Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
I downloaded it out of curiosity. Looks like it's based on 2008.11 or close?! uname -a contains the string NexentaOS_20081207. The included FF is 3.0.5. The forum posts indicate this is a one man show. Upon boot of the live CD, it complains about Gnome not being installed properly, and I ran gimp (which took forever to load) and it's over two years old. All that together doesn't inspire me to put my eggs in this basket (yet). Have to see where it goes. The iso you downloaded is quite out of date. It is a rolling release now, so not a regular distro upgrade like OpenSolaris or Ubuntu. I believe the repo is going to be based on debian sid now, so it will be quite bleeding edge for Solaris, that part sounds great. Access to latest debian packages, yeehaa! I'm not sure about Xfce though, would have preferred KDE or Gnome myself. The problem is though, at the moment the latest StormOS iso is old and to update it you have to change the repository to the new one hail instead of hardy-hail as it's no longer based off hardy packages. The problem is, it's built on NCP 2, and updating to NCP 3 fails. Basically, unless I'm wrong (if so please tell me) we can't yet try out the latest StormsOS because the upgrade path is broken. Once StormOS have released a new iso based off NCP 3 with the latest repo + base packages, then we can give it a go. Hopefully it won't be long, I'm itching to try it out, not much else to do while we wait for illumos. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
I downloaded it out of curiosity. Looks like it's based on 2008.11 or close?! uname -a contains the string NexentaOS_20081207. The included FF is 3.0.5. The forum posts indicate this is a one man show. Upon boot of the live CD, it complains about Gnome not being installed properly, and I ran gimp (which took forever to load) and it's over two years old. All that together doesn't inspire me to put my eggs in this basket (yet). Have to see where it goes. well...If your intertested in something newer then i recommend Nexenta Core 3 b134f it's based of Opensoalris 134 but you will need to do some tweaking to inorder to get the gui running after it's installed. first follow the directions in installing the xorg, gnome,etc: http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/wiki/FAQ#head-349d597361c796def36b8c424cc96a85682f3512 excerp: Desktop: Where's Xorg, Gnome, ...? Nexenta aims to be a solid core platform (CLI), but we do have xorg, Gnome2, XFCE4 and others in our repository. To get a WM wroking: First install xorg and configure it: apt-get install xorg Xorg -configure Not all of Gnome is in the repository, but most of it is. For Gnome, run: apt-get install gnome-core apt-get install ubuntu-artwork( for some artwork) if you try startx it will return this error: x: unable to determine if running on a console x: user not authorized to run the x server aborting to fix that you need to run as root and choose anybody from the menu, insted of console dpkg-reconfigure x11-common to run firefox: apt-get install firefox if you try to run it, it will return the error: ld.so.1: firefox: fatal: libjemalloc.so: open failed: no such file or directory the work around is: install xulrunner-1.9, and ln -s /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.0.5/libjemalloc.so /usr/lib/libjemalloc.so that is as far i got will contiune get familized with it later on:-) http://judebert.com/progress/archives/158-Starting-a-Stealth-X-Server-Display.html https://bugs.launchpad.net/nexenta/+bug/335267 -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
oops, i forgot to add that apt-get update needs to be executed first to be able to install from the repos:-) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
Hi, I'm the guy that created StormOS and apart from a friend of mine that does the graphics it's a one man show. All ~2000 packages in the repository were put there by myself. The ISO's on the site are _very_ out of date since I decided that my effort would be best spent fixing the underlying system (Nexenta Core Platform) instead of trying to release more ISOs that would look nice but be broken (and very old) underneath. Once the repo is complete enough to debootstrap from I'll push out a new ISO which will essentially be a Debian Sid based GNU/OpenSolaris OS. From there we can bring over the nicer things like GNOME, etc. If you want to use the repo as it stands you should use it with NCP3. Don't forget to use apt-clone to install packages so you can roll-back if something breaks. There is not much in there for the average user right now but there is a boat load of libraries and packages that you'll need to build Debian Sid packages. Andy On 23 August 2010 08:25, Euan Thoms e...@potensol.com wrote: I downloaded it out of curiosity. Looks like it's based on 2008.11 or close?! uname -a contains the string NexentaOS_20081207. The included FF is 3.0.5. The forum posts indicate this is a one man show. Upon boot of the live CD, it complains about Gnome not being installed properly, and I ran gimp (which took forever to load) and it's over two years old. All that together doesn't inspire me to put my eggs in this basket (yet). Have to see where it goes. The iso you downloaded is quite out of date. It is a rolling release now, so not a regular distro upgrade like OpenSolaris or Ubuntu. I believe the repo is going to be based on debian sid now, so it will be quite bleeding edge for Solaris, that part sounds great. Access to latest debian packages, yeehaa! I'm not sure about Xfce though, would have preferred KDE or Gnome myself. The problem is though, at the moment the latest StormOS iso is old and to update it you have to change the repository to the new one hail instead of hardy-hail as it's no longer based off hardy packages. The problem is, it's built on NCP 2, and updating to NCP 3 fails. Basically, unless I'm wrong (if so please tell me) we can't yet try out the latest StormsOS because the upgrade path is broken. Once StormOS have released a new iso based off NCP 3 with the latest repo + base packages, then we can give it a go. Hopefully it won't be long, I'm itching to try it out, not much else to do while we wait for illumos. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
want to add it seems with a chage in env var users get the opensolaris
userland.
note:
SUN_PERSONALITY execve() system call logic implemented and it is finally allows
Solaris-centric scripts to be executed in NexentaOS without modification
file:///tmp/wiki.html#Personalities
Personalities
The default behavior of NexentaOS is to search for execution binaries in order
described in the PATH. Standard locations such as /usr/bin and /usr/sbin all
populated with GNU binaries, which makes NexentaOS behave as GNU system. SUN
binaries saved in /usr/sun/bin and /usr/sun/sbin locations and system could be
forced to use SUN-like personality by utilizing SUN_PERSONALITY environment
variable.
