Re: [osol-discuss] python 3 package

2009-10-17 Thread Peter Schow
On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:23:15AM -0700, Chris wrote:
> is there an opensolaris package out there for python 3?  I have 
> search around but haven't found any.

I was wondering the same thing.  The good news is that Python 3.1 is easy
to build and install, assuming you have downloaded the source tgz and
have gcc installed:

   % ./configure --prefix=/opt/local
   % make
   % pfexec make install

   % /opt/local/bin/python3
   Python 3.1.1 (r311:74480, Oct 17 2009, 19:21:17) 
   GCC 3.4.3 (csl-sol210-3_4-20050802)] on sunos5

This can hold you over until the real Python 3 package is available.

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[osol-discuss] Not understanding Log messages concerning domain

2009-10-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Crosspost Alert:  This message was also posted on the networking list
But then I wondered if it might be better to send it to `general'

I'm getting repetitions of these lines in system log.. It appears to
have something to do with networking but not entirely sure what:
(wrapped for mail)

  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 816981 daemon.debug] DNS search
  for '_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs' failed (Unknown host)
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 206085 daemon.debug] Searching
  DNS for SRV RRs named '_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs'
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 816981 daemon.debug] DNS search
  for '_ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs' failed (Unknown host)
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 600274 daemon.debug] unable to
  discover Domain Name
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 492908 daemon.debug] unable to
  discover Domain Controller
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 692716 daemon.debug] unable to
  discover Forest Name
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 966149 daemon.debug] unable to
  discover Site Name
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 520885 daemon.debug] unable to
  discover Global Catalog
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 638774 daemon.debug] unable to
  discover Domains in the Forest
  
  Oct 17 01:39:06 zfs idmap[2638]: [ID 767837 daemon.debug] unable to
  discover Trusted Domains


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[osol-discuss] DIscussion details may be viewed at

2009-10-17 Thread Peter Jones
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/wusb/;jsessionid=E7FB9152E08D7AF555358B1BF479383E
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[osol-discuss] New user needing help

2009-10-17 Thread joseph denson
HI i just started using open solaris. I really like it, i have no clue how to 
use it but hey. So to the point everytime i open the terminal i was in the 
account i created not the root. So i thought i could logout and then onto 
root...haha now im stuck in the text console.(where it says "-bash-3.2$") I 
need help getting back to the visual desktop thing

So I don't know anything save some basic C++ I took in collage and a little 
common sense any help would be appreciated

joe
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[osol-discuss] python 3 package

2009-10-17 Thread Chris
is there an opensolaris package out there for python 3?  I have search around 
but haven't found any.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread Mika Borner

Alexander wrote:


In BSD it's easier (at least in FreeBSD). Base system is updated quite 
regularly (e.g. after 7.1-RELEASE we had 7.1-RELEASE-p1, 7.1-RELEASE-p2 and so 
on...).  And ports are updated separately and quite often... What is important, 
in FreeBSD we have at least two branches (current, stable and legacy). There 
are much more freedom: I may update to latest patch level, update to next 
release  or to checkout current and get all cool features and new bugs :) And 
here I don't see RELEASE branch (patchsets and upstream), only stale releases 
or permanent CURRENT.
  

IMHO, what is needed is a subscription below the Basic Support.

Just the package updates, as we can get support etc. here from the 
community.


I would assume for approx. 20$/year, a lot of enthusiasts would pay for 
it (I certainly would), while $324 is just too much.

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread Alexander
> Don't think about it as Linux. It has more with BSD
> systems. Like OpenBSD. You have release, you can have
> stable with security updates but only for base system
> (sunsolve.sun.com). If you want updates for packages
> too then you must use current(dev). Which is not
> problem. It's problem when you must use another OS
> because OpenBSD is in current versions way ahead in
> stability then any other OS in its stable version.

