date:20061113

I've upgraded the kernel just today to check if this solves the problem. So 
the only packages which are left are mozilla-nss and mozilla-nspr. Would this 
also explain the "freezes" in Konqueror? Does it use these libraries?
  

Those two packages actually made things better for me, and they only
were installed when I decided to try to compile seamonkey locally (which
failed, btw :-( ). Compiling seamonkey requires mozilla-nss-devel, which
requires mozilla-nspr-devel, plus both library packages. I only tried to
compile seamonkey after I saw that installing it did not help the same
problem with mozilla suite.

Since you are seeing Konqueror freeze and I am not, I do not think my
problem is remotely related to yours. Of course, I could be wrong :-)


Can you still use Firefox during the freeze or is it totally frozen? 
Well I can still use it.


I hope somebody has an idea because these freezes are really annoying!
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Re: [opensuse] SuSE 9.3 upgrade to 10.0 issue with /dev/dsp

2006-11-13 Thread Masaru Nomiya

Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: [opensuse] SuSE 9.3 upgrade to 10.0 issue with /dev/dsp
  Message-ID : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Date & Time: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:42:24 -0800

[Scott] == Scott Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has written:


Scott> I finally got around to upgrading from 9.3 to 10.0 and I'm having an 
issue I 
Scott> hope someone can clear up for me. Festival stopped working, it complains
Scott> that /dev/dsp doesn't exist (and it's right, no /dev/dsp* files show up).

Isn't this?

> In the Message: [suse-linux-e ML: No.276230]
>   with the date of Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:13:45 +0200 (CEST)
> [Carlos] == "Carlos E. R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has written:

Rafael>> Maybe you need to have /usr/lib/festival included in the PATH variable.

Carlos> .AN!Surprise! You are right...

Carlos> I created a symlink to /usr/lib/festival/audsp in ~/bin, and it 
worked...

Carlos> It seems an overkill to change the path for a single file in that dir. 
Carlos> I'll make a permanent symlink somewhere in the path instead:

Carlos> ln -s /usr/lib/festival/audsp /usr/bin/audsp

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

On 2006-11-13 02:18, Sven Jacobs wrote:
> 
> Can you still use Firefox during the freeze or is it totally frozen?
> Well I can still use it.
Seamonkey, actually, and before that the Mozilla suite. Until I
installed mozilla-nss and mozilla-nspr, it was so slow as to be useless.
Now I can use it, but everything takes a lot longer to happen.
>
> I hope somebody has an idea because these freezes are really annoying!
So do I.


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Re: [opensuse] USB 2.0 external

On Sunday 12 November 2006 23:07, jdd wrote:
> John Andersen a écrit :
> > There is no difference in external cables.
>
> yes they are...
>
> but is you use the box provaded cable it should work. (I had
> mayself the same problem with a spare cable)
> jdd

USB cables are 4 wires. Period.
The specifications of the cable and connectors has not changed since
USB 1.0, other than adding mini-connectors. Any fully rated usb 1.0 or 1.1
cable with the proper connectors will meet the usb 2.0 specs.

There are no electronics.  Its just wire.  Go read the USB specs.
Chapter 7.

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

2006-11-13 Thread Pete Connolly

On Monday 13 November 2006 08:26, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2006-11-13 02:18, Sven Jacobs wrote:
> > 
> > Can you still use Firefox during the freeze or is it totally frozen?
> > Well I can still use it.
>
> Seamonkey, actually, and before that the Mozilla suite. Until I
> installed mozilla-nss and mozilla-nspr, it was so slow as to be useless.
> Now I can use it, but everything takes a lot longer to happen.
>
> > I hope somebody has an idea because these freezes are really annoying!
>
> So do I.

Just as an aside, do you think it might be something to do with IPV6?  Ive not 
updated the kernel to the same version as Sven's, but after tweaking both the 
sysconfig settings and Firefox's about:config page to ignore IPV6, my browser 
hasn't had a freeze or pause on a site for a long time.

Just a thought.

Cheers

Pete
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RE: [opensuse] Yast config file?

2006-11-13 Thread Chiu, PCM (Peter)

Hi, 

May I ask what version of Suse that you are referring to regarding the
You configuraiton files?

I looked into Suse 10.1 but failed to locate them...

Peter

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From: Darryl Gregorash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 November 2006 00:55
To: opensuse@opensuse.org
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Yast config file?

On 2006-11-12 17:53, cifroes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What's the file where Yast stores the mirrors that we add in the GUI 
> stuff?
>
The "add software" stuff is stored in several files
/var/adm/Yast/InstSrcManager/IS_CACHE_/DESCRIPTION/descripti
on,
where  is an 8-byte hexadecimal number. Each source has its
own directory, eg. IS_CACHE_0x0001, IS_CACHE_0x0002, and so on.

For YOU, the list of servers that YOU downloads is stored in
/var/lib/YaST2/you/youservers, and this file will likely change every
time you do an update. Any YOU servers you add yourself are stored in
/var/lib/YaST2/you/config, but it appears as if only the last server you
defined is actually stored in the file.

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[opensuse] System CPU and memory usage logger.

2006-11-13 Thread Hans van der Merwe


Im looking for an app to log my current processes CPU and mem usage.
Something that will basically dump top results in an usable file struct
every x seconds.




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Re: [opensuse] System CPU and memory usage logger.

2006-11-13 Thread David Mayr


> Im looking for an app to log my current processes CPU and mem usage.
> Something that will basically dump top results in an usable file struct
> every x seconds.

If you're looking for something andvanced, try cacti (http://cacti.net).
It generates many nice graphs for your Browser - not only CPU/Mem/Procs ...


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[opensuse] Re: [SLE] Belkin Wireless G Plus Desktop Card F5D7001 Installed in SuSE 10.1

2006-11-13 Thread wmeler

Thanks!I have the WinXP driver...it is working perfectly in XP...Where do I get the 10.1 rpm for ndiswrapper?  been looking around to no avail.-- Cheers,wmeler

Re: [opensuse] USB 2.0 external

2006-11-13 Thread jdd


John Andersen a écrit :

On Sunday 12 November 2006 23:07, jdd wrote:

John Andersen a écrit :

There is no difference in external cables.

yes they are...

but is you use the box provaded cable it should work. (I had
mayself the same problem with a spare cable)
jdd


USB cables are 4 wires. Period.
The specifications of the cable and connectors has not changed since
USB 1.0, other than adding mini-connectors. Any fully rated usb 1.0 or 1.1
cable with the proper connectors will meet the usb 2.0 specs.

There are no electronics.  Its just wire.  Go read the USB specs.
Chapter 7.

no matter the spec, there are good cables and bad cables, 
period. it's so easy to test I don't understand why you don't


jdd

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Re: [opensuse] problem importing key

2006-11-13 Thread Marcel Broekman

Op maandag 13 november 2006 02:18, schreef John Andersen:
> On Sunday 12 November 2006 13:00, Marcel Broekman wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > When tring to install a "guru" package with smart, I get the following:
> >
> > 
> > The above GPG key has been imported successfully.
> > It is required to install this package:
> >
> > 
> >
> > What's up with that? I don't understand. Could someone explain what I
> > should do to get this going?
>
> There has been a great deal of flakyness with key servers of late.  Some
> have become totally unresponsive.  I've had to switch my default
> key server a couple times lately, currently using
> hkp://blackhole.pca.dfn.de which seems to work fine.
>
> If you have an unreliable default key server, the calling process will
> often time out before GnuPG coughs up the key.


Hi John,

I had already upgraded to the latest version of smart, like Bob suggested, but 
that didn't help, so now i'm trying to find a way to change the default key 
server ;-) How is this done? I couldn't find any relevant configuration file 
(for regular users this would be ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf, but that doesn't exist 
for root?).

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

Just as an aside, do you think it might be something to do with IPV6?  Ive not 
updated the kernel to the same version as Sven's, but after tweaking both the 
sysconfig settings and Firefox's about:config page to ignore IPV6, my browser 
hasn't had a freeze or pause on a site for a long time.


Just a thought.


Well, I will try that as soon as I'm home! Could this behavior also be 
provoked by a wrong MTU value on the router and/or the network device?


In contrary to my first statement I noticed yesterday that browsing on 
my other computer (also OpenSuSE 10.1) is slow, too.


I'm almost sure that the MTU on my router is set to 1492.
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Re: [opensuse] Duplicate mails

2006-11-13 Thread Peter Cannon

On Sunday 12 November 2006 13:19, Bjørn Lie wrote:

> Open 2 mails that are duplicates. This for instance. View the complete
> headers, are they being delivered to 2 different email addresses,
> meaning were you subscribed to both opensuse@opensuse.org and
> suse-linux-e@suse.com before the switch, but with 2 different
> email-addresses?
> Or even better, email 2 duplicates to this list with complete headers so
> we can try to make heads and tails of them.

Morning All

It may be my fault I have two registrations
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2. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Now on this Laptop I'm not getting any duplicates but having said that its 
only got the peter@ account so theres something flaky going on with the 
lightstar@ account however I'm sure lightstar is not subscribed to opensuse.

I cant check my SuSE box at home until Tuesday night

P.S. My original and subsequent posts are not showing up on this machine 
which??

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Re: [opensuse] SuSE 9.3 upgrade to 10.0 issue with /dev/dsp

2006-11-13 Thread Luciano Mannucci

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:42:24 -0800
Scott Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Some googling around came up with one solution that seems to work,
> adding the code below to the /etc/init.d/alsasound script in the start
> section.
> 
> if [ ! -c /dev/dsp ]; then
>mknod -m 0666 /dev/dsp c 14 3
>$0 restart
> fi
> 
> That seems like a kludge though, since it doesn't really address 
> whatever is really wrong. Is anyone aware of a better solution?
There is nothing wrong, I think. It's a consequence of the ugly
udev subsystem, used instead of the normal /dev without any real
need. (That's the main reason why I don't recommend SUSE any more
to my customers).
You may choose to tell udev to make the node, though I never tried
this.

