Re: [opensuse] Strangest SUSE conversion ever :)
I've got a Kodak c360 and it doesn't work on suse 10.1 at all(not even plugging it as a mass-storage drive...). Previosly I had a HP that worked fine with digicam. Also I've got recently a HP multifuntion printer 2575 and it works but not as feature richless than on XP. And of course on suse sometimes suse fails to print. |-+> | | | | | Víctor Fernández | | | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | | | | | 03/10/2006 07:11 | |-+> >--| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | >--| |-> | | |-> >--| | Para: opensuse@opensuse.org | | cc: | | Asunto:Re: [opensuse] Strangest SUSE conversion ever :)| |Clasificación: (Embedded image moved to file: pic31907.jpg) | >--| If you use the camera as a mass-storage device, it should work out of the box, like any pendrive or USB hard drive. El Martes, 3 de Octubre de 2006 06:45, John escribió: > His camera worked? Been meaning to ask- I have 10.1 running on an older > laptop (PIII/600) and the camera doesn't register when I plug it in. I > know the usb connection works, since 10.1 sees the usb thumb drive when > I plug it in. I take it, there must be a tweek that I overlooked > > John > > Justin Haygood wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >My little brother switched to OpenSUSE today! > > > >Reasons: > > * Didn't have to plop out alot of money on Microsoft Office (and OOo > >looks ugly in XP) > > * His iPod just works.. iTunes crashes all the time on his PC > > * His digital camera just works > > * Printer sharing? Alot more reliable > > > >This is on an older Dimension 2400 that came stock with Windows XP, > >converted to SUSE Linux 10.1 w/ GNOME. Gotta say, if people just use it > >once, they are amazed at how much better it is (and not just morally and > >ethically) :) > > > >- --Justin > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > >Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > >iD8DBQFFIeTVVNg2nHvclOMRAj5SAJ9jyXOSscFpnNGo/CZGtXZcXH7/MACePpnT > >wbODZsZb/GJj9WUj+NYoXPc= > >=H9UG > >-END PGP SIGNATURE- > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Enviado especial a Innsbruck (Austria) para informar de las fiestas Erasmus en la capital tirolesa. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Mensaje analizado y protegido, tecnologia antivirus www.trendmicro.es Antes de imprimir piensa en tu responsabilidad y compromiso con el MEDI
Re: [opensuse] Strangest SUSE conversion ever :)
If you use the camera as a mass-storage device, it should work out of the box, like any pendrive or USB hard drive. El Martes, 3 de Octubre de 2006 06:45, John escribió: > His camera worked? Been meaning to ask- I have 10.1 running on an older > laptop (PIII/600) and the camera doesn't register when I plug it in. I > know the usb connection works, since 10.1 sees the usb thumb drive when > I plug it in. I take it, there must be a tweek that I overlooked > > John > > Justin Haygood wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >My little brother switched to OpenSUSE today! > > > >Reasons: > > * Didn't have to plop out alot of money on Microsoft Office (and OOo > >looks ugly in XP) > > * His iPod just works.. iTunes crashes all the time on his PC > > * His digital camera just works > > * Printer sharing? Alot more reliable > > > >This is on an older Dimension 2400 that came stock with Windows XP, > >converted to SUSE Linux 10.1 w/ GNOME. Gotta say, if people just use it > >once, they are amazed at how much better it is (and not just morally and > >ethically) :) > > > >- --Justin > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > >Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > >Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > > >iD8DBQFFIeTVVNg2nHvclOMRAj5SAJ9jyXOSscFpnNGo/CZGtXZcXH7/MACePpnT > >wbODZsZb/GJj9WUj+NYoXPc= > >=H9UG > >-END PGP SIGNATURE- > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Víctor Fernández Martínez Enviado especial a Innsbruck (Austria) para informar de las fiestas Erasmus en la capital tirolesa. Usuario de Linux registrado #312284 en http://counter.li.org. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Strangest SUSE conversion ever :)
His camera worked? Been meaning to ask- I have 10.1 running on an older laptop (PIII/600) and the camera doesn't register when I plug it in. I know the usb connection works, since 10.1 sees the usb thumb drive when I plug it in. I take it, there must be a tweek that I overlooked John Justin Haygood wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My little brother switched to OpenSUSE today! Reasons: * Didn't have to plop out alot of money on Microsoft Office (and OOo looks ugly in XP) * His iPod just works.. iTunes crashes all the time on his PC * His digital camera just works * Printer sharing? Alot more reliable This is on an older Dimension 2400 that came stock with Windows XP, converted to SUSE Linux 10.1 w/ GNOME. Gotta say, if people just use it once, they are amazed at how much better it is (and not just morally and ethically) :) - --Justin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFIeTVVNg2nHvclOMRAj5SAJ9jyXOSscFpnNGo/CZGtXZcXH7/MACePpnT wbODZsZb/GJj9WUj+NYoXPc= =H9UG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Strangest SUSE conversion ever :)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My little brother switched to OpenSUSE today! Reasons: * Didn't have to plop out alot of money on Microsoft Office (and OOo looks ugly in XP) * His iPod just works.. iTunes crashes all the time on his PC * His digital camera just works * Printer sharing? Alot more reliable This is on an older Dimension 2400 that came stock with Windows XP, converted to SUSE Linux 10.1 w/ GNOME. Gotta say, if people just use it once, they are amazed at how much better it is (and not just morally and ethically) :) - --Justin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFIeTVVNg2nHvclOMRAj5SAJ9jyXOSscFpnNGo/CZGtXZcXH7/MACePpnT wbODZsZb/GJj9WUj+NYoXPc= =H9UG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] needed tsalagi (cherokee) keymap not provided in X, how to add? create?
