Re: [osol-discuss] Software is free. Service is not. Mike Rocha and Tim Ch
And since the source is open for almost all of it, anyone in the community who chose to do so could backport security updates to a stable branch in their copy of the source gate and offer binaries built from that to other community members - but in the almost two years since 2008.05 released, no community member or members have stepped forward to do so - most just followed /dev or bought Sun support for production machines they didn't want to follow /dev. So basically what this means is that the OpenSolaris community is free to do what the CentOS community does with Red Hat Enterprise Linux security patches if and when it gets large enough to do so. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Failsafe boot for Opensolaris 2009.06 ?
Hugh my friend, the happy face boot is the most retarded thing I have ever seen in the history of UNIX server operating systems. Because you're a sysadmin who only uses SSH to connect to remote servers and administer them from the command line, of course you are going to want to disable tha pesky resource hogging gnome desktop with svcadm disable gdm command and then some clown in the data center reboots your server on accident so that when you come back a week later to see what messages are on the console, all you see is a blue background with an orange bar moving back and forth forever and ever. Honestly, I can't say that I've ever had that problem with FreeBSD or Red Hat or Ubuntu server or OpenBSD. and people who work at Sun wonder why there is a prevailing impression in the *nix community that OpenSolaris is geared for desktop more than server use The trick to getting rid of that evil happy face thing is that you want to edit the /rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst file and comment out the splashimage, foreground and background lines and remove the console=graphics part at the end of your $kernel line and replace it with a -v for a nice, beautiful, FreeBSD style verbose UNIX kernel boot with lots of informative and useful text messages flying by while the server boots up that tell you (the sysadmin) useful things about the server and the OS kernel as it's starting up. After you are done editing it, your grub/menu.lst file should look something like this: $ cat /rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst timeout 3 default 0 #-- ADDED BY BOOTADM - DO NOT EDIT -- # # too late, I already edited it. #- the sysadmin # title OpenSolaris Development snv_129 findroot (pool_rpool,0,a) bootfs rpool/ROOT/opensolaris kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS -v module$ /platform/i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive #-END BOOTADM -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Failsafe boot for Opensolaris 2009.06 ?
Also note, while OpenSolaris x86 might not have failsafe boot, it does have single user mode which can be pretty useful (see link below): http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/entry/boot_into_single_user_mode -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Because I don't know where to find help
I hope someone would know why I cannot get product updates for my purchased staroffice software bundle after Oracle took over the website and now the BigAdmin site is not online for me to ask any questions. So I trouble any of the folks that are here because as my title states where do I go? I don't see a reason for my patch downloads to cease on a product I purchased through at least the next version lifecycle so I am confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Because I don't know where to find help
Chad, I hope someone would know why I cannot get product updates for my purchased staroffice software bundle after Oracle took over the website and now the BigAdmin site is not online for me to ask any questions. So I trouble any of the folks that are here because as my title states where do I go? I don't see a reason for my patch downloads to cease on a product I purchased through at least the next version lifecycle so I am confused. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dunno about Staroffice, but BigAdmin is up at http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/home/index.jsp But seeing BigAdmin at Oracle just made me cringe. Regards... Sean. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle is creepy
Oh, this is most probably just a normal IBM employee. IBM was the first company to utilize FUD, just read the wikipedia article on FUD and you will see. On other sites, there are always IBM astroturfers writing things as I work at a large investment bank and we love Solaris and SPARC, but now we tried IBM POWER6 and damn they are fast! Now we are migrating to IBM. We are consolidating 400 Solaris servers to one IBM POWER6 server, and we have plenty of cycles to burn. Too bad, I really love Solaris and SPARC, but frankly they are not that good anymore. Just my 2 cents. Sometimes they write that they work at a large stock exchange, or a large telecom company but the rest is practically almost identical text. We only see small small changes. I expect the frequency of these posts to increase. Anyway, this is most normal IBM tactics. FUD company no 1, the master of FUD. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle is creepy
