Re: [opensuse] DVD Video with K3B error

2007-06-02 Thread jdd

John wrote:

Am trying to burn video DVDs from a standard VIDEO_TS directory on my
hard drive (it is coming from a FAT32 partition), and every time I put
in a blank to burn (+R or -R) I get the error:
:-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
and it spits the DVD out. If I then close the DVD drawer and press the
burn button again, it works.
Any ideas?
John


don't you have in the video_ts folder files like "anchor" or such 
other lowcase name file? My (XP) video editing proigramm let such file 
in the video_ts folder. these files prevent videos from working, si 
they must be deleted. on XP Nero do this automatically, may be k3b do 
the same


jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Assembly Language program

2007-06-02 Thread M Harris
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:22, azeem ahmad wrote:
> i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
> but i am being unable to get it done
Whoa bubba... I am surprised you can make lunch... but seriously, who 
taught 
you how to write assembler code?Ok, here is a sample "hello, world!" 
program that includes a counted loop to the iolib wrapper routine 
( hello.asm ) and the io wrapper ( iolib.asm ) and a Makefile. All you will 
need to build this hello world demo in opensuse is yasm|nasm , binutils 
( ld ) and elf (standard).  Its a flat 32 bit sample, staticly linked, and 
does not call any of the c library.  Enjoy, but pay particular attention to 
the format, the style, the comments, and the Makefile.  note: do not include 
the /begin /end lines in the code files.


section .text
global _start
extern stdOut

_start:
mov ecx,count   ;loop counter
mov eax,hello   ;setup data hello
mov edx,hellolen

wrtHello:
callstdOut  ;write data hello
loopwrtHello;loop back until counter is zero

mov eax,1   ;sys_exit
mov ebx,0   ;return code 0 (no error)
int 80h ;call the kernel

section .data
hello   db  'Hello, World!',10
hellolen:   equ $-hello
count:  equ 07h



section .text
global stdOut

stdOut:
pushedx ;save environment
pushecx ;
pushebx ;
pusheax ;
mov ecx,eax ;setup data register
mov eax,4   ;sys_write
mov ebx,1   ;standard out
int 80h ;call kernell
pop eax ;restore environment
pop ebx ;
pop ecx ;
pop edx ;
ret



all: hello

AS = yasm
ASMOPTS = -f elf
LINKOPTS = -s -o hello

hello: hello.o iolib.o
ld $(LINKOPTS) hello.o iolib.o

hello.o: hello.asm
$(AS) $(ASMOPTS) hello.asm

iolib.o: iolib.asm
$(AS) $(ASMOPTS) iolib.asm

clean:
rm hello.o iolib.o hello

install:
cp hello ~/bin/





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Re: [opensuse] again ndiswrapper!

2007-06-02 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 02 June 2007 17:07, Danesh Daroui wrote:
> I am desperately trying to make my wireless card working with
> "ndiswrapper". Actually, it used to work fine before and the problem
> began when I reinstalled opensuse! I have reinstalled "ndiswrapper" many
> times. I did also run "modprobe ndiswrapper" and "ndiswrapper -m" after
> installation but my wireless card doesn't work! Can anybody help?
Maybe...

... sometimes what happens is that the reinstall of openSUSE 
*reinstalls* the 
driver (outofbox) that is supposed to support that card, but in fact 
doesn't...  in other words, hal loads a module for the ath device effectively 
preventing ndiswrapper from loading the appropriate proprietary driver. 
Basically the steps are as followings:
1) find out which driver is being loaded for the card

use lsmod from root to get a printout of all loaded modules 
after bootup

2) remove or rename those mods... 

3) install the proprietary drivers into an appropriate directory and 
then 
install then with:

ndiswrapper -i /home/yourdriver.inf

4) check the driver got installed

ndiswrapper -l

5) Use yast to configure the card and under advanced hardware enter 
ndiswrapper as the driver name.

Should work fine... well, better than no driver at all. 

Try to find a card that will work without ndiswrapper.  I recommend the 
 
WG311T  from netgear...  108mb/s  802.11a,b,g  and the ath drives work great 
right out of the box...   stay away from the WG311v3...   supposed to be the 
same and it does not work without ndiswrapper.  words to the wise.



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Re: [opensuse] tightvnc version

2007-06-02 Thread M Harris
On Saturday 02 June 2007 06:59, Joseph Loo wrote:
> I get a multiplication when doing it. I do not think it is tightvnc that is
> doing it because, if you open a standard xterm, it comes out as 8.
Yes, that is my result also... that is why I used xev... because it 
will tell 
me exactly which keysyms are being sent to KDE and being interpretted by 
KCalc...  this is the update I sent to the tightvnc people:



 I am using tightvnc 1.2.9 which shipped with openSUSE 10.0.  I have 
several headless application servers serving shared kde desktops across ssh 
tunnels with the vncviewer also running as the client on openSUSE 10.0.   
This setup is working great, and I want to thank the team who is making GPL 
tightvnc possible.

I have a minor concern with the way the numeric keypad is handled, and I am 
wondering whether this has already been addressed, or if I need to open a bug 
report.  I did some searching but did not find what I was looking for.

In version 1.2.9 the numeric keypad is not being handled properly when the 
numlock is on.  From my vncviewer client I am accessing my remote kde desktop 
and running (from within a konsole) the xev tool. This displays the x events 
(keypresses and keyreleases) plus the associated keysyms. With the numlock 
off the keypad works as I would expect it to. The 7 key is keysym KP_Home, 
the 8 key is KP_Up, etc.  Each key receives ONE keypress event, and ONE 
keyrelease event.  However, when the numlock is on then the behavior is not 
expected which causes different kinds of problems depending which app is 
needing the keypad.  With numlock on the 7 key recieves [ in this order ] :
keypressshift_L
keypressKP_7
keyrelease  shift_L
keyrelease  KP_Home
[ this is not correct behavior, even though it does work for 
some things ]
The 8 key press with numlock on gives:
keypressshift_L
keypressKP_8
keyrelease  shift_L
keyrelease  KP_Up
[again, not correct and very strange behavior in some apps]

The shift meta keys should not be used at all--- although the technique would 
work for the most part if the keyreleases were in the correct order.  Here is 
what happens in  kcalc ---  the 8 key activates the  *  key [multiplication 
key] why?-- because the 8 is being interpretted as an "8" with the shift_L 
key down... "*".    

Using the shift_L technique vncviewer should be sending the keyrelease shift_L 
*last*.   However, even so, it will not work in KCalc because the 8 key will 
still be interpretted as an  * .

What should be happening is this:
keypressNum_Lock
keyrelease  Num_lock
keypressKP_8
keyrelease  KP_8

So, I would like to know is this a bug?  If so, has it been fixed in 1.3.x (I 
have downloaded the tarball but have not installed it as yet)?  Is there a 
work-around in the current version, or is there something I am missing here?



The tightvnc folks say to install the 1.3.9 version... which I *have* 
downloaded, but which I have not installed as yet.  They tell me that the old 
version numlock state was the state of the Server PC instead of the Client 
PC. When the client pushes numlock the numlock comes on at the client but 
stays off at the server.   Yikes.  I am playing with that now... but have 
not confirmed that that is my problem.  I still think its a bug in vncviewer.  
Different apps give different results depending on whether the keyreleases 
are valid symbols for the app!

I'll keep you posted.  :-|



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Re: [opensuse] again ndiswrapper!

2007-06-02 Thread Andrew Burgess

On 6/2/07, Danesh Daroui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

I am desperately trying to make my wireless card working with
"ndiswrapper". Actually, it used to work fine before and the problem
began when I reinstalled opensuse! I have reinstalled "ndiswrapper" many
times. I did also run "modprobe ndiswrapper" and "ndiswrapper -m" after
installation but my wireless card doesn't work! Can anybody help?

Regards,

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What kind of wireless card is it?  Have you properly configured it using YaST?
Try following the steps from http://en.opensuse.org/Ndiswrapper

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Re: [opensuse] Running process list

2007-06-02 Thread Jonathan Ervine
On Saturday 02 June 2007 15:22:01 Cristea Bogdan wrote:
> Is there a way to visualise all running processes?
> In my case, I launch an application with nohup command in a terminal
> window, but  if the terminal is closed and then reopened again I cannot see
> the process previously launched with nohup.
>

That seems to be two questions.
1. Can you visualise all running processes? Yes, ksysguard or top will surely 
show what you want...
2. Can you reattach to the output from a process started from a terminal that 
is then closed? Yes, (sort of) if you redirect the stderr and stdout to a 
file, you can use tail -f to see a live output from a process you've closed 
the originating terminal of.

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Re: [opensuse] Help - suse 10.2 webcam woes - no /dev/video device

2007-06-02 Thread joe
james wright wrote:
> On Saturday 02 June 2007 07:55:01 pm joe wrote:
>> I recently bought a logitech quickcam on sale, to plug it into my suse 10.2
>> workstation and try to get it going. When I plug the camera in, it seems to
>> be recognized by the kernel



> This link may get you started:
> 
> 

Yes, that worked perfectly - thanks for the pointer!

Joe
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Re: [opensuse] KWeather Font

2007-06-02 Thread Kai Ponte
On Sat, June 2, 2007 6:31 am, Jim Flanagan wrote:
> Kai Ponte wrote:
>> I would like to change the font on KWeather. However, it doesn't
appear to be easy. I did google and found at least this recent
>> post...
>>
>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=446241
>>
>> ..which seems to indicate I can't.
>>
>> I don't appreciate that answer. Too limiting.  Too much like
>> wintendo.
>>
>> Any ideas on how I can do it? I want the font to be white. I'm
>> changing my KDE background to be black with a transparent kicker. I
want all fonts to be white. So far, I've changed the desktop icons
and
>> the time/date.  Now I need kweather and the kicker icons.
>>
>> Here's an example of what it should look like - except for the
>> debian
>> thingy. I don't know Debbie or Ian, so don't want to use that.
>>
>> http://i9.tinypic.com/68jhszn.png
>>
>> I also really like her menu, which is a far-cry more cool than
>> mine...
>>
>> http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070601_suse_menu.jpg
>>
>>
> I think you set the font in KDE>Control Center. Not sure which
setting does it for KWeather, but it reads the system settings.

Unfortunately, I can't set the font for Kweather at all. I "can" set
the  font for the buttons, but I - unfortunately - end up with white
menus. Not so good. :P

http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070603_suse_desk.jpg

This seems to be more or less okay. I just had to get rid of KWeather
until I can compile it and tell it to run with white menus.

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Re: [opensuse] Dual Boot Vista on Laptop - Not Solved!