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[Fwd: Re: [opensuse] Reply-To decision by vote]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Funny thing happened. When you speak of the devil, I end up sending a mail to Clayton instead of the list. Ironic. "It's like rin, on you wedding day... " - Original post Clayton wrote: > 5. A very small number know about the patch for Thunderbird that adds > in the Reply-to functionality. So what is the secret incantation that can help me make Thunderbird behave like that? On the point of voting, I would vote for newbie friendliness. I think Clayton hit the nail square on the head. - -- Regards Kenneth Aar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFIXSWMrkZx1uu3OwRAtHZAJ47JQ/R3vpS04gU5+9a7haXfM1YJwCgtBg+ 6XfTJr4PeT+UQRItBJgG9CA= =HPuz -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
JP Rosevear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not bumping the rev would be fine if no source and no deps changed, but > the problem is that deps of the RPM will change right now and the rev > will not be bumped, which seems incorrect. See the discussion we have in bugzilla. The important point is that customers should always see a different package version if anything has changed. Which is fine for release products. But with FACTORY going out daily, we have to change the scripts for FACTORY to increase the revisions as needed, let's see how this can be done in the best way, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpTXO2n2IzBb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 12:29 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:14:22AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > >> Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > No, you don't. You updated the db package (which is definitely part of > >> > the > >> > >> That's a bug ;-( > > > > This is what I am saying for years now but received only really stupid > > answers > > in response to that like: "We don't consider this a problem for us > > internally". > > > >> We rebuild that often that people often asked: What's the difference > >> between version -9 and -20? And we have to answer: Just rebuild with > >> newer packages. It would be great to only increase the number if a > > > > So what you are basically saying is that you fear that some people ask > > quetions and prefer incorrectness of the system over just answering these > > questions? Didn't expect you to be that reclusive. > > I was a bit short: The problem is especially with release products. > Your release today -9 and in a month -20 - with just one change. This > confused a lot of customers and partners, they asked for the other 10 > changes... Not bumping the rev would be fine if no source and no deps changed, but the problem is that deps of the RPM will change right now and the rev will not be bumped, which seems incorrect. -JP -- JP Rosevear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novell, Inc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
On Oct 02, 06 11:26:08 +0200, Robert Schiele wrote: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:14:22AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > > Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > No, you don't. You updated the db package (which is definitely part of > > > the > > > > That's a bug ;-( Sorry, my fault. I skipped a few steps. Release numbers should be incremented on next sync now. cheers, Jw. -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _===.===_ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wide open suse_/_---|\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 (tm)__/ (//\ (/) | __/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 12:29:40PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > I was a bit short: The problem is especially with release products. > Your release today -9 and in a month -20 - with just one change. This > confused a lot of customers and partners, they asked for the other 10 > changes... You must have really stupid customers and partners. Accept my deep sympathy for this. > > Huh? What is the real _problem_ with just telling the truth that the > > package > > number increased due to a dependency rebuild? > > People just not getting it. :-(. Trust me, this is a real problem. So development decission are typically driven by people that have no clue? Interesting... Honestly, if I have to decide in a project I tend to run away from vendors that do the wrong thing just because some stupid people ask them to do so. But I agree with you that if you have more stupid customers than intelligent ones it might be smarter to serve the stupid ones. I still wonder where all these stupid people come from. If I explain dependency resolution algorithms to our freshman students most of them get it. Robert -- Robert Schiele Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur." pgpvz70stesuC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:14:22AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > No, you don't. You updated the db package (which is definitely part of the >> >> That's a bug ;-( > > This is what I am saying for years now but received only really stupid answers > in response to that like: "We don't consider this a problem for us > internally". > >> We rebuild that often that people often asked: What's the difference >> between version -9 and -20? And we have to answer: Just rebuild with >> newer packages. It would be great to only increase the number if a > > So what you are basically saying is that you fear that some people ask > quetions and prefer incorrectness of the system over just answering these > questions? Didn't expect you to be that reclusive. I was a bit short: The problem is especially with release products. Your release today -9 and in a month -20 - with just one change. This confused a lot of customers and partners, they asked for the other 10 changes... > >> dependend package changes the ABI. > > Well, until you did implement that just expect _every_ rebuild to result in an > ABI change. If you expected the ABI not to change you wouldn't need to > rebuild. > >> So, neither solution is really good. > > Huh? What is the real _problem_ with just telling the truth that the package > number increased due to a dependency rebuild? People just not getting it. :-(. Trust me, this is a real problem. But it might be different for FACTORY and released products... >> Could you file a bugreport against basesystem, please? I'll take care >> of it and discuss with Rudi once he's back from vacation how to >> finally solve this. > > Ok, did so now. Is there also a chance that this discussion will not again > take place completely behind the curtain without getting any resons for the > final decision. Let's try it ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgp2AUW2y6Zbg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:14:22AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > No, you don't. You updated the db package (which is definitely part of the > > That's a bug ;-( This is what I am saying for years now but received only really stupid answers in response to that like: "We don't consider this a problem for us internally". > We rebuild that often that people often asked: What's the difference > between version -9 and -20? And we have to answer: Just rebuild with > newer packages. It would be great to only increase the number if a So what you are basically saying is that you fear that some people ask quetions and prefer incorrectness of the system over just answering these questions? Didn't expect you to be that reclusive. > dependend package changes the ABI. Well, until you did implement that just expect _every_ rebuild to result in an ABI change. If you expected the ABI not to change you wouldn't need to rebuild. > So, neither solution is really good. Huh? What is the real _problem_ with just telling the truth that the package number increased due to a dependency rebuild? > Could you file a bugreport against basesystem, please? I'll take care > of it and discuss with Rudi once he's back from vacation how to > finally solve this. Ok, did so now. Is there also a chance that this discussion will not again take place completely behind the curtain without getting any resons for the final decision. Robert -- Robert Schiele Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur." pgpkdjkfSVIBH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 09:30:30AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: >> Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > Ok, sice nobody could answer this for more than 5 months now it seems that >> > there is nobody here that has a clue about this bug. >> >> Sorry, if this got lost. >> >> > Just wanted to inform you that YaST cannot handle this situation correctly >> > and >> > decides on update to delete all affected packages ignoring dependencies >> > even >> > when the affected packages are part of the vital base system like perl. >> > Expect that ignoring this problem will get back at you at a later point in >> > time but since you get either no or just a stupid answer when talking about >> > this to someone I will now just sit down and wait for the disaster... >> >> We increment it now whenever we do a checkin of the basesystem. Would >> this still cause problems? > > No, you don't. You updated the db package (which is definitely part of the That's a bug ;-( > base system) to 4.4 release but did _not_ increase the number thus causing > YaST to decide to destroy the installed system on upgrade. > > But I repeat the question: Is there a _serious_ reason at all for not updating > the release number when the package is rebuilt? We rebuild that often that people often asked: What's the difference between version -9 and -20? And we have to answer: Just rebuild with newer packages. It would be great to only increase the number if a dependend package changes the ABI. So, neither solution is really good. Could you file a bugreport against basesystem, please? I'll take care of it and discuss with Rudi once he's back from vacation how to finally solve this. Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpQOWrQ9piBK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 09:30:30AM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ok, sice nobody could answer this for more than 5 months now it seems that > > there is nobody here that has a clue about this bug. > > Sorry, if this got lost. > > > Just wanted to inform you that YaST cannot handle this situation correctly > > and > > decides on update to delete all affected packages ignoring dependencies even > > when the affected packages are part of the vital base system like perl. > > Expect that ignoring this problem will get back at you at a later point in > > time but since you get either no or just a stupid answer when talking about > > this to someone I will now just sit down and wait for the disaster... > > We increment it now whenever we do a checkin of the basesystem. Would > this still cause problems? No, you don't. You updated the db package (which is definitely part of the base system) to 4.4 release but did _not_ increase the number thus causing YaST to decide to destroy the installed system on upgrade. But I repeat the question: Is there a _serious_ reason at all for not updating the release number when the package is rebuilt? Robert -- Robert Schiele Dipl.-Wirtsch.informatiker mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur." pgpvzUri7eewX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] eject a DVD without Gnome/KDE
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote > My cdrom drive is /dev/hdc. Modify the snippet below to fit your > needs and insert it into .ivman/IvmConfigConditions.xml: > > > > > That's strange here. Pressing the button works sometimes, sometimes not. That's with or without the code added to IvmConfigConditions.xml. When it does not work, I don't even see any reaction in the logfile (called ivman with -d) when presing the button. Just like the event didn't reach ivman. However, when it works, it works even without the code in IvmConfigConditions.xml. This is very confusing :-) cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. BioinformatikMail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. * - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.1 RC1 to final by updating RPMs?
Robert Schiele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, sice nobody could answer this for more than 5 months now it seems that > there is nobody here that has a clue about this bug. Sorry, if this got lost. > Just wanted to inform you that YaST cannot handle this situation correctly and > decides on update to delete all affected packages ignoring dependencies even > when the affected packages are part of the vital base system like perl. > Expect that ignoring this problem will get back at you at a later point in > time but since you get either no or just a stupid answer when talking about > this to someone I will now just sit down and wait for the disaster... We increment it now whenever we do a checkin of the basesystem. Would this still cause problems? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpxBff3V1Wv2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] su not resetting PATH anymore?
Christian Boltz wrote > http://suse-linux-faq.koehntopp.de/q/q-suse100-su_path.html (german) > > Short answer: set ALWAYS_SET_PATH=yes in /etc/default/su Thanks a lot :-)) -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. BioinformatikMail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. * - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
