Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 38
On 9/20/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! You may have noticed I'm pretty late, which is already a status update: I'm heavily busy :) * We mastered RC1 late tuesday with just one ship blocker left * After internal testing we're up again to 7 blockers (+ 54 critical) It's great to hear about RC1, but if we have _that_ big number of important bugs, maybe we should make another RC, -- RC2 before Final ? -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 38
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9/20/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! You may have noticed I'm pretty late, which is already a status update: I'm heavily busy :) * We mastered RC1 late tuesday with just one ship blocker left * After internal testing we're up again to 7 blockers (+ 54 critical) It's great to hear about RC1, but if we have _that_ big number of important bugs, maybe we should make another RC, -- RC2 before Final ? Internally we make as much RCs as needed - but putting them out on the mirrors in the short time is more hassle than help, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpjZ9ocVnPrm.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Renaming OpenOffice in 10.3?
As you may know, OpenOffice.org 2.3 RC3 was released as stable version. In openSUSE 10.3 RC1 we still use RC3 name. What about updating OpenOffice.org to version stable (even if it's only about the name)? In this way ppl won't think Oh no, I installed stable openSUSE 10.3 with not stable OO.org!!! :-) -- Rafał Miłecki
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 38
Am Donnerstag 20 September 2007 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 9/20/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! You may have noticed I'm pretty late, which is already a status update: I'm heavily busy :) * We mastered RC1 late tuesday with just one ship blocker left * After internal testing we're up again to 7 blockers (+ 54 critical) It's great to hear about RC1, but if we have _that_ big number of important bugs, maybe we should make another RC, -- RC2 before Final ? Internally we make as much RCs as needed - but putting them out on the mirrors in the short time is more hassle than help, The factory tree is synced out as usual and I'm thinking about doing a live CD for every RC, so people can test the new kernel at least. Most bugs left are in yast modules related to distribution updates and I don't think people will do that more often. Greetings, Stephan -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] freeze on ICH7 Quad CORE 2 x86_64
I just wanted to set up a new System with ASUS P5W DH, 3 HD on ICH7. Accesssing the disk e.g. by # dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/null will freeze the system. I tried a lot of bios settings. Booted resue system with save settings. Nothing helped I386 install is no problem. I see all disks, 4 CPU an 8GB RAM. -- Joachim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] codecs in 10.3?
Hello, Just finished installing RC1 on PPC. I remembered to see something like 'opensuse-codecs-installer' in changelog, so tried to check, if it means proper mp3 support in 10.3. First experience: I installed GNOME for a test. First tried banshee, did not start. Then totem, but the same. Starting them from the command line shows an ugly loud crash for both applications. Second: installed KDE, as I usually do. Opened the mp3 file with kaffeine. First I got a dialog box, if I want to install a suitable codec. When answering 'yes', I got two pages opened, one for mp3 and a second one for xvid. Both of them explained that I wanted to open an unsupported media file, but nothing more. Question: what is the status of codec support? Do I see useless pages, because no content is yet there, or because PPC is not supported? (I have yet to install on x86) Bye, CzP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] codecs in 10.3?
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 14:51 +0200, Peter Czanik wrote: Hello, Just finished installing RC1 on PPC. I remembered to see something like 'opensuse-codecs-installer' in changelog, so tried to check, if it means proper mp3 support in 10.3. First experience: I installed GNOME for a test. First tried banshee, did not start. Then totem, but the same. Starting them from the command line shows an ugly loud crash for both applications. Both start perfectly fine here. We have no bug reports about them crashing on start up. Please file with a trace if you can replicate them. Second: installed KDE, as I usually do. Opened the mp3 file with kaffeine. First I got a dialog box, if I want to install a suitable codec. When answering 'yes', I got two pages opened, one for mp3 and a second one for xvid. Both of them explained that I wanted to open an unsupported media file, but nothing more. Question: what is the status of codec support? Do I see useless pages, because no content is yet there, or because PPC is not supported? (I have yet to install on x86) I believe its because the content is not finished there yet. This is what you would go to as part of both GNOME and KDE via gstreamer. -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] codecs in 10.3?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Czanik schreef: Hello, Just finished installing RC1 on PPC. I remembered to see something like 'opensuse-codecs-installer' in changelog, so tried to check, if it means proper mp3 support in 10.3. First experience: I installed GNOME for a test. First tried banshee, did not start. Then totem, but the same. Starting them from the command line shows an ugly loud crash for both applications. Second: installed KDE, as I usually do. Opened the mp3 file with kaffeine. First I got a dialog box, if I want to install a suitable codec. When answering 'yes', I got two pages opened, one for mp3 and a second one for xvid. Both of them explained that I wanted to open an unsupported media file, but nothing more. Question: what is the status of codec support? Do I see useless pages, because no content is yet there, or because PPC is not supported? (I have yet to install on x86) Bye, CzP I hope you get an answer on this question that helps, i did not few weeks earlier... ;-) (unofficial reply..;-): If you have a packman repo it is all there.. ;-) (if yast troubles about unsolvable deps, just use smart it can import the nessesary keys without any probs...;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG8nNSX5/X5X6LpDgRAnszAJ0emPK80rm4D1WghvoCzsBCY2pqfQCfabaa RYaav7mf0RTQzFbIc/o5Zp8= =CSKR -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: Support more than 15 partitions on libata
On 2007/09/20 00:44 (GMT-0600) [EMAIL PROTECTED] apparently typed: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218122 --- Comment #25 from Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-09-20 00:44:01 MST --- See the release notes They don't say what one should find in /dev as a result of running activate_dm_linear or what if anything people running 15 on SATA can do or expect. Tentative release notes for 10.3 seem to be nicely hidden, not yet on http://en.opensuse.org/Release_Notes. It would be nice to see http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.2/RELEASE-NOTES.en on http://en.opensuse.org/Factory and/or http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version (and bug # 305095)- I've been following that and every other related bug (keyword 15). Most of what's in them seems pretty cryptic. I would expect running activate_dm_linear /dev/sda at the start of an RC1 install should produce some evidence that anything happened in /dev, but I don't see it. and use hwprobe=-modules.pata to not use libata at all. I don't see how that could be of any help on SATA systems with 15 partitions. I already use it on PATA. The workaround from Hannes needs some more work we will do for RC2 - but even then it will not be nicely integrated and only something for a real hacker. From what I can tell in the relevant bugs, activate_dm_linear seems simple enough for an unreal hacker to manage. I've been ready for quite some time if only I could find functional guidance on what to do or evidence that anything resulted from what I did. This needs more work for 11.0. Obviously. :-p I feel like the progress so far is behind a locked door to which the public key is hidden by secret code, or doesn't exist. The general advise really is to use hwprobe=-modules.pata - this works just fine. On SATA? What is FATE? -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] codecs in 10.3?
Hello, JP Rosevear wrote: Both start perfectly fine here. We have no bug reports about them crashing on start up. Please file with a trace if you can replicate them. OK, I'm doing now another install but will make reports as soon as I'm finished. Question: what is the status of codec support? Do I see useless pages, because no content is yet there, or because PPC is not supported? (I have yet to install on x86) I believe its because the content is not finished there yet. This is what you would go to as part of both GNOME and KDE via gstreamer. Content is now there, just after I sent my e-mail ;-) I downloaded the fluendo plugin, installed as suggested in the documentation, but mp3 is still not played by kaffeine, I keep getting the dialog, if I want to search for plugins... Bye, CzP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Oo needs Gstreamer in RC1, which is not in the factory-repo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Might it be possible that they are not uploaded, or is it something else? Open office deps are not fullfilled... I was not able to copy the exact missing pkgs, no right mouse menu, no ctrl+a, ctrl+c worked so.. - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG8oaEX5/X5X6LpDgRAp3QAJ4yx0WTXrkX6G7zyx+vTPMPcnnf9gCgl8/A B9QdFhyfM5MFRBBhVb781AQ= =Arx/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Support more than 15 partitions on libata
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 09:19 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: They don't say what one should find in /dev as a result of running activate_dm_linear or what if anything people running 15 on SATA can do or expect. I think they would appear under /dev/mapper/. I have used the device mapper thing previously (for encrypted filesystems in old twofishSL92 format), but I know pretty little about it, close to nothing. I believe it can be a very interesting piece of gadgetry, but I haven't seen any user documentation. A howto. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8obatTMYHG2NR9URAtpuAJ0UXp3IrM36rLRNIsFbOTec9ehW1gCfYjvH QUt7BJyrnqUJI1QJif3v1Mc= =GYAg -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] codecs in 10.3?
The Fluendo codecs only target GStreamer. You should have support in Banshee, Totem, and possibly Amarok, if you are using the GStreamer engine. --Aaron On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 15:51 +0200, Peter Czanik wrote: Hello, JP Rosevear wrote: Both start perfectly fine here. We have no bug reports about them crashing on start up. Please file with a trace if you can replicate them. OK, I'm doing now another install but will make reports as soon as I'm finished. Question: what is the status of codec support? Do I see useless pages, because no content is yet there, or because PPC is not supported? (I have yet to install on x86) I believe its because the content is not finished there yet. This is what you would go to as part of both GNOME and KDE via gstreamer. Content is now there, just after I sent my e-mail ;-) I downloaded the fluendo plugin, installed as suggested in the documentation, but mp3 is still not played by kaffeine, I keep getting the dialog, if I want to search for plugins... Bye, CzP - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] bug using sprof?