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

On 2006-11-13 03:10, Pete Connolly wrote:
>
>
> Just as an aside, do you think it might be something to do with IPV6?  Ive 
> not 
> updated the kernel to the same version as Sven's, but after tweaking both the 
> sysconfig settings and Firefox's about:config page to ignore IPV6, my browser 
> hasn't had a freeze or pause on a site for a long time.
>   
Anything's worth a look, I suppose, but this would not explain why
Mozilla worked very well for so long, then without warning began to give
me such a problem. I have had IPv6 disabled in sysconfig since I figured
out how, and that seemed to take care of any hassles with Mozilla (that
in fact was the recommended solution for it back then).

Now we shall see if the additional setting in about:config will make a
difference.


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Re: [opensuse] Yast config file?

On 2006-11-13 03:18, Chiu, PCM (Peter) wrote:
> Hi, 
>
> May I ask what version of Suse that you are referring to regarding the
> You configuraiton files?
>
> I looked into Suse 10.1 but failed to locate them...
>
> Peter
>
> -Original Message 
OK, I'm using 9.3

In 10.1 you have yast as well as that zen/zmd updater thing, or whatever
it's called. I am sure Yast will have one or more directories in /var,
with /var/lib/ and /var/adm being the most likely. You can find them
with the following command: "find /var -type d -iname "yast*". Once
you've located the yast directories, it should be easy to find the
files/directories with the server information -- using grep/egrep etc if
you need to.

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

On Monday 13 November 2006 00:50, Sven Jacobs wrote:
> In contrary to my first statement I noticed yesterday that browsing on
> my other computer (also OpenSuSE 10.1) is slow, too.

Any Skype or bit torrent clients running?

I find that the Linux version of Skype will take down my Netgear router
if I am using the wireless portion.  Hardwired it works fine.

If you do a netstat -anp  you will see a HUGE amount of sockets 
running for a bit torrent client or skype or Edonkey.  Those may
exceed the capabilities of small routers.

Also I have found that NOT using the DNS server in the routers
that have them often is faster.  Some routers just pass that through
anyway, but others try to run a slim version of bind or some such.

If i suspect it is slow DNS, I edit my /etc/resolv.conf and reverse the
two server entries so that I am using my ISPs secondary DNS server.
I often find that is faster as it has less work to do unless and until the
primary fails.

I've also seen page requests just sit there and grind, but upon clicking
Stop and Re-Request (clicking the link again) it goes instantly.

However, my experiences have been equally bad with windows and
linux. Firefox or Mozilla on both platforms.

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests


Any Skype or bit torrent clients running?


Nope. By "slow" I mean mainly the part before the actual page content is 
loading. So it could be a DNS problem...


But what is causing this sudden problem? I didn't touch the router.


Also I have found that NOT using the DNS server in the routers
that have them often is faster.  Some routers just pass that through
anyway, but others try to run a slim version of bind or some such.


I will try that, too! I'm currently using the DNS server build into the 
hardware router.

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

On 2006-11-13 04:29, John Andersen wrote:
> On Monday 13 November 2006 00:50, Sven Jacobs wrote:
>   
>> In contrary to my first statement I noticed yesterday that browsing on
>> my other computer (also OpenSuSE 10.1) is slow, too.
>> 
>
> Any Skype or bit torrent clients running?
>   
I've nothing running that could possibly account for depletion of
available bandwidth.. and with a CPU pegged at 100% (95+ of which is
Mozilla/Seamonkey) I doubt it is anything other than the result of code
bloat.
> I've also seen page requests just sit there and grind, but upon clicking
> Stop and Re-Request (clicking the link again) it goes instantly.
>   
Substitute "after a few minutes" for "instantly", and you've described
my situation too :-)
> However, my experiences have been equally bad with windows and
> linux. Firefox or Mozilla on both platforms.
>
>   
IMEHO, Java and any mozilla.org product are perfect examples of why OOP
should be declared a Cardinal Sin Against God. Remove the C++ compilers
from their systems, and send them all back to assembler -- then we'll
see just how tight they can code :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Unable to install openSUSE

2006-11-13 Thread Adrian Schröter

Am Friday 10 November 2006 19:31 schrieb Tom Berben:
> Hello,
>
> When I tried to install openSUSE 10.1
>  ten minutes ago, I got the error "Couldn't find installation CD,
> starting manual installation". I didn't know what to do so I aborted
> the installation, booted back into Windows, downloaded openSUSE
> 10.2 beta 2 and burnt it to the cd's.Then
>  I rebooted the computer again and started the installation. A minute
> or two later: "Could not find installation CD, starting manual
> installation".
> Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong (I burnt the cd's correctly, they
> work on my sister's computer)?

The kernel does not support your CD drive or it's storage controller where it 
is connected to. I would try to watch for some error message on the kernel 
console.

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

On Monday 13 November 2006 01:48, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> > Any Skype or bit torrent clients running?
> >  
>
> I've nothing running that could possibly account for depletion of
> available bandwidth..

I didn't mean to imply bandwidth saturation, simply socket saturation.
Those itty bitty processors in routers really don't have that big of a 
router table, and tons of sockets will max them out even if virtually
nothing is going across the wire.

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The Sunday 2006-11-12 at 18:32 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone want to guess why this next stuff got tossed into the reply
> > > message? Curious that it didn't show up as a quote, though.
> >
> > You mean the unsubscribe intructions at the bottom? They are added by the
> > list server at opensuse.
> Yes, those. I know where they are added, but in your messages, the
> signature separator occurs first, then the "end signed part" message
> from enigmail. After all that, of course, is where the instructions are
> added. Seamonkey is barfing on that: It seems to think the extra
> instructions are part of the original message. I don't recall the
> Mozilla suite ever behaving this way.

There is a problem with my email. I tried replying to myself, and my 
signature and what is below is added to the quotes. My signature, when I'm 
writing, is correct, two dashes and an space, so I don't understand. But 
the quoted signature doesn't have the space.

Then I tried with a message from Kai, and the signature is stripped.

It is very strange: it seems as if something at my end is stripping the 
space from the dashes.

This one will go with two spaces:

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   Carlos E. R.
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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

On Monday 13 November 2006 01:46, Sven Jacobs wrote:
> Nope. By "slow" I mean mainly the part before the actual page content is
> loading. So it could be a DNS problem...

Yeah, I see that same thing.  It seems to be somewhat site specific, and the
stop/restart trick usually clears it and causes virtually instant page load.

The pages load quick, but its like the first request to do so takes forever
to start.

I'm not totally convinced its DNS, because this happens a lot when I spend
a good deal of time on the same site, so the local machine should have
some DNS cache to work from.  Example might be working at my brokerage
firm's site.  I'm in there on a secure connection for hours, and for some
obscure reason every so often it can't get the next page without 
the stop/restart trick.

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 >>> Reply on 13-11-2006 13:28:54 <<<> On Monday 13 November 2006 01:46, Sven Jacobs wrote:> > Nope. By "slow" I mean mainly the part before the actual page content> is> > loading. So it could be a DNS problem...> > Yeah, I see that same thing.  It seems to be somewhat site specific, and> the> stop/restart trick usually clears it and causes virtually instant page> load.> > The pages load quick, but its like the first request to do so takes> forever> to start.> > I'm not totally convinced its DNS, because this happens a lot when I> spend> a good deal of time on the same site, so the local machine should have> some DNS cache to work from.  Example might be working at my brokerage> firm's site.  I'm in there on a secure connection for hours, and for> some> obscure reason every so often it can't get the next page without > the stop/restart trick.> 
If you expect it to be some DNS Issue, it might help to start a fireshark and get some packages sniffed, while the problem occurs.
If you want, I could also help you in analysing the PCAP Data (get first in touch with me directly per mail for this)
 
Dominique

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The Monday 2006-11-13 at 12:23 +0100, I wrote:

...
> It is very strange: it seems as if something at my end is stripping the
> space from the dashes.
> 
> This one will go with two spaces:
> 
> --

No spaces, lost.

I'll try this one without pgp signing.

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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests


Nope. By "slow" I mean mainly the part before the actual page content is
loading. So it could be a DNS problem...


Yeah, I see that same thing.  It seems to be somewhat site specific, and the
stop/restart trick usually clears it and causes virtually instant page load.


Must try the stop/restart trick.


The pages load quick, but its like the first request to do so takes forever
to start.


Same thing here!


I'm not totally convinced its DNS,


Me neither.
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[opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Hi all,

I'm getting that ugly error message:

# chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

then I tried:

# chroot /disk2/mnt/sources /bin/bash
chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

on some Ubuntu-related archives someone found the solution reinstaling the 
coreutils ... I did but it seems not to be the solution for SuSE...

Any ideas on how to get rid of that error and make chroot work properly?

TIA,
Martin





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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

2006-11-13 Thread Marcus Rueckert

On 2006-11-13 03:51:54 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:
> I'm getting that ugly error message:
> 
> # chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
> 
> then I tried:
> 
> # chroot /disk2/mnt/sources /bin/bash
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
> 
> on some Ubuntu-related archives someone found the solution reinstaling the 
> coreutils ... I did but it seems not to be the solution for SuSE...
> 
> Any ideas on how to get rid of that error and make chroot work properly?

it would be ubercool if you could tell us:
1. what do you try to achieve?
2. what did you do so far to achieve that goal?

that would be very nice.

darix

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[opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread SheridanJ West


I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borg
persons.

Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'

So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a hobby
user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.

While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
better  and mod perl 2 excites me.

