Re: [osol-discuss] Changed disk controller -> drops into GRUB?!
Ok, the issue is incompatibility between IBM M1015 and Gigabyte motherboards. No solution. Just change mobo. :o( -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Changed disk controller -> drops into GRUB?!
I changed disk controller. Unplugged every disk, inserted another controller card, an IBM M1015. The disks are recognized in BIOS, and the controller card's BIOS shows up. But after that, I drop into GRUB and a prompt. That is all. How shall I solve this problem? I am thinking of booting from Solaris 11 Express USB (have no CD reader) and do an import and export. Other than, I am lost. What should I do? Help? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] New update of Solaris 11, how is it?
Regarding Containers, are they sparse yet? And as someone pointed out, S11 is coming in november. http://www.oracle.com/webapps/events/ns/EventsDetail.jsp?p_eventId=140654&src=7255745&src=7255745&Act=27 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Solaris 11 Launch Webcast Nov 9th
Yihaaa! :o) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Can not install from external usb cd drive?
I attached an external usb cd drive and tried to boot from the S11E cd, but I just get thrown into GRUB. I have tried to boot from winxp and win7 install cd, and it worked fine. How can I proceed from grub? Is it possible to install from usb external cd? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Building a storage server, need some advice
Initially, If your first vdev gets full to 90% then everything will be slow. If you then add new disks, then your first vdev is full. So you need to distribute the old data to all new disks (for instance by copying the data). Every time you add a new vdev you need to do this rebalancing of data to new vdev. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Virtual Box and OpenSolaris Memory instead of Swap
What is the point of keeping the cache warm? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Need driver for SATA 6 gbps?
http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=129352&tstart=0 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Need driver for SATA 6 gbps?
Ok, Ive found some useful links that lists several SATA cards working on OpenSolaris: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=10 http://www.sun.com/io_technologies/sata/SATA0.html http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.os.solaris.opensolaris.storage.general/8240 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Need driver for SATA 6 gbps?
I have looked a bit, but can not find the comparison you talk of. Can you find the link? Which 6Gbps cards work together with Solaris 11 Express? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Solaris Online Forum Event :: April 14th at 9am PT
where is info? i missed the event. what did they say about minimizing zones? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Need driver for SATA 6 gbps?
I am thinking of buying an SSD, OCZ Vertex 3, which has some sick performance. To that I need to buy an SATA 6gbps card, because my old mobo offers only 3 gbps. Do I need to install Solaris drivers first, or can I use the 6 gbps card without drivers? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
I always install GRUB on the Solaris partition, never on MBR - because if there is a problem with GRUB, it is just a matter of activating the Solaris partition. If I install GRUB on MBR and if there is a problem, I have to reinstall GRUB, fix the configuration file, etc - much more work. It is easier to just activate the Solaris partition. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
I dont think that was the problem. When I booted the PC, I press F12 which gives me a menu of different hardware I can boot from: CD, USB, Hard disks, etc. I chose to boot from hard disks, and I chose to boot from the internal system disk - but it didnt work - I could not boot Solaris. The problem was that only the Windows partition were activated. When I chose to boot only, WinXP or Win7 booted. I could not boot into GRUB, because GRUB is on the Solaris partition. I must set Solaris partition as "active", which boots into GRUB, which then allows me to boot any OS. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
Ok, progress report: I installed an eSATA pci-express card and everything is fine. On my system disk, I have WinXP and S11e, and I can choose between them from GRUB. I have now attached an eSATA external disk and installed Win7 on it. The external eSATA disk must be powered on upon boot of the PC, otherwise it seems that the PC will not recognize the eSATA disk. I installed Win7 on the external disk, and upon reboot, I got to choose between Win7 and "older windows" - which means WinXP. I can not reach GRUB (i.e. not boot Solaris). In WinXP I could see my Solaris partition in the disk administration program "Control Panel -> bla bla". I saw that WinXP partition was marked as "active" so I tried to set Solaris partition as "active" but could not from within WinXP. I installed Acronis in Win7 and could now mark the Solaris partition as "active" and when I rebooted, I booted into GRUB! So now I could choose to boot S11e or Windows. If I choose to boot Windows, I see a another menu where I can choose between Win7 or "Older Windows" - which means WinXP. Thus, I have Win7 on an eSATA disk, and because my Solaris partition is "active" I always boot into GRUB. From there, I can boot which ever OS I want. If I power off the eSATA disk, I still boot into GRUB and can choose between Solaris and WinXP. Everything is working just as I wanted. Over and out. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] New problem?
So, this is only a problem with "format" command? It outputs some weird characters but my data is safe? I can safely ignore those weird characters? Everything is ok? My data is safe? (Cindy, I can not upgrade to b154 as I only have access to the official Solaris 11 Express b151a distro from Oracle.) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] New problem?