Hi, I'm struggling to get sprof to run, starting to believe there's a bug somewhere. I'm posting this here because I didn't find any mention searching the web and checking two other computers, sprof works under SUSE 10.0 but fails on another openSUSE 10.2. I'm running openSUSE 10.2, the output of uname -a: Linux psi 2.6.18.8-0.5-default #1 SMP Fri Jun 22 12:17:53 UTC 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux When collecting profile info with LD_PROFILE=libc.so.6 LD_PROFILE_OUTPUT=. ls and afterwards trying to display the profile with sprof libc.so.6 returns sprof: failed to load shared object `libc.so.6': No such file or directory Investigating with ltrace turns up the following: ltrace sprof libc.so.6 __libc_start_main(0x804a7f0, 2, 0xbfe078a4, 0x804b980, 0x804b970 unfinished ... setlocale(6, ) = textdomain() = argp_parse(0x804e0d0, 2, 0xbfe078a4, 0, 0xbfe07808) = 0 strchr(\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377..., '/') = \377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377... strlen(\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377...) = 9 strcpy(0xbfe07672, libc.so.6) = 0xbfe07672 dlopen(\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377..., 1073741825) = NULL dlopen(\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377\377..., 1073741825) = NULL __dcgettext(failed to load shared object `%s..., failed to load shared object `%s..., 5) = failed to load shared object `%s... __errno_location() = 0xb7df968c error(0, 2, 0x804bd94, 0xbfe07cee, 0xb7f696f8sprof: failed to load shared object `libc.so.6': No such file or directory ) = 0 exit(1 unfinished ... +++ exited (status 1) +++ So somehow, somewhere it seems to destroy the name of the so. Is this a bug in openSUSE's libc? Shall I post this to the glibc mailinglist? Cheers, Christian -- Christian Keil/\ Institute for Reliable Computing \ /ASCII Ribbon Campaign Hamburg University of Technology X against HTML email vCards mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo needs Gstreamer in RC1, which is not in the factory-repo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M9. schreef: Hi, Might it be possible that they are not uploaded, or is it something else? Open office deps are not fullfilled... I was not able to copy the exact missing pkgs, no right mouse menu, no ctrl+a, ctrl+c worked so.. tried: zypper update -t packages, result: 5 problemen: Probleem: Geen geldige oplossing gevonden met alleen oplosbaren van de beste architectuur. Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor control-center2-2.20.0-2.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor gstreamer010-plugins-good-0.10.6-35.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan (trying to upgrade from Beta3 offcourse..) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-10-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64) Beta3 KDE: 3.5.7 release 58 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFG8pBsX5/X5X6LpDgRAk+GAKCfHg6nHayJOQy9PGNrHsZa27VmUQCgp8gZ p0wSvV0YmZERr6WZ9R3rVxg= =lbK5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Oo needs Gstreamer in RC1, which is not in the factory-repo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 M9. schreef: M9. schreef: Hi, Might it be possible that they are not uploaded, or is it something else? Open office deps are not fullfilled... I was not able to copy the exact missing pkgs, no right mouse menu, no ctrl+a, ctrl+c worked so.. tried: zypper update -t packages, result: 5 problemen: Probleem: Geen geldige oplossing gevonden met alleen oplosbaren van de beste architectuur. Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor control-center2-2.20.0-2.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor gstreamer010-plugins-good-0.10.6-35.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan (trying to upgrade from Beta3 offcourse..) Probleem: Geen geldige oplossing gevonden met alleen oplosbaren van de beste architectuur. Bij deze draai zijn alleen oplosbaren met de beste architectuur overwogen. Het overwegen van alle mogelijke oplosbaren neemt enige tijd in beslag maar kan een bruikbaar resultaat opleveren. Oplossing 1: Voer een oplosbaarheidsdraai uit met ALLE mogelijkheden. Alle oplosbaren met geschikte architectuur worden overwogen. getal, (o)pnieuw of (a)nnuleren 1 Oplossing 1 wordt toegepast Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan === yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] === yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] zal worden geïnstalleerd door de gebruiker. yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] is nodig voor amarok-yauap-1.4.7-111.pm.4.x86_64 (yauap == 0.2.1-16) gstreamer010-0.10.14-0.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] levert libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit), maar een andere versie van pakket is al geïnstalleerd. gstreamer010-0.10.14-0.pm.2.x86_64 levert libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit), maar is aangemerkt voor deïnstallatie. yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] is afhankelijk van gstreamer010 Oplossing 1: yauap niet installeren yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] niet installeren Oplossing 2: Negeer deze vereiste hier Oplossing 3: Negeer deze vereiste normaliter getal, (o)pnieuw of (a)nnuleren 1 Oplossing 1 wordt toegepast Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor control-center2-2.20.0-2.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan === control-center2-2.20.0-2.x86_64[packages] === control-center2-2.20.0-2.x86_64[packages] zal worden geïnstalleerd door de gebruiker. control-center2-2.20.0-2.x86_64[packages] is nodig voor (libgnome-window-settings.so.1()(64bit)) gstreamer010-0.10.14-0.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] levert libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit), maar een andere versie van pakket is al geïnstalleerd. gstreamer010-0.10.14-0.pm.2.x86_64 levert libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit), maar is aangemerkt voor deïnstallatie. control-center2-2.20.0-2.x86_64[packages] is afhankelijk van gstreamer010 Oplossing 1: control-center2 niet installeren control-center2-2.20.0-2.x86_64[packages] niet installeren Oplossing 2: Negeer deze vereiste hier Oplossing 3: Negeer deze vereiste normaliter getal, (o)pnieuw of (a)nnuleren 1 Oplossing 1 wordt toegepast Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan === OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.x86_64[packages] === OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.x86_64[packages] zal worden geïnstalleerd door de gebruiker. OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.x86_64[packages] is nodig voor (libfwe680lx.so()(64bit)) gstreamer010-0.10.14-0.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] levert libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit), maar een andere versie van pakket is al geïnstalleerd. gstreamer010-0.10.14-0.pm.2.x86_64 levert libgstreamer-0.10.so.0()(64bit), maar is aangemerkt voor deïnstallatie. OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.x86_64[packages] is afhankelijk van gstreamer010 Oplossing 1: OpenOffice_org niet installeren OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1.2-4.x86_64[packages] niet installeren Oplossing 2: Negeer deze vereiste hier Oplossing 3: Negeer deze vereiste normaliter getal, (o)pnieuw of (a)nnuleren 1 Oplossing 1 wordt toegepast Probleem: Aan de vereiste libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit) voor gstreamer010-plugins-good-0.10.6-35.x86_64[packages] kan niet worden voldaan === gstreamer010-plugins-good-0.10.6-35.x86_64[packages] === gstreamer010-plugins-good-0.10.6-35.x86_64[packages] zal worden geïnstalleerd door de gebruiker. gstreamer010-plugins-good-0.10.6-35.x86_64[packages] is nodig voor yauap-0.2.1-16.x86_64[packages] (gstreamer010-plugins-good == 0.10.6-35) gstreamer010-0.10.14-0.pm.2.x86_64[Packman-RPMs] levert libgstbase-0.10.so.0()(64bit), maar een andere versie van pakket is al geïnstalleerd.
[opensuse-factory] Are there any tools in opensuse to download the src rpm?
smart/rug/yast2/apt/yum or other tools? Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] ata disk limited to 8GB on Thinkpad R50p
Hi, RC1 limits the harddisk in my Thinkpad R50p to 8GB. hdparm shows the same amount of sectors for CHS and for LBA. As a result I don't see my extended partitions. -- Andreas Vetter Fakultaet fuer Physik und Astronomie Universitaet Wuerzburg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] codecs in 10.3?
On 2007-09-20 09:17:53 -0600, Aaron Bockover wrote: The Fluendo codecs only target GStreamer. You should have support in Banshee, Totem, and possibly Amarok, if you are using the GStreamer engine. even on ppc? darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] bug using sprof?