Oh, this is most probably just a normal IBM employee. IBM was the first company to utilize FUD, just read the wikipedia article on FUD and you will see. On other sites, there are always IBM astroturfers writing things as I work at a large investment bank and we love Solaris and SPARC, but now we tried IBM POWER6 and damn they are fast! Now we are migrating to IBM. We are consolidating 400 Solaris servers to one IBM POWER6 server, and we have plenty of cycles to burn. Too bad, I really love Solaris and SPARC, but frankly they are not that good anymore. Just my 2 cents. Sometimes they write that they work at a large stock exchange, or a large telecom company but the rest is practically almost identical text. We only see small small changes. I expect the frequency of these posts to increase. Anyway, this is most normal IBM tactics. FUD company no 1, the master of FUD. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] What currently makes me feel some pain with osol
First, great work at all! Really easy going server os, thumb up! But, (We run here an heterogeneous ms ad environment) - the smbautohomes have some bugs - davenport (http://sourceforge.net/projects/davenport/) lists sometimes other active homeshares - the hidden shares are not filtered out of the total_entries in srvsvc reply (makes trouble with currently widely shipped smb_client-lib (sharelisting is not available)) - group based logon permissions / root role access, would be nice (e.g. on fileserver allow only Domain Admins logon and grant them access to root role) - support recursive group membership resolution based on DN as membership value, I was told that the problem with membership limit is fixed (now it is dynamic list, no longer a static list), so extend nss_ldap or get nss_ad working in way that it could be used as complementing part for idmap (use the information from ad about numeric uid/gid, aso) - cifs server should support kerberized authentification (is wip afaik) Florian smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Logging in problem B130-B132
I have recently installed B130 and updated it.The new login screen is displayed however after a short period of use I am getting problems with login.Putting my username and password for single user acount the screen goes to normal wallpaper and hangs. The display message is (/user/lib/gconf-sanity-check-2exited with state 256) could not update ice authority/home/user/.iceauthority Any ideas how I can work around this? Intel pent Duo 2.93, 4 GB ram ,ati graphics card -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations
Whatever. Regardless of what you say, it does show: · Which is faster, raidz, or a stripe of mirrors? · How much does raidz2 hurt performance compared to raidz? · Which is faster, raidz, or hardware raid 5? · Is a mirror twice as fast as a single disk for reading? Is a 3-way mirror 3x faster? And so on? I’ve seen and heard many people stating answers to these questions, and my results (not yet complete) already answer these questions, and demonstrate that all the previous assertions were partial truths. I don't think he was complaining, i think he was sayign he dind't need you to run iosnoop on the old version of ZFS. Solaris 10 has a really old version of ZFS. i know there are some pretty big differences in zfs versions from my own non scientific benchmarks. It would make sense that people wouldn't be as interested in benchmarks of solaris 10 ZFS seeing as there are literally hundreds scattered around the internet. I don't think he was telling you not to bother testing for your own purposes though. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations
On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Thomas Burgess wrote: Whatever. Regardless of what you say, it does show: · Which is faster, raidz, or a stripe of mirrors? · How much does raidz2 hurt performance compared to raidz? · Which is faster, raidz, or hardware raid 5? · Is a mirror twice as fast as a single disk for reading? Is a 3-way mirror 3x faster? And so on? I’ve seen and heard many people stating answers to these questions, and my results (not yet complete) already answer these questions, and demonstrate that all the previous assertions were partial truths. I don't think he was complaining, i think he was sayign he dind't need you to run iosnoop on the old version of ZFS. iosnoop runs fine on Solaris 10. I am sorta complaining, though. If you wish to advance ZFS, then use the latest bits. If you wish to discover the performance bugs in Solaris 10 that are already fixed in OpenSolaris, then go ahead, be my guest. Examples of improvements are: + intelligent prefetch algorithm is smarter + txg commit interval logic is improved + ZIL logic improved and added logbias property + stat() performance is improved + raidz write performance improved and raidz3 added + zfs caching improved + dedup changes touched many parts of ZFS + zfs_vdev_max_pending reduced and smarter + metaslab allocation improved + zfs write activity doesn't hog resource quite so much + a new scheduling class, SDC, added to better observe and manage ZFS thread scheduling + buffers can be shared between file system modules (fewer copies) As you can see, so much has changed, hopefully for the better, that running performance benchmarks on old software just isn't very interesting. NB. Oracle's Sun OpenStorage systems do not use Solaris 10 and if they did, they would not be competitive in the market. The notion that OpenSolaris is worthless and Solaris 10 rules is simply bull* Solaris 10 has a really old version of ZFS. i know there are some pretty big differences in zfs versions from my own non scientific benchmarks. It would make sense that people wouldn't be as interested in benchmarks of solaris 10 ZFS seeing as there are literally hundreds scattered around the internet. I don't think he was telling you not to bother testing for your own purposes though. Correct. -- richard ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] ZFS performance benchmarks in various configurations
