Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
Logged to aditi w/o issue Second Life 3.3.3 (257957) May 24 2012 17:25:24 (Second Life Development) Release Notes You are at 255426.0, 256396.0, 32.9 in Morris located at sim7028.aditi.lindenlab.com (216.82.40.145:12035) Second Life Server 12.04.30.255166 Release Notes CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20GHz (3201 MHz) Memory: 7932 MB OS Version: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun May 6 04:00:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5450 OpenGL Version: 4.2.11566 Compatibility Profile Context libcurl Version: libcurl/7.21.1 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5 c-ares/1.7.1 J2C Decoder Version: KDU v6.4.1 Audio Driver Version: OpenAL, version 1.1 ALSOFT 1.11.753 / OpenAL Community / OpenAL Soft: PulseAudio Software Qt Webkit Version: 4.7.1 (version number hard-coded) Voice Server Version: Vivox 3.2.0002.10426 Built with GCC version 40103 Packets Lost: 0/2662 (0.0%) > > From: Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) >To: opensource-dev >Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 1:27 PM >Subject: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed. > >We're working on upgrading our Linux viewer build toolchain (moving to >Debian Squeeze)... > >I've got a test build that I'd like some Linux users to try to see if it >works for them: > >http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/don_viewer-development/rev/257957/arch/Linux/installer/SecondLife-i686-3.3.3.257957.tar.bz2 > >Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues yet, >please). > >___ >Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev >Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges > > >___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
Do you have any specific tests to run? > > From: Nicky Perian >To: Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) ; opensource-dev > >Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 1:56 PM >Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed. > > >Logged to aditi w/o issue > > >Second Life 3.3.3 (257957) May 24 2012 17:25:24 (Second Life Development) >Release Notes > > >You are at 255426.0, 256396.0, 32.9 in Morris located at >sim7028.aditi.lindenlab.com (216.82.40.145:12035) >Second Life Server 12.04.30.255166 >Release Notes > > >CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20GHz (3201 MHz) >Memory: 7932 MB >OS Version: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Sun May 6 04:00:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 >Graphics Card Vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. >Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5450 > > >OpenGL Version: 4.2.11566 Compatibility Profile Context > > >libcurl Version: libcurl/7.21.1 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5 c-ares/1.7.1 >J2C Decoder Version: KDU v6.4.1 >Audio Driver Version: OpenAL, version 1.1 ALSOFT 1.11.753 / OpenAL Community / >OpenAL Soft: PulseAudio Software >Qt Webkit Version: 4.7.1 (version number hard-coded) >Voice Server Version: Vivox 3.2.0002.10426 > > >Built with GCC version 40103 >Packets Lost: 0/2662 (0.0%) > > > >> >> From: Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) >>To: opensource-dev >>Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 1:27 PM >>Subject: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed. >> >>We're working on upgrading our Linux viewer build toolchain (moving to >>Debian Squeeze)... >> >>I've got a test build that I'd like some Linux users to try to see if it >>works for them: >> >>http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/don_viewer-development/rev/257957/arch/Linux/installer/SecondLife-i686-3.3.3.257957.tar.bz2 >> >>Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues yet, >>please). >> >>___ >>Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >>http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev >>Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges >> >> >> > >___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On 2012-06-05 14:56 , Nicky Perian wrote: > Logged to aditi w/o issue What I'm after is ... does this work on the flavor of Linux you are running, and what flavor is that? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2012, 21:07:45 schrieb Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence): > What I'm after is ... does this work on the flavor of Linux you are > running, and what flavor is that? Runs perfectly under openSUSE 11.4. Zi ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
Oz, as an aside.. Is there a plan to ever support building non-standalone on Linux 64bit without installing 32bit libraries or workarounds? It can be a nightmare with some distributions, and being forced to compile it as 32bit in 2012 just feels..wrong. Pretty much all that blocks it is a lack of differentiation between 32bit and 64bit Linux in Autobuild, and offering prebuilt libs that got compiled under 64bit once that's in place. --Chalice Yao On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > On 2012-06-05 14:56 , Nicky Perian wrote: >> Logged to aditi w/o issue > > What I'm after is ... does this work on the flavor of Linux you are > running, and what flavor is that? > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
> Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues yet, > please). Crashes on startup on Debian Sid (see STORM-1854) ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On 2012-06-05 15:33 , Johnnie Carling wrote: >> Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues yet, >> please). > Crashes on startup on Debian Sid (see STORM-1854) Bug-for-bug-compatible ! ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2012, 15:07:45 schrieb Oz Linden: > On 2012-06-05 14:56 , Nicky Perian wrote: > > Logged to aditi w/o issue > > What I'm after is ... does this work on the flavor of Linux you are > running, and what flavor is that? Works on openSUSE 12.1 64bit. bye, LC ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On 2012-06-05 15:31 , Ambrosia wrote: > Oz, as an aside.. > > Is there a plan to ever support building non-standalone on Linux 64bit > without installing 32bit libraries or workarounds? It can be a > nightmare with some distributions, and being forced to compile it as > 32bit in 2012 just feels..wrong. > Pretty much all that blocks it is a lack of differentiation between > 32bit and 64bit Linux in Autobuild, and offering prebuilt libs that > got compiled under 64bit once that's in place. There is no plan to do this. There is also not a plan not to do it. I don't know whether or not the new build systems this was created on are any better set up for 64 bit building than the old one they will replace were (I'll find out). However, even if they are, doing the work to rebuild and retest all the components and the viewer itself is not a priority for Linden Lab. If it happens that the build systems are already going to be 64 bit capable, and some open source developer (or team) wants to take on doing the job, I can coordinate the requisite access. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