On 2007-09-20 17:19:20 +0200, Christian Keil wrote: ltrace sprof libc.so.6 can you provide a strace too? darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Support more than 15 partitions on libata
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2007/09/20 00:44 (GMT-0600) [EMAIL PROTECTED] apparently typed: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218122 --- Comment #25 from Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-09-20 00:44:01 MST --- See the release notes They don't say what one should find in /dev as a result of running activate_dm_linear or what if anything people running 15 on SATA can do or expect. Ignore activate_dm_linear, it's really not working. Btw. you even get a popup which advises to use hwprobe=-modules.pata. Tentative release notes for 10.3 seem to be nicely hidden, not yet on http://en.opensuse.org/Release_Notes. It would be nice to see http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.2/RELEASE-NOTES.en on http://en.opensuse.org/Factory and/or http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version (and bug # 305095)- I've been following that and every other related bug (keyword 15). Most of what's in them seems pretty cryptic. I would expect running activate_dm_linear /dev/sda at the start of an RC1 install should produce some evidence that anything happened in /dev, but I don't see it. As I've said: It misses some files in the inst.sys and therefore just does not work in RC1. and use hwprobe=-modules.pata to not use libata at all. I don't see how that could be of any help on SATA systems with 15 partitions. I already use it on PATA. A SATA system with 15 partitions was never ever supported! If you want that, then use LVM. the activate_dm_linear solution would only help with updating existing PATA systems. The workaround from Hannes needs some more work we will do for RC2 - but even then it will not be nicely integrated and only something for a real hacker. From what I can tell in the relevant bugs, activate_dm_linear seems simple enough for an unreal hacker to manage. I've been ready for quite some time if only I could find functional guidance on what to do or evidence that anything resulted from what I did. This needs more work for 11.0. Obviously. :-p I feel like the progress so far is behind a locked door to which the public key is hidden by secret code, or doesn't exist. The general advise really is to use hwprobe=-modules.pata - this works just fine. On SATA? What is FATE? FATE is our FeAture Tracking Tool Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpzwOEBVurCc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Support more than 15 partitions on libata
Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 09:19 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: They don't say what one should find in /dev as a result of running activate_dm_linear or what if anything people running 15 on SATA can do or expect. I think they would appear under /dev/mapper/. I have used the device mapper thing previously (for encrypted filesystems in old twofishSL92 format), but I know pretty little about it, close to nothing. I believe it can be a very interesting piece of gadgetry, but I haven't seen any user documentation. A howto. Hannes promised me to write a howto in the openSUSE wiki. But with RC1 it just does not work because two binaries are missing in the inst.sys, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpjBV1Zj3eb0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] codecs in 10.3?
Am Thursday 20 September 2007 schrieb Marcus Rueckert: On 2007-09-20 09:17:53 -0600, Aaron Bockover wrote: The Fluendo codecs only target GStreamer. You should have support in Banshee, Totem, and possibly Amarok, if you are using the GStreamer engine. even on ppc? Fluendo even has binaries for sparc - on Solaris only though :) Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] My comments on installing openSUSE-10.3-RC1 on a ThinkPad T40
Hello all I installed openSUSE-10.3-RC1 on a ThinkPad T40 using the openSUSE-10.3-RC1-DVD-i386.iso that I made from the openSUSE-10.3-Beta3_RC1-DVD-i386.delta.iso The installation went fine but I do have a few remarks which I would like to pass along The yast install picked up the Intel 2200BG Wifi card and I used that to load down and install the patchs during the install process. Wifi worked just fine during and after the install (To be truthfull, I had more problems configuring 2200BG Wifi card using Intel lastest drivers under Win XP than with openSUSE). Great work! During the installation my thinkpad model was incorrectly recognized as an R40 2681 The thinkpad model is ThinkPad T40 2373 This is the first time that I have seem yast install mistake the model. There was an rather annoying PatchProgressCallback.99 message popup when I was in the Patch download and Installation window that I had to click too many times for my liking. I imagine that this is for your developpers to debug / troubleshoot yast installation module code and it won't there for long. Lastly the sound was recognized as a T41 in the Hardware window at the end - no big deal I guess as the sound works fine but before is the first time that I have seem yast install mistake the model. Final remarks - Things are looking quite good - The wifi connection (controlled by KNetwork manager as eth0) seems to up faster on boot than before (=thank you) - I have an new semi transparent kde panel toolbar - cool eye candy (=thank you) - Konqueror and Firefox seem to open alot faster under kde. And now Firefox opens really fast the second time (=thank you) - I installed the w32codec-all-20061022-0.pm.1.i586.rpm libdvdcss2 and libdvdcss2-devel but I still can't Kaffeine to play movies. Can any one help me on this one ? That's all I have time for for tonight. Regards James - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] My comments on installing openSUSE-10.3-RC1 on a ThinkPad T40
On 20/09/2007, James PEARSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all There was an rather annoying PatchProgressCallback.99 message popup when I was in the Patch download and Installation window that I had to click too many times for my liking. I imagine that this is for your developpers to debug / troubleshoot yast installation module code and it won't there for long. This has already been reported as https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326247 - I installed the w32codec-all-20061022-0.pm.1.i586.rpm libdvdcss2 and libdvdcss2-devel but I still can't Kaffeine to play movies. Can any one help me on this one ? Install libxine1 from packman as well. Or you could try out the YMPs at http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/10.3 _ Benjamin Weber - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Support more than 15 partitions on libata
On 2007/09/20 21:00 (GMT+0200) Andreas Jaeger apparently typed: Felix Miata wr0te: On 2007/09/20 00:44 (GMT-0600) [EMAIL PROTECTED] apparently typed: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218122 --- Comment #25 from Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-09-20 00:44:01 MST --- See the release notes They don't say what one should find in /dev as a result of running activate_dm_linear or what if anything people running 15 on SATA can do or expect. Ignore activate_dm_linear, it's really not working. Btw. you even get a popup which advises to use hwprobe=-modules.pata. I haven't seen that yet, but I haven't been past the first YaST screen in over a month. Tentative release notes for 10.3 seem to be nicely hidden, not yet on http://en.opensuse.org/Release_Notes. It would be nice to see http://www.suse.com/relnotes/i386/openSUSE/10.2/RELEASE-NOTES.en on http://en.opensuse.org/Factory and/or http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version (and bug # 305095)- I've been following that and every other related bug (keyword 15). Most of what's in them seems pretty cryptic. I would expect running activate_dm_linear /dev/sda at the start of an RC1 install should produce some evidence that anything happened in /dev, but I don't see it. As I've said: It misses some files in the inst.sys and therefore just does not work in RC1. If that's referring to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=326692 I'd like some notification when it hits the factory mirrors instead of waiting over a week for RC2. and use hwprobe=-modules.pata to not use libata at all. I don't see how that could be of any help on SATA systems with 15 partitions. I already use it on PATA. A SATA system with 15 partitions was never ever supported! I well understand that. However https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=218122 summary says Support more than 15 partitions on libata, not Support more than 15 partitions on PATA on libata. Unless I grossly misunderstand the nature of libata, I expect libata to mean libata HD support regardless whether used for PATA or SATA. If I'm not wrong in my understanding, and yet 15 on SATA is unlikely to be supported now or within next year or so, then the summary of that bug seems to be wrong, and should be changed to remove any implication of applicability to SATA either now or in the future. If you want that, then use LVM. That may be fine for most people, as that's apparently what the kernel developers expect, as well as the only offering for Fedora users. It's not so good for people with a tried and true multiboot creation, maintenance, backup and restore strategy based upon cloning/copying partitions and a minimal number of physical hard disks per system. LVM is no solution to many of us with true multiboot of multiple versions of Linux and other operating systems (more than ~3 total). LVM is not OS agnostic. On systems that use it, systems that don't understand it have to work around it, which to my knowledge as a user of 15 on multiple systems for many years is simply not practical. IOW, if 15 is never to be supported on SATA, those of us committed to 15 are committed to having to buy converter gadgets to use SATA drives as PATA drives as the old PATA drives need replacement[1], and to keeping legacy systems operational well beyond expected lifetimes, since new motherboards omit PATA controllers, and PATA add-in cards are treated as SCSI cards not under boot order control of the PC system BIOS. It's really absurd that as HD sizes continue to escalate that users should be forced to using ever stupidly larger partitions due to the kernels arbitrary limitation of 14 replacing the traditional 62. A limit of 14 on a 500GiB drive means either average partition size over 10 times the size of my current average partition size, or wasting 80% or more of the disk to keep partitions to a manageable size for backup and pruning purposes. [1] Seagate, world's largest HD supplier, has already announced imminent cessation of PATA drive production. the activate_dm_linear solution would only help with updating existing PATA systems. Does this mean it could not be applied to SATA, or merely that was not the intent of creating a solution for upgrading systems with 15 on PATA? The workaround from Hannes needs some more work we will do for RC2 - but even then it will not be nicely integrated and only something for a real hacker. From what I can tell in the relevant bugs, activate_dm_linear seems simple enough for an unreal hacker to manage. I've been ready for quite some time if only I could find functional guidance on what to do or evidence that anything resulted from what I did. This needs more work for 11.0. Obviously. :-p I feel like the progress so far is behind a locked door to which the public key is hidden by secret code, or doesn't exist. The general advise really is to use hwprobe=-modules.pata - this works just fine. On Mandriva Cooker 2008
Re: [opensuse-factory] Support more than 15 partitions on libata
2007/9/20, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want that, then use LVM. That may be fine for most people, as that's apparently what the kernel developers expect, as well as the only offering for Fedora users. It's not so good for people with a tried and true multiboot creation, maintenance, backup and restore strategy based upon cloning/copying partitions and a minimal number of physical hard disks per system. From the backup point of view, is more secure to use 2 HD, rather than only one. Because if You has only one HD, and it got mechanicals or controller (internal) problems, the backup of one partition in other of the same disk, goes useless. If You use 2 Hard Disks, then the problem of the 15 partitions is resolved, because You can obtain 30 partitions from the 2 HDs. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Support more than 15 partitions on libata