In BSD it's easier (at least in FreeBSD). Base system is updated quite 
regularly (e.g. after 7.1-RELEASE we had 7.1-RELEASE-p1, 7.1-RELEASE-p2 and so 
on...).  And ports are updated separately and quite often... What is important, 
in FreeBSD we have at least two branches (current, stable and legacy). There 
are much more freedom: I may update to latest patch level, update to next 
release  or to checkout current and get all cool features and new bugs :) And 
here I don't see RELEASE branch (patchsets and upstream), only stale releases 
or permanent CURRENT.
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Re: [osol-discuss] strange bash behavior

2009-10-17 Thread Chris
I did check the /etc/passwd file, that path is correct
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Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot install guest OS using virtualbox on opensolaris 2009.06 host

2009-10-17 Thread Jürgen Keil
> Hi, I have installed opensolaris 2009.06 on my dell
> laptop d620. I have installed Sun virtualbox 3.0.8
> r53138.
> 
> When I try to install to install a guest OS - Windows
> XP Pro or Ubuntu 9.04, I get the following message:
> 
> FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted.
> 
> The medium being used is CD/DVD Drive

Maybe you could use a file iso image as a workaround?

 
> HOST CD/DVD Drive with the following values:
> DVD+-RW AD-5540A (/dev/rdsk/ct8t0d0s2

Not sure, but according to this virtualbox on opensolaris
host thread, cd/dvd drive access is broken in vbox 3.0.8:

http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=23392
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[osol-discuss] Cannot install guest OS using virtualbox on opensolaris 2009.06 host

2009-10-17 Thread Mike K
Hi, I have installed opensolaris 2009.06 on my dell laptop d620. I have 
installed Sun virtualbox 3.0.8 r53138.

When I try to install to install a guest OS - Windows XP Pro or Ubuntu 9.04, I 
get the following message:

FATAL: No bootable medium found! System halted.

The medium being used is CD/DVD Drive

HOST CD/DVD Drive with the following values:
DVD+-RW AD-5540A (/dev/rdsk/ct8t0d0s2

I have googled the same but cannot find a solution.

Incidentally, i have installed the guest OS's on another computer running 
Debian host with Sun Virtualbox.

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Re: [osol-discuss] exec_attr is empty..

2009-10-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Alexander  writes:

> What a hell!!! 

> After updating to opensolaris build 125 I got an empty
> /etc/security/exec_attr, pkg fix SUNWcs (from old BE) didn't help
> from the first time, only after deleting empty file.  Do these bugs
> bother only me?

I just updated yesterday from 124 to 125.  /etc/security/exec_attr has
386 lines.

 # wc -l /etc/security/exec_attr
 386 /etc/security/exec_attr

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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Don't think about it as Linux. It has more with BSD systems. Like OpenBSD. You 
have release, you can have stable with security updates but only for base 
system (sunsolve.sun.com). If you want updates for packages too then you must 
use current(dev). Which is not problem. It's problem when you must use another 
OS because OpenBSD is in current versions way ahead in stability then any other 
OS in its stable version.
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread Bartlomiej Pelc
> ... Solaris patches are available only by
> non-free subscription.

You are wrong. Solaris security patches are free, you just need to create 
account on sunsolve.sun.com
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Re: [osol-discuss] gnome-terminal core dumps on build 125

2009-10-17 Thread Mika Borner

Harry Lu wrote:
It is http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=12054 and has a 
workaround there.



Yes, workaround did work.

Thanks!

Cheers
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Re: [osol-discuss] gnome-terminal core dumps on build 125

2009-10-17 Thread Harry Lu
It is http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=12054 and has a 
workaround there.


