GIThub the code repositories. Code issues and pull requests are enough to manage bugs and evolutions, provided that there is a clearly defined community in charge of GIThub main projects. * Build-farm Have separate builds farms coordinated by Jenkins. This is already the case of our build farm (Viktor and I). And we proved to run the farm 24x365. We run the farm on real computers. We can also provide backup. We recently bought a 12-core supermicro computer, to add to the build farm. We have received the motherboard, casing and processors and we still need the memory (around 96 Gb). This is meant to be a virtual server replacing my various computers in the build farm. It is also nice to have build farms running behind firewalls with very limited access to Internet using vlans. I suggest that we start with the political issues first, to design an informal community. Then we can host OpenSC safely on GIThub and start the migration. Kind regards, Jean-Michel POURE -- I think github provides a good service. Alon. ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Le mardi 02 octobre 2012 à 23:13 +0200, Andreas Jellinghaus a écrit : So, have you agreed on something? I read different opinions, offers, comments, but nothing that points out coming to some consent. What is your preference? Since I'm not really active, I don't want to decide this. Please, Github is already hosting OpenSC. Although we like Google, migrating to Google would be an additional difficulty. I am proposing to host the current architecture on a dedicated host in OVH, France. OVH is the largest hosting company in Europe and has fast links. My point is that: * Wiki + ticket tracking system = OVH * GIT = Github I also register to be the webmaster. So the community can have someone in charge to talk to. I don't want to act alone and will do what the community asks me to do. Kind regards, Jean-Michel Pouré -- GOOZE - http://www.gooze.eu High quality cryptographic tools for GNU/Linux, Mac OS X and Windows including the FEITIAN PKI card POURE SASU - 17 rue Saint Jacques - 95160 Montmorency - France Tel : +33 (0)9 72 13 53 90 - Mobile : +33 (0)6 51 99 37 90 Registry: FR 527 672 448 00018 - VAT: FR54527672448 ID PGP/GPG: 084F2584 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Beside this, one of the solution could be to : - move the sources of the projects to github; - use my CI service for nightly builds; - install on the same platform file server for release tarbals, RPMs, MSIs, etc; - move onto the same platform wiki, trac and mailing lists. Looks like the perfect solution. What hosting company are you using, I think this is OVH. What is your dedicated hosting plan? Kind regards, -- Jean-Michel Pouré - Gooze - http://www.gooze.eu smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Hi, did anyone try the issue tracking and wiki functions on github ? Seems that it provides the same functionality as trac. Migrating the data might be a pain, but also gives the opportunity to clean things up. I would prefer a solution where everything is nicely integrated. Other than that, I agree with Viktor to use the existing CI service and move the other parts there. Andreas Am 03.10.2012 09:43, schrieb Viktor Tarasov: Hello Andreas, On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de mailto:andr...@ionisiert.de wrote: So, have you agreed on something? I read different opinions, offers, comments, but nothing that points out coming to some consent. What is your preference? Since I'm not really active, I don't want to decide this. I checked googlegroups and code.google.com http://code.google.com, worst case I can figure out how to copy/move things there. I will look into code.google.com http://code.google.com, but beside this, one of the solution could be to : - move the sources of the projects to github; - use my CI service for nightly builds; - install on the same platform file server for release tarbals, RPMs, MSIs, etc; - move onto the same platform wiki, trac and mailing lists. If there will not be other suggestions, and if the study of the googlegroups or similar will not bring other solution, we could start the migration. Regards, Andreas Kind regards, Viktor. ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org mailto:opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel -- -CardContact Software System Consulting |.## ##.| Andreas Schwier |# #| Schülerweg 38 |# #| 32429 Minden, Germany |'## ##'| Phone +49 571 56149 -http://www.cardcontact.de http://www.tscons.de http://www.openscdp.org ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
So, have you agreed on something? I read different opinions, offers, comments, but nothing that points out coming to some consent. What is your preference? Since I'm not really active, I don't want to decide this. I checked googlegroups and code.google.com, worst case I can figure out how to copy/move things there. Regards, Andreas ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Dear all, wouldn't it be better to move the remaining parts of the project to github ? Sorry if I did not catch this message before. I volunteer to take part in this project with the community. Migrating the platform would allow to clarify the community goals and participants. As written previously: * Community We need to extend the list of core hackers, to define the community and avoid that one person blocks or takes control of the hosting environment. * Cheap hosting Host a minimal web server with OpenSC page. I suggest a cheap http://www.kimsufi.com/fr/ * GIThub Migrate to GIThub the code repositories. Code issues and pull requests are enough to manage bugs and evolutions, provided that there is a clearly defined community in charge of GIThub main projects. * Build-farm Have separate builds farms coordinated by Jenkins. This is already the case of our build farm (Viktor and I). And we proved to run the farm 24x365. We run the farm on real computers. We can also provide backup. We recently