On 2007/09/20 19:34 (GMT-0300) Juan Erbes apparently typed: 2007/9/20, Felix Miata wrote: Andreas Jaeger wrote: If you want that, then use LVM. That may be fine for most people, as that's apparently what the kernel developers expect, as well as the only offering for Fedora users. It's not so good for people with a tried and true multiboot creation, maintenance, backup and restore strategy based upon cloning/copying partitions and a minimal number of physical hard disks per system. From the backup point of view, is more secure to use 2 HD, rather than only one. Because if You has only one HD, and it got mechanicals or controller (internal) problems, the backup of one partition in other of the same disk, goes useless. Additional safety of more disks unless using RAID is an illusion, and then with RAID you're right back to the limit of 14. To get 28 and safety means you need 4 disks: 2 for each set of 14 partitions, and matching devices for the RAID1. Now with 4 disks you have 4 times the opportunity for hardware failure, and 4 times the cost. If You use 2 Hard Disks, then the problem of the 15 partitions is resolved, because You can obtain 30 partitions from the 2 HDs. 30 takes 3 devices, because 15 is only the name of the last device, not the count, which is 14, because on sd[1-4] only 3 can have filesystems. What makes you think 30 is enough? I have 42+, and don't want to buy 3 times as many disks and the larger power supplies to feed them, and the extra electricity/pollution to run them full time. My backups involve (small) part time usage disks, typically shared among multiple systems. There are many ways to skin the backup cat, and multiple partitions is a choice of no small number, including myself. -- It yet remains a problem to be solved in human affairs, whether any free government can be permanent, where the public worship of God, and the support of religion, constitute no part of the policy or duty of the state in any assignable shape. Chief Justice Joseph Story Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Support more than 15 partitions on libata
2007/9/20, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2007/09/20 19:34 (GMT-0300) Juan Erbes apparently typed: 2007/9/20, Felix Miata wrote: Andreas Jaeger wrote: If you want that, then use LVM. That may be fine for most people, as that's apparently what the kernel developers expect, as well as the only offering for Fedora users. It's not so good for people with a tried and true multiboot creation, maintenance, backup and restore strategy based upon cloning/copying partitions and a minimal number of physical hard disks per system. From the backup point of view, is more secure to use 2 HD, rather than only one. Because if You has only one HD, and it got mechanicals or controller (internal) problems, the backup of one partition in other of the same disk, goes useless. Additional safety of more disks unless using RAID is an illusion, and then with RAID you're right back to the limit of 14. To get 28 and safety means you need 4 disks: 2 for each set of 14 partitions, and matching devices for the RAID1. Now with 4 disks you have 4 times the opportunity for hardware failure, and 4 times the cost. If You use 2 Hard Disks, then the problem of the 15 partitions is resolved, because You can obtain 30 partitions from the 2 HDs. 30 takes 3 devices, because 15 is only the name of the last device, not the count, which is 14, because on sd[1-4] only 3 can have filesystems. What makes you think 30 is enough? I have 42+, and don't want to buy 3 times as many disks and the larger power supplies to feed them, and the extra electricity/pollution to run them full time. My backups involve (small) part time usage disks, typically shared among multiple systems. Sorry, but I do'nt speak anything about RAID1. It's Your illusion. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Support more than 15 partitions on libata
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 19:37 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Additional safety of more disks unless using RAID is an illusion, and then with RAID you're right back to the limit of 14. To get 28 and safety means you need 4 disks: 2 for each set of 14 partitions, and matching devices for the RAID1. Now with 4 disks you have 4 times the opportunity for hardware failure, and 4 times the cost. I think we might do something: use two disks in software raid configuration. Perhaps some non raid partitions (/boot?), then a big raid partition having the rest of the disk. This would appear as /dev/md0. Now, md0 can be partitioned. From /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt: 9 block Metadisk (RAID) devices 0 = /dev/md0 First metadisk group 1 = /dev/md1 Second metadisk group ... Here, the minor represents the device. I'm not sure how would partitions inside appear. I know it can be partitioned because fdisk says so: ] nimrodel:~ # fdisk /dev/md0 ] Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel ] Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only, ] until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous ] content won't be recoverable. ] ] ] The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 781136. ] There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, ] and could in certain setups cause problems with: ] 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) ] 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs ](e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) ] Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) I haven't tried it, not further that point. It is not ideal, of course, but... :-? might work? Of course, you can use a degraded raid of only one side, ie, one disk. 30 takes 3 devices, because 15 is only the name of the last device, not the count, which is 14, because on sd[1-4] only 3 can have filesystems. Ouch. I hadn't noticed that detail. We usually don't count the extended partition. Of course, we can only use partition 1..15, of which one of them is not writeable. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8w58tTMYHG2NR9URAj9AAKCAMDcF4F9h1rv2nzfz8tFbEXGdpACbBZzh +6JLKaa26Xl+NS/mTcusVQQ= =WYf0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Are there any tools in opensuse to downloadthe src rpm?
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On Friday, September 21, 2007 at 00:12:35, James Li wrote:
smart/rug/yast2/apt/yum or other tools?
$ zypper --help | grep source-install
source-install, si Install a source package
Thanks! Can I only download the src rpm without installation?
Henne
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Are there any tools in opensuse to downloadthe src rpm?
* James Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-20-07 21:19]: - Original Message - From: Henne Vogelsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Are there any tools in opensuse to downloadthe src rpm? Hi, On Friday, September 21, 2007 at 00:12:35, James Li wrote: smart/rug/yast2/apt/yum or other tools? $ zypper --help | grep source-install source-install, si Install a source package Thanks! Can I only download the src rpm without installation? Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson smart install --download Please avail yourself of the many man pages and cl help displays available. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Are there any tools in opensuse to downloadthe src rpm?
- Original Message - From: Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org; Henne Vogelsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Are there any tools in opensuse to downloadthe src rpm? * James Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-20-07 21:19]: - Original Message - From: Henne Vogelsang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: opensuse-factory@opensuse.org Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [opensuse-factory] Are there any tools in opensuse to downloadthe src rpm? Hi, On Friday, September 21, 2007 at 00:12:35, James Li wrote: smart/rug/yast2/apt/yum or other tools? $ zypper --help | grep source-install source-install, si Install a source package Thanks! Can I only download the src rpm without installation? Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson smart install --download Please avail yourself of the many man pages and cl help displays available. how can I use smart download the src rpm? # smart install --download heartbeat*.src.rpm Loading cache... Updating cache... [100%] error: 'heartbeat*.src.rpm' matches no packages Saving cache... -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Are there any tools in opensuse to downloadthe src rpm?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2007-09-21 at 09:11 +0800, James Li wrote: $ zypper --help | grep source-install source-install, si Install a source package Thanks! Can I only download the src rpm without installation? Why don't you simply download it? I believe you have it here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/ - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8yhvtTMYHG2NR9URAsIQAKCKw1c8p1pWF4lXo8WK5flmFCsHQQCffaw/ PAKaKyoAUMDRYxQspClcIJg= =2gvz -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] virtualisation and dual core
Hans Witvliet wrote: On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 15:00 +0200, jdd wrote: Hello can I state than any dual core provessor can do full virtualisation? thanks jdd -- No, Afair, only the dual-core with numbers higher than 6000 have the VT-extensions, and no AMD? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Bug 97414 in kdesu (Suse 10.2)
Hi, I updated kdebase to 3.5.7-89.1.i586.rpm from software.opensuse.org and get now the same error described in the bug. (kde bugtracking) :~$ kdesu -c smart --gui kdesu: Unbekannte Option --gui. kdesu: Benutzen Sie den Parameter --help, um die verfügbaren Optionen zu sehen :~$ kdesu --version Qt: 3.3.8 KDE: 3.5.7 release 78.1 KDE su: 1.0 Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:23 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: James Knott wrote: Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? tnx jk Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites. Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. What channel/repo did you use? Hans E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:23 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: James Knott wrote: Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites. What channel/repo did you use? You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2 -- Regards, Graham Smith -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 18:08 +1000, Graham Smith wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:23 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: James Knott wrote: Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites. What channel/repo did you use? You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2 -- Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way? Hans E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] mail list
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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 08:15 -, Hans van der Merwe wrote: You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2 Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way? Of course it does: it is stable! :-P And older, obviously. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8k2ptTMYHG2NR9URAr15AJ96T/e1Jht2J2tPe7XWLUr0IJoZJgCdF1aE qeBykq9hOedQxF1a5cZG7U0= =7xrA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: mail list
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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Basil Chupin wrote: James Knott wrote: Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? tnx jk Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites. So, I guess the next question is where is it hiding?. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Graham Smith wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:23 +1000, Basil Chupin wrote: James Knott wrote: Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites. What channel/repo did you use? You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2 tnx -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
On my Toshiba P35 laptop, opensuse 10.2, *nothing* is shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup. Is this normal??? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
no. Perhaps something wrong with your DMA or BIOS -- -Alexey Eremenko Technologov -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
David C. Rankin wrote: On my Toshiba P35 laptop, opensuse 10.2, *nothing* is shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup. Is this normal??? It might not be enabled, try the command hdparm -d /dev/hda to check if it is enabled (you need to be root to run this command). If it is not, you can enable it with the command hdparm -d1 to enable it. The man page gives more information on the command. Also, it wouldn't hurt to check the BIOS settings. Bill Anderson WW7BA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
Ok, Now I'm confused... After all of the discussion about ram size/swap size, I decided to try and make my 1G Toshiba P35 laptop start swapping stuff to the swap file. I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. Is this normal?? Was the memory just being remapped from the inactive programs? How can I test to see if my swap file is working? The partitioner says it is fine, mounted by the kernel as hda5 and is a nice health 2G in size. But if I can't get the laptop to write anything to it, how do I know it is working?? Weird question I know, but when I opened 15-20 applications I expected something to start getting written to the swap file. Any thoughts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