Harry

Mika Borner wrote:

Hi

After starting up gnome-terminal under build 125 it core dumps:

core 'core' of 1595:gnome-terminal
-  lwp# 1 / thread# 1  
fd85ce63 _vte_terminal_ring_append (81c50f8, 0, 50, fd87f706) + 1f
fd87f81d vte_sequence_handler_cd (81c4ff0, 0, 80475c8, fd882112) + 125
fd882178 vte_sequence_handler_erase_in_display (81c4ff0, 8163fa0, f, 
fd88376a) + 74
fd883895 _vte_terminal_handle_sequence (81c4ff0, 81c23d8, 50b, 
8163fa0) + 139

fd862d99 vte_terminal_process_incoming (81c4ff0, 0) + 405
fd87481c time_process_incoming (81c4ff0, 1, 81c4ff0, fd8748ae) + 2c
fd874a4c process_timeout (0, fedcc460, 8047768, fed26c71) + 1ac
fed26c87 g_timeout_dispatch (8253db8, fd8748a0, 0, 80477e0) + 23
fed24eee g_main_context_dispatch (80d1d30, 0, 824d790, b) + 262
fed2559f g_main_context_iterate (80d1d30, 1, 1, 80a6858) + 483
fed25bc9 g_main_loop_run (8249df0, 8249df0, 80a9800, fe37e73a) + 1dd
fe37e7e3 gtk_main (feffb804, 0, 80aa04c, feffb804, 80479c0, fefdcf48) 
+ b7

0806b594 main (1, 8047a14, 8047a1c, 806779f) + 944
080677fd _start   (1, 8047b24, 0, 8047b33, 8047b7f, 8047bbf) + 7d
-  lwp# 2 / thread# 2  
feef35c5 __read   (15, f5cbef50, 14, fed270a6) + 15
fed270c1 child_watch_helper_thread (0, 80b3720, 200, fed4d1de) + 29
fed4d303 g_thread_create_proxy (80b3720, fef81000, f5cbefe8, f45e) 
+ 133

f4b3 _thrp_setup (fdcb0a00) + 9b
f740 _lwp_start (fdcb0a00, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0)


Any ideas?

Cheers
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Re: [osol-discuss] strange bash behavior

2009-10-17 Thread Chris
now that I think about this I think it might have to do with the fact that I
moved the home directory to a different drive. There must be some lingering
reference to the old location that bash uses to determine if its the home
directory and replace it with the tilde.
my $HOME variable is set correctly
when I just enter cd or  cd ~ it goes back to the right directory.

any ideas where any lingering reference could be to the old home location?

my bash version:
GNU bash, version 3.2.25(1)-release (i386-pc-solaris2.11)
Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote:

>
> > I am using opensolaris 2009.06
> >
> > In bash I have the prompt set to display the current directory and when I
> > go back to my home directory I expect it to replace it with ~.  The tilde
> > is there when I first bring up a shell but if I navigate away from my
> home
> > directory and then go back it doesn't replace the path with the tilde.
> Any
> > ideas what the problem is here? is this a bash bug or some config
> problem?
> >
> > bash version:
> > GNU bash, version 3.2.25(1)-release (i386-pc-solaris2.11)
> > Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> >
> > prompt variable:
> > PS1='[...@\h \W]\$ '
>
> I just tried that on Solaris 8 and it works as expected :
>
> $ cd
> $ /opt/csw/bin/bash --version
> GNU bash, version 4.0.28(1)-release (i386-pc-solaris2.8)
> Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <
> http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
>
> This is free software; you are free to change and redistribute it.
> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>
> $ /opt/csw/bin/bash
> bash-4.0$ PS1='[...@\h \W]\$ '
> [dcla...@titan ~]$ cd /tmp
> [dcla...@titan tmp]$ cd
> [dcla...@titan ~]$ cd /export/nfs
> [dcla...@titan nfs]$ uname -a
> SunOS titan 5.8 Generic_127722-02 i86pc i386 i86pc
>
>
> On a recent OpenSolaris release it seems to work fine also
>
> $ uname -a
> SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
> $ bash --version
> GNU bash, version 3.2.25(1)-release (i386-pc-solaris2.11)
> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> $ bash
> j...@opensolaris:~$ PS1='[...@\h \W]\$ '
> [j...@opensolaris ~]$
> [j...@opensolaris ~]$ cd /tmp
> [j...@opensolaris tmp]$ cd /mnt
> [j...@opensolaris mnt]$ cd
> [j...@opensolaris ~]$
> [j...@opensolaris ~]$ exit
> exit
>
> Not too sure how you are getting that result.
> What rev of bash do you have ?
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread john kroll
Sxce has had a long time bug or something with its registration wizard. Will 
the new sun/oracale wiz register fix that ??
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread Uros Nedic