Ok, I get this strange output. Is it a problem, or can I safely ignore this? Look at the name of the disk c7d0, it has weird characters. Is it because I tried other SATA ports, and has it messed up the disk in someway? root@JamesBond:~# format Searching for disks... Failed to inquiry this logical diskdone AVAILABLE DISK SELECTIONS: 0. c7d0 <ئpHoD���Xqȅ��ئ��� cyl 8700 alt 2 hd 255 sec 189> /pci@0,0/pci-ide@1f,2/ide@0/cmdk@0,0 1. c17d0 /pci@0,0/pci-ide@1f,5/ide@0/cmdk@0,0 Specify disk (enter its number): ^C root@JamesBond:~# -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] [SOLVED]
Got a bit of a panic, but everything is fine now. So to conclude: you must insert the system disk into the same SATA port if you want Solaris to work without running additional commands. But if you have an external zpool, you can import/export the zpool without problems, even if the disks are in other SATA ports. REMEMBER to insert the Solaris 11 Express system disk into the original SATA port, or you will run into problems!!! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
ok everything seems to work now. i searched for the correct sata port, and now it works. why is that? i would prefer doing "zpool import" from livecd. but it didnt work. anyway, thanx for your help guys. solaris is back! yay! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
the log file says
executing start method ("/lib/svc/method/fs-local")
method "start" exited with status 0
stopping because service is disabled
executing stop method ( null)
...
warning: /sbin/mountall -l failed: exit status 32
method "start" exited with status 95
enabled
and svcs -x svc says
state: maintenance
reason:start method exited with $smf_exit_err_fatal
see: sun.com/msg/smf-8000-js
impact: 40 dependent services are not running
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Re: [osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
nope, it didnt work, using the live cd. i have several BE, osol 2009.06, b134, S11e. Could those BE be a problem? Now I try to insert the cable to the correct SATA port. Urgh. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
Ok, I think it seems easier to "zpool import" than open the chassi again. I will try to boot live CD S11e and do a zpool import. I'll report back in 15 min. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
Que? Really? How do I fix the problems? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
PS. I can login to S11e and go around in the filesystem, every piece of data seems to be there. Can I run some commands that will fix this? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
PS. I removed the hard disk when I fastened the cpu cooler again, and then inserted the SATA cable - but this should not affect Solaris 11 Express, right? If I insert the disk into another SATA port on the motherboard, no problems should arise, right? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Dropped my PC, S11e behaves strange??? Help!
I just dropped my PC on the floor from 30cm height, and the PC stopped working. The LED lamps light and fans started, but no graphics, no text, no output. The fans stopped after 20secs, and restarted, and stopped after 20secs, and restarted, etc. I finally removed the big cpu cooler (0.9kg) and fastened it to the cpu again, and the PC worked! The cpu cooler had probably lost it's firm grip of the cpu and it could not cool the cpu adequately. The cpu got hot efter 5-10 secs, and shut down to protect itself. Then the cpu started and got hot, and shut down. etc etc. I cleaned the cpu cooler and fastened it again with new cooling paste and the PC works now. The problem: Solaris 11 Express does not work. I am using dual boot with WinXP and S11e and I can boot into WinXP and use WinXP. When I boot into S11e there are problems. After a long time with the boot splash screen, I press space and see this console text: SunOS Release 5.11 Version snv_151a 64-bit Copyright (c) 1983, 2010, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. Hostname: JamesBond mount: No such file or directory svc:/system/filesystem/local:default: WARNING: /sbin/mountall -l failed: exit status 32 Mar 14 18:23:07 svc.startd[9]: svc:/system/filesystem/local:default: Method "/lib/svc/method/fs-local" failed with exit status 95. Mar 14 18:23:07 svc.startd[9]: system/filesystem/local:default failed fatally: transitioned to maintenance(see 'svcs -xv' for details) JamesBond console login: ARGH!! Give me back my Solaris! Now I sit and type this in shitty Windows. If some Solaris guru is reading this, please give me a hint how I shall continue. Can I rescue my Solaris install, or do I have to reinstall? I tried to boot from liveCD and "pfexec zpool import -f rpool" but there are no rpool, it says. Argh! I want my Solaris back! Please help me? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] ZFS dedup destroy woes!
Interesting story. So basically: avoid dedup. But you didnt loose any data. Right? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dual boot, now upgrading WinXP to Win7. GRUB problems?
Actually, I have three partitions: 1) WinXP 2) FAT32 3) S11e If I modify the size of 1) and 2), for instance merge 1) and 2), before installing S11e - does this change anything? Do I need to use the same steps as you outlined? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dual boot, now upgrading WinXP to Win7. GRUB problems?
Ok, I will print out menu.lst and look at it before formatting. And I need to get the S11e disc, as I have upgraded from b134. Thanks man! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Dual boot, now upgrading WinXP to Win7. GRUB problems?