Bill Anderson wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: On my Toshiba P35 laptop, opensuse 10.2, *nothing* is shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup. Is this normal??? It might not be enabled, try the command hdparm -d /dev/hda to check if it is enabled (you need to be root to run this command). If it is not, you can enable it with the command hdparm -d1 to enable it. The man page gives more information on the command. Also, it wouldn't hurt to check the BIOS settings. Bill Anderson WW7BA All looks good there. I wonder why Yast doesn't see it? [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # hdparm -d /dev/hda /dev/hda: using_dma= 1 (on) -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 08:15 -, Hans van der Merwe wrote: You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2 Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way? Of course it does: it is stable! :-P Well, at some point it becomes stable and moves over to the STABLE tree? or is the version in there always unstable? Hans E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 06:41 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: Ok, Now I'm confused... After all of the discussion about ram size/swap size, I decided to try and make my 1G Toshiba P35 laptop start swapping stuff to the swap file. I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. It probably was taken from the memory used for buffers. The command 'swapon -s' will also tell you the used swap and where. Just suspend the machine to disk, and get back: you will see that many things will remain swaped out. The computer is slow right after waking up, because needed things are not in ram and have to be read from disk. After a while, it is faster than before because it has got ridden himself of useless chunks in memory that has ben swapped out. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8mAitTMYHG2NR9URAtbJAJ9zCiBhVmz9xFgffw+9XOMgNx3i2QCfdnkH dB1qyS8tmsi/jjbz58/Tg8c= =b6v9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 08:15 -, Hans van der Merwe wrote: You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2 Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way? Of course it does: it is stable! :-P Well, at some point it becomes stable and moves over to the STABLE tree? or is the version in there always unstable? Hans There is nothing unstable about it - it works AOK :-) . Cheers. -- Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Am Donnerstag, 20. September 2007 13:11:57 schrieb James Knott: Basil Chupin wrote: James Knott wrote: Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? tnx jk Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites. So, I guess the next question is where is it hiding?. ;-) Which you already figured out ;) However I just wanted to say, that openoffice.org also offers downloads of the latest OOo versions ;) (also rpms) Greetings Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
James Knott wrote: Basil Chupin wrote: James Knott wrote: Are there any plans for a SUSE version of OpenOffice.2.3? tnx jk Smart updated me (10.2) to 2.3.0.1) about 10 days ago or so and the update came from one of the SuSE sites. So, I guess the next question is where is it hiding?. ;-) I guess by now you would have seen the source for it (the one termed 'unstable' ) :-) . There is nothing unstable about OO from that site. Cheers. - Past experience, if not forgotten, is a guide for the future. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
Bill Anderson wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: On my Toshiba P35 laptop, opensuse 10.2, *nothing* is shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup. Is this normal??? Additional explanation, when I say nothing is shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup, I literally mean *nothing* not just no DMA option, I mean *no* hard drive at all. That's what is really strange... It might not be enabled, try the command hdparm -d /dev/hda to check if it is enabled (you need to be root to run this command). If it is not, you can enable it with the command hdparm -d1 to enable it. The man page gives more information on the command. Also, it wouldn't hurt to check the BIOS settings. That is another strange thing about this laptop, the bios is virtually void of any information. I mean yes, it shows the drive and basic time/date information and has the ability to set the boot device, but that is about it. There is a lot of stuff that just isn't shown/configurable. This P4 laptop is aging yes, but as far as function it has integrated 802.11g, firewire, usb, dvd-rw, multicard reader, etc. but is has the smallest human bios interface known to man - go figure? Maybe that is why Yast doesn't show the drive and why nobody has configured a powersave suspend to ram acpi function. Thanks for the help. If you have any other thoughts, please pass them along! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 08:15 -, Hans van der Merwe wrote: You will find OpenOffice_org-2.3.0.1-26.1.i586.rpm here ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2 Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way? Of course it does: it is stable! :-P http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/ is the link for stable and unstable Well, at some point it becomes stable and moves over to the STABLE tree? or is the version in there always unstable? 2.3 is the stable release now, Petr just hasn't had a chance to move it over yet. -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
David C. Rankin wrote: [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # ll /proc/swaps -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-09-20 07:33 /proc/swaps The permission would seem to prevent writing to swap. What should the permissions for swap be? This file simply contains a _list_ of your swap partition(s). Just do a cat /proc/swaps. In my case this gives me: FilenameTypeSizeUsed Priority /dev/hda5 partition 562232 134424 -1 Which means that hda5 is being used as swap, swap size is ~562MB of which ~134MB are in use. If your swap partition is listed in this file, then it's being used. This is the first time in _months_ that I am using my swap at all (it's simply because I run a big deltaiso). Usually, my swap usage is at 0MB no matter what I do, so this is nothing to worry about. Actually, this is a good thing, because it means that I have sufficient RAM for the things that I am doing. Regards nordi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: howto test swap? [was RAM]
David C. Rankin wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 06:41 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: Ok, Now I'm confused... After all of the discussion about ram size/swap size, I decided to try and make my 1G Toshiba P35 laptop start swapping stuff to the swap file. I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. It probably was taken from the memory used for buffers. The command 'swapon -s' will also tell you the used swap and where. Just suspend the machine to disk, and get back: you will see that many things will remain swaped out. The computer is slow right after waking up, because needed things are not in ram and have to be read from disk. After a while, it is faster than before because it has got ridden himself of useless chunks in memory that has ben swapped out. [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/hda5 partition 2104472 0 -1 What is strange is that man swapon says -s is equivalent to cat /proc/swaps. I do not have a /proc/swaps to be found. Hmm.. Thoughts? Let me correct that. I do have a swaps it has the permissions: [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # ll /proc/swaps -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-09-20 07:33 /proc/swaps The permission would seem to prevent writing to swap. What should the permissions for swap be? Your normal user wouldn't write to it anyway. It's just a special informational file (like most if not all the files found in /proc), it isn't the actual swap file. The actual swap partition is specified in the /etc/fstab file. -- Jonathan Arnold (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Linux Brain Dump - Linux Notes, HOWTOs and Tutorials: http://www.linuxbraindump.org Daemon Dancing in the Dark, an Open OS weblog: http://freebsd.amazingdev.com/blog/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
David C. Rankin wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 06:41 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: Ok, Now I'm confused... After all of the discussion about ram size/swap size, I decided to try and make my 1G Toshiba P35 laptop start swapping stuff to the swap file. I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. It probably was taken from the memory used for buffers. The command 'swapon -s' will also tell you the used swap and where. Just suspend the machine to disk, and get back: you will see that many things will remain swaped out. The computer is slow right after waking up, because needed things are not in ram and have to be read from disk. After a while, it is faster than before because it has got ridden himself of useless chunks in memory that has ben swapped out. [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/hda5 partition 2104472 0 -1 What is strange is that man swapon says -s is equivalent to cat /proc/swaps. I do not have a /proc/swaps to be found. Hmm.. Thoughts? Let me correct that. I do have a swaps it has the permissions: [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # ll /proc/swaps -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-09-20 07:33 /proc/swaps The permission would seem to prevent writing to swap. What should the permissions for swap be? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 06:41 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: Ok, Now I'm confused... After all of the discussion about ram size/swap size, I decided to try and make my 1G Toshiba P35 laptop start swapping stuff to the swap file. I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. It probably was taken from the memory used for buffers. The command 'swapon -s' will also tell you the used swap and where. Just suspend the machine to disk, and get back: you will see that many things will remain swaped out. The computer is slow right after waking up, because needed things are not in ram and have to be read from disk. After a while, it is faster than before because it has got ridden himself of useless chunks in memory that has ben swapped out. [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/hda5 partition 2104472 0 -1 What is strange is that man swapon says -s is equivalent to cat /proc/swaps. I do not have a /proc/swaps to be found. Hmm.. Thoughts? -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
David C. Rankin wrote: Bill Anderson wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: On my Toshiba P35 laptop, opensuse 10.2, *nothing* is shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup. Is this normal??? Additional explanation, when I say nothing is shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup, I literally mean *nothing* not just no DMA option, I mean *no* hard drive at all. That's what is really strange... It might not be enabled, try the command hdparm -d /dev/hda to check if it is enabled (you need to be root to run this command). If it is not, you can enable it with the command hdparm -d1 to enable it. The man page gives more information on the command. Also, it wouldn't hurt to check the BIOS settings. That is another strange thing about this laptop, the bios is virtually void of any information. I mean yes, it shows the drive and basic time/date information and has the ability to set the boot device, but that is about it. There is a lot of stuff that just isn't shown/configurable. This P4 laptop is aging yes, but as far as function it has integrated 802.11g, firewire, usb, dvd-rw, multicard reader, etc. but is has the smallest human bios interface known to man - go figure? Maybe that is why Yast doesn't show the drive and why nobody has configured a powersave suspend to ram acpi function. Thanks for the help. If you have any other thoughts, please pass them along! I rarely use yast, as I perform most tasks from the command line. On my laptop, I noticed that it was using the 16-bit default for transferring data from the ide controller to the bus. You can check this with the hdparm -c /dev/hda command. While nothing can be done about the 16 data transfer lines on the cable, you can improve the bus transfer by setting the value to 1 or 3. Read the man page on this one, as some chipsets want the value to be 3. Changing the bus transfer size does provide a small boost to performance. You can test the results, with the command hdparm -Tt /dev/hda. Bill Anderson WW7BA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [opensuse] A web front-end to SSH Server - possible ?