Xubuntu 12.04 (32-bit) on early Acer Aspire One (2G ram, Intel 945GME chipset -- intel DRI driver in i915 mode, Atom N270). Installed properly, ran, logged in to last location, teleported to home, poked inventory to start loading. WiFi hotspot cut out, and I got the proper "you have been logged out" behavior from the viewer. Clean shutdown. Smoke test shows no obvious differences from the standard release on this system. Sodo On 12-06-05 02:27 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > We're working on upgrading our Linux viewer build toolchain (moving to > Debian Squeeze)... > > I've got a test build that I'd like some Linux users to try to see if it > works for them: > > http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/don_viewer-development/rev/257957/arch/Linux/installer/SecondLife-i686-3.3.3.257957.tar.bz2 > > Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues yet, > please). > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
Works as expected under Ubuntu 12.04 (AMD/gnome). Freezing bug when saving a texture https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-28846 still present. Seems bug-for-bug compatible to me. 2012/6/5 Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) > We're working on upgrading our Linux viewer build toolchain (moving to > Debian Squeeze)... > > I've got a test build that I'd like some Linux users to try to see if it > works for them: > > > http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/don_viewer-development/rev/257957/arch/Linux/installer/SecondLife-i686-3.3.3.257957.tar.bz2 > > Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues yet, > please). > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev > Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting > privileges > ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:27:00 -0400 "Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)" wrote: > I've got a test build that I'd like some Linux users to try to see > if it works for them: > > > Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues > yet, please). > > Logged into main grid with it right now on Fedora 17 64-bit. it doesn't seem to have that strange neck glitch issue I've reported for 3.3.3-258xxx on up. Second Life 3.3.3 (257957) May 24 2012 17:25:24 (Second Life Development) Release Notes You are at 259515.0, 211842.0, 29.5 in Pantucket located at sim5859.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.15.88:13001) Second Life Server 12.06.04.258754 Release Notes CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor (2800 MHz) Memory: 3011 MB OS Version: Linux 3.3.7-1.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon May 21 22:32:19 UTC 2012 x86_64 Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.53 CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:31:51 +0200 Ambrosia wrote: > Oz, as an aside.. > > Is there a plan to ever support building non-standalone on Linux > 64bit without installing 32bit libraries or workarounds? It can be a > nightmare with some distributions, and being forced to compile it as > 32bit in 2012 just feels..wrong. Soft Linden told me that he suggested 64-bit back in 2008, given the state of 32-bit compatibility in 64-bit distros. Also said Linux was a tiny segment and most Linux users were running 32-bit. (ubuntu SL users having twice the number of other distro users...combined) I suggested that one of the reasons for some SL Linux users running 32 was the fact that it's a pain in the ass to get SL releases running on 64-bit. And it's annoying to no end that I have to install 32 bit flash just so I can have flash on web-on-a-prim work. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:59:18 -0400 "Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)" wrote: > There is no plan to do this. > > There is also not a plan not to do it. > Sigh...wasn't this suggested thing to do...4 years ago. I know I complained about the lack of a 64-bit builds of LL releases 2 years ago on my blog. > I don't know whether or not the new build systems this was created > on are any better set up for 64 bit building than the old one they > will replace were (I'll find out). It's 2012, they had better have a 64 bit Linux installed. > However, even if they are, > doing the work to rebuild and retest all the components and the > viewer itself is not a priority for Linden Lab. What is LL's priority, then. Linux users tend to be early adopter/tech evangelists. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make such users happy by making SL easier and less annoying to install for them. I know if a 64-bit build showed up, I'd certainly be crowing about it on the blog and praising the Lindens for doing so. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
fuck off take me off your list -Original Message- From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com [mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com] On Behalf Of Ron Rogers Jr. Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 11:00 AM To: opensource-dev@lists.secondlife.com Subject: Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed. On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:59:18 -0400 "Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)" wrote: > There is no plan to do this. > > There is also not a plan not to do it. > Sigh...wasn't this suggested thing to do...4 years ago. I know I complained about the lack of a 64-bit builds of LL releases 2 years ago on my blog. > I don't know whether or not the new build systems this was created on > are any better set up for 64 bit building than the old one they will > replace were (I'll find out). It's 2012, they had better have a 64 bit Linux installed. > However, even if they are, > doing the work to rebuild and retest all the components and the viewer > itself is not a priority for Linden Lab. What is LL's priority, then. Linux users tend to be early adopter/tech evangelists. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make such users happy by making SL easier and less annoying to install for them. I know if a 64-bit build showed up, I'd certainly be crowing about it on the blog and praising the Lindens for doing so. CronoCloud ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
I believe the main challenge is to rebuild all the third party dependencies in 64bit ... ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:59:02 -0700 Christian Goetze wrote: > I believe the main challenge is to rebuild all the third party > dependencies in 64bit ... Rofl - something that LL certainly isn't capable of ;) Loads of third party viewers have done this already however. I have never used anything else than a native 64-bit build, ever since I started using SL. -- Carlo Wood ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
Runs as well as any other release on FreeBSD 8.3-Release amd64 w/ f10 linuxulator. Kind regards, -Cinder On 6/5/2012 12:27 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > We're working on upgrading our Linux viewer build toolchain (moving to > Debian Squeeze)... > > I've got a test build that I'd like some Linux users to try to see if it > works for them: > > http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/don_viewer-development/rev/257957/arch/Linux/installer/SecondLife-i686-3.3.3.257957.tar.bz2 > > Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues yet, > please). ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