Richard Elling wrote: ... As you can see, so much has changed, hopefully for the better, that running performance benchmarks on old software just isn't very interesting. NB. Oracle's Sun OpenStorage systems do not use Solaris 10 and if they did, they would not be competitive in the market. The notion that OpenSolaris is worthless and Solaris 10 rules is simply bull* OpenSolaris isn't worthless, but no way in hell would I run it in production, based on my experiences running it at home from b111 to now. The mpt driver problems are just one of many show stoppers (is that resolved yet, or do we still need magic /etc/system voodoo?). Of course, Solaris 10 couldn't properly drive the Marvell attached disks in an X4500 prior to U6 either, unless you ran an IDR (pretty inexcusable in a storage-centric server release). -- Carson ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Logging in problem B130-B132
Am 15.02.2010 14:10, schrieb Peter Jones: I have recently installed B130 and updated it.The new login screen is displayed however after a short period of use I am getting problems with login.Putting my username and password for single user acount the screen goes to normal wallpaper and hangs. The display message is (/user/lib/gconf-sanity-check-2exited with state 256) could not update ice authority/home/user/.iceauthority Any ideas how I can work around this? Intel pent Duo 2.93, 4 GB ram ,ati graphics card Sounds like a problem with the mystical auto cross mounting of userhomes from /export/homes/? to /homes/? I have had also some problems with this, no reproducible fix found so far, the biggest mess with this stuff is that the zfs snapshots are not useable via gui on this mounted homedirectories florian smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
Where can I download them? They're not installed and I can't find them on the .iso -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
They are not available in IPS. You can install the SVR4 packages on your system, but I am not sure what you need the live upgrade user package for. We don't use the old live upgrade on OpenSolaris, we have 'Snap Upgrade', which is managed via beadm(1M). Regards, sarah On 02/15/10 07:29 AM, Tom Buskey wrote: Where can I download them? They're not installed and I can't find them on the .iso ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
SUNWluu is a Live Upgrade Package and existed for Solaris 10 and Nevada. This technology has changed within OpenSolaris. See beadm(1M) on how to create and update boot environments. Detlef Tom Buskey schrieb am 15.02.10 15:29: Where can I download them? They're not installed and I can't find them on the .iso ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
Am 15.02.2010 15:38, schrieb Detlef Drewanz: SUNWluu is a Live Upgrade Package and existed for Solaris 10 and Nevada. This technology has changed within OpenSolaris. See beadm(1M) on how to create and update boot environments. Detlef Tom Buskey schrieb am 15.02.10 15:29: Where can I download them? They're not installed and I can't find them on the .iso ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org I would mention pkg image-update --be-name [how should your be named?] for just live upgrade, may be that is all what Tom needs? Florian smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
On 02/15/10 07:53 AM, Florian Manschwetus wrote: Am 15.02.2010 15:38, schrieb Detlef Drewanz: SUNWluu is a Live Upgrade Package and existed for Solaris 10 and Nevada. This technology has changed within OpenSolaris. See beadm(1M) on how to create and update boot environments. Detlef Tom Buskey schrieb am 15.02.10 15:29: Where can I download them? They're not installed and I can't find them on the .iso ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org I would mention pkg image-update --be-name [how should your be named?] for just live upgrade, may be that is all what Tom needs? Yes, a pkg image-update is all he needs to do an upgrade on his system. But, beadm(1M) provides other capabilities he may be interested in. Regards, sarah Florian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
They are not available in IPS. You can install the SVR4 packages on your system, but I am not sure what you need the live upgrade user package for. We don't use the old live upgrade on OpenSolaris, we have 'Snap Upgrade', which is managed via beadm(1M). I don't think they'll work properly either. If you have both an IPS and a SXDE environment you can change fairly easily. beadm will list zfs liveupgrade environments: BE Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created -- -- -- - -- --- osol_132 NR / 7.58G static 2010-02-15 12:04 snv_130 - - 5.18G static 2010-02-15 09:20 beadm misses some things needed for easily scripting (such as the lucurr command) but it can allows booting from an older environment. You can't boot a liveupgrade environment, you'll need to change the grubmenu (x86) and the bootfs in your zpool. I'm currently upgrading all my liveupgrade systems to Opensolaris; I can do this more or less automatically, except for editing the grub menu. There were some issues, such as the isp device driver not available in OpenSolaris (I need it to boot my SF 6800) It took me a few hours over the weekend to create and test the scripts. My mechanism to upgrade from SXDE to OpenSolaris is: - make sure you have rpool and you can boot from that environment; it needs to have room for two entire boot environments. - snapshot clone / - save all the volative/editable files - remove all the sxde packages using pkgrm (removing all the post/pre remove scripts and all the r. scripts as they don't always work properly - rm etc/svc/deathrow - install the SVr4 packages for IPS (download ips gate, compile it) - create an image (pkg image-create ...) and install all the packages - copy all the system files from the current root to the IPS root (including your repository) - change bootfs in rpool - reboot - and you'll see some issues about CDE missing but these are then gone from the repository. Issues I ran across are: - IPS will die when something weird happens (e.g., if you still have a /usr/openwin *directory* then IPS bails out and needs to be restart after removing the offending file; then it will need to download everything (???) - IPS just install everything; you most for install SUNWcsd else other packages will fail because /etc/group doesn't exist. - IPS uses quite a bit of memory, systems with less then 2GB will be uncomfortable when running IPS. - when I made an error and I wanted to the packages then all directories with some local content were moved to var/adm/pkg/ lost+found (this is where /usr/local was moved to) - error reporting is not always helpful - building the recent ips gate seems to install some files in the wrong location. If you run SXDE from ufs, then, unfortunately, you will need to convert. Liveupgrade allows that (as I have done with most of my machines). If your root is a mirror, then it's probably even easier: just split the mirror and use the second half. I think you'll need at least 20GB for the root (two ZFS boot environments, with compression, most everything installed) Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
I should have said what I'm trying to do. I install b131 on a 40 GB drive. After the install, I put a 2nd 40 GB drive in to mirror. The mirror won't work because the 2nd drive is 37.26 GB instead of 38.26 GB. I'm using less then 9 GB :-( To fix this, I want to: move the OS to the smaller drive boot from the smaller drive destroy the pool on the larger drive mirror the OS onto the 2 drives. Right now I'm trying this: # zpool create pool0 c3d0 # beadm create -p pool0 A Unable to create A. BE copy failed. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Logging in problem B130-B132
Peter: There are some problems with build 130-132 with the gdm user not being setup properly. There are also similar issues that can happen depending on how you have updated your system. See here: http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=13437 You can fix this by making sure the following configuration files are set up properly. /etc/passwd should have this line: gdm:x:50:50:GDM Reserved UID:/var/lib/gdm: /etc/shadow should have this line: gdm:*LK*::: /etc/group should have this line: gdm::50: If these are not set up properly, you can fix the problem by making sure the files have the exact lines shown above. A few things you can try if this does not fix the problem: 1) After entering your username on the login screen, notice the panel on the bottom of the screen allows you to specify the session. Change this to xterm, and enter your password. When the terminal comes up, then run this command: $ dbus-launch --exit-with-session gnome-session --debug This might highlight some errors or warnings that might explain the problem. 2) Try editing /etc/gdm/custom.conf so it has these lines: [debug] Enable=true Then reboot, and when the login screen shows up, make it hang. Then review the gdm-related debug output you should find at the end of your syslog file (/var/adm/messages), and see if there are any error or warning messages that might highlight what the problem could be. Let us know if this helps! Thanks, Brian I have recently installed B130 and updated it.The new login screen is displayed however after a short period of use I am getting problems with login.Putting my username and password for single user acount the screen goes to normal wallpaper and hangs. The display message is (/user/lib/gconf-sanity-check-2exited with state 256) could not update ice authority/home/user/.iceauthority Any ideas how I can work around this? Intel pent Duo 2.93, 4 GB ram ,ati graphics card ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Using cell as modem
I wonder... will this work with a Palm Pre over a USB tether? If I plug my phone in with usbnet enabled within the Palm Pre, the phone's ethernet gadget is recognized by the Driver Utility. It would be super if I could get this to work. Thanks! Matt -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
Tom Buskey schrieb am 15.02.10 16:29: I should have said what I'm trying to do. I install b131 on a 40 GB drive. After the install, I put a 2nd 40 GB drive in to mirror. The mirror won't work because the 2nd drive is 37.26 GB instead of 38.26 GB. I'm using less then 9 GB :-( To fix this, I want to: move the OS to the smaller drive boot from the smaller drive destroy the pool on the larger drive mirror the OS onto the 2 drives. Right now I'm trying this: # zpool create pool0 c3d0 # beadm create -p pool0 A Unable to create A. BE copy failed. Hmm, without a more detailed error message it's hard to say what went wrong. Have you seen an error message in /var/log/beadm ? Maybe you can try this ? beadm create curr...@now beadm create curr...@now -p pool0 A Detlef ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Because I don't know where to find help
On 02/15/10 07:16 AM, Chad Welsh wrote: here is the staroffice support page http://supportforum.Sun.COM/ see if it works for you cause it is a blank page for me A couple of clicks from the home page I found this: http://sunsolve.sun.com/show.do?target=patches%2Fxprod-StarOfficenav=pub-patches Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Software is free. Service is not. Mike Rocha and Tim Chou.