Hi! I use MindTerm to access my pc at home. A very nice java applet. http://www.mindbright.com/products/80_MindTerm/110_MindTerm_Download/ Regards /Mattias -Original Message- From: Sunny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 september 2007 20:45 To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] A web front-end to SSH Server - possible ? On 9/15/07, Sunny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alexey, I doubt there is such a think. The whole idea of the ssh client/server is, that the traffic between the client and the server is encrypted all the way. If you add whatever proxy, etc., at least the traffic between the client and that middle-man will be open, which not what ssh stands for. Now, there is this program: http://www.gnu.org/software/httptunnel/httptunnel.html, but as far as I know, you can not install ssh client on the machine, so you wouldn't be able to use it. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
David C. Rankin wrote: I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. Is this normal?? Was the memory just being remapped from the inactive programs? How can I test to see if my swap file is working? The partitioner says it is fine, mounted by the kernel as hda5 and is a nice health 2G in size. But if I can't get the laptop to write anything to it, how do I know it is working?? The simple advice is to stop worrying! You haven't got a problem so stop looking for one :) A slightly more complicated answer: programs don't use swap, data does. That's an exaggaration but is the gist of the answer. If you want to use some swap, load one gimp and then open lots of pictures. Or load openoffice and lots of documents. Or firefox and lots of web pages. You get the idea. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 06:41 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: Ok, Now I'm confused... After all of the discussion about ram size/swap size, I decided to try and make my 1G Toshiba P35 laptop start swapping stuff to the swap file. I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. It probably was taken from the memory used for buffers. The command 'swapon -s' will also tell you the used swap and where. Just suspend the machine to disk, and get back: you will see that many things will remain swaped out. The computer is slow right after waking up, because needed things are not in ram and have to be read from disk. After a while, it is faster than before because it has got ridden himself of useless chunks in memory that has ben swapped out. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8mAitTMYHG2NR9URAtbJAJ9zCiBhVmz9xFgffw+9XOMgNx3i2QCfdnkH dB1qyS8tmsi/jjbz58/Tg8c= =b6v9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- I have been avoiding this thread, because the answer is too long. For optimal performance, the kernel pre-allocates buffers and caches. It steals from these buffers and caches as it needs memory for applications. As for application memory usage, Linux does not keep all of the application in memory. Virtual memory is the memory map of an application. The physical memory only contains those pages in use by the application. Thus, if you run a command like top, you will see the virtual size and the resident size. As for swap space, the kernel only needs to send the anonymous memory pages of an application to swap space, the text (code) can be retrieved from the disk file for the application. The kernel attempts to keep a certain percentage of memory as free, to avoid running out of memory. If a memory shortage occurs, the kernel will automatically kill applications based on their oom score. If push comes to shove, the kernel shall survive. Bill Anderson WW7BA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: howto test swap? [was RAM]
Jonathan Arnold wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: David C. Rankin wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 06:41 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: Ok, Now I'm confused... After all of the discussion about ram size/swap size, I decided to try and make my 1G Toshiba P35 laptop start swapping stuff to the swap file. I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. It probably was taken from the memory used for buffers. The command 'swapon -s' will also tell you the used swap and where. Just suspend the machine to disk, and get back: you will see that many things will remain swaped out. The computer is slow right after waking up, because needed things are not in ram and have to be read from disk. After a while, it is faster than before because it has got ridden himself of useless chunks in memory that has ben swapped out. [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/hda5 partition 2104472 0 -1 What is strange is that man swapon says -s is equivalent to cat /proc/swaps. I do not have a /proc/swaps to be found. Hmm.. Thoughts? Let me correct that. I do have a swaps it has the permissions: [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # ll /proc/swaps -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-09-20 07:33 /proc/swaps The permission would seem to prevent writing to swap. What should the permissions for swap be? Your normal user wouldn't write to it anyway. It's just a special informational file (like most if not all the files found in /proc), it isn't the actual swap file. The actual swap partition is specified in the /etc/fstab file. The /proc directory is really a reflection of kernel data structures. They are not real files and directories. Through the magic of VFS, system calls to these files and directories invoke routines that read the current kernel data. Under /proc/sys, there are nodes that are tunable kernel parameters, and these do have write permission. Many commands, such as ps, top, lsmod, vmstat, and others, retrieve their data from /proc. This approach avoids the proliferation of system calls, by using VFS and pseudo filesystems. Bill Anderson WW7BA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] kernel panic at openSuSE 10.3 (after kernel update)
hi, all. yesterday i update my openSuSE 10.3 via zypper and now i have Kernel Panic at boot with Code: bad eip value message. early i sew this bug, but it was associated with usb device and network card, but now i have this problem with notebook. so, i have 2.6.22.5-10 and now problem with it, and now i have 2.6.22.5-21 and dead system. unfortunately, i didn't see a last kernel at /boot/ directory and i don't know hot to return old kernel. thank you for your attention. -- respectfully Artyom Loenko [aka] dive http://divehome.blogspot.com http://linux.spb.org ICQ: 255166118 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +7 (906) 2583135 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] 10.0, azureus and undefined symbol: gnome_icon_theme_new
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 20:42 -0500, Sunny wrote: Hi, I have 10.2 x64, with the latest azureus packages from packman. When it starts, it opens the main window and immediately closes. In the log file I find: /usr/lib64/jvm/jre/bin/java: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/Azureus/libswt-gnome-gtk-3346.so: undefined symbol: gnome_icon_theme_new So, any idea what else I should install? What lib provides that symbol? It comes from libgnomeui. -JP -- JP Rosevear [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell, Inc. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 07:34 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # swapon -s FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority /dev/hda5 partition 2104472 0 -1 What is strange is that man swapon says -s is equivalent to cat /proc/swaps. I do not have a /proc/swaps to be found. Hmm.. Thoughts? You should. I do: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /proc/swaps FilenameTypeSizeUsed Priority /dev/hdd7 partition 6297440 589736 42 Let me correct that. I do have a swaps it has the permissions: [root Rankin-P35a:/home/david] # ll /proc/swaps -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-09-20 07:33 /proc/swaps The permission would seem to prevent writing to swap. What should the permissions for swap be? Permissions are correct. That's just an informational, virtual file, not the real swap. And any way, a user or its program do not write to the swap: it is the kernel who does. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8ouYtTMYHG2NR9URAlBuAKCRpk0jF6UhkbTCjjXEaUaocO8nHACfbLT/ b3mwoYeEnoBCP87YZ55Vnj8= =LeDi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 07:08 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: you will see the virtual size and the resident size. As for swap space, the kernel only needs to send the anonymous memory pages of an application to swap space, the text (code) can be retrieved from the disk file for the application. Which is probably slower than just using swap for all (instead of seeking all around the disk). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8ozotTMYHG2NR9URAguTAKCNsLCSCQJI5xIqDkgT9nVvoi9pSgCgh6sT 4XWHVIPvh4BQIUp0sY8stYE= =y8jt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: Thats the UNSTABLE branch - anyone know if the official stable version from Openoffice.org differs in any way? Of course it does: it is stable! :-P Well, at some point it becomes stable and moves over to the STABLE tree? or is the version in there always unstable? If it proves to be stable, it is moved, I suppose. I remember reading the maintainer here, something about testing new features that could be buggy. That should be the unstable version. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8o2TtTMYHG2NR9URAiJvAKCWnzK0mYSXI/MM2xIPQ7GPEfRYDQCbBnI4 PVnNDcoKPZfO8O7F82E6y+g= =i37o -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 14:04 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote: However I just wanted to say, that openoffice.org also offers downloads of the latest OOo versions ;) (also rpms) Which will not have all Novell modifications. Some of them haven't gone upstream yet. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8o4ttTMYHG2NR9URApeqAJoDAlkYKVtOwexz3okoMPfFaArWiwCglwom eMwM/l3ee90IPgP08fLnd14= =rjR5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 14:01 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote: The simple advice is to stop worrying! You haven't got a problem so stop looking for one :) He is just curious ;-) A slightly more complicated answer: programs don't use swap, data does. That's an exaggaration but is the gist of the answer. If you want to use some swap, load one gimp and then open lots of pictures. The Gimp uses its own temporary space in disk. Or load openoffice and lots of documents. Or firefox and lots of web pages. You get the idea. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8oxctTMYHG2NR9URArMuAKCBCeb7khblKolEK9nNy8SYmHmwvQCgkYNa xFx0lyC1/JRCtGNBzFU+MzM= =IPuo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