I agree with you, but only I could say is that OpenSolaris project isjust 4 
years old and we have releases since 2008, so everything isunder heavy 
development. Also, keep in mind that SUN has beenbought by Oracle and currently 
is process of this acquisition incompany itself, so your ideas will be on the 
desk at some point oftime next year.
Of course if you would like to make some contribution to code,or write your 
ideas in one document, you are more than welcometo do so - just find proper 
community/project inside os.o andsend them. They will hear it for sure and you 
will be informed morewhen you could expect those features integrated in 
OpenSolaris.
We need more active users like you.
Uros


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> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:00:36 -0700
> From: a...@rsu.ru
> To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?
> 
> > Maybe you could try to deploy Solaris 10, with all
> > updates.
> 1) Our applications are no so critical to pay for Sun Support, and Solaris 
> patches are available only by non-free subscription.
> 2) Solaris package system is quite ugly (in my opinion).
> 
> >OpenSolaris is new project. You could
> > look at OpenSolarisas Ubuntu. They have
> > once in three years LTS (long termsupport)
> > which is similar to Solaris 10 and future Solaris
> > 11releases. Other releases are stable
> > releases intended for'non mission
> > critical' applications'.
> 
> Yes, but my home Ubuntu is updated several times per month. It is not LTS, 
> it's only 09.04 jaunty version. Why OpenSolaris 09.06, e.g. can't be updated 
> in such a way (security fixes + minor application versions)? As I see on my 
> test OpenSolaris 09.06 installation (updated recently with pkg iamge-update), 
> it has firefox 3.1b3 Why can't stable version of firefox be shipped with 
> it? And such situation is with other security fixes and new apps. They come 
> to /dev, but never backported to /release. 
> P.S> I know about OpenSolaris Subscription, but it is strange to buy support 
> for updates of free system, especially when I can install some other free 
> system with regular security updates (Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS or something 
> else...). And why should I pay for consulting, if I need only to receive  
> some software fixes regularly?
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread Alexander
> Maybe you could try to deploy Solaris 10, with all
> updates.
1) Our applications are no so critical to pay for Sun Support, and Solaris 
patches are available only by non-free subscription.
2) Solaris package system is quite ugly (in my opinion).

>OpenSolaris is new project. You could
> look at OpenSolarisas Ubuntu. They have
> once in three years LTS (long termsupport)
> which is similar to Solaris 10 and future Solaris
> 11releases. Other releases are stable
> releases intended for'non mission
> critical' applications'.

Yes, but my home Ubuntu is updated several times per month. It is not LTS, it's 
only 09.04 jaunty version. Why OpenSolaris 09.06, e.g. can't be updated in such 
a way (security fixes + minor application versions)? As I see on my test 
OpenSolaris 09.06 installation (updated recently with pkg iamge-update), it has 
firefox 3.1b3 Why can't stable version of firefox be shipped with it? And 
such situation is with other security fixes and new apps. They come to /dev, 
but never backported to /release. 
P.S> I know about OpenSolaris Subscription, but it is strange to buy support 
for updates of free system, especially when I can install some other free 
system with regular security updates (Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS or something 
else...). And why should I pay for consulting, if I need only to receive  some 
software fixes regularly?
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Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread Uros Nedic