bought a 12-core supermicro computer, to add to the build farm. We have received the motherboard, casing and processors and we still need the memory (around 96 Gb). This is meant to be a virtual server replacing my various computers in the build farm. It is also nice to have build farms running behind firewalls with very limited access to Internet using vlans. I suggest that we start with the political issues first, to design an informal community. Then we can host OpenSC safely on GIThub and start the migration. Kind regards, Jean-Michel POURE -- GOOZE - http://www.gooze.eu High quality cryptographic tools for GNU/Linux, Mac OS X and Windows including the FEITIAN PKI card POURE SASU - 17 rue Saint Jacques - 95160 Montmorency - France Tel : +33 (0)9 72 13 53 90 - Mobile : +33 (0)6 51 99 37 90 Registry: FR 527 672 448 00018 - VAT: FR54527672448 ID PGP/GPG: 084F2584 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
A small follow up: As far as I know the server does: * svn server / code repository * svn server / release tar.gz repository (also containing binaries) * build robot to create nightly builds and or automated builds (jenkins?) * many trac repositories - wiki, browser for svn, bug tracking (the bugs are not very helpful if noone works on them) * mailing lists So I don't know if all svn code repositories have been migrated to githup etc. I have little knowledge what plattform would be best to fill the gaps so that we can shut down the server. What I can do is make all configurations available to whoever wants to setup a new server, or help with migrating to whatever plattform. If I had to pick one, I would try code.google.com (as I work for google now), but not having much clue what plattform has what features I can be persuaded to any plattform I guess. As people mostly focused on opensc, I would be happy if the other small projects do not get lost / don't get a second class treatment. Those should be very easy to migrate as they are tiny (e.g. libp11 and pam_p11, pam_pkcs11, engine_pkcs11) and I know for sure there are many users of those code parts around that need them (e.g. many people using TPM also use engine_pkcs11 and thus libp11 and also use pkcs11-tool from opensc for testing the TPM pkcs11 module). I don't want to be the one deciding where to go, as I find little time for OpenSC these days (maybe none would be more correct). Thus I think you guys should find a compromise on the options people are offering here. Thanks and regards, Andreas ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: A small follow up: As far as I know the server does: * svn server / code repository * svn server / release tar.gz repository (also containing binaries) * build robot to create nightly builds and or automated builds (jenkins?) * many trac repositories - wiki, browser for svn, bug tracking (the bugs are not very helpful if noone works on them) * mailing lists So I don't know if all svn code repositories have been migrated to githup etc. I have little knowledge what plattform would be best to fill the gaps so that we can shut down the server. If source code repos haven't been converted to git I suggest to do so right away. Release tarballs can and should be hosted separately from source repos. I suggest that they are only ever uploaded manually. (Makefile) A build robot can and should be hosted separately from source repos. Trac integrates with git, it's not stellar in any way, but it works. Modern Trac versions support multiple repos. I would suggest to merge the different Trac instances into a single one. This will take manual labor, messing around with the Trac databases. Mailing lists aren't very fun to self-host IMO, but can certainly be done. I run integrated Trac and git hosting for several projects for years, I'm happy to do so also for the opensc projects, in particular the small ones. //Peter ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Hi, wouldn't it be better to move the remaining parts of the project to github ? Is there anything else important left on the server than the wiki ? What about the old svn repos ? We're still maintaining the opensc-java code here in our repository but have no way to bring the code back into opensc. We already thought about migrating this part into our repo at github. Andreas Am 12.09.2012 22:03, schrieb Andreas Jellinghaus: Hi, opensc-project.org http://opensc-project.org needs a new home: someone with a (real or virtual) server and the interest in setting it up from scratch and keeping it running and maintaining that server, installation and service for the project. someone who is able to win the trust of the community as new server administrator. The current installation is terribly old. It is based on ubuntu hardy and I think that is nearing the end of its supported livetime or even is unsupported now, thus it is urgently required to rebuild the server. Over the years we had several approaches and various people offered to take over running the server, but so far none of those worked out in the end, noone followed up after the initial discussion. To give this new efford more motivation here is some presure: running a server without maintenance and security updates is not a good idea. Thus I will shut down the current installation at the last end of this year. Any motivated linux administrator can setup a simple server with apache and a few copies of trac, plus postfix and a few mailing lists in a few hours or a day, with maybe a bit more time for fine tuning and migration of the content. This shouldn't be a big deal, thus there should be enough time to find someone interested in doing so and migrating opensc and related projects of the outdated installation. Regards, Andreas ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel -- -CardContact Software System Consulting |.## ##.