2007-06-02 Thread Kai Ponte
On Fri, June 1, 2007 1:47 pm, Carl Spitzer wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 21:29 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote:
>> On Sat, May 26, 2007 4:15 pm, Carl Spitzer wrote:
>> > Try partitioning with Gparted the bootable distro.
>> > Look and feel just as Partition Magic then install Suse and
>> reinstall
>> > Vista if you must.
>> >
>> > VMware or Xen depends on availability of images for the Vista.
>> >
>>
>> Eh, I've already just wiped Vista off the face of this system. I
>> have
>> VMWare installed, but need to find my XP image. If not, I'll have to
>> build one. :P
>>
>> Here's debian running under VMWare on my lappie..
>>
>> http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070524_debian_vmware.jpg
>>
>>
> I am told there are builds of XP you can download otherwise swap in a
> spare drive install XP and whatever else you will need for that
> hardware
> and then make a DD of the C drive.
>
> I assume if your into this sophisticated setup you already have a home
> network and server for file sharing etc.
>


heh - not really.

I did end up installing XP from one of my CD's I have lying around.

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Re: [opensuse] Help - suse 10.2 webcam woes - no /dev/video device

2007-06-02 Thread james wright
On Saturday 02 June 2007 07:55:01 pm joe wrote:
> I recently bought a logitech quickcam on sale, to plug it into my suse 10.2
> workstation and try to get it going. When I plug the camera in, it seems to
> be recognized by the kernel, as seen in the log messages below.
>
>
> usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
> usb 2-2: new device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=092e
> usb 2-2: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
> usb 2-2: Product: Camera
> usb 2-2: Manufacturer:
> usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Linux video capture interface: v2.00
> drivers/media/video/usbvideo/quickcam_messenger.c: Logitech Quickcam
> Messenger USB v0.01
> usbcore: registered new driver QCM
>
>
> Looks good, right? Well, the problem is that there is no /dev/video*, so
> there is no way to access the camera. How do we fix this egregious
> situation? In the old days, we'd simply issue a makedev command and be good
> to go.
>
> So, how to coax udev into creating the needed device?
>
> Joe

Well, your camera appears to be supported:



This link may get you started:



I do not have that driver installed here, but if you follow those directions 
and can use the camera via kopete, you should be well on your way.

- James W



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[opensuse] KDE 4 (Paralllel to KDE 3 on OpenSUSE 10.2) installation issues

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

Hi All,

Trying to install factory build of the KDE 4 on my exisitng openSUSE
10.2 (KDE 3.5.7 upgraded) . Following the instructions from
(http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4).

1. Using YaST, added the factory repository to installation source.

2. Not knowing what are the packages I need to install to get a KDE 4
desktop with basic apps, I tried installing (i) kde4-meta-base (ii)
kde4-meta-default & (iii) kdebase4-session.But Faced with yast
conflict list (attached with the email).

3. In the openSUSE wiki it is said that

"The kde4-meta-base package depends on the packages for a basic KDE4
desktop while ..."

which doesn't made any sense to me. If it is dependent then what is
that dependency list?

finally all I am looking for is to install a basic kde4 desktop
installation. Please advise?

Thanks,

Soyuz
 YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2007-06-03 11:48:50 

kde4-kopete-3.90.1.svn668132-7.1.i586[20070603-103316] cannot be installed due 
to missing dependencies
There are no installable providers of libqca.so.2 for 
kde4-kopete-3.90.1.svn668132-7.1.i586[20070603-103316]
Conflict Resolution:
(x) do not install kde4-kopete
( ) Ignore this requirement just here
kde4-meta-default-3.90.1-2.3.i586[20070603-103316] cannot be installed due to 
missing dependencies
There are no installable providers of phonon_gst for 
kde4-meta-default-3.90.1-2.3.i586[20070603-103316]
Conflict Resolution:
( ) do not install kde4-meta-default
( ) Ignore this requirement just here
kdelibs4-3.90.1.svn670163-3.2.i586[20070603-103316] cannot be installed due to 
missing dependencies
There are no installable providers of kdelibs4-icons for 
kdelibs4-3.90.1.svn670163-3.2.i586[20070603-103316]
Conflict Resolution:
( ) do not install kdelibs4
( ) Ignore this requirement just here

 YaST2 conflicts list END ###


Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 02 June 2007 16:43, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
> > "The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4
> > can be installed at the same time."
>
> what does it mean by "/usr prefix"?

All the files it installs reside in a subdirectory of the /usr 
directory. In KDE version 3.x, all the files were in a subdirectory 
of /opt. Thus the two can coexist on a single system without 
interfering with each other.


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Re: [now OT] Re: [opensuse] knetwork manager issues

2007-06-02 Thread JB2
On Fri 01 June 07 22:44, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2007-06-01 20:49, Sean Craig wrote:
> > Wow, you are a rude little boy!  Is that really the best you can come up
> > 
>
> Please don't waste your bandwidth and mine on the rabble. They already
> waste enough of it.

  As you waste just as much telling him so, and deciding in your elitism who 
is "rabble". What was that about hypocrisy?

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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-02 19:07, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> 
>
> You get that error when instead of burning the already existing iso image
> 8as is the presumed intention of the OP), you try instead to create a new
> iso image, containing a single file which is the already existing iso
I realized this is what he was actually doing, when I saw it in the
other thread.


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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-02 at 18:27 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:

> > k3b is giving an error message that the maximum size one can burn is 4.0 
> > GB. 
> > The file is 4.3 GB
> >   
> I have never had that problem -- try to burn from the command line using
> growisofs and see if that is where the error is originating.

But I have (on the CLI).   >:-)

You get that error when instead of burning the already existing iso image 
8as is the presumed intention of the OP), you try instead to create a new 
iso image, containing a single file which is the already existing iso 
image. Ie, an iso image inside an iso image. Linux will not complain, k3b 
will not complain, the user is the boss; however, the "inside" file can 
not be bigger than 2 GiB.

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Re: [opensuse] using ~/Mail (was: Best way to copy mail (kmail))

2007-06-02 Thread Carlos F Lange
On Fri June 1 2007 08:55, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 May 2007, Carlos F Lange wrote:
> > using ~/Mail (was: Best way to copy mail (kmail))
>
> Dear Carlos,
> Liked the idea of a visible Mail directory but had no time to work on
> it. Finilly I have tried to move my kmail directory to a newly made
> ~/Mail directory but that does not seem to work.
> Could you give some hints how to move my mails to the new directory?

Constant,
Since you did not have ~/Mail at the first login when .kde/ was created, 
your Kmail setting was pointed to the traditional place and now you 
have to edit kmailrc.

Quit Kmail and open ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc with your favourite 
editor and find at the end the section [General]. In that section there 
is an entry "folders" which should read:
folders=$HOME/Mail
Restart Kmail and see if it now sees your mail folders again.

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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-02 13:52, James Knott wrote:
> Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>   
>> Use K3b in KDE or Gnomebaker (?) in Gnome
>> 
> When in Gnome, do as the Gnomans...  ;-)
>
>
>
>   

\
don't give up your day job, James :-)

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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-03 05:15, SOTL wrote:
> On Saturday 02 June 2007 09:26, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>   
>> On 2007-06-03 03:00, SOTL wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> Is there a dd comand that will allow onw to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7GB
>>> DVD blank disk?
>>>   
>> Use K3b in KDE or Gnomebaker (?) in Gnome, or if you absolutely must use
>> the CLI, growisofs.
>> 
>
> k3b is giving an error message that the maximum size one can burn is 4.0 GB. 
> The file is 4.3 GB
>   
I have never had that problem -- try to burn from the command line using
growisofs and see if that is where the error is originating.
> I noticed some one pointed out the error in time.
> Bios time is set correct so issue is not bios.
>   
Your system clock is one day fast, and is set to EST not EDT. Are you
setting system time from a NTP server at boot?

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Re: [opensuse] kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 upgrade conflict

2007-06-02 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Joe Morris (NTM) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06-02-07 19:28]:
>   
>> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
>> 
>>> openSUSE 10.1 x86_64 SMP
>>>
>>> error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkresources.so.1.2.0 from install of
>>> kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 conflicts with file from package
>>> kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>> Is it trying to update to an i586 package?  Assuming you are running
>> the x86_64 arch of kde, it should not have a file in /opt/kde3/lib
>> 
>
> no, "kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3"
> and yes, x86_64
>
> 19:43 wahoo:~ > rpm -ql kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
> /opt/kde3
> /opt/kde3/lib
> /opt/kde3/lib/kde3
> ...
>
> 19:45 wahoo:~ > rpm -ql kdelibs3-3.5.7-10.1 | grep lib | head
> /opt/kde3/lib
> /opt/kde3/lib/kde3
> /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/plugins-lib64
> /opt/kde3/lib64
> /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3
> /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/cupsdconf.la
> /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/cupsdconf.so
> /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/dcopserver.la
> /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/dcopserver.so
> /opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kabc_dir.la
> ...
>
>   
That was my point.  I realize the -32 bit package would have files in
/opt/kde3/lib.  Your error says the kdelibs3 is conflicting.  If it is
conflicting on the indicated file (not trimmed out for you to see) it
would have to be trying to install the i586 version, not the x86_64
version, which would have that file in /opt/kde3/lib64, i.e.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -qf /opt/kde3/lib64/libkresources.so.1.2.0
kdelibs3-3.5.7-10.1
(This is on 10.2)

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[opensuse] DVD Video with K3B error

2007-06-02 Thread John
Am trying to burn video DVDs from a standard VIDEO_TS directory on my
hard drive (it is coming from a FAT32 partition), and every time I put
in a blank to burn (+R or -R) I get the error:
:-( unable to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Input/output error
and it spits the DVD out. If I then close the DVD drawer and press the
burn button again, it works.
Any ideas?
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[opensuse] Help - suse 10.2 webcam woes - no /dev/video device

2007-06-02 Thread joe
I recently bought a logitech quickcam on sale, to plug it into my suse 10.2
workstation and try to get it going. When I plug the camera in, it seems to be
recognized by the kernel, as seen in the log messages below.


usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
usb 2-2: new device found, idVendor=046d, idProduct=092e
usb 2-2: new device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
usb 2-2: Product: Camera
usb 2-2: Manufacturer:
usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Linux video capture interface: v2.00
drivers/media/video/usbvideo/quickcam_messenger.c: Logitech Quickcam Messenger
USB v0.01
usbcore: registered new driver QCM


Looks good, right? Well, the problem is that there is no /dev/video*, so there
is no way to access the camera. How do we fix this egregious situation? In
the old days, we'd simply issue a makedev command and be good to go.

So, how to coax udev into creating the needed device?