Ken Gunderson wrote: Sun.COM types just don't get it Us ignorant Sun.COM types don't matter anymore anyway. It's the Oracle.COM types who make these decisions now. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Because I don't know where to find help
On 02/15/10 11:36 AM, Paul Gress wrote: On 02/15/10 07:16 AM, Chad Welsh wrote: here is the staroffice support pagehttp://supportforum.Sun.COM/ see if it works for you cause it is a blank page for me A couple of clicks from the home page I found this: http://sunsolve.sun.com/show.do?target=patches%2Fxprod-StarOfficenav=pub-patches I just checked trying to download, and your right. You need a support contract. I guess you'll have to do what I do, get Openoffice. I get the development branch, a new release about every 2 weeks, just like Opensolaris. ftp://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net/pub/openoffice/extended/developer/ It usually comes out there a few days before it's officially announced. The announcement page would be here: http://download.openoffice.org/index.html Follow the link for developer snapshots. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Using cell as modem
Yes, it should! As mentioned here during the last days, check (the archives): See http://blogs.sun.com/chrisg/entry/mobile_internet_on_opensolaris Matthias You (Matthew Nawrocki) wrote: I wonder... will this work with a Palm Pre over a USB tether? If I plug my phone in with usbnet enabled within the Palm Pre, the phone's ethernet gadget is recognized by the Driver Utility. It would be super if I could get this to work. Thanks! Matt -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Matthias Pfützner | Tel.: +49 700 PFUETZNER | Am Anfang wäre das Stück Lichtenbergstr.73 | mailto:matth...@pfuetzner.de | schnell zu Ende. D-64289 Darmstadt | AIM: pfuetz, ICQ: 300967487 | (21.10.93) Germany | http://www.pfuetzner.de/matthias/ | Hellmuth Karasek ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] SUNWluu packages for b132
Tom Buskey schrieb am 15.02.10 16:29: I should have said what I'm trying to do. I install b131 on a 40 GB drive. After the install, I put a 2nd 40 GB drive in to mirror. The mirror won't work because the 2nd drive is 37.26 GB instead of 38.26 GB. I'm using less then 9 GB :-( To fix this, I want to: move the OS to the smaller drive boot from the smaller drive destroy the pool on the larger drive mirror the OS onto the 2 drives. Right now I'm trying this: # zpool create pool0 c3d0 # beadm create -p pool0 A Unable to create A. BE copy failed. Hmm, without a more detailed error message it's hard to say what went wrong. Have you seen an error message in /var/log/beadm ? $ less /var/log/beadm/A/create.log.20100215_102828 Attempting to create A Unable to create A. BE copy failed. Not much better Maybe you can try this ? beadm create curr...@now beadm create curr...@now -p pool0 A $beadm create opensolari...@now $cat /var/log/beadm/opensolaris...@now/create.log.20100215_121007 Attempting to create opensolari...@now $beadm create -e opensolari...@now -p pool0 A $cat /var/log/beadm/A/create.log.20100215_121049 Attempting to create A Unable to create A. BE copy failed. Not much help there either :-( -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Failsafe boot for Opensolaris 2009.06 ?
