Re: [osol-discuss] Hardware Concern

2011-07-28 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Jeff Goldrich  wrote:

> Is there any work on expanding the base hardware (motherboards, chipsets)
> that OI can operate on? Most modern OS's can be successfully installed on
> sandybridge processors and chip sets. Can we expect compatibility in a
> timely manor or will be forever using older systems? This can be a barrier
> to entry in the foreseeable future.
>

Oracle is primarily concerned with making sure that Solaris will support the
hardware that they are selling. Sometimes you can buy a system or components
from other vendors use which the same components as well.

Illumos will hopefully be better about adding more hardware support.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Can not install from external usb cd drive?

2011-05-10 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Orvar Korvar
 wrote:
> I attached an external usb cd drive and tried to boot from the S11E cd, but I 
> just get thrown into GRUB. I have tried to boot from winxp and win7 install 
> cd, and it worked fine.

I had trouble booting from a USB drive when there was a second USB
drive plugged in.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Building a storage server, need some advice

2011-04-27 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 1:55 AM, ENJOLRAS Fabien
 wrote:
> I would like to build a high density storage server which will be evolutive. 
> Here is the hardware I have available:
> -Norco RPC-4224 chassis (rackable 4U with x24 3.5 SATA disk hotswap backplane)
> -Tyan Tempest i5000VF motherboard with dual 3 Ghz Xeon and 8GB ECC DDR2

You should verify that the motherboard and devices are supported. If
it doesn't use Intel NICs onboard, you may want to consider getting
some. Consider adding more memory.

> My question was, how can I grow a raidz3 array with more drives? What is the 
> most secure and reliable method without the need to backup all the data 
> already stored?

You can't grow a raidz vdev, but you can add more vdevs to the pool.

> I've thought of creating a first raidz3 vdev with 6 drives, the adding up to 
> 4 6-drive raidz3 vdevs. But this way I lose a lot of storage on the base 48TB?

A 6-drive vdev is sub-optimal. You'd be better off going with (2^n +
p) drives, where p is the amount used for parity. For raidz3, that's
5, 7, 11, 19 and for raidz2, it's 4, 6, 10, 18. The sweet spot is the
middle of the range.

If you want to optimize for space vs. performance, three 7-drive vdevs
will give you 24TB, or two 11-drive vdevs will yield 32TB. Both
configurations leave bays available for spares.

If you want slightly higher performance, you can use more vdevs. 4 x
6-drive raidz2 vdevs will give you 32TB of space and should have
roughly twice the random iops performance of the 2x11 configuration
above.

For much higher perfomance, 12x mirrored vdevs will give you 24TB and
roughly 4 times the random iops of the 3x7 configuration. It's also
easiest to grow a zpool that's made of mirrors because you can simply
add two more drives rather than enough to make up an additional vdev.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Need driver for SATA 6 gbps?

2011-04-10 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Orvar Korvar
 wrote:
> I am thinking of buying an SSD, OCZ Vertex 3, which has some sick 
> performance. To that I need to buy an SATA 6gbps card, because my old mobo 
> offers only 3 gbps. Do I need to install Solaris drivers first, or can I use 
> the 6 gbps card without drivers?

You will need drivers.

The Marvell SATA chips have been supported for a while in the base OS.
Some SAS 6G cards as well. Someone posted a really nice comparison of
supported cards and bus speeds a while back, it may be worth looking
for.

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Re: [osol-discuss] HELP!! SATA 6G controller for OSOL

2010-07-20 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:15 PM, valrh...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I don't know enough about either of these cards to know which driver the 
> Marvell chip would use, or where to go get it. Can anyone point me in the 
> right direction?

I'm pretty sure that it should use the AHCI driver. You may need to
add the card to /etc/driver_aliases?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Trouble detecting Seagate LP 2TB drives

2010-06-26 Thread Brandon High
For those wanting more details, it's in a flag day from 2009/9/11:

http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+on/2008091102

FreeNAS worked fine with the system and drives, which made for a nice
fallback plan.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Trouble detecting Seagate LP 2TB drives

2010-06-25 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Brandon High  wrote:
> I recently installed a Seagate LP drive in an Atom ICH7 based system. The
> drive is showing up dmesg but not available in format. Is this a known
> problem? Is there a work around for it?

