[opensocial] Orkut error message

2007-11-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

I'm trying to develop/test an application for Orkut.  I tried adding
it to my profile, and now all I get is an error message that says:

 Bad, bad server. No donut for you.

Unfortunately, the orkut.com server has acted out in an unexpected
way. Hopefully, it will return to its helpful self if you try again in
a few minutes.

I have no idea what to do with this.  Is there any way to get a
debugging message of some type that might tell me what is going
wrong?  Basically I am completely stuck right now.  Has anybody else
seen this, and worked past it?

Thanks


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[opensocial] Re: lets become friends to test apps on orkut sandbox

2007-11-10 Thread Vinod Khera

here is mine :
http://sandbox.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=7924093326921625756

On Nov 4, 12:05 am, Travis Choma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 me:http://sandbox.orkut.com/Application.aspx?uid=13835756509614959760

 On Nov 3, 7:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  For security purposes, the Orkut sandbox opensocial calls will only
  return information about users who are whitelisted for the sandbox.
  This is likely why many of you have been seeing empty information
  returned from the fetch VIEWER_FRIENDS calls.

  Please provide a link to your orkut profile in this thread if you want
  to add other developers int this group in your friends list and let
  other developers add you as friend.

  my profile:http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=15059725852644903002


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[opensocial] Re: How long does it take for me to get the API access code?

2007-11-10 Thread siegi

Hi Venkat,

I am not sure which access you mean, access to sandbox or the AuthSub
application registration?

Both took round about 2 days for me.

Cheers
Siegmund

On Nov 10, 9:06 am, venkat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have just signed up for the API access.

 Can anyone suggest how long will it take for Google to give me access?

 Many thanks,
 Venkat.


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[opensocial] Re: How long does it take for me to get the API access code?

2007-11-10 Thread Venkat Ramna

both,
thanks for the response!!

On Nov 10, 2007 5:11 PM, siegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Venkat,

 I am not sure which access you mean, access to sandbox or the AuthSub
 application registration?

 Both took round about 2 days for me.

 Cheers
 Siegmund


 On Nov 10, 9:06 am, venkat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have just signed up for the API access.
 
  Can anyone suggest how long will it take for Google to give me access?
 
  Many thanks,
  Venkat.


 


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[opensocial] Re: lets become friends to test apps on orkut sandbox

2007-11-10 Thread siegi

Here is mine:

http://sandbox.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=906559102739540527

Drop me a note if i should test something of your app.



On Nov 3, 8:05 pm, Travis Choma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 me:http://sandbox.orkut.com/Application.aspx?uid=13835756509614959760

 On Nov 3, 7:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  For security purposes, the Orkut sandbox opensocial calls will only
  return information about users who are whitelisted for the sandbox.
  This is likely why many of you have been seeing empty information
  returned from the fetch VIEWER_FRIENDS calls.

  Please provide a link to your orkut profile in this thread if you want
  to add other developers int this group in your friends list and let
  other developers add you as friend.

  my profile:http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=15059725852644903002


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[opensocial] Why is there no type=url in Orkut and when will it be supported?

2007-11-10 Thread siegi

Hi,

I have seen that there is an article in the issue list concerning this
type.
However from my developer perspective I would prefer this type for any
bigger or more complex application and for turning an existing
application into a gadget (as Google depicts this in the Gadgets
documentation) - So why isn't this type the #1 implementation for
Orkut Gadgets?
Any developer could build a workaround and encapsulate the content and
behavior into a dynamically generated Javascript and encapsulate the
logic within the generated Javascript. But why should this be
necessary?

Any thoughts welcome.

Btw. does anybody know when this type will be supported on Orkut or
any other opensocial implementation, may be Hi5 is quicker in getting
it included?

Tanks!


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[opensocial] Application with registered users - How to integrate into OpenSocial?

2007-11-10 Thread siegi

Hi,

I would like to discuss how to integrate a site with content and
registered users into a social gadget.

What to do with content generated from registered users that are not
part of the social network where the application is integrated - like
Orkut? Should the application only show content of users from the
social network or would it be better to integrate the whole content,
which would show more relevant information?

This question drives my memory, while I am trying to build a social
gadget from an existing site.

So if you are working on similar problems, please let me know your
thoughts.

Thanks.


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[opensocial] Re: Orkut error message

2007-11-10 Thread siegi

Hi,

yes I am receiving this message from time to time, but a few of the
links are still working for me.
So I was able to add friends and go on the friends page but I could
not go to my homepage.