On 02/15/10 01:53 AM, Hugh McIntyre wrote: Never mind. The immediate problem is fixed. Although it would be useful to know if failsafe boot is possible in future. See bug 1856. http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1856 Dave ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Software is free. Service is not. Mike Rocha and Tim Chou.
On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 21:10 -0800, Erik Trimble wrote: Ken Gunderson wrote: On Sun, 2010-02-14 at 13:27 -0500, Dennis Clarke wrote: Preferentially, I think a reasonable thing for Oracle to do with Solaris is the following: (1) Quit giving away Solaris 10. Instead, provide several different Support Contract levels for Solaris 10, with a very basic one providing /solely/ security patches for some nominal fee ($100/yr/server). Other gradiations as desired, of course. Sun.COM types just don't get it - Sun _had_ to start giving away Solaris 10 because outside of Suna and old silver back Unix geeks in the financial service sector datacenters Solaris was becoming increasingly irrelevant. Those who didn't grow up on Unix in the 80's grew up on MS in the 90's and they're the ones running the show in much of the business world now. Some of this latter group discovered Linux and the *BSD's when they were in college. A subset of those started up what became the largest sites on the Internet; Yahoo (FreeBSD) and Google (Linux) using stacks of white box pc grade hardware. Later some big iron did find it's way into those shops but those aren't the stories you hear about. And, from a software-vendor standpoint, does anyone make money on Yahoo/Google/Hotmail/etc. using Linux or *BSD? Oops. Nope. They're a huge boon to the end-user, but neither of them helped any outside vendor to any extent. At best, you get a reference customer to say that X is using a product of yours, but I hardly think that's Solaris' (or AIX, or HPUX) problem at this point. HP-UX what?? Anybody still using that anymore? Still even under development? When was the last time anyone saw a job posting for an HP-UX admin? I was, perhaps naively, optimistic Solaris wouldn't go down that path. Interesting aside, I am familiar with the case of foreign government that was HP-UX based shop for many, many years. They became concerned about HP's long term viability during Fiorina's reign of stupidity and put a big SuperDome order on hold whilst waiting for things to shake out in the wash a bit. The decision was made to transition to IBM/AIX and not invest further in HP. I was having discussion with the person responsible for the buy recommendation and suggested Why not Solaris?. Response from this old unix greybeard was that Sun would be history inside of ten years as we bantered that one back and forth a bit. That was circa 2000 - 2002, iirc, and he's long since retired, but looks like his prediction wasn't too far off the mark. And speaking of AIX, more recently I am familiar, although less intimately, with a situation a bit closer to home where Solaris was under serious consideration for large deployment but similar to above the decision was put on the back burner for the past year whilst waiting to see what settled out. Interestingly IBM wins again. Hmm Perhaps I'd better learn AIX In order to regain much lost traction Solaris NEEDS mindshare. Where there are LOTS of other *nices available for free you'd better make your's away for free as well if you want to have a chance in hell in the competition for that mind share. It's like when Bill Gates tried to ignore the reality of the Internet and write it off as a passing fad because it was competing with internal proprietary network protocols that he was hoping would sway the day. Well.. that didn't work so he was smart enough to read the hand writing on the wall. I agree - giving away Solaris 10 was a great way to gain market traction again. That said, and seeing how Oracle seems to have a more product/revenue-stream focus, I think the try-it-to-get-hooked version is now OpenSolaris, NOT Solaris 10. I like to run the analogy between RedHat Enterprise Linux and the Fedora project, as far as support goes. You can't get support for Fedora from RedHat, but it's a fabulous way to get intro'd to the RedHat-way of doing things. For commercial use, you go buy RHEL. What I'm saying is that I think the most likely scenario is that Solaris 10 remains a commercially-supported and distributed product with likely no unpaid/free support or distribution, while a freely-available but unsupported OpenSolaris provides the introductory hook for the whole set. Because, let's face it, introductory stuff had better have the nicest, newest, neatest things in it to get people to try it. And that's OpenSolaris, NOT Solaris 10. Nope. I emphatically disagree. It needs to be Solaris 10 + security patches. Running Solaris in production and successfully growing one's business is what's going to lead to the NEED and CAPABILITY to buy SPARC hardware and support contracts. And even in instances where it does not, it still increases Solaris exposure to more jr. sysadmins, etc. and thereby increases likelihood of future deployments elsewhere as they advance in their careers. Once
Re: [osol-discuss] Missing drivers in OpenSolaris.