Joe

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Re: [opensuse] kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 upgrade conflict

2007-06-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Joe Morris (NTM) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06-02-07 19:28]:
> Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> > openSUSE 10.1 x86_64 SMP
> >
> > error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkresources.so.1.2.0 from install of
> > kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 conflicts with file from package
> > kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
> >
> >   
> Is it trying to update to an i586 package?  Assuming you are running
> the x86_64 arch of kde, it should not have a file in /opt/kde3/lib

no, "kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3"
and yes, x86_64

19:43 wahoo:~ > rpm -ql kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
/opt/kde3
/opt/kde3/lib
/opt/kde3/lib/kde3
...

19:45 wahoo:~ > rpm -ql kdelibs3-3.5.7-10.1 | grep lib | head
/opt/kde3/lib
/opt/kde3/lib/kde3
/opt/kde3/lib/kde3/plugins-lib64
/opt/kde3/lib64
/opt/kde3/lib64/kde3
/opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/cupsdconf.la
/opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/cupsdconf.so
/opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/dcopserver.la
/opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/dcopserver.so
/opt/kde3/lib64/kde3/kabc_dir.la
...

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

"The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be
installed at the same time."


what does it mean by "/usr prefix"?

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Re: [opensuse] kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 upgrade conflict

2007-06-02 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> openSUSE 10.1 x86_64 SMP
>
> error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkresources.so.1.2.0 from install of
> kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 conflicts with file from package
> kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3
>
>   
Is it trying to update to an i586 package?  Assuming you are running the
x86_64 arch of kde, it should not have a file in /opt/kde3/lib

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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2007-06-03 at 06:15 -0500, SOTL wrote:

> > > Is there a dd comand that will allow onw to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7GB
> > > DVD blank disk?
> >
> > Use K3b in KDE or Gnomebaker (?) in Gnome, or if you absolutely must use
> > the CLI, growisofs.
> 
> k3b is giving an error message that the maximum size one can burn is 4.0 GB. 
> The file is 4.3 GB

You are not trying to burn the 4.3 iso file. You are trying to create and 
burn a new iso with your previous iso file of 4.3 GB inside, and that is 
impossible (maximun file size inside an iso is 2 GiB). Plus, the result 
would not be what you expected.

Choose the option in k3b to burn an iso image, not the option to "create" 
an iso image.

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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Sunday 2007-06-03 at 04:00 -0500, SOTL wrote:

> Is there a dd comand that will allow onw to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7GB DVD 
> blank disk?

No. A DVD/CD can not be written to in the normal way, it has to be burned.

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Re: [opensuse] Filesystem becomes read-only GETTING WORSE

2007-06-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 13:10 +0100, G T Smith wrote:

> >> On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 10:24 -0600, Tim Donnelly wrote:
> >>> I am using Suse 10.2 on two different machines.  One is a new Dell
> >>> Poweredge 2970, the other is an older (2002) "no-name" server.
> > 
> >> I have the same problem with two machines, one a dual core x86_64 and a
> >> AMD XP2000 ... self built together and working 2 and 5 years
> >> respectively.
> > 
> >>>   Both have experienced a strange and severe problem since I installed
> >>> Suse.
> > 
> >> i had it with SuSE 9.3, 10.0, 10.1 (Boxed Novell purchased version) and
> >> now with OpenSUSE 10.2
> > 
> >>> Basically the file system is put into a read-only state.
> > 
> >> This I noticed only now with OpenSUSE 10.2, the others just locked up
> >> solid.
> > 
> >>>  While the OS and all apps are still running and I can log in a view
> >>> files/logs etc. nothing can write to the disks.
> > 
> >> I could only log in ssh from another machine.
> > 
> >>> Obviously this causes all kinds of problems.  The only way to get the
> >>> filesystem into a more interactive state is a hard reboot.
> > 
> >> Same here
> > 
> >>> The first two times this occurred, there were messages in
> >>> the /var/log/messages file relating to megasas,
> > 
> >> I did not see it at all. The x86_64 system has SATA, and the other IDE
> > 
> >>>  however as soon as the system was restarted, these warnings
> >>> disappeared.
> > 
> >> Until some days later perhaps. I have excessive problems with some
> >> versions of Evolution and the newest OpenOffice 2.2 running high disk
> >> access, then no access to the system is possible; the disks are in
> >> constant access (LED permanently on). Just the M$ reset trick works.
> > 
> >> :-(
> >> Al
> > 
> > 
> > I have been experiencing something similar, the last occurrence involved
> > FAM writing several hundred messages complaining about to many files
> > being open. On a previous occasion I noted fam at 100% utilisation just
> > before everything locked up (no log message ... the log was then read
> > only). I suspect this is a symptom not a fault. In my case there seem to
> > indications of a memory leak of some sort but I am not in position to
> > pin it down anything in particular yet.
> > 
> > What I do not know is whether if the kernel detects an internal problem
> > it sets the file system to read only to avoid possible file corruption.
> > 
> > 

> 
> > I had the same issue, I had to run e2fsck to clear the issue. My
> > journal appear to have gotten damage, once I ran that. It fixed. So of
> > you got your dvd, you might want to do a recuse you and run that
> > command.
> 
> I use reiserFS on this machine not ext2/ext3. In my case there are other
> symptoms particularly with network connections that indicate this is not
> just a file system issue.
> 
> I also found out today why some people have reservations about ext3. As
> an experiment I have one ext3 partition on my laptop... Which decided
> today to do an enforced fsck. If the whole thing was ext3 it would have
> taken 20 minutes to login. Not amused...
> 
> [I know someone will tell me this is configurable... but alarm bells
> ring for me if a file system cannot trust itself]
> 
> 


I noticed on two different systems this sort of messages
in /var/logs/messages:

Jun  2 22:15:03 kakalapap kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51
{ DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Jun  2 22:15:03 kakalapap kernel: hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04
{ DriveStatusError }
Jun  2 22:15:03 kakalapap kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef

In one case at boot time it was a ReiserFS disk, which had to be removed
before the problem ceased. It is not mounted now, and all seems OK for
now.

It is becoming a nag now. It occured after I install OpenSUSE 10.2 on
each of these systems. The newest was today, when it refused to boot
before the ReiseFS disk was repaired. It came from the previous SuSE 8.1
that was put to rest after running 24x7x256 since 2000!! It only needed
3 restarts in the six years it was a ADSL router and Firewall. Now with
the new hardware cleanly installed with OpenSUSE 10.2, with the 6 year
old ReiserFS disk mounted to /home//Data, OpenSUSE dies with a
read-only FS. ...

My home system often locks down when I use Evolution, when it says it
can not display the message, and then the file system goes Read-Only,
with the messages above. The "kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xef" was
noticed at the new system I installed today during boot. 

Reading the above, I wonder if it has to do with mixed FS's. The other
partitions are now standard from OpenSUSE; ext3. What is a good
alternative to ReiserFS and EXT3? Any experiences with ReiserFS (which I
used as standard for 2 years with very little problems) and XFS?

:-(
Al



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[opensuse] again ndiswrapper!

2007-06-02 Thread Danesh Daroui

Hi all,

I am desperately trying to make my wireless card working with 
"ndiswrapper". Actually, it used to work fine before and the problem 
began when I reinstalled opensuse! I have reinstalled "ndiswrapper" many 
times. I did also run "modprobe ndiswrapper" and "ndiswrapper -m" after 
installation but my wireless card doesn't work! Can anybody help?


Regards,

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Re: [opensuse] Running process list

2007-06-02 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 02 June 2007 07:22, Cristea Bogdan wrote:
> Is there a way to visualise all running processes?
> In my case, I launch an application with nohup command in a terminal
> window, but  if the terminal is closed and then reopened again I
> cannot see the process previously launched with nohup.

There's a KDE utility called "KDE System Guard" that, among other 
things, can show a list of running processes. It's a monitoring 
application that can also graph ongoing system activity for local and 
remote systems.

In addition to being launchable via the KDE menu (KDE -> System -> 
Monitor -> Performance Monitor (KSysGuard)) KDE System Guard can be 
quickly activated by typing CTRL+Escape.

KDE System Guard includes documentation (via the Help menu).


Check it out.


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[opensuse] kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 upgrade conflict

2007-06-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan

openSUSE 10.1 x86_64 SMP

error: file /opt/kde3/lib/libkresources.so.1.2.0 from install of
kdelibs3-3.5.7-23.1 conflicts with file from package
kdelibs3-32bit-3.5.1-49.18.3

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[opensuse] Dualhead Matrox

2007-06-02 Thread Danesh Daroui

Hi all,

I am installing opensuse on my new system. It uses Matrox graphic card 
which supports three monitors to be connected. I also have a logitech 
wireless keyboard and mouse. Is there anyone who had experienced these 
with opensuse, and do they work finr with opensusye?


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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Richard Bos
Op Saturday 02 June 2007 12:27:13 schreef Mohammad Bhuyan:
> Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
> http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.
>
> 1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?

As stated on the wiki page:
"The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be 
installed at the same time."

So yes, kde3 and kde4 are installed in parallel.

> 2. If yes, should I expect a option to choose KDE 3 / KDE 4 at my login?

I guess so.  The same way as you can choose between gnome, kde, etc.
But kde4 information is installed in ~/.kde4

> 3. I am assuming that I will have to get the KDE packages for specific
> to 4. which is OK with me. But how likely it is to break my existing
> my total system?
>
> (I can't afford to break my current working desktop so please advise
> if the whole idea is not very wise. I am interested as I am interested
> to contribute to development.)

See above it is seperated from kde3.  But you can always start with the kde4 
live CD.

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Re: [opensuse] Assembly Language program

2007-06-02 Thread Vince L
On Saturday 02 June 2007 04:22, azeem ahmad wrote:
> hi list
> i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
> but i am being unable to get it done
> please review the code below and tell me if there is any problem with it

Very funny!!! I have recently left a job in part because I became very tired 
of reviewing rubbish code in assembler when I felt certain I could write the 
same thing in C and leave less problems if my C was unreviewed than there 
would be if I reviewed someone else's misguided assembler.

> ---
>--- .code16 #assembler
> directive to start 16-bit real mode for execution .text /*assembler
> directive to tell the start of 'read-only'
> code segment*/
> .org 0x00 /*assembler directive to set the origon to sector 0
> needed to copy the program to the very first sector
> of the floppy disk*/
>
> .global _start /*assembler directive to export the start section to
> all other programs, i.e. to make it visible to programs
> like linker or other user programs*/
>
> ... (etc)

Good grief man, no one in their right mind is going to review that. Or if they 
do, you should doubt the value of their comments.

If anyone asked me to review something looking like that, I would have told 
them to represent it, properly formatted. I used to teach our company's code 
review course, and I said that some code was so poor that it did not meet the 
entry criteria for review, and that it should be returned without review. 
Yours is so badly formatted thatnobody should waste their time reviewing it.

The comment I make is harsh - but please understand that if you want someone 
to even look at your code for 5 minutes, you have to convince them that you 
made good judgements when you worked on it for 5 hours.