I just found an older thread where this was discussed. Apparently
32-bit kernels can't support drives over 1GB.

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[osol-discuss] Trouble detecting Seagate LP 2TB drives

2010-06-25 Thread Brandon High
I recently installed a Seagate LP drive in an Atom ICH7 based system. The
drive is showing up dmesg but not available in format. Is this a known
problem? Is there a work around for it?

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Re: [osol-discuss] SNV_142 Test DVD & Blastwave's AMP stack

2010-06-21 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Hernan Saltiel  wrote:
> This will (maybe) reproduce the expected behaviour when ZFS and ZPOOL
> upgrades with new official bits.

It's also the point of using a boot environment, however upgrading the
zpool or zfs version will render the pool unreadable to the older BE.

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Re: [osol-discuss] SNV_142 Test DVD & Blastwave's AMP stack

2010-06-21 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:57 AM, ken mays  wrote:
> You don't need snv_b134 anymore and you can update other areas as you see fit.

I'd recommend not upgrading your zfs and zpool versions and keeping
your b134 boot environment around to make sure you can update to the
next official OpenSolaris release.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Upgrade to snv_134 dev branch errors

2010-06-05 Thread Brandon High
Check the snv134 release notes. The warnings you saw are mentioned in them.

If you're doing a clean install, you may want to grab the b134 install CD
and start with that rather than upgrade from 111.

Sent from my Nexus One.

On Jun 5, 2010 10:49 PM, "Matt Connolly"  wrote:
> I've just done a clean install of 2009.06 followed by an update of the
stable branch. Next I've made a new BE, booted into it and updated to dev
branch according to instructions at
http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/en/index.shtml
>
> The update created appeared to succeed, but had these error messages:
>
>
> Update Phase 31993/32054 driver (aggr) upgrade (removal of
policy'read_priv_set=net_rawaccess write_priv_set=net_rawaccess) failed:
minor node spec required.
> Update Phase 32015/32054 driver (softmac) upgrade (removal of
policy'read_priv_set=net_rawaccess write_priv_set=net_rawaccess) failed:
minor node spec required.
> Update Phase 32016/32054 driver (vnic) upgrade (removal of
policy'read_priv_set=net_rawaccess write_priv_set=net_rawaccess) failed:
minor node spec required.
> Update Phase 32029/32054 driver (ibd) upgrade (removal of
policy'read_priv_set=net_rawaccess write_priv_set=net_rawaccess) failed:
minor node spec required.
> Update Phase 32036/32054 driver (dnet) upgrade (removal of
policy'read_priv_set=net_rawaccess write_priv_set=net_rawaccess) failed:
minor node spec required.
> Update Phase 32037/32054 driver (elxl) upgrade (removal of
policy'read_priv_set=net_rawaccess write_priv_set=net_rawaccess) failed:
minor node spec required.
> Update Phase 32038/32054 driver (iprb) upgrade (removal of
policy'read_priv_set=net_rawaccess write_priv_set=net_rawaccess) failed:
minor node spec required.
>
>
> Is any of this a concern?
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[osol-discuss] Zones with other virtualization techs on the same host

2010-06-05 Thread Brandon High
Is it possible to use zones and xen or virtual box simultaneously on the
same host?

Sent from my Nexus One.
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Re: [osol-discuss] AHCI errors

2010-06-04 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Bruno Damour  wrote:
> I scrubbed all my zfs pools, no problem detected. Everything seems to be 
> working.
>
> Any idea of what is happening ?

Check your cabling.

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Re: [osol-discuss] How to set NFS permissions

2010-06-04 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Duncan Groenewald
 wrote:
> I can't find any useful information on how to grant access to an NFS share.  
> Any ideas on how to give a user on a WIndows PC access to the NFS share.  
> They don't have a login on the OpenSolaris NFS server.

You can set access via the sharenfs property. For instance,
# zfs set sharenfs=...@192.168.1.0/24 foo
will allow read/write access to the 192.168.1.0 subnet.

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Re: [osol-discuss] install on and boot from 3ware 9650 raid controller

2010-05-30 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
 wrote:
> The reason I say this, is ZFS is both faster and more secure than a 
> "hardware" mirror. Unless you plan to use 100% CPU on numbercrunching _and_ 
> have heavy I/O, ZFS' "software" RAID is better.