So thank you once again and goodbye.
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The Monday 2006-11-13 at 12:31 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> No spaces, lost.
> 
> I'll try this one without pgp signing.

That's it! Pine barfs on the pgp signature. When using pgp signing, the 
dashes are replaced with "- --", and Pine, which is not really pgp-aware, 
doesn't see it at the signature mark. This is a bug or a missing feature.

Balsa also has this problem. Thunderbird and Kmail both work fine in that 
respect, at least here.

Therefore, if you have a problem as well, it is your mail client that is 
broken or misconfigured somehow.

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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread Hugo Costelha

On Monday 13 November 2006 12:00, SheridanJ West wrote:
> I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
> mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
> and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borg
> persons.
>
> Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'
>
> So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a hobby
> user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
> signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.
>
> While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
> 10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
> better  and mod perl 2 excites me.
>
> So thank you once again and goodbye.

Thanks for using SUSE and see you soon ;)

Hugo Costelha
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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Hi there,

as for your questions:

1. want to work on a mounted ISO to create a customized live-cd/live-usb
I *know* there are tons of ready-to-go live-distros but at my work we need to 
include some home-brew utils...

2. nothing special... just mounted the ISO image and wanted to chroot to where 
it is mounted...


MfG,
Martin

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Subject: Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or 
directory

On 2006-11-13 03:51:54 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:
> I'm getting that ugly error message:
> 
> # chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
> 
> then I tried:
> 
> # chroot /disk2/mnt/sources /bin/bash
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
> 
> on some Ubuntu-related archives someone found the solution reinstaling the 
> coreutils ... I did but it seems not to be the solution for SuSE...
> 
> Any ideas on how to get rid of that error and make chroot work properly?

it would be ubercool if you could tell us:
1. what do you try to achieve?
2. what did you do so far to achieve that goal?

that would be very nice.

darix

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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread TheOldWiseKing

I have an opinion considering the deal between Microsoft and Novell. The 
deal doesn't mean that Novell made a deal with evil, because this deal 
has not been made long time ago, I think Microsoft did this step when 
she realized that Novel SUSE has became a strong competitor to her OS. 
This of course means that SUSE because really strong, and will be more 
strong in the future.


Regards,...

TheOldWiseKing

SheridanJ West wrote:

I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borg
persons.

Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'

So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a hobby
user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.

While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
better  and mod perl 2 excites me.

So thank you once again and goodbye.
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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

2006-11-13 Thread Kenneth Schneider

On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 09:10 +, Pete Connolly wrote:
> On Monday 13 November 2006 08:26, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> > On 2006-11-13 02:18, Sven Jacobs wrote:
> > > 
> > > Can you still use Firefox during the freeze or is it totally frozen?
> > > Well I can still use it.
> >
> > Seamonkey, actually, and before that the Mozilla suite. Until I
> > installed mozilla-nss and mozilla-nspr, it was so slow as to be useless.
> > Now I can use it, but everything takes a lot longer to happen.
> >
> > > I hope somebody has an idea because these freezes are really annoying!
> >
> > So do I.
> 
> Just as an aside, do you think it might be something to do with IPV6?  Ive 
> not 
> updated the kernel to the same version as Sven's, but after tweaking both the 
> sysconfig settings and Firefox's about:config page to ignore IPV6, my browser 
> hasn't had a freeze or pause on a site for a long time.
> 

Taken from another post on the factory list:

"In about:config (network.proxy.type = 0. There must also be the
problem: It was set to 5 (accepted as default), which does not even
represent a valid value. proxy.type should take a value from 0 to 4 (the
error in GUI also shows something about a value of 5)."

YMMV
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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

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The Monday 2006-11-13 at 04:11 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:

> as for your questions:
> 
> 1. want to work on a mounted ISO to create a customized live-cd/live-usb
> I *know* there are tons of ready-to-go live-distros but at my work we need to 
> include some home-brew utils...
> 
> 2. nothing special... just mounted the ISO image and wanted to chroot to 
> where it is mounted...

I can reproduce that behaviour (SuSE 10.1):

  nimrodel:~ # ls /mnt/
  dvd  dvd.crypta.x  isocd  isodvd  nfs  nfs_cdrom  nfs_dvd  nfs_su  tmp
  nimrodel:~ # chroot /mnt/
  chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

I don't remember this behaviour on previous versions of SuSE :-?

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Re: [opensuse] To Novell SUSE - Please include Windows Media Codecs after deal with Microsoft

2006-11-13 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett

On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Hi all !
>
> Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
> include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
> 10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code
> exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, which is
> solved now).
>
> After all, we must use that pact to our advantage.
>
> What do you think ?

Novell has no deal with Microsoft about patents. Novell can't ship patented 
stuff.

The only deal that was made is, if ever patented stuff is found, MS will not 
sue customer and viceversa, but the code will be removed anyway.

You know. 1% of the population can undertand what they read, that is why we 
get so much fud in the blogs, and now those fashion "Goodbye SUSE I am 
changing distro announcements".

Duncan
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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

John Andersen wrote:
> On Monday 13 November 2006 01:46, Sven Jacobs wrote:
>   
>> Nope. By "slow" I mean mainly the part before the actual page content is
>> loading. So it could be a DNS problem...
>> 
>
> Yeah, I see that same thing.  It seems to be somewhat site specific, and the
> stop/restart trick usually clears it and causes virtually instant page load.
>
> The pages load quick, but its like the first request to do so takes forever
> to start.
>
> I'm not totally convinced its DNS, because this happens a lot when I spend
> a good deal of time on the same site, so the local machine should have
> some DNS cache to work from.  Example might be working at my brokerage
> firm's site.  I'm in there on a secure connection for hours, and for some
> obscure reason every so often it can't get the next page without 
> the stop/restart trick.
>
>   
Actually, it sounds like a problem I had a while ago.  My ISP changed my
IP address recently.  One of the consequences was that one of the two
DNS servers I had hard coded into my computer was no longer available. 
As a result, the first DNS server would be tried and then after timeout,
the 2nd server would be tried and return the IP address.  Fire up
Ethereal and take a look.

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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread SheridanJ West


On 11/13/06, TheOldWiseKing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have an opinion considering the deal between Microsoft and Novell. The
deal doesn't mean that Novell made a deal with evil,


replace word microsoft with the word sco


because this deal
has not been made long time ago, I think Microsoft did this step when
she realized that Novel SUSE has became a strong competitor to her OS.
This of course means that SUSE because really strong, and will be more
strong in the future.


Maybe/maybe not some us remember the netware days, and the days when
wordperfect was the 'thing'.  I imagine in five years time novell will
be wondering 'wow how did that happen' and Novell will be once again
trying to redefine 'Novell'.

You have your view I have mine.
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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

2006-11-13 Thread Marcus Rueckert

On 2006-11-13 04:11:55 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:
> as for your questions:
> 
> 1. want to work on a mounted ISO to create a customized live-cd/live-usb
> I *know* there are tons of ready-to-go live-distros but at my work we need to 
> include some home-brew utils...

what iso? the live cd from suse? or our installation images? the later
dont have a running system on them.

and for creating a livecd with suse ... did you see that presentation at
the fosdem: http://en.opensuse.org/FOSDEM (at the bottom)

> 2. nothing special... just mounted the ISO image and wanted to chroot to 
> where it is mounted...

your assumption is wrong that our installation medias are a running
system.

darix

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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

SheridanJ West wrote:
> I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
> mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
> and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borg
> persons.
>
> Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'
>
> So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a hobby
> user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
> signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.
>
> While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
> 10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
> better  and mod perl 2 excites me.
>
> So thank you once again and goodbye.

Before being too hasty, please get your facts straight.  It is not a
licensing deal.  Novell ensured the agreement was compliant with GPL. 
It doesn't give them the right to include MS patents in Linux.  It
simply means MS won't sue SUSE users, should a patent violation turn
up.  Also, MS is paying Novell far more than what Novell pays MS, so the
net result is more money for Novell.  Someone else had posted a link to
a Novell Q&A page.  Perhaps you might want to read it.

That said, I am opposed to any such deal with MS, as I'll always be
suspicious of them.

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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory




Martin,>>> Reply on 13-11-2006 14:28:37 <<<> Hi there,> > as for your questions:> > 1. want to work on a mounted ISO to create a customized> live-cd/live-usb> I *know* there are tons of ready-to-go live-distros but at my work we> need to include some home-brew utils...> > 2. nothing special... just mounted the ISO image and wanted to chroot to> where it is mounted...> 
If you want to CHROOT to a directory, you have to be sure the programs you start there inside (in case no program is specified to chroot, $SHELL is user) is working and all the nescessary libs are in place (inside the chroot)
 
so for you: inside the ISO Image, there is probably no {chrooted}/bin/bash and/or some libraries are missing.
 
Put them in place and you're set.
 
Dominique

Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse


SheridanJ West wrote:

I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borg
persons.

Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'

So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a hobby
user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.

While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
better  and mod perl 2 excites me.

So thank you once again and goodbye.


I accept your sentiments, and wish you all the very best.

I suspect that you have expressed publicly the feelings quite a few 
people here have also possibly acquired over the past several days.


Cheers.


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regime change to the U.S."



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Re: [opensuse] Slow/paused HTTP requests

2006-11-13 Thread Pete Connolly

On Monday 13 November 2006 10:46, Sven Jacobs wrote:
> > Any Skype or bit torrent clients running?
>
> Nope. By "slow" I mean mainly the part before the actual page content is
> loading. So it could be a DNS problem...
>
> But what is causing this sudden problem? I didn't touch the router.
>
> > Also I have found that NOT using the DNS server in the routers
> > that have them often is faster.  Some routers just pass that through
> > anyway, but others try to run a slim version of bind or some such.
>
> I will try that, too! I'm currently using the DNS server build into the
> hardware router.