On Nov 10, 9:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm trying to develop/test an application for Orkut.  I tried adding
 it to my profile, and now all I get is an error message that says:

  Bad, bad server. No donut for you.

 Unfortunately, the orkut.com server has acted out in an unexpected
 way. Hopefully, it will return to its helpful self if you try again in
 a few minutes.

 I have no idea what to do with this.  Is there any way to get a
 debugging message of some type that might tell me what is going
 wrong?  Basically I am completely stuck right now.  Has anybody else
 seen this, and worked past it?

 Thanks


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[opensocial] Re: Hosting an Activity feed

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel C. Silverstein (cubes)

Marco,

You don't need to do anything to direct the event to a particular  
environment; the event always goes to the local environment.  Thus, a  
gadget installed on Hi5 will post to the Hi5 activity feed, and a  
gadget installed on Orkut will post to the Orkut activity feed.

(Dan)

On Nov 3, 2007, at 1:30 PM, marco wrote:


 I've read documentation about how to call the API and to raise an
 activity event.
 But how can I direct this event to a particular hosting environment?

 E.g. sent the event to Hi5 or to MySpace?

 Or do hosting environement receive the events indirectly from Google
 and google dispatches these events to the various hosting
 environments?

 Regards,

 Marco


 


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[opensocial] Re: Security Problems

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel C. Silverstein (cubes)

Standard disclaimer, IANAG (I Am Not A Googler):

As I understand it, user preferences are an iGoogleism, and,  
generally speaking, will not be supported in most OpenSocial  
containers.  I've heard  reports that they work in Orkut, but, unless  
we here otherwise from the powers that be, you shouldn't depend on them.

Of course, at the moment, data storage support in most containers is  
pretty, well, uh, FAIL.  Plaxo *MAY* have a working data storage  
implementation, but it would be great if someone could verify this.

(Dan)

On Nov 3, 2007, at 6:12 PM, RickMeasham wrote:


 Appending an application URL with `up_whatever=value` will make the
 value accessible using the preferences module. This is a handy thing
 as you can give a URL out that passes something to the iframe like
 `up_show=overview`
 or
 `up_show=detailup_item=12`

 However, it must be noted that anything specified like this will
 OVERRIDE the real user preferences.

 I can't see any exploit that this will allow, but do not blindly trust
 anything at all until there is some way of getting the information
 signed

 Cheers!
 Rick Measham


 


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[opensocial] Re: opensocial not defined for url contenttype

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel C. Silverstein (cubes)

url type gadgets are not presently supported in OpenSocial.

(Dan)

On Nov 3, 2007, at 11:20 PM, Amit Upadhyay wrote:


 Hi,

 I am trying to make a gadget with url contenttype [http://
 code.google.com/apis/gadgets/docs/fundamentals.html#URL], and let me
 just say the following snippet is less than helpful, when I am trying
 to convert it to python.

 ?php
   // Parse gadget URL and emit script src=.../script statements
 into the HTML output.
   // The script src=.../script statements will load the
 libraries passed in via the URL.
   $libraries = split(,, $_GET[libs]);
   foreach ($libraries as $script) {
 if (preg_match('@^[a-z0-9/[EMAIL PROTECTED]', $script)
!preg_match('@([.][.])|([.]/)|(//)@', $script)) {
 print script src='http://www.google.com/ig/f/$script'/
 script;
 }
   }
 ?

 I am getting 404 for http://www.google.com/ig/f/c/opensocial-0.5/ 
 orkut,
 when I blindly substitute $script to URL without passing them through
 the regular expressions [which works for other urls].

 I tried adding script type=text/javascript src=http://r5oub4bm-
 a.gmodules.com/46/o/0.5/opensocial.js/script
 12 script type=text/javascript src=http://r5oub4bm-a.gmodules.com/
 46/o/orkutcontainer1.js/script to my app, that I discovered when
 seeing some other apps that are working, but its not working either,
 in this case the json request goes back to my server, and gets 404ed.


 


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[opensocial] Re: OK, javascript, I get it. But can I use server-side?

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel C. Silverstein (cubes)

Actually, that's incorrect.  The _IG_Fetch* methods, which are part  
of the core Google Gadgets api can be used to access remote sites,  
including your own.  See: http://code.google.com/apis/gadgets/docs/ 
reference.html#Core
for details.

(Dan)

On Nov 2, 2007, at 8:17 PM, junkpop wrote:


 To access server-side stuff, we'll have to use our own forms and
 AJAX.  There are no built-in calls in OpenSocial for communication to
 your site.