I've noticed one particular is absent from OpenSolaris; this was a bit unfortunate for the SF 6800 I was upgrading. What other drivers are currently not distributed with OpenSolaris? I'm sure there's a list but I couldn't find it. I have noticed that a number of wireless nic drivers exist for OpenSolaris on x86 but not on Sparc. The ones that were really a concern were rum, rwd and rwn. I was able to get the sources but the process of making those RaLink wireless cards work on Sparc seemed non-trivial. -- Dennis ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Missing drivers in OpenSolaris.
What other drivers are currently not distributed with OpenSolaris? E.g. Adaptec *adp* drivers are missing in OpenSolaris http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=112 http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=7976 I think there was the idea to make them available via the extra repository, but it seems that has not yet happened. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Fwd: Missing drivers in OpenSolaris.
the nfo driver for the Ethernet in NVidia cards is not included, but is available to build -- Forwarded message -- From: Jürgen Keil jrgn.k...@googlemail.com Date: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Missing drivers in OpenSolaris. To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org What other drivers are currently not distributed with OpenSolaris? E.g. Adaptec *adp* drivers are missing in OpenSolaris http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=112 http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=7976 I think there was the idea to make them available via the extra repository, but it seems that has not yet happened. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- David ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris randomly hangs (SNV132)
Hi, I recently decided to go with OpenSolaris for our backup storage system. However after a few days (or hours) the system seems to hang. I upgraded to SNV131 to use ZFS deduplication and RAIDZ2. In the mean time I updated the software to SNV132. The hangs have been occurring a few days after upgrade in both versions. In attachment an open top session when the system hangs screenshot taken through the IPMI interface. The only process that is actively running is an rdiff-backup process - a Python-based backup system that makes differential backups. The scripts get kicked off by a cron job. Sometimes it runs through and does a backup, other times it just hangs. There are also SSH and SFTP sessions once in a while where people or scripts upload/download/delete various stuff. At the moment of the screenshot hang no SSH sessions were running but they have happened when SSH sessions were open as well. The backup destination is a ZFS pool with the following configuration: pool: rpool state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM rpool ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t0d0s0 ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors pool: zpool1 state: ONLINE scrub: scrub in progress for 0h26m, 0.01% done, 7286h37m to go config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM zpool1 ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t0d1 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t0d2 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t0d3 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t0d4 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t0d5 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t0d6 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t0d7 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t1d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t1d1 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t1d2 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t1d3 ONLINE 0 0 0 c7t1d4 ONLINE 0 0 0 spares c10t3d7 AVAIL errors: No known data errors zfs get all NAMEPROPERTY VALUE SOURCE zpool1 type filesystem - zpool1 creation Wed Jan 27 10:48 2010 - zpool1 used 7.95T - zpool1 available 12.5T - zpool1 referenced62.1K - zpool1 compressratio 1.00x - zpool1 mounted yes- zpool1 quota none default zpool1 reservation none default zpool1 recordsize128K default zpool1 mountpoint/zpool1default zpool1 sharenfs offdefault zpool1 checksum on default zpool1 compression offdefault zpool1 atime on default zpool1 devices on default zpool1 exec on default zpool1 setuidon default zpool1 readonly offdefault zpool1 zoned offdefault zpool1 snapdir hidden default zpool1 aclmode groupmask default zpool1 aclinheritrestricted default zpool1 canmount on default zpool1 shareiscsioffdefault zpool1 xattr on default zpool1 copies1 default zpool1 version 3 - zpool1 utf8only off- zpool1 normalization none - zpool1 casesensitivity sensitive - zpool1 vscan offdefault zpool1 nbmandoffdefault zpool1 sharesmb offdefault zpool1 refquota none default zpool1 refreservationnone default zpool1 primarycache alldefault zpool1 secondarycachealldefault zpool1 usedbysnapshots 0 - zpool1 usedbydataset 62.1K - zpool1 usedbychildren7.95T - zpool1 usedbyrefreservation 0 - zpool1 logbias latencydefault zpool1 dedup on local zpool1 mlslabel none default Another issue is the scrubbing taking forever. I started a scrub last week and I believe there is a bug around that already with the de-duplication feature.