Using one LUN per disk on the 3ware and enabling the battery backed
cache will help performance. You can then use zfs raidz or mirroring
on top of that.

If you don't have a BBU for your controller, you're better off using a
fully AHCI compatible controller, such as the Intel ICH6 (or higher),
AMD SB600 (or higher) or a Marvell 88SE912x based card.

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Re: [osol-discuss] install on and boot from 3ware 9650 raid controller

2010-05-30 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:36 AM, pitutek  wrote:
> Hi,
> I have 2 hdds and 3ware 9650 Raid controller installed in my server. I wanted 
> to install OpenSol 2009.06 on Raid1 created be 3ware. LiveCD doesnt contain 
> driver for it but 3ware/LSI site does, so I:

The 3ware driver was integrated in b125 or so I think. Any recent dev
build should support it.

> - copied driver and installed it `add_drv` (`format` shoved my disk created 
> by 3ware)
> - installed OpenSol on that disk
> After reboot system couldnt boot "cannot mount root".

Well yeah, you installed it into the LiveCD environment.

> I reinstalled OpenSol and just before final reboot:
> - mounted my drive to /c and there was no 3ware driver in 
> /c/etc/driver_aliases (it means LiveCD didnt copy driver installed in its 
> env.)
> - copied driver and installed it via "drv_add -b /c ..."
> - driver was in /c/etc/driver_aliases and /c/etc/drive_to_major
> After reboot system couldnt boot "cannot mount root".

You'll need to do more than that. Don't use mount, use beadm. It does
other magic. You'll need to update the boot environment after
installing the driver.

# beadm mount  /c
.. install driver ..
# bootadm update-archive -R /c

> How to install it...? Im out of ideas..

The best bet is to use b134 from the /dev repository. It has a lot of
fixes, as well as the 3ware drivers.

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Re: [osol-discuss] samba version

2010-05-30 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:06 PM, John Ryan  wrote:
> Why not CIFS then? - It's streaks ahead of Samba

Samba has some advantages, such as the ability to act as domain
controller or AD master. The native cifs server certainly wins on
performance, support for VSS and ACLs.

As with everything, I supposed it depends on what your requirements are.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Dev repository last catalog update is March 6, 2010?

2010-05-30 Thread Brandon High
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Paul Harper  wrote:
> Whatever happened to 'Release early and release often'?
>
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/ar01s04.html
>
> 2010.?? will be full of preventable bugs because users will not have been 
> giving feedback to the developers.

2010.05 (or 2010.06 at this point) is going to be based on snv_134b,
which is the current /dev build with critical fixes backported.

For my uses, 134 has been pretty stable thus far. There are a few
show-stopper bugs (like the failure to boot when part of a mirrored
root is missing) but I haven not encountered any other major bugs.

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Re: [osol-discuss] RAMDISK performance

2010-05-25 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Ed Pate  wrote:
> Does "TestPool" use dedup?  If so, turn it off and try again.

Or compression. It turns out that /dev/zero compresses extremely well.

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[osol-discuss] Errors from USB flash drives used for booting.

2010-05-18 Thread Brandon High
I'm getting the following errors when booting from flash:
WARNING: /p...@0,0/pci1043,8...@1d,7/stor...@2/d...@0,0 (sd1):
Check Condition on REQUEST SENSE

It will eventually boot, but it's slow. It's also filling up
/var/adm/messages. If I boot off of a normal disk, there's no problem.

Any idea on what's causing it? I suspect it's just that the flash is
too slow and something is timing out.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Corporation SunOS 5.11 snv_138 Apr. 15, 2010

2010-04-30 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Dennis Clarke  wrote:
>
> Oh look ... snv_138 appears quite suddenly out of nowhere .. cool.

Any idea when it'll be on http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/ ?

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[osol-discuss] pkg property pursue-latest

2010-03-29 Thread Brandon High
Is there any documentation about what the pursue-latest property for pkg
does? I've noticed that it's set by default, but I can't find a description
of what it does.

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[osol-discuss] b132 bug list?

2010-02-05 Thread Brandon High
Is there a list of bugs in b132? I'd like to know if the sharesmb
name= bug has been fixed before upgrading.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Need to find files with in name. How?