| Andreas Schwier |# #| Schülerweg 38 |# #| 32429 Minden, Germany |'## ##'| Phone +49 171 8334920 -http://www.cardcontact.de http://www.tscons.de http://www.openscdp.org ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Hello, On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Martin Paljak mar...@martinpaljak.netwrote: Hello, On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de wrote: Hi, opensc-project.org needs a new home: someone with a (real or virtual) server and the interest in setting it up from scratch and keeping it running and maintaining that server, installation and service for the project. someone who is able to win the trust of the community as new server administrator. The current installation is terribly old. It is based on ubuntu hardy and I think that is nearing the end of its supported livetime or even is unsupported now, thus it is urgently required to rebuild the server. Over the years we had several approaches and various people offered to take over running the server, but so far none of those worked out in the end, noone followed up after the initial discussion. To give this new efford more motivation here is some presure: running a server without maintenance and security updates is not a good idea. Thus I will shut down the current installation at the last end of this year. Any motivated linux administrator can setup a simple server with apache and a few copies of trac, plus postfix and a few mailing lists in a few hours or a day, with maybe a bit more time for fine tuning and migration of the content. This shouldn't be a big deal, thus there should be enough time to find someone interested in doing so and migrating opensc and related projects of the outdated installation. I've had a barebones machine sitting in idle (except for being a ssh gateway for irc...) for almost a year, but for (past) reasons not worth mentioning, I've failed to focus sufficiently on non-real-life matters like OpenSC for a while. This might be a good chance to a) scope the services required for opensc-project.org and b) implement it on a clean machine with some systematic sysadmin approach. But for sustainable results, the scope should be seriously minimal and limited... I have a will to participate but not much of sysadmin experience. So, in the absence of other solution, with some assistance I could do this work. Currently I have an access to platform where are only running jenkins master behind apache. This platform is largely under-used and can host additional services. Martin Kind regards, Viktor. ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
[opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Hi, opensc-project.org needs a new home: someone with a (real or virtual) server and the interest in setting it up from scratch and keeping it running and maintaining that server, installation and service for the project. someone who is able to win the trust of the community as new server administrator. The current installation is terribly old. It is based on ubuntu hardy and I think that is nearing the end of its supported livetime or even is unsupported now, thus it is urgently required to rebuild the server. Over the years we had several approaches and various people offered to take over running the server, but so far none of those worked out in the end, noone followed up after the initial discussion. To give this new efford more motivation here is some presure: running a server without maintenance and security updates is not a good idea. Thus I will shut down the current installation at the last end of this year. Any motivated linux administrator can setup a simple server with apache and a few copies of trac, plus postfix and a few mailing lists in a few hours or a day, with maybe a bit more time for fine tuning and migration of the content. This shouldn't be a big deal, thus there should be enough time to find someone interested in doing so and migrating opensc and related projects of the outdated installation. Regards, Andreas ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
Re: [opensc-devel] new server hoster and adminstrator for opensc-project.org required
Hello, On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de wrote: Hi, opensc-project.org needs a new home: someone with a (real or virtual) server and the interest in setting it up from scratch and keeping it running and maintaining that server, installation and service for the project. someone who is able to win the trust of the community as new server administrator. The current installation is terribly old. It is based on ubuntu hardy and I think that is nearing the end of its supported livetime or even is unsupported now, thus it is urgently required to rebuild the server. Over the years we had several approaches and various people offered to take over running the server, but so far none of those worked out in the end, noone followed up after the initial discussion. To give this new efford more motivation here is some presure: running a server without maintenance and security updates is not a good idea. Thus I will shut down the current installation at the last end of this year. Any motivated linux administrator can setup a simple server with apache and a few copies of trac, plus postfix and a few mailing lists in a few hours or a day, with maybe a bit more time for fine tuning and migration of the content. This shouldn't be a big deal, thus there should be enough time to find someone interested in doing so and migrating opensc and related projects of the outdated installation. I've had a barebones machine sitting in idle (except for being a ssh gateway for irc...) for almost a year, but for (past) reasons not worth mentioning, I've failed to focus sufficiently on non-real-life matters like OpenSC for a while. This might be a good chance to a) scope the services required for opensc-project.org and b) implement it on a clean machine with some systematic sysadmin approach. But for sustainable results, the scope should be seriously minimal and limited... Martin ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-devel