Try something like this below - and don't insult your reviewer by telling him 
that each line beginning with '.' is an assembler directive. If he knows this 
already, you are making it harder for him to read. If he doesn't know this, 
you are wasting his time and yours by having him review it.

> .code16   # 16-bit real mode for execution
> .text # start of 'read-only' code segment
> .org 0x00 # origin at sector 0
>   # - ie floppy disk sector 0
>
> .global _start# make _start visible for linking

More:

> call _disp# call subroutine disp
Useless comment. Says what you can see from the code

> _disp:#label of the disp routine
That too is a useless comment. Again, either we know it's a label, or we have 
nothing useful to contribute to a review. No comment is needed here, it just 
makes the rest harder to read.

> lodsb# load the string pointed by ds:si in a
>  # - byte by byte manner into the accumulator
This is a misleading comment. You should be shot for this. AFAICS, this 
instruction loads just 1 byte, it does not do anything byte by byte - it is 
the _disp loop as a whole which does byte by byte.

> jz ret   # jump if al zero to return
Another useless comment for the same reason. I am not hot on Intel assembler, 
so I don't know it is al which is zero compared - but I do know that to 
review this I would have to know what jz does - so as reviewer, I know it is 
my responsibility either to understand each line or to find out what it does

> or %al, %al  # check if the entire string has been loaded byte-wise
>  # by oring al to al,
>  # if the result is 0, there are no more bytes to load
This is a far more useful comment, because it reveals strategy - ie what you 
are trying to do. Line 2 of the comment [by oring al to al] is useless 
because it says how you are trying to do it, but we can already see that from 
the code. You should tell your reviewer what you are trying to do - he is not 
a mind reader, otherwise you are wasting his time trying to work it out. 

Overall, taking the _disp loop as an example, you need a good 'strategy' 
comment to say what the loop is intended to achieve. If this comment is good, 
you need less comments on the individual lines.


If your intention is to make a bootable floppy, you may find this link useful: 
http://linuxgazette.net/issue84/dashti.html. Good luck with your coding - but 
even if you are fixing the comments in this code, you've had your 5 minutes 
from me. May be this is not the help you expected - I have been been hard on 
your style - but I hope that it will help you in the future.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread John E. Perry
Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
> http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.
> 
> 1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?
> 

I'vwe never tried this with kde, but when I had to test programs under
several compilers at work, I handled it by installing the compilers and
their libraries to /opt/, then writing a shell script that
linked them to /usr and /etc.  When I needed to change compiler, I
executed the script for that version.

I can't see why this wouldn't work for a window manager.

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Re: [opensuse] Finally Frustrated enough about Mouse Clicks...

2007-06-02 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 01 June 2007, Michael Letourneau wrote:

> I believe because it happens in both XFCE and KDE that its X related, also
> when I use x11vnc to come in, the mouse behaves fine, single clicks are
> single clicks.

When you use X11VNC it implies you are coming from a different machine
and a different mouse, and a different X11 server.

So try a different mouse. They are dirt cheap these days. 

What CPU is in use?  Dual core perhaps?

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Re: [opensuse] How to Block Public Proxies

2007-06-02 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 01 June 2007, Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru) wrote:
> Hi !
>
> We have Squid installed as transparent proxy, and it blocks certain web
> sites. However, I we have seen some users use public proxies like
> ninjaproxy in order to visit these sites.
>
> Is there any way to block public proxies along with those annoying sites?
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s)

Probably not without content filtering on every machine on your network.

You are engaged in a never ending battle when you try to block sites with
a population of users who are older than 12, because there are so many
ways around a blockage and so few tools at hand to do the job.

You could try to add the entire /24 of these proxies to your firewall banned 
IP list, but be aware there are thousands of these popping up every day.

China is in a similar battle, and their efforts are increasingly failing.

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Re: [opensuse] Revolution in networking - possible ?

2007-06-02 Thread John Andersen
On Friday 01 June 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> You saw a carefully crafted demo. Don't assume you'd see similar
> performance in a real-world situation.

What do you call "Real World"?

Cisco is not about to try to sell something with fraudulent demos.
After all, they do stand behind their products and would have to
answer to their customers.  

The documentation clearly points out the areas and methods where
this technology will be useful, and it is aimed at the corporate environment,
with wide area networks, not general web browsing or home users downloading
ISOs of opensuse.  It requires their products on both ends as is clearly
shown in the referenced URLs.

In its intended environment, I see no reason it could not achieve the
results it claims and no reason to assume carefully crafted test
scenarios.  So much of the traffic across corporate lans/wans is composed
of static files or seldom changing files or easily compressible files that any 
half way intelligent caching, buffering, compression imposed at the network
level could easily achieve these results.

The only misunderstanding here was on the part of the OP, in not realizing
that this was intended for the corporate world, and not home use.

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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread James Knott
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> Use K3b in KDE or Gnomebaker (?) in Gnome
When in Gnome, do as the Gnomans...  ;-)



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Re: [opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread jdd

Eberhard Roloff wrote:


Yes I did. Sorry for this.


no problem. One user one config :-)



I wonder whether your type of usage, while being extremely impressive to
me, fullfills what the subject "backup for home users" tries to promise.
;-))


I'm a completely home user (retired). My videos are for my daughters 
gigs (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8593837B6756B691) or my 
wife's theatre and I use two years old computers (two of them, one XP, 
One openSUSE), my 250Gb USB drive was only €120 - failed twice and was 
twice changed for a new one (3 years warrant). My 21 years old son 
bough it's one with summer work :-)



I only want to say that no backup strategy is univesal, anybody must
find one that suits his needs. yours or an other :-)


I completely agree. And I never intended mine to be understood to work
universally for anyone. It just does what I want and what I think I need.


this is the key: know what you do and do what is needed :-))

jdd


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[opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Carlos E. R. wrote:
[...]
> 
> External usb hard drives are very convenient, but they are not reliable, 
> unfortunately. They are exposed to handling, for instance, and a HD should 
> not be even moved while spinning.

Agreed. However I never ever experienced a simultaneous failure of
data loss and external harddrive failure, both at the same time.

It is not ideal, it is just cheap and works for me as a home user.

Furthermore, if I fear my usb disks to fail at the very wrong moment, I
can easily albeit more costly, use 2.5inch notebook drives.

Those are much more reliable under rough conditions that an external
harddisk might endure.
Btw. I handle mine with care. ;-)).
> 
> Then, the chipsets used by those boxes are cheap and incomplete, they 
> don't have the necessary functions to use SMART and thus asses the drive 
> health.
That's bad, but if it fails, it is rather unlikely that my internal
harddisk will fail at the exact same point in time.

> 
> It is a very convenient way of adding large storage capacity which you can 
> then move out to a cupboard or safe, but in fact they can and do die on 
> you at the most unexpected moment.

Yes.
Again, would I be willing to invest more in terms of money and work, I
probably would do it differently.
> 

regards
Eberhard

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[opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Eberhard Roloff
jdd wrote:
> Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> 
>> In fact that means that your usb drive will "only" need to accomodate
>> 200GB+ "a little more". Ex 300GB will most likely do for a VERY long
>> time.
> 
> I think you did miss the point.

Yes I did. Sorry for this.

I wonder whether your type of usage, while being extremely impressive to
me, fullfills what the subject "backup for home users" tries to promise.
;-))
> 
> I can dl a cd in 10 minutes and a dvd in four hours. I have a collection
> of 1000+ films. I have each month 4cd and 1 dvd of linux alpha distro
> (and often more)
> 

> all this is filling my drive.
> 
> I have also (right now) 4 hours of dv video (50Gb) and the 3 dvd O made
> from it (30Bg with the associated files I need to keep for editing purpose)
> 
> all this is very important right now but will have nearly no interest in
> some days (only the dvd resulting will have meaning)
> 
> it's impossible to backup all this, I already have problems keeping them
> one month :-)
> 
You might invest into a large raid array and keep multiple generations
of your data there, on a as needed basis, if disk failure or data loss
by operator error really concerns you.


> 
> I only want to say that no backup strategy is univesal, anybody must
> find one that suits his needs. yours or an other :-)
> 
I completely agree. And I never intended mine to be understood to work
universally for anyone. It just does what I want and what I think I need.

regards
Eberhard

> jdd

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[opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Joseph Loo wrote:

> It was mentioned on a podcast "Security Now" 
> http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm
> episode #81

Thanks much for pointing that out. Never heard about securitynow!

Thanks again
Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] Problem with Dual 2 Core T7200

2007-06-02 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 02 June 2007 10:16, Frank Fiene wrote:
> On Samstag, 2. Juni 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > Programmatically, a dual-core CPU is very similar to two
> > single-core CPUs. On recent Linux kernels, even a HyperThreading
> > CPU looks like two separate CPUs at the user level.
>
> Not for forking processes like in a Linux environment, HT is not very
> good on this issue. ;-)

I'm not commenting on the performance characteristics of dual-CPU vs. 
dual-core vs. HT, just the fact that the Linux kernel papers over the 
differences, for the most part, merging them all under the SMP 
(symmetric multiprocessing) rubric.


> Thx.
> Frank


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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread jdd

SOTL wrote:

Hi All

Is there a dd comand that will allow onw to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7GB DVD 
blank disk?


don't fit. Must burn it as an image (special menu in k3b).

dd can be used with UDF file system (but not with this amount of size)

jdd


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Re: [opensuse] K3B 4.3 iso write issue

2007-06-02 Thread jdd

SOTL wrote:
Trying to use K3B to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7 GB disk and I get the error 
message that iso above 4.0 GB is not allowes. 


* some file systems don't allow more thanGb for a file (FAT32)
* do tou write the file "as an image" or as a dvd data file?

jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread jdd

Carlos E. R. wrote:

They are quite large files. Even if you only change the name of a video 
file sized one gigabyte, the incremental backup program will save a full 
copy of that file, for instance. The next day he edits the tittles of an 
scene, and bang, it would save the whole file again.


If the video editing takes, say, a week, he may backup the huge temporary 
files to another internal disk, temporarily, and then save the final 
product to the final media and/or permanent backup. A typical automated 
backup would save useless terabytes of data.


two things: original dv video is si hudge backing it up on usual media 
is impossible (12Gb one hour and I have 6 in work!), the best backup 
there is an other dv tape if the video is important enough.


the video application uses temporary files of the same size of the 
final dvd (4.5 Gb a dvd, 9 Gb for the hole files). I made 4 dvd the 
same week, and need to keep the files as long as I may edit the 
result. 4 x 9 Gb more


of course, no incremental is meaningfull here. If I had money enough I 
would buy a raid 5 terabyte system, but it's not yet cheap enough 
(will come soon, I've seen a 1Tb (2x500Gb) usb drive for €300.


but this is only temporary backup, once the final dvd is done I keep 
only the video_ts folder


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Problem with Dual 2 Core T7200

2007-06-02 Thread Frank Fiene
On Samstag, 2. Juni 2007, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Saturday 02 June 2007 03:50, Frank Fiene wrote:
> > OK, someone from SUSE at the Linuxtag told me that both Cores on my
> > T7200 can run at different frequencies, thats what i've read
> > everywhere too! I have a Thinkpad Z61p with one of these CPUs.
> >
> > cpufre-info says:
> >
> > CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1
>
> Perhaps the person who told you they CPUs could operate at different
> frequencies was mistaken?