Maybe you could try to deploy Solaris 10, with all updates.OpenSolaris is new 
project. You could look at OpenSolarisas Ubuntu. They have once in three years 
LTS (long termsupport) which is similar to Solaris 10 and future Solaris 
11releases. Other releases are stable releases intended for'non mission 
critical' applications'. Bi-weekly builds arepure development versions which 
you could not rely onanyway.
If OpenSolaris Community just publish some cutting-edgetechnology, it doesn't 
mean that it is stable, secure andmature at the same time.
Uros

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> Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:18:42 -0700
> From: a...@rsu.ru
> To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Subject: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?
> 
> I've recently found out that for OpenSolaris releases security update are not 
> free... 
> It's quite confusing: end users receive either unstable (dev) or unsecure 
> (release) system :)
> Does somebody know if there are any plans to make OpenSolaris security 
> updates free? 
> I think about CentOS/OpenSolaris-release for several our production servers 
> (now they are running SXCE b97)... I'd better make them on FreeBSD, but SRSS 
> doesn't like it...  :)
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[osol-discuss] gnome-terminal core dumps on build 125

2009-10-17 Thread Mika Borner

Hi

After starting up gnome-terminal under build 125 it core dumps:

core 'core' of 1595:gnome-terminal
-  lwp# 1 / thread# 1  
fd85ce63 _vte_terminal_ring_append (81c50f8, 0, 50, fd87f706) + 1f
fd87f81d vte_sequence_handler_cd (81c4ff0, 0, 80475c8, fd882112) + 125
fd882178 vte_sequence_handler_erase_in_display (81c4ff0, 8163fa0, f, 
fd88376a) + 74
fd883895 _vte_terminal_handle_sequence (81c4ff0, 81c23d8, 50b, 8163fa0) 
+ 139

fd862d99 vte_terminal_process_incoming (81c4ff0, 0) + 405
fd87481c time_process_incoming (81c4ff0, 1, 81c4ff0, fd8748ae) + 2c
fd874a4c process_timeout (0, fedcc460, 8047768, fed26c71) + 1ac
fed26c87 g_timeout_dispatch (8253db8, fd8748a0, 0, 80477e0) + 23
fed24eee g_main_context_dispatch (80d1d30, 0, 824d790, b) + 262
fed2559f g_main_context_iterate (80d1d30, 1, 1, 80a6858) + 483
fed25bc9 g_main_loop_run (8249df0, 8249df0, 80a9800, fe37e73a) + 1dd
fe37e7e3 gtk_main (feffb804, 0, 80aa04c, feffb804, 80479c0, fefdcf48) + b7
0806b594 main (1, 8047a14, 8047a1c, 806779f) + 944
080677fd _start   (1, 8047b24, 0, 8047b33, 8047b7f, 8047bbf) + 7d
-  lwp# 2 / thread# 2  
feef35c5 __read   (15, f5cbef50, 14, fed270a6) + 15
fed270c1 child_watch_helper_thread (0, 80b3720, 200, fed4d1de) + 29
fed4d303 g_thread_create_proxy (80b3720, fef81000, f5cbefe8, f45e) 
+ 133

f4b3 _thrp_setup (fdcb0a00) + 9b
f740 _lwp_start (fdcb0a00, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0)


Any ideas?

Cheers
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[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: insecure or unstable ?

2009-10-17 Thread Alexander
I've recently found out that for OpenSolaris releases security update are not 
free... 
It's quite confusing: end users receive either unstable (dev) or unsecure 
(release) system :)
Does somebody know if there are any plans to make OpenSolaris security updates 
free? 
I think about CentOS/OpenSolaris-release for several our production servers 
(now they are running SXCE b97)... I'd better make them on FreeBSD, but SRSS 
doesn't like it...  :)
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[osol-discuss] exec_attr is empty..

2009-10-17 Thread Alexander
What a hell!!! 
After updating to opensolaris build 125 I got an empty /etc/security/exec_attr, 
pkg fix SUNWcs (from old BE) didn't help from the first time, only after 
deleting empty file.
Do these bugs bother only me?
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