 On Nov 2, 2:42 pm, EGreg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been reading the docs.

 I understand that a social gadget is a javscript thingy that can be
 run anywhere.
 I can get the social network information for the person, their
 friends, etc.

 But what is the most effective (and recommended) way to connect with
 MY backend?

 So I've got these variables in JAVASCRIPT. How do I conenct to my
 backend?

 The best way I can think of is to use either AJAX or include the info
 in GET parameters. Does anyone have better ideas? Google doesn't seem
 to talk about it.

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[opensocial] Re: Inconsistencies in obtaining and saving opensocial id's.

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel C. Silverstein (cubes)

Keep in mind that most (all?) JavaScript implementations out there  
will choke if you try to store or manipulate 64-bit integers (signed  
or unsigned), so for all JS code, you should treat ids as strings.   
Of course, since ids are pretty much opaque values, this doesn't  
really cause any problems; for example, it would never be meaningful  
to add two user ids.

(Dan)

On Nov 8, 2007, at 12:10 PM, fernando padilla wrote:


 I haven't been paying attention, but I haven't heard something
 definitive about the id space.

 Anyhow. the Negative numbers might have something to do with unsigned
 long != two's complement signed long.  So a 64bit id can be
 represented as an unsigned long (all positive numbers), or a two's
 complement signed long ( half of the bit space is negative ).  I did
 bump into this earlier because they were giving out unsigned long ids,
 which java doesn't support, so we had to manually convert that
 unsigned long into a signed long.. hence we dealt with negative
 numbers.. :)



 On Nov 6, 2007 9:43 AM, Suhail Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sure I get an id like this: -751714324471179



 On Nov 6, 10:20 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
 Hi, do you have any examples?





 


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[opensocial] Re: Why is there no type=url in Orkut and when will it be supported?

2007-11-10 Thread Daniel C. Silverstein (cubes)

IANAG (I am not a Googler) but, as I understand it, whether or not  
url type gadgets will be supported in OpenSocial is still to be  
determined.

(Dan)

On Nov 10, 2007, at 4:22 AM, siegi wrote:


 Hi,

 I have seen that there is an article in the issue list concerning this
 type.
 However from my developer perspective I would prefer this type for any
 bigger or more complex application and for turning an existing
 application into a gadget (as Google depicts this in the Gadgets
 documentation) - So why isn't this type the #1 implementation for
 Orkut Gadgets?
 Any developer could build a workaround and encapsulate the content and
 behavior into a dynamically generated Javascript and encapsulate the
 logic within the generated Javascript. But why should this be
 necessary?

 Any thoughts welcome.

 Btw. does anybody know when this type will be supported on Orkut or
 any other opensocial implementation, may be Hi5 is quicker in getting
 it included?

 Tanks!


 


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[opensocial] Re: Orkut's Sandbox down ?

2007-11-10 Thread JMoo

Problem solved for me anyway. My company blocks Orkut.
Mike

On Nov 9, 8:32 am, JMoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I already said this on another thread but:

 I received the OpenSocial Developers invitation via Gmail.

 I can't access any of the orkut urls including sandbox.orkut.com.I
 don't have any trouble accessing any other sites on the web.

 Firefox gives ...
 Unable to connect

 Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at
 sandbox.orkut.com.

 *   The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try
 again in a few
   moments.

 *   If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's
 network
   connection.

 *   If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or
 proxy, make sure
   that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.

 On Nov 9, 1:49 am, Zabuza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  hello world !

  so i can't access to Orkut's Sandbox... it is down ?


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[opensocial] Re: lets become friends to test apps on orkut sandbox

2007-11-10 Thread Aubrey Holland

Here is mine:

http://sandbox.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=4403819096265431052

On Nov 10, 7:03 am, siegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here is mine:

 http://sandbox.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=906559102739540527

 Drop me a note if i should test something of your app.

 On Nov 3, 8:05 pm, Travis Choma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  me:http://sandbox.orkut.com/Application.aspx?uid=13835756509614959760

  On Nov 3, 7:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:

   For security purposes, the Orkut sandbox opensocial calls will only
   return information about users who are whitelisted for the sandbox.
   This is likely why many of you have been seeing empty information
   returned from the fetch VIEWER_FRIENDS calls.

   Please provide a link to your orkut profile in this thread if you want
   to add other developers int this group in yourfriendslist and let
   other developers add you as friend.

   my profile:http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=15059725852644903002


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[opensocial] When will OpenSocial go live?