On Thursday 20 September 2007 08:08, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 07:08 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: you will see the virtual size and the resident size. As for swap space, the kernel only needs to send the anonymous memory pages of an application to swap space, the text (code) can be retrieved from the disk file for the application. Which is probably slower than just using swap for all (instead of seeking all around the disk). Maybe, maybe not. For one thing, it's always advisable to have dedicated disks for swap. Also, when more than one process is using the text (instructions) or read-only data pages in question, they are much less likely to be abandoned. The extensive use of shared libraries means that many of the potentially sharable pages within a given process are likely to actually be in use by other processes, as well. Only large applications tend to have a high ratio of unique to shared pages. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
On Thursday 20 September 2007 08:06, Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 14:01 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote: ... A slightly more complicated answer: programs don't use swap, data does. That's an exaggaration but is the gist of the answer. If you want to use some swap, load one gimp and then open lots of pictures. The Gimp uses its own temporary space in disk. And it allows the user to configure where (within the file system) to create its temporary files. ... -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. Randall Schulz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
Carlos E. R. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 07:08 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: you will see the virtual size and the resident size. As for swap space, the kernel only needs to send the anonymous memory pages of an application to swap space, the text (code) can be retrieved from the disk file for the application. Which is probably slower than just using swap for all (instead of seeking all around the disk). - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8ozotTMYHG2NR9URAguTAKCNsLCSCQJI5xIqDkgT9nVvoi9pSgCgh6sT 4XWHVIPvh4BQIUp0sY8stYE= =y8jt -END PGP SIGNATURE- This paging concept has been around for awhile. Even Unix has doesn't page text to swap, as the writes are just too expensive. With a good elevator algorithm the cost of seeks is minimal. Bill Anderson WW7BA -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Am Donnerstag, 20. September 2007 17:13:47 schrieb Carlos E. R.: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 14:04 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote: However I just wanted to say, that openoffice.org also offers downloads of the latest OOo versions ;) (also rpms) Which will not have all Novell modifications. Some of them haven't gone upstream yet. Of course you're right. ;) Btw. is there a list of modifications Novell did? Greetings Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
Am Donnerstag 20 September 2007 13:18:36 schrieb David C. Rankin: On my Toshiba P35 laptop, opensuse 10.2, *nothing* is shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup. Is this normal??? Maybe because you don't have any IDE-drives in laptop but all sata drives? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
(sorry for the Double post Bill I hit send too soon) Bill Anderson wrote: Carlos E. R. wrote: The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 06:41 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: Ok, Now I'm confused... After all of the discussion about ram size/swap size, I decided to try and make my 1G Toshiba P35 laptop start swapping stuff to the swap file. I opened everything I could think of, 4 konsoles, 2 Open Office files, 3 Gimps, 2 Firefox, 2 Kongueror, Kjot, knotes, ksnapshot, kstars, Amarok, Thunderbird and several more, but the memory required, as shown by top, *never* exceeded 1G. The more I would open, the more slight slowness would occur, but I *always* had 13k - 15k of memory left and *nothing* was ever written to the swap file. It probably was taken from the memory used for buffers. The command 'swapon -s' will also tell you the used swap and where. Just suspend the machine to disk, and get back: you will see that many things will remain swaped out. The computer is slow right after waking up, because needed things are not in ram and have to be read from disk. After a while, it is faster than before because it has got ridden himself of useless chunks in memory that has ben swapped out. -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. I have been avoiding this thread, because the answer is too long. For optimal performance, the kernel pre-allocates buffers and caches. It steals from these buffers and caches as it needs memory for applications. As for application memory usage, Linux does not keep all of the application in memory. Virtual memory is the memory map of an application. The physical memory only contains those pages in use by the application. Thus, if you run a command like top, you will see the virtual size and the resident size. As for swap space, the kernel only needs to send the anonymous memory pages of an application to swap space, the text (code) can be retrieved from the disk file for the application. The kernel attempts to keep a certain percentage of memory as free, to avoid running out of memory. If a memory shortage occurs, the kernel will automatically kill applications based on their oom score. If push comes to shove, the kernel shall survive. Bill Anderson WW7BA Now that is a great answer! The veil of fog has lifted, I have learned something new, and I understand a lot better now why my memory allocation and swap behavior appear as they do in top. Thanks! -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
Volker Poplawski wrote:
Am Donnerstag 20 September 2007 13:18:36 schrieb David C. Rankin:
On my Toshiba P35 laptop, opensuse 10.2, *nothing* is shown in Yast IDE
DMA Setup. Is this normal???
Maybe because you don't have any IDE-drives in laptop but all sata drives?
Well that's just cooky, but you are right! I do have an IDE drive in
there, not SATA. How do I know? Because I just put the new Western
Digital Scorpio WD1200BEVE 120GB 5400 RPM ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive in
there. But it looks like my friend 'Hal' is using it as a serial storage
device?? From hardware info:
12: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_WD_WXE307576390'
storage.media_check_enabled = false
storage.firmware_version = '01.04A01'
storage.removable.media_available = true
storage.size = 120034123776ull (0x1bf2976000ull)
storage.hotpluggable = false
block.storage_device =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_WD_WXE307576390'
linux.sysfs_path_device = '/sys/block/hda'
storage.bus = 'ide'
block.major = 3 (0x3)
block.is_volume = false
storage.drive_type = 'disk'
info.capabilities = { 'storage', 'block' }
storage.removable.media_size = 120034123776ull (0x1bf2976000ull)
info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_WD_WXE307576390'
volume.ignore = true
storage.no_partitions_hint = false
linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3)
storage.model = 'WDC WD1200BEVE-11UYT0'
storage.serial = 'WD-WXE307576390'
info.product = 'WDC WD1200BEVE-11UYT0'
storage.requires_eject = false
linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/block/hda'
storage.physical_device =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_4349_ide_0_0'
info.category = 'storage'
storage.automount_enabled_hint = true
storage.removable = false
info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_4349_ide_0_0'
block.device = '/dev/hda'
block.minor = 0 (0x0)
storage.vendor = ''
storage.partitioning_scheme = 'mbr'
Go figure???
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Re: [opensuse] howto test swap? [was RAM]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 09:53 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: kernel only needs to send the anonymous memory pages of an application to swap space, the text (code) can be retrieved from the disk file for the application. Which is probably slower than just using swap for all (instead of seeking all around the disk). This paging concept has been around for awhile. Even Unix has doesn't page text to swap, as the writes are just too expensive. With a good elevator algorithm the cost of seeks is minimal. I know, even windows uses that method. But the real reason was that swap space was expensive, when the method was invented; that is no longer the case. There is a noticeable difference in speed from reading code from each respective file than compared to read from contiguous raw swap space. It can be worse if it first have to read the inode, then the code, which I think it might do. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8qr6tTMYHG2NR9URAqloAJ4+TDS7DztpWeNVOCc1cLyjPXj8UwCghQ1T BIuRTiFAj4RcESHHEUFOiiE= =zZva -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 17:31 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote: However I just wanted to say, that openoffice.org also offers downloads of the latest OOo versions ;) (also rpms) Which will not have all Novell modifications. Some of them haven't gone upstream yet. Of course you're right. ;) Btw. is there a list of modifications Novell did? Dunno. A important one should be the compatibility thing with that xml format of M$ - I don't write the exact name because I forgot; oxml? .xdoc?. But they (Novell) do a lot of contributions, not only that one, I understand. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8qv3tTMYHG2NR9URAvuYAJ9vaS4JICOIujgKWlNcKIvbT3BTRACbBCCu +QKY02PGh8c1kDnHsvSz5pM= =LzvJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On 20/09/2007, James Knott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I guess the next question is where is it hiding?. ;-) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/UNSTABLE/openSUSE_10.2/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [opensuse] Nothing Shown in Yast IDE DMA Setup
David C. Rankin wrote:
Volker Poplawski wrote:
Am Donnerstag 20 September 2007 13:18:36 schrieb David C. Rankin:
On my Toshiba P35 laptop, opensuse 10.2, *nothing* is shown in Yast IDE
DMA Setup. Is this normal???
Maybe because you don't have any IDE-drives in laptop but all sata drives?