Yes, perphaps you're right. I've read the spec pdf from Intel and it 
says both cores have independent MSRs for controlling Speedstep but 
both cores must operate at the same frequency.

I remember something different from some newspaper but anyway.

But this would be fine for power enhancements, right? Or turning off one 
core would also be nice for battery life?

> > OK, what the hell is going on here, i've bought a laptop with an
> > T7200 Dual Core CPU!? Is there another CPU installed?
>
> Programmatically, a dual-core CPU is very similar to two single-core
> CPUs. On recent Linux kernels, even a HyperThreading CPU looks like
> two separate CPUs at the user level.

Not for forking processes like in a Linux environment, HT is not very 
good on this issue. ;-)

Thx.
Frank
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Re: [opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-02 at 05:18 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:

> Have you thought of doing incremental backups? These are backups where only 
> the
> changed files are backedup. In many of the Enterprise setups, they do a full
> backup once a week. Then on a daily basis they do incremental backups. This
> reduce the amount of data loss to a day.
> 
> You might want to consider doing full backups once a month and weekly 
> incremental.

In his case, it is much more efficient to do manual backups, choosing 
exactly what to copy and when.

They are quite large files. Even if you only change the name of a video 
file sized one gigabyte, the incremental backup program will save a full 
copy of that file, for instance. The next day he edits the tittles of an 
scene, and bang, it would save the whole file again.

If the video editing takes, say, a week, he may backup the huge temporary 
files to another internal disk, temporarily, and then save the final 
product to the final media and/or permanent backup. A typical automated 
backup would save useless terabytes of data.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-02 at 05:13 -0700, Joseph Loo wrote:

> I understand Google did a paper on disk drives. They found that SMART was not 
> a
> very good predictor in determining drive health. I think it was a three year
> study on their drive failures at Google.

I know, I read it.

It doesn't predict all failures, but it does signal some of them, and can 
do some diagnostics, including a surface test.

If the usb boxes' chipsets do not even support smart, testing the drives 
becomes more difficult.

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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread SOTL
On Saturday 02 June 2007 09:26, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2007-06-03 03:00, SOTL wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > Is there a dd comand that will allow onw to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7GB
> > DVD blank disk?
>
> Use K3b in KDE or Gnomebaker (?) in Gnome, or if you absolutely must use
> the CLI, growisofs.

k3b is giving an error message that the maximum size one can burn is 4.0 GB. 
The file is 4.3 GB

I noticed some one pointed out the error in time.
Bios time is set correct so issue is not bios.
This system will be changed as soon as iso is burned to DVD so fixing time is 
not relative important.

Thanks all for the help.

sotl
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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing - Solved ?

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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Joseph Loo wrote:
> Lívio Cipriano wrote:
>> On 1 June 2007 23:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
>>> On 1 June 2007 20:48, Sunny wrote:
 What program you print from?
>>> I'm printing from KDE. The 370Kb image was printed from Konqueror.
>>>
 What kind of printer you have?
>>> It's an HP LaserJet 5MP, it's an PostScript 2 printer
>>>
 How is it
 setup?
>>> I just configure CUPS with 2 queues : one as a raw printer, no filtering,
>>> and another as an HP LaserJet 5MP with the manufacture PPD.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Lívio Cipriano
>> I print the SELF TEST of my printer and I notice that has:
>>
>> Installed Personalities:
>>   PCL (94110823)
>>   POSTSCRIPT (95040353)
>>
>> So, I just configured my HP LaserJet 5MP as an PCL Printer, and the 
>> improvements in the printing speed of graphics were immediately. An image of 
>> 370Kb that yesterday took 15-20 min to print, now took 1-2 mins. Any 
>> explanation?
>>
> It looks like your printer does not have enough memory to handle the 
> postscript
> file. The pcl version requires your computer to process the file and generate 
> an
> image of the page, translate it to pcl, then send it to the printer where 
> there
> is little processing.
> 
> In postscript, it sends a postscript file (program), the printer executes the
> program, draws the image, then prints the files. Typically if you have a 
> complex
> image and very little memory, it takes a long time.
> 

Historically Postscript always has been rather inefficient at processing
bitmap images. Generating rather large ASCII representations of the
binary image info. If remember correctly PCL does represent binary as
binary, resulting in much smaller filesizes.
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Re: [opensuse] K3B 4.3 iso write issue

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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BandiPat wrote:
> On Sunday 03 June 2007, SOTL wrote:
>> Trying to use K3B to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7 GB disk and I get
>> the error message that iso above 4.0 GB is not allowes.
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> This is a OpenSuSE 10.2 system.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> SOTL
> 
> 
> 
> Seems like I remember a thread like this before.  It's been sometime 
> ago, but another user was having problems getting what appeared to be a 
> smaller size image burnt to a regular DVD 4.7GB.  I don't remember the 
> exact solution, but seems like it had something to do with some 
> overhead needed by the DVD to add a few things.  Plus, isn't the iso 
> somewhat compressed thus the burnt size always a bit larger?
> 
> Anyway, have you tried turning on "Overburn" in the k3b settings?  That 
> might work for you.
> 
> Lee

I think I responded to a similar query earlier

- From browsing the growisofs source code I came across this .K3B uses
growisofs...

Revision 5.3


- - refuse to burn id session starts to close to or beyond 4GB limit
  (limitation of Linux isofs implementation)


I thought this would indicate a fix (but maybe not).

I would try

growisofs -dvd-compat -Z =

from the CLI

NB K3B is not always completely sane about passing stuff to the
underlying command tools... and the wodim based stuff is slightly
different in operation to the original cdrecord stuff which K3B expects.

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RE: [opensuse] system does not boot

2007-06-02 Thread Amr M. Salah
Dear Carols,

Thanks ver much for your help 
Your idea is working .the server is up now ,
I'll investigate to make sure that all programs are working effectively 


Thanks a lot again for you, and for all those who gave some of their
important time and tried to help me  

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Amr M. Salah

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The Monday 2007-05-28 at 13:31 +0200, Amr M. Salah wrote:

> Thanks Carlos for your fast replay 
> 
> But excuse me I do not understand any thing, I'm sorry to disappoint you ,
> but I'm not a Linux pro

Then I would try the automatic rescue mode of the install dvd. It might 
work. Or the suggestion other people did.


What I suggested was the manual rescue. I can describe the procedure 
briefly:

  Boot from the install dvd, manual rescue mode. You get a text linux 
console as root. Mount manually your normal "/" filesystem in "/mnt" - 
ie, you will have your normal system mounted in "/mnt". You might need to 
mount also the dvd somewhere, too, I don't know for sure right now.

Find the old glibc rpm and install it using:

  rpm --install --force glibcrpm  --root /mnt


You need of course knowledge of how to use a linux text console and 
commands; that is too much for me to explain here. You have some help in 
the SuSE admin book.

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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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SOTL wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> Is there a dd comand that will allow onw to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7GB DVD 
> blank disk?
> 
> Thanks
> SOTL
> 

A 4.3 GB image is the same size as the 4.7GB capacity of the DVD. One is
represented according to computer base 1024 related conventions, the
other to the (arguably) more comprehensible base 1000 conventions.

It is probably best to use

growisofs -dvd-compat -Z =


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Re: [opensuse] Problem with Dual 2 Core T7200

2007-06-02 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 02 June 2007 03:50, Frank Fiene wrote:
> OK, someone from SUSE at the Linuxtag told me that both Cores on my
> T7200 can run at different frequencies, thats what i've read
> everywhere too! I have a Thinkpad Z61p with one of these CPUs.
>
> cpufre-info says:
>
> CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1

Perhaps the person who told you they CPUs could operate at different 
frequencies was mistaken?


> OK, what the hell is going on here, i've bought a laptop with an
> T7200 Dual Core CPU!? Is there another CPU installed?

Programmatically, a dual-core CPU is very similar to two single-core 
CPUs. On recent Linux kernels, even a HyperThreading CPU looks like two 
separate CPUs at the user level.


> But "cat /proc/cpuinfo":
>
> ... [ two virtually identical CPUs ] ...


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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sun, 2007-06-03 at 04:00 -0500, SOTL wrote:

I think today is actually Saturday and the EDT should be -400 not -500.
Could you fix your clock please>

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Re: [opensuse] Running process list

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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Cristea Bogdan wrote:
> Is there a way to visualise all running processes?
> In my case, I launch an application with nohup command in a terminal window, 
> but  if the terminal is closed and then reopened again I cannot see the 
> process previously launched with nohup.
> 

Well top does it textually and dynamically from the CLI. (man top for
details).
ps will take static snapshot of the running processes from CLI (man ps
for details)


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Re: [opensuse] Finally Frustrated enough about Mouse Clicks...

2007-06-02 Thread Michael Letourneau
Sunny wrote:
> On 6/1/07, Michael Letourneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Well I did not think it was the mouse, as when I used to use Windows, I
>> would never experience the issue, even after a couple days uptime.
>> Granted I have not been in Windows in ages, so I suppose that could
>> be it...
>>
>> Thanks...
>>
>> Michael
>
> Why don't you try some live distro like knoppix, then you will know if
> this is opensuse problem or something else.
>
> You may try as well some older version of knoppix, with older xord (or
> even X11) to test.
>

Thats an absolutely excellent idea.  I will give that a shot!  Thanks I
had not thought of that, and I will still be able to access my files.

Michael
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Re: [opensuse] K3B 4.3 iso write issue

2007-06-02 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 03 June 2007, SOTL wrote:
> Trying to use K3B to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7 GB disk and I get
> the error message that iso above 4.0 GB is not allowes.
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> This is a OpenSuSE 10.2 system.
>
> Thanks
>
> SOTL



Seems like I remember a thread like this before.  It's been sometime 
ago, but another user was having problems getting what appeared to be a 
smaller size image burnt to a regular DVD 4.7GB.  I don't remember the 
exact solution, but seems like it had something to do with some 
overhead needed by the DVD to add a few things.  Plus, isn't the iso 
somewhat compressed thus the burnt size always a bit larger?

Anyway, have you tried turning on "Overburn" in the k3b settings?  That 
might work for you.

Lee
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Re: SATA RAID with Promise TX4 (Was: [opensuse] Recommendation for sata card?)