Try setting network.dns.disableIPv6 in firefox's config to 'true'.  I don't 
think it would cause any harm on 90% of networks.

Cheers

Pete
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Re: [opensuse] To Novell SUSE - Please include Windows Media Codecs after deal with Microsoft


Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:

On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:

Hi all !

Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code
exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, which is
solved now).

After all, we must use that pact to our advantage.

What do you think ?


Novell has no deal with Microsoft about patents. Novell can't ship patented 
stuff.


The only deal that was made is, if ever patented stuff is found, MS will not 
sue customer and viceversa, but the code will be removed anyway.


You know. 1% of the population can undertand what they read, that is why we 
get so much fud in the blogs, and now those fashion "Goodbye SUSE I am 
changing distro announcements".


This link was posted in another forum:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061107194320461


Read the article.

Cheers.

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Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails

2006-11-13 Thread Ryan McCain

who didn't feed the hampster? 

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Registered Linux User #364609
>>> Peter Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/12/06 7:00 AM >>>
On Sunday 12 November 2006 12:33, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> There is also a good reason not to. Let's take the promiment example of
> LKML, where you do not have to be subscribed. So you have to be Cc'ed or
> To'ed somehow. Second case LKML: People throw all their list mails into
> one folder (the unimportant stuff) and get a direct reply for threads
> they have taken part in. That's why your patch is often ignored when
> just submitted to lkml without any persons directly cc'ed.

Aaah!! this is starting to 'P&*$' me off its got to be the list sending me two 
of everything, I've heard of two for the price of one but its getting 
annoying

I'm already on a number of differant mailing lists and the extra load is 
distracting, if while reading one list suddenley theres 37 new posts you 
brain thinks "Heads up whats going on over there" only to find that its 
double bluff.

Has 10.1 flakyness crept into the list server?

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[opensuse] Sun to Release Java under GPL

2006-11-13 Thread Kai Ponte

Well, isn't this interesting news... just days after the Novell/Microshaft 
thing...

http://news.lycos.com/dynamic/stories/S/SUN_JAVA_OPEN_SOURCE?SITE=LYCOS&SECTION=TECHNOLOGY&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-11-13-00-26-47

http://tinyurl.com/y2fobr

I wonder if - since it will be released in March - it will make it into the 
next SUSE release - 10.3?

In any case, I now have no need to even think about learning Mono .NET. That 
was weighing on me and is not any longer an issue.   :)
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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

Basil Chupin wrote:
> SheridanJ West wrote:
>> I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
>> mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
>> and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borg
>> persons.
>>
>> Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'
>>
>> So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a hobby
>> user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
>> signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.
>>
>> While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
>> 10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
>> better  and mod perl 2 excites me.
>>
>> So thank you once again and goodbye.
>
> I accept your sentiments, and wish you all the very best.
>
> I suspect that you have expressed publicly the feelings quite a few
> people here have also possibly acquired over the past several days.
>
>

One thing a lot of people are forgetting, is there's still OpenSUSE,
which contributes no money whatsoever to MS and isn't likely to receive
any MS patents.


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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread TheOldWiseKing

It's not easy to say that Novell will try to re-define 'Novell'. 
Business doesn't go such a way. But I think that by leaving SUSE, u r 
allowing Microsoft to become stronger, because u r leaving the OS that 
made Microsoft becomes afraid. After years of Work in SUSE to become a 
'thing', now u r leaving it to another 'nothing'. How about if u join 
Mandriva community, and the community evolved until Mandriva Linux 
become a 'thing', then Microsoft did the same with Mandriva, will u 
leave it again??, if we do so, we will leave all great things and make 
them weak.


SUSE is not great with the its code or architecutre, SUSE is great with 
the community that created the great thing called SUSE.


I advice u not to leave it, and we shall wait until this storm goes 
away. and we will see what will happen between them.


and As james knott said, the deal shall force Microsoft to work under 
GPL, and this will not happen. Simply, Microsoft will not allow MS Word 
to be open source.


Regards,...

TheOldWiseKing

SheridanJ West wrote:

On 11/13/06, TheOldWiseKing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have an opinion considering the deal between Microsoft and Novell. The
deal doesn't mean that Novell made a deal with evil,


replace word microsoft with the word sco


because this deal
has not been made long time ago, I think Microsoft did this step when
she realized that Novel SUSE has became a strong competitor to her OS.
This of course means that SUSE because really strong, and will be more
strong in the future.


Maybe/maybe not some us remember the netware days, and the days when
wordperfect was the 'thing'.  I imagine in five years time novell will
be wondering 'wow how did that happen' and Novell will be once again
trying to redefine 'Novell'.

You have your view I have mine.
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Re: [opensuse] To Novell SUSE - Please include Windows Media Codecs after deal with Microsoft

2006-11-13 Thread Marcel Mourguiart

2006/11/13, Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:> Hi all !>> Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask> include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
> 10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code> exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, which is> solved now).>> After all, we must use that pact to our advantage.
>> What do you think ?Novell has no deal with Microsoft about patents. Novell can't ship patentedstuff.The only deal that was made is, if ever patented stuff is found, MS will notsue customer and viceversa, but the code will be removed anyway.
Microsoft Office 2007 XML documents aren´t patented ??How are you going to include that on OpenOffice ?-- Marcel Mourguiart

Re: [opensuse] To Novell SUSE - Please include Windows Media Codecs after deal with Microsoft

Basil Chupin wrote:
> Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett wrote:
>> On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
>>> Hi all !
>>>
>>> Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to ask
>>> include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both openSUSE
>>> 10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The code
>>> exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, which is
>>> solved now).
>>>
>>> After all, we must use that pact to our advantage.
>>>
>>> What do you think ?
>>
>> Novell has no deal with Microsoft about patents. Novell can't ship
>> patented stuff.
>>
>> The only deal that was made is, if ever patented stuff is found, MS
>> will not sue customer and viceversa, but the code will be removed
>> anyway.
>>
>> You know. 1% of the population can undertand what they read, that is
>> why we get so much fud in the blogs, and now those fashion "Goodbye
>> SUSE I am changing distro announcements".
>
> This link was posted in another forum:
>
> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061107194320461
>
>
> Read the article.
>
> Cheers.
>
That article is PJ's interpretation of the SEC filing.

You might want to read Novell's Q&A at



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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Hi again,

No SuSE images are used...
I want to modify a Knoppix ISO mounting it on a SuSE system. I don't see why it 
can't be done...

The Knoppix image already has in place all the needed bootable parts (just 
burned a CDROM and booted my system with it to be on the sure side).

Anyway, I'll take a look at the SUSE Linux LiveCD Tutorial from the FOSDEM site 
you mention.

The main reason for me to go for Knoppix (or any Debian-based) is that I don't 
want a live-cd, but a live-usb...
I'm pretty sure that adapting the procedure to make SuSE fit into a 
USB-pendrive wouldn't be that difficult but, believe me, I don't have time now 
and this live-usb must be done ASAP... at least a rough approach...

Finally, please don't reply to me *and* the list... I already read the replies 
when posted. Thanks!

MfG,
Martin

- Original Message 
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To: Martin Mielke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: suse-linux-e@suse.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:40:25 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or 
directory

On 2006-11-13 04:11:55 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:
> as for your questions:
> 
> 1. want to work on a mounted ISO to create a customized live-cd/live-usb
> I *know* there are tons of ready-to-go live-distros but at my work we need to 
> include some home-brew utils...

what iso? the live cd from suse? or our installation images? the later
dont have a running system on them.

and for creating a livecd with suse ... did you see that presentation at
the fosdem: http://en.opensuse.org/FOSDEM (at the bottom)

> 2. nothing special... just mounted the ISO image and wanted to chroot to 
> where it is mounted...

your assumption is wrong that our installation medias are a running
system.

darix

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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Hi,

yep, that's why I'm so curious about this new "undocumented feature"... :-)


salu2,
Martin


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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:31:35 PM
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The Monday 2006-11-13 at 04:11 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:

> as for your questions:
> 
> 1. want to work on a mounted ISO to create a customized live-cd/live-usb
> I *know* there are tons of ready-to-go live-distros but at my work we need to 
> include some home-brew utils...
> 
> 2. nothing special... just mounted the ISO image and wanted to chroot to 
> where it is mounted...

I can reproduce that behaviour (SuSE 10.1):

  nimrodel:~ # ls /mnt/
  dvd  dvd.crypta.x  isocd  isodvd  nfs  nfs_cdrom  nfs_dvd  nfs_su  tmp
  nimrodel:~ # chroot /mnt/
  chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

I don't remember this behaviour on previous versions of SuSE :-?

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Re: [opensuse] Sun to Release Java under GPL

2006-11-13 Thread Andreas Jaeger

Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, isn't this interesting news... just days after the Novell/Microshaft 
> thing...
>
> http://news.lycos.com/dynamic/stories/S/SUN_JAVA_OPEN_SOURCE?SITE=LYCOS&SECTION=TECHNOLOGY&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-11-13-00-26-47
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y2fobr
>
> I wonder if - since it will be released in March - it will make it into the 
> next SUSE release - 10.3?

This will be a technical discussion.  If the package is working better
than the binary ones, then we'll add it for sure...