I am using dual boot, Solaris 11 Express and WinXP. Now I want to upgrade WinXP to Win7. How do I do that? What are the steps? If I format the WinXP partition and make a clean install of Win7, it will over write the GRUB. This means I can not access Solaris anymore. I must somehow fix GRUB. How to do this? Does it suffice to activate the Solaris partition in Win7 - and GRUB will automatically load? Must I install Win7 and then manually install GRUB? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
Ok, great info! Thanx a lot! I didnt knew that. I got to get myself an eSATA chassi now. USB2 sucks badly. Thanx for this info, guys. A last question: how do I use eSATA? Similar to USB? I just plug the eSATA disk in, and then it mounts automatically? Or I use "format" to see the disc and mount it manually? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
And 6Gbit SATA card needs a driver? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
For instance a port replicator, does it need a driver? How can I tell when a driver is needed, or not? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
>> eSATA is a physical connector and electrical standard for SATA. So you are implying that eSATA does not need any drivers? It is like an ordinary SATA controller, those dont need drivers either? So what is the difference between eSATA and USB3.0? Why does USB3 need a driver, isnt it a physical connector as well? Is there a simple rule of thumb to tell which connections need a driver, and which dont need a driver? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?
I suspect USB 3.0 needs Solaris drivers, and there are no such drivers yet? How about eSATA? Does it need Solaris drivers as well? And where can I get such drivers? Does eSATA work well? Do I need to use HCL compatible eSATA chipset or something? What do I need to think about? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Guys, thanx for all input! Very valuable! There are no CUDA available for Solaris? In no way? And no OpenCL? I will ask Virtualbox forum for OpenCL / CUDA. Would be nice if it where possible. Again, thanx. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
I dont have a cluster or specialized hardware at home, to do heavy calculations. I can buy Nvidia card to do calculations, but Solaris does not support OpenCL nor CUDA nor anything similar - as far as I know. To use graphic cards to do heavy calculation I need to switch OS to Linux with OpenCL, which is not an option. A question: If I buy Nvidia graphic card, and install Windows in VirtualBox together with 3D support - could I use OpenCL / CUDA / whatever in the Windows VM? Regarding i7 uses too much power, and i5 is better - i5 doesnt suit my needs. I want plenty of CPU power when I need to and it does not matter if the cpu sucks much power when I am doing heavy calculations. The rest of the time, when I dont do heavy calculations, I want it to idle at very low wattage. I basically want a cpu with low wattage in idle and when I surf the web. When I need to, I want to have plenty of power and in that case it it allowed to suck much wattage. I would not like to have a weak cpu, and when I need to do some heavy work, I need to switch to another PC with a beefy CPU. Then I need two PC, one for web surf etc and one for heavy work. I want one PC, that has low power wattage in idle and surf the web, and plenty of muscles when the need rises. I suspect Sandybridge will idle at 50W. Or maybe I wait for Ivy bridge... Regarding the 3D driver for Sandybridge. Yesterday I got a mail from someone at Oracle writing: "We are planning on integrating 3D support for Sandybridge as soon as we get KMS support in." Thank you for this information! :o) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Lightpeak / Thunderbolt support coming?
Anyone heard anything about USB3.0 support, or Thunderbolt support plans? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Thanks for the tips, but I also need to do heavy development and run heavy calculations. So I need a beefy CPU above all. But I prefer if it has low power requirements. That is the reason Sandybridge is what I prefer. I have to wait and see how the 3D graphics driver turns out -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Erik, What is driving my Sandybridge desire is I want to build a SunRay server for home use, also doubling as a ZFS file server, and some simple gaming. If I can replace all computers at home, with SunRays I have saved power. Say each PC uses 100 watt at idle, that could be 300Watt at idle. If I replace them with a SunRay server that idles at 50watt, I have saved lots of power. I want the server to be powerful, but excellent graphics performance is not important, but I want rudimentary graphics ability: 1080p, Compiz, etc. Sandybridge is powerful CPU, so I can do some heavy compilations and development, and also SunRay will benefit from powerful CPU. I also want a ZFS server (the raid discs are normally powered off) I suspect a Sandybridge with integrated graphics is powerful and idles at 50watt. AMD with separate graphics card is not as powerful as Sandybridge, and uses lots of power. AMD bulldozer could be an option, but then I need a discrete graphics card that sucks up lots of power - so Bulldozer is not an alternative. Maybe OpenIndiana/Illumos/someone else could build an open sourced 3D graphics driver for Bulldozer? That would be perfect, but probably it will not happen. So, in my eyes Sandybridge gives lot of cpu power and rudimentary 3D graphics and use little power - perfect for SunRay server. I dont see any other option than Sandybridge? Price is not that important, I am willing to pay a premium. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