2007-06-02 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-02 05:41, HG wrote:
> 
> thought that what ever it is, it's going to be more than (P)ATA and as
> Bonnie++ showed that the RAID was in the same ballpark as a PATA drive
> would be, I didn't think that PCI bus would be the limiting factor.

You could check the mobo specs online. That's a SATA300 card, but it's
running at or near ATA133 speeds. I suspect, if you do check, you'll
find the PCI bus speed is similarly 133 :-)

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Re: [opensuse] Running process list

2007-06-02 Thread BandiPat
On Saturday 02 June 2007, Cristea Bogdan wrote:
> Is there a way to visualise all running processes?
> In my case, I launch an application with nohup command in a terminal
> window, but  if the terminal is closed and then reopened again I
> cannot see the process previously launched with nohup.
>
> --
> Cristea Bogdan
> Software Engineer
> ITC Networks



Not sure what you are looking for here, but there are some alternatives.  
If I understand you correctly, you just want to see this process as 
well as others to verify it's still running?

Try:  top (in a shell) or htop (improved version of top) or if you are 
running KDE or not, but have it installed, try ctrl-esc keys to start 
ksysguard. 

All are very good and should provide you what you want.

Lee
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Re: [opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread Darryl Gregorash
On 2007-06-03 03:00, SOTL wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Is there a dd comand that will allow onw to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7GB DVD 
> blank disk?
>
>   
Use K3b in KDE or Gnomebaker (?) in Gnome, or if you absolutely must use
the CLI, growisofs.

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[opensuse] Running process list

2007-06-02 Thread Cristea Bogdan
Is there a way to visualise all running processes?
In my case, I launch an application with nohup command in a terminal window, 
but  if the terminal is closed and then reopened again I cannot see the 
process previously launched with nohup.

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Re: [opensuse] KWeather Font

2007-06-02 Thread Jim Flanagan
Kai Ponte wrote:
> I would like to change the font on KWeather. However, it doesn't
> appear to be easy. I did google and found at least this recent post...
>
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=446241
>
> ..which seems to indicate I can't.
>
> I don't appreciate that answer. Too limiting.  Too much like wintendo.
>
> Any ideas on how I can do it? I want the font to be white. I'm
> changing my KDE background to be black with a transparent kicker. I
> want all fonts to be white. So far, I've changed the desktop icons and
> the time/date.  Now I need kweather and the kicker icons.
>
> Here's an example of what it should look like - except for the debian
> thingy. I don't know Debbie or Ian, so don't want to use that.
>
> http://i9.tinypic.com/68jhszn.png
>
> I also really like her menu, which is a far-cry more cool than mine...
>
> http://www.perfectreign.com/stuff/2007/20070601_suse_menu.jpg
>
>   
I think you set the font in KDE>Control Center. Not sure which setting
does it for KWeather, but it reads the system settings.

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[opensuse] K3B 4.3 iso write issue

2007-06-02 Thread SOTL
Trying to use K3B to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7 GB disk and I get the error 
message that iso above 4.0 GB is not allowes. 
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
This is a OpenSuSE 10.2 system.

Thanks 

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[opensuse] DVD iso

2007-06-02 Thread SOTL
Hi All

Is there a dd comand that will allow onw to write a 4.3 GB iso to a 4.7GB DVD 
blank disk?

Thanks
SOTL

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Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 and Reply to List

2007-06-02 Thread Joe Morris (NTM)
Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Joe Morris (NTM) schrieb:
>   
>> Is anyone else using Thunderbird 2.0 from the build service and the Reply
>> to List extension?  It worked on the beta and rc builds, but not on the
>> final. 
>> 
>
> I've noticed it and looked into it a bit. The core changes which are
> needed in Thunderbird are still there and should work (the clobber pref
> still works correctly). My guess is that the extension is not compatible
> anymore with final TB 2.0. I wanted to contact the initial extension
> author but got distracted again.
>
> Wolfgang
>   
Thanks much for the confirmation (and your packages ;-) ).  I would
agree with your guess.  When I installed TB 2.0 on Windows at the
office, it needed to update its Enigmail.  Yours already have the right
version, so it should work.  I will try to contact the author as well
and see if he can do something.  Thanks again.

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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing - Solved ?

2007-06-02 Thread Joseph Loo
Lívio Cipriano wrote:
> On 1 June 2007 23:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
>> On 1 June 2007 20:48, Sunny wrote:
>>> What program you print from?
>> I'm printing from KDE. The 370Kb image was printed from Konqueror.
>>
>>> What kind of printer you have?
>> It's an HP LaserJet 5MP, it's an PostScript 2 printer
>>
>>> How is it
>>> setup?
>> I just configure CUPS with 2 queues : one as a raw printer, no filtering,
>> and another as an HP LaserJet 5MP with the manufacture PPD.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Lívio Cipriano
> 
> I print the SELF TEST of my printer and I notice that has:
> 
> Installed Personalities:
>   PCL (94110823)
>   POSTSCRIPT (95040353)
> 
> So, I just configured my HP LaserJet 5MP as an PCL Printer, and the 
> improvements in the printing speed of graphics were immediately. An image of 
> 370Kb that yesterday took 15-20 min to print, now took 1-2 mins. Any 
> explanation?
> 
It looks like your printer does not have enough memory to handle the postscript
file. The pcl version requires your computer to process the file and generate an
image of the page, translate it to pcl, then send it to the printer where there
is little processing.

In postscript, it sends a postscript file (program), the printer executes the
program, draws the image, then prints the files. Typically if you have a complex
image and very little memory, it takes a long time.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Joseph Loo
jdd wrote:
> Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> 
>> In fact that means that your usb drive will "only" need to accomodate
>> 200GB+ "a little more". Ex 300GB will most likely do for a VERY long
>> time.
> 
> I think you did miss the point.
> 
> I can dl a cd in 10 minutes and a dvd in four hours. I have a collection
> of 1000+ films. I have each month 4cd and 1 dvd of linux alpha distro
> (and often more)
> 
> all this is filling my drive.
> 
> I have also (right now) 4 hours of dv video (50Gb) and the 3 dvd O made
> from it (30Bg with the associated files I need to keep for editing purpose)
> 
> all this is very important right now but will have nearly no interest in
> some days (only the dvd resulting will have meaning)
> 
> it's impossible to backup all this, I already have problems keeping them
> one month :-)
> 
> much data have an importance for a very small time.
> 
> there is no other solution than selecting the part to backup manually...
> 
> I know of database systems with several gigabytes of data, with small
> changes (think at wikipedia)
> 
> I only want to say that no backup strategy is univesal, anybody must
> find one that suits his needs. yours or an other :-)
> 
> jdd

Have you thought of doing incremental backups? These are backups where only the
changed files are backedup. In many of the Enterprise setups, they do a full
backup once a week. Then on a daily basis they do incremental backups. This
reduce the amount of data loss to a day.

You might want to consider doing full backups once a month and weekly 
incremental.
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Re: [opensuse] CD/DVD writer application suggestion?

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan


I use K3B.





Seems like K3B is a popular choice. Been to there site and I am happy
that I asked for help. Thank you all for the help.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Joseph Loo
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> The Saturday 2007-06-02 at 12:04 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> 
>> However, for purposes of simplicity, lets assume that your son has data
>> with a volume of 200GB (or less), that needs to be backed up regularly.
> 
>>> If I had to backup all and every file on his computer, I should have 100
>>> Tb of usb drives...
>> You might have ignored the essence of rsnapshot and similar solutions.
>> The beauty of these solutions is that backups are done by using symlinks.
> 
>> Lets see how this basically works and what you get as a  result:
> 
>> ===This is how it works:=
>> (assuming that you are doing a simple daily backup. In reality, you most
>> probably will want to do weekly and monthly backups, as well) :
> 
>> day1: 200GB are backed up to the usb drive
> 
> 
> External usb hard drives are very convenient, but they are not reliable, 
> unfortunately. They are exposed to handling, for instance, and a HD should 
> not be even moved while spinning.
> 
> Then, the chipsets used by those boxes are cheap and incomplete, they 
> don't have the necessary functions to use SMART and thus asses the drive 
> health.
> 
> It is a very convenient way of adding large storage capacity which you can 
> then move out to a cupboard or safe, but in fact they can and do die on 
> you at the most unexpected moment.
> 
I understand Google did a paper on disk drives. They found that SMART was not a
very good predictor in determining drive health. I think it was a three year
study on their drive failures at Google.

It was mentioned on a podcast "Security Now" http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm
episode #81
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Re: [opensuse] CD/DVD writer application suggestion?

2007-06-02 Thread James Knott
Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a new user coming from Windows platform. Mostly used Nero for all
> my CD/DVD writing needs. I will welcome suggestions regarding
> equivalent software for Linux (SuSE Packages) platform.
>
> Also would like to add that for me GUI is as important as the
> functionality.

I use K3B.


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Re: [opensuse] tightvnc version

2007-06-02 Thread Joseph Loo
M Harris wrote:
> On Friday 01 June 2007 22:39, Joseph Loo wrote:
>>  but under 10.2 I am using 1.2.9
>   Thanks.  I have run into a little small problem with the numeric keypad 
> (with 
> numlock on) and some apps like KCalc.  1.2.9 shipped with openSUSE 10.0.  The 
> VNC people have release 1.3.9 (stable) ready--- I downloaded it tonight but 
> have not installed it as yet.  
> 
>   I am noticing a little small problem with KCalc and the numeric 
> keypad... 
> would you try something for me on your 10.2 and let me know what happens 
> please ?
> 
>   vncviewer -via hostname hostname:1   [ what a great tip, thanks ]
> 
>   Then on your remote desk start KCalc from the suse menu.
> 
>   Then press the numlock on...   and then enter an  8 key  from the 
> keypad... 
> and tell me... does it enter an 8,  or does it act like the  X  
> [multiplication] key?
> 
>   I did some debugging on my system... with xev... but I spare you the 
> details 
> pending your feedback...  but I don't think they are handling numlock 
> correctly.  I am wanting to know whether its been fixed in the new release or 
> if I'm missing something here... thanks again.
> 
> 

I get a multiplication when doing it. I do not think it is tightvnc that is
doing it because, if you open a standard xterm, it comes out as 8.
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Re: SATA RAID with Promise TX4 (Was: [opensuse] Recommendation for sata card?)

2007-06-02 Thread HG

Hi!

On 6/2/07, Darryl Gregorash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2007-06-01 23:23, HG wrote:
> 
>
> So, the performance isn't very good. But this is a old computer (PIII
> 733, with 512Mb), so maybe the bottleneck is somewhere else. Or what
> do you think?
Well, it is a PCI card. What's the speed of the PCI bus? That's going to
be the limiting factor.