2010-02-03 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Orvar Korvar
 wrote:
> Argh, I have to move several TB of data back and forth, and I dont have more 
> disk space. There are many people out there, not knowing this. We should tell 
> them somehow, in the man page for CIFS or something similar. This is not easy 
> to know if you just want to setup an OpenSolaris server for home usage, they 
> dont likely read every page in all the manuals.

It's called out in the ZFS man pages.

When I moved my data from a Ubuntu host to my OpenSolaris host, I'd
just copied all the files into one filesystem (which had default
properties). When I started to set up cifs shares, I created the new
datasets (with utf8only, etc. set) and moved the files to them.
Filenames that were not utf8 can't be created on the new datasets so
at the end of the first pass all that was left was a few files with
illegal characters. I fixed those with convmv and was done.

Moving the files kept the space utilization roughly equal. Because the
data had only recently been moved to zfs, I didn't have snapshots that
I cared about retaining.

> So I should set utf8only, casesensitivity and normalization. What more 
> properties should I set do you suggest, before I start moving data back and 
> forth?

Those are the only 3 that you can't change after the dataset is created.

Setting atime to off is probably a good idea.

> And to which values do you have set the properties to?

All the smb shares on my host are under tank/export/samba, eg:
tank/export/samba/music, tank/export/samba/movies - This lets me set
the properties once and inherit the correct values into any new
datasets.

NAME   PROPERTY VALUE  SOURCE
tank/export/samba  utf8only on -
tank/export/samba  normalizationformD  -
tank/export/samba  casesensitivity  mixed  -

'normalization' is the only one that you may need to change. If you're
only use Windows clients, then formC will probably be fine. If you're
using Mac or Linux clients as well as Windows, then formD is a better
choice. This is just what I've gleaned from searching and reading up
myself. I'm not sure what formKC or formKD do differently.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Need to find files with in name. How?

2010-02-02 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Orvar Korvar
 wrote:
> So I have lots of files with weird characters in the name. Those , , 
> etc characters are listed as "?", for instance "Making?Food?Recipe.doc". The 
> version of CIFS I use, (b125) does not allow listing of files with those 
> characters in WinXP clients. I must stay with b125 because of issues in later 
> builds.

You might want to set the 'utf8only' property to true, which will
prevent this from happening in the future. It can only be set when the
filesystem is created, however.

If this is volume primarily shared out to Windows or Mac clients via
CIFS, you may want to set the 'casesensitivity' and 'normalization'
properties as well. Both of these can only be set when the filesystem
is created, too.

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[osol-discuss] Fan control for ASUS M2N-LR (nForce 570)

2009-11-19 Thread Brandon High
I recently installed OpenSolaris on a M2N-LR. The board has several
PWM fan plugs, but they don't seem to be working.

Under Linux, the case fans would slow down after booting. After
installing snv_125, the fans have been running at full speed.

Is there a package that I need to install to get the fan controls
working, or a configuration setting that needs to be changed?

-B

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[osol-discuss] Updating to a specific branch revision

2009-09-26 Thread Brandon High
What's the correct procedure for updating to a specific branch
revision? I've got a system that's at snv_111 which I would like to
update to snv_118. I would like to avoid 121-123 due to the raidz
checksum bugs.

My understanding is that I need to create a new BE, then update that
BE with the new packages.

I can create a new package with:
# beadm create snv_118@"$(date)"

but how do I tell pkg to update the new BE? A command like:
# pkg install ent...@0.5.11-118
will update the current BE, which is not what I want.

-B

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[osol-discuss] Host becomes unreachable during high network utilization

2009-08-17 Thread Brandon High
I have a small NAS box based on an Intel D945GCLF2 Atom 330 board. It
has a Realtek 8111C NIC using the rge driver. I'm running build
snv_118.

During periods of high network traffic, such as copying large files
over SMB to or from the system, the host becomes unreachable. It
doesn't respond to pings and all open connections are closed. After
about a minute or two, the host becomes reachable again.

SUNWvbox and SUNWvboxkern were installed - I've removed them but
haven't tried to reproduce the problem yet.

Any ideas on what else to look at? I suspect it's the rge driver, but
I was hoping Sun had fixed the problem by now.