I just want an integrated 3D in a cpu that can give me 1080p, Compiz, simple games in Wine/VirtualBox, etc. It is not really important to me if I get updates to a 3D driver, as long as it gives me the above. I hope Sandybridge would give me this? What do you think, should the Solarsi 3D driver for Sandybridge be able to give me all this? Never mind frequent updates... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
I thought 3D driver for Sandbybridge was on it's way? I dont need excellent 3D performance, just so I can see 1080p video, use Compiz, play old games in Wine/VirtualBox, such as Starcraft 1, Diablo 2, etc. I hope in this case, I do not need Nvidia graphics card. Now, I have a ATI4850 and the 2D driver is not really good, I can not playback 1080p video - that is impossible because of huge lag. I want to build a Solaris PC with low power requirements. Sandybridge/Ivybridge with one SSD and no discrete graphics card. I suspect this config will idle at ~50Watt and still provide plenty of cpu power, but low 3D performance. Which is perfect for a SunRay server. Maybe I should settle for Ivy Bridge, which should have the same 3D graphics driver, I hope. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Would I be wasting my time with intel P4 3GBram (32bit)
If you use zfs with P4, 32 bits, you will get something like 20-30MB/sec read write speed to your zfs raid. You need 64bit cpu to get full r/w speed, because zfs is 128bit. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Thanks. Exactly the kind of info I wanted. This means I have to buy a Xeon grade Sandy Bridge, which sucks. I would prefer a cheap i5/whatever. AMD's new Bulldozer with graphics-on-die, does support ECC, but is not an option to me, because I want 3D graphics. Oracle is not supporting AMD cpus anymore, which means there will be no 3D graphics drivers for AMDs Bulldozer. I dont think anyone else will release Solaris 3D graphics drivers for AMD Bulldozer. Maybe I should just discard the ECC ram thing and use normal RAM for my Sandybridge. :o( -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Recover data from disk with zfs
When you created your zpool, you should have specified "raidz1", which means ZFS allows one disc to crash without problems. If you have not specified "raidz1", it means no discs are allowed to crash - if one disc crashes, your whole zpool is gone. If you have configured raidz1 on your zpool and one disc crashes, you can simply swap that disc to a new one, and use the command "resilver" which means your zpool will automatically repair itself. Google on "zfs resilver" -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
Eric, Intel Sandybridge, does it support ECC? I heard that Intel does not allow hardware targeted to home users support ECC. Only server stuff supports ECC. Ive heard. Do you know anything about Intel stuff in general? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting hard drive NTFS
What read and write speeds do you get? 3MB/sec? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] opensolaris security
Ive read from several places (developers), that OpenBSD is secure only because every service is shut down. When you start to enable them, OpenBSD is as secure/unsecure as any other other Unix. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting hard drive NTFS
What read/write speeds to you get? Approximately? I only get 3MB/sec. That is unusable. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] "small" jbod tower?
Ive never understood it. Could you help me, by explaining? Do you insert all the drives in the chassi, and have a second PC which you connect to with eight very long SATA cables (one to each disk)? Or, does the chassi have a motherboard and is essentially a server? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting hard drive NTFS
To my knowledge, the only way to get good NTFS speed is via network. Impossible to get NTFS speed directly on a Solaris computer. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Mounting hard drive NTFS
I have tried ntfs-3g driver and on my OpenSolaris PC I get like 3MB/sec read speed. So, you can not get any good NTFS speed with OpenSolaris. The only way to get good speed is to connect a windows laptop and copy via network. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Sometimes laggy
Ok, do you have any more pointers? I am a solaris noob and just tried these commands without really knowing what is going on. truss'ing what? Do you have web page or so? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Sometimes laggy
I sometimes experience lag. When I try to display files in Gnome Commander, it will lag one second before all files show. This will happen continuously until I reboot. Why is that? Does anybody have a clue? Hardware: P45 Gigabyte EP45-DS3P motherboard, Intel Q9450, 8GB RAM, ATI 4850 Here are some output of some commands. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org interrupts_mdb.output Description: Binary data intrstat.output Description: Binary data lockstat.output Description: Binary data mpstat.output Description: Binary data powertop.output Description: Binary data ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Can we replace the libthread.so in Solaris with the one from Opensolaris ?
DTrace does not do what you want? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] How stop software autobooting?