Well that's just cooky, but you are right! I do have an IDE drive in
there, not SATA. How do I know? Because I just put the new Western
Digital Scorpio WD1200BEVE 120GB 5400 RPM ATA-6 Notebook Hard Drive in
there. But it looks like my friend 'Hal' is using it as a serial storage
device?? From hardware info:
12: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_WD_WXE307576390'
storage.media_check_enabled = false
storage.firmware_version = '01.04A01'
storage.removable.media_available = true
storage.size = 120034123776ull (0x1bf2976000ull)
storage.hotpluggable = false
block.storage_device =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_WD_WXE307576390'
linux.sysfs_path_device = '/sys/block/hda'
storage.bus = 'ide'
block.major = 3 (0x3)
block.is_volume = false
storage.drive_type = 'disk'
info.capabilities = { 'storage', 'block' }
storage.removable.media_size = 120034123776ull (0x1bf2976000ull)
info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_WD_WXE307576390'
volume.ignore = true
storage.no_partitions_hint = false
linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3)
storage.model = 'WDC WD1200BEVE-11UYT0'
storage.serial = 'WD-WXE307576390'
info.product = 'WDC WD1200BEVE-11UYT0'
storage.requires_eject = false
linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/block/hda'
storage.physical_device =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_4349_ide_0_0'
info.category = 'storage'
storage.automount_enabled_hint = true
storage.removable = false
info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_1002_4349_ide_0_0'
block.device = '/dev/hda'
block.minor = 0 (0x0)
storage.vendor = ''
storage.partitioning_scheme = 'mbr'
Go figure???
Actually, hal gathers its information from the /sys and /proc
directories. The /sys is another reflection of kernel data structures.
For /sys, it reflects kernel objects, and in this case the kernel
objects associated with a device. I wouldn't worry about the serial
storage part, as that is the hal udi for its database. The kernel sees
it as a block device /sys/block/hda. While I use hwinfo, I don't depend
on it. I am one of those who go back to the /sys directory for the final
answer.
Bill Anderson
WW7BA
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[opensuse] OpenOffice 2.2 update
I am using OO 2.1 novell edition on SLED SP1 and i want to upgrade to OO 2.2 from opensuse repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/SLED_10/i586/ My question is, out of all the files in that repo, which ones do i need to update to have a working OO 2.2? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thursday 20 September 2007 05:23:18 am JP Rosevear wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: 2.3 is the stable release now, Petr just hasn't had a chance to move it over yet. Having a release put off because 1 person doesn't have time is quite ridiculous. I would totally understand if the reasoning was because it is not considered fully tested / stable with Novell modifications, that would make more sense ,but to just have the release of a long anticipated OOo put off because someone doesn't have time just blows my mind.. -- How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.2 update
On Thursday 20 September 2007 10:38:35 am Chris Arnold wrote: I am using OO 2.1 novell edition on SLED SP1 and i want to upgrade to OO 2.2 from opensuse repo http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/SLED_10/i5 86/ My question is, out of all the files in that repo, which ones do i need to update to have a working OO 2.2? You can add that to your Software Repos.. Once this is done then you can update all OOo software in YaST. -- How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] kernel panic at openSuSE 10.3 (after kernel update)
Artyom Loenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi, all. yesterday i update my openSuSE 10.3 via zypper and now i have Kernel Panic at boot with Code: bad eip value message. early i sew this bug, but it was associated with usb device and network card, but now i have this problem with notebook. so, i have 2.6.22.5-10 and now problem with it, and now i have 2.6.22.5-21 and dead system. Please update again - the -21 kernel was rather broken. RC1 has -23 AFAIR and a revert of broken patch :-( unfortunately, i didn't see a last kernel at /boot/ directory and i don't know hot to return old kernel. Several options: * Do an upgrade to RC1 from the media * Use the rescue system and manually install a kernel Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform/openSUSE, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpVqWkblwF1B.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse] Question about Encryption
I have a laptop (HP Compaq nw9440) running openSUSE 10.2. My company has recently mandated that all mobile devices be encrypted. Their choice for Windows encryption software is Pointsec. http://www.checkpoint.com/products/datasecurity/pc/index.html Pointsec does have a Linux version but it does not yet run on openSUSE 10.2. However, I can encrypt the filesytem natively using SUSE methods. What I need to know is what level of encryption is this? Do any of you know what that is? I've googled and cannot find anything. I will want to follow up with my internal contact to let them know the level of encryption provided by openSUSE. This will then allow them to give me the permission to use openSUSE encrypton or if I have to do something else. If it isn't sufficient, I suppose I could migrate to SLED, but I would hope to not lose some of the functionality I know openSUSE holds that SLED doesn't. (I like being bleeding edge.) -- kai ponte www.perfectreign.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] how do i unsubscribe
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Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Am Donnerstag, 20. September 2007 19:20:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.: A important one should be the compatibility thing with that xml format of M$ - I don't write the exact name because I forgot; oxml? .xdoc?. But they (Novell) do a lot of contributions, not only that one, I understand. You mean OOXML, extension .[doc,ppt,xls,...]x (i.e. .docx). Go visit www.noooxml.org for some good reasons against it ;) Greetings Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On 20/09/2007, Ben Kevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would totally understand if the reasoning was because it is not considered fully tested / stable with Novell modifications, that would make more sense ,but to just have the release of a long anticipated OOo put off because someone doesn't have time just blows my mind.. OOo has been released, there are even openSUSE packages, all that hasn't happened yet is having it moved from the build service repository containing development builds to the one containing stable builds. OOo 2.3 will also be shipped with the upcoming openSUSE 10.3. _ Benjamin Weber -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On 09/20/2007 08:42 PM, Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2007 05:23:18 am JP Rosevear wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: 2.3 is the stable release now, Petr just hasn't had a chance to move it over yet. Having a release put off because 1 person doesn't have time is quite ridiculous. I don't want to be rude, but...: be glad that at least somebody does it. If it sounds ridiculous to you, join the OOo group and do it yourselves. André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Question about Encryption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 11:58 -0700, Kai Ponte wrote: However, I can encrypt the filesytem natively using SUSE methods. What I need to know is what level of encryption is this? Do any of you know what that is? I've googled and cannot find anything. I don't know much about that, but I can point you to something. In Linux encrypted filesystems are created via a command like this: losetup -T -e twofish256 /dev/loop2 big_file_to_be_mounted_as_loop You can of course use a partition instead. The important thing is the -e switch, and in the man page you can find some info, but not a howto. You can provide an encryption key in a usb memory device and a password you have to type: a method that gives double protections. There are, I think, two howtos than explain some of these things; even if not complete, you should read them. However, if your company requires some certification, you will probably have to go the sles way. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8tF/tTMYHG2NR9URAuCkAJ4rdw8r6fD+p9K5ng6tFQOVNBcUVgCeLWsL DxJsekmxtfWOqwHaUgeeihE= =jiyS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
Le September 20, 2007 03:51:28 pm drek, vous avez écrit : On 09/20/2007 08:42 PM, Ben Kevan wrote: On Thursday 20 September 2007 05:23:18 am JP Rosevear wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 13:57 +0200, Hans van der Merwe wrote: On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 12:38 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: 2.3 is the stable release now, Petr just hasn't had a chance to move it over yet. Having a release put off because 1 person doesn't have time is quite ridiculous. I don't want to be rude, but...: be glad that at least somebody does it. If it sounds ridiculous to you, join the OOo group and do it yourselves. André And, it doesn't work. May be this is why it still unstable ;-( André. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 21:28 +0200, Michael Skiba wrote: Am Donnerstag, 20. September 2007 19:20:53 schrieb Carlos E. R.: A important one should be the compatibility thing with that xml format of M$ - I don't write the exact name because I forgot; oxml? .xdoc?. But they (Novell) do a lot of contributions, not only that one, I understand. You mean OOXML, extension .[doc,ppt,xls,...]x (i.e. .docx). That one. Go visit www.noooxml.org for some good reasons against it ;) I'm against it as an ISO standard. However, I can't oposse Microsoft using it on their own software, the same as we can't force them to use the oasis format. I'm sure I will receive, sooner or later, files in that format, wan't it or not; therefore, I'd rather be able to read/write them easily. I'd probably prefer that format than the plain old .doc. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8tP2tTMYHG2NR9URAhKWAJ9d8SArSKAHph6y6XYSbKXOZjQrtgCfReLn gcdpgRnIAS7lrudaKDJdNQ0= =Mlul -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
On Thursday 20 September 2007 12:34:16 pm Benji Weber wrote: On 20/09/2007, Ben Kevan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would totally understand if the reasoning was because it is not considered fully tested / stable with Novell modifications, that would make more sense ,but to just have the release of a long anticipated OOo put off because someone doesn't have time just blows my mind.. OOo has been released, there are even openSUSE packages, all that hasn't happened yet is having it moved from the build service repository containing development builds to the one containing stable builds. OOo 2.3 will also be shipped with the upcoming openSUSE 10.3. _ Benjamin Weber Thanks I understand that, but it is crazy that several days after the release openSUSE users don't have it in their Stable repository because one person doesn't have time to do so. -- How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars. So come on; hit me -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice 2.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2007-09-20 at 12:53 -0700, Ben Kevan wrote: I understand that, but it is crazy that several days after the release openSUSE users don't have it in their Stable repository because one person doesn't have time to do so. And I don't understand why a version that has been put in the unstable repo can be upgraded to stable before a month has passed. :-P - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFG8tUntTMYHG2NR9URAkt1AJ9pHTPwgoiryRUEJSUNXbk8+SpuYQCeMgCX L/270A8P+Rz5ztGds6UpU8o= =QaI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