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Re: [osol-discuss] mutex_lock_queue

2008-05-28 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Nishant Arora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> request your urgent help on this problem, this issue is blocking an urgent 
> market release. We are stuck!!
>
> server details now as below
> /etc >cat release
> Solaris 10 11/06 s10s_u3wos_10 SPARC
> Copyright 2006 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
> Use is subject to license terms.
> Assembled 14 November 2006
>
> /etc >uname -a
> SunOS sunqz04 5.10 Generic_118833-33 sun4v sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-T200

This forum is for OpenSolaris. It is not a support channel for Solaris 10.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Help building a File server

2008-05-19 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 2:24 PM, vijay Rajah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm planning to install the OS from a USB stick to a USB stick !!. Is this 
> possible?. If so, can you give me some pointers.

I used a device similar to this when building a Linux based NAS a few
years ago. Since it uses the ATA controller, there's nothing special
to do, it just looks like an hard disk.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186038

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Re: [osol-discuss] NAS - which OS version,

2008-05-14 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Michael A. Nunes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Based upon your message here I considered purchasing a 690G based 
> motherboard, but when I investigated further I was unable to find any such 
> motherboard that had 6xSATA connectors. Can you please tell me which 
> motherboards you were able to find that have 6xSATA and are based upon 690G?

I was wrong - The SB600 (which is normally paired with the 690G) only
has 4 SATA ports. The SB700 which was released with the 780G has 6
SATA ports.

I did find a motherboard that has a Sil3132 on it, which gave it an
eSATA port and a 5th internal SATA port, but I don't think that's what
you'd want.

>  Also, how were you able to reach the conclusion that the 690G chipset is 
> fully supported?

There have been a number of success stories posted by people using the 690G.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Samsung Sata Drives Not Detected

2008-04-24 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:50 AM, heather valentine
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  is there any other possible way i can convert my drives to ZFS or UFS
>  with software similar to partition magic in Windows right now.
>  This way i can get all my data where i want it before hand.

You could use Partition Magic or similar software to shrink your
existing NTFS partition, then add a new Solaris UFS partition. I'm not
sure if there's a way to non-destructively shrink a BSD UFS partition.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Samsung Sata Drives Not Detected

2008-04-23 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:10 PM, heather valentine
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  i saw the drives but was unable to mount them becasue i really
>  dont want to format them in UFS as i have no where to move all that data.
>
>  On Belenix i tried it from te Live Disk and te same thing no Change

I misunderstood you. I thought that Belenix had worked for you.

OpenSolaris supports the FAT file system, but not NTFS. It also
supports UFS, but I think Solaris's UFS is different than BSD's UFS2
and may not be able to read it. What filesystem is on your drives
currently?

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Samsung Sata Drives Not Detected

2008-04-23 Thread Brandon High
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 6:52 AM, heather valentine
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  i did everythign correct through vfstab
>  However i was not able to actually mount them in Solaris 10
>  but i was able to mount at least one of them on Belenix.
>  IS Belenix still Solaris.

Belenix uses the Open Solaris kernel, but is not the same as Sun's
SXDE release of Open Solaris. It's a similar situation to Red Hat and
Ubuntu, both use the Linux kernel but the user space is different. If
you tried Solaris 10, it's a different kernel and may not have the
same driver or file system support.

Belenix looks like it's synced to b81. Which release of Solaris did you try?

>  i read also that i must format the drives in order
>  for Solaris to use them as UFS file types,
>  and since i do not want to format can that be a problem too if
>  i already have Data on those drives that i cat afford to lose.

If you want to create a UFS partition, you will need to format (or
repartition) one of them.

>  My question also is this.
>  IS it also possible that Solaris was unable
>  to see the available and free Space becasue i had
>  about 300 gigs of it Locked using an old windows Folder lock program?

If you weren't able to mount the file systems, then it's unlikely that
Folder Lock was the problem.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Samsung Sata Drives Not Detected

2008-04-22 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:17 AM, heather valentine
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  i dont really have seperate controllers
>  as they are built onboard on my PM8M-V MSI Board

That's got a VIA VT8237 controller, which I don't believe is on the
HCL. The device detection tool will tell you for certain.