Re: [osol-discuss] Thoughts on SATA vs SCSI Hard Drives
It all depends really on the usage. If you're using a database and IOPS is important, you'll see a significant increase. If you're running a backup storage array, capacity/$ is important. SAS/SCSI hard drives at 15000rpm are of course a bit faster than 7200rpm SATA/SAS/SCSI drives but if your network is a bottle neck, it doesn't really matter whether you put in 5400rpm drives or SSD's. Also with RAID (or RAID-like systems like ZFS) and a lot of hard drives, the bottle neck really shifts towards the controllers and/or the bus it's connected to. So you should analyze why the decision was made to use SATA disks (usually price) and whether the cost of SAS drives (300% increase in costs, 50% increase in speed, 300% decrease in potential capacity) is really worth it. Benchmark your system and the disks you're looking at and see whether it's worth it. IMHO: for most uses not, attaching/enabling caches or getting more memory could increase your responses significantly for way less. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] What currently makes me feel some pain with osol
Florian Manschwetus wrote: - support recursive group membership resolution based on DN as membership value, I was told that the problem with membership limit is fixed (now it is dynamic list, no longer a static list), so extend nss_ldap or get nss_ad working in way that it could be used as complementing part for idmap (use the information from ad about numeric uid/gid, aso) I'm not sure I fully follow what you're suggesting, but I think it's covered by CR 6655307, which I'm working on. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Missing drivers in OpenSolaris.
The missing driver in OpenSolaris that ticks me off the most (as a sysadmin) is the missing baseboard management controller (bmc) driver. This bug here really rained on my parade: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6799081 Do you think that if I just copy these three files over from a SXCE snv_129 DVD: /kernel/drv/amd64/bmc f none 0755 root sys 35984 42138 1225816778 SUNWckr /kernel/drv/bmc f none 0755 root sys 23684 5173 1225816787 SUNWckr /kernel/drv/bmc.conf f none 0644 root sys 177 14089 1225787326 SUNWckr to my snv_129 OpenSolaris server that BMC will just start magically working? Or are there a bunch of complicated steps that I need to do at the command line to get the OpenSolaris kernel to use the SXCE BMC drivers? Maybe copying the files and a reboot is all that is required? I'm really not that eager to hose this OpenSolaris snv_129 server and cause down time since the developers who are using zones inside of it seem to be happy with it (for now). OpenSolaris snv_129 is working great for me after I worked around this zone installation bug: http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=13493 and this apache bug: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6907454 https://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=445511 Just two bugs to workaround for snv_129! AFAIK that's a record for least amount of important bugs in a /dev build which is why I'm sticking with snv_129 for now. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Can OpenSolaris run linux applications?
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+brandz/applications I hope that helps. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Because I don't know where to find help
this makes no sense to me I just paid for my copy of Star Office 9 for Mac OS X when it first came out just like a good drone would do, and now I have to pay for security patches? WTF? YOUR NEW COMPANY IS WORSE THAN MICRO$HIT!! GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE DOUBLE DIP TO SUPPORT AN ALREADY PAID FOR PRODUCT THAT IS ALWAYS GONNA NEED SECURITY AND CODE CORRECTION UPDATES? ORACLE BLOWS A$$ -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Because I don't know where to find help
On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 22:49 -0800, Chad Welsh wrote: this makes no sense to me I just paid for my copy of Star Office 9 for Mac OS X when it first came out just like a good drone would do, and now I have to pay for security patches? WTF? YOUR NEW COMPANY IS WORSE THAN MICRO$HIT!! GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE DOUBLE DIP TO SUPPORT AN ALREADY PAID FOR PRODUCT THAT IS ALWAYS GONNA NEED SECURITY AND CODE CORRECTION UPDATES? ORACLE BLOWS A$$ It's the new order. Sun has been assimilated. You're getting a taste of why many people hate Oracle. They carry a big club. Get used to it. That said, this is probably not the best place for venting. Perhaps target your complaint at Oracle Corporate Communications. Coincidentally I happen to have Karen Tillman's email address handy: karen.till...@oracle.com -- Ken Gunderson kgund...@teamcool.net ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