2007-11-10 Thread hobnobLover

When will OpenSocial go live on Orkut? Meaning, when will we be able
to add our apps to the directory, and let users be able to download/
add them? (Listing release dates for other sites such as hi5, MySpace,
Ning, and others would help also).

Thank you!

- hobnobLover.
http://www.hobnobLover.com/


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[opensocial] Re: When is the sandbox becoming a playground?

2007-11-10 Thread Jayesh Salvi
It would be understandable if Google won't announce the dates just yet. But
I would like to know some information on relative timeline. Will the GData
API start working before orkut opensocial goes out of sandbox?

Thanks,
Jayesh

On Nov 9, 2007 1:01 PM, Arne Roomann-Kurrik (Google) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 Hi Suhail,

We haven't released the date that we'll be lifting the sandbox
 restriction from Orkut's OpenSocial implementation and opening access
 to the public.  We'll be announcing that date here in the group, so
 you should get a conspicuous notice once we do.  There should be
 enough advance notice to get your apps polished for the launch, so for
 the time being, I'd focus on writing better code.  As a suggestion,
 make your OpenSocial integration points pretty modular, so that when
 the API changes between now and then, you won't spend too much time
 modifying your existing code.

 ~Arne



 On Nov 9, 12:42 am, Suhail Doshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sorry if it's been answered but I would like to know when OpenSocial
  will be public enough to where anyone can install applications, or at
  least on Orkut.
 
  Is there any schedule at all, I've been creating an application in a
  hurry to get it out there but if the public can't use it and we
  continue to stay sandboxed for more time, I'd like to know to take
  more development time and create higher quality code.
 
  Thank you.


 


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[opensocial] Re: Orkut error message

2007-11-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I can't seem to get to any page, Home, Friends, Communities, etc.

I've been told to just try removing the app and starting over, but I
can't figure out how to remove the app since I just get the error
message on every page.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

On Nov 10, 4:46 am, siegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 yes I am receiving this message from time to time, but a few of the
 links are still working for me.
 So I was able to add friends and go on the friends page but I could
 not go to my homepage.

 On Nov 10, 9:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,

  I'm trying to develop/test an application for Orkut.  I tried adding
  it to my profile, and now all I get is an error message that says:

   Bad, bad server. No donut for you.

  Unfortunately, the orkut.com server has acted out in an unexpected
  way. Hopefully, it will return to its helpful self if you try again in
  a few minutes.

  I have no idea what to do with this.  Is there any way to get a
  debugging message of some type that might tell me what is going
  wrong?  Basically I am completely stuck right now.  Has anybody else
  seen this, and worked past it?

  Thanks


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[opensocial] Re: lets become friends to test apps on orkut sandbox

2007-11-10 Thread Jayesh Salvi
That's me: http://sandbox.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=14313876075712456229

On Nov 10, 2007 8:22 AM, Aubrey Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Here is mine:

 http://sandbox.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=4403819096265431052

 On Nov 10, 7:03 am, siegi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Here is mine:
 
  http://sandbox.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=906559102739540527
 
  Drop me a note if i should test something of your app.
 
  On Nov 3, 8:05 pm, Travis Choma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   me:http://sandbox.orkut.com/Application.aspx?uid=13835756509614959760
 
   On Nov 3, 7:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
 
For security purposes, the Orkut sandbox opensocial calls will only
return information about users who are whitelisted for the sandbox.
This is likely why many of you have been seeing empty information
returned from the fetch VIEWER_FRIENDS calls.
 
Please provide a link to your orkut profile in this thread if you
 want
to add other developers int this group in yourfriendslist and let
other developers add you as friend.
 
my profile:
 http://www.orkut.com/Profile.aspx?uid=15059725852644903002


 


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[opensocial] Re: When will OpenSocial go live?

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Thanks for putting that question. It is exactly the same what I am
wondering about!

On Nov 10, 10:34 pm, hobnobLover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When will OpenSocial go live on Orkut? Meaning, when will we be able
 to add our apps to the directory, and let users be able to download/
 add them? (Listing release dates for other sites such as hi5, MySpace,
 Ning, and others would help also).

 Thank you!

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[opensocial] Global vs. Instance vs. Person App Data

2007-11-10 Thread Zach

I'm sure I'm just not looking in the right place, but I can't seem to
find any description of what the differences between the Global,
Instance, and Person versions of Persistent data are.  Can anyone
explain what each one is?


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