If it doesn't work in legacy mode, it's probably not going to work. If
you want to use the drives with OpenSolaris you'll have to use a PCI
controller.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] NAS - which OS version, and what hardware is supported?

2008-04-15 Thread Brandon High
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Runar Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  MoBo: MicroATX, preferrably AM2+ and with 6 s-ata connectors and support of 
> at least 8GB RAM.
>  S-ATA controller: Something really cheap, most likely with a SiL3114 chip.

Consider the Supermicro DAC-SATA-MV8 - 8 ports, about $100 online.
http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/DAC-SATA-MV8.cfm

>  I was hoping that the AMD 780G chipset would be supported, but according to 
> this forum-posting

Look at a 690G based board - fully supported, and has 6x SATA connectors.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Mysql's Innodb immensely slow on ZFS

2008-04-14 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:20 AM, Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  And another case was an attempt to use "xsltproc(1)" on a
>  big xml file, this time on an amd64 x2 machine with 4GB of
>  memory, using zfs, and the xsltproc process had grown to
>  use > 2GB of memory.  Again heavy disk trashing, and I
>  didn't had the impression that the arc cache did shrink enough
>  to prevent that thrashing.

I did a quick check, and found some RFEs and associated bugs that look
related to the problem that you're seeing:

*  ZFS should avoiding growing the ARC into trouble
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6488341

* ZFS/ARC should cleanup more after itself
http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6424665

It sounds like the ARC is shrinking (since after multiple runs it's
faster) but it's not reacting quickly enough to the increase in memory
use.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Mysql's Innodb immensely slow on ZFS

2008-04-11 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And another case was an attempt to use "xsltproc(1)" on a
>  > big xml file, this time on an amd64 x2 machine with 4GB of
>  > memory, using zfs, and the xsltproc process had grown to
>  > use > 2GB of memory.  Again heavy disk trashing, and I
>  > didn't had the impression that the arc cache did
>  > shrink enough to prevent that thrashing.
>
>  It looks like this, in top:

prstat can give more accurate info on Solaris, fyi.

>
>  load averages:  0.01,  0.02,  0.05 
> 21:11:47
>  75 processes:  74 sleeping, 1 on cpu
>  CPU states: 99.4% idle,  0.1% user,  0.5% kernel,  0.0% iowait,  0.0% swap
>  Memory: 4031M real, 108M free, 2693M swap in use, 1310M swap free
>
>PID USERNAME LWP PRI NICE  SIZE   RES STATETIMECPU COMMAND
>   7587 jk 1  600 2430M 2306M sleep0:25  0.24% xsltproc

Only 124M of the xsltproc process is paged - The rest is resident, but
there is 2693M of swap in use. It appears that something other than
your xsltproc is paged out. AFAIK, the ARC should not page, so what
else is using that memory? Your ARC + xsltproc are only equal to
2754M. There's something else on your system consuming 3862M.

Before you ran the process, what did things look like, memory wise?
Also keep in mind that /tmp is an in memory filesystem. Things written
there will use physical memory, or page out if required.

Also, could you sort the output by memory usage? "prstat -s rss" and
"prstat -s size" will sort by resident size or total image size.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Mysql's Innodb immensely slow on ZFS

2008-04-11 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:20 AM, Jürgen Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  According to the source, it's "3/4 of all memory, or all but 1G,
>  whichever is more" (64-bit kernel only, 32-bit is different).

For some reason 1/2 stuck in my head as the max, but I'll believe you. :-)

>  1GB.  The result was heavy thrashing of the hdd during the
>  attempt to install snv_85 into that 1GB virtualbox guest!
>  I think it took over half an hour to stop that 1GB virtualbox
>  guest through the GUI, until I got back control over the machine.

I'm not sure how much overhead virtualbox has, and you didn't say what
else was running on the system at the time.

Did you check how much memory the ARC and other applications were
using during the install? You can find the size of the ARC with kstat
by looking at the zfs module (kstat -m zfs).

>  use > 2GB of memory.  Again heavy disk trashing, and I
>  didn't had the impression that the arc cache did shrink enough
>  to prevent that thrashing.

Again, what else was running, and what was the size of the ARC?

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] snv_86 on a MacBook?