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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse



 >>> Reply on 13-11-2006 15:43:42 <<<> Basil Chupin wrote:> >> > One thing a lot of people are forgetting, is there's still OpenSUSE,> which contributes no money whatsoever to MS and isn't likely to receive> any MS patents.> 
c'mon.. in all reports is written that the agreement assures that no USER will get sued my Microsoft. But I've never, really NEVER and NOWHERE read that MS would not sue Novell if they were infringing their patents. Why was this not put in the contract? Microsoft does not grant the usage of their patented work by Novell (there is NO Patent license fee) nor does Novell believe that they infringe any of the MS Patents. So there was basically no need/wish for such a clause
 
Dominique

[opensuse] Re: To Novell SUSE - Please include Windows Media Codecs after deal with Microsoft

>>> Reply on 13-11-2006 15:52:23 <<<> 2006/11/13, Duncan Mac-Vicar
Prett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> > > Hi all !
> > >
> > > Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to
> ask
> > > include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both
> openSUSE
> > > 10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). The
code
> > > exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, which
is
> > > solved now).
> > >
> > > After all, we must use that pact to our advantage.
> > >
> > > What do you think ?
> >
> > Novell has no deal with Microsoft about patents. Novell can't ship
> > patented
> > stuff.
> >
> > The only deal that was made is, if ever patented stuff is found,
MS
> will
> > not
> > sue customer and viceversa, but the code will be removed anyway.
> 
> 
> Microsoft Office 2007 XML documents arent patented ??
> 
> How are you going to include that on OpenOffice ?
> 

Did you get the idea from Microsoft to OPEN the SPEC for Office
Document Format? Did you? BTW: It's an ECMA Standard already, and thus
can be freely implemented whenever you want!

>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_Open_XML
(Licensing)
[QUOTE]
The Microsoft Office Open XML format will be available under a free and
perpetual license from Microsoft.

There has been a lot of argument about the ability for OSS software to
use the format even under this fairly open license. Microsoft has tried
to diminish these concerns by officially stating in a covenant not to
sue that it will not sue any organisation for using the format if the
implementation complies to the official OOXML Ecma standard file
formats. This has led to a greater reassurance that the OOXML formats
will also be available for use in OSS software as even expressed by OSS
licensing expert Larry Rosen.

A further indication of the free and open use of the format was given
by Microsoft XML program manager Brian Jones as he presents a legal
analysis on the convenant not to sue and also states that there is "no
license needed to use the Office Open XML formats."
[/QUOTE]

so there Novell just give's the hand to implement that open standard in
OpenOffice. Something, MS for SURE would never do by themself, but it
gives an advantage to OpenOffice as Document Exchange with Office 2007
Users. and THAT's what should be honored!

Dominique
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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

2006-11-13 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)

Martin Mielke wrote:
> 2. nothing special... just mounted the ISO image and wanted to chroot to 
> where it is mounted...
>   
Did you cd first to the directory you are chrooting to?  IIANM, you should
cd /disk2/mnt/sources
chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
exit to leave the chroot.  HTH.

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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread Hans van der Merwe


On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 12:00 +, SheridanJ West wrote:
> I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
> mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
> and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borg
> persons.
> 
> Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'
> 
> So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a hobby
> user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
> signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.
> 
> While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
> 10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
> better  and mod perl 2 excites me.
> 
> So thank you once again and goodbye.
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Your choice, good luck.

But without starting one of those boring anti MS threads:  What does
this really mean for OpenSUSE users? Aren't this just the thing to prove
that big corps cant kill Distros (as long as they are fully OSS)? 



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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread Janne Karhunen

On Monday 13 November 2006 14:00, SheridanJ West wrote:

> Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'

That's perfectly valid point of view. Some comments from Bruce:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=206202&cid=16815242

But, in the end, that's the way even OSS business is done these
days. RH is hardly any better. Choose your poison.


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[opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries

Hi All,

I was distracted this a.m. while reconfiguring some mount points and mixed up 
my filenames, inadvertently overwriting my backup copy in the process :-/

Can someone please help me identify which of the following (intentionally 
split for posting) lines are correct for 10.1?:

/dev/fd0/media/floppysubfs
   noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync0 0

 *or*

/dev/fd0/media/floppyauto
noauto,user,sync0 0

none/subdomainsubdomainfs
noauto0 0

debugfs/sys/kernel/debugdebugfs
noauto0 0

TIA & regards,

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

SheridanJ West wrote:
> On 11/13/06, James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Before being too hasty, please get your facts straight.  It is not a
>> licensing deal.  Novell ensured the agreement was compliant with GPL.
>> It doesn't give them the right to include MS patents in Linux.  It
>> simply means MS won't sue SUSE users,
>
> OK but it does sound like sco's offer.

It's not quite the same.  SCO had to know it was a fraudulent claim.  MS
may or may not have patents that are infringed.

>
>> should a patent violation turn
>> up.  Also, MS is paying Novell far more than what Novell pays MS, so the
>> net result is more money for Novell.  Someone else had posted a link to
>> a Novell Q&A page.  Perhaps you might want to read it.
>>
>> That said, I am opposed to any such deal with MS, as I'll always be
>> suspicious of them.
>
> Novell can still do without my 'hobby' disk order

There's always OpenSUSE.


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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread TheOldWiseKing





It's not
easy to say that Novell will try to re-define 'Novell'. Business
doesn't go such a way. But I think that by leaving SUSE, u r allowing
Microsoft to become stronger, because u r leaving the OS that made
Microsoft becomes afraid. After years of Work in SUSE to become a
'thing', now u r leaving it to another 'nothing'. How about if u join
Mandriva community, and the community evolved until Mandriva Linux
become a 'thing', then Microsoft did the same with Mandriva, will u
leave it again??, if we do so, we will leave all great things and make
them weak.


SUSE is not great with the its code or architecutre, SUSE is great with
the community that created the great thing called SUSE.


I advice u not to leave it, and we shall wait until this storm goes
away. and we will see what will happen between them.


and As james knott said, the deal shall force Microsoft to work under
GPL, and this will not happen. Simply, Microsoft will not allow MS Word
to be open source.


Regards,...


TheOldWiseKing


SheridanJ West wrote:

On 11/13/06, TheOldWiseKing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
  
  I have an opinion considering the deal
between Microsoft and Novell. The

deal doesn't mean that Novell made a deal with evil,

  
  
replace word microsoft with the word sco
  
  
  because this deal

has not been made long time ago, I think Microsoft did this step when

she realized that Novel SUSE has became a strong competitor to her OS.

This of course means that SUSE because really strong, and will be more

strong in the future.

  
  
Maybe/maybe not some us remember the netware days, and the days when
  
wordperfect was the 'thing'.  I imagine in five years time novell will
  
be wondering 'wow how did that happen' and Novell will be once again
  
trying to redefine 'Novell'.
  
  
You have your view I have mine.
  
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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Hi Joe, hi all,

yes, I'm running chroot from the directory I want to chroot...

 # pwd
/disk2/mnt/sources

# chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory


Martin

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To: suse-linux-e@suse.com
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 2:47:48 PM
Subject: Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or 
directory

Martin Mielke wrote:
> 2. nothing special... just mounted the ISO image and wanted to chroot to 
> where it is mounted...
>   
Did you cd first to the directory you are chrooting to?  IIANM, you should
cd /disk2/mnt/sources
chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
exit to leave the chroot.  HTH.

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Re: [opensuse] USB 2.0 external

2006-11-13 Thread Tilman Vogel

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Usually, it should load automatically, but make sure that the USB 2.0
kernel module is loaded:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> lsmod | grep ehci
> ehci_hcd   32136  0
> usbcore   112512  4 usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>

Apart from that, you could take a look at the information given by the
"usbview" applet. And you could maybe post the output of "cat
/proc/bus/usb/devices". Both while the disk is plugged in, of course.

Cheers,

Tilman


PS. "USB 2.0" per se doesn't say anything about bandwidth, rather "USB
2.0 High speed" means theoretical 480 MBit/s while "Full speed" means 12
MBit/s and "Low speed" is 1.5 MBit/s. "Full" and "low" are already part
of USB 1.1. I have come across USB pen drives which claimed to be USB
2.0, but only supported "full speed"...




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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread Joe Zitnik

I hate to break this to everybody, but this isn't about you and what you
run at home.  This is about the future of linux in the enterprise. 
Novell has attorneys just like MS, and believe me, this wasn't entered
in to blindly by either side.  Just to accommodate all the conspiracy
theorists out there:  Say Microsoft decides to sue.  Maybe they have
just enough patent infringement evidence to bring a lawsuit, maybe they
don't.  Maybe they don't care.  What they do have is deep enough pockets
to bring long extended lawsuits that drain huge amounts of money from
linux distros, something Novell is now immune to for five years. 
Remember, IBM doesn't own a linux distro (although they too have thrown
money behind Novell) and neither does Oracle, so it's not like there are
really deep pockets out there to support Linux.  During that time, if a
company wants to use linux, MS has said it is going to play nice with
SuSE, and right now, only SuSE.  How can that be bad for Novell?  I keep
reading about SCO, well SCO is about to go broke because they aren't
making a whole lot of money, and the lawsuits they brought are draining
what little financial resources they do have.
As for the beginning of my statement, can you imagine a major company
saying "We are going to standardize on Ubuntu in our enterprise."  If
you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.  There are two major
players in enterprise Linux, SuSE and RedHat, and RedHat has already
said their interest lies in the server-side of things, not the desktop,
so that leaves Novell.  Instead of being so pissed off, be happy that a
company might get it's Linux foot in the door.  It's the beginning of
what Linux people have been hoping for.