True. Good guestion... I have no idea of the PCI bus speed. I actually
thought that what ever it is, it's going to be more than (P)ATA and as
Bonnie++ showed that the RAID was in the same ballpark as a PATA drive
would be, I didn't think that PCI bus would be the limiting factor.
But it must be - PIII 733MHz is not slowing the RAID parity
calculations down, drives are fast, card is fast... that leaves the
PCI bus I guess.

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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing - Solved ?

2007-06-02 Thread Kenneth Schneider
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 11:41 +0100, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
> On 1 June 2007 23:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:

> I print the SELF TEST of my printer and I notice that has:
> 
> Installed Personalities:
>   PCL (94110823)
>   POSTSCRIPT (95040353)
> 
> So, I just configured my HP LaserJet 5MP as an PCL Printer, and the 
> improvements in the printing speed of graphics were immediately. An image of 
> 370Kb that yesterday took 15-20 min to print, now took 1-2 mins. Any 
> explanation?
> 

PCL is closer to the natural language of the printer whereas postscript
has to go through an interpreter. Can you speak faster using your
natural language or having to go through an interpreter first?

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Re: [opensuse] Re: copying CD--more

2007-06-02 Thread jdd

Eberhard Roloff wrote:


One needs to be Master, the other needs to be Slave.


yes


If there is only one, you should set it to Master.


no

not usually (hardware dependant)

usually Linux don't bother. but Windows do.

I had, long time ago a cdrom on /dev/hda (and dd on /dev/hdb), very 
good fort any Linux, but XP could not keep seeing the cd


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread jdd

Eberhard Roloff wrote:


In fact that means that your usb drive will "only" need to accomodate
200GB+ "a little more". Ex 300GB will most likely do for a VERY long time.


I think you did miss the point.

I can dl a cd in 10 minutes and a dvd in four hours. I have a 
collection of 1000+ films. I have each month 4cd and 1 dvd of linux 
alpha distro (and often more)


all this is filling my drive.

I have also (right now) 4 hours of dv video (50Gb) and the 3 dvd O 
made from it (30Bg with the associated files I need to keep for 
editing purpose)


all this is very important right now but will have nearly no interest 
in some days (only the dvd resulting will have meaning)


it's impossible to backup all this, I already have problems keeping 
them one month :-)


much data have an importance for a very small time.

there is no other solution than selecting the part to backup manually...

I know of database systems with several gigabytes of data, with small 
changes (think at wikipedia)


I only want to say that no backup strategy is univesal, anybody must 
find one that suits his needs. yours or an other :-)


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[opensuse] Problem with Dual 2 Core T7200

2007-06-02 Thread Frank Fiene
OK, someone from SUSE at the Linuxtag told me that both Cores on my 
T7200 can run at different frequencies, thats what i've read everywhere 
too! I have a Thinkpad Z61p with one of these CPUs.

cpufre-info says:

CPUs which need to switch frequency at the same time: 0 1

OK, what the hell is going on here, i've bought a laptop with an T7200 
Dual Core CPU!? Is there another CPU installed?


But "cat /proc/cpuinfo":

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall nx lm
constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips: 3995.88
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200  @ 2.00GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 1000.000
cache size  : 4096 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge 
mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm syscall nx lm
constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips: 3990.12
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:
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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing - Solved ?

2007-06-02 Thread Lívio Cipriano
On 1 June 2007 23:12, Lívio Cipriano wrote:
> On 1 June 2007 20:48, Sunny wrote:
> > What program you print from?
>
> I'm printing from KDE. The 370Kb image was printed from Konqueror.
>
> > What kind of printer you have?
>
> It's an HP LaserJet 5MP, it's an PostScript 2 printer
>
> > How is it
> > setup?
>
> I just configure CUPS with 2 queues : one as a raw printer, no filtering,
> and another as an HP LaserJet 5MP with the manufacture PPD.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Lívio Cipriano

I print the SELF TEST of my printer and I notice that has:

Installed Personalities:
  PCL (94110823)
  POSTSCRIPT (95040353)

So, I just configured my HP LaserJet 5MP as an PCL Printer, and the 
improvements in the printing speed of graphics were immediately. An image of 
370Kb that yesterday took 15-20 min to print, now took 1-2 mins. Any 
explanation?

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[opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

Hi All,

Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.

1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?

2. If yes, should I expect a option to choose KDE 3 / KDE 4 at my login?

3. I am assuming that I will have to get the KDE packages for specific
to 4. which is OK with me. But how likely it is to break my existing
my total system?

(I can't afford to break my current working desktop so please advise
if the whole idea is not very wise. I am interested as I am interested
to contribute to development.)

Thanks,

Soyuz
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Re: [opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-02 at 12:04 +0200, Eberhard Roloff wrote:

> However, for purposes of simplicity, lets assume that your son has data
> with a volume of 200GB (or less), that needs to be backed up regularly.
> 
> > If I had to backup all and every file on his computer, I should have 100
> > Tb of usb drives...
> You might have ignored the essence of rsnapshot and similar solutions.
> The beauty of these solutions is that backups are done by using symlinks.
> 
> Lets see how this basically works and what you get as a  result:
> 
> ===This is how it works:=
> (assuming that you are doing a simple daily backup. In reality, you most
> probably will want to do weekly and monthly backups, as well) :
> 
> day1: 200GB are backed up to the usb drive


External usb hard drives are very convenient, but they are not reliable, 
unfortunately. They are exposed to handling, for instance, and a HD should 
not be even moved while spinning.

Then, the chipsets used by those boxes are cheap and incomplete, they 
don't have the necessary functions to use SMART and thus asses the drive 
health.

It is a very convenient way of adding large storage capacity which you can 
then move out to a cupboard or safe, but in fact they can and do die on 
you at the most unexpected moment.

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[opensuse] Re: copying CD--more

2007-06-02 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Doug McGarrett wrote:
> I suppose I broke the thread, but I have no choice--the Linux
> machine is apart, and I have to write in Windows.
> 
> I put the new writer drive in the machine, but I probably don't
> have the master/slave thing set right.  The original, read-only
> drive has S L A available, and is jumper-set on A.
So it was set to be m_A_ster.

> 
> The new writable drive has S L A, and also says
> S is cable select, L is slave, and A is master.
> It is jumper-set on L.
So this is now set to s_L_ave. That will probably not work.

On IDE, you will have max. two devices per channel.
One needs to be Master, the other needs to be Slave.
If there is only one, you should set it to Master.

You theoretically can escape this hassle by using cableSelect, but I do
not have good experinces with this and prefer to decide on my very own,
which device will be master and which will be slave.

regards
Eberhard



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[opensuse] Tomcat and Java Environment Variables

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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All,

Having finally got tomcat operational I have found that although the
Tomcat script is supposed to be exporting CATALINA_HOME, etc, etc These
variables seem not be set when working from the CLI. In fact, the java
environment seems to be that defined by /etc/profiles.d/alljava.sh.

Funambol requires J2EE_HOME to be set (at least for installation
purposes) and to my mind it would be useful to use CATALINA_HOME to set
this, Has anyone else installed tomcat, and are they experiencing a
similar issue with 10.2.



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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing

2007-06-02 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-06-02 at 10:52 +0100, Lívio Cipriano wrote:

> On 2 June 2007 04:47, Kenneth Schneider wrote:

> > I have the same problem with my HP laser but only on large graphic 
> > files.
> 
> I guess you are, partial, right. My printer has only 3Mb.
> 
> But in Windows the pictures are printed more quickly, so, I guess, must exist 
> a "tune" to improve the speed in Linux.

Depending on the program or the filter, you can tune for low memory 
printer.

Point your browser to ,  select printers, then on 
you printer, go to "set printer options", and look around. If it doesn't 
accept your password, you need to add one using "lppasswd -g sys -a "

Also, what type of cable/connector you use affects. If it is a classic 
parallel cable, you gain speed giving an IRQ to the interface, which by 
default it hasn't in Linux. For instance, in my "/etc/modprobe.conf.local" 
I have:

  options parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7

Obviously, you have to select the right parameters. If it uses the irq, 
you will see something like this in the file "/var/log/boot.msg" after 
reboot:

 <6>parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP]
 <6>lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).




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[opensuse] Re: backup for home users

2007-06-02 Thread Eberhard Roloff
Hi Jdd,

jdd wrote:
> Eberhard Roloff wrote:
> 
>> rsnapshot, doing backups to usb-drive(s)? ;-)
> 
> backup forn home user can only be acheived on a one by one thinking.
> 
> let me give an example:
> 
> my son spend much time downloading films and games from the net (I know
> it's not fair, but are your sure your son don't?)

Currently he is five years old, but that will change ;-)))

 - it's just an example
> 
> He got a 200Gb internal drive.
> 
ok!
If that is the only drive he has, I doubt that all 200GB are "data" in
the sense of "valuable data that you definitely do not want to loose".

However, for purposes of simplicity, lets assume that your son has data
with a volume of 200GB (or less), that needs to be backed up regularly.

> If I had to backup all and every file on his computer, I should have 100
> Tb of usb drives...
You might have ignored the essence of rsnapshot and similar solutions.
The beauty of these solutions is that backups are done by using symlinks.

Lets see how this basically works and what you get as a  result:

===This is how it works:=
(assuming that you are doing a simple daily backup. In reality, you most
probably will want to do weekly and monthly backups, as well) :

day1: 200GB are backed up to the usb drive
day2: just the difference from day2 to day1 is backed up to the usbdrive
day3: just the difference from day3 to day2 is backed up to the usbdrive
day4: just the difference, you guess it.
...

In fact that means that your usb drive will "only" need to accomodate
200GB+ "a little more". Ex 300GB will most likely do for a VERY long time.

Now comes the magic!

This is how it looks like on your usb-drive with Konqueror=
root of usbdrive
-folder "day1", including all the data from day1
-folder "day2", including all the data that you had (saved) on day  2
-folder "day3", including, all the data that you had (saved) on day 3
-folder "day4", you guess it
...

As a result,
--you will have a full week of daily backups that you can restore from,
either on a per file basis or as a whole.
--But you only need to accomodate your data size plus "slightly more",
because the "full backup any day" is done by using symlinks, so you
profit from the fact, that a very lare percentage of your data will most
likely be identical from a given day to the next.

Now compare this to a more conventional backup strategy of doing a real
"full backup any day", where you need to accomodate space that you will
easily and frustratingly multiply on your own.
And compare to the convential method of doing a full backup, followed by
"differential" backups. This will save you space but you will stop to
like it in the case a restore will be needed. ;-))

> 
> to have consistent backup, one must look at his own kind of work.

Definitely!
> 
> rigth now I work mostly by browser on a web site not of my own. Hope
> simply the owner makes a backup. On an other site I'm the owner, but my
> work is on pmwiki, very small flat files app. The hole web site is under
> 100Mo and the usefull pmwiki less than 10Mb, so tar file copied on ma
> server account and on my persobnal computer. very soon, I will have a
> rsync system, no need of diff...

That's ok, as long as it is working for you. Btw. rsnapshot is in fact
rsync, with the added benefit that you do not need to care on your own
for multiple generations of your rsynced data.
> 
> I try to keep my data folders under 4Gb large and write them to dvd
> frequently
> 
> all the other data is saved when created.
> 
> and my personal data (photos...) are duplicated on web servers, free
> from fire or water.

That's much better since a local backup solution will hardly be
protected against fire, water or theft

I never intended to indicate that rsnapshot (and other solutions like
this) are the cure for any given backup problem. They are not! And there
is much more to a professional backup strategy than an usb-disk ;-

However I use it and have found it beneficial for my given problem that
I wanted to have a cheap, quick, automated backup at home,  that saves
space and executes my backups locally to a locally attached usb-disk.

Kind regards

Eberhard

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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing

2007-06-02 Thread Lívio Cipriano
On 1 June 2007 23:42, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Then try printing from another app, for instance, OpenOffice, the same
> image.

That's true. OO seams to print images quicker.

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Re: [opensuse] Speed up images printing

2007-06-02 Thread Lívio Cipriano
On 2 June 2007 04:47, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> I have
> the same problem with my HP laser but only on large graphic files.

I guess you are, partial, right. My printer has only 3Mb.

But in Windows the pictures are printed more quickly, so, I guess, must exist 
a "tune" to improve the speed in Linux.

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Re: [opensuse] copying CD--more

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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S Glasoe wrote:
> On Friday June 1 2007 3:12:05 pm jdd wrote:
>> Doug McGarrett wrote:
>>> The new writable drive has S L A, and also says
>>> S is cable select, L is slave, and A is master.
>>> It is jumper-set on L.
>> I think you misread the drive. It should read:
>>
>> CSM
>> SLA
>>
>> but you must read vertically:
>>
>> CS (cable select, avoid it)
>> SL slave
>> MA master
>>
> 
> I have found that Cable Select (CS) vs. Master (MA)/Slave(SL) is very IDE 
> controller and/or system BIOS dependent. Some systems won't work w/o all 
> devices set CS. Others won't work w/o all devices set as MA/SL. Sometimes 
> they work either way but performance obviously favors one over the other. 
> Only way to know is to start from factory settings and 'ass-u-me' they may 
> have known what they were doing... If all esle fails, try the opposite. 
> Salvalged many a broken system/device from almost every brand-name 
> manufacturer this way as well as white-box systems.

I agree ... further complication comes with devices rated with different
data transfer speeds/settings on same cable... bit of a lottery
really... tend to prefer to put 1 device <-> 1 IDE slot to avoid the
hassle... but unfortunately one often has no choice but put to use full
capability :-(
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Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 and Reply to List

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> G T Smith wrote:



>>
>> Are we talking about the SuSE variant which includes some relevant
>> patches, or the Mozilla version which may not?
> 
> We are talking about the openSUSE variant. But your MUA identifier talks
> about TB 1.5.0.x which is no problem. It doesn't work with the extension
> on TB 2.0.0.0.
> 
> Wolfgang

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Re: [opensuse] Assembly Language program

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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azeem ahmad wrote:
> hi list
> i am about to make a bootable floppy for test
> but i am being unable to get it done
> please review the code below and tell me if there is any problem with it
> --
> 
> .code16 #assembler directive to start 16-bit real mode for execution
> .text /*assembler directive to tell the start of 'read-only'
> code segment*/
> .org 0x00 /*assembler directive to set the origon to sector 0
> needed to copy the program to the very first sector
> of the floppy disk*/
> 
> .global _start /*assembler directive to export the start section to
> all other programs, i.e. to make it visible to programs
> like linker or other user programs*/
> 
> _start: #label of the start routine
> mov 0x07C0, %ax /*move immidiate operand 07C0 to the
> accumulator register ax, so that it can be
> transfered to data segment register*/
> mov %ax, %ds /*move contents of register ax to register ds*/
> call _boot #call the boot section
> ret #return the control to the caller routine
> 
> _boot: #label of the boot section
> mov $msg, %si /*move the address of the character string
> constant 'msg' to the source index register*/
> call _disp #call subroutine disp
> ret #return the control to the caller routine
> 
> _disp: #label of the disp routine
> cld /*clear direction flag, to permit string
> instructions to increment index registers
> by their own*/
> lodsb /*load the string pointed by ds:si in a
> byte by byte manner into the accumulator*/
> or %al, %al /*check if the entire string has been loaded
> byte-wise by oring al to al, if the result is
> zero, it shows there are no more byte to load*/
> jz ret #jump if al zero to return
> mov $0xE, %ah /*else put code for 'write a character on the
> screen and move forward' into the ah*/
> mov $7, %bh /*enable normal attribute for all the blank
> lines on the screen*/
> int $0x10 /*call interupt 0x10, which is responsible
> for the video display, it will take codes
> from ah and bh*/
> jmp _disp
> 
> msg: #label of the string definition
> .ascii "My Boot System" #definition of the string
> 
> .org 510 #set origon to 510
> .word 0xAA55 #
> --
> 
> 
> saved the file with the name myos.s
> then
> 
> #as myos.s -o myos.o
> #objcopy -O binary myos.o BOOT
> #dd if=./BOOT of=/dev/fd0 bs=512 count=1
> -
> 
> the system tries to boot from the floppy and it boots (as it doesnt give
> an error or it doesnt go to the next boot device. but it doesnt display
> the string that i had to show from the string
> 
> please check it and tell me about any possible errors in the code
> 
> Regards
> Azeem
> 
> _
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a) Having a little difficulty reading the code...
b) You might get more help with the suse-programming list
c) I think you are assuming the string is null terminated. I am
unfamilier with this assembler but it might be worthwhile explicitly
putting a null at the end of the string.



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Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 and Reply to List

2007-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Hi,

G T Smith wrote:
>> Joe Morris (NTM) schrieb:
>>> I've been waiting for an update for a few weeks, but nothing yet (I
>>> didn't report anything because I thought it would be obvious).  Is
>>> anyone else using Thunderbird 2.0 from the build service and the Reply
>>> to List extension?  It worked on the beta and rc builds, but not on the
>>> final.  Usually it is some Enigmail problem, and usually it is fixed
>>> within a few days, but not this time.  Is it working for anyone?  It was
>>> a very nice feature for mailing lists.  Just to make sure it is a
>>> problem with the package and not just a local problem.
>> I've noticed it and looked into it a bit. The core changes which are
>> needed in Thunderbird are still there and should work (the clobber pref
>> still works correctly). My guess is that the extension is not compatible
>> anymore with final TB 2.0. I wanted to contact the initial extension
>> author but got distracted again.
> 
> Its working for me, just used it for this mail...
> 
> Are we talking about the SuSE variant which includes some relevant
> patches, or the Mozilla version which may not?

We are talking about the openSUSE variant. But your MUA identifier talks
about TB 1.5.0.x which is no problem. It doesn't work with the extension
on TB 2.0.0.0.

Wolfgang
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[opensuse] How to Block Public Proxies

2007-06-02 Thread Andrei Verovski (aka MacGuru)
Hi !

We have Squid installed as transparent proxy, and it blocks certain web sites. 
However, I we have seen some users use public proxies like ninjaproxy in 
order to visit these sites.

Is there any way to block public proxies along with those annoying sites?

Thanks in advance for any suggestion(s)


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Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 and Reply to List

2007-06-02 Thread G T Smith
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Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Joe Morris (NTM) schrieb:
>> I've been waiting for an update for a few weeks, but nothing yet (I
>> didn't report anything because I thought it would be obvious).  Is
>> anyone else using Thunderbird 2.0 from the build service and the Reply
>> to List extension?  It worked on the beta and rc builds, but not on the
>> final.  Usually it is some Enigmail problem, and usually it is fixed
>> within a few days, but not this time.  Is it working for anyone?  It was
>> a very nice feature for mailing lists.  Just to make sure it is a
>> problem with the package and not just a local problem.
> 
> I've noticed it and looked into it a bit. The core changes which are
> needed in Thunderbird are still there and should work (the clobber pref
> still works correctly). My guess is that the extension is not compatible
> anymore with final TB 2.0. I wanted to contact the initial extension
> author but got distracted again.
> 
> Wolfgang

Its working for me, just used it for this mail...

Are we talking about the SuSE variant which includes some relevant
patches, or the Mozilla version which may not?


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Re: [opensuse] CD/DVD writer application suggestion?

2007-06-02 Thread Guillaume R.
* Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-06-02 16:51:12]:

> Hi,
> 
> I am a new user coming from Windows platform. Mostly used Nero for all
> my CD/DVD writing needs. I will welcome suggestions regarding
> equivalent software for Linux (SuSE Packages) platform.
> 
> Also would like to add that for me GUI is as important as the functionality.
So, use K3B. Great app and great GUI.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Soyuz
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Re: [opensuse] Best way to copy mail (kmail)

2007-06-02 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 19:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > That's right, just copy the whole $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kmail
> > directory .  To copy your settings and filters, take
> > $HOME/.kde/share/config/kmailrc too.
> It will drive you nuts if you decide to change  kmail's filter setup ,
> for instance.. because you will have to re-do it every time you open
> the thing.  Colour me really red faced, for forgetting that one on more
> than one occasion and being really annoyed that I couldn't
> make "bogofilter" or "spamassassin" behave as I expected them to. ;^)

Hi,
I've been doing that procedure when upgrading from different version of Linux 
to another, bringing my kmail's email (From Mandrake, Fedora, and now to 
Suse).

The email can be read, but the filters are not. So I have to re-create all the 
filters all along again. Is there any way we can bring the filter too?
Thank you,
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Re: [opensuse] Thunderbird 2.0 and Reply to List

2007-06-02 Thread Wolfgang Rosenauer
Hi,

Joe Morris (NTM) schrieb:
> I've been waiting for an update for a few weeks, but nothing yet (I
> didn't report anything because I thought it would be obvious).  Is
> anyone else using Thunderbird 2.0 from the build service and the Reply
> to List extension?  It worked on the beta and rc builds, but not on the
> final.  Usually it is some Enigmail problem, and usually it is fixed
> within a few days, but not this time.  Is it working for anyone?  It was
> a very nice feature for mailing lists.  Just to make sure it is a
> problem with the package and not just a local problem.

I've noticed it and looked into it a bit. The core changes which are
needed in Thunderbird are still there and should work (the clobber pref
still works correctly). My guess is that the extension is not compatible
anymore with final TB 2.0. I wanted to contact the initial extension
author but got distracted again.

Wolfgang
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