When I login I see several instances of VirtualBox starting. I dont want that. How can I stop them from booting? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] mount disk 2
To mount a drive, you use the command "mount". Something like (I dont remmeber the syntax) # mount -t PCFS /myFAT32diskIsHere /dev/c0t0d0p2 Do a "man mount" -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future
AIX is soon dead, according to IBM executives. That is the reason there are not too many great AIX people around. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] areca ARC-1200 (2-Port PCIe x1 to SATA RAID Adapter)
Dont you want to use ZFS? If you do want to use ZFS, dont use a hardware raid. JBOD is best, because hw raid disturbs ZFS. ZFS can not do it's magic with error detection and correction if you use hw raid. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Bordeaux running on OpenIndiana
>From the website: "If over the next month we sell 50 or more licences for the future OpenIndiana release we will give OpenIndiana priority and release Bordeaux 3.0 for OpenIndiana first in our next release schedule." But I dont think that OpenIndiana is too stable yet? Because it is the first release. When we see next release of OpenIndiana I will try it. But not now, as it has been rushed out. Wait a bit, and then everybody will use OpenIndiana. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express
> Now from a licensing perspective, I was told by this same product manager that > the OTN license does enable us to use Solaris 11 Express, Solaris 11, and > Solaris 10 for personal use (development, education, evaluation, hobby, etc.) > for free. It's only when you use those products for production that they want > you to pay. Actually, I also spoke to a marketing manager high up, about this. He spoke with some managers high up, about Solaris 10/11 licensing and all the managers said what you say: "free for personal use". I asked the marketing manager that Oracle rephrase the license text and be much clearer in the text. The marketing manager will get back to me later on this. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] AMD Shares up on Oracle Takeover Buzz
> Dude, why do you quote articles 7-8 years old? Things change. In the 50's > they said we'd all be > flying to work like George Jetson in the 2000's, yet I drove my car today. > Things change. I dont see anything today that is different from the predicted outcome in the article. IBM executive says things like "it will take time, but AIX will be killed" and "the road is clear". Well, today 7-8 years has passed. "It will take time" - that does not mean half a year. Also, IBM is ramping up investments in Linux. For instance, zLinux is agressively promoted. Which is a bad thing for IBM. Because the Mainframes are dog slow, the customers will be dissapointed when they find out how they can only consolidate idle servers. That will give Mainframes a bad reputation. As long as Mainframes are running Mainframe stuff, IBM can uphold the illusion that Mainframes are fast. But when customers can run Linux and finally can compare Linux on x86 to Mainframes, they will find out how slow Mainframes are. It is a mistake by IBM to let customers compare workloads on Mainframes to x86 > You also fail to understand that Linux and x86 do not have the RAS > capabilities of POWER > architecture" I understand this. I wrote in the post above yours: "POWER will continue to scale better than x86 and have better RAS." But the thing is, x86 will be fast as POWER and much cheaper, in servers up to 4-8 sockets. If you are going to buy 4-8 socket servers, the premier choice will be x86. Regarding RAS, just buy several x86 servers, for the price of one POWER server, and you will have ok uptime. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] AMD Shares up on Oracle Takeover Buzz
You make it sound like some random guy at IBM that says "AIX will be replaced with Linux" but it is not. That statement is coming straight from the IBM executives, officially on a big event. IBM is betting heavily on Linux. Have you missed how IBM is aggressively pushing Linux on the dog slow Mainframes? Any modern x86 is 5-10x faster than the best Mainframe cpu (because they are POWER6 derivatives - which are slow cpus). http://www.mail-archive.com/r...@rlug.org/msg00167.html http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/application-development/2003/01/29/ibm-linux-will-replace-aix-2129537/ http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/it-strategy/2003/01/24/ibm-linux-is-here-to-stay-2129274/ "A replacement "won't happen overnight," [IBM Executive] Mills said, but years of experience designing operating systems at IBM and other companies means developers know just where Linux needs to go. "The road map is clear. It's an eight-lane highway." No one believes replacing AIX with Linux could happen quickly, or that IBM will leave its AIX customers in a lurch. But the degree of Mills' Linux support surprised some. "They've denied it would replace AIX in the past," said Illuminata analyst Gordon Haff. "Perhaps their thinking is beginning to shift. They've been quite clear that they see Linux as picking up AIX technologies maybe a year, two years later, but they've certainly been quite circumspect about saying Linux would ever replace AIX." Regarding the trends, the trend shows that x86 is soon as fast as POWER. As I said, when x86 is matching POWER, things will change for AIX, it will actively be phased out. However, x86 will not catch up on Niagara, because Niagara is in another niche where it is easily the best. POWER will continue to scale better than x86 and have better RAS. But, when x86 gives equal performance customers will prefer 2-4 socket x86 servers instead of 2-4 socket POWER servers. POWER will only give an advantage on big machines with many sockets. But those are too expensive. Slowly few socket POWER servers sales will decline in favor of few socket x86 servers. IBM will continue to sell servers with many socket, but IBM can not live on them. Too expensive and a too small a market. Eventually, at IBM, all sold servers up to 8 sockets will be x86. Servers with more than 8 sockets will be POWER. But IBM can not live on those large servers. Customers will start to prefer buying several smaller 8-socket x86 servers and cluster them. Big POWER servers will die. And that will be the final nail in the coffin for AIX and POWER. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] AMD Shares up on Oracle Takeover Buzz