>>> On 11/13/2006 at 7:00 AM, "SheridanJ West"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
> mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
> and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil
borg
> persons.
> 
> Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'
> 
> So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a
hobby
> user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
> signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.
> 
> While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
> 10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
> better  and mod perl 2 excites me.
> 
> So thank you once again and goodbye.
>
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Re: [opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries

2006-11-13 Thread Hans Krueger


Carl Hartung wrote:

Hi All,

I was distracted this a.m. while reconfiguring some mount points and mixed up 
my filenames, inadvertently overwriting my backup copy in the process :-/


Can someone please help me identify which of the following (intentionally 
split for posting) lines are correct for 10.1?:


/dev/fd0/media/floppysubfs
   noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync0 0

 *or*

/dev/fd0/media/floppyauto
noauto,user,sync0 0

none/subdomainsubdomainfs
noauto0 0

debugfs/sys/kernel/debugdebugfs
noauto0 0

TIA & regards,

Carl
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Hey Carl  I  can send you my fstab from 10 & 10.1 box if you like

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[opensuse] Re: To Novell SUSE - Please include Windows Media Codecs after deal with Microsoft

2006-11-13 Thread Marcel Mourguiart

2006/11/13, Dominique Leuenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Reply on 13-11-2006 15:52:23 <<<> 2006/11/13, Duncan Mac-VicarPrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:> >> > On Sunday 12 November 2006 19:47, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> > > Hi all !> > >> > > Since we have made a deal with MS about patents, I would like to> ask> > > include MS-patented Windows Media Codecs (WMA/WMV) with both
> openSUSE> > > 10.2 and future SUSE versions... (including Enterprise). Thecode> > > exists (on packman sites - the only problem was patents, whichis> > > solved now).
> > >> > > After all, we must use that pact to our advantage.> > >> > > What do you think ?> >> > Novell has no deal with Microsoft about patents. Novell can't ship
> > patented> > stuff.> >> > The only deal that was made is, if ever patented stuff is found,MS> will> > not> > sue customer and viceversa, but the code will be removed anyway.
>>> Microsoft Office 2007 XML documents arent patented ??>> How are you going to include that on OpenOffice ?>Did you get the idea from Microsoft to OPEN the SPEC for Office
Document Format? Did you? BTW: It's an ECMA Standard already, and thuscan be freely implemented whenever you want!No i don't, that's why i'm asking, please don't confuse my question with all that's fud's  post.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_Open_XML
(Licensing)so there Novell just give's the hand to implement that open standard in
OpenOffice. Something, MS for SURE would never do by themself, but itgives an advantage to OpenOffice as Document Exchange with Office 2007Users. and THAT's what should be honored!Dominique
Thanks for the info-- Marcel Mourguiart

Re: [opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries


Carl Hartung wrote:

Hi All,

I was distracted this a.m. while reconfiguring some mount points and mixed up 
my filenames, inadvertently overwriting my backup copy in the process :-/


Can someone please help me identify which of the following (intentionally 
split for posting) lines are correct for 10.1?:


/dev/fd0/media/floppysubfs
   noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync0 0

 *or*

/dev/fd0/media/floppyauto
noauto,user,sync0 0

none/subdomainsubdomainfs
noauto0 0

debugfs/sys/kernel/debugdebugfs
noauto0 0

TIA & regards,

Carl



Here is a copy of my fstab if this will help:

/dev/hda9/reiserfs   acl,user_xattr 
   1 1
/dev/hdc11   /datareiserfs   defaults 
   1 2
/dev/hda1/windows/C   ntfs 
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hda5/windows/D   ntfs 
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hda6/windows/E   ntfs 
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hda7/windows/F   ntfs 
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hda8/windows/G   ntfs 
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdc5/windows/I   ntfs 
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdc6/windows/J   ntfs 
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdc7/windows/K   ntfs 
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdc8/windows/L   vfat 
users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/hdc9/windows/M   vfat 
users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/hdc10   /windows/N   vfat 
users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/hda10   swap swap   defaults 
   0 0
proc /procproc   defaults 
   0 0
sysfs/sys sysfs  noauto 
   0 0
debugfs  /sys/kernel/debugdebugfsnoauto 
   0 0
usbfs/proc/bus/usbusbfs  auto 
   0 0
devpts   /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 
   0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppyauto   noauto,user,sync 
   0 0


Cheers.



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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread JJ Gitties

On 11/13/06, SheridanJ West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to thismailing list (before it renamed). For the record i was waiting 10.2and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borgpersons.
Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'So I'm moving to new distro. Whether suse/novell consider us a hobbyuser is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal isigned on with Suse before Novell bought it.
While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now. I can dobetter and mod perl 2 excites me.So thank you once again and goodbye.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]I have similar inclinations as you. However, you do need to be practical. Meaning if there are certain apps that require SUSE or you are used to using SUSE, then just use the OpenSUSE. But whatever you do, do not buy boxed versions. Do not suggest to anyone to buy boxed. Do not suggest or recommend the enterprise versions at all. What I have started to do is, if someone asks me for my thoughts on SUSE, I just lie and say "I have personally found that it doesn't work as well as . But your mileage may vary." You can get away with stuff like that. All network environments are different and they all have their peciuliarities.
If there is something that is making you stick with SUSE, then just keep using but don't send any money or help in any way. Waint until you actiually see concrete detrimental effects on open source that MS may instigate. Trust me, you will find out about it if it does happen.
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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse


I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine to this
mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was waiting 10.2
and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the evil borg
persons.

Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'

So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us a hobby
user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal i
signed on with Suse before Novell bought it.

While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought disks for
10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can do
better  and mod perl 2 excites me.

So thank you once again and goodbye.


I'm still torn whether Novells decision was a good or bad choice.

On the one hand Novell will receive lots of money from Microsoft which 
they can and hopefully will invest in good developers to increase the 
quality of SuSE and open source projects.


On the other hand there's this awkward aftertaste that Novell has a deal 
with the "devil". I wouldn't be surprised if Novell more and more will 
use Mono for their tools, as a reward to the deal. I don't think this 
would be a good idea because .NET is a product by Microsoft for which 
they own all patents and copyrights. They could easily shut down 
projects like Mono all of a sudden if they wanted to!


I know these are (wild) speculations but if I have the feeling that 
Microsoft is somehow influencing the roadmap of (Open)SuSE in future I 
probably will think about switching the distribution!

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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse


Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
 


 >>> Reply on 13-11-2006 15:43:42 <<<> Basil Chupin wrote:
 > >
 >
 > One thing a lot of people are forgetting, is there's still OpenSUSE,
 > which contributes no money whatsoever to MS and isn't likely to receive
 > any MS patents.
 >
c'mon.. in all reports is written that the agreement assures that no 
USER will get sued my Microsoft. But I've never, really NEVER and 
NOWHERE read that MS would not sue Novell if they were infringing their 
patents. Why was this not put in the contract? Microsoft does not grant 
the usage of their patented work by Novell (there is NO Patent license 
fee) nor does Novell believe that they infringe any of the MS Patents. 
So there was basically no need/wish for such a clause
 
Dominique


Just for the record, if you are going to quote someone when responding 
to a post then quote correctly-- *I* did not write what you attribute to 
me as having "wrote".


Cheers.

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Re: [opensuse] opensuse..opensuse..opensuse..opensuse..opensuse..opensuse..

2006-11-13 Thread C. Brouerius van Nidek

On Monday 13 November 2006 06:30, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> Mon, 13 Nov 2006, by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > On Sunday 12 November 2006 17:18, Theo v. Werkhoven wrote:
> > > There have been examples from people explaining howto let kmail
> > > re-write a(ny) header to whatever you wish.
> It was in a thread about the ***SPAM*** in the Subject a few weeks
> ago (on the suse-e ML).
Missed it because I did not follow the SPAM  subject in detail. Lost interest 
after the first ten email's. Why did you not inform me that Randall Schulz 
gave you a direct information that "KMail filter actions can edit headers 
directly." Would have made it much easier. Found it and use it in the 
meantime.
>
> > > Please repair your signature, and let it start with
> >
> > No idea where you are talking about. Neither about the repair suggestion
> > nor about the stripping of stripping signatures.
Never felt that I missed the stripping thingy. 
>
> Others did, so it's not my English that is b0rked.
 Well, try it Dutch ;). Or let us do it via Skype.
> Maybe some  Googling would help you out?
Stripping on Google did of course turn out a lot of material (19.600.000), 
stripping signature still a lot (1.450.000) and SuSE added gave only a few 
(44.200) but still to much to wade through if I have no idea why I should 
bother anyhow.
> It's not so very difficult to see the difference between the
> signature you gave and e.g. mine.
Nice to see now that your lines are automatically stripped in this response. 
But as I try to snip anyhow superfluous text from responses  it was never a 
problem for me.

The signature lines were taken from one of the former discussions and mine 
looks as follows.
#!/bin/bash echo "Powered by SuSE 10.1 Kernel 2.6.16.21-0.25-default  KDE 
3.5.4  Kmail 1.9.4" uptime
In your case you seem to have used the input file. Would be nice to give me 
the command line for a "correct" signature.  does not seem to work in 
bash :).

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Re: [opensuse] Sun to Release Java under GPL

2006-11-13 Thread Randall R Schulz

Kai,

On Monday 13 November 2006 05:08, Kai Ponte wrote:
> Well, isn't this interesting news... just days after the
> Novell/Microshaft thing...

This has been in the works forever. Sun keeps saying they'll open Java 
and the changing their minds. This time looks more like the real thing 
than the previous go-arounds, but it's not done until it's done.

It is very unlikely it has any relationship to the Novell / Microsoft 
deal.

> ...
>
> In any case, I now have no need to even think about learning Mono
> .NET. That was weighing on me and is not any longer an issue.   :)

I know little about C#, but I understand it has some interesting 
features. But then, I think I know even less about Java 6 (though I 
write Java code pretty much daily).