2008-04-10 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Yeah - taking up the whole drive seems to be how others have done it.
>  I, however, can't afford to blow away OS X (yet), so I need to do it in
>  the partition.

While this may not completely solve your problem, look at rEFIt
(http://refit.sourceforge.net/) for the boot loader problem. You can
partition the disk with a small boot volume and larger data partition,
with GRUB in the boot partition. rEFIt can be used to boot GRUB out of
the 2nd/3rd/4th partition then. There's some info on doing this for
Linux on the site.

I haven't tried this and I have no idea if it'll work, but it might
let you sneak around a MBR issue.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Mysql's Innodb immensely slow on ZFS

2008-04-10 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:59 AM, Nico Sabbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  yes, I limited the ARC only after having verified that the default
>  setting (unspecified in /etc/system) was too slow.
>  What would be a good value considering that the server has 2 GB
>  of ram?

Without knowing the specifics of your system, I can't begin to guess.
The ARC's upward limit is about 1/2 of physical memory, and it will
decrease as required by memory pressure from other applications. In
theory, you should never have to adjust it. There are some instances
where this is not the case, but for most scenarios don't touch it.

See 
http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evil_Tuning_Guide#Limiting_the_ARC_Cache
for more info on tuning the ARC cache, and why you should or should
not touch it.

>  when I set a virtual memory limit of 4GB to mysql it died
>  very soon, so I guess it really needs a lot of memory
>  (it's full of frequently accessed databases)

Was this before or after you adjusted the buffer pool size in mysql?
If you have a huge buffer pool defined, of course the database is
going to consume a lot of memory.

Try reducing the buffer pool size in mysql and remove the "tuning"
you've done to the ARC cache. The link that Lurie posted earlier has
some good information - I suggest reviewing it again.

A really easy and probably the best solution that will fix your
problem is to install more memory. Bringing the server up to 4GB or
8GB will probably smooth things out. Crucial has an 2GB kit for $105,
4GB for $300, or 8GB for $550.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] Mysql's Innodb immensely slow on ZFS

2008-04-09 Thread Brandon High
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 1:15 AM, Nico Sabbi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  - limiting zfs's usage of memory to 256MB (appending to /etc/system
>  set zfs:zfs_arc_max = 0x800
>  and rebooting, hopefully I did the right thing)

My gut reaction is that you've shot yourself in the foot by making the
ARC cache so small. Have you done any tests with the default settings?

The size of the ARC should vary on memory pressure from other apps
running on the server, but should not exceed 1GB. Unless you know that
the MySQL instance and other apps on the system will always consume
1.5GB of memory, you're limiting your performance.

MySQL with InnoDB performs better with a smaller buffer pool size on
ZFS, relying instead on the ZFS cache. Increasing the buffer pool size
and decreasing the ARC cache size is the exact opposite of what you
want to do.

-B

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Re: [osol-discuss] New ZFS NAS Build,

2008-03-17 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Orvar Korvar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ive heard of people having problems with port multiplier? It isnt yet 
> supported?

My bad, it looks like port multipliers aresupported in Opensolaris,
but not by the SATA controllers yet.

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Re: [osol-discuss] New ZFS NAS Build,

2008-03-17 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM, andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> New desktop motherboards don't have PCI-X slots, so yes - you would need to 
> buy a server board to get a PCI-X slot.
>
>  My question would be: is there not a PCI Express version of this card?

It doesn't look like there is one available yet. To use the same
Marvell chip, there would have to be a PCIe to PCI-X bridge.

Another option that I haven't seen discussed is to use a card based on
the SiI3132 PCIe chip (1x to 2 Port SATA300) combined with a Sil3726
port multiplier. You could hang 10 drives off of the single card,
though you'd have almost twice the total bandwidth (2000Mb/s vs. 1067
Mb/s), but potentially less per drive than an AOC-SAT2-MV8 in a PCI
slot. For an inexpensive home NAS, this should be OK, but it depends
on use patterns. Since ZFS does checksum calculations on the host, the
PCI or PCIe interface should wind up being the bottleneck in both
cases.

-B
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[osol-discuss] Updated HCL for Opens Solaris

2008-03-12 Thread Brandon High
Is there an up to date HCL for Open Solaris, or what will be added in
10u5? Both the sddtool and Sun's site seem out of date.

Thanks
-B

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