SUN_PERSONALITY execve() system call logic implemented and it is finally allows
Solaris-centric scripts to be executed in NexentaOS without modifications.
Simple SUN_PERSONALITY=1 environment variable will switch execution paths on
the fly to look on /usr/sun/{bin,sbin} first.
nexenta-pkgcmd package using this during alien SVR4=Debian on-the fly
conversion to enable solaris-like environment for SVR4 maintainers scripts.
Example of usage pkgadd to add QLogic SVR4 packaged drivers:
# pkgadd -d Qlogic-x86
Transferring package instance
sunwqlc_5.11-1_solaris-i386.deb generated
Transferring package instance
sunwqlcu_5.11-1_solaris-i386.deb generated
(Reading database ... 62453 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace sunwqlc 5.11-1 (using
sunwqlc_5.11-1_solaris-i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement sunwqlc ...
Preparing to replace sunwqlcu 5.11-1 (using
sunwqlcu_5.11-1_solaris-i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement sunwqlcu ...
Setting up sunwqlc (5.11-1) ...
Reboot client to install driver.
Setting up class: none /kernel/drv/amd64/qlc
4331 blocks
Setting up class: none /kernel/drv/qlc
4331 blocks
Setting up class: qlc /kernel/drv/qlc.conf
Setting up sunwqlcu (5.11-1) ...
# dpkg -l|grep sunwqlc
ii sunwqlc 5.11-1 Qlogic ISP 2200/2202 Fibre Channel Device Dr
ii sunwqlcu 5.11-1 Qlogic Fibre Channel Adapter Utilities (usr)
Those folks who just want to use real Solaris-like environment on NexentaOS
could simple type:
# SUN_PERSONALITY=1 sh
$
All SUN commands like ls,rm,sed,nawk,etc will be on the path even if you
execute them with absolute path, i.e. /usr/bin/sed
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Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
OK, someone 'splain me somethin' I get how Solaris and OpenSolaris work, what packages are, IPS, how to install stuff, and all that. Been doing it for a couple decades. And by the way, I'm still holding out hope for the Solaris 11 developer release to effectively replace OpenSolaris. But I digress. I don't understand much about Linux, so I'm very confused at how Nexenta and StormOS are based on Ubuntu, as the Nexenta web site says. It seems to me it's based on (Open)Solaris. What exactly is the tie-in with Ubuntu and/or Linux? I find this very confusing. Thanks, and please don't just point me to one of their web pages--that's already why I'm confused. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:48 PM, William Bauer bqba...@gmail.com wrote: OK, someone 'splain me somethin' I get how Solaris and OpenSolaris work, what packages are, IPS, how to install stuff, and all that. Been doing it for a couple decades. And by the way, I'm still holding out hope for the Solaris 11 developer release to effectively replace OpenSolaris. But I digress. I don't understand much about Linux, so I'm very confused at how Nexenta and StormOS are based on Ubuntu, as the Nexenta web site says. It seems to me it's based on (Open)Solaris. What exactly is the tie-in with Ubuntu and/or Linux? I find this very confusing. Nexenta uses apt/dpkg pacjaging system, and it provides a repository with about 13000 Ubuntu packages ported to OpenSolaris. So it's the Ubuntu userland on top of OpenSolaris. ~Anil ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
OK, someone 'splain me somethin' I get how Solaris and OpenSolaris work, what packages are, IPS, how to install stuff, and all that. Been doing it for a couple decades. And by the way, I'm still holding out hope for the Solaris 11 developer release to effectively replace OpenSolaris. But I digress. I don't understand much about Linux, so I'm very confused at how Nexenta and StormOS are based on Ubuntu, as the Nexenta web site says. It seems to me it's based on (Open)Solaris. What exactly is the tie-in with Ubuntu and/or Linux? I find this very confusing. Thanks, and please don't just point me to one of their web pages--that's already why I'm confused. The kernel is OpenSolaris; the userland (most of the commands and such) are mostly Debian. Thus, except for features unique to OpenSolaris, it would be more familiar to someone accustomed to Debian or Ubuntu. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS
I downloaded it out of curiosity. Looks like it's based on 2008.11 or close?! uname -a contains the string NexentaOS_20081207. The included FF is 3.0.5. The forum posts indicate this is a one man show. Upon boot of the live CD, it complains about Gnome not being installed properly, and I ran gimp (which took forever to load) and it's over two years old. All that together doesn't inspire me to put my eggs in this basket (yet). Have to see where it goes. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