Randall Schulz
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[Fwd: Re: [opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries]



Carl Hartung wrote:

Hi All,

I was distracted this a.m. while reconfiguring some mount points and mixed up 
my filenames, inadvertently overwriting my backup copy in the process :-/


Can someone please help me identify which of the following (intentionally 
split for posting) lines are correct for 10.1?:


/dev/fd0/media/floppysubfs
   noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync0 0

 *or*

/dev/fd0/media/floppyauto
noauto,user,sync0 0

none/subdomainsubdomainfs
noauto0 0

debugfs/sys/kernel/debugdebugfs
noauto0 0

TIA & regards,

Carl



Here is a copy of my fstab if this will help:

/dev/hda9/reiserfs   acl,user_xattr
   1 1
/dev/hdc11   /datareiserfs   defaults
   1 2
/dev/hda1/windows/C   ntfs
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hda5/windows/D   ntfs
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hda6/windows/E   ntfs
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hda7/windows/F   ntfs
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hda8/windows/G   ntfs
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdc5/windows/I   ntfs
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdc6/windows/J   ntfs
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdc7/windows/K   ntfs
ro,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nls=utf8 0 0
/dev/hdc8/windows/L   vfat
users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/hdc9/windows/M   vfat
users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/hdc10   /windows/N   vfat
users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0
/dev/hda10   swap swap   defaults
   0 0
proc /procproc   defaults
   0 0
sysfs/sys sysfs  noauto
   0 0
debugfs  /sys/kernel/debugdebugfsnoauto
   0 0
usbfs/proc/bus/usbusbfs  auto
   0 0
devpts   /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5
   0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppyauto   noauto,user,sync
   0 0

Cheers.



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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

2006-11-13 Thread Randall R Schulz

Martin,

On Monday 13 November 2006 03:51, Martin Mielke wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm getting that ugly error message:
>
> # chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Once you've chroot'ed, you cannot see anything you could before because 
the "/" directory is the chroot directory. After that, all path name 
interpretation uses that root.

If you want to run programs in chroot jails, then you need to replicate 
everything that will be needed to run the code in the jail. That 
includes binaries and any shared libraries they reference. And you 
cannot use symbolic links to create the files in the chroot jail, but 
you can use hard links providing the jail is on the same file system as 
the original files.

> ...
>
> Any ideas on how to get rid of that error and make chroot work
> properly?
>
> TIA,
> Martin

Randall Schulz
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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread Clint Tinsley

> >>> Reply on 13-11-2006 15:43:42 <<<> Basil Chupin wrote:
> > >
> >
> > One thing a lot of people are forgetting, is there's still OpenSUSE,
> > which contributes no money whatsoever to MS and isn't likely to
> > receiveany MS patents.
> >
> 
> c'mon.. in all reports is written that the agreement assures that no
> USER will get sued my Microsoft. But I've never, really NEVER and
> NOWHERE read that MS would not sue Novell if they were infringing their
> patents. Why was this not put in the contract? Microsoft does not grant
> the usage of their patented work by Novell (there is NO Patent license
> fee) nor does Novell believe that they infringe any of the MS Patents.
> So there was basically no need/wish for such a clause

IMO, OpenSUSE, absent any statement of ownership or independence to the 
contrary, is a wholly owned entity on the books of Novell along with Ximian and 
its other acquisitions.  We can all be sure that Microsoft cannot be trusted 
and will usually do an end run around anything not in its interests and even in 
the agreements with Novell, it retained the right to change its pledges.  As 
far as Microsoft suing single end users, I don't know of them doing that but it 
is known they have no qualms about going after small businesses for violating 
their EULA's and agreements. Novell is not squeaky clean either.  Novell's 
legal department is very focused on protecting their IP and litigating against 
the piracy of any Novell product in any form, specifically software, 
electronic, and printed.  I am also aware of technology that Novell has buried 
that was not in their interest (technically probably infringing before 
acquisition).  One example is a German (I believe) company that had developed a 
very good Novell Client for authenticating to Novell from Linux; Right after it 
was seen in Brainshare session, it was said that Novell bought the company and 
then buried the technology.  It was so well buried as I could not find it 
available anywhere. Only recently has Novell made a Novell client available on 
openSuSE 10.1.  Also, Novell does a very good job of providing a great Linux 
desktop experience at Brainshare on their network including authentication, 
Novell connectivity, iPrint, groupwise, etc.;  I have yet to see how they do 
that or what technology they are using "under the covers" to provide that 
experience, something they seem to be keeping to themselves and their partners 
as protected IP.  I have been a long supporter of SuSE since about 6.0 and had 
bought every version including 10.0 of SuSE Professional (until they dropped 
the Professional).  I am coming to the conclusion that it is no longer in my 
interest to run openSUSE because of this agreement between Microsoft and Novell 
and given that openSUSE is a wholly owned and funded by Novell.  Novell could 
actually shut the doors on openSUSE if it found it in its interest to do so 
since it owns it and in one fell swoop, disenfrancise its users.  It is 
probably time to say goodbye to openSuSE as well.  Maybe if enough people do 
this, Novell will get the message that agreement is not in their interest or in 
the best interest of the Linux community.

Clint
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Re: [opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries

2006-11-13 Thread Mike Coan

Carl

> I was distracted this a.m. while reconfiguring some mount points and mixed
> up my filenames, inadvertently overwriting my backup copy in the process
> :-/
>
> Can someone please help me identify which of the following (intentionally
> split for posting) lines are correct for 10.1?:
>
> /dev/fd0/media/floppysubfs
>noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync0 0
>
>  *or*
>
> /dev/fd0/media/floppyauto
> noauto,user,sync0 0
>
> none/subdomainsubdomainfs
> noauto0 0
>
> debugfs/sys/kernel/debugdebugfs
> noauto0 0

In my fstab, running 64bit 10.1,  I have 

 /dev/fd0/media/floppyauto
noauto,user,sync0 0

all on one line of course, and identical to your second option.

My debugfs line is identical to the one above..  i have no entry equivalent to 
your none

Mike



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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

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The Monday 2006-11-13 at 06:41 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:

>  # pwd
> /disk2/mnt/sources
> 
> # chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Mi understanding is that trying to run a command that is not local to the 
chroot environment would fail. But the chroot command itself should run.

Look, the info page says:

|  Exit status:
|
| 1   if `chroot' itself fails
| 126 if COMMAND is found but cannot be invoked
| 127 if COMMAND cannot be found
| the exit status of COMMAND otherwise

nimrodel:~ # chroot /mnt ; echo $?
chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
127
nimrodel:~ #

So, it is trying to execute a command on entry, although I have specified 
none. It must be bash itself.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries

On Monday 13 November 2006 09:56, Hans Krueger wrote:
> Hey Carl  I  can send you my fstab from 10 & 10.1 box if you like

Hi Hans!

I've done more Google research and other replies have already come in, so I've 
fixed the problem. Thanks a lot, though! Hope all is well over there.

regards,

Carl

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Re: [opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries

On Monday 13 November 2006 09:56, Basil Chupin wrote:
> Here is a copy of my fstab if this will help:


Thanks Basil! Let me guess... the new lists are 'out of sync' and I got your 
direct reply before the list reply showed up?

I do appreciate the help... all is back in order here.

regards,

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries

On Monday 13 November 2006 10:29, A. den Oudsten wrote:

> BTW can you explain why at the lines for cdrecorder and dvd no device is
> mentioned? I can't mount those devices

Hi André,

Thanks a lot for sending me your fstab, but I can't help you with your dvd or 
cdrecorder entries. I've not fully migrated to 10.1 yet, so I haven't had to 
focus on those details. There are many others on the list who'll be able to 
help you sort it out, though, so be patient.

Thanks again & regards,

Carl
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[opensuse] SLES 10 x86_64 - Permissions on password database too restrictive

2006-11-13 Thread Chiu, PCM (Peter)

Hi all,

On a couple of our servers running SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10
(x86_64),
we have encountered some intermittent problems when users try to log on
using ssh and failed:

ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password: xx
Permissions on the password database may be too restrictive.

The machine has firewall enabled, but it appears that certain updates
(quite likely from YOU)
have been applied and the firewall has been reset.  As a result no one
can log on over the network
using ssh.

Restarting firewall (by invokine /etc/init.d/SuSEfirewall2_init and
SuSEfirewall2_setup restart alone)
will NOT reactivate the service.  Access is only restored after flushing
the firewall and restarting it.
   
Has anyone come across the same problem?

Any pointers here?

Peter
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Re: [opensuse] Sun to Release Java under GPL

2006-11-13 Thread HG

Hi!

On 11/13/06, Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, isn't this interesting news... just days after the Novell/Microshaft
> thing...

Great news ans interesting indeed :-)

> I wonder if - since it will be released in March - it will make it into the
> next SUSE release - 10.3?

This will be a technical discussion.  If the package is working better
than the binary ones, then we'll add it for sure...

Please, try to at least find a way to get the latest Java available.
It currently quite pain to get it (I'm running 10.0 and can't find
them from smart) as SUN provides some windows style installer for it
and not rpm. (Yeah, I have already mentioned my views on this
installer ... :-)

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[opensuse] Mail is getting to opensuse lists with a 45 minutes delay!

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It passes through Relay1.suse.de at 16:05:15 +0100, but it reaches the 
outside world at 16:54:31 +0100. It started this morning with seven 
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And it is not my ISP, I observe the same at gmail, and on two lists at 
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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread Michael Letourneau

On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:01:36 -0500, "JJ Gitties" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

[snip]
> the enterprise versions at all. What I have started to do is, if someone
> asks me for my thoughts on SUSE, I just lie and say "I have personally
> found
> that it doesn't work as well as . But your
> mileage
> may vary." You can get away with stuff like that. All network environments
> are  different and they all have their peciuliarities.
>

You lie?  Wow this tells me loads about you right there.  How so
unprofessional.  I mean its one thing to not like some software, or a
company, but to actually lie about its performance or its merits.  Wow.

Well at least Novell, though legally obligated to, is releasing details of
their contract.  I am guessing that anyone you deal with has no idea that
you will just lie about things.

Dang.  I am amazed.