> Keep quoting ten-year old articles! Ok, will do. Until IBM says something else. > As for POWER7, it is powering the new Blue Waters supercomputer at NCSA and > is funded by the > NSF and DARPA. It will hook together 16,384 Power7 chips! > The transfer rate between nodes will > be 192GB per second! Cool, but that is not a commodity server. It is a special tailored machine and is not interesting. Just because F1 cars are very fast, it doesnt say something about the commodity cars. Or, the POWER 595 IBM used to get the old TPC-C record. It had 2TB of RAM and several 1000s of short stroked hard drives. That is a pathological computer and no company uses such a machine for database work. As for the transfer rate of 192GB/sec I dont care too much about. I remember when IBM said the POWER6 has 220GB/sec bandwidth - and it turned out that IBM had added all L1+L2+L3 cache bandwidth and what not. If there is a bottleneck of 1GB/sec, then the chip will not be faster than 1GB/sec, no matter how much bandwidth the different parts of the chip has. You can not add up bandwidth. This follows from the max-flow=min-cut theorem from graph theory. Or, I remember when IBM said that one IBM Mainframe can virtualize 1500 of x86 servers. It turned out that all those servers idle and the Mainframe is 100% loaded! In that case, my laptop virtualizes 10 Mainframes (if they all idle) - this is hardly a true statement? And as we all know, the Mainframe cpus are dog slow. You need 10 Intel Nehalem-EX cpus to match the biggest IBM z10 Mainframe with 64 cpus - in terms of computing power. So, 192GB/sec is probably not true and I am very sceptical to that figure. > I'm not sure what you mean by "2013 there will be 8 socket T3+ machines with > 1024 beefy > threads." The IBM Power 795 already supports 256 cores and 1,024 threads. > That was in Feb > of 2010. So if you're saying in the year 2013 the T3 will support that, then > it is already 3 years > behind IBM. Yes, I hope that the biggest machine IBM with 32 cpus, will win over a T3+ machine with 8 cpus. Otherwise IBM did something wrong. But wait until a 32 socket Niagara machine comes out and compare to the biggest IBM machine, that would be fair. But I know IBM does not like fair comparisons. Typically, IBM compares a server with 16 POWER6 cpus, to a 4 socket Niagara machine - and concludes the "POWER6 is a faster cpu than Niagara" because the 16 socket server is faster. Only IBM thinks it is fair to compare 16 cpus to 4 cpus. IBM says: "both servers have equally many cores - and therefore it is fair comparison and the benchmark shows that POWER6 is a faster cpu". Well, if we talk about which cpu is fastest, then we should compare cpu vs cpu. Not core vs core which IBM does. > x86 cannot match that and isn't close, so I don't know why you Linux/x86 fans > continue to > think it is better than AIX/POWER or Solaris/SPARC. Clearly, Linux/x86 is > behind and the gap > is wide. I know x86 can not match that. But the gap is decreasing fast. Look at the trend and extrapolate. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] AMD Shares up on Oracle Takeover Buzz
As IBM has officially stated that they are going to phase out AIX in favour of Linux, it probably makes sense to sell off POWER. x86 is catching up fast and within some generations, x86 will be faster than POWER. When that happens, IBM will probably sell of POWER, kill AIX and switch to Linux 100%. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana Announcement
> In Unity, there is Strength. Yes, but we have stay united. Not have umpteen number of distros? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana?
Ok, I understand your point. And it is cool with you being first with several things. I am only asking if all distros cooperated on one single distro, would it not be better if there was only one "official" community distro. It does not matter to people if it is Schillix or OpenIndiana, as long as the distro attracts many core developers and it gets momentum. But some people would prefer a pure OpenSolaris distro, and not an entirely new animal. I understand there are lots of efforts invested in each distro and lot of politics too. I am just worried about fragmentation. Just like Unix: there are Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, SCO, Xenix, etc. And they could not be merged, Unix continued to be fragmented. And then suddenly Linux came and everyone joined it. I am worried it will be the same with OpenSolaris: lots of different distros and no one catch momentum. But with a sader end: there is no single OpenSolaris distro to emerge, but all these distros die instead. I think OpenSolaris community is not really interested in umpteen different distros, as Linux has. Only one distro is acceptable to most people. I believe. But of course, people are free to disagree. :o) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana?
Why dont some OpenSolaris distros join forces and work on OpenIndiana, and at a later point digress? Schillix, Nexenta, Milax, Korona, etc - wouldnt it be good if some projects merged with OpenIndiana? Or, are there no interests in merging? If OpenIndiana got all those resources, it would be quite good for OpenSolaris? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!
Great news! :) I will surely run OpenIndiana. I would like to try something else than b134. I hope you make clear instructions how to upgrade from b134. Preferably "copy & paste" commands. Looking forward to the announcement tomorrow! :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!
Huh? I have got Srss 4.2 running on b134 for a long time. It is documented on the internet how to make it run. What is your problem, what happened and what are the symptoms? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!
However, I got read speed for NTFS is like 3MB/sec. Not really useable for much data. But of course, it is good to be able to read small documents. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!
This is interesting. b147 you say? Cool! It is not based on illumos. When will it be based on illumos? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Phenom II X6 1090T, AMD 890FX / SB850, Any Driver Development Efforts?
I use ATI4850 with OpenSolaris. It works. But no 3D. Only 2D. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
Are you speculating or do you have some substance? You seem to know a bit about AIX kernel code? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
How is that nonsense? IBM has said OFFICIALLY they are going to kill AIX. When IBM say so, is it nonsense of me to repeat what IBM said? How is it nonsense? In fact, it makes very sense to repeat what IBM say. Actually, it is nonsense to reject IBMs own official statements. In other words, it is you that talk nonsense. When Linus Torvalds said that "Linux is bloated" and I repeat that - am I talking nonsense? Regarding POWER. AIX runs on POWER, yes. What happens to AIX if POWER dies? Then AIX probably dies too. IBM is not interested in porting AIX to x86. Why would they? Then they can not charge outrageously high prices for AIX. When people can compare AIX prices on x86, to ordinary x86 vendors - they will be shocked. And yes, POWER has a bleak future. It will die eventually. x86 is today almost as fast as POWER7, for a fraction of the price. The biggest POWER7 machine has 64 sockets. Intel Nehalem-EX scales to 256 sockets. Earlier, POWER and SPARC crushed x86. Nowadays, x86 is getting so much resources it has the fastest development pace. It will very soon beat POWER (Sandybridge and Bulldozer is soon out, and next next generations are soon out long before POWER). x86 and POWER: they are competing in the same territory: few heavy weight threads. x86 will win this race, there is too much money in x86. x86 and SPARC: x86 has won in terms of performance x86 and Niagara: Niagara has found it's niche and wins in multi threaded work loads. Niagara T3 and T4 will rock the boat and no other cpu can match Niagara in its niche. Ergo, POWER is dying. AIX will die too. Then it makes sense for IBM to shift to Linux. IBM just tries to milk the cow as long as possible. When x86 outperforms POWER (or gives equal performance) for a fraction of the price, there are no reasons to stuck with ultra expensive slower AIX gear. POWER will go the same way as Itanium goes. Itanium is soon dead too - too slow and too expensive. POWER will soon be the next Itanium. And of course, SPARC will also die. But Niagara will give far more performance than any other cpu, so it might live. Only way POWER and SPARC can live, is if they give much higher performance (not likely as x86 is catching up) or if they are cheaper than x86 (not likely, because of the mass volumes of Intel and AMD). Solaris runs on x86, so it will live. AIX will die. As a coincidence, IBM has officially said that "AIX will be killed in favour of Linux on x86". Make your bets. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
You are free to speculate of course. But when IBM executives say something, there is some substance in what they say. More substance than in a speculation. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
>But I still think if Oracle does not change it's current ideas for solaris it >will die out. Solaris has always been more advaced then linux but that has not >stop shops migrating to linux Everyone knows that Unix lost ground. The thing is, there have never been a compelling reason to switch to Solaris, except technological. Oracle will now try to make all their customers switch to Solaris. I dont see why Solaris will diminish then. There is a huge potential market. Of course, if Oracle's customers will still prefer Linux efter Oracle has been pushing Solaris, then Solaris has a problem. But Oracle will make Solaris the better alternative, with new killer functionality. And there will also be business reasons to switch to Solaris, not only technological reasons. The new killer functionality (probably involving DTrace) and the business reasons to switch - will make the customers switch, I think. If that does not succeed, then Solaris has a problem. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
>Those news are 7 years old! things have changed since then What things have changed since then? Do you have any links where IBM executives take back what they said? It is said: The roadmap is to kill AIX in the future. It makes sense, as Linux is selling more than AIX. And x86 is soon faster than POWER7. Sandybridge and Bulldozer is almost as fast as POWER7. Linux is cheaper than AIX, and x86 soon offers equal performance as POWER. IBM is already betting on Linux. If IBM executives say that AIX is going to be killed in the future and you claim it is not true - I expect you have links that support you. Otherwise you are just speculating. In short, AIX has not a bright future. But Solaris has. There are no really big applications that are used to drive AIX sales. But Oracle is an application company, and will use Solaris to drive application sales. I expect Solaris to grow it's user base. And Illumos will also grow. This is Solaris revival. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
> IBM has publicly said that they are phasing out AIX in favour of Linux. AIX > will be killed. IBM has said that officially. Here is links that confirm my claim. Just google a bit and you will see. http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/application-development/2003/01/29/ibm-linux-will-replace-aix-2129537/ http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-982512.html -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
It doesnt matter how much Unix has lost ground. I agree that Unix lost ground, everyone knows that. The question is not about the past. Let us instead try to look into the future instead. Oracle has 370.000 customers and they pay big money. Sun had 35.000 customers. Oracle will make sure that their database plays best together with Solaris 11. And Exadata is switching to Solaris too. Larry will make sure there are not only technological reasons to switch to Solaris, but also business reasons. The customers that want to utilize Oracle Database to the full extent, must use Solaris 11. What will those customers do? Switch or stay on Linux? You can not easily migrate from one database to another. In short, the future (not the past) looks bright. Solaris adoption rate among Oracle's current customers are low, and there is a huge growth potential there. If Oracle can make even a tiny percent to switch, then Oracle has reverted the trend and Solaris is actually increasing market share. Solaris itself can not revert the declining trend, but Oracle will use Solaris to drive their applications better than any other OS. And people use and care about applications. In short, Solaris has greater potential to grow than ever before (370.000 new customers). Or in other words, the future is bright for Solaris. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
IBM has publicly said that they are phasing out AIX in favour of Linux. AIX will be killed. IBM has said that officially. Development pace is slowing down. IBM is shifting more resources to Linux. I wouldnt bet on AIX in the long term. On the other hand, Solaris has a far larger user base today. Sun had 35.000 customers. Oracle has 370.000 customers. Oracle will try hard to make them switch to Solaris 11. Solaris has a bright future. AIX has not. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Will this forum shut down?
Does anyone know if it will shut down? And if it shuts down, then we all go to Illumos forum? Or? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
And from today, also Adam Leventhal. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
Actually, Oracle is opening up Solaris 11. Solaris 10 was closed source. This is important and no one complained on S10 being closed? When/if Oracle incorporates fixes from Illumos, those fixes will be available later, when Oracle releases the binary distro and the source code. This does not disturb me. This announcement may be bad for the OpenSolaris distro, but Solaris 11 Express distro is just a few months away. This announcement is great for Solaris. What disturbs me, is the brain drain. Bryan Cantrill and Adam Leventhal has left now - they will both help out with Illumos I think. I hope Oracle treats the talented engineers that are left, better. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
What is the difference between single-context kernel and multi-context? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express
All source code will be available after binary update of Solaris 11 Express have been released. Then Illumos will have a chance to catch up and synchronize. As FreeBSD. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dell and HP to Certify and Resell all Three Oracle Operating Systems on their x86 Server Computers
Hahahaha! Yes, you are right, you did not say so. I dont really know why I posted that. I must have switched on the autopilot. There have been lots of FUD around OpenSolaris recently. Sorry for that. ;o) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dell and HP to Certify and Resell all Three Oracle Operating Systems on their x86 Server Computers
I dont see that "Oracle is killing OpenSolaris", if it is mentioned on the official web page? First of all, OpenSolaris is the basis for next gen Solaris 11. If OpenSolaris code is scrapped, there will be no Solaris 11. Hence, OpenSolaris code will not be killed. It is only FUD to say so. On the other hand, the OpenSolaris DISTRO is another thing. It may be killed (I dont think so) but OpenSolaris will live via Solaris 11. Ergo, OpenSolaris will not be killed. The distro from Sun/Oracle might get killed. But there are other OpenSolaris distros that have access to all source code and build newer versions: Korona, Schillix, Nexenta, Milax, etc. So the source code will be built and released as different OpenSolaris distros. Again, OpenSolaris will not be killed. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Dell and HP to Certify and Resell all Three Oracle Operating Systems on their x86 Server Computers
Oracle mentions OpenSolaris now: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/opensolaris/overview/index.html -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] VLC building help
I am a noob on this, but when I did setup spec files for Wine, it was really cumbersome and not easy. Maybe it has changed now? I saw a thread about compiling the VLC spec file here somewhere. Search for it. And you can also search for the Wine compile thread, as it contains lots of information about spec file. And also, there is a VLC binary package to download, if you prefer that instead. http://wyang0.blogspot.com/2009/08/vlc-on-solaris-10.html -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] VLC building help
Also, MPlayer is very common on Solaris. It is said to handle more codecs than VLC. And MPlayer have binary package for Solaris, somewhere. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] VLC building help
Have you tried it compile VLC via OpenSolaris "spec-files"? They are basically a diff to the ordinary make file, so you can compile on OSol without any greater problems. Google on "spec-files" -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] I want to help, where do I start?
Yeah, Solaris rocks! Alasdair writes, regarding a community distro: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=131937&tstart=0#492550 "I'm hoping to collect together a list of people who are interested in volunteering/helping out with just such an effort - if you could drop an email to me - alasdairrr at gmail, with details of how you're interested in helping out, then I'll jot down your details and get in touch." -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro
I might be interested in helping with something small. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Quick question about the future
We all see that the development pace on OpenSolaris is high, even today: http://static.opensolaris.org/on/flagdays/141-145.html http://arc.opensolaris.org/caselog/year/2010.html As I have understood it, the source code is available to check out, yes? So, what hinders that the community just checks it out and releases a build or an ISO file? Is this exactly what Nexenta is doing, so Nexenta is keeping their builds updated? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?
"I mean Solaris doesn't have not even 1% of operating systems market share." Is this true? I mean, you should look at the correct market segment that Solaris targets, the Enterprise server market where it is big. I mean, Windows dont have big market share in Enterprise, but rules on the desktop. Solaris dont have big market share on desktop, but is very common in Enterprise server market. According to HP study recently, Solaris is the most common Enterprise OS with the brightest future. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle has Linux video codecs, so codecs for OSOL?
I know that Fluendo offers a free MP3 sound codec. But does Fluendo offer free video codecs? Alan, I know that many Linux distros has video codecs included. As Unbreakable Linux is another distro, maybe it also has video codecs included? (Unless it is a strictly server distro). If video codecs are included in Unbreakable Linux, then Oracle has licenses. Maybe those licenses could be transfered to OpenSolaris? The point was that it would be nice if latest VLC player would be offered in the IPS package system. Ive heard that you can build VLC via spec files, but that is cumbersome for newbies. (Does this spec file work well or are there lots of problems?) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Oracle has Linux video codecs, so codecs for OSOL?
Oracle has Unbreakable Linux, and it has probably video codecs. Would it be possible that Oracle can use those video codec license for OSOL? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Bug: Shell problems
Yepp, it was it. You solved this problem too. I just applied the fix and rebooted. Thanks Alan! :o) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle Unveils Next Generation Sun Fire x86 Clustered Systems
Will be interesting to see benchmarks! :o) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