Michael

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Re: [opensuse] Sun to Release Java under GPL

2006-11-13 Thread Kai Ponte

On Monday 13 November 2006 05:42, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Kai Ponte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Well, isn't this interesting news... just days after the
> > Novell/Microshaft thing...
> >
> > http://news.lycos.com/dynamic/stories/S/SUN_JAVA_OPEN_SOURCE?SITE=LYCOS&S
> >ECTION=TECHNOLOGY&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-11-13-00-26-47
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/y2fobr
> >
> > I wonder if - since it will be released in March - it will make it into
> > the next SUSE release - 10.3?
>
> This will be a technical discussion.  If the package is working better
> than the binary ones, then we'll add it for sure...

Interesting. I hadn't thought of it in that light. 

I was just bringing attention to it, because openSUSE doesn't include non-OSS 
software, which currently relegates Java to "other" status. Currently, one 
has to install Java separately from the the distro. I'm guessing that won't 
be an issue in the future.

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[opensuse] Playing online media

2006-11-13 Thread Clayton


Normally I don't have any problems playing embedded videos... using
Firefox (1.5.0.7) and the latest MPlayer (plus the w32codecs and
mplayerplugin).  Recently I've noticed that MPlayer isn't able to
pickup and play the embedded video anymore.
Case in point
https://www.jumptv.com/en/channel/kbc/
I'd like to check out what's on offer and watch KBC in Linux.
In my setup, this doesn't work.  I'm sure if "can" work if I can
figure out what's wroing with my MPlayer setup.

But... as a first step, is anyone able to play the sample video on this site?

C
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Re: [opensuse] Goodbye to suse

2006-11-13 Thread Kenneth Schneider

On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 10:01 -0500, JJ Gitties wrote:
> On 11/13/06, SheridanJ West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to thank all of you who have answered posts of mine
> to this
> mailing list (before it renamed).  For the record i was
> waiting 10.2
> and then bang Novell did a sco like licensing deal with the
> evil borg
> persons. 
> 
> Linux does not mean 'i support microsoft with money'
> 
> So I'm moving to new distro.  Whether suse/novell consider us
> a hobby
> user is not important but supporting microsoft is not the deal
> i
> signed on with Suse before Novell bought it. 
> 
> While i may not be supporting the ms deal if say i bought
> disks for
> 10, it's the thought that my loyalty is misplaced now.  I can
> do
> better  and mod perl 2 excites me.
> 
> So thank you once again and goodbye. 

Bla Bla Bla Bla.

Do we have an opensuse-ot list for this stuff.

http://en.opensuse.org/Opensuse_mailing_list_netiquette



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[opensuse] Re: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

2006-11-13 Thread Joachim Schrod


Martin Mielke wrote:


yep, that's why I'm so curious about this new "undocumented feature"... :-)


No offense meant; but you should take the time to learn about
chroot, when you want to use it. It does *NOT* what you expect it to
do and you obviously have no idea what it does. You cannot chroot
into a arbitrary directory that is not set up appropriately and
assume that it works. chroot has nothing per se to do with CDs or
DVDs and you cannot simply use it to "activate" them or to modify
their content, when they don't have a directory setup that is
explicitly meant to do so. (And since your chroot did not succeed,
the setup of your Knoppix CD is obviously not appropriate.)

info chroot may be a start. Or google for "chroot tutorial" and try
some of these matches. If you don't understand that information,
come back with specific questions and there will be surely some
folks on this mailing list that might help you. But currently, we
would have to explain everything from the start; and this mailing
list is not necessarily the place for such tutorials. (At least, I
wouldn't write one here. ;-)

Carlos:


I can reproduce that behaviour (SuSE 10.1):

  nimrodel:~ # ls /mnt/
  dvd  dvd.crypta.x  isocd  isodvd  nfs  nfs_cdrom  nfs_dvd  nfs_su  tmp
  nimrodel:~ # chroot /mnt/
  chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory


What do you expect? In /mnt is no bin directory, as shown by your ls
command; so obviously there won't be a /bin/bash there as well. The
error message "No such file or directory" is quite clear, IMNSHO:
/mnt/bin/bash does not exist. And even if it would be there, the
needed dynamic libraries would be missing, since there is also
neither a lib/ nor a usr/lib/ in /mnt.

chroot makes a directory the new root of the filesystem, i.e., the
new / for the command's process. Each and every path used by any
system call or any command search is now relative to this new root.
The command passed to chroot -- the default command is $SHELL,
that's why it's looking for /bin/bash -- and all its dependencies
(libraries, config files, even device files, etc.) must be reachable
via this new root.


I don't remember this behaviour on previous versions of SuSE :-?


This has never been different; chroot is standard Unix functionality.

HTH,
Joachim

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Re: [opensuse] Sun to Release Java under GPL

2006-11-13 Thread George Stoianov


>
> In any case, I now have no need to even think about learning Mono
> .NET. That was weighing on me and is not any longer an issue.   :)



Exactly right and if the language that is used by many large companies
(banks etc.) is open source, runs on Linux and I can earn my living
working with it that would be ideal. .NET is so similiar to Java and
the EE concepts it is funny. The one big difference is Sun uses java
for their mission critical stuff where as MS shy's away from .NET
since it has not been tested yet etc. 

The whole Mono thing is strange the only huge befit for me as a
developer it offers is the ability to develop on Linux. Don't slam me
I admit I know next to nothing about it, but I think MS will put as
many tied into the OS features as possible for their official .NET
platform that Mono will have a hard time keeping up.

George
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[opensuse] Doubts about OpenSuse Project

2006-11-13 Thread Anderson Fernandes de Alencar

Hi everyone! I have a little doubt, sorry for my terrible english...

After these discussions about the relation between Microsoft-Novell, we
need to be sure about a thing.

If, somehow, we have serious problems in the future because of this
relation, are we able to maintain without Novell support, the OpenSuse?
The community has total access to the source of the distribution? We
will be able to continue the OpenSuse? Or if the Novell decides to sell
it or do any other thing, like close its code, are we able to continue
developing it or we will need to move to another distribution because we
need to pay?

Sorry for too much questions, i hope you understand my point.

TI Team
Instituto Paulo Freire (Brasil)
Alencar e Marcelo

Basil Chupin escreveu:
> Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
>>  
>>
>>  >>> Reply on 13-11-2006 15:43:42 <<<> Basil Chupin wrote:
>>  > >
>>  >
>>  > One thing a lot of people are forgetting, is there's still OpenSUSE,
>>  > which contributes no money whatsoever to MS and isn't likely to
>> receive
>>  > any MS patents.
>>  >
>> c'mon.. in all reports is written that the agreement assures that no
>> USER will get sued my Microsoft. But I've never, really NEVER and
>> NOWHERE read that MS would not sue Novell if they were infringing
>> their patents. Why was this not put in the contract? Microsoft does
>> not grant the usage of their patented work by Novell (there is NO
>> Patent license fee) nor does Novell believe that they infringe any of
>> the MS Patents. So there was basically no need/wish for such a clause
>>  
>> Dominique
>
> Just for the record, if you are going to quote someone when responding
> to a post then quote correctly-- *I* did not write what you attribute
> to me as having "wrote".
>
> Cheers.
>
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Re: [opensuse] 10.1 fstab entries

On Monday 13 November 2006 10:22, Mike Coan wrote:

> In my fstab, running 64bit 10.1,  I have
>
>  /dev/fd0/media/floppyauto
> noauto,user,sync0 0
>
> all on one line of course, and identical to your second option.
>
> My debugfs line is identical to the one above..  i have no entry equivalent
> to your none

Thanks Mike! This helps confirm the fix I implemented earlier.

Carl
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Re: [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

2006-11-13 Thread Randall R Schulz

Carlos,

On Monday 13 November 2006 07:35, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Monday 2006-11-13 at 06:41 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:
> >  # pwd
> > /disk2/mnt/sources
> >
> > # chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
> > chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
>
> Mi understanding is that trying to run a command that is not local to
> the chroot environment would fail. But the chroot command itself
> should run.

If you run chroot with only the new root directory name, it's kind of 
like "su," in that it runs an interactive shell. Or tries to. In this 
case, there was no shell to run (or one of its dynamic dependencies 
could not be resolved), so an error results.

It's all in the man page.

> ...

Randall Schulz
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Re: [SOLVED] [opensuse] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Hello Carlos, hello all,

after reading all the replies posted to the list I reviewed everything again 
and again making tests here and there.

In fact, as Carlos stantes, the command chroot itself runs perfectly. But in 
order to avoid the error that started this thread I must replicate the whole 
environment (directory tree /bin, /lib, /lib/tls, etc) on the chroot'ed jail 
for each command to be executed, as suggested by other users on their posts 
(sorry guys if I don't remember your names now but you know who you are ;) ). 
So, copying both binaries and libraries (obtained by running ldd 
/path/to/binary) was quite tedious but at least I'm on the correct road now...

Let's see what happens next! :-)

Thanks everybody for their help and suggestions!

Regards,
Martin

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The Monday 2006-11-13 at 06:41 -0800, Martin Mielke wrote:

>  # pwd
> /disk2/mnt/sources
> 
> # chroot /disk2/mnt/sources
> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory

Mi understanding is that trying to run a command that is not local to the 
chroot environment would fail. But the chroot command itself should run.

Look, the info page says:

|  Exit status:
|
| 1   if `chroot' itself fails
| 126 if COMMAND is found but cannot be invoked
| 127 if COMMAND cannot be found
| the exit status of COMMAND otherwise

nimrodel:~ # chroot /mnt ; echo $?
chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
127
nimrodel:~ #

So, it is trying to execute a command on entry, although I have specified 
none. It must be bash itself.

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   Carlos E. R.

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[opensuse] Firewire raid on Suse

2006-11-13 Thread James D. Parra

Hello,

Is it possible to set up a RAID on multiple firewire devices on Suse 10.0?

Thank you